Gill Alexander and Kelley Bydlon give their full thoughts on Dan Hurley deciding to not become the Lakers' next head coach. Plus, Drew Dinsick joined A Numbers Game to preview Game 3 of the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want to start with something that we ended up
(00:02):
in our text exchange with wish Nev Feesick, will Hill,
and Chris Filiki yesterday, and I wanted to touch on
it because I mentioned it yesterday in passing and didn't
really seize on it, and I could, you know, I
sensed that I was probably unclear about this kind of thing.
So Dan Hurley, we were on the air yesterday and
we didn't know if he was going to take the
Lakers job or not. Twenty four hours ago and I
(00:23):
was reading a tweet I had mentioned it and someone said, well,
you know, follow the money before you. They said he
was minus four hundred in a betting market to go
to become the lakers next head coach, and I, in
reacting to the tweet, I was just sort of like, oh, okay,
and I.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Just kept going.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And I didn't mean that to sound flippant about them
having said it. What I intended to convey is when
it comes to these kinds of markets, and this is
just sort of, you know, a betting thing for people
again who are new to this, when it's when it's
a minus four hundred in a market, say at bed
online or Bovada right, these are markets that are capped
(01:00):
in terms of what people are betting. It could just
be twenty five bucks for all we know. Maybe it's
even less, and so it doesn't take anything. Right if
WOJ has a report, three people are going to bet
it and all of a sudden, it's minus four hundred.
So I guess what I'm saying is it's a just
a sort of psa about these kinds of particular markets,
(01:22):
specifically this player to the next team or this coach
to the next team, and so as we found out
there was nothing to it, or he turned it down,
whatever story you believe. Dan Hurley says no to the
reported seven year deal for eighty million. Was that the
proposed deal that we're getting reported. There are some people
(01:42):
who believe that this was seven six year set by
the way, six years seventy in the scheme of coaching
life at the top of your profession. While it sounds
like a tremendous huge amount of money to mere mortals
like you and me, I'm not sure that that would
have been enough to sway Dan Hurley from a two
(02:03):
time college you know, repeat college championship coach to coach
the Lakers. Like that that should have been way higher
than that, shouldn't it. I think everybody was expecting a
higher offer.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I mean, I mean it would have put him in line,
I think, to be the fifth highest paid NBA coach.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I'm trying to look up right now. What do you
what do you believe about this? Though?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The other opinion on this is this was never anything
that Sham's got the scoop on on JJ Reddick being
a candidate. Wog was upset about it, and then Wog
goes and just sort of has connections like, oh the Lakers,
Dan Early, this is a thing. Oh now, it's not
(02:42):
a thing. Who knows what's real?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think it was definitely a thing. I think it
was definitely a thing. Was it maybe overblown?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's what I mean? How much the Lakers wanted him?
That's what I mean. That's definitely possible. Yeah, was it? Also?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I also don't know that I will believe for a
second the I mean, the reporting here has been has
It's been kind of sketchy timeline throughout the.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Most full core press and then it went away, right
it is quiet.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So the other part that I don't believe Gil is Okay,
this is uh like I've seen specific stuff talking about
oh no, this was not dead Hurley trading this as.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
A negotiating tactic.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But like he's instantly going to double his salary from
last year to what he's rolling into with next year
with likely with you gone.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So like what what?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But what I was saying yesterday was also again for
ninety eight percent of college coaches, this is now a
different profession than it was when you took the job.
You are now recruiting your own team. You're recruiting other
teams players. That wasn't the job when you took it.
But if you're Dan Hurley, you're on the mountaintop and
you have a you're you're already you're a peat champion.
You're going for the all you know, all too rare
(03:43):
three peat, it's a different sort of story. You're the
king of stores Connecticut. Yeah, so I don't know, and
maybe he's an East Coast guy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Who knows and what And by all accounts killed it
this all season as far as bringing guys in, keeping
guys and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So the team's listened up again? Is the Lakers that
great of a job.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
If Lakers offer right? And then we hear about this
Kentucky offer coming in, and it's like, Okay, all it
is is this guy just he did a great job negotiating.
