Dewan Our Own Thing with Jenna Dewan

Roselyn and Eric are joined by their friend Jenna Dewan.

Eric and Jenna go way back so they want to cover everything.

From pregnancy cravings to crystals and how dancing is the language of love.

Plus Jenna opens up about her plans to have more kids!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is he said, jo with Eric Winter and Rosalind
Fanteva French fry, Little French fry, you just call me.
You're right, that's what happens when Spanish. I just don't think.

(00:22):
It's like you said, you don't think in English. I
didn't think in Spanish that was the problem you have.
I just started saying something, so I called you my
little French fry, My little French fry, be your nickname. No,
it's not going to be my little French fry super size.
Now I feel like eating French fries. You know. I
love the French fries. Eric doesn't like potatoes too much, guys,
he hates much potatoes. Happens to be my love French fries.

(00:44):
I love French fries. Not really. You don't even need them.
If they were super healthy, I would eat them all
the time. But you know you have to kind of control, Forgod,
you're a freak. Yeah. Hey, it's a vegetable, one of
your favorites. Um let's talk about a bird. Let's talk
about the guest we have coming on to them. So
excited is are you excited? So excited? We have Jenna
Dwan here today, my girl from which is of Eastern

(01:07):
You know that I'm excited. I have her book here,
Gracefully You Finding Beauty and Balance in the every Day,
and she's gonna sign it. I can't wait. I can't wait.
You know she has She's a machine. Jenna is amazing.
Jenna is an actress, a dancer, producer, a host. What
isn't she doing? You know? Flirty Dancing just wrapped on Fox,

(01:29):
but you can see her on soundtrack now streaming on Netflix. Netflix.
And then she started dancing um with Jennet Jackson and
then Pink, Mr Elliot, Ricky Martin, Christina Guilera. She's really amazing.
She's danced with everybody she we've seen her. Remember we
saw her dance at a charity thing with Travis, one
of your favorites from So You Think you can dance?

(01:51):
She kills it. Oh my gosh. I love I love
talented people, and she's so talented. So I'm very excited
that she's here. Let me ask you something now, we're
talking about dancing. You know, I've never asked you this directly,
but you're a dancer. You dance your whole life. Um,
I can shake a leg. I mean, I'm pretty good.

(02:11):
I'm okay. Would you say I'm okay. We're just handing
pretty good? Not even okay. We're talking about I can move.
I got some rhythm. That's how I called Eric. That's
his nickname. Cho Chucchi, Chucchi Chucchi. I love you to death,
but can you move? Are you? You're out of your mind?

(02:33):
I got rhythm, but okay, settled down. My question for
you is like with Flirty Dancing, the show on Fox.
You know people connecting through dance. Is that we'll clearly
you say I suck at it, so it's not our
love language. But is that a love language is a
you know what? I think dancing is a love is
the is the love language. So I don't have to
read read your book languages. You just said it. I

(02:59):
commend the most important one, which is dance. But you're
saying I suck at dancing, which is also like, because
I have a love language, your love language is communication.
But exactly, but if the dancing led to sex would
be great. The thing is I crushed it at our
wedding and we danced. Did I didn't want you tell
that story? So guys, so we had an amazing wedding

(03:20):
in Puerto Rico. It was a destination wedding. It was
a whole week long. It was the most beautiful night
of my life. And we I wanted to do like
a dancing with the stars type of thing for the guests.
So before the dinner, right is my first dance, and
then we were going to perform this thing. So I
have second outfit change with my second of course I
have four changes, but anyways, the second one, so the

(03:42):
second one. Um, we hired a choreographer and a dance
studio for months and tell people how miserable you were
the first two months. He hated every second of it.
He was not enjoying the chat and the fox straw
that we had to do. I was very intimidated by it.
But see, this is the part of the problem. You
are not the best dance teacher. That's the reality. I

(04:03):
don't have your patiently clearly, so it doesn't work with me. Listen,
I have a lot of patients with animals and with kids, adults,
not so much zero eric zero zero, like I would
try and take. That was part of the problem. Our
dance teacher had a lot of patients with me, and
you would be mad if I didn't have to step
down within like five seconds because it was elemental. This

(04:24):
is not elemental when you're not like I didn't grow
up a dancer, played sports, but this is what happens
to guys. I did argue every day going for a while,
I argue it was it was like like embarrassing, like
in front of this guy, and he would look at
us like this guy's why are they getting married? They
don't get along because it would be very tense. And
then one day I said, Eric, no, and the one
day you're like, what do you? How do you? How

(04:44):
do you want me to do it like this? And
he exaggerated every single move like making fun of himself,
like annoyed, And I said, bingo, that's exactly how you
have to do it. Just make fun of yourself, exaggerate,
being ridiculous. That that's when you're gonna look amazing. Done
done done, dune done done, Dunno, that's pretty good beat

(05:05):
boxing too, I don't know, baby. That's when I got
into rocky mode. But dance rocky. It wasn't rocky mode,
but you did really great on the day of the web.
Come a wait, it was a rocky mode. I was
all in because at that point after I taking out
like a sport, and I was so competitive with myself
that I wanted to nail every move. I was even
rehearsing home. K I know you were. It was very cute,

(05:26):
and you get annoyed. I said, hey, let's versus it. Oh,
I know it already, but I don't. I don't remember
that part, but this is what happened. So my second
change was supposed to be my my my third change
end up being my second change because I didn't rehearse
the dance with my second dress, and we went upstairs
to the hotel and I changed for the performance. And
I come down and I realized, I cannot dance with
these shoes or this dress. I can't even move, So

(05:48):
I have to switch to my third dress, which was
short and the shoes were very uncomfortable. So you did
amazing and I actually sucked. It. Sounds ridiculous. My third dress,
four shoes, like during your first war, your first wading.
No wonder you wanted your first wedding, because this sounds

(06:09):
crazy at four dresses, five shoes, always changing. Because if
I was I was going to remarry again, I was
going to go all out like I said, go big
and go but I thought, I thought I messed up
in the day. I remember replaying it because one of
the things I don't like, I don't let go of
things easily, and I remember replaying like one misstep, I
think on the fox trot. I don't remember that. I
was annoyed. I can't even move. It was uncomfortable. So

(06:29):
you know, we should renew vows. That's what you're saying, right,
You new vowels with another dance. We should do like
a whole like when maybe a fifteen our fifteen anniversary.
We should do another small this time um for a
destination little revo wedding, and then we need to dance
again so I can redeem myself and I can choreograph it.

