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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is he said, Ayadjo with Eric Winter and Rosalind Fantaz.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hello, Hello, Hello, there is a good one.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I'm excited. We have two special guests.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
From a movie that we really.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Loved, Flaming Hot, Guys, directed by Eva Longoria, we have
Any Gonzalez and Jesse Garcia, the two leads of the movie.
Flaming Hot tells the inspirational life story of Richard Montagnes
Richard Montagnez the fridole, a janitor who took inspiration from
his Mexican American heritage to develop Flaming Hot Cheetos into
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the pop culture phenomenon that disrupted the food industry. We
were able to see the movie. I've seen it twice.
Eric saw at once and I have to tell you, guys,
I'm not lying. This is true. Everybody knows that Eva's
a dear friend.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
We love her.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
But besides Eva, this movie is exquisitely directed. I think
this phenomenal is one of my favorite movies ever. Eric,
to tell you the truth, I thought it has old
ingredients to be the perfect movie. It's funny, it's charismatic,
it's the Rector Reaches story. It's a universal story. She
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did some creative stuff that is absolutely brilliant. We'll acted well.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Written, awesome movie. Let's talk to these guests.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm you're super excited about talking about flaming Hot.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Let's bring them in.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yes, I know, you guys have been doing extensive like promotion.
You guys are everywhere, which I think is brilliant and
so needed. But I guess now it's officially over, but
you're still, of course doing some stuff, like he said,
I yeiho.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, has it been fun this whole this whole roller
coaster ride.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Yeah, it's sure, it's fun. It's fun, but it's it's
you know, it wears you down a little bit.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
I can't relate. I'm having a blast.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I'm sure it looks like you're having a blast, and
you look stunning in every single outing.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's it's it's beautiful to watch.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
And we were just talking, you know, we both were
at the premiere obviously, Razon, I'd seen the movie before
with Eva, and it really is just a perfect film,
I think with you know, in every way, shape or form,
from the directing, cinematography, and to the acting. You all
crushed this, I think, with an amazing message as well,
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and just beautiful storytelling. I mean, it's really it's really
an inspirational sh.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
The movie is perfect, you know, guys. I went to
I went to Eva's house. She had a small group
of people. They were all very young. It was me,
I remember, Gina Torus and me. We were like, we
were like, oh my god, we're so old compared to
everybody else.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
She had all these young up and coming and like
big influencers, and I didn't know what to expect. I
knew it was going to be magnificent because Eva is incredible,
so I had complete faith that she was going to
deliver something really special. But I wasn't very familiar with
the story. And I remember that I saw the whole
thing and I at the end, I just couldn't believe it.
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I was like, oh, oh my god, what the heck
have I watched? And I said, Eva, you made.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
The perfect movie.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
This is everything he has everything from like every single
detail was was done brilliantly, and you guys were just
freaking exquisite, And I'm going, what what.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Did I what just happened?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I was.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like, this is amazing. I was so incredibly happy for
her and for you guys. What an incredible feeling to
know that you did something so meaningful.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, we're very we're very proud, and and
you know, you do anything and you don't know what
to expect at the end, but you can't. We all
had a high hopes because Eva's vision during production was
so specific and and we felt like what we were
doing was pretty great. And but at the same time,
you know, you never know until you get it in
front of people, and and you know, it's always kind
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of funny getting it in front of your friends and
knowing what's what's real, and but you know, the overwhelming
positive reviews and everybody's like, yeah, we.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Know, yes, well, you know, people people don't always understand.
I think it's it's great for our listeners to know this.
It's like you can do a performance, you can be
on set, you can be like that scene felt great
and still have zero clue what this final product will
really end up being after it goes through all the
notes and the producers and the executives and just like, yeah,
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all the editing, all the versions of editing, and you
realize how important, by how important by the way editing
really is, right, Like editing can change an entire performance
for bad actors and to making them good actors and
good actors that can make them bad actors, like it
can destroy a film and make a film. And I
think you know, like you said, I'm sure you both
you know, love the script. When you got it, you
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went through what you had to do to get these roles.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I want to know about the process. How how was that?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So you guys you get a call from your team
saying they're doing the flaming hot reach of Montagne's story,
did you, guys additional was it offers like how difficult
it was to get it?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Or was what was the process?
