December 18, 2023 • 57 mins
Kevin Connolly has been working steadily since he was a kid, and he shares some of the best stories we've heard on this podcast so far!
From the ugly leather jacket that launched his career, to the actress that broke his heart, to the movie that made him flee the country but led him to meet the woman he loves! Kevin may have run in the same Hollywood circles that his hit show "Entourage" was based on, but he'll always be that sweet 90s kid from Long Island.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey Dude the nineties called with Christine Taylor and David Lasher.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to Hey Dude the nineties called podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I am David, Hi David, David Lasher, I'm Christine.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
YEA? So good to see you, always so good.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To see you.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I Hey, I wanted I did want to ask you
something because I just got my second shingles shot. Okay,
now do you know about shingles?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I got my first one came in very true to
my character. I didn't follow up on the second one,
so you have to.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But how far when did you get the first one?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was over the summer, same, so.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You're still within the You should get your second one then,
because it's I think it's I think you're funny. That's
what I was going to say. The first one made
me sick. Nobody warned me. I felt like I had
kind of the flu for a day. I did it
over the summer, and I got my second one two
days ago, and they said this one will probably be worse.
And I said, well, I've actually heard the opposite. I've
(01:05):
heard the second one is better. And they said, now,
the first like twenty four to forty eight hours, you
might feel a little. The first twenty four hours I
felt fine, but then last night I started just like
like achy leg aches. But that now I'm fine today,
So I'm done. I'm done with my but my arm.
That's my point is the shot in the arm. It
still kills, like it's really hurts.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It must be better than getting shingles. Yes, I don't
know anyone that's happens.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know the reason I got the reason I even
got it my first one. My mom kept bugging me
about it because she did hers. But you know, but
she said, you should get a shingle shot you're over fifty.
And but during severance last the first season, end of
the first season, one of the actors got shingles. And
she's young, like she's in her late twenty thirties and
(01:56):
she got shingles. They had to shut down production.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So I didn't know people in their twenties or their
got shingles.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I think if you got the chicken pox, or if
you didn't get vaccinated for the chicken pox, you can
get it. You know, we're just a generation.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It comes out.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It can come out as like hives, rash fevery.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I got did you get the chicken pox when you
were a kid.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I did, of course, yeah, of.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Course, yeah, but like our kids never got it because
they had a vaccida vaccine.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, exactly. This is a fun conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Is this great?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Is this great?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Don't you people talk about?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
By the way, thank you for the beautiful wreath. You're
so weesome in our entryway and it smells so beautiful.
It makes our house festive.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, it smells so nice. I know.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I that's my my favorite gift to give, just because
not everybody does Christmas. We do Christmas and Hanukkah, so
we do have a Christmas tree, but not many people do.
But a wreath, you can just get the scent, you
can get the.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's like a fresh, freshly mode lawn.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It smells and it's really nice.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I love it. Thank you and Ben so much.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You're so welcome.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
All right, our guest today we are we both know
this amazing guy from forever ago. Let's should we just
bring in the one and only, the only, Kevin Connolly.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Hello, how are you guys? Kevin for Oh my god,
you do too. It's ridiculous you have not aided in
twenty years.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The craziest story which I was just thinking about before,
because I mean, I've known both of you forever. David
a little longer, but Kevin soon very soon after we finished,
Hey dude, Kevin and I became fast friends. But I
remember David, we were shooting. I don't know what season
it was. I borrowed our makeup artist, car I just
(03:54):
she had a stick shift and she was teaching me
how to drive Stannie and I drove myself to the
movie theater to see Rocky five.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Really, Rocky five, that's going way back.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I mean that is yeh, that's that is nineteen ninety. Yeah,
that was my first yes movie.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is that the Tommy Gun Rocky.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Tommy Gun one? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, it's considered the worst Rocky ever made, but in
the nostalgia world it's sort of aged.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's so bad, but now it's great.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, Kevin, that's why when when we all did a
zoom like during the pandemic for my brother's birthday, I
remember with the.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Mental moving magic tricks not doing that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was a mentalist birthday for my brother and my
son Quinn was on the zoom and he goes, is
that Kevin Gonneley from Rocky five? Because he, of course,
like went back as a child, like he was every
Rocky Rocky movie, and you look exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I know you were a little little recognize Kevin from
Rocky five yees.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Better than the Beverly Hill Village. I guess I would
prefer Beverly.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It is so good to see you, man, Christine. We
go way back to keV you know, I want to
say we had We had David Faustino on the show
a while back talking about Ron Levitt and how much
he loved him, And I just wanted to tell a
story that you and I did a pilot called how
High ninety four right about I don't know, like a
(05:28):
stoner like it was high school, right like where everybody
was stoned a little ahead of its time. Yeah, yeah,
and you and I played best friends, and I think
Denise Richards was in it. We had Jamie Kennedy on
the show also, who said it was his first job.
He was shuffling around the he was the stoner.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
He was like one of the main stoners. He basically
shuffled in a set.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, here's my first time in front of a live
audience too. I was not not a fan. It took
me a second to get used to.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, that show was good, I remember, remember though, This
is the story. Ron Ron called me and said we
got picked up for seven episodes. I'm like great, and
he goes, I told him to go fuck themselves, and
I was like, why would you do that? He's like,
I made the Fox Network, how dare they give me
seven episodes? And I'm like, Ron, you already have You're married,
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with children, money, like the rest of us don't. And
he goes, fuck them and.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I you know, I the story that I had heard
is that, you know, you do the dress rehearsal, you
do a five o'clock show, and then or five thirty
and eight o'clock for the audience for the pilot. Apparently
behind between shows, Ron had told some executive too. I
believe he said, suck my dick or something ridiculous like that.
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So we were dead before we recorded the second show.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And then they tried to work it out.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
But yeah, Ron Ron, who was a great guy, but
he really he felt like he deserved no questions asked
second shot since he made the network. But it's just
not that way, right, even for guys like wrong but
he was the best guy I ever worked for in
my entire life.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The best. Yeah. Well then and then you did a
show with him unhappily ever after for years with Bobcat.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And Christine, you had a front row seat for that one, right,
or really towards.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
The tail end of it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yes, I mean that was the that was like the period.
So what what years was that because I.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Was like taking into.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Late nineties, Yes, late nineties.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And Bobcat incident, the Bobcat and.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Wait Nicky, Nikki and Bobcat.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yes, yeah, Nicki and Bobcat, Nikki Cox and Bobcat.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Go wait to Nikki and I were dad. I was
like heartbroken. I was like my first time ever where
you think.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You're gonna die? Love first love.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Kenn explain for our listeners that the story the Bomb.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Show, so you know where to begin, where to begin?
All right? Well, it was a talking right of the
puppet show, right, I mean like it was.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
It was the father was God lives in the basement
and he starts talking to this puppet and Bobcat go
with was the voice of the puppet. So and Nikki
Klex who played my sister part and I started dating.