(06:53):
Because I will agree, dancing is one of the sexiest
qualities someone can have, There's no doubt about. Like I saw,
remember you dance at the wedding like you had a
dance for me, like a performance, like another day, another change.
It was a little absurd, but I sank and I
danced for you, and you were so drunk you don't
even remember. It was pretty hammered. It was like two
in the morning. I was like wrapping to all this

(07:13):
eighties nineties. I had no boys because I had such
a great time. By the time we had had to
sing what was the song? Um, I don't remember, do
you remember me? That's right, that's right, right, right, that's right,
that's right, that's right, and you crush it. And I
just remember being on the stage going, yeah, she looks awesome.
You did dancing up there. That's so good. I love dance.

(07:36):
It's sexy as hell. Wow, I should dance more often. Yeah. Back,
I'm gonna get my ass back to dance class, right,
I'm in. Well we did. Recently we had went at
our daughter's school. We did a fundraiser which was a
salsa a salsa lesson for a fundraiser for school. The
second and huge hit. A bunch of people showed up
and I was so excited. First of all, that are
the dance instructor crushed it. He was dancing salsa with Rosalind,

(08:00):
another good friend of ours. Melly fully slced dancing with
two women at the same time, full improv improvisation, and
it was. It was one of the most magical things
I've ever seen, Like he shut down the whole place.
Everybody's just watching the three of you dance. I've never
seen a three simon salsa dancing is It's an incredible sport.
I recommended to every single little girl and every little boy.

(08:21):
It's important to be able to move. I came, I
want to hear if if everyone is a good dancer,
because I know you're like tons of pressure on Sabella
to be a good dancer. And I'm sure with Jenna
being like, can we talk professional dancer? Like I always thought, Okay,
first of all, I'm a frustrated figure skater because in
Puerto Rico we don't have that sport. My entire list
makes no sense. By the way, I one time, I know,

(08:41):
but you've been on ice one time? Yeah, because in
Puerto Rico we don't have that. But you know that
if I had my way, I would If I would
have let's say that I was born and raised in
the States, I would have been a figure first time
you would have fallen and banged your elbow. You'd been like,
I've done with it. Hurt, hurt anyway. So I always thought,
if I ever have a daughter, my dream is that

(09:03):
she's going to be a figure skater. But that didn't
work out because Sabella wants nothing to do with ice.
She cook here less. So I said, okay, so I
need to settle for a dancer. I'm assuming I dances.
I was four years old. She's going to be a dancer.
So she's been dancing. She's since she's three and a half.
She's now eight. So she's been very good and disciplined
about dancing. But I don't think she's she's as good.

(09:24):
So sad say, I love you, but you don't what
to do have to say with something. She's a show
girl because she will complain about it. She will point
her toes and then show that she's don't want three
four recitals when the day comes on stage. She's a
rock star and she does it so beautifully, but at
a class I wish that she was a little bit
more talented. I love you, but I have a kick

(09:48):
as a tennis player. She's an amazing tennis players. True,
so you know what I didn't get my dancers sports ability,
and she did. Even though you said, you say you
were an athlete in school, I don't. But I was
a runner, Eric Winter, it's nonsense. You ran for turkeys
in Puerto Rico, which also doesn't make a lot of sense.
You said you did the turkey run every year. I

(10:09):
don't want everything you said every year to come up
with a turkey I did. It's the weirdest thing. I
never can we call my my my parents right now
because I want to. Why do you what it's notes anyway?
So the let's conclude this segment, Erica ken Dance. I

(10:33):
want every single turkey race said. Belly is a great
tennis player, and we cannot wait. We kind of way
to talk to Jenna because we love her and she's amazing.
We'll be back. We are back, Jennis here, hie, guys,

(10:59):
we just get done hyping up you did earlier segment
talking about you. I wish I would have heard that.
I'm starting with which is of East End. She's a
huge fan and Yello, you're one of our producers, huge fan.
Thank you. Talked about all the cliffhangers we left and
what could possibly have happened how you ended up with
Dash and killings. I did see something. I read something online.

(11:21):
It was like TV line and they wrote what they
thought happened, and it was the most amazing thing I've
ever read. Just send it to you more cliffhangers than
any show on television to see if that it comes
a back as a like a one like a movie.
I tried, should team up on this together? Yeah, together?
Because I was talking to Maggie. I was going, I mean, yeah,
we could make it happen. I tried for a while

(11:44):
there as well. Um, it's not impossible, but we have
to get the rights from now. All right, we're going
on you know, people that make it learn. I know
it's like everything in this business point as easy as
it seems, but I personally think that would be the
most fun and amazing for the fans. We're going to

(12:05):
work on it. Did they start a petition that does?
They have a bunch of what if they just called
it which is of the East Shore and did our
own version instead of Freya. I was like, I'm like,
I'm Dan. We put it on YouTube. That's awesome, Okay,
miss so many things. You're so busy. You have your book,

(12:25):
which I'm so happy I have my copy here, so
you're gonna sign it from me? Ah, of course I will, yes,
And then you also have Flirty Dancing on Fox which
just finished yep, just finished. Awesome, my mom. We love
to shot you by my mom is obset my should
be on the show? Could my Mom season? The most
fun show to do and be a part of? And

(12:47):
what's really nice is I see people on the streets
and they come up to me and they all want
to be on the show. That's like, how do I
sign up for this show? So let me did the concept?
Like it was your idea, You're like, I want to
do a show about know it was completely Fox's idea. Um,
they brought it was a show in the UK first,
and I watched the first episode. I was in tears.

(13:10):
It was amazing. It was like the most beautiful show.
It was heartwarming and adorable, and they wanted to bring
the show here, but they wanted to do it the
exact same way. So they wanted that same heartfelt, loving
feeling that is in it. They weren't going to make
it a little bit more salacious or anything like that.
And they asked if I wanted to produce it and hosted.

