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August 12, 2024 28 mins

We do not want to give anything away on this episode. If you are not a believer in mediums, this episode could leave you open to changing your mind. Eric sits with Jonathan Mark in part 2 of their interview and receives a reading that leaves Eric speechless. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is He Said a Yadiho with Eric Winter and
Rosalind Fantaz.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of He
Said Aado. We are continuing our conversation this week with
Jonathan Mark. Last week we talked about his medium work
in law enforcement, and today we're going to talk to
him about doing my reading.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Henna.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
He's gonna actually dive in and give me a reading,
and let's see who shows up. Welcome back, Jonathan Mark. Okay, Jonathan,
So you just blew my mind on all the stuff
you've done working with law enforcement. Again, I could have
talked about that for hours. Producers wanted you to, I
guess talk with me a little bit about something on

(00:44):
my end. I don't even know how we start with
something like that. I don't know where to begin. Like
I said, I've had this, you know, I've gone through
this a couple of times with people. I'll just give
you free rain go. You tell me a little more
detail and I come on your podcast. But I guess
tell me so, I'll I'll explain to.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You very quickly how I do it, so you're not like,
what the heck is this kid doing? But basically, I
always look off to the side when I do stuff,
and the reason is to blank.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
My mind out when I do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
But like a pretty big key factors like I don't
like going off with people's reactions to anything. So there
will be times I'll take a drink of like my Gatorade,
and I'll obviously talk to you and stuff like I'm
not gonna just like drink and look away. But but
but basically like I'll be, you know, pulling in friends, family,
people that passed away, and so I'll be saying like

(01:32):
their names, like you know things about them, and you know,
if like if it gets too intimate, like let me know,
because I've done this before with people and their shows
and it's gotten way too intimate and they didn't even
like want it to be on there and they didn't
air it. So I just want, like, stop me if
it gets that way in any way.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
And basically what I typically.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Do with like readings and law enforcement stuff is I
always flip I do a three sixty views just to
show them Like when I stare off, I'm literally, like
I've said to you before, like earlier on is staring
at a wall.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
So I'll do that quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Don't judge me about the pillows that my mom's I'm
at her house. So that's basically what I look at,
you know, but I do that because people are always like,
what the heck are you looking at? Trying to eliminate
that for people and.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
No harm, no foul, if nothing happens exciting, it's okay.
I mean I've I've done the one time I did
this and I said this on on earlier in the introduction,
I had nobody showed up, like the medium came is like,
now many people want to talk to you. There's like
I was shocked and recently finally came in.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, don't tell me about who I won't.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Want to say something.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And then but they did predict some things down the
road that ended up playing out cool, which is interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yeah, So like I'll go on.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
If you you know, have a question or whatever, just
tell me to shut up.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
I will shut up because no good from New York.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I feel like I could talk forever, so like, just
tell me to shut up, but I will start. I
don't stay like that because I would be also really
weird too. Uh so you spoke to me him and
they said no one came through.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Okay, Yeah, that was once.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I mean, you definitely have like a you definitely have someone,
you have someone with like a W name that keeps
popping in pretty hard. I mean, so typically how energy
lines up for me, I go by family tree and stuff.
When someone's over someone's shoulder, typically it's a parental type

(03:29):
of energy. So I'm assuming, yeah, you have a W name.
I don't know William Wayne Walter. You have a W name.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Am I supposed to give you anything back?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, I'll go and then you can find I just
wanted to be authentic for you, So I don't want
you to tell me too much.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Oh I can't.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean this, this looks like your father, if I'm
being honest with you, the way that he's kind of
coming through or like a father figure.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
But when someone keeps.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
So when I bring up a date, I don't bring
up like an exact date, So don't like I'm not
that good, So don't uh think that. But you know,
but it's typically an important date, whether it's someone's birthday
or like anniversary of something. When they show me, it's
like February March time, like at the beginning, like like

(04:22):
it's like the winter into spring. I guess it's typically
a significance of a birthday or anniversary of sorts.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Also too, I gotta ask you this, because.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
This person's doing this, it's not weird or anything.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Huh, But my grandfather used to have fake teeth, and
he used to have like this fake teeth, and he
looked a little fake, maybe because he was older back
in the day. But now obviously teeth can look not fake.
I guess because this, I'm assuming it's.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Your father or father figure.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Like I said, he keeps taking teeth and he keeps
like chomping and joking around about it, saying like his
teeth were so big and like white and like perfect
as he got older, like they looked like beautiful teeth,
like teeth and not like my small chick lit teeth.
And like also too, I mean, this is also quite impressive.

