June 12, 2023 • 23 mins
Today’s topics include…a big name celebrity vs. her reputation, Pete Davidson vs. PETA and Ros' sign from God vs. Eric’s. It’s a battle royale…find out who comes out on top!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is he said, A yeah, The Ho with Eric
Winter and Rosalind Fantaz. Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you
doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
When when I status want us not chice? He said, Aja,
the Ho listeners comestan.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You hope they're talking back to I'm sorry what you're saying? Listeners?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah? How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We're good?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Anyways, what's happening mister?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh not too much. Let's see your The nightmare house
came back on the market and done.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't want to I don't want to talk about it,
guys until I have good news.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm not going to talk behind my dream house signed
from God that she never accepts is going.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Away assigned for God from God that is back, so
I should acquire it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Anyways, it's something you should acquire. The sign doesn't land
the way you hope it's going to land.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I mean whatever, I don't want to talk about the
house I.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Can What are you ever going to take God's signs
for what they are, not what you want them to God?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I have a really beautiful relationship with God. We understand
each other. You, I mean we don't understand each other God,
I mean with you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But if God tells you it's not the right time.
Is that the right time?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's you, that's your God telling you that as your god. Anyways,
so hot excited for the actors strike.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're going to be out there picketing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I want to see picket.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Are you're going to pick it?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I mean I went out there already once with again
and with the actors.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I know they said we are fighting for a rights
to party. Is that a song? Right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, we are equivalent.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, guys, we are.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Fighting if actors similar.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I hope we don't. I hope the negotiated negotiations go
well and we don't have to actually strike because I
believe leve Unless actors uniting to the double GGA, to
the double GGA, that's what you call it. Yeah, unless
it's speed things along and move things very fast for
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the studios and networks to come up with a resolution.
I believe that shouting the business until October, November December,
it's going to be brutal. It's going to be brual.
I understand what we're fighting for. It's much needed. Listen.
I am a perfect example. I did a show for
two years, one ten episodes, one thirteen episodes is not
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enough to make a living when they want to hold
you exclusively and you cannot do anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We also when you have to pay to live the
other place, you have to pay for all your own expenses. Like,
there's a lot of things there.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
There's a lot of stuff, and then the whole AI.
I just we just did a podcast that I was
you taught me and our guests confirmed that, Yeah, they
can basically create actors and actresses that don't exist and
make somebody fabulous and talented and and do whole movies
with no no human beings, human beings attached, So we
(03:06):
will be out of work. So there's a lot of
things that need to be negotiated.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
A question I think it's gonna be how you can
evolve someone's I guess they're going to figure it out.
How can you have voices and get the voices.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Just come on with voices?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
How many? I guess it's computer I'm as robot.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But there's a lot of there's a lot of voiceover
actors that don't want to be on camera that they'll
be more than happy, I'm more super pleased to provide
their voices.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
To That's what voiceover acting is already. That's what animation is,
That's what all that is.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So then there's no problem then exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean you're gonna take a human voice and put
it with the AI generated actor.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I don't know. I think human beings are evolving so
far as and things are moving. Is like we're in
the future already. It's like, you know what I keep
thinking about because it's not going to affect us as
much as our great grand kits well be acting. So no,
but no, in terms of like how how things are
evolving in life, like like flying cars, you know me,
(04:00):
Like we're not going to live to experience that, but
our great great grandkids it's going to be a different
universe altogether. Like think about like my grandparents the way
they lived when they invented TV and aviation and all
those things.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
With you, it's like we're massive chains, we're moving. You know.
It's a weird thing that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We're so technologically savvy. This is nothing compared to what
is coming. And it's scary. It's scary years from now
things are going to be even anyway, So you want
to talk about something.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Striking anyway, I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to happen.
I'm sure it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The actors, Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Did you see this thing about Katherine Heigel and Ellen
Pompeo interviewing each other having a conversation. I don't know,
maybe they've been friends still for a while now, but
they were having a very nice conversation talking about what
sort of happened with Catherine. I had worked with her
shortly after all the backlash from Grades Anatomy. She was
awesome with me, Bo, you got along with her great
(04:55):
as well. We had a really good experience and I
did the ugly truth, not difficul both at all, super professional,
super cool like it was just a fun project. But
as you know, people know, she got a lot of
backlash when she spoke out during her time at Grads Anatomy,
pulled herself out of Emmy running, saying that the material
she was given wasn't Emmy worthy and that it should
go to another actor that you know, deserves it more,
(05:19):
And everybody at Grays was extremely furious and then started
saying she was difficult.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Do you agree and do you think it was warranted
for her to get so such a massive backlash for
being honest and truthful to herself. You know how brave
it is for an actress to say, you know what,
even though you think I deserve to be nominated, I
don't think I do because I have not been given
the material. So therefore there are people doing better work,
so let's nominate them. She wasn't saying anything against my
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writers are writing me my write my producers are not
really servicing my character. She was basically saying I didn't
I didn't get the stuff to really deserve a nomination.