But between season four and five. And this is what
the craziest thing is Like. There was like a couple
of days before the table rating for season five and
(08:25):
I'll say it, Jeremy London called to me and said, Kevin,
get in your car.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And because I had lived on Stern.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
In the Valley, there was a seven eleven on the corner.
He said, get in your car, drive down to seven
eleven and open the National Inquirer. This is this is
how far it's going back. Get in the car, drive
up the street. I'm like, not in my stomach stuff,
ripping through the Inquirer and there's a picture.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Of Bob Bobcat and Nikki dating.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And then the next day we're like two days later
I had to go to that table rating and we
had to just just got out twenty four weeks of
of misery.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But that was right around when I.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Met Christine and Brian and I started hanging with that
whole crew. So they were there for uh yeah, my
hair blonde.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know, it was a crisis.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You went through a bit of a crisis, a crisis.
It's also there's nothing worse than for something for you
to find something like that out publicly is horrendous, horrendous, right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And and the guy you're working with, Yeah, that and
and bobcat gold wait to really if you really want
to pile on the bad things.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But I remember my mom said to me to ask
you a question, and I said Church. She said, would
it have been easier if it was Brad Pitt?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And I was like, I don't know. It's a very
very very good question. I don't think it would be great.
I don't think it would be great, but understand, yeah,
or or I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I don't know how I feel about Honestly, either way
it was it was pretty terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But yeah, I was gutted. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep.
It was one of those jobs. So but her and i'
you know, stayed in touch.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Actually over the years we catch up once in a while,
so not much has changed there.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, David, I was saying, because I knew you and
Kevin went back, but we've When I texted Kevin about
coming on, because I just said, you're gonna get I'm sorry,
you just have to do this for me, he read
anything for you, Christine, But I said, the reason is
because I mean, I don't know how many guests we
have had on where your.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Name comes up and so the story Jamie.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We had Sleigh on a couple weeks ago your name
came Like you are so threaded through the nineties through
so many different circles and friend groups.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I had a pretty good role in kid Nineties on Hulu.
You sure did, my friend. God they cut what they caught.
I was like watching it fighting by nail was watching
that thing.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It was that movie was amazing. So they did such
a great job. I only watched it for the first
time the night before our interview, but I was so
proud of her. I mean, really unbelievable document of that
time period.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I know for me it was. It was almost hard
to watch, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, it just so it just just feels like, yeah,
that part of it just it feels like a lifetime ago, right,
but you know.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Bring up so much. Yeah, I was never you know,
I was uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Not in a bad way, but like it was very,
very very nostalgic because there's a lot of our a
lot of people that are that are all in there,
that you know, you might not even know by name,
but that we that we were friends with that either
or that either passed away. So it was just to
see that video footage kind of cleaned up and organized.
Was uh yeah, it wasn't as easy for me to
(11:42):
watch as I as I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Thought of it. Me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, I bet I felt like, you know, having known
so many of you in it, and I always felt like,
you know, I met so let over the years, but
I was like one step removed from that world. But
knew everybody knew, you know, would see people in passing,
so I could parallel clicks. Yes, it was very parallel.
I remember the nights where people are like, oh no,
(12:06):
we're going to Salley, so we're doing you know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Like it was that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I so I could watch it more as a bystander.
But you were you lived it. You lived it, and.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You weren't on you weren't on mushrooms driving through a
daisy forest.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
If so, I was going to say, you not only
lived it, we survived it. Like I saw, you know,
when I saw Balti talking and you know, he and
I went to Hell and back during White Squall, and
and and David as well, talking about how close everyone
came to like complete disaster.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But he really he really.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Landed on his sheep all started. I know, I mean,
it's it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, Christine, let's go back. Ask him how he started acting.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Kevin, let's go back, Let's go back, Long Island boy.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, exactly, New York boy.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
By the way, in my brain I still remember because
you would bring it as a joke to parties. Your
composite headshot, the four shot. Gotta no one is more
classic than your.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Right like fumbling books, right right, right, you got to
hold the baseball. What was your Yeah, then there was
like your cool like leather jack. But my fourth thing
was one where I'm fumbling books.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
The other one was me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
With a literally my head like Danny Zuka or something,
and and like a.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Leather jack, a black leather jacket. And that's like my street. Look,
it's so ridiculous. That's your edge. I've shared that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know back in the day, when I tried to
look edgy, I would wear like a jean jacket with
the collar up, and that was my idea of edgy.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You know, Christine, it's funny you talk about Rocky five,
But my mom was not a stage momb she wouldn't.
But for whatever reason, when I read for Rocky five,
she was hell bent on me wearing this jacket to
this audition. Now I'm fourteen, I'm not sticks anymore, right right,
I'm like, it's never going to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Her and I are literally standing with scream.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
We're screaming at each other in the car, and I go,
you know what, I put the jacket on. I wear
the jacket and it's a ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous leather jacket.
It's like ten years too late, which is what I
was trying to tell her, far out of style.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So I don't wear mind do the audition with this
ridiculous jacket on. Get the movie.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
And then when we're at some point we're on set,
and the producer said to me, and man, when you
walked in there with that leather jacket, everybody else should
have just walked out and went home.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Thanks mom.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I do my reading, my killer reading. Oh god. But
so that was a big movie. That was your first movie. Yeah,
it was a movie. You know, you know it's a
big deal at the time. Honestly, how about this.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I've told people this, whatever else I've done internally, that
was the closest feeling to a career euphoria that I
ever felt right. I know that sounds weird and random,
but it's sure like when I got new that I
got that job, it was just like enormous because I've
been doing commercials for so many years and now it's
like a Rocky movie.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I had like the secret script, Oh my god, to
see I made a very very, very big deal at
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
As a first role. I mean, my son who's now eighteen,
knows every every line to every Rocky movie. I'm not kidding,
like for sure they live on and Yeah, what an
iconic first role. It must have been crazy to get
that as your first movie.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Did you get that? You auditioned for that in New York?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, auditioned in New York, We shot, We shot in Philly, Philly,
shot in Philly. Yeah, yeah, good stuff. Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
All right, so you do that movie. You're fourteen, you're
in high school.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Right, But I'd done a bunch of commercials for that.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Honestly, that was like my main thing because I was
always afraid we didn't We never wanted to move to California.
I was never going to in eighth grade, we were
not moving the family to California. So it wasn't until
I got a little bit older than I started reading
for things that could take me away long term. So
you know, school was not my thing obviously. So when
I was a senior, I happened to do a pilot.