(05:18):
It looks like he passed away when he was a
little bit older. But like also too, he keeps playing
with his hair, talking about like hair and how important
because he keeps smiling, saying he was a good looking
guy when he was younger, with a full head of hair.
But then he keeps reverting back to like I mean,
this is why I'm saying it's impressive. It's because it
seems like he kept a majority of his hair for

(05:39):
a pretty long time, a lot longer than other men do,
if I'm being honest. This is also funny through my
grandfather used to have these big freaking glasses. Man. I mean,
like I used to tell my you know, like the
Jeffrey Dahmer. I know, it's like really choice to say,
but the Jeffrey Dahmer glasses. Yeah, And I just watched that, so, like,

(06:00):
I know, I'm late to the party and stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
But because he keeps like, he keeps showing to me that.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Oh wow, he was also really smart too. This is interesting.
He's actually really it's really smart.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Because he keeps talking to me the importance of like,
do you know people that have like the old school
traditional values of like my grandfather used to tell me this.
It's like go to school, get a job and all
that stuff, like very traditional. Because what he's smiling about is,
I guess you were on a traditional path, and you
obviously took.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
On the entertainment path.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
But he's saying you were on a very traditional path
because he's clapping for you, and then he's smiling and
saying because he keeps talking and this is why I'm
talking about his looks, because he keeps saying, like you
were smart and like very good looking, and it just
melted together, it's what he's saying, because he's saying, always
use your brain, like do things once and you don't
have to do things twice. But he's really talking to

(06:59):
me about Also.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
His style is also like pretty impeccable too. I wanted
to ask you.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I know this is gonna be like a little creepy
and weird, but that's not creeping weird.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I don't like to keep saying that, but.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's kind of like his style of sorts, like was
he a very well dressed man when he was when
you were growing up with him? Because he keeps smiling
and he's making a joke saying he was very thin
and then he kind of like let himself go a
little bit, is what he's saying, but not in a
bad way. Just you age and things happen, you know,
but like with him in particular, what he's talking to

(07:36):
me about is, oh, well, this has to be your father,
because he's talking about how you take care of your
siblings and stuff. Keeps talking about how you've become like this,
I'm saying matriarch, not in like, you know, any type
of way. But he's saying you've become like this person.
But he's really talking about how proud he is of

(07:56):
you being a father as well too, because he keeps
leaning into he keeps saying that he felt like he
was such a huge part of your childhood and you're
growing up in anything you were doing, because he keeps
clapping his hand saying like he was. I'm not saying
he was a cheerleader, That's not what I'm saying, but
someone who was very supportive of anything that you were
to do. And what he's saying is you're doing the

(08:17):
same exact thing. What he's also smiling about too, is
and he's making a joke, which is why I wanted
to ask you this. He's saying, your hair will will
never be as good as his hair, is what he
keeps talking about, like he keeps playing with his hair
and keep playing with yours, and he keeps smiling and
tapping his head saying like his was always really Well,

(08:41):
who's the g name who's living around you? Who's like
Gina Gwen? Yeah, that's you can tell you, Yeah, Because
he's he wants to say something.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Okay, that's my mom. That's what is my dad?