You know how brave and awesome that is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I agree. And here's the problem. It goes back to
always this, which is one of the best titles of
a special Chris Rock special, selective outrage. People choose to
get mad when it affects them, So people want actors
that She wasn't talking to anybody, no, but to to
those creators or those writers, or those people they felt attacked.
But the truth is everybody wants to be free to
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have their own voice and have an opinion and and
speak out and have freedom of speech and say you're
a beautiful or until you offend somebody else in power
that decides to take it their way.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Was she known for being problematic, and.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That after I didn't know her until after all that
came out. That all came out after the whole Grace situation.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But was she ever accused of being like, yeah, that
she was.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A problem, that's what they said. But then I can't
imagine the problem was that bad of you know, years
later her and Elean are sitting there talking about it,
And I know she stayed friends with other people on
that on that cast still and and uh, you know,
I don't know. I think a strong actor coming out
with a strong opinion, it's a problem a lot of
people who view themselves as having power above them, you know,
(07:10):
if it offends, but that's a shame it is, unfortunately
because and listen, I don't know the ins and outs
of the workings. What was going on on that show.
I don't know. Maybe there were signs of difficulties perceived
with other people there and her, or maybe her and
the and the producers had other disagreements. But yeah, as
an actor in our business, you're often told to be
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grateful and shut up. You just are you know, you're
supposed to just go at the flow and not have
an opinion. You're very lustying for.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
How come being grateful and having a voice. Why is
this so difficult for people to understand that that's also
a thing and that is also correct. I can be
super grateful and still call out listen this abc D,
this is all wrong. It doesn't mean I'm grateful. I
can love my job. But but if I see some
some polls or that something is lacking content or whatever,
(08:03):
why can't you be entitled to say, I'm going to
raise my hand. I have this observation, Why are you problematic?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Why are you selective outrage? Because at the end of
the day, like we have a strike going on, right,
like the studios could easily say to all the writers
and actors be grateful, shut up, you guys have a
great job. You guys make a lot of money. But
instead everybody wants to have a voice and stand up
for what they believe in is correct, right, which maybe
the other side doesn't agree, so same thing in this situation,
(08:30):
I think a lot of writers would be very happy
that actors could speak up and voice a lot of
strong opinions about studios because it benefits that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So now they're happy if we're vocal. But if if
everything is going their way, and we're vocal there. We
we're problematic.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think it's selected, yes, because people in power don't
like to be questioned. Period. That's the game.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
If you're empower, you're going to be question.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So goes the other way around. Very powerful actors tell
many producers and many writers tell me what to do,
tell me what to do, and they get away with
it because at that point they're the one that's more powerful.
So whoever's more powerful doesn't want to hear from people
of less power, and they don't want to respect their opinions.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh my god, guys. There's a show called The Idol
with the Weekend and.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I try to watch. It feels so contriving, contrived, so hard.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But this is crazy. It's Lily Rose. That's her name,
Lily Rose. Deppe's fantastic Johny Depp's daughter, and the Weekend
and all this hang asiety, all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Phenomenal actress, they all seem to be doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Everybody's doing a great I feel like the show is trying,
so okay, this is this is what's so hard. This
is the point the girl is. She plays like this mega,
mega massive pop star, like let's think Brittany Spears I'm
just naming somebody right, because she's beautiful, she's talented, but
she has a lot of problems mental like the claiming
(10:00):
mental health issues, and she's very dysfunctional but still super successful.
And the whole thing is almost like mockery. Is that
a word of the business, because they introduce all her team, right, manager, publicists, assistant,
executive assistant, all these people that cater to her career
and the way the team is presented. First of all,
(10:22):
every actor plays it brilliantly because it's very specific the
role of each one. But Eric is such a trip
to know how this business enables bad behavior when it
is suitable for them to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Bad behavior makes you money, exactly, it's allowed.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But it's really it's crazy because me.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You can have bad behavior if you have a lot
of power too. But it makes me sick. But that's
the business.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And I was watching this thing and I think I
want to continue watching it because I got severely affected
by it because I was like, how sad that they
get this young, willing, eager girls that all they can
think of is I just want to be a star.
I want to perform, you know, And everybody drings the
kool aid and when they spiral out of control, no
(11:13):
one person says you're wrong, We're gonna stop. Everybody is like,
you're so wonderful, and they just keep blowing some mark
up your ass. When to the point that you feel
like you're invincible, to the point that you are blinded,
that you don't even know what hits you. And that's
why you see them losing control and then everything the
girl goes to a freaking psych word, but the whole
team is moves on for the next one.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So wait, you're obsessed about this show, but you can't
get into my show, Dave. No, Dave is also about
the business and aspiring rapper trying to make it a different.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Times such it is.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I have any of you seen Dave, And let me
tell you the season three finale that was one of
the best finales I've seen of a lot of shows
like that finale was awesome. They had Brad Pitt, they
had Drake, Rachel McAdams. I mean, this show is killing it.