(13:32):
I was like, yes, I like it's fun for me
to host, but it's always has to be something that
I genuinely am interested in or lit up by. And
I liked the idea that they were going to connect
in a different way. That wasn't just the dating shows
we're seeing that you know, you know what I'm talking about.

(13:54):
It was a little more heartfelt. One of your passions dance.
So yeah, dance is the language of love. It do
so if you you when you dance, you've had like
it's amazing. Yeah you me, it's like super amazing when
I er well, the best partner in the world. Move
well with Erican is the language of I don't know

(14:16):
what what you know? What's good about a kid about
I'm gonna do something for a white boy that that
shouldn't be able to dance. He is very You're very daring.
That the same way you met me and you're like, hello,
my name is Eric, what's your name? And he was
like so like open and like comfortable with himself to
come up to me. I was like, you're talking a
bit nothing nothing, nothing with me, and watch these moves

(14:48):
I know. And then he will just dance anything with
no rhythm, but he will do it. There's my question.
He is. He's probably really in the same world you are.
You have fun dancing. I have so much fun dancing
with him. It's not a trained dancer. Y Yeah, he's
not like laying in Seinfeld where he's just throwing his body.

(15:10):
He has and he has fun doing it, which is
really fun to go dancing with him. You know. It's
not like somebody who just like when you were young,
like in high school in college and things like that,
was it important to you to date somebody that was
able to dance like a mover a break. No, I've
dated so the guys i've data have been completely different.

(15:32):
There's literally not been like a through line. And actually
the through line is they're all funny I like to
talk about, which is important. Sense of humor has always
been there. But um no, I actually in high school
didn't data dancer. Yeah, I didn't think it would be
a look if somebody I bet you, if somebody hated dancing,
it was like I won't get up. I won't get

(15:52):
up and dance with you. Um, that could be a problem,
But that's not like a full blown deal breaker, totally true.
I just need the personnelity me that will be willing
to have fun and make fun of themselves and have
a good time. Otherwise you take yourself way too seriously
for me, and I can know I get it, Okay,
so I want to talk about your book. Okay, gracefully
you finding beauty and balance in the every day. So

(16:15):
what made you decide to write this? I thought I
was making a poetry book. At first, um the the
publishing company, kind of came to me about doing a book,
and they said I could do whatever I wanted, and
I said, well, I've allay. I love poetry, so I
thought it'd be nice to do a coffee table book

(16:35):
that's all poetry that you write, your own, a little
bit of both. I was going to curate from different
poets that I love and then up and coming poets,
and then do some of my own. I was gonna
do beautiful pictures and it was going to be a
full coffee table book. You should do that anyways. I
know I actually might still do it, but at the
time I was really into poetry, so I was like,
this is this is what I want to do. And

(16:56):
then along the process and started adding little stories into it.
The first chapter and I'd write a little personal story.
Then I had a lot of people asking me all
about all these different parts in my life, and then
I felt like, well, this is a book that my
daughter is going to read one day, and this is
a really great example to sort of put your stamp

(17:16):
into the world and like what you want to say
and sort of the deeper more I called my woo
woo spiritual side that I don't always I don't think
people in the public most of the time know that
about me. They think, oh, she she might be into this,
but they don't know a lot about them. So if
that would be fun for Everley when she's older to
read this and be like, oh, my mom was into
this and she had this happened to her. And so

(17:37):
then it just evolved and all of a sudden we
had this lifestyle with poetry, but with all kinds of
different things. That is still a coffee table book, but
it's a little bit more personal. It's personal, it's beautiful,
it's insightful, it's like cotton candy, like a look at this,
And that's exactly what I wanted everyone want to do.

(17:58):
I know. It's really really great love that you dove
in about your crystals because I knew about the crystal,
was just knowing you. And for years now Rosalind's obsessed
with this crystal idea. You just noticed the crystal as
soon as you came in. There's a giant Selenite in
front of me, and I was like, you, guys, did
you know I was coming? And I just thought it
was the matter horn in Disney Last Disney totally does.

(18:23):
That's hilarious. But so explain to me the crystal thing,
because I'm still crystal learning. They give off energy, yes, right, right, well, yes,
there's all different ways in which people work with crystals.
Like crystals, I feel there's different properties with each different
kind of crystals. So there's some that are great in

(18:46):
different rooms for different reasons. Some people put them in baths,
which is like something I really like to do. It's
sort of you know, do they vibrate like crystals vibrate
like they give off a vibration of No one really knows,
to be honest, and I guess someone might know. It's
more like just to detox charge the water your bath.
I think it just makes me feel good because at

(19:08):
the time I go, if it makes me feel good,
I'm happy about it. And I love the look of them,
and I do love I did have like a fun
person come over and talked about how different crystals and
different parts, according to what they believe work in a room,
but it's kind of at the end of the day,
they're beautiful. I like them. I'm drawn to this something

(19:30):
that you know is as you were a little girl. No,
I think I had my first crystal. I think I
wrote about it was when I was twenty one. A
mssus who got me into all of this gave me
one and I was like, oh, this is the most
beautiful thing. I It was a pretty rock. You know.
Although my dad recently told me he did take me
to a gem show, like a crystal gem show when

(19:52):
I was a kid. He's like, I couldn't get you
to leave, like you just wanted and you were obsessed
with the amethyst, and all he wants the purple. So
I do think it's been in there for a long time,
but now it's But I told you I had to
cut myself off because I started looking around my house
and I have so many crystals, and I tallied it
up in my head and I was like, that's enough.
That's what happened. So, you know, you and Steve are

(20:13):
hanging out and he sees forty crystals for the first time.
What Steve's reaction to forty crystals laying across the house
Steve every now and then, Yeah, he just breaks into
song and called his body down every now and then.
I think about, like, what was your reaction the first
time you started dating me when you come over and

(20:33):
there's nothing but crystals. He was not necessarily into any
of this, but now he has like his own little
you know, he likes to collect the crystals, has his
own little thing. But it's it's my thing. You know
that he has adopted. He wants the girls adopted exactly,