(16:30):
I got a thirteen episode. Older, I'm like, oh, I
wish they were all that easy, right, But so I
moved out here with like a thirteen episode and it
started in like August. So when all of my friends
went to college, I moved out here.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh my god, that's kind of like our hay dude.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, we have similar stories, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
People say, where'd you go to college? I say, Jerry's
Delhi pretty much where I spent my.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
College years, which is no longer something else sad. That
is so sad to me that I would like it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Should be protected by the city.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Literally, it's a historical landmark.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
But yeah, and then and then yeah, and I was
ended up out here, and then there's that weird time
in your life where you're like not old enough to
get into kind of bars, and you know, it's a
weird time for a young person to be.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
On your own and ding the street. I mean from.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
If like, those are things that I think about that
with my daughter, My daughter's twenty one now, and if
she said to me, I'm moving to LA of course
she's a full fledged adult, but I would make sure hard.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
How we did it, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I think ignorance, like my parents ignorance, and like we
were all just a little bit wide eyed of like, yeah,
and I had roommates that sort of fell into place,
so I it wasn't like I read a look for
a place to live. There was always like a person
that I could move in with. But what a like
we were.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, it's funny, you know what ignorance. It sounds bad,
but it's kind of the right word, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I've often said if I knew then what I was
to learn it now, more than likely wouldn't have done it.
So the only thing that got me out here was ignorance.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And like blissful ignorance, right, going on, what's the problem,
That's right, It's so true, It's so true.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Listen. Yeah, we partied hard, you know, Kevin, I actually
just went to Pantera Sarah's fiftieth birthdayside make it?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
How was that was that a blast from the past
or what? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It was great. I don't you know. My wife and
I don't go to clubs, you know, but I had
some friends that were going to be there, so we're like,
all right, we're going.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It was but it was really a club, right, It
was like bar, lounge club.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I have loungee it's called pop on Losienaga. But it
was right near like where the gate was, and like
where we used to you know, and those were the
heydays of the nineties. We would go out and it
was it was like a time warp.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But the other thing too, And again I'm sure you
guys have talked about this, and you know, the social
media aspect of it was we just didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You went on and you hung out and you weren't
worried about.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Tik tok, and right who was following you was just
a you know, of course we sound like our parents
when we say this, but it was a better time,
or or certainly a.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Less complicated time.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
How some of these kids, yeah I could say that
kids because I'll be fifty in a couple of months.
How some of these kids navigated there stronger than I
could have ever been. With the microscope and all the
pressure that comes along with forget about the career part
of it now, for the social I don't think I
would have lasted five seconds.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So all my traps people.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
A little hard on these kids that have a lot
on their plate. What a responsibility to have one hundred
million followers, you know that with that comes responsibility. I
would never want any I never I couldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Trusted with that.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Or if you're if you're an up and coming actor
and you make one wrong move or say one wrong thing,
it's like you could blow yourself up nuts. I remember
the movie which I watched with my wife and my
daughter the other day, The Notebook, And that's the first
time after we had worked together where I was like, wow,
(20:28):
this and the movie holds up and it's so it's
such a classic. How did that movie come about for you? Well?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I had done John Q with Nick Cassavetti's and he
and I, he and I had hit it off and
we were very friendly.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
The ironic thing about The Notebook is, you know, hindsight
is twenty twenty, but at the time.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Nobody knew who Ryan Gosling was.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Right, nobody knew who Rachel McAdams was. I mean, you know,
credit where credit is due to Nick. He went out
and he somehow meant to get that movie greenlit with
two unknowns as as the leads, you know, and and
a lot of people had taken a crack at that.
Spielberg had that for a while, like big, big, big
directors just didn't feel like they could crack it. And
(21:15):
and you know, Nick, Nick got it going, and you know,
and he knocked it out of the bar.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's funny. For me.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I was great because I also was the second unit
little known fact that was the second.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Unit director of the I know this.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Before. Yeah, I've done I've done some stuff I did.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I did uh, I'd done a short film. I got
it a sun Dance, and I was out there. They
needed somebody. But you know the title sequence in the
beginning where the dudes rowing the boat and all the.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Ducks, I I shot all that stuff from the Noble.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, so that's great.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, it was amazing to be out there. And you know,
it's it's different to studio movie. It's not like all right,
that seemed like it was a focus because you gotta move.
It was like, oh no, we'll stay here, do we
get it, Let's take it, Let's do another one. Let's
do another one. So it was nice to work kind
of inside that system.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
This is the reason I know that Kevin, and this
is a little perfect segue into the world. So so
little known fact. Kevin, me my brother Ben, who Matt Levin,
our friend, met.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
David Pressman.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We we we started making like home movies. This all
came from like late nights out We'd come home, nobody
wanted the night to and and we were like, let's
make a movie about this, and we would just take
the video camera and we we started one late night
and we titled it Budget Zero Productions because it was
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started out with zero dollars, started out with zero dollars.
And so we made one with Ben and Kevin, my
brother who's not an actor, but we would always put
him in starring roles in it. And and we made
a surprise one for Ben. And that was when we
used Nick's office, right well, we so.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We started one late night.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
We made it rather ridiculous, which is around somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I gotta see, I gotta.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
See, Yeah, yeah, surprise, surprise, yeah surprise. It's sort of
a sign was maybe a bit. I did a lot
of the music editing.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And Brian's Brian's the star of this.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Brian.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Brian, Yeah, Brian's well, this was this was sort of
a this was sort of maybe an ensemble piece.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
It was, but honestly, like at a certain point, everybody
just there was a certain dare I say, it got
taken a little bit seriously to where even six o'clock
in the morning, when everybody had had way too much
to drink, where like like I think Ben just told
us to stay on our mark like that is like, well,
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if we're going to do it, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We had to go back for reshoots on it to
do we had to do some additional photography, and.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
We had a great we had a great experience. And
then we said, Christine says, hey, Christine, was that was
it Ben's birthday?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It was Ben's birthday. Yeah, but you guys also had
shot one for me first Culminator, which was a surprise
for mine.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Oh no, that was what came after. The guy came after.
So so we're a budget zero. So when now it's
Ben's birthday and we want to Christine says, we want
to do a surprise movie for Ben, get all the
same actions back together, come up with a completely new
script idea but we actually went out like sober during
the day.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And like shot it was a real thing, actually spent
something directed it totally.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Surprise for men. And you were pregnant with Ella.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Pregnant with Ella, like like up in a chair like about.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
To give birth while we were shooting the movie. That
was Ella, right, that was Ella. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So so we we surprised Ben with this with this
five six minute movie. It looks pretty good, but the product,
the production quality had jumped from the one that Ben
had done it five in the morning. So Ben said, oh, okay,
you want to you want to go, you want to
go up to the next level. So now the next
movie Ben does, Oh boy, let's just say there were helicopters.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And Ben's next movie that.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Was a really that was a huge surprise. You guys
had call sheets because there's a hole behind the scenes.