Speaker 5 (08:55):
That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, Gwen is my mom. You said that name, and
you also said my dad's name, which was Wayne.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Oh, his name is Wayney.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
So I just rattle off names when I see an initial,
so it sparks people. I probably said, like William, that's
my first w name I always go to, honestly, but.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm surprised you said Wayne because that's a that's that's
a not as common.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But no, I've been reading people recently with like Walter
and Wayne.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Where are two very big names.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's really Yeah, that's why I've been I said
those two names because recently those two names came up
in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
With about the passing, I don't want to like say.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Anything that you can.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
He said, there's something you want to say to my
mom too, So I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Curious about Well, it's it's revolving around the past. Okay, Yeah,
that's why I didn't. I don't know if you want
me to say anything. Okay, that's want to be respectful,
that's all.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
So I want to ask you too, because he's.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Saying, was there an age gap with your parents? Yes,
because he keeps making a joke saying that he was
a little bit older than your mom.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
It seems.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Almost ten years.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, he's just making a joke saying that, you know,
there's like a bit of an age gap, so I
didn't want to kind of assume. But he's also smiling though,
really about this is the biggest thing that without getting
to like personal or like anything, because I try to
protect people, like that's just what I do, and I
go on shows if I'm being honest, but for lack

(10:29):
of better words, really seems like your mom was a
big advocate of helping out. Is really what I want to,
like without saying too much, because what he's talking to
me about is circle of life and how like it
became very difficult to do simple tasks is what he's
trying to get into certain things with me, so standing up,
using the restroom, things like that, like you have to

(10:50):
literally take care of someone to do something at times,
and it becomes like a very caretaker type of role
that people step into just in general speaking, and he
keeps saying that when things go very fast and things
start to decline very fast. It's very hard to navigate
to really expect what's going to happen. But then also

(11:12):
see someone who was always taking care of people or
trying their best to take care of people to being
very dependent on others.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Is what he keeps saying to me. Because what he keeps.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Saying, why I'm saying this is because you could be
a man or woman, it doesn't matter, but someone who's
always there for someone and like always being the protector
and stuff he's saying as he got older, as much
as he tried to keep I'm not saying he was
running a five k every day.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
It's not what I'm saying, but.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It seemed because he keeps snapping his fingers at me, saying,
like things seem to have turned pretty quick and fast
with him. It wasn't a like ten year progression slow
of something. Because he keeps going like this, saying like
things seem to have moved at a pretty quick pace.
And what he's also saying to is he never wanted

(11:59):
to be a bob, is what I'm trying to say,
Like he never wanted to be like, you have your
own life going on, you don't have to drop what
you're doing to be a part of something. Because your dad,
from my perspective, how he's coming through, he's an amazing guy,
but he's also very independent. I can see like he
would want to help you or help someone else versus
him being helped, if I'm being honest, because he's saying

(12:21):
it was just a very different take on.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I think life for him.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But he's also saying and he's smiling too, And this
is why I'm saying, he's making a joke because your
dad also too. I don't know, this is how he was.
He's being serious and he's making a joke. So he's
like kind of like lessening because he doesn't want it
to be so heavy the entire time. And he's just
saying and like why he's saying all this too, It's
really just because like he keeps talking to me about

(12:46):
like the age difference and how like he's making a joke.
It's like you know when you date someone with an
age gap, you know the stuff that you're kind of
going into, and he's just laughing at it.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
He's like being completely like joking about it.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Buda, It's interesting, I know want it. There's two g
names my mom being one, but they're divorced that were
very involved when he was passing. When he was going
through his troubles, my mom was still an incredible woman
that supported him and was always there for him. Even

(13:18):
though they divorced when I was seven, they always maintained
a really great relationship and towards the end she would
see him a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, because he's he only has And again that's something
I don't know if you want me to bring up,
Like people get very sensitive about like divorces and stuff
like that. That's just like just something I've learned and
I got yelled at before, so I don't do it
anymore honestly. But yeah, he was saying, your mom has
always been it's like a wife without being a wife,