Speaker 7 (05:00):
We both auditioned extensively. I know Jesse more than I
because he you know, he's in every single scene of
this film except for me, young Richard. But I feel
like all of our friends read for it. I had
so many of my homegirls, and luckily I'm in a
really good community of beautiful Latina actresses and artists that
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we all were like, yo, are you reading for this?
Are you reading for this? And we would kind of
like compare notes on tapes and like who but you know,
but when I got when I got the script, I
was like, this is mine and I don't feel that
about everything. I've been doing this since i was nine
years old, and I've always had a really keen idea.
Like my mom tells me all the time, She's like,
you used to say that when you were a kid,
Like when you go out of auditions at like ten,
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you go, did you get it? Mama? And I'd go, Now,
I wasn't what the casting director was looking for. Like,
I've always had a very intuitive and when I read
the script there was something so spiritually intrinsically intertwined for
me with what I do that I was like, I
know with the story, with just the script alone and
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knowing Linda Ivet Chavez, I was like, I see what
she's doing on paper, and then getting to meet Eva,
I was like, I'm the only I can I could
you guys, they're great actresses out there, but this one,
this one's mine.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Did you feel the same way, Jesse, Yeah, you know,
I'm kind of have the same thing.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Like a bunch of the bunch of the homies. We'll
share auditions and make sure everyone gets a chance because
it's you know, if it's not me, if it's one
of my friends and it's like, well, we all win,
you know, And I read it and I go, oh, yeah,
this was this was written for me, Like it just
as I'm reading it, it flows out of my mouth
and I just kind of like, it's not something I
have to dig too deep to to figure out. It
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was just I think the hardest part as far as
the character was just kind of like finding the right
mix of accent, you know, because you can go too
deep of the accent and then it becomes a camperture,
you know what I mean, or you cannot do enough,
and then and then it's just Jesse so as finding
the right amount of accent, especially throughout the decades where
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it does change a little bit like his Brigard's real
accents not as not as heavy as it probably was
when he was younger. So and then there's a code
switching when working with you know, talking to the exacts
and all the things. So that was the accent really
was the hardest part. When the Whigs in the way wigs.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Brutals, I know, we were both.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
All no I mean, I mean they looked great, they
look cool, but we did we do We would do
wig changes once at least once a day sometimes and
if not twice going back because you know, block shooting
and where.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Did you get to shoot? By the way, was it
in Texas?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Albuquerque?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
It was Albuquerque.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
I wish it was in Texas because I have a
place in Austin. I would have loved to. Yeah, there's
places in Albaebue.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I spent some time there.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
How was it meeting Richard, like the real couple?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
How how was that moment?
Speaker 7 (07:54):
It was awesome. I mean, you know, they they I
could tell they were very nervous, like when we when
I first met them and went to their house, like
there was a little bit of like a hi hello,
you know, kind of like at arm's length, and that
when I saw Judy specifically a little apprehensive, I was like,
I kind of get her by herself. I feel like,
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speak her out to breakfast and made her come to
me and by where I live and Whittier and and
we had breakfast. And the first thing that she said,
I could like I could see her nerves and she
was like, I'm so scared. She's like, I've worked so
hard to absolve my past to be this like you
know Christian woman before you today. And it just reminded
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me of like all my theas and like Maawaalita's when
like you know, they've gone through so much stuff, but
they never talk about it. So then when you're going
through it, you're like you feel like you're the only one.
And I and I just assured her like this is
going to be your testimony, mama, like this is going
to help people, like to show that you got from
this to this, like I that you were just the
product of your environment, Like that's not you didn't choose that.
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And after we had that heart to heart, now me
and Judy are that's the home go.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Where I go where Oh my god, I'm sure there's
an added you know, pressure that you guys. You know,
you're taking on these people's stories and you're trying to
do them justice and tell it the right way. And
obviously there's a script that gives you that guidance. But
did you feel anything of in the process nerves they're
on set, they're watching what you're doing, or you're able
just to tune it out, make my version of what
my best version of who I think you were given
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the material I have or was there ever any kind
of added know any?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
And I work pretty differently, very differently. Really, you tell
them how you work.