(20:54):
exactly like crystals for me exactly. Yes, yes, I do.
Steve going to psychics now, I think he went. He
went to one when because he was intrigued and it
was amazing. Okay, she was a medium, so it's different.
Who's to this day one of the most uncanny even Steve,

(21:17):
who is He's so scientific minded, He's very based in reality.
He's like, I can't explain this, so so she was
right on, oh, I need her number, beyond beyond. He
had never done any of this stuff before. You No,
that's exactly. You know what happens anything like four psychics
on my phone, I'm like trying, who do I reach

(21:38):
out to? Had a medium at the house and nobody
wanted to connect with me. By the way, remember you guys,
did everybody want to talk to her? And Tyler is
like scratching a paper really fast. I'm like, huh, He's like,
no one want contact, want to talk to me. I
want to talk to me. You haven't loved ones have

(22:00):
crossed over. Yeah, finally my grandma came through I think
it was, and like some people finally showed up. They
felt bad. I guess maybe I spent like out on
like some retreat and they're like, oh, Eric trying to
reach the dead. Let's all go find Eric. No one
cared about me. She had like thirty people talking to
them two minutes. That's how I I'm the same way.
I'm the same way. They like push over people to

(22:20):
come there and talk to me. There was a girl
that day that, um, I love this girl, and we
ended up doing a Lifetime movie about the girl and
I played her. Nobody knew you told me this, Yes,
this is crazybody knew that I was going to do
this movie because Lifetime said his top secret the guy
illegal he was dealing. So this was happening while we

(22:42):
were about to start shooting, and she said, nobody needs
to know anything, because you know, this movie is very complicated.
So there's no way Tyler Henry knew about this movie.
Nobody knew, right, And we were like two weeks away
from going to Canada. And I'm not joking, I'm sitting down.
First of all, didn't they tell you bring put two
pictures of the two people. Do you want to connect?
Don't tell him anything, just put them inside an envelope.
Put the envelope in front of him. Don't say anything.

(23:06):
So I picked my grandma and my grandpa, and I
put a picture. That's it. We start doing the reading.
He's already connected before we even start rolling, right, So
he's already like freaking out sweating, and he's writing his
notes and he says, we have you have a lot
of people that want to communicate. And the first thing
he says is, there's an old man. He died very young.
Actually it starts with an E. His name is Enrique,

(23:30):
and you Enrique, you write it with an E. And
immediately I was like, oh, there's no, Oh my god,
my grandpa. He has a picture in front of it.
And then he goes, oh but wait, wait, wait, somebody
wants to somebody wants to just come in. She doesn't
want anybody else to speak. Uh, And I'm like okay,
and then he goes, she um Is fears, Oh my gosh,
she's so fierce. She wants you to know it wasn't

(23:50):
her fault. You need to do some rewrites. And she's
dancing in heaven. Oh my goodness. And she died on
her favorite holiday. And she died. The thing that she
um Is said about the most is it happened during Christmas. Christmas,
which is her family's favorite time of the year. So
for the rest of their lives they're going to be
reminded of her death. Goodness, do you know who I'm

(24:11):
talking about. I am now shaking, I mean tears, going,
oh my god, it's Debbie. Oh my god, Debbie. And
he goes, yeah, Debbie. And moments like that that really
are powerful to me because that's not that wasn't out.
That's not good. I always go, what did you google? Right, Baty?
I fully believe in after that experience, I was like,
even though nobody want to talk to me, I believed

(24:32):
in it. In that Okay, that's exactly what happened with Steven.
I'm know, the crazy one and It's funny because listen,
I grew up like loving psychics, and then my mom
is a born and Christians. She's very religious and you know,
and evangelistic people that don't believe in psychics. And my
mom is a completely again, so you have to stop.
And I'm going so for years, maybe since I moved
to l A at twenty one, until I met you,

(24:54):
I was like, no more of that, you know. I
just pray to God and I don't have to be
searching for nothing, and that's it. And I was perfectly
fine with it. I made Eric like maybe like five
years into the subject, five years into the marriage, I'm going, um, Eric,
something is going on with you and this is just
a little vain and it's just the business related, you know.

(25:14):
But when I met Eric, I was like, this guy
is just it's talented and it's so good looking and
everybody loves him, but he's missed a congeniality and he
always gets so close to everything. Yeah, but nothing tips
you know what I mean. And I will be a
witness of like emails. Everybody loves Eric and everybody loves Eric,
and it's between every and somebody else, everything somebody else
and he doesn't get the freaking part. And I'm going,
there is something going on that is supernatural here that

(25:37):
we just can't control. I need you to go to
somebody because we need to find out, like who you're dead.
It was fair and I went and as soon as
I walked in the room, because you you know how
I am with Sabella and when we started doing and
I was like so obsessed with my daughter and being
a dad. And she walked in. She as you came

(25:59):
in whole in a little girl's hand, the first thing
you said when I walked in the door. And I've
never met this woman. I'm like yeah, um like and
then she goes, you have a really a real problem
letting go. She's gonna be fine, you can do things.
You're so worried about losing her. Oh my god, I'm

(26:20):
like baling because he didn't want to really okate, he
didn't want to work anywhere but Los Angeles because he
wanted to be next to us about I totally understand.
I think I'm I'm the same way I've always said this,
like there is such a beautiful connection with you and
Sabella that I'm but I get it because that you

(26:42):
have to sort of release, the you're gonna live your
life too, and they're gonna be okay, and you build
that support structure around them, and it's still difficult. You know,
you go take off and travel, it's not easy behind
and you've done it. It's hardly because I just get guilty,
like a like Mom Guiles as you call momkill happens

(27:03):
really sad. It's really sad. And then sometimes even with
Dylnight now, like I'm working and like like he was
like for three or four days very funky with me.
I wanted nothing to do with me. And I'm always
there a back of this little voice going is because
I'm working and he doesn't see me for seven and
then Nanny's there and I call all the time on FaceTime,
you know, but there's always a part of me that
goes and it's it's interesting because my mom My mom

(27:24):
is witchy. Like my mom has a third eye and
she dreams about having a third eye, you know. So
even though she's very religious and she doesn't believe in anything,
she is very gifted. She has the intuition if my
mom tells you something, it's gonna happen. To the point,
this is how crazy it is. I'm mat oric. We're engaged.
We go to Puerto Rico on vacation. I think it's

(27:44):
the second time you made my parents right. So I
take him to where I grew up my house, and
my mom says, rusk, I mean, I want to show
you something, and go okay, So she opens it. My
mom is a great seamstress and everything with her hands
like needing it like incredible, right, like an incredible same stress.
So she opens his closet, not joking, head to talk.
The closet full of boxes with clothing for a little girl,

(28:04):
booties and like boxes for a girl. And I'm like,
she's like, look all I've emite all this for pregnant mom.
What are you doing And she's like, oh, because you're
gonna have a girl. I'm going, Mom, I'm not pregnant.
I don't even know when when I'm gonna have a kid.
We're going through So I want to show you something.