It is gonna get more money, does maybe stay exactly
where he wanted to be at anyway?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Just that PSA about a betting market, like a bet
online of Bovada. When a number of moves like that,
it is not always and often not an indicator of
actual reality of what's going to happen, because it doesn't
take much to move that stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Now, the Reddick side of the stuff, stuff's interest, like,
I don't know where this leaves the Lakers like that,
where are the Lakers at today?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I have no idea, no idea. It's it's Barrego, it's Reddick.
It's probably Barrego.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
In the end, I'm gonna kind of laugh. I'm sorry,
but it's funny if it's Barrego. And that is nothing
against Barrego. But that is when when Hurley and Reddick
have been floated around like this for the past three
weeks now or whatever, and it's gonna end up being him,
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's it's also wide.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'll get involved in those markets even if we could
here in Nevada, they're just they're squirrely.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You don't know, you don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think though that you're talking about the limits.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's like, I mean, well, not only the limits, but
just I don't know what happening.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Sure, sure, I also like biggest piece of advice because
of what you're talking about. Even if you are limited,
I wouldn't be caring too much about it because you
shouldn't be betting that that much on it.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's true now courtesy of the Progressive guest Line, the
host of not one but two podcasts, The Deep Dive
with Andy Mollatorn, of course, NBC Sports Bet the Edge
with Jake Croucher, who was throwing out pictures Drake Caroucher.
Where was it was he at the Celtics game.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, he went down Sunday. He was sitting baseline, great
seats at the garden there to see the Celtics home.
Hopefully two more left, two wins left over.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yet it's not over yet. You got to be feeling
good though, right, Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, absolutely? This was massive. Yeah. I mean, if something
weird was going to happen in the series, it was
going to be Dallas sticking their foot in the door
early and getting those two wins, particularly a game too,
because I thought the Celtics played pretty poorly all of
a sudden, all told, well, at least a shot really poorly.
They were getting incredibly good offensive looks on and felt
like every single possession, but really just kind of struggled
(06:00):
until the second half to put the ball through the
hoop and you know, getting that one home. Those are
the kind of games the Celtics lose, have lost in
frustrating fashion throughout this entire run of this core and
seeing that one to the finish line was pretty exciting.
Now now they go on the road and they basically
have at least by my number two coin flips when
(06:22):
one of these coin flips, and then take care of
business in game five and we can hang better number eighteen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I'll repeat what I asked of folks yesterday. The
old adage, of course, is a series doesn't start till
someone loses on their home court, which you just you
know again pointed out if the Celtics can take one here,
maybe the gentleman sweep is coming. But is there anything
I'll ask you to take off your Celtics hat for
a second? Sure is there anything. If you're a Mavericks
(06:48):
backer or a Mavericks fan, what do you hang your
hat on in those first two games? Like, how do
you talk yourself into this?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, I think if you're a if you're a
Mavericks backer or a fan, you're looking at the shooting
statistics and you're saying it can't get worse, it can
only improve because they have been obscenely poor shooting the
ball thirteen.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And thirteen of fifty three from three by the way,
thirteen of fifty three twenty four.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, and you know, the the higher the stakes in
the playoffs, the more of you know, kind of the
role player bump. It comes at home rather than on
the road. And so if you know, if the adjustment
of you know, role players play better, if that comes
through in games three, in game four, you might get
a little bit of a surge. But I mean, you know,
(07:42):
from us from an x's and nose from a strategy standpoint,
watching the games, it feels like such a clear and
obvious mismatch in so many ways, I'm not sure what
the Mavericks do kind of spitballing, you know, what are
some solutions? How do they get the offense going, well,
do they need some PJ Washington that the five to
We need to get Tim Hardaway out on the floor
with these guys to have more shooting. You know, is
(08:05):
Derek Jones junior, you know his his reluctance to fire.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Is that a problem?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You need to get him off the floor. Like all
three of those questions you ask, and like Adamlock's all
of the offense for the Celtics, and so then you
just have turned it into, you know, a full on
shootout and you're just hoping to crossing your fingers that
you make the threes and you win the shootout. But
you know, the moments of games one and two where
(08:32):
it felt like the Mavericks had a bit of an
advantage was when the game really slowed down to a slog.