Speaker 9 (09:40):
I'm I'm very I I like to live in the mind,
in the world of the of where of what I'm creating.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
So I'm very like sensory. I tend to kind of
shut out the world when I'm on a project and
and do all of that, Like I to embody a
lot of it. So like what did you eat, what
did you do? Who did the people like you talk to?
What did you feel?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Like? That's a more of a method acting perspective, as
I guess. I think listeners can maybe take from that
a little bit more trended divers that dive fully into
the character.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Yes, completely, like submerge myself in the world of that
and Jesse does not, Like I always trying to be
like Jesse, like let's go on dates, let's hang out,
like let's build this chemistry and like and.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Jesse, it's funny because and this is what's great for
our listeners. I'm I'm, I relate to Jesse a bit more,
and I go into moments when I'm in the middle
of certain scenes.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
No, you're never you're like jokes on the project I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
If the project is super light, I'm laughing the whole time.
If it's not, then there and there's moments and scenes
I'm in. I'm in those moments, in those scenes, for
those days, at those times, you know. But like even
on my own show, like we have a blast the
whole time, but if I have some serious stuff, then
I'm rained in. Also, it's a little different when you're
going on a one off on a movie, you have
a period of time you're on it, versus you know,
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five years on a series. You're just you're getting in
a machine of it. But I think for our listeners
to understand, like these are and we've maybe spoken about
it before, but these are two different, completely different ways
of approaching a role, and what works best for somebody
might not work the same for another. So, like, that's
a really funny situation. I remember I had that at
one point on the show I was doing with a
friend Rachel, where she was like really more method than me,
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and I was like, well, what are you talking about?
Going dates? But it was like a weird thing that
we were trying to relate to.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
But let me ask you something, did you stay in character? Like, well,
you asking people call me Judy.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
No, no, no, no, not that far.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
But they're there.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
You know what's so funny, Like there's a there's something
that I end up embodying when I do go there,
like like shooting Judy, like there was something more maternal
about me. I was like taking care of everyone on set,
Like even when you rapped. Do you remember Jesse the
day that I wrapped. Jesse's such a brat the day
that I wrapped, comes up to me and he whispers
in my and he goes, hey, you're unemployed.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Right after I wrapped, I go up to all the
factory guys because they're all my homies and they still
have their scene right after, like I wrapped in the
middle of the day, and I'm like, and I'm going
up to them, like, do you guys need snacks? Can
I get you something? And I was bringing them snacks
in between like the takes, just staying on set waltking
them like mama bear like you know. And then I
did Jenny Rivera and she's Vien Ferra, so I had
to go up there and like the whole time I
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was real feisty fighting people back. I'm like, it's so
interesting how when we play imagination, like if we're cognizant.
We've done enough spiritual work and enough a therapy, we
can separate. We can be like, Okay, I know right
now in this three months of shooting this project, I
am this person. But I know once it stops, like
I can go back to being Annie. But it's but
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it's it can be interesting like you're you're it doesn't
know that you're playing that this imagination.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
It's interesting because you're both obviously the leads to this movie,
and you're with each other a lot. So Jesse, are
you joking a lot? Are you in and out, like
you know, doing your thing when you're on camera and
then you're chilling and you know what I mean, you're
having a laugh and having fun or are you serious
the whole time while you're on set or which I
was tired a lot, but I was also sleeping in between.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
Sex sometimes I were like I think, Iva was saying
like she would catch some takes where I'd be asleep
on camera, like she's sleeping right there, was like I think,
but I'm like the opposite.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Like I don't. I don't. I'm not method at all.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
I go in and say the words and make interesting,
try to make interesting choices with Annie.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
In the middle of the take. Yeah, yeah, there was
one time.
Speaker 8 (13:48):
I love this story with one time where I think
it might have been where I'm trying to convince Judy
to do the slurry right, yeah, and I go to
grab her face and she grabs my hands and pulls
them down to her chest and she's trying to you,
like tell me something, and it's on her coverage and
little by little I start to pull her hands up
in the frame, just like just pull them up, and
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she's calling like this, trying to pull her hand it,
like what is happening right now?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
And even like Annie, what are you doing? I'm like, yeah,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You?