(28:25):
And I opened the closet. I'm going, don't freak out,
don't be like, get to go weird or my mom,
don't freak out. But she's already planned a child, and
its boxes and boxes of clothing and the most beautiful
booties and everything handmade, everything one of a kind. And
he's like looking at me, like you are what's going
on going? I don't know, but my mom thinks that
we're gonna have a girl. What do I have first?
A girl? Oh? That's amazing with don't we talked about

(28:50):
it with I can't remember. But you're pregnant again? Yeah?
Are you good with pregnancies or is it tough? You are?
It doesn't it doesn't beat you up? Do you love it?
I do like being pregnant people, But I mean there
are definitely moments where I'm like, the first trimester of
this particular pregnancy, I was sick a lot, It was

(29:13):
nauseous a lot. You know, Um, it was a little
harder and you have a taller this time around. It
a little like just a little bit different. Um. But no,
I think I'm in the category of like, I like
to be pregnant pretty good. You know what. What's so
funny is everyone keeps asking me this. It's so funny
in this world where like you get engaged, it's like
when are you married? When's your kid? You have a kid?

(29:35):
They're like, when's your next kid? You have a next kid?
They're like, when's your next kid? It's like, when does
it stop? I never ste But what's so funny is
this time around people are asking me, you know, are
you done, and I every time I go to say
I'm done, I can't say it. So it's very interesting
to family. I'm I'm going to have another kid. I
don't know, to the universe, and you have siblings, so

(29:56):
you grew up, you know, not only I was fine
with one. You know, we had one, and I was like,
I'm cool. I was so I was an only child
until I was eighteen, and then my dad had I
had kids, so I have three half brothers, but I
didn't grow up with them, so I still act a
very only child. It's like I'm literally only childish. I
always say that. I was like that, that's that holy child.

(30:17):
And so I was comfy with every just being one.
But then as life happens and you go or you're
gonna have you're gonna have another one, I don't know,
I think, oh, listen, if I am I going to
decide to soon, like, because you know I'm not gonna
wait five more years. You want to have another one,
I let's have another one. I'm a great you you don't.
You're not a fan of being pregnant, right, Yeah, And

(30:40):
I feel bad. I apologize to all the mommies. And
I love being a mother, but I have to be honest. Yeah,
it's tough. It's tough. It was very No. I didn't
love it, you know, and I don't. I don't, I
don't know. I don't want to be ungrateful because I
actually think, thinking back, I had really great pregnancies. I
just feel everything. I'm so in tune with my same everything.
I feel everything, and everything is heightened for me. I

(31:00):
didn't love it. I didn't love breastfeeding. I thought it
was brutal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it wasn't my it's tough.
I have the same thing. I'm very I'm too in tune.
I think it's a dancer thing. There's one thing different now,
I know. I feel that's weird. It's going on. You know,
it's like all that even with Dylan, she would start

(31:21):
to get really you know what happened like I am claustrophobic, right,
and it didn't happen with with Sabella, but with Dylan
halfway through I think it was I am had I
had to I ended up going to therapy about it
because I'm going I think I'm going to go crazy.
I'm going crazy. What's talk with me? You were claustrophobic
or you're claustrophobic for him, That's funny. Steve does that

(31:42):
sometimes he has a moment where he'd be like, I
think about it too much. I get class from thinking
about him, not where to move, to the point that
I was like, get him out of my body right now,
like I couldn't. I was like, I have an alien
growing inside of me. And I will be in teams
going this is all I wanted. I worked for this baby,
really want to. So many in Vitros is like, I

(32:03):
work so hard, got it? What is happening to me
that I don't want him inside my body? And then
I will be crying, apologizing to him, saying I'm sorry,
I'm sorry because I'm going to I'm going to create
this kid to come before. He's gonna just gonna come
out because I'm willing that. You know, I believe that
the universe is very powerful. So I'll be crying and
apologizing to him after telling him get out of me.
It was horrific. I'm going he can move what's inside

(32:24):
of me? Like one day, this is very personal. This
is crazy. We were renting a house because we were
remodeling our house because we had an issue, and it
was a two two levels and I will get severely hot.
I will have to get completely naked. And I walked
naked like a two in the morning to the balcony
and I just want to throw myself yes and four

(32:47):
four four Yes. That's the other thing I've this happened.
This is so people. You know, women are unfortunately so
nervous to talk about and I feel bad talking about
it right now. See, don't feel bad. I mean there's
so many people that feel that way. I've talked to
so many mothers that've had pre part of that's part
of that part of the Yeah, it's anxiety or the

(33:12):
hormones create these issues and you're going, oh my gosh.
And also because my pregnancy was IVV, so many one
was well I'm pregnant. I had to continue doing progesterone
the whole time. I went to the therapies that I
love this lady Maxine, and I was like, I'm going crazy,
Like what am I going to do? I won't survived.
I have like a month and a half more left,

(33:32):
I'm dying. And it was so simple, and she said
to me, listen, it's you're very controlling, You're very strong.
Pregnancy is the only time in a min's life that
you have zero control and parenting exactly, and parenting all
you have to think about is And people don't talk
about this. I had four kids and I went through
exactly this with every single one. You just don't talk