The Celtics weren't really getting into their offensive sets. They
weren't getting good looks, they weren't getting into their offensive
movements early enough in the shot clock to make them
make them matter. And you know, I think the Mavericks
could not take advantage of that by turning around those
(08:53):
those solid defensive possessions and creating offense. So yeah, I
think that all of the answers to the tough questions
in the series for the Mavericks are bad. And you know,
the fact that you know, their most important offensive weapon
in Luca is their biggest defensive liability is really kind
of fundamentally, you know, the key crux of the problem here.
(09:17):
The Mavericks have gotten here in a lot of ways
by exploiting the corner three. The Celtics are the best
team in the NBA by margin at taking away the
corner three. They allow one per game, which is ironically
what they have given up to to this point in
the series. And so the Mavericks not getting those free
free opportunities or those you know, plus ev shots from
(09:38):
the corner and forcing most of the open looks for
the Mavericks to be above the break has been a huge, huge,
kind of in my opinion, tactical advantage for the Celtics
in this one. And you know, without the shooters to
be able to punish them above the break, I'm not
sure what you do if you're the Mavericks and you
know that there's been a lot of interesting kind of
(09:58):
strategy on the magic the Mavericks part, you know, putting
two on Tatum for a lot of their defensive sets.
And you know, Tatum has obviously not really shown up
in the box score from a shooting or a points standpoint,
but he's been absolutely diabolical from a you know, an assist,
a driving assist, driving dish role. And if the Mavericks
(10:20):
pivot away from having two on Tatum, if that unlocks
him a little bit offensively, it wouldn't shock me. So, yeah,
you're you're kind of left with nothing but bad options here.
If your magic if you're the Mavericks coaching staff, and
I think you're just crossing your fingers that the switch
to the venue helps with your shooting and you get
some of that role player home cooking where those guys
(10:44):
just play better, because you need the Celtics to take
a step backwards and your team to take a step
forward to close the gap.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
In my opinion, five and thirty one.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Five and thirty one is the all time record for
teams trying to overcome a two toning deficit in the
history of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Five and thirty one.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Again the last team to do so, the twenty twenty
one Bucks with Giannis against Phoenix. The Lebron Cavaliers, who
can forget that against Golden State, where Golden State went
scoreless in the last four forty of Game seven. Lebron
with the iconic block of Andrea Goadalas shot the heat
in two thousand and six, Bill Waltons Blazers in nineteen
seventy seven, and the Celtics in nineteen sixty nine. In
each one of those five cases, the team that was
(11:26):
down two to nothing lost the first two on the road.
So this is you know, this would if the Mavericks
are able to do it. This is still the formula
if you will to do so. Obviously you don't want
to be part of this formula, but it's it's how
the other five got there as well. And let me
just ask this in the last minute. We'll talk other
sports here on the other side, but just from a
(11:46):
non betting from a historical standpoint, the Celtics, now when
you put regular season in postseason record together, are seventy
eight and twenty. And I know they had the royal
flush of injuries that they played here in the playoffs,
but if they hadn't, let's say it's a gentleman sweep.
If they end up eighty and twenty one, do you
rank this like PERI your numbers. Do you rank this
as one of the great teams of all time or
(12:08):
is it just a team that was really good that
just had a lot of good fortune as well.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, on paper, they are a super team. I
think we've even made this commentary on the show. But
from the start of the season, you put the pieces
together and the ratings together, there's no minuses. Everybody's a
plus on both sides of the floor, except for Al
Horford is a small minus offensively. Everyone else is a
(12:34):
plus on both sides of the floor.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Who batters and that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
And you know it's just from a roster building standpoint,
it's the perfect roster for this day and age in
the NBA. And the fact that they weren't tested I
think just afforded us opportunities to get prices on the
finals that were pretty obscene.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think in hindsight, you don't think all those Warriors
team crush them. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I do Pug in my head the way I remember it,
But you know, we'll never know.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know, but I don't know that they'll be
all time great, But they are super team on paper.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Okay,
I want to start with something that we ended up
(00:02):
in our text exchange with wish Nev Feesick, will Hill,
and Chris Filiki yesterday, and I wanted to touch on
it because I mentioned it yesterday in passing and didn't
really seize on it, and I could, you know, I
sensed that I was probably unclear about this kind of thing.