Speaker 7 (14:21):
This is my first film, and I am terrified. I'm
working across from Eva l Angoria and Jesse Garcia and there,
and I'm like nervous, like, please don't make me.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I love it. Jesse's cut from my cloth.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
It's exactly you know I asked about if you say.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I did a movie many, many years ago, and it
was with a big It was funny to me because
the actor wanted to be called by the character and
he was acting the entire time.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
We're eating the entire day. He was this person and
I thought it was funny. But you know what I think.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I thought it was funny because I, for example, champagn
when he did some I Am Some, you know, when
he was playing it like a like a mentally I
don't want to say that, like, you know, a very
specific character and he's like, for me to be able
to pull this off, I need to stay in character,
you know.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And there's a lot of people and I respect that.
I think that's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But when this is an actor that he was a
big music star basically, you know, it was like a
pop like a singer that gets this opportunity to do
this movie. And I know he was going through the
process like I want to be taking seriously right, But
to me it was very funny because I was like, dude,
it's okay. Is first of all, the material we're doing
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is pretty simple. It's all so you.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Don't have to get sew in your head about it.
It's simple. Just be simple, you know. And it was
very very very.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Interesting different for everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I know. I know, I know, but I know.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
That like that mentality rattling like has helped me working
with Jesse specifically because the person that I worked with beforehand.
He him and I operated pretty similarly in that way.
Working with someone like Jesse, I'm like, oh, yeah, every
set is not going to be like this, and it
tops me to kind of trust that that I have
skill as well as talent, like because I think in
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what we do in our creative space, it's like this
elusive like they're talented. It's like, no, we each work
at it every day. We know how to bring that script,
we know what plot is, we know what character like,
you know all these things, And Jesse kind of got
me out of my head and reminded me like, I'm
here to do the job that I was hired for,
not everybody else's job, So just sure, well, I bet.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
You that dynamic because you guys work so opposite. It
brought out a lot of really interesting choices that maybe
you wouldn't even have expected, that wouldn't have happened if
you would have been so prepared in the where you
were headed. And then him coming in with a totally
different way of approaching it. I guarantee you brought out
moments that just on camera are magical. You know what
I mean that you know we don't know because we
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weren't in those you know, rehearsals or those scenes. We
just see the final product. But I guarantee you that
opposite sort of you know, way of working brought spark
in certain Stan says, which is fresh and fun.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
When she wrapped and we had a conversation on the
parking lot and we're kind of living on each other
and and.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
We're you know, I appreciate her.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
I appreciate her method, and I feel like she appreciated mine,
and and she goes, it's funny because at the beginning
of the shoot, like I was trying to develop this
chemistry with you, and I go, you didn't have to.
We had it before we started shooting. She goes like,
I didn't see it until like now, you know what
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I mean. And there's certain times she let's hang out,
let's go on. I'm like, nah, you want to come over.
If you want to come over, hang out, watch a movie,
we can do that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
But and what's funny beautiful? I think people don't, you know,
And I like to recap this because our listeners don't
understand all of this sometimes right and those moments I
feel psychologically when you say no, how she processes it
now has to go home to it, and then you
show up at work the next day and you're on set.
All of that filter is its way into the performances
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in a way that you don't even expect subtextually, right
like him, had he gotten on a date with you,
who knows how, like you know, affected the way your
performances go. But that chemistry happens for a reason, organically
and naturally, and those little triggers make it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
But that's what I was gonna say, is chemistry and
his energy, you know, And like he's saying, it wasn't
a rejection, it wasn't anything against you. He was just
he had a different process And you know, I don't
think I need to do that, but I love you,
you know, I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Rest you know.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
But that of course, and even even more as a woman,
that's what that's does something to you.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
But just you go.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Then you go back to work the next day, and
because you're so confused about what happened, Yeah, there's chemistry there.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
And it will play into the performance of the husband
and wife. It'll play into that dynamic.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
And then all you have to do is just be present.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yes exactly, and let it flow like and listen and react.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
Yes, Like a lot of the moments that people love
between Judy and Richard on screen are is stuff that
was just Jesse and I playing like you know, everybody's
like you guys had so much chemistry and it's like, yeah,
we did. It was that it was even like that tension,
that little bubble tension of complexities in a relationship. It's like,
you love each other, sometimes you hate each other. Sometimes
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you love each other and hate each other in the
same moment, and that's what makes that spark.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
And you know what made the movie for me.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I know the moment that he calls you saying that
he got the promotion and you are at your job
and you answered the phone and you're dealing with some
clothes and you collapse on the floor because it's.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Just so unbelievable what just happened.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That was a movie for me. I was like, that's it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That is it? That phone call and that reaction is it?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Tell them Jesse, Okay, first of all, I love that
you brought that up, because let me tell you what
this little.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Goes.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And mind you, I'm an emotionalized actress, like give.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Me right, so epa goes, all right, Annie, Jesse, can
you come in here?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
And and can I was sitting I was sitting with Eva.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
I was like, I was obviously it wasn't my scene,
so I just came and sat down with her. And
because I want to I'm directing. I want to direct too.