Tom Cruise appears in it. Keefer Sutherland appears in the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Ben went over the top and we said, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You want to think you think you're gonna show me
up with.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
In the sleepy Tom Cruise.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I got to Cruise in the next movie, and you know,
and then and then it just went ballistic.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There was a few of them that were just like
not budget zero.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
But you know, Christine, one of the things that I
always said, like you know that none of those ever.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Got out, that's see and you know.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Why, because it doesn't have to be that way, Like
you're around people that you trust, it can be you
can you know, you can do things like that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And the big fear was always like what just out
of context, it would be like these people are all crazy, you.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Know, and it never ever ever got out because everybody
that had him but that was involved, it was trustworthy,
and it was a tight knit group that could be trusted.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know, actually made You're absolutely right, We made DVDs
like with cases and graphics and upload.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Those to YouTube right now, you get uploaded to get
upload that to YouTube, you know what I mean, It's
it's crazy. So but I always think back about that
when it's like, oh, you know, every boat's going to
have a leak, I'm like, no, it doesn't have to
not every boat has to have a leak.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You know. So they talked to so Ley talked about
that how she had all these all the people she
came up with on video and she locked it away
and literally didn't open it for twenty years and was like,
no one's going to see this footage of my friends
unless it's me asking them to put this out there right.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Well, and not only that, like I never even had
that conversation with Sleet again to go back.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm like, I've known this girl for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I have to believe that whatever is in that movie
is not is I try.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I trust her.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I never even called to ask, right, I don't even
called to ask. I just knew that she would not
do anything to hurt make.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, it all came from love. That came from so
much love and reverence.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You know. I think Leo produced it.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah exactly. Yeah she said they sat down and watched
it together, and yeah he was blown away. Yeah, but
you started directing on your TV shows, which is always
something Christine. I always look back and like, whenever there
was a renegotiator, I should have just been like, I
want to direct an episode because it took me years
to make my first movie.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, Kelly, yeah, did you always want to direct? Because
you know, did you guys both always want a direct or?
Was it just something that sort of being on a
series gave you that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I just think eventually and you start to develop other interests. Right,
It's like I've been doing the same thing since I'm
six years old.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And by the way, acting is easy for me, like
I have I'll take a nap in my trailer. I
don't know, like especially obviously, there's certain things that are
more challenging, but for the most part, you know, even
directing unhappily ever after you know, remember that's you're in
the booth calling out the camera shots, right, So I
would you know, the sound stages are on, the trucks
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are outside the sound stage. I would be in half
the scene, leave and by you know, the second the
second half of the scene, I'd be in the truck
calling calling the shots. So it just for me, it
was just more the insanity of it was.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's great training though, right, yeah, amazing training.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, it was. It was wild. I think I did.
I think I did like six of those, but it
was it was difficult.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
And then and then you know, I did I directed
a couple episodes of Entrage and that was really challenging
and it took certainly took me a second to get
used to remember the first time I did a scene
with Adrian.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
After the scene. He goes, uh, can I talk to you?
I go, yeah, It's like I feel like you're judging
me in the scene. I go, yeah, were the director
in the scene and you're.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Tras over my shoulder and I'm like, oh God.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Like smile Norse, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Like I can feel you judging me. And I was like, yeah,
I think I think I might have been judging you
heavily in that last tank. But you're right, and I
finally got the hangar that you.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Just got to go.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Listen, this is a good this is the top notch crew.
It's in focus, you know, but it took a second
to get into that zone where you didn't want to
in the middle of the sea, like, yeah, rotate him
around on his mark.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
A little bit right there.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
That looks that looks.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Sorry what we said, you know, but you know, listen,
and you know listen, and Christine knows. It's it's ten
times the work, a hundred times the work and what
goes into it. You lose a piece of yourself every
time you direct something because you go so deep, essentially
put every every relationship in your life at risk. You're
(30:09):
just it's all encompassing, you know, so you don't just
do it for I would never do it again unless
I really wanted to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I would never just go, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
You'll direct that. Yeah, it has to be something you
love that you're about, really really.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Really want to do it, because if you're going to
go do it for kicks, you're going to get you're
going to get blown out of the.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Water, especially a film you know that could take that
could be two years of your life.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Right, and then you go, okay, what and at the
end of the day, you know, so few, so few
of them now right, I mean now it's like, how
do you get eyeballs on these things?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
There's so many. I don't know, there's so many. I
don't know if it's a good thing or a bad day.
What do you guys think? How do you feel about.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Streaming from the viewer standpoint? Greatest thing because from a
you know, from the person who is looking for content
or you know what I mean. And but I miss
going to the theater, like I love a theater experience.
I love when something comes out and it's a theater,
like you know, Mission Impossible over the summer, like those
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kinds of movies where you just really but even if
it's a little movie and it's playing somewhere in New York.
You know, just some of those cool theaters have shut down,
even that would show the indie like the Lincoln, you know,
Plaza or whatever that would do the indie movies and stuff.
So I miss that. I don't love you know what
I mean, I miss that so much. I mean, I
think as an actor, you know, certainly having just gone
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through the whole strike, but I mean, it just felt,
you know, listen, everybody would say, oh, there's so many
more platforms, there's so many more jobs. It's like being
an actor is hard. It's not like everybody's getting so
much more work because in fact, most of the movie
stars have moved to strending platforms and television, which makes
even more challenging.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, the work that's been done in streaming even television
going back ten years, you know, from Breaking Bad all
the way to like Severance, you know, these are like
these are as cinematics as any film I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Right right, Well, that's the thing too.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
And you know, let's let's face it. You know, when
we grew up, our TVs were whatever. You know, it's like,
you know, there's something to be said for I'll look
at a movie, go oh, that looks really cool. I
can't wait to lay in bed and watch it on
my eighty five minute TV.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'm not going to the grove nowhere. No, there's a
battle through that traffic.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Park and all of it. Get there to half hour early,
all of it.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Two hundred two hundred bucks to walk in the door.
You're like, where are we went to the opera?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you need a babysitter right now?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
As a new dad, I can't wait, not even new anymore.
It feels like a minute ago to me.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I know, but I'm trying to push long form on her.
I really, really, really trying to get her to go for.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
The long form.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I can't wait for the day where I can say, hey,
do you want to go to the movies and she's like, yes,
I want to see I don't care what it is.
She wants to go and sit there for two hours
and watch I'll watch whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I can't wait. She's not there yet. Yeah, but I'm
trying to. I'm trying to. I'm really pushing this frozen thing.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I wanted to get the concept of like, listen, you
gotta let the story's en fold. There's not going to
be a bunch of stuff happening in the beginning. You know,
she's not there yet, right.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
No, no, No, that takes a little time.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Untill the princesses are running around.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
She's like bored with the opening title se place, you know,
So it'll.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It will come, it will come. I can't wait, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Let's go back to first of all, how did Entourage
come about? And you guys all seem and I know
obviously over the course of the show, but was that
just a regular audition or did you have the inside
track on that job, like, you know, because you all
seem like besties.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
You want to hear you want to hear something again
the same thing, right, hindsight is twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
That was that was a pilot, right, but you know,
we know how that goes. I've done a lot of pilots.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
It doesn't necessarily mean that that pilot is going to
get picked up, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So but in fact, I'm officially a pilot killer. I've decided.