So Dan Hurley, we were on the air yesterday and
we didn't know if he was going to take the
Lakers job or not. Twenty four hours ago and I
(00:23):
was reading a tweet I had mentioned it and someone said, well,
you know, follow the money before you. They said he
was minus four hundred in a betting market to go
to become the lakers next head coach, and I, in
reacting to the tweet, I was just sort of like, oh, okay,
and I.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Just kept going.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And I didn't mean that to sound flippant about them
having said it. What I intended to convey is when
it comes to these kinds of markets, and this is
just sort of, you know, a betting thing for people
again who are new to this, when it's when it's
a minus four hundred in a market, say at bed
online or Bovada right, these are markets that are capped
(01:00):
in terms of what people are betting. It could just
be twenty five bucks for all we know. Maybe it's
even less, and so it doesn't take anything. Right if
WOJ has a report, three people are going to bet
it and all of a sudden, it's minus four hundred.
So I guess what I'm saying is it's a just
a sort of psa about these kinds of particular markets,
(01:22):
specifically this player to the next team or this coach
to the next team, and so as we found out
there was nothing to it, or he turned it down,
whatever story you believe. Dan Hurley says no to the
reported seven year deal for eighty million. Was that the
proposed deal that we're getting reported. There are some people
(01:42):
who believe that this was seven six year set by
the way, six years seventy in the scheme of coaching
life at the top of your profession. While it sounds
like a tremendous huge amount of money to mere mortals
like you and me, I'm not sure that that would
have been enough to sway Dan Hurley from a two
(02:03):
time college you know, repeat college championship coach to coach
the Lakers. Like that that should have been way higher
than that, shouldn't it. I think everybody was expecting a
higher offer.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I mean, I mean it would have put him in line,
I think, to be the fifth highest paid NBA coach.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I'm trying to look up right now. What do you
what do you believe about this? Though?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The other opinion on this is this was never anything
that Sham's got the scoop on on JJ Reddick being
a candidate. Wog was upset about it, and then Wog
goes and just sort of has connections like, oh the Lakers,
Dan Early, this is a thing. Oh now, it's not
(02:42):
a thing. Who knows what's real?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think it was definitely a thing. I think it
was definitely a thing. Was it maybe overblown?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's what I mean? How much the Lakers wanted him?
That's what I mean. That's definitely possible. Yeah, was it? Also?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I also don't know that I will believe for a
second the I mean, the reporting here has been has
It's been kind of sketchy timeline throughout the.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Most full core press and then it went away, right
it is quiet.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So the other part that I don't believe Gil is Okay,
this is uh like I've seen specific stuff talking about
oh no, this was not dead Hurley trading this as.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
A negotiating tactic.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But like he's instantly going to double his salary from
last year to what he's rolling into with next year
with likely with you gone.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So like what what?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But what I was saying yesterday was also again for
ninety eight percent of college coaches, this is now a
different profession than it was when you took the job.
You are now recruiting your own team. You're recruiting other
teams players. That wasn't the job when you took it.
But if you're Dan Hurley, you're on the mountaintop and
you have a you're you're already you're a peat champion.
You're going for the all you know, all too rare
(03:43):
three peat, it's a different sort of story. You're the
king of stores Connecticut. Yeah, so I don't know, and
maybe he's an East Coast guy.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Who knows and what And by all accounts killed it
this all season as far as bringing guys in, keeping
guys and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So the team's listened up again? Is the Lakers that
great of a job.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
If Lakers offer right? And then we hear about this
Kentucky offer coming in, and it's like, Okay, all it
is is this guy just he did a great job negotiating.