So I'm sitting with you and kind of just hanging out.
She goes, oh, do you want to do? You want
to do the phone call with her and just give
her something. I'm like, yeah, of course, and I'm not
on Mike, and she is Mike.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
So I get on the phone and I go yeah,
and he goes, Babe, guess what We're gonna need more ties?
And I'm like, so then I start like getting getting
in there, and he goes, you won't even believe it, babe.
Me and Tony were in there, and so and so
was having sex with a goat, and then we were
like if she started saying all this stuff, and I
am like, Annie, you better act your ass off right now,
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you better.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You better so funny girl.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
So he's messing with me and he will not stop.
So that whole time that you see me like, I'm like,
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Are you joking that? Is freaking crazy.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
The whole time, and I love it because everybody brings
that up like it was just such a beautiful moment.
I'm sure he gave you.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
So much to work with and I'm like, he gave
me a lot of shape. But it worked.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
H my god, well said, you know what that right there?
You should be like, I'm a freaking powerhouse, you know
what I mean? Because that reaction affected people even though
it was so crazy what you were receiving. But that's
actually I think that's brilliant too, Jesse, that you decided
to do that because it got you out of your
comfort zone and.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Wow, it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Definitely stretched me as an actress.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
You know, and that's beautiful. I want to ask something
because I know.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
And I Eva has mentioned this many times, but I
want to know what it felt for you, this big
responsibility of knowing it's been more than twenty something years
since the studio put some money behind a Latino story.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's funny because I think.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Chasing Puppy was the last one with Linda Mendoza was
part of Chasing Puppy, and you know what, it was
interesting when Chasing puppy happened. It was me, Sophia ever
Got and Jackie Alaska's which is a big Christian singer
at the time, you know. And twentieth Century Fox put
a lot of money into this thing.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
A million.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Stephan did the score. It had all the ingredients for
this thing to really fly, did you know? And people
that have seen the movie is actually a very cute movie,
and I think Linda directed a really fun movie.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
I love that movie.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
By the way, I love it too. We had a bit,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
We had a blast, and it was so shocking when
it didn't work, and it was even more shocking when
it didn't work within the Latino demographic, because we thought,
we don't need Americans, we don't need white people, we
don't need Middle America to watch this movie. We just
need the coasts, you know what I mean. It's full
of Latinos and they're all gonna support because it's three
fabulous Latino girls representing and Amelia Stephan is really beloved.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
We're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And we got more criticism from our own than anybody else.
And therefore the movie didn't do a lot. And guess what,
it's been more than twenty years since executives what executives
have the balls to be like, you know what, we're
going to put the money, and it was a missed opportunity.
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So I know for Eva it was so important. It
is still so important that this does well because this
is going to determine is it going to be twenty
more years before this happens again or is it going
to be mediate?
Speaker 7 (23:19):
You know?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And as a director, and Eva being who she is,
you know, she's megapowerful, she's been working for so long
and this is her first big feature. I know she's
losing sleep over it. You know, thank god, that is
doing phenomenal and she deserves that, you guys deserve it.
But knowing before it opened, the what if I know
she lost sleep over it? Right, Like, how how did
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you guys deal with that? Knowing well, we're also the
face you know, it's on our shoulders?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Was that or did you just not think about it?