(33:52):
about it because you're embarrassed. You don't want to talk
about it. He goes. All you have to do is think,
is this going to be my state for the rest
of my life? Know how much? So? I have two
more two more months left. You can do anything for
two months. True, So every single day when you get
the anxiety, you just go, I only have two months.
It's not for the rest of my life. It's not
for the rest of my life. He's going to come out.
Was it better as soon as he arrived? Or did

(34:15):
you was on you never had you never had postpart
pre partum. I guess the word never, my goodness, part yeah,
you're a postpartner. Never. I was like so happy. I
was like, oh my god, this was the most incredible thing.
I hate a pregnancy. Then you have the baby and
they're like all over. I see's so funny. Second time around,
it's it's like I have this feeling of oh, it's

(34:37):
almost over. You know, I'm kind of bummed. I'm like
staying at long. But I think it's also because I
know it's like it's like the first baby your life.
He's like, I know the sleepless nights that are coming.
I know what's coming. I'm like three more weeks. With breastfeeding,

(34:57):
I was really good breastfeeding. I loved breastfeeding. I also
worked with an incredible dula who stayed with me for
a while, who helped me with the breastfeeding. But every
latched milk him fine, problem, were you one of those
ladies that have like bags frozen in the freezer. I
didn't produce over. I literally produced enough drop like exactly

(35:19):
enough of nature is wild to me. Isabella. We get
into so many fights because I wasn't producing anything and
he didn't want to give her formula. It was it
completely gets given. We ended up doing like a hybrid
bolth some formula something, but we but we would argue
also over the fact that because I'm super by the
book and like everything's scientific and I need to make

(35:42):
this connection where just yes, yes, he's like rules like
doesn't doesn't go over the speed limit. Meanwhile, I'm like
lead foot, like I don't know what my plan is
for today, figuring it out, and you're both like that,
like dream and big thoughts. Everything's just like I think
you see a psychic and find out that because the

(36:04):
book said you're not producing, take these pills. I went
to the to the you know, the breast part with
a pump station, like, I got these pills, take this
one from milk. I wasn't doing that. I was doing
a lot of supplement. I was to take one pill
and then forget for like three weeks. Somebody they're not
gonna make milk by taking a pill and forgetting the
next three weeks. I looked out because I had a

(36:26):
dula who would just a little sit and hand them
to me. And yeah, but I do think it came easy,
and we'll see, you know, who knows what the second
time around it might not. I don't know if you
felt this way second baby. It's just already a little
bit like, well, it's gonna be so much easier. The stress,
the pressure's way off, like it's in a funny way,

(36:46):
and people would tell us this, and until you're in it,
like with the first kids, you get supersensitive about everything, germs, this,
that ever they did. A second kid comes, you're like,
just wash it, it's fine, I'll just put it back
in there, find or just here. Given that, you feel
so much relief, like we did it once. Fine kids, Okay,
but you're really more like that because it's a boy.
Because with Dylan, it's like if he falls, I'm freaking out.
On the same way, I'm like about you're fine, Like

(37:09):
I don't I try to figure out about any of
that stuff. But it does become a lot easier with that.
What is not easy with Dylan and you'll see how
it isn't. He's like a good eater, right, she's kind
of whatever. She wasn't the best eater until like this
last year she eats a rotating of six mails. We

(37:30):
need to can we pick it up. Let's take a
little break and then we're going to talk about their
eating habits. Okay, Jenna, I need your help. So Everley
is growing up vegetarian, right, yeah, so how did you

(37:51):
make that happen? Can you convince this man over here
to allow me to have my kids vegetarian. You want
them to beg for them to be vegetarian, Yeah, all
the not yet. Well I'm vegetarian. So it was sort
of a It just was easy because that's what I

(38:12):
ate um and I liked the idea of the first
couple of years keeping it clean foods for her. I mean,
she was until preschool ruined her. She was like fresh steam.
Zucchini was like a treat, you know what I mean.
She was like really then she had her first taste
of goldfish at preschool and downhill from there. But she

(38:34):
loved healthy foods and so she was so healthy and
like we we still rarely have immune issues with her.
She's like a very strong immune system. So I was like,
okay something you know a lot of the genetics, of course,
but she was eating very clean and I didn't eat meat.
So I was like, well, I'm gonna feed her not
even fish. You don't even fish. No, but he likes

(38:57):
to eat vegetarian, so I eat. I'm doing it more
and more. Yeah, So nobody ever said to you when
you had when you were pregnant, you didn't eat any
me then what, you were pregnant and then you had her.
She has never tasted a chicken, a piece of fish,
none of that. No, and she she waves it like
a flag. So she goes to school. They have hot
lunch there, you know. Now she goes up, she's like,
I am vegetarian. Do not even let me see animal.

(39:19):
She's like a very feministic it's like, I want I'm
a veget She holds it like it's a you know
that a friend of mine said to me. And I
think she's basing it because she has a good friend
of hers that was she was pregnant, she was a vegetarian.
And then try to make the boy be vegetarian. And

(39:40):
he came out with some kind of like learning disabilities
or something like that. And she's, oh, she really yes,
And she's like, you know what, ross, don't don't do
that because you know the kids, at least until they're
five years old, you should expose them to me definitely
because of the iron. And some people will fight with
you saying, at least the formative years allow them just

(40:00):
to eat make the switch. But he's not getting enough
of the right vegetables that's giving them. That's the thing.
If you say, I'm vegetarian, but I'm only going to
give them bread and crackers. That's a problem. What I mean,
a lot of kids are carbonarians, you know pasta. Yeah.