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's what I have to do, Eric, because I like
I like, I love talent. I love talent, so I
love talented people and I like uplifting talent. I feel
like I'm gonna end I should end up being like
a manager. There you go, now, calling I just I
just just to do it a different way.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Has a company with our friend John.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know what, when I retire from SINS Wilmer Wilmer,
I allow me to manage some young talent here.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And see what I can do with it. But still,
you coun I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think I'll go crazy. I don't think I have
the temperament to deal with people that are like record
labels and people that I know. I just don't don't
have the best intentions at heart, and I'm trying to
protect my client. I think I'll be like a few
I don't think I have I don't know how to
play the game that way to play the game. Yeah,
I don't know. No, not interested. I'm not going to
manage anybody.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I manage myself. Speaking of playing the game. What do
you think about Prince Harry and the Spare memoir? And
now I guess stuff he had said in the past
about wanting to meet with Princess Anna's butler. I guess
he can't remember if something he said in the past
conflicts with something he said in the book, and he
sort of played in the fifth saying, I just don't
(13:24):
remember whether I wanted a meeting or not. Do you
think at this point it's getting a lot out of control,
all this sort of public you know, battle that he's
having with the media figuring all this out. What do
you think I feel like it's just getting a little
carried away. I feel like this even with this paparazzi chase,
(13:46):
they were saying in New York where I guess even
the cab driver said, yeah, I mean there was paparazzi,
but it wasn't as as intense as they put it.
I don't want to take away from the fear that
they felt being chased by paparazzi, because maybe it was
very real for them. They live different life than we do,
for sure. But the people around said, yeah, it was happening,
but it wasn't like a high speed crazy, you know chase.
(14:09):
Do you think it's getting a little carried away?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Them two together, the media, just what.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The media is making of everything, and also a lot
of the public battle with the royal family. Does it
need to be public?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, they should be left alone. I think it's enough already.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Both size.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I think the media should just it's not going
to happen. You know that they make money of this.
It's been since the beginning of times, of the existence
of the royal family. It's all about the media, you know,
and they kind of like control each other. It's a business.
It's a business transaction. So as long as they make money,
they're going to continue doing it. I just wish that
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they would just let this to be.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
But shouldn't those two also maybe try to get out
of the spotlight a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Maybe it's never going to happen. It's all he knows,
and it's what she wants, so it's never gonna happen.
But yeah, I don't even know. It's a very it's
it's a very difficult conversation. Eric. We don't know them.
We don't know exactly what goes through their heart and
their mind and their relationship. They might want some privacy
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and peace and just be be left alone, but they
also want to be able to accomplish their passions, which
is he loves philanthropy and she loves acting and the business,
you know what she and she also loves philanthropy because
you know, she's all about helping and giving. But they
also want to produce. So it's it's hard because listen,
if they want to continue and just have normal lives
(15:38):
and just be normal people like you and me, We
want to act, we want to produce, we want to
do all these things right, So to them is that
we just want to be normal, but because of who
they are. But then that normalcy will never come because
whenever they want to produce something or act on something
is going to be all over the world.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Didn't they want to step away from the royal family
and denounce their titles. Isn't that what they wanted, not
the titles.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
We just wanted to just wanted to have a normal life.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Why keep the titles?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
We went through this already. We don't know. Maybe it's
a requirement that you cannot do that. We don't know
if they have decided to consciously keep the titles. What
if they cannot remove the titles from their names, or
you're thinking, they're like, we want nothing to do with you,
but I'm still going to be the sussage open, the
prince of whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Whatever. We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You want to call them and ask them.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I want to know the truth. I want to know
if you can just get rid of the title.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Do we know anybody that knows the we can get
to them? Do you think we can get Megan and
Harry to come do?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He said, I just want to. I feel bad for
them in a lot of ways, right like, I mean,
of course, have compassion living. I do feel bad they're
living in existence that I definitely don't understand it, nor
do I think is a great exchange. Would you like it? No,
to have that kind of celebrity.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Will you ever marry a queen?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
No? I don't care about that kind of celebrity. I don't.
I mean, I guess if you met somebody and you
truly fell in love with the person, that you'll.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Be all over it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
What are you talking about? An you be if?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
No? Not like that? Like if let's say you're mega
Marcle and there's you're like Eric Winter, and there's a
girl that is that is like the next Queen Elizabeth
because the next in line is no, is a girl
and she's in her thirties or whatever. And somebody does
a blind date between you and this girl exactly, and
this girl that might be the next queen and she
(17:22):
happens to be cute, You'll be all over it so stop.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
If she would know if she was a good person
and I was attracted to her, and I was attracted
to her, I don't think I could fault her for
being a queen. I wouldn't be like, you're a queen.