And you're used to this business and you're just like,
you know, what all we can do is our best
and the business is going to be the business. Did
you go that route? Because that's you know, I don't know,
what do you feel?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
I mean, uh so, my first responsibility for what the
movie was getting Richard's story right, That's all I had
control over showing up every day doing my job, being paying,
like doing a my version of Richard's story, and that's
all I could That's all I could do in a moment,
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Like I wasn't taking on responsibility for the community in
that moment, And it wasn't until like the movie is
actually getting ready to go, like, Okay, how do we
how do we expand this not only for the Latino
community but the movie that it's so relatable that it
crosses cultural lines, that we expand it out so that
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everybody can relate to it. Now, if our community supports
it and it gets out there the rest it's it's
going to bleed out and to the rest of the
other communities. And luckily this story relates is cross cultural
that anybody can relate to it. Everyone can relate to
being the underdog eating faith support system's family, you know,
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just trying to keep your dream alive and do something
that's better than the last. So, like I think Eric
says it too, like you know, there's only so much
we can do as individuals, And how we supported the
movie by grassroots advertising doing all these screenings getting people
out there to watch it, and then and then it's
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kind of like hoping for the best, you know, like
we're still posting, we're still in like go go to
Rot Tomatoes, which is now what ninety two percent or
something like that approval. Wow, is amazing, And it went up.
It's gone up, and that's last weekend's numbers are better
than the previous than then the opening, So like more
people watched it last weekend than they did the opening.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
So the words getting out.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
It's like like a it's like a platform release in
the theaters. Like if it was a theater at theatrical release,
there would be a thousand more theaters having it this
weekend than last. So it is, it is working, and
it's like and luckily it's so authentic that that it
does cross cultural lines and everyone can relate to it.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, I need to learn from you guys, because I
always feel responsibles.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's just whatever downfalls all the time with everything. She
always feel so much pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I just go, oh my god, even listen, even with
fund this fantasy island, you know, like, so what on
an incredible opportunity to have a Latino as a lead
you know, when we do two seasons and then it
gets canceled, when I just.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Go, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
But I should approach things like like you're saying, Jesse,
I did what I needed to do. I did it
with respect and love, and I think I nailed it,
and I promoted the heck out of it. So it's
completely out of my hands. But I always go, like,
what happened? What was the missing ingredient?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I have to get over that.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
You know, they say, if like everything is vibration, like whatever,
if you feel like there's going to be a missing ingredient,
you're bringing that in. You know, you say, like this
is going to be a success. This is amazing. I'm
a success. I'm amazing. We just to be here with Eva.
Jesse and I talk about it all the time, like
we're so grateful to be here, but damn right, we
deserve to be here.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
We have an event tonight and they're giving me this
a ward called the Latina Powerhouse, right, and I'm so
blessed and I'm so grateful. But I was thinking, oh,
I'm gonna have to talk and say something, so okay,
let me let me just come home with a little something.
I don't want to write. I want to be authentic
and I just want to be organic. So I'm taking
a shower this morning and I'm going, Okay, what am
I going to say?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
A powerhouse?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
What do they think? I'm a powerhouse?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
And it took me a second to be like, ross
should the fop? Of course you're a freaking powerhouse.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
You've been doing this for fucking thirty years.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's like, I am a powerhouse.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
I deserve it.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But for a second, there's always this doubt, and then
you just go, oh my god, what the heck?
Speaker 7 (27:52):
You are a powerhouse. You your work has inspired someone
like me to be like, wait, I can do it too,
and hopefully, like what me, believing that I can do
and standing my full form inspire someone else. And that's
just what we do, and we constantly remind each other.
Jesse is constantly sending me like beautiful videos to remind
me like you are amazing. He sent me this African
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proverb that I will share with you guys because I
think it was awesome. And it goes because I always
talk about like I'm you know, I just want to
be humble, like humility, and Jesse's like, shut up, like
humility is overrated, and this guy goes the African proverb goes,
I am the greatest. There is no one greater than me,
but I am not greater than anyone else.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
And when we stand in that, by you letting your
light shine, you unconsciously allow others to do the same.
By you playing small, you are not serving the world.
It costs nothing to light someone else's fire with your fire.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Absolutely, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's powerful.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
That's good. I said that.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Oh my goodness, that's good. I said that.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I think he told you that on the phone call.