(40:20):
By the way, I was a very well functioning carbonarian
for many years, very well for me until it didn't
like vegetables. But so every I do, I look at life,
myself included the rules. So I try and eat good.
I let myself splurge because I would go nuts if

(40:41):
I couldn't. So she I try and get her. She
normally does like to maybe one big meal. You know,
she's not like a three meal a day kind of kid.
She's like a grazer. And then she wants like one
really or two really good meals. But I try and
put in that meal or two. Most so she'll eat broccoli.
She'll eat all different kinds of vegetables. Sometimes I'll do

(41:04):
like broccoli. These like muffins as she likes, are like
eggs and broccoli, so and we kind of cook it
up with bread crumbs on top so they're yummy, or
even fine things that are yummy. And then also they
and then I'm like, okay, fine, you want some pirates booty.
That's fine, you know what I mean. But I feel
like at least I got all that, you know, but
it isn't I have like I'm not opinionated one way

(41:28):
or the other. It works for Eavy, I don't. I've
said to her many times, like, if do you want
to try meat? You know your dad eats meat. I
don't eat meat, but that's just my decision. But lots
of your friends eat me. And she's like, oh my gosh,
no way. Like it's like she's convicted. She don't want

(41:48):
to eat animals. She doesn't. Yes, She's very similar to
me because when I was younger, I couldn't get past
the idea that they were actual animals that had families,
and I was an animal lover and it was just
like it was gross to me. So for her, and
I've never said the star by the way, which this
is so interesting about what they pick up because I've
never actually said those things to her. I just said,
that's just how I prefer to eat. She's like, I

(42:11):
would never eat an animal that was alive, and my
parents used to have to. They would tell me, like
my dad one time, I was like, oh I died
of natural causes to get me to eat the chicken.
He was like, it just died of natural causes. I
had a cry over road kill and say road kill
and just start busting at tears, are like, who is
this sensitive kid? Are you gonna do the train station

(42:32):
to vegan at some point in your life or no?
I was vegan for many years. Actually I loved it.
So why did you go hard? Um, it's actually not it.
It's difficult with the lifestyle we live, with traveling and
filming and being on sets. If you have the ability
to have a meal plan or you have the ability
to plan ahead, but it's difficult when all that happens. Um.

(42:53):
I stopped when I was pregnant. Actually it was like
I had cravings and I was in London for half
the time, and that finding vegan food in London was
really hard. So I found that I was eating a
little more dairy and things were just kind of getting
in there the warranton and I kind of go in
and out, like, wish I could be you do eggs, Yeah, okay,
not as much. It's not like my favorite thing, and

(43:16):
I don't feel the best when to eat him, but
I do ever done. I wish that you would stop
eating eggs please, no expert, can we stop beating eggs? Please?
And then he stings the whole house and it smells
like I can't. I also find it's it's hard because
you can find proof and scientific evidence for both sides

(43:36):
of anything that's difficult. Food is just the number one.
So what will you do if is have you and
Steve had that conversation about he's not vegetarian? You are? Yeah?
Is going to be one vegetarian? You know. I think
for me, I like babies. My personal preference is to
keep on as much vegetables young as possible. Um And

(44:02):
then I think we probably have to have the conversation
at that time. And it's true, it's vegetables for a
long time. And that's what the doctor you just predicted
our first fight. It'sows Oh my god. No, I'm I'm
open to it. Though. If I looked at me and
said I want to try a piece of chicken, I'm like, Okay,

(44:23):
that's I think that's the right way. That's the right way,
that's that's perfect. I have a good question here, what
what's one misconception about you that you would love to
have people understand? Um m m. Misconception about me. I
don't know if I know what the conceptions of me are.
I have had a lot of people think that I

(44:44):
have it all together and that like, oh, you just
figured life out and it's perfect, and you have it
all together and you're you know, all these things. I
was like, Oh my gosh, that's so could not be
further from the truth. I mean, I have things that
work for me, but I do get a lot of
people that are surprised to know that we all struggle.

(45:07):
That I'm completely unorganized most of the time. My life
things are a nice, haphazard sort of massalon. Um. I
don't know where that. I hate the idea of perfection.
I feel that a lot you're you're perfect, your life's perfect,
or she's perfect or I'm like, oh god, it's so

(45:28):
like unreal to liveout being I know. Tell me about
your pregnancy cravings. Um, this time around, it's been not
as easy. Edvy was great, fruit citrus. I did want
ice cream, but it was mostly fruit and healthy. Um,
this time around, I want junk. The same thing for

(45:50):
me With Sabella, I was addicted to oranges. Yeah, I
will make him go to the farmer's market every single Sunday,
I gave me two bags of oranges. I could have
eight oranges a day. Yeah that was great. Really now
I don't haven't touched an orange, yeah forever. And then
the weirdest saying they're born and the craving goes ameedily way,
it's the weirdest thing. This time, I was like fighting, like, oh,

(46:13):
I had Steve running around trying to find me a
beam burrito from a loco one night. I was so specific.
I was like I think that. Look. He was like,
that is disgusted. I was like, I know, but I
need it. I need it. I was fighting like fast
food cravings, which I don't eat fast food ever, but

(46:33):
it was like everything looked good to me or like
like you know, bad ships, and so I've had to
fight it. Now I'm a little better. But the first
try to start and I love peanut butter, and with Dylan,
I will eat so much peanut botter to the point
that I was, am I creating an allergy? Yeah, this
kid is you're going to have an allergy? What help?

(46:53):
I don't know, but I was taking so much of it. Okay,
another one. You are, of course stunning beautiful, but you
think beauty starts from within. For our working moms, how
can they feel sexy and beautiful? Oh? Yes, it definitely
starts from within a hundred percent. I think that when
you see someone that's beautiful, what makes them stunning to you,

(47:15):
or what what draws you to them is their inner energy,
their essence. They're the grace the love that you feel
from them. It's all of a sudden, they're ten times
more beautiful. So I like to do things that make
me feel good and powerful and and feminine and in
control of my own self. That therefore kind of bleeds
out into everything else. And I always know when I'm

(47:38):
not doing these things to nourish myself. I can tell,
like I can just look at myself. I can see
pictures or I'll see interactions with people and I'm like, oh, okay,
I'm out of the flow. You know, I'm not nourishing myself.
So I like to I always tell moms, I'm like,
do anything, whether that is a massage or going for
a hike, or getting together friends, or going out for
drinks with your girlfriends, or meta tating seeing a healer

(48:01):
one of us. Second, whatever it is that nourishes you
therefore will make you a better mom, will make you
a better friend, partner, wife, everything and the first thing
that goes away. It's so interesting as as parents. We
just have a girlfriend who has five kids and she
just now said to me, I think I need one

(48:23):
to two days away from my kids every month, and
I was like, yes, you and Steve are going to
see this like this is like you guys have to
We have like a couple of friend of ours who
has never taken a trip, two kids, never been away. Alright,
you're gonna need. It's one thing that people shoul understands. Okay,
like get away for the weekend. If you have somebody
that you can have watch your kids, if you have
that ability, take a weekend and have a couple's weekend