I heard that expression with someone recently and they said, no,
I'm a pilot killer. Everybody was like, oh my god,
I'm a pilot Killer, right, Yes, I am. I have
more weight, probably ten pilots that never got picked up.
Like I'm the desk of a serial.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I'm on the cost something. It's something to look at. Something,
it's something to look at. So after the Notebook, I
was going to.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Direct the movie Alpha Dog, okay, which Nick Cassavetti's ended
up doing.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And you know, you know, Nick and I had just we.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Just had butted heads whatever whatever it was. But long
story short, I got the end of it.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I just said. Nick was like, you know I'm doing
I'm going to and I was like, you know what,
go ahead, directed, I'm going to do this pilot, you know.
And the pilot was Entourage. Wait, Nick who tired me?
Nick Caves?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
But I wrote that script of them we developed in
and like came down to the you know, he came
down to it and he just took it over and
I was.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Like, all right, I'm going to do this pilot.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And it was just an entage was just something you
had like just had on show for you just don't
know they.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Had they had been they you know, they're these guys
Will and and last year like yeah, Conley said he
was retired from Magnet.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's like, no, no, I never said. First of all,
I never said I was retired from He's like the
guy retires thirty years old. Guy retires from that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh that's a good that's a good dog.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Allen and Press committed to doing this movie. Like what
was I supposed to do? Turn around and tell.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Mick like, hey man, sorry, I'm going to a pilot.
You know. So I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I was, but they were. They really wanted me to
come in and finally Wahlberg was like I would. I'm
asking you as a favor to go in and sit
with Doug and.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Just just talk to him.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
So I did that, and you know, and you were
so perfect for that role. I remember that Christine Doug
is one of my oldest friends. We were roommates here.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, yeah, so I remember when he wrote in he
was casting it, and I remember sitting with Jeremy Piven.
He was excited about him. But Kevin Connolly was so
much this character, right.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And you had not not an authorage, but you had
a close group of friends that were all coming up together.
You kind of lived there.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I understood the world to a certain to a certain extent.
But you know, it's funny because different because as its
really was Mark's world.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I just had I even had a reference for Mark's
world because Christine's to your point, like we ran in
parallel circles.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
We would sit at different tape. Mark and his friends
would come in and sit at one table and we
would be at the other table.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
But we always felt cheap because we knew that they
would nobody would ever let them anybody funck with us.
I'll be like I won a good Wolburg and these guys,
no one's getting made out. We were always under their protection.
You know, they're a little rougher, a little rough around
the edges. But yeah, I was, uh you know, yeah,
no I was. You know, I knew them, I knew Mark,
(37:14):
you know, I knew all those guys, so you know,
I was. I was right for the role because initially
they wanted they was like it was like the very edgy,
like tough guy, and it's like, listen, I don't know
if we're gonna have much of a show. If the
show was like you guys coming in and beating everybody
up at the bar, like we had to try to
make them like likeable.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Character, right right? Did you wear your leather jacket for that?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I do not wear my leather yetet you remember, I
was like, so, I was like, and then I said
that Doug asked Doug about this last I said that Doug,
I was like, you know what, now it's too built up.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Now I don't want to read.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I felt that way, like at that point, I was like,
you can't just get me be.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Your hall for I was like, wait, wait, they all
begged you to do the show and then wanted you
to then audition, so.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
They just wanted to hear me shay there like yeah,
like I just I just have to hear you say.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I was like, eh, I don't know, man, Now it's
so built up. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I finally, because I also have had, you know, bad anxiety,
like I'm either I can either auditioning.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's terrible for me.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But I remember sitting in the car and my agent
was like, Kevin, listen, in fifteen minutes, you're going to
be back in your car driving home and you're never
gonna have to talk to any of those people ever.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Again, that's good advice.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, and that well he was wrong, But yeah, but
that was you know, I'm gonna go in and I'm
just gonna read it.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna give you my best.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right, detach yourself from the result and just correct.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And plus it's like people in there that you know,
and like a couple of more friends were in there.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
But what that's But what what a life change?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Like?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Listen, you had worked so much, you were so like.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
You, people knew who you were, you had a name
for yourself, but that that job at that moment in time.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
How old were you at that point? Are thirty thirty one?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I was gonna say, like twenty nine thirty like you were, Like, it's.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Just for everybody, but for everybody, like listen, it's just
sometimes it's just what's meant to be is meant to
be right, you know, Like I tell, I tell the story.
So you know, I had a really, really, really bad
experience for the Gatti movie. Right from top to bottom. Honestly,
it's broke me. It's the worst thing I've ever been
through in my professional all of it, all of it,
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just top to bottom, just absolutely broke me. And it
just kept getting worse and worse, and then like as
they were getting ready to let it out, I knew
what was going to happen. And my agent was like,
I was like, you know, there there's a show and
uh called The Oath shoots in Puerto Rico. It's a
cop show. It's sony blah blah. I'm like, yeah, I
love to jump on that.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
So out of the country, just get town.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Went to Puerto Rico for three months and I met
my now partner and baby mama, Like you know, yeah,
So I had to go through that to find her.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Because of that, and it's.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Crazy to think that I would have to do it
all over again to land it in the same spot.
So in a time where you think like I can't
believe this, it lick quite literally. I was fleeing the country,
don't to like let the dust settle, and I met
my future wife and mother of my baby and amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It's the sliding doors aspect of life that is so crazy.
If you had decided to continue with the Nick movie
and direct it and said no to entrage, you'd be
looking back over.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Like what I do or who or who knows?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Or who knows?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Of course, yeah, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
You just don't know, but you can never You have
to wait long term to see how some of these
decisions will play themselves out.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I guess you know.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Listen, I was, I was along for the Entourage ride.
I remember going to those premieres. It hit so hard.
I mean, not like a network show where you got
twenty million viewers, but it was in the zeitgeist more
than anything I'd ever seen.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
You know, it was it was fun too.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I mean, and listen, anytime you get to shoot in La,
we're at a different restaurant, like we're shooting shooting an
earth cafe, Like, oh, I only even need to put
my car in gear.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I'll just rolled down the hill there. Different. I mean,
you know, there will never be a better experience.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
You know, you could go on and have creative things,
and but in terms of that time and that age
being on that show, I don't see how it.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Could have how it could have been any better. It
just just flew by, you know. It's funny. Just got
a text message.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
From Adrian and he's got as get in bed, stretched out,
he's got to stay.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I'm like, what it was wrong? He's like, oh, it's
a cavity.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
But he's I guess he's getting he's getting dead to
work done, but it's it's the twenty year anniversary this year.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
No, wow.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, So we want to, you know, we want to
try to, you know, get back together. Do what we
can do, get everybody back together. You know it's hard
because you know it goes man more than anything. Just
life gets in the way. Yes, it's just not like, oh,
how closely you I'm well as close as a fifty
year old man with a baby can be to another
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middle aged man that lives in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I will tell you this though. I have a question
for you from my nephew, Ethan Ethan Bate, who's a
sophomore at University Wisconsin at Madison. And when I gone
to New York and I was working there, I sleep
in his bed because he's at away at college. He's
a giant Entthorage poster just hanging. I go to sleep
to your and he and his college buddies live for
(42:33):
the show, right, nineteen year old college students.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, I think that's a pandemic thing. Maybe it came
back doring people being shut in and yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah people, I don't know how old are you? You know, yeah,
I know a second. If they ever released that on Netflix,
it'll be well, it would explode on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
He wanted me to ask you that the camaraderie, the
French it between the fo you uh, seemed so real.