I'm out. It wouldn't be a deal breaker. Of course,
I go down the road. You'll marry that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You'll marry that thing in Harvey, You'll marry.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I wouldn't run from the fact that she's a queen,
but I would, Yeah, you'll run towards it. No, I would.
If I was attracted to her and she was cool,
I go out, I got a date.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I don't know if i'd marry her for that? Will
you do the same? You marry a king, for sure? Exactly?
You get that house? Uh? You want? Exactly? For sure?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
If I like the guy, he's a good guy, of course,
I'd be like, Bobby, what do I have to do?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Wow, that's a cold digger, that's gold digger mentality I deserve.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But just know, I'm going to ask for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But I want to direct in Puerto Rico. You're invited to.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Come to Puerto Rico and adove some straight stray dogs.
I might give him Coco.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well I don't. I don't have a chance. Sorry, I won't.
I won't ever joking.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You're my friends, you're my king. You look like a king.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So it's okay, sure, okay, next topic. Uh, let's talk
about Pete Davis. And this one's interesting. I know you're
probably not gonna think it's interesting. And I like Pete
a lot. Pizza, good dude. So you know Pete. So,
he his family dog died. He needed a specific type
of a dog I guess for hyper hypoallergetic type dog
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because he has allergies and the family does. And he
was trying to help his family out. So he went
and bought a dog quickly after the family pet died,
to take care to help his family feel better about
losing this animal. Unfortunately, to I guess some he bought
a dog from a pet store. Pete went nuts.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm a little split on this, Okay, explain, do explain?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, I just listen. Yeah, if you can rescue a dog, great,
rescue a dog. If that's what makes you happy, do it.
But I also don't like that people have to force
their beliefs onto other people Peter. If you have a mission,
preach your mission, but don't go attack a celebrity to
make it public, to destroy a person for your own gain.
(19:48):
Now I understand Pete got pissed and left them a message,
and he wasn't very kind to the message, and he
regrets it. He said, I wish I could have used
my words a little differently. He owned that. But Peter
needs to come out and say, you know what, We're
going to preach our message. We're going to try and
educate people on what we think is beneficial. But I'm
not going to tell you how to live. I'm not
going to tell you what to do. That's where I
think it's a little bit wacky.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, it's very sensitive for me, Eric, because as you know,
I have worked for Peter. I have a campaign that
I did for Peter. So I don't want to talk
about Peter because I do believe that in many ways
they do incredible work. But I do understand the other
side of the coin, and I yeah, listen, I'm all
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about adopt, don't shop. I'm all about it. But I
will never disrespect or expose or cause anybody a problem
because they have decided to buy something because of whatever reason,
because that's the dog they want, or because because of
hypo allergenic how you say it, reasons, And the truth is,
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like listen, Peter explained, there doesn't exist. There's no such
a thing as a true like a dog that will
create zero allergies. They all shed.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But there's some that are better for you that I know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But my understanding was until not too long ago that
are poodle and there are specific breeds that supposedly they
do not shed at all. Therefore you they will never
give you allergies. I guess that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They can still give your allergies, but you can be
a little less sensitive to some people I know are
very allergic to dogs do better with certain things.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is what I'm gonna say. Yes, I understand Pete.
You don't want to be exposed for something that you're
doing because you want to heal your family because it's
something that is going to make them happy. Right, you
have the right to do whatever you want. But I
also understand Peter by saying, guys, it will be so phenomenal,
so phenomenal if every single person that is going to
acquire a dog adopts a dog. There's a lot of
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dogs in need all over the world.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We both donate to a lot of dog rescues. We're
bold in the support of rescuing dogs, but I also
am in support of not telling people what I understand.
I understand way is the only way, and your way
is the right way.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And a little thing that Petra did which I want.
Let's you know the our listeners. If you want a dog,
if you don't like like this ugly, scruffy, little straight dog,
big and you you crave a specific breed, you want
a German Shepherd, you want a bulldog, you wanna pug,
you wanna labrador, you can there's so many of them.