(13:47):
if that makes sense. It's what he's saying, because he's
saying he and this is why I said to you
in the beginning, How personal do you want me to get?
Because your dad keeps talking about there's a lot of
like we all have d I don't.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Care who you are as a person. He keeps saying he.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Had to fight through some things that were very intense
for him, is what he's saying, Like personally, but that's
why I don't know if you want me to get into.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
That, Yeah you can.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean I'm curious. And I'm also curious because, like
I said, the other person that he was with for
a long time when he passed, who I don't necessarily
have the best relationship with, but she also was a
genium and she would also take care of him while
he was passing. It was in the house taking you know,
taking care of him. That was like his girlfriend a partner.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, like that's what I figured if he was saying,
like it's like the circle of life of like you
take care of someone like he wasn't showing that he
was in a hospital or like a nursing home or something.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, and it was mainly his girlfriend that was taking
care of him primarily when he was passing. Yeah, going
through that process. But my mom was also very active,
seeing him as much as she could and spending time
with him and trying to help wherever she could as well,
even though she had no reason.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know too, they were divorced, and.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, who was like a drinker or someone like that.
A drinker, well, like someone who did things successively, whether
it was drinking or something excessively.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't. I mean my dad.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
My mom didn't drink at all. My dad drank a
little bit. I don't think he'd drank excessively, but he
was more of a drinker than my mom.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
No, it would be someone who did something, whether it's
drinking or something. Doesn't have to be drinking, just something excessive.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I would have to have been my dad when he
was younger.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well, your dad seems like a fun person. I just
kind of assumed.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I want to ask you too, because he's talking about
his passing about I'm using this as an example.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I'm not saying this is what it is.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I'm using this as an example when someone kidney's like
fail and stuff, or when they're going through like something
like that where it's like your body can't take medicine.
It's like recting medicine and rejecting things. Because what he
keeps talking to me about is what he went through
and how intense, like at times, how intense it was.
And I'm not talking about like when people get sick

(16:12):
and stuff. It's intense wholeheartedly. I don't like whatever it
is he keeps saying there were certain times, in certain
aspects where he's saying again, it's not exactly that. It's
like a similarity of like when your body's rejecting something
and your body's going through something, it's a little bit
more intense than when your body's accepting like anything. And
he's saying that he went through what he keeps showing

(16:33):
to me about the intensity of his passing, like the
intensity of like a kind of like what he went
through and to when he passed. And then also like
because what he keeps saying to me is and this
is just like the honest truth of it. It's like
him fighting and trying to, you know, fight to stay here,

(16:53):
but it was so intense, Like he's saying that it
was just like not a it wasn't a smooth ride,
is what he keeps saying.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
But he's saying that this is also something too.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's like certain people don't complain about things, and they
don't share the full extent of what's going on. Like
they may share thirty forty percent of how they're feeling,
but then there's a whole sixty percent that they're really
not talking about. Because he's saying that at times, I'm
sure he would say he was uncomfortable or maybe not
feeling great, but he's saying he wasn't sharing the full

(17:24):
extent of how his body was. Because what he keeps
also showing to me too and like explaining to me,
he's like, imagine if things just start going like failing,
like in your body, like you start like certain organs
and stuff start failing.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
And he's like.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
He's like it all he's making a comparison is like
when the ball goes rolling, it picks up steam, it
doesn't slow down. And that's kind of what he's like
explaining to me that it was like one thing after
another after another, but it was pretty serious stuff. It
wasn't small things. But he is also saying to me too,
and he's pointing at you and smiling at this is
there's some people that.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I mean, I'll use my grandfather.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
My grandfather never took care of his health, like never,
like he would be like throw dirt on it.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I'm all good whatever.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
And I'm not saying your dad was like that. But
what I'm saying is your dad keeps saying that, you know,
people have like nine lives, like they make jokes, but
people have like nine lives and stuff. He keeps saying,
like what he went through was so intense that he
felt like he went through like nine lives because it
was just an intensive passing.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's very possible. Yeah, I can tell you I can
shed a little light on this as well, you know.
He I remember I was doing a movie in Vancouver
and my dad didn't want to bother me, and I
came back home and he basically told me, look, I
have cancer.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I have a type of lung cancer. That's how it started.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And he always had phenomenal hair, like I was like,
my dad was like Tom Selleck, magnum p I mustache hair.
I could never as a kid, I could never mess
with his hair. It was always a big joke between
me and I like if I would try to touch
his hair, be like whoa, whoa. And to this day,
like I have the same thing with my kids. I'm
like very particular about my hair. And I got that