It wasn't to go down in sex. It was actually
that it was like you you are powerful.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
What is next, guys, Jesse, what is next for you
after this incredible experience?
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Well, even I just did the Alexander follow up for Disney,
so we have that coming out probably next year with
with Marvin leemas directing. And I'm I'm developing a bunch
of stuff. I got some TV shows that I'm developing,
I'm looking to direct, getting something going to direct. And
you know now that we're kind of like the main
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bit of promotion for Flaming Hots kind of coming to
this part. You know, we're we're hoping for for other
promotional stuff to come up in the next few months.
But you know, just keep keep keep the train moving,
keep keep the oil, the machine well oiled.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
There's a lot. I mean, I'm working on a ton
of stuff, but.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
I love that you're dipping into other aspects of this business.
That's to me always how you continue to build longevity.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Yeah, I just you know, I mean, some people don't
want to do which is great.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
And if I had one regret from when I was like,
so I went to I started in Atlanta, and and
the classes that I was taking were like everything we
did was original material. We would write, direct, produce, and
star in our own material. So it was kind of
a think tank of sorts. We never did anything that's
ever been produced on TV, movies anything, so like we
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always performed like did did. Our scenes were always original material.
Some of it would tank, some of it would be like,
oh shit, that's really good. And I've all from the
day one I was like, I think I'm a director,
but I never took I never had the confidence of
going I was so I really wanted to concentrate on
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acting and and but I was always in the director's
chair going like I would do this and this and this,
or maybe what if they did that? And I just
never It's like one of those things. If I was
to do it again as a twenty one year old, like,
I would immediately step in the director's chair and start.
You know, for me, acting classes in any kind of classes,
are the place where you go to make as many
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mistakes as possible. And if you're making mistakes, that means
you're taking risks. And if you learn to take risks
and make as many mistakes in a safe environment. When
you get to a movie like Flame and Hot, where
there's millions of dollars on the line and there's like
a two hundred people watching.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
You, you up, who cares?
Speaker 8 (31:23):
You know, I'm not going to implode because I messed
up a line or I wasn't on the mark or
blah blah blah blah blah. Right, So I've learned to
make those mistakes in a comfortable environment. Now I'm going
in and like, all right, cool, and if it doesn't work,
it doesn't work.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
It's life, you know what I mean. So I don't
know how I got in that tangent, but.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
No. I guess the point is you started, you started
early on knowing you were going to have multiple irons
in the fire. Yeah, it wasn't just one path for you.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And in this business, just beautiful to the diversify.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
And I think if there is the right time for
you to do it, I know it would have been
amazing to do it when you were in your twenties.
I feel the same way. I direct, that's something a
couple of years ago and when why did it? Why
did it take me so long? But this is the
right time for you, Jesse, and and you have become
our superhero, you know, with this platform that you just
got handed, you know, and you did it so beautifully
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that not grab that and freaking run.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Yeah, trust I'm running.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, that's beautiful for you. This January is exciting. So
you don't with that. You showed that already.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Yes, we shot it. I'm also an EP on that
project as well, and I'm yep, that's the goal. I
want to start producing. I sing too, so we're working
on figuring out how to get.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
An album that.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Is also I owed Jesse for giving me the push
to audition for that role. I said no to it
twice why why Yeah, Now, with the understanding that I have,
I was I think I was scared of the undertaking
of I think I wasn't aware that I was feeling pressure,
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like can I do this? This is an icon. This
isn't just like you know, some girl that I'm playing,
like this is Jenny Rivera, like people vee her like
they her fandom is like crazy. And Jesse called me
one day and he was like, hey, are you reading
for Jenny? And I was like no. He's like, all right, bye,
and so I was like what and he doesn't you know,
(33:25):
Jesse's not the guy to be like you should read
for this role and let you know. He's very intentional
when he talks to you. And so then I called
me two weeks later because the gassing director came to
me again and was like, is there a reason you
don't want to read for this? And I'm like, So
I called Jesse and I was like, hey, why did you?
Why'd you? Why are you? What? What's going on? What
are you thinking? And he's like, I don't know. He's like,
it's just written for you. He's like, I've helped a
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couple of my friends read and they're great I know
a lot of great actresses. He's like, but I know
no one else can do this the way that you
would do it, like just read. And I was like, dang.