(22:18):
You go to Petfinder and they have every single dog
available of every single breed. So it should never be
an excuse I just cannot find that the breed that
I want. Do your research and if for real you
cannot find it, then you do what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
By the way, do what you want to do, because
you should be allowed to do what you want and
everybody else educate and learn as much as you can.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, I get it, Okay, thank you, I love you.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Thanks for listening. Don't forget to write us a review
and tell us what you think.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
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Speaker 2 (22:58):
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I
This is he said, A yeah, The Ho with Eric
Winter and Rosalind Fantaz. Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you
doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
When when I status want us not chice? He said, Aja,
the Ho listeners comestan.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You hope they're talking back to I'm sorry what you're saying? Listeners?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah? How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We're good?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Anyways, what's happening mister?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh not too much. Let's see your The nightmare house
came back on the market and done.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't want to I don't want to talk about it,
guys until I have good news.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm not going to talk behind my dream house signed
from God that she never accepts is going.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Away assigned for God from God that is back, so
I should acquire it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Anyways, it's something you should acquire. The sign doesn't land
the way you hope it's going to land.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I mean whatever, I don't want to talk about the
house I.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Can What are you ever going to take God's signs
for what they are, not what you want them to God?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I have a really beautiful relationship with God. We understand
each other. You, I mean we don't understand each other God,
I mean with you.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But if God tells you it's not the right time.
Is that the right time?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's you, that's your God telling you that as your god. Anyways,
so hot excited for the actors strike.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You're going to be out there picketing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I want to see picket.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Are you're going to pick it?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I mean I went out there already once with again
and with the actors.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I know they said we are fighting for a rights
to party. Is that a song? Right? Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
No, we are equivalent.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, guys, we are.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Fighting if actors similar.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I hope we don't. I hope the negotiated negotiations go
well and we don't have to actually strike because I
believe leve Unless actors uniting to the double GGA, to
the double GGA, that's what you call it. Yeah, unless
it's speed things along and move things very fast for
(02:15):
the studios and networks to come up with a resolution.
I believe that shouting the business until October, November December,
it's going to be brutal. It's going to be brual.
I understand what we're fighting for. It's much needed. Listen.
I am a perfect example. I did a show for
two years, one ten episodes, one thirteen episodes is not
(02:35):
enough to make a living when they want to hold
you exclusively and you cannot do anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We also when you have to pay to live the
other place, you have to pay for all your own expenses. Like,
there's a lot of things there.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
There's a lot of stuff, and then the whole AI.
I just we just did a podcast that I was
you taught me and our guests confirmed that, Yeah, they
can basically create actors and actresses that don't exist and
make somebody fabulous and talented and and do whole movies
with no no human beings, human beings attached, So we
(03:06):
will be out of work. So there's a lot of
things that need to be negotiated.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
A question I think it's gonna be how you can
evolve someone's I guess they're going to figure it out.
How can you have voices and get the voices.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Just come on with voices?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
How many? I guess it's computer I'm as robot.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But there's a lot of there's a lot of voiceover
actors that don't want to be on camera that they'll
be more than happy, I'm more super pleased to provide
their voices.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
To That's what voiceover acting is already. That's what animation is,
That's what all that is.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So then there's no problem then exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I mean you're gonna take a human voice and put
it with the AI generated actor.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I don't know. I think human beings are evolving so
far as and things are moving. Is like we're in
the future already. It's like, you know what I keep
thinking about because it's not going to affect us as
much as our great grand kits well be acting. So no,
but no, in terms of like how how things are
evolving in life, like like flying cars, you know me,
(04:00):
Like we're not going to live to experience that, but
our great great grandkids it's going to be a different
universe altogether. Like think about like my grandparents the way
they lived when they invented TV and aviation and all
those things.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
With you, it's like we're massive chains, we're moving. You know.
It's a weird thing that.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
We're so technologically savvy. This is nothing compared to what
is coming. And it's scary. It's scary years from now
things are going to be even anyway, So you want
to talk about something.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Striking anyway, I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to happen.
I'm sure it's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The actors, Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Did you see this thing about Katherine Heigel and Ellen
Pompeo interviewing each other having a conversation. I don't know,
maybe they've been friends still for a while now, but
they were having a very nice conversation talking about what
sort of happened with Catherine. I had worked with her
shortly after all the backlash from Grades Anatomy. She was
awesome with me, Bo, you got along with her great
(04:55):
as well. We had a really good experience and I
did the ugly truth, not difficul both at all, super professional,
super cool like it was just a fun project. But
as you know, people know, she got a lot of
backlash when she spoke out during her time at Grads Anatomy,
pulled herself out of Emmy running, saying that the material
she was given wasn't Emmy worthy and that it should
go to another actor that you know, deserves it more,
(05:19):
And everybody at Grays was extremely furious and then started
saying she was difficult.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Do you agree and do you think it was warranted
for her to get so such a massive backlash for
being honest and truthful to herself. You know how brave
it is for an actress to say, you know what,
even though you think I deserve to be nominated, I
don't think I do because I have not been given
the material. So therefore there are people doing better work,
so let's nominate them. She wasn't saying anything against my
(05:48):
writers are writing me my write my producers are not
really servicing my character. She was basically saying I didn't
I didn't get the stuff to really deserve a nomination.