(19:04):
from him, for sure. He did have dentures that later
in his life. Yep, he'd have to take him out
and they were the old, like cheap looking type.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
They didn't look great. Yeah, and he had that for
I don't know a long long time, at least.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I would say probably into his fifties or something like that,
maybe until he passed, which was in his seventies that
I can remember, and when he got this cancer. My
dad was always very health conscious though in the sense
that he tried to find ways to take care of
everything auto mount his own. He did get through, go
through chemo, went through all these treatments to try to
make it go away, but it started taking all these

(19:42):
these mushrooms that were supposed to be good for cancer
as well that he got and it developed well twofold.
He would get these crazy fluid in his lungs, so
the lungs would fill with fluid constantly and have to
be him drained constantly, and this went on for months.
Then with the cancer, the made him lose most of
his hair, his mustache became, you know, a mess, and

(20:04):
then by the time he grew it all back, it
was never the same. It was never the way he
looked his whole life. So I'm sure that's exactly what
he's talking about in that regard. And because of some
of we we believe because some of the self treatment
he was doing, it attacked us out of immune system.
We think this is a speculation. But he developed another
condition called myasthenia gravis and it prevents like the muscles
in his throat or in his the muscles that would allow.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You to breathe on your own.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
It affects those things and to breathe smoothly or to swallow,
so he couldn't really eat and he couldn't breathe very well,
and then he ended up being on a ventilator. We
thought we're going to pull him off the ventilator. He
ended up recovering from it all with the medication, but
he would go through these bouts where it would kick
in and he couldn't swallow properly, couldn't use his throat
muscles properly, couldn't breathe properly. So it was a very

(20:52):
it wasn't a very pleasant ending. And when it did
kick in, it was everything was fast. It was all
people could all happen during COVID.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Oh did it.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
It's a very weird time, yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Because he was just like trying.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
He was just showing to me like and like there's
a difference from my perspective, you know, if I'm working
with law enforcement and stuff with like tragic passing and
like you can say more of like a peaceful side
of like someone who I guess, like you know, lived
a really really long life and natural causes when they're
ninety ninety five takes them. He was saying how fast
things happen and how intense it was. So from my

(21:25):
perspective of him explaining that, I thought that was fairly
like from my perspective, tragic, like like I didn't think
it was like because he was saying it was intensified,
it was a little fast, and it was very uncomfortable
for him, like because what he's also like what I
was saying to you before too, he was also saying
and I'm not saying this is how he was, but

(21:46):
he was like swelling himself up, like he was swelling up,
and he kept saying, it's like imagine being kind of
in shape and or thin to whatever that is to
like and not letting yourself go. But it's like a
very different body, like completely different. Because he's saying from
when he was and this is for I think the
most cases, but for.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Him, and.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
He's just saying that he like he cared about appearance,
and he's saying like when he went through things, his
appearance was not He wasn't like proud of it essentially,
Like because he's saying to me, he was very proud
of his appearance. Pretty much his entire life is what
he's saying. Like he was very and I'm not saying

(22:29):
that's a bad thing, He's just accurate.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It was very confident, good looking guy, and he always
loved the fact that he looked so young for his age,
and he carried himself very well and was sort of
rico suave and kind of yeah, confident, I always say,
as a cross between Vince Vaughan and and and Tom
Selleck like personality wise, and looks kind of this energy charisma. Yeah,
and that's kind of what he was known for always.

(22:54):
So when it when he got sick, it was definitely
a drastic, you know change.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, because he's he's just saying, like from his perspect
if he wants pretty much everyone that was close with
him to remember when he was and yes for most
cases too, but from from him how he was healthy
versus when he got sick, because he does care about
his appearance, like I'm saying, and that was really important
to him, and like that's why I'm assuming when he
was coming through the first things he was talking about

(23:19):
was his appearance about like his teeth, his hair and stuff,
because most people don't bring that up in so like
most people aren't like tapping their teeth and like playing
with their hair and stuff that like they're just coming
through to talk about like like very significant things. But
like because there's a whole other thing too, and it's
interesting you bring up like he didn't bring up mushrooms.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
He brought up like.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
What's the word, like, holistic medicine is what I like
to call it. Yeah, because he's smiling and he's going
like this and like shaking his head like and he's
just smiling about it because he's saying, there's the chemo
like you're talking about. Then he didn't bring up, like
I said, mushrooms. He was bringing up like holistic medicine
like whatever like they do, and he's smiling and he's
saying that, I guess what you're kind of like what