And I had to like face my own fear, like
you know, we sometimes get our greatness. And I think
doing that when he's and he goes, and I go,
why do you think he's like? Beause he goes? Because
it's going to be the most difficult thing you've ever
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done in your life. And I know you're gonna love
every moment of it. And I was like, damn all right.
And the second I did my first self tape, I
was like, crap, I'm gonna book.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It like.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
It comes like, you know, rising to the occasion, do
the work Annie, And and it was. It was one
of the most excruciating things I've ever done in my
entire life, emotionally, physically, spiritually.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I have two questions.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Did her family gave the other blessing?
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yes? That was one of the constituents on the project,
so I had to that one. I auditioned like five times,
and one of the last things was I had to
meet her her children, you know, Cheeky's and jackiey Joe
and I met all of them and or we're in there.
The first thing that Cheeky said, he goes, well, damn,
you definitely got big tits like my mom was like, oh, well,
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thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And the second question, has she appeared to.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
You, well, I'm good emotional, yeah, a couple times like
she she came in my dreams, and there was a
lot that was blocking me from the role because she
is not a victim, regardless of what she had been through.
She's like, you know, you're not a victim. Show up.
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This is going to help change people. A lot of
her story and what she's been through is a lot
of my story. And it was things that I had
been afraid to articulate because you know, usually women who
are who've gone through domestic violence or sexual abuse tend
to be vilified, especially in Latino communities, like it's our fault,
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what were you doing? What were you wearing?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
You know?
Speaker 7 (35:55):
And it taught me to own myself in a different
way so I can help other women too, like the
way that she did. So she's shown up a lot,
and something specifically was at the premiere. Her sister Rosie
was there and she walks up to me and I
look at her, She's like, hi, I'm and I was like, girl,
I know who you are. And she's like, I just
have to tell you and she starts crying. She's like,
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it's taken us nine years. My sister would always say,
I wonder who's going to blame me. I wonder who's
gonna blame me. She's like, and watching your tape and
getting to meet you, and especially now seeing you on
this carpet, She's like, I am so glad it's you,
and I'm just bawling there, like, oh my god.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
This is.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
I'm so grateful to Jenny and her life and her
spirit and her fight that she had. She introduced me
to a piece of myself that I didn't know I needed.
And I hope that this film brings that to so
many women too.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I know that she's grateful for you. She is she's
grateful for your existence. This is amazing. Yep.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Yeah, I knew she was gonna cry.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm crying because I'm a huge fan of of Jenny
Tuada and I love cheeky Chicky so so awesome, and
and and then and I didn't know you were doing this,
And then I'm reading there a producer's note.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And he's that she Oh my god, I I I
can't believe.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I never thought about like she's the perfect Gennya and
knowing Jenny's history and how strong she is and she
was of a woman, I know she's all over you,
so she is.
Speaker 7 (37:31):
She covered me through that whole sh because Jesse knows
I was calling him every other week, like I don't know,
it was, it was, it was, it was a beast.
But now, yeah, I don't think I would have gotten
through it without her.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Thank you for saying yeah, that's awesome when this has
been incredible. I'm a huge fan of both. I cannot
wait to see all the amazing, yummy stuff that is
coming for you, guys. Congrats on Flaming Hot is just perfect.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Absolutely and Flaming Hot is now streaming on Hulu and
Disney Plus. Don't miss it please. That's awesome. Thanks guys.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
We love you, guys.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Friends, Thank you, thank you, Bye bye, take care of
bye bye.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Awesome love the stories. I love just the path how
everybody gets to where they you know, find the light,
whatever makes them happy. And we had such an amazing
story for both of them to get there to find
it and then what's to come after for both them
is going to be incredible.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Just good people, good people and talented people and and
oh my god, I am so happy. It's awesome as
a Latina to see people thriving and doing so well
and so clear about their path and so clear about
their power and what they're about to encounter and what
they're going to.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Tackle and thrive.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
It makes me. It makes me proud and happy.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
So good for them.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Anyways, make sure you check it out Flaming Hot, streaming, loving,
Thanks for listening, don't forget to write us a review
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He said.
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Speaker 4 (39:15):
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Speaker 5 (39:16):
Bye,