(48:47):
where it's just about you guys reconnecting because you know
you've been through it once and you have a child.
It takes it changes everybody's lives. It makes it all
about that baby. Oh my god. And it should be.
But then you also you can't lose your identity as
a couple. You have to do that a couple of time,
time for yourself, moments there, and it's it should be prioritized.
Like we prioritize everything else. But most mother's parents don't

(49:10):
do it, and then you're gonna have you know what.
We we touched on a little bit earlier, but now
the next big step. And I think our listeners should
hear this conversation a little bit, which is Everley is
now going to be a big sister. That's a big deal.
And I know you had said that she's really excited
about it. But what are some of the things that
you're trying to do to prepare for that moment? Yeah,
by the way, will be in the room. No, So

(49:31):
I took a class. I actually went to a class,
Steve when I went to a class called bringing home Baby.
Did you guys do this? It's like a popular class here, um,
And it's all about if you have if you already
have one kid, bringing a new baby home. And it's
just psychologist and she's like, these are tried and true
tips and ways in which to smooth this transition. And
she explained it at the beginning, she said, you. Your

(49:53):
partner says you, You're amazing. You're the best thing that
ever happened to me. You're gorgeous, incredible. I'm going to
bring something home just like you tomorrow. She goes, how
would it make you feel? And you'd be like angry, jealous,
Yeah exactly. So she's like you have to think like
these firstborn kids that are like, well, was I not enough?

(50:15):
But of course I'm doing this class. And so there's
a lot of things we learned, and one being um,
making sure that you're all you know, you spend one
hour day with just your first more and or doing
little things and the hospital and how to introduce to
the new baby. Little things you would even think about,

(50:36):
like you know, you you have your baby, and you
would think, oh, I'm gonna have my mom her grandmother
come and bring her to the hospital. She's like the
psychologist like no, no, no, She's like, have your partner
and go get her. Make it a big thing. We're
gonna go get ice cream after and you're gonna go
meet your like make it a thing. And so she's
not walking in the hospital room with her family all together,

(50:58):
her being out side one bringing your We should have
done that. We didn't do that. That's a great idea
that but that would have been great. I would we
wanted Sabella to be and I wanted her to be
the well well well, I was delivering and she was
going to do it. She was all about it. And
then when it started happening, she was a part of
the problem. Was weird. We had to and I was
filming and we had to induce I had to fly

(51:19):
in just to to the baby so he could be delivered,
and so then he had She came to the hospital
with my mom when it got closer, because we didn't
exactly Yeah, I was midnight, my dream that's the thing.
You know, in a dream world, we all know ahead
of time. But you know, I wanted her to be there,
but she decided, you know, when he when he's out,
called me, yes, that's that's so funny. And you know

(51:41):
she said that be prepared for them to ignore the
new baby, be prepared for them to be there. Was
all these things. But I learned all these little tips
because you know, it's hard to get knocked off the throne.
I mean, the first born is like everything's about them,
and then you have a new baby. So yeah, the
class gave me a lot of I know, it was
she was. It was so funny. She was like, these

(52:02):
are the things that work. They've worked for years, do it.
And one of them was at the present. We still
have those two little just a little doll that we
got for each of them to give each other. It
was like a sock monkey, different colors, each of each
other color like, um, where's my Barbie dreams? I don't
do just that, brother, Valentine. So do you love Valentine's?

(52:29):
I do? I do like Valentine's say. I think I'm
one of those people that I don't need a big
to do about it, but I like making it an
excuse to go out. Okay, maybe a little week in
a way Steve and I have not done our weekend
a way they're supposed to do before baby comes. Maybe
we'll do it. So that's the day, Yeah, Valentine's. And
then lastly, um, yours Netflix show. So it was so

(52:59):
I was watching I'm going, you know, as a as
a you know, you singing your dance and you're act
you know, you like a triple threat. It's like a
dream job. It's a dream for me because I don't
actually sing, so I mean, but you can sing, not
really like I took one class and he's like, you're
on key, But I mean this would be this would
be years and years of me working on it to
ever be like singing like you so you know, actually

(53:21):
sing like it's like it's lip sinking. So it was
like I got to pretend to be a pop star
in my own world by lip sinking songs, sing and
I danced in and I acted it. Um, it was
a really fun, unique, very fresh show. I've never seen
anything like it. Every episode is so different. It's like

(53:42):
that it's very music videos within storyline. Yes, and some
people really responded to it. I mean there's a lot
of people are with this in my favorite show, or
they go back and watch certain clips. Um, that was
actually a difficult that that was shooting in Chicago and
talk about having kids and working. I mean the back
I was flying home every weekend. Now it's insane. Remember

(54:02):
what I was doing Witches and I would take off
at and I like table reads. That was my story.
It's a topic of conversation every single day now because
you know, he's doing the rookie here and I was
doing Ground Hotel even though supposed to Miami, we were
shooting in Los Angeles, so it was like a dream
for the first time. Now Ground Hotel is not coming back,
so I I'm assuming I'm going to do another TV show,

(54:24):
and then the whole topic is where is it going
to be shooting? You know, I know with two kids
and school, it is such a nightmare. It's a nightmare,
and it's really difficult. There's no way around it. It's
really difficult. I remember you telling me that You're like,
I put it out there for I did the same
thing flir dancing filmed in l A and it was amazing.

(54:44):
It's like now you're back to the drawing woord of like, okay,
so what's going to film next? But you figure it out,
You're going to go back and do more Broadway stuff.
He I don't think so at the moment. And it's
hard because the same deal. I can't really just go
to New York exactly. Um, but yeah, I don't know what.
He is such an incredible performer, singer, He's unbelievable. Um.

(55:10):
But like right now, we're so baby. He's going to
be in love with being a dad and it's gonna
be all consuming and it's gonna be the best thing
in Let's make it happen, doesn't. I feel like I
have like your actual soulmate best friend crystals around you exactly.

(55:31):
Thank you for being so fun guys. Thank you for
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