(24:06):
you brought up seems to be like kind of like
what he's showing to me similarly about when you're taking
holistic and their side effects to a holistic thing, which
made his last like six tape months or maybe like
a year like pretty uncomfortable because he's talking about the
holistic side, and he's going like he's making a joke

(24:26):
because he's laughing.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
He's like he's like, should have known, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's like one of those like listen to the doctor,
don't listen to whoever. And he's going like this and smiling.
But he is also someone that is like from my perspective,
like a traditional sense, but he's very like open minded
to things.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
I can seem so like he was willing to do anything.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
He's saying.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
He's saying, try everything once, like you know, it's like
one of those like give everything a shot once, and
that's what he's saying to me, Like he's smiling, say
he's going like should have known, but try everything once,
like you can.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
He was in a place of feeling desperate, and I
remember having conversations with him about it, and he was
just like, I got to try whatever it takes, something
to do whatever it is. And he believed for sure
that it was helping because he would see different results
and maybe it did in some ways, and maybe this
was always going to be his path, you know, I
don't I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah, it's hard to tell. Even from what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
He's just saying that like when you go and you're
thinking something is helpful to something that like makes things
a little worse. Yeah, it's a little confused, like you know,
it's like a little confusing and stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
So wow, this is great man.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
That was just in a quick you know, a quick
reading too, but they're definitely very spot on.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I want to talk to you, like eventually when you
have time like privately about like intimate things and stuff
about your family and stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah. I would love to do that.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
And maybe when I come on your podcast, we'll do
a longer one as well and see what else comes up.
This was fascinating Again You're you're saying things that you
couldn't even Wikipedia, you couldn't google. I mean you could,
you know, you could maybe get a name or something,
but you wouldn't know about the teeth. You wouldn't know
about the hair, you wouldn't know about a lot of
the things you spoke of. So yeah, again, I I

(26:06):
stand a believer and you know in this field.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Thank you for sure.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
No, and and listen is great.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Great talking with you really a privilege to hear your
story and and what it is that you've been doing
to help so many people in law enforcement and just personally,
you know, because it is when the passing of a
loved one is very challenging. It was very hard on me,
and you know it still is. But when you feel
like there is a way to connect with somebody uh
and give you some kind of closure, it's it's priceless,

(26:36):
it really is. So thank you, thank you for being
on the podcast, for joining me. I wish my wife
could have been here. She would have loved it. She's
the a the Hoole part of our podcast. So she's
doing a movie in Puerto Rico right now. So I'm
rolling solo on the podcast. But I can't wait for
everybody to check out your podcast, which I know just
launched again. Just going to repeat that connect with Jonathan

(26:57):
Mark which just launched. Where can it working with this
anywhere you get podcasts, I'm assuming.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Writer anywhere you get podcasts, So.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Everybody be sure to check it out. And I will
also be on Jonathan's podcast and we will dive into
some more uh fun topics for sure.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Thank you man than for having me.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Thank you all right, take care.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Wow, Well there you have it.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I'm telling you people there that I could there's you know,
I wonder myself, Okay, could he wikipedia a name? For sure,
you can do that. But he was still saying things
that he couldn't have possibly known. It's not anywhere on
the internet. How my father passed what he passed from
what it was like, if it was easy or in
his sleep or any of that. I had a feeling
if somebody was gonna come through, it'd be my dad.

(27:41):
I really believe that my dad has a lot to say,
and it's such a true story that things with his hair,
his teeth, his appearance, those are all spot on, and
even the way he spoke about my mom. So yeah,
I'm fully a believer. This is unbelievable. Thank you again
Jonathan for stopping in. He's at Ado and everyone. I

(28:02):
hope you enjoyed this podcast. Until next time.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Thanks for listening. Don't forget to write us a review
and tell us what you think.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
If you want to follow us on Instagram, check us
out at he said ajav Orsons at email, Eric and
Ross at.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
iHeartRadio dot com.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
He said.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
AJAB is part of iHeartRadio's my Ultuda podcast network.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
See you next time.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Bye,
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