Were you guys very close during the filming of the show,
and are you guys still tight to this day? That's
what I'm.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Absolutely you know, I mean, and you know, you got
to remember all of us were I mean, Kevin Dellen
had done done a bunch of bunch of stuff, but we.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Were standing behind you and he's been standing there the
whole interview.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
He's not moving.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Ut had been had been done a ton of work.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Right, But we were all experiencing this rapid wave of
like success success, right, And and it was so we
have this sort of weird bond, like we have this
kind of bond because we went through something sort of
extreme together, you know, like I can remember Agent saying,
I remember calling Agent inviting him to this club and
(43:54):
I was like, he's like, well, it's like how do
I get in?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
I said, you walk walk right up and say that
you want to command like.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Idea?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, all right, And then he comes and He's like, yeah,
I work, Yeah, I walked up, let me let me
write it. Just those kinds of things we all kind of,
you know.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
And Dylan had been a little bit older and tells
a great story about when they were doing Platoon, Tom
Barrett gather it ever, gathered everybody together and he said, hey,
you want you guys to all look around and smell
the roses because this is special and they're not all
going to be like this, so enjoy every second of it.
And Kevin Dylan said that to us like early on
in season one, you know, so I had to have
(44:36):
Kevin's you know. Kevin was always you know, kind of
a quiet sort of leader.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
But yeah, we we got along. We got along well.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
And there was never ever any competition between any of
us ever, which is the other. We always stuck together
in negotiations. So everybody made the same amount of money.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
And you all had well developed characters, so you all
had your own material.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Doug was great about making sure that everybody had there.
You were never worried about like where your character you were.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You would all have something.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Everybody was going to get there at bats and you know,
it was, it was, it was, It was great.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I mean, you know, we did eight seasons in a movie,
you know, so crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
We we interviewed a couple of the cast members of
nine O two one O, and they all talk about
that as well as like no matter, like when you
collectively as a cast go through something that huge together,
you are forever bonded. Like they will. Whether they've had
(45:39):
you know, arguments or fights or in and out, it
doesn't matter. Their their family forever, and will show up
for any one of them, will show up for the
other one because they've just experienced something no one could
understand and they're the ones doing it.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, there's only there's only a certain thing that the
only the three of them understand.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I mean, tivid Is.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Is all.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Guys, a right eccentric as an absolute animal.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
He's eccentric.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
No, and and by the way, I always, you know,
I always I always got along with hivid PIVN. You know, listen,
man guy won three Emmys in a row. He pitched,
He pitched a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You know, he was We.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Talked about a character being perfect, a character class.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, well he needed a little extra time to like
look at his many sides.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
He get into character. I was all I was always
there for it.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
I always thought, you know, that was a separate experience
onto itself, but watching him do that was was special
as well. And he's he's a little nutty, but he's
a good actor man, and he and he carried us.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He's good is walking and talking and dialogue. This rapid
fire dialogue was so intense. I mean, I know, like
Julian was in a phenomenal director and Doug did such
a great job. But he brought this thing to life
that you know, you do a take and it's like
and you're walking through the office, He's doing a million
different actions. It's really not many people could do that.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah, no, it was. There was a there was a
lot going on.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
But and you know, also, like you said, Doug and
quite frankly, the crew, you know, like you don't just
move around like that right totally without people that know
what they're doing. You know, that show is very heavily
prepped and a lot of work when into that. So
there's ninety six episodes. Like I said, I hope it hits.
I wanted to hit Netflix.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
By the way, it's talking about what does that mean
for streaming money? What's that looks like? What's this new contract?
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Looks like yeah, it looks like, yeah, I think you
get a penny per hour stream.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
I was gonna say, I shouldn't, I should hold off
on purchasing.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
A new object or a new item.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Talk about your podcast. Are you guys still this your podcast?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, no, you have a whole company, right, Action Park Yeah,
so so it's a yeah, it's a it's a it's a.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Network of podcasts. Right.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
So the idea really comes from being able to get
a jump on IP. Right, So it's so hard to
if you pick up a book at the bookstore and
you go, this is amazing. Believe me, that book got
optioned before it was a book, it was.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Just it was an idea. It was an idea. It's hard.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
It's hard to exactly somebody buys it when it's an idea.
So it's really hard to get your hands. So podcast
was the cheapest way to kind of create sort of
content that you could kind of go out and this.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Is your platforms. It is called what Action Park Media?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Action Park Media. But then Victory VI under that umbrella.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Okay, yeah, so we have a bunch of stuff under
the umbrella. But you know, it's like even that has.
When we first started, this wasn't necessary, the zoom part. Right.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Now you have to have a video complonent. You have
to have it, you know what I mean. It used
to be, well, you're.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Just talking to the mic and cut the audio together
and you throw it up there. Now you need it
for the So it's like it just keeps evolving and create.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
It gets crazier and crazier, and I.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
You know, I know this is the obvious, but the
AI of it, guys, right, everybody's got to work.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Everybody's got to work.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Yeah, I mean, this thing cuts AI cuts social clips, Like,
how did they know?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
How would they know? How could that computer know to
cut that? It's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Really AI will figure out what so what clip will
resonate most.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
So we could we could take this episode. You could
run it through an AI thing and.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
They'll suggest clips.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
No way, yes, they'll set they'll they'll suggest and they
will make them and they will give you your description
and they will do all that.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Stuff like that. It's interesting. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Why don't we have Kevin edited this episode and let's see.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Well, I tell people to listen, you have to learn
how to start making the AI work for you, right eating,
Like use it because you'll be better at whatever it
is that you're doing if you're using the AI, whatever
whatever it is that you're doing, you know you have
to use the AI.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
It's not there's there's a I think the fear of
it that people have of like oh I don't want it,
but then there's just the reality that it's all it's
it's we're so far there already, like it's more than
we could ever know.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
I fear it too. That said, I'm going to be
I'm going to be using it.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Because yes, I want to have my head in the sand.
But otherwise, like lean in and start to use it.