You know how brave and awesome that is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I agree. And here's the problem. It goes back to
always this, which is one of the best titles of
a special Chris Rock special, selective outrage. People choose to
get mad when it affects them, So people want actors
that She wasn't talking to anybody, no, but to to
those creators or those writers, or those people they felt attacked.
But the truth is everybody wants to be free to
(06:20):
have their own voice and have an opinion and and
speak out and have freedom of speech and say you're
a beautiful or until you offend somebody else in power
that decides to take it their way.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Was she known for being problematic, and.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That after I didn't know her until after all that
came out. That all came out after the whole Grace situation.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But was she ever accused of being like, yeah, that
she was.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A problem, that's what they said. But then I can't
imagine the problem was that bad of you know, years
later her and Elean are sitting there talking about it,
And I know she stayed friends with other people on
that on that cast still and and uh, you know,
I don't know. I think a strong actor coming out
with a strong opinion, it's a problem a lot of
people who view themselves as having power above them, you know,
(07:10):
if it offends, but that's a shame it is, unfortunately
because and listen, I don't know the ins and outs
of the workings. What was going on on that show.
I don't know. Maybe there were signs of difficulties perceived
with other people there and her, or maybe her and
the and the producers had other disagreements. But yeah, as
an actor in our business, you're often told to be
(07:30):
grateful and shut up. You just are you know, you're
supposed to just go at the flow and not have
an opinion. You're very lustying for.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
How come being grateful and having a voice. Why is
this so difficult for people to understand that that's also
a thing and that is also correct. I can be
super grateful and still call out listen this abc D,
this is all wrong. It doesn't mean I'm grateful. I
can love my job. But but if I see some
some polls or that something is lacking content or whatever,
(08:03):
why can't you be entitled to say, I'm going to
raise my hand. I have this observation, Why are you problematic?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Why are you selective outrage? Because at the end of
the day, like we have a strike going on, right,
like the studios could easily say to all the writers
and actors be grateful, shut up, you guys have a
great job. You guys make a lot of money. But
instead everybody wants to have a voice and stand up
for what they believe in is correct, right, which maybe
the other side doesn't agree, so same thing in this situation,
(08:30):
I think a lot of writers would be very happy
that actors could speak up and voice a lot of
strong opinions about studios because it benefits that.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So now they're happy if we're vocal. But if if
everything is going their way, and we're vocal there. We
we're problematic.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I think it's selected, yes, because people in power don't
like to be questioned. Period. That's the game.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
If you're empower, you're going to be question.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So goes the other way around. Very powerful actors tell
many producers and many writers tell me what to do,
tell me what to do, and they get away with
it because at that point they're the one that's more powerful.
So whoever's more powerful doesn't want to hear from people
of less power, and they don't want to respect their opinions.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh my god, guys. There's a show called The Idol
with the Weekend and.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I try to watch. It feels so contriving, contrived, so hard.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But this is crazy. It's Lily Rose. That's her name,
Lily Rose. Deppe's fantastic Johny Depp's daughter, and the Weekend
and all this hang asiety, all.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Phenomenal actress, they all seem to be doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Everybody's doing a great I feel like the show is trying,
so okay, this is this is what's so hard. This
is the point the girl is. She plays like this mega,
mega massive pop star, like let's think Brittany Spears I'm
just naming somebody right, because she's beautiful, she's talented, but
she has a lot of problems mental like the claiming
(10:00):
mental health issues, and she's very dysfunctional but still super successful.
And the whole thing is almost like mockery. Is that
a word of the business, because they introduce all her team, right, manager, publicists, assistant,
executive assistant, all these people that cater to her career
and the way the team is presented. First of all,
(10:22):
every actor plays it brilliantly because it's very specific the
role of each one. But Eric is such a trip
to know how this business enables bad behavior when it
is suitable for them to.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Bad behavior makes you money, exactly, it's allowed.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But it's really it's crazy because me.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You can have bad behavior if you have a lot
of power too. But it makes me sick. But that's
the business.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And I was watching this thing and I think I
want to continue watching it because I got severely affected
by it because I was like, how sad that they
get this young, willing, eager girls that all they can
think of is I just want to be a star.
I want to perform, you know, And everybody drings the
kool aid and when they spiral out of control, no
(11:13):
one person says you're wrong, We're gonna stop. Everybody is like,
you're so wonderful, and they just keep blowing some mark
up your ass. When to the point that you feel
like you're invincible, to the point that you are blinded,
that you don't even know what hits you. And that's
why you see them losing control and then everything the
girl goes to a freaking psych word, but the whole
team is moves on for the next one.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So wait, you're obsessed about this show, but you can't
get into my show, Dave. No, Dave is also about
the business and aspiring rapper trying to make it a different.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Times such it is.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I have any of you seen Dave, And let me
tell you the season three finale that was one of
the best finales I've seen of a lot of shows
like that finale was awesome. They had Brad Pitt, they
had Drake, Rachel McAdams. I mean, this show is killing it.