It is gonna get more money, does maybe stay exactly
where he wanted to be at anyway?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Just that PSA about a betting market, like a bet
online of Bovada. When a number of moves like that,
it is not always and often not an indicator of
actual reality of what's going to happen, because it doesn't
take much to move that stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Now, the Reddick side of the stuff, stuff's interest, like,
I don't know where this leaves the Lakers like that,
where are the Lakers at today?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I have no idea, no idea. It's it's Barrego, it's Reddick.
It's probably Barrego.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
In the end, I'm gonna kind of laugh. I'm sorry,
but it's funny if it's Barrego. And that is nothing
against Barrego. But that is when when Hurley and Reddick
have been floated around like this for the past three
weeks now or whatever, and it's gonna end up being him,
all right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's it's also wide.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'll get involved in those markets even if we could
here in Nevada, they're just they're squirrely.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You don't know, you don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think though that you're talking about the limits.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's like, I mean, well, not only the limits, but
just I don't know what happening.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Sure, sure, I also like biggest piece of advice because
of what you're talking about. Even if you are limited,
I wouldn't be caring too much about it because you
shouldn't be betting that that much on it.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's true now courtesy of the Progressive guest Line, the
host of not one but two podcasts, The Deep Dive
with Andy Mollatorn, of course, NBC Sports Bet the Edge
with Jake Croucher, who was throwing out pictures Drake Caroucher.
Where was it was he at the Celtics game.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, he went down Sunday. He was sitting baseline, great
seats at the garden there to see the Celtics home.
Hopefully two more left, two wins left over.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yet it's not over yet. You got to be feeling
good though, right, Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, absolutely? This was massive. Yeah. I mean, if something
weird was going to happen in the series, it was
going to be Dallas sticking their foot in the door
early and getting those two wins, particularly a game too,
because I thought the Celtics played pretty poorly all of
a sudden, all told, well, at least a shot really poorly.
They were getting incredibly good offensive looks on and felt
like every single possession, but really just kind of struggled
(06:00):
until the second half to put the ball through the
hoop and you know, getting that one home. Those are
the kind of games the Celtics lose, have lost in
frustrating fashion throughout this entire run of this core and
seeing that one to the finish line was pretty exciting.
Now now they go on the road and they basically
have at least by my number two coin flips when
(06:22):
one of these coin flips, and then take care of
business in game five and we can hang better number eighteen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I'll repeat what I asked of folks yesterday. The
old adage, of course, is a series doesn't start till
someone loses on their home court, which you just you
know again pointed out if the Celtics can take one here,
maybe the gentleman sweep is coming. But is there anything
I'll ask you to take off your Celtics hat for
a second? Sure is there anything. If you're a Mavericks
(06:48):
backer or a Mavericks fan, what do you hang your
hat on in those first two games? Like, how do
you talk yourself into this?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, I think if you're a if you're a
Mavericks backer or a fan, you're looking at the shooting
statistics and you're saying it can't get worse, it can
only improve because they have been obscenely poor shooting the
ball thirteen.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And thirteen of fifty three from three by the way,
thirteen of fifty three twenty four.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, and you know, the the higher the stakes in
the playoffs, the more of you know, kind of the
role player bump. It comes at home rather than on
the road. And so if you know, if the adjustment
of you know, role players play better, if that comes
through in games three, in game four, you might get
a little bit of a surge. But I mean, you know,
(07:42):
from us from an x's and nose from a strategy standpoint,
watching the games, it feels like such a clear and
obvious mismatch in so many ways, I'm not sure what
the Mavericks do kind of spitballing, you know, what are
some solutions? How do they get the offense going, well,
do they need some PJ Washington that the five to
We need to get Tim Hardaway out on the floor
with these guys to have more shooting. You know, is
(08:05):
Derek Jones junior, you know his his reluctance to fire.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Is that a problem?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You need to get him off the floor. Like all
three of those questions you ask, and like Adamlock's all
of the offense for the Celtics, and so then you
just have turned it into, you know, a full on
shootout and you're just hoping to crossing your fingers that
you make the threes and you win the shootout. But
you know, the moments of games one and two where
(08:32):
it felt like the Mavericks had a bit of an
advantage was when the game really slowed down to a slog.