To to start, I mean, yeah, I think like you.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Guys have chat EPT chat.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I don't, but I don't. But we've tried it, like
we've done it for fun, you stupid things.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
You should get it. Your chat gypt will know. You
understand that. So if I I talk to my chat
ept like it's my therapist seriously, but now my CHATCHYPT knows.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
So if I have a question.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
About the company, I don't have to anymore and say Hi,
so I have this company it's called this and that. No,
so when I say, hey, do you think this is
a good idea?
Speaker 3 (51:09):
It knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Oh my god. It's like having a personal advisor who's
smarter than anyone you've ever met, just right with you.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yea. And and I also say please and thank you
to my good for you.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
See your mom taught you well, No.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
No, no, that's not why. I think it's just better
to be polite.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
To the old day, and I think it's better to
be polite in general. But it makes me scared, is like,
I mean I don't have scared, well kind of, but
also like like I guess not me personally, but I
look at like these these messages that go out to
the school kids and it's like we will know if
(51:49):
you but lat like now for paperwriting, college applications, you know,
there's it's like how much will kids lean in and
cheat and all of it, which you know, part of it.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Is to do.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
It's just now a new it's a new it's a
new sort of calibration of it.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I have people here that couldn't put string two sentences together,
and all of a sudden they're like handy, mean you're.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
Like, oh, chatchy, this one you didn't even close to
write it. You typed it in and then it wrote
it out for.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
You know, the person's intelligence levels.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Now you're now you're Shakespeare, right, I see that all
the time. Yeah, wild, I mean I actually take great
pride in going that person chat gypt.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
That that little summary right there. I mean, it's so
awesome you spin in there, try to add lingo.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
But yeah, oh we got to get this, Christine. We
got to have our own personal.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Uh, I got to get personal.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I love that Kevin's polite to the thing because it
could be like hal in two thousand and one, all
of a sudden he's like, I can't do that, Kevin.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Well you've been you just spent a jerk for all
these years. To me, it's the same bad things to me,
you know, takes two seconds, sorry, please and thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I like to be nice to my there's a movie
idea like a personal AI that goes rogue, like a
modern day two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
I'm's fifty of those, right.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Like we said, it's already been bought. That was just
your idea, that was birth here, David, It's already been bought,
and it's twelve versions of that and turn around, right, now, oh, Kevin,
we have to start to wrap up because we got
to let you go and I could do this forever
with you. And I want to give you a giant
(53:37):
bear hugg in person because I miss you so much.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
The other time, you guys want to, yeah you need
a guest, got a wholda call me up. I'm going
to jump on as advice.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
It is great yea, thank you very much and so much.
You guys ever need anything for me, let me You're
the bestest.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Okay, I just love him so much.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
That went so fast, so fast, right, we had so
much to talk about. But yeah, he's just always been
such an amazing.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Guy and he's just real. He salts of the earth.
He's so charismatic. I mean, I do remember like that
period of time where he was tortured by this breakup
and it was horrible by wait, by what by the breakup,
by the history that public the Nikki breakup, and it
was he was and also you know, he talked a
(54:37):
little bit about Entourage and how the characters were written
pretty rough around the edges, and Kevin was always like
he was ready to get into it with someone if
they if I want to like the bars you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
And he is the toughest, one of the toughest. I know,
he's not scared of anyone. No, and wait, what was
the story? The Nikky story is that he was doing
a show with playing his sister.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
And they worked together.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Bobby had gold places, did the did the voice of
the puppet.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes, they all worked on the show together, and Nicky
and Kevin were dating and he Kevin found out that
Nicky was essentially dating Bobcat. But it obviously was a
summer thing that happened and she was probably waiting to
tell him, but the paparazzi caught a shot. It was
just horrible, awful, awful for him. But he's just really
(55:35):
like just one of the dearest, Like when I tell you,
and we talked about those home movies and I know
my brother's listening to this. He listens to every single
one of them. And Brian knows, like we have this collection.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
You said, Brian's not an actor, but he has movie
star good looks. He's always had.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Oh, Brian, listen to that. That's for you, Brian the best.
But yeah, we we try to watch those movies like
once every year or two. We pulled them out and
watch it and it's just like a trip down memory
lane and uh yeah one of maybe maybe i'll show
you on one day David.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yes, I had no idea he and Ben were competing
to make better.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Well, it's so funny because I had no idea that
was their the dynamic. But Kevin obviously felt that's like,
all right, we're going into we're doing a budget, now,
a budget.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
I got Tom Cruise coming in helicopters. Kevin is actor, director, entrepreneurial. Uh,
just an impressive guy and a sweetheart of a guy.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, so great. All right, Well that's gonna do it
for us, and we will have maybe a little a
little surprise holiday episode coming up.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Maybe, I hope, So, I hope we can book this. Yeah,
it's in the works.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
A little fun because normally most podcasts don't do a
holiday like Over the Holidays, don't record. But we're gonna
we might have some fun holiday themed right.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
If it works out, it'll If not, you'll just.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Get to hear us wishing you a happy holiday next teme.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
No, we're going to get these people. It's gonna smiles
on a lot of faces. So thank you for listening.
Have a great week leading up to the holidays. Yes,
bye bye everybody.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and give us
five stars.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
And please follow us on Instagram at Hey Dude. The
nineties called see you next time.
Hey Dude the nineties called with Christine Taylor and David Lasher.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to Hey Dude the nineties called podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I am David, Hi David, David Lasher, I'm Christine.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
YEA? So good to see you, always so good.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To see you.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I Hey, I wanted I did want to ask you
something because I just got my second shingles shot. Okay,
now do you know about shingles?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I got my first one came in very true to
my character. I didn't follow up on the second one,
so you have to.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But how far when did you get the first one?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was over the summer, same, so.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You're still within the You should get your second one then,
because it's I think it's I think you're funny. That's
what I was going to say. The first one made
me sick. Nobody warned me. I felt like I had
kind of the flu for a day. I did it
over the summer, and I got my second one two
days ago, and they said this one will probably be worse.
And I said, well, I've actually heard the opposite. I've
(01:05):
heard the second one is better. And they said, now,
the first like twenty four to forty eight hours, you
might feel a little. The first twenty four hours I
felt fine, but then last night I started just like
like achy leg aches. But that now I'm fine today,
So I'm done. I'm done with my but my arm.
That's my point is the shot in the arm. It
still kills, like it's really hurts.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It must be better than getting shingles. Yes, I don't
know anyone that's happens.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You know the reason I got the reason I even
got it my first one. My mom kept bugging me
about it because she did hers. But you know, but
she said, you should get a shingle shot you're over fifty.