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's what I have to do, Eric, because I like
I like, I love talent. I love talent, so I
love talented people and I like uplifting talent. I feel
like I'm gonna end I should end up being like
a manager. There you go, now, calling I just I
just just to do it a different way.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Has a company with our friend John.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know what, when I retire from SINS Wilmer Wilmer,
I allow me to manage some young talent here.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And see what I can do with it. But still,
you coun I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think I'll go crazy. I don't think I have
the temperament to deal with people that are like record
labels and people that I know. I just don't don't
have the best intentions at heart, and I'm trying to
protect my client. I think I'll be like a few
I don't think I have I don't know how to
play the game that way to play the game. Yeah,
I don't know. No, not interested. I'm not going to
manage anybody.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I manage myself. Speaking of playing the game. What do
you think about Prince Harry and the Spare memoir? And
now I guess stuff he had said in the past
about wanting to meet with Princess Anna's butler. I guess
he can't remember if something he said in the past
conflicts with something he said in the book, and he
sort of played in the fifth saying, I just don't
(13:24):
remember whether I wanted a meeting or not. Do you
think at this point it's getting a lot out of control,
all this sort of public you know, battle that he's
having with the media figuring all this out. What do
you think I feel like it's just getting a little
carried away. I feel like this even with this paparazzi chase,
(13:46):
they were saying in New York where I guess even
the cab driver said, yeah, I mean there was paparazzi,
but it wasn't as as intense as they put it.
I don't want to take away from the fear that
they felt being chased by paparazzi, because maybe it was
very real for them. They live different life than we do,
for sure. But the people around said, yeah, it was happening,
but it wasn't like a high speed crazy, you know chase.
(14:09):
Do you think it's getting a little carried away?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Them two together, the media, just what.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The media is making of everything, and also a lot
of the public battle with the royal family. Does it
need to be public?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
No, they should be left alone. I think it's enough already.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Both size.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I think the media should just it's not going
to happen. You know that they make money of this.
It's been since the beginning of times, of the existence
of the royal family. It's all about the media, you know,
and they kind of like control each other. It's a business.
It's a business transaction. So as long as they make money,
they're going to continue doing it. I just wish that
(14:49):
they would just let this to be.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
But shouldn't those two also maybe try to get out
of the spotlight a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Maybe it's never going to happen. It's all he knows,
and it's what she wants, so it's never gonna happen.
But yeah, I don't even know. It's a very it's
it's a very difficult conversation. Eric. We don't know them.
We don't know exactly what goes through their heart and
their mind and their relationship. They might want some privacy
(15:16):
and peace and just be be left alone, but they
also want to be able to accomplish their passions, which
is he loves philanthropy and she loves acting and the business,
you know what she and she also loves philanthropy because
you know, she's all about helping and giving. But they
also want to produce. So it's it's hard because listen,
if they want to continue and just have normal lives
(15:38):
and just be normal people like you and me, We
want to act, we want to produce, we want to
do all these things right, So to them is that
we just want to be normal, but because of who
they are. But then that normalcy will never come because
whenever they want to produce something or act on something
is going to be all over the world.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Didn't they want to step away from the royal family
and denounce their titles. Isn't that what they wanted, not
the titles.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
We just wanted to just wanted to have a normal life.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Why keep the titles?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
We went through this already. We don't know. Maybe it's
a requirement that you cannot do that. We don't know
if they have decided to consciously keep the titles. What
if they cannot remove the titles from their names, or
you're thinking, they're like, we want nothing to do with you,
but I'm still going to be the sussage open, the
prince of whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Whatever. We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You want to call them and ask them.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I want to know the truth. I want to know
if you can just get rid of the title.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Do we know anybody that knows the we can get
to them? Do you think we can get Megan and
Harry to come do?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
He said, I just want to. I feel bad for
them in a lot of ways, right like, I mean,
of course, have compassion living. I do feel bad they're
living in existence that I definitely don't understand it, nor
do I think is a great exchange. Would you like it? No,
to have that kind of celebrity.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Will you ever marry a queen?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
No? I don't care about that kind of celebrity. I don't.
I mean, I guess if you met somebody and you
truly fell in love with the person, that you'll.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Be all over it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
What are you talking about? An you be if?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
No? Not like that? Like if let's say you're mega
Marcle and there's you're like Eric Winter, and there's a
girl that is that is like the next Queen Elizabeth
because the next in line is no, is a girl
and she's in her thirties or whatever. And somebody does
a blind date between you and this girl exactly, and
this girl that might be the next queen and she
(17:22):
happens to be cute, You'll be all over it so stop.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
If she would know if she was a good person
and I was attracted to her, and I was attracted
to her, I don't think I could fault her for
being a queen. I wouldn't be like, you're a queen.