The Celtics weren't really getting into their offensive sets. They
weren't getting good looks, they weren't getting into their offensive
movements early enough in the shot clock to make them
make them matter. And you know, I think the Mavericks
could not take advantage of that by turning around those
(08:53):
those solid defensive possessions and creating offense. So yeah, I
think that all of the answers to the tough questions
in the series for the Mavericks are bad. And you know,
the fact that you know, their most important offensive weapon
in Luca is their biggest defensive liability is really kind
of fundamentally, you know, the key crux of the problem here.
(09:17):
The Mavericks have gotten here in a lot of ways
by exploiting the corner three. The Celtics are the best
team in the NBA by margin at taking away the
corner three. They allow one per game, which is ironically
what they have given up to to this point in
the series. And so the Mavericks not getting those free
free opportunities or those you know, plus ev shots from
(09:38):
the corner and forcing most of the open looks for
the Mavericks to be above the break has been a huge, huge,
kind of in my opinion, tactical advantage for the Celtics
in this one. And you know, without the shooters to
be able to punish them above the break, I'm not
sure what you do if you're the Mavericks and you
know that there's been a lot of interesting kind of
(09:58):
strategy on the magic the Mavericks part, you know, putting
two on Tatum for a lot of their defensive sets.
And you know, Tatum has obviously not really shown up
in the box score from a shooting or a points standpoint,
but he's been absolutely diabolical from a you know, an assist,
a driving assist, driving dish role. And if the Mavericks
(10:20):
pivot away from having two on Tatum, if that unlocks
him a little bit offensively, it wouldn't shock me. So, yeah,
you're you're kind of left with nothing but bad options here.
If your magic if you're the Mavericks coaching staff, and
I think you're just crossing your fingers that the switch
to the venue helps with your shooting and you get
some of that role player home cooking where those guys
(10:44):
just play better, because you need the Celtics to take
a step backwards and your team to take a step
forward to close the gap.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
In my opinion, five and thirty one.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Five and thirty one is the all time record for
teams trying to overcome a two toning deficit in the
history of the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Five and thirty one.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Again the last team to do so, the twenty twenty
one Bucks with Giannis against Phoenix. The Lebron Cavaliers, who
can forget that against Golden State, where Golden State went
scoreless in the last four forty of Game seven. Lebron
with the iconic block of Andrea Goadalas shot the heat
in two thousand and six, Bill Waltons Blazers in nineteen
seventy seven, and the Celtics in nineteen sixty nine. In
each one of those five cases, the team that was
(11:26):
down two to nothing lost the first two on the road.
So this is you know, this would if the Mavericks
are able to do it. This is still the formula
if you will to do so. Obviously you don't want
to be part of this formula, but it's it's how
the other five got there as well. And let me
just ask this in the last minute. We'll talk other
sports here on the other side, but just from a
(11:46):
non betting from a historical standpoint, the Celtics, now when
you put regular season in postseason record together, are seventy
eight and twenty. And I know they had the royal
flush of injuries that they played here in the playoffs,
but if they hadn't, let's say it's a gentleman sweep.
If they end up eighty and twenty one, do you
rank this like PERI your numbers. Do you rank this
as one of the great teams of all time or
(12:08):
is it just a team that was really good that
just had a lot of good fortune as well.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, on paper, they are a super team. I
think we've even made this commentary on the show. But
from the start of the season, you put the pieces
together and the ratings together, there's no minuses. Everybody's a
plus on both sides of the floor, except for Al
Horford is a small minus offensively. Everyone else is a
(12:34):
plus on both sides of the floor.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Who batters and that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
And you know it's just from a roster building standpoint,
it's the perfect roster for this day and age in
the NBA. And the fact that they weren't tested I
think just afforded us opportunities to get prices on the
finals that were pretty obscene.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think in hindsight, you don't think all those Warriors
team crush them. I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I do Pug in my head the way I remember it,
But you know, we'll never know.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know, but I don't know that they'll be
all time great, But they are super team on paper.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Okay,
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