I'm out. It wouldn't be a deal breaker. Of course,
I go down the road. You'll marry that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
You'll marry that thing in Harvey, You'll marry.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I wouldn't run from the fact that she's a queen,
but I would, Yeah, you'll run towards it. No, I would.
If I was attracted to her and she was cool,
I go out, I got a date.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
I don't know if i'd marry her for that? Will
you do the same? You marry a king, for sure? Exactly?
You get that house? Uh? You want? Exactly? For sure?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
If I like the guy, he's a good guy, of course,
I'd be like, Bobby, what do I have to do?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Wow, that's a cold digger, that's gold digger mentality I deserve.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But just know, I'm going to ask for the rest
of my life.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But I want to direct in Puerto Rico. You're invited to.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Come to Puerto Rico and adove some straight stray dogs.
I might give him Coco.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well I don't. I don't have a chance. Sorry, I won't.
I won't ever joking.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You're my friends, you're my king. You look like a king.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So it's okay, sure, okay, next topic. Uh, let's talk
about Pete Davis. And this one's interesting. I know you're
probably not gonna think it's interesting. And I like Pete
a lot. Pizza, good dude. So you know Pete. So,
he his family dog died. He needed a specific type
of a dog I guess for hyper hypoallergetic type dog
(18:57):
because he has allergies and the family does. And he
was trying to help his family out. So he went
and bought a dog quickly after the family pet died,
to take care to help his family feel better about
losing this animal. Unfortunately, to I guess some he bought
a dog from a pet store. Pete went nuts.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm a little split on this, Okay, explain, do explain?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, I just listen. Yeah, if you can rescue a dog, great,
rescue a dog. If that's what makes you happy, do it.
But I also don't like that people have to force
their beliefs onto other people Peter. If you have a mission,
preach your mission, but don't go attack a celebrity to
make it public, to destroy a person for your own gain.
(19:48):
Now I understand Pete got pissed and left them a message,
and he wasn't very kind to the message, and he
regrets it. He said, I wish I could have used
my words a little differently. He owned that. But Peter
needs to come out and say, you know what, We're
going to preach our message. We're going to try and
educate people on what we think is beneficial. But I'm
not going to tell you how to live. I'm not
going to tell you what to do. That's where I
think it's a little bit wacky.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, it's very sensitive for me, Eric, because as you know,
I have worked for Peter. I have a campaign that
I did for Peter. So I don't want to talk
about Peter because I do believe that in many ways
they do incredible work. But I do understand the other
side of the coin, and I yeah, listen, I'm all
(20:33):
about adopt, don't shop. I'm all about it. But I
will never disrespect or expose or cause anybody a problem
because they have decided to buy something because of whatever reason,
because that's the dog they want, or because because of
hypo allergenic how you say it, reasons, And the truth is,
(20:54):
like listen, Peter explained, there doesn't exist. There's no such
a thing as a true like a dog that will
create zero allergies. They all shed.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But there's some that are better for you that I know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But my understanding was until not too long ago that
are poodle and there are specific breeds that supposedly they
do not shed at all. Therefore you they will never
give you allergies. I guess that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They can still give your allergies, but you can be
a little less sensitive to some people I know are
very allergic to dogs do better with certain things.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is what I'm gonna say. Yes, I understand Pete.
You don't want to be exposed for something that you're
doing because you want to heal your family because it's
something that is going to make them happy. Right, you
have the right to do whatever you want. But I
also understand Peter by saying, guys, it will be so phenomenal,
so phenomenal if every single person that is going to
acquire a dog adopts a dog. There's a lot of
(21:45):
dogs in need all over the world.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We both donate to a lot of dog rescues. We're
bold in the support of rescuing dogs, but I also
am in support of not telling people what I understand.
I understand way is the only way, and your way
is the right way.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And a little thing that Petra did which I want.
Let's you know the our listeners. If you want a dog,
if you don't like like this ugly, scruffy, little straight dog,
big and you you crave a specific breed, you want
a German Shepherd, you want a bulldog, you wanna pug,
you wanna labrador, you can there's so many of them.
(22:18):
You go to Petfinder and they have every single dog
available of every single breed. So it should never be
an excuse I just cannot find that the breed that
I want. Do your research and if for real you
cannot find it, then you do what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
By the way, do what you want to do, because
you should be allowed to do what you want and
everybody else educate and learn as much as you can.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, I get it, Okay, thank you, I love you.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Thanks for listening. Don't forget to write us a review
and tell us what you think.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
If you want to follow us on Instagram, check us
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iHeartRadio dot com, he said, is part of iHeart Radio's
Mike would do that podcast network.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
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