And but during severance last the first season, end of
the first season, one of the actors got shingles. And
she's young, like she's in her late twenty thirties and
(01:56):
she got shingles. They had to shut down production.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So I didn't know people in their twenties or their
got shingles.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I think if you got the chicken pox, or if
you didn't get vaccinated for the chicken pox, you can
get it. You know, we're just a generation.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It comes out.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It can come out as like hives, rash fevery.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I got did you get the chicken pox when you
were a kid.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I did, of course, yeah, of.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Course, yeah, but like our kids never got it because
they had a vaccida vaccine.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, exactly. This is a fun conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Is this great?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Is this great?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Don't you people talk about?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
By the way, thank you for the beautiful wreath. You're
so weesome in our entryway and it smells so beautiful.
It makes our house festive.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, it smells so nice. I know.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I that's my my favorite gift to give, just because
not everybody does Christmas. We do Christmas and Hanukkah, so
we do have a Christmas tree, but not many people do.
But a wreath, you can just get the scent, you
can get the.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's like a fresh, freshly mode lawn.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
It smells and it's really nice.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I love it. Thank you and Ben so much.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
You're so welcome.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
All right, our guest today we are we both know
this amazing guy from forever ago. Let's should we just
bring in the one and only, the only, Kevin Connolly.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Hello, how are you guys? Kevin for Oh my god,
you do too. It's ridiculous you have not aided in
twenty years.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The craziest story which I was just thinking about before,
because I mean, I've known both of you forever. David
a little longer, but Kevin soon very soon after we finished,
Hey dude, Kevin and I became fast friends. But I
remember David, we were shooting. I don't know what season
it was. I borrowed our makeup artist, car I just
(03:54):
she had a stick shift and she was teaching me
how to drive Stannie and I drove myself to the
movie theater to see Rocky five.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Really, Rocky five, that's going way back.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I mean that is yeh, that's that is nineteen ninety. Yeah,
that was my first yes movie.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is that the Tommy Gun Rocky.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Tommy Gun one? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, it's considered the worst Rocky ever made, but in
the nostalgia world it's sort of aged.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's so bad, but now it's great.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, Kevin, that's why when when we all did a
zoom like during the pandemic for my brother's birthday, I
remember with the.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Mental moving magic tricks not doing that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It was a mentalist birthday for my brother and my
son Quinn was on the zoom and he goes, is
that Kevin Gonneley from Rocky five? Because he, of course,
like went back as a child, like he was every
Rocky Rocky movie, and you look exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I know you were a little little recognize Kevin from
Rocky five yees.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Better than the Beverly Hill Village. I guess I would
prefer Beverly.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It is so good to see you, man, Christine. We
go way back to keV you know, I want to
say we had We had David Faustino on the show
a while back talking about Ron Levitt and how much
he loved him, And I just wanted to tell a
story that you and I did a pilot called how
High ninety four right about I don't know, like a
(05:28):
stoner like it was high school, right like where everybody
was stoned a little ahead of its time. Yeah, yeah,
and you and I played best friends, and I think
Denise Richards was in it. We had Jamie Kennedy on
the show also, who said it was his first job.
He was shuffling around the he was the stoner.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
He was like one of the main stoners. He basically
shuffled in a set.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, here's my first time in front of a live
audience too. I was not not a fan. It took
me a second to get used to.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, that show was good, I remember, remember though, This
is the story. Ron Ron called me and said we
got picked up for seven episodes. I'm like great, and
he goes, I told him to go fuck themselves, and
I was like, why would you do that? He's like,
I made the Fox Network, how dare they give me
seven episodes? And I'm like, Ron, you already have You're married,
(06:19):
with children, money, like the rest of us don't. And
he goes, fuck them and.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I you know, I the story that I had heard
is that, you know, you do the dress rehearsal, you
do a five o'clock show, and then or five thirty
and eight o'clock for the audience for the pilot. Apparently
behind between shows, Ron had told some executive too. I
believe he said, suck my dick or something ridiculous like that.
(06:46):
So we were dead before we recorded the second show.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And then they tried to work it out.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
But yeah, Ron Ron, who was a great guy, but
he really he felt like he deserved no questions asked
second shot since he made the network. But it's just
not that way, right, even for guys like wrong but
he was the best guy I ever worked for in
my entire life.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The best. Yeah. Well then and then you did a
show with him unhappily ever after for years with Bobcat.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And Christine, you had a front row seat for that one, right,
or really towards.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
The tail end of it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yes, I mean that was the that was like the period.
So what what years was that because I.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Was like taking into.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Late nineties, Yes, late nineties.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And Bobcat incident, the Bobcat and.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Wait Nicky, Nikki and Bobcat.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yes, yeah, Nicki and Bobcat, Nikki Cox and Bobcat.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Go wait to Nikki and I were dad. I was
like heartbroken. I was like my first time ever where
you think.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
You're gonna die? Love first love.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Kenn explain for our listeners that the story the Bomb.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Show, so you know where to begin, where to begin?
All right? Well, it was a talking right of the
puppet show, right, I mean like it was.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
It was the father was God lives in the basement
and he starts talking to this puppet and Bobcat go
with was the voice of the puppet. So and Nikki
Klex who played my sister part and I started dating.
But between season four and five. And this is what
the craziest thing is Like. There was like a couple
of days before the table rating for season five and
(08:25):
I'll say it, Jeremy London called to me and said, Kevin,
get in your car.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And because I had lived on Stern.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
In the Valley, there was a seven eleven on the corner.
He said, get in your car, drive down to seven
eleven and open the National Inquirer. This is this is
how far it's going back. Get in the car, drive
up the street. I'm like, not in my stomach stuff,
ripping through the Inquirer and there's a picture.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Of Bob Bobcat and Nikki dating.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And then the next day we're like two days later
I had to go to that table rating and we
had to just just got out twenty four weeks of
of misery.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But that was right around when I.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Met Christine and Brian and I started hanging with that
whole crew. So they were there for uh yeah, my
hair blonde.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You know, it was a crisis.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You went through a bit of a crisis, a crisis.
It's also there's nothing worse than for something for you
to find something like that out publicly is horrendous, horrendous, right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And and the guy you're working with, Yeah, that and
and bobcat gold wait to really if you really want
to pile on the bad things.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
But I remember my mom said to me to ask
you a question, and I said Church. She said, would
it have been easier if it was Brad Pitt?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
And I was like, I don't know. It's a very
very very good question. I don't think it would be great.
I don't think it would be great, but understand, yeah,
or or I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I don't know how I feel about Honestly, either way
it was it was pretty terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
But yeah, I was gutted. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep.
It was one of those jobs. So but her and i'
you know, stayed in touch.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Actually over the years we catch up once in a while,
so not much has changed there.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, David, I was saying, because I knew you and
Kevin went back, but we've When I texted Kevin about
coming on, because I just said, you're gonna get I'm sorry,
you just have to do this for me, he read
anything for you, Christine, But I said, the reason is
because I mean, I don't know how many guests we
have had on where your.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Name comes up and so the story Jamie.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We had Sleigh on a couple weeks ago your name
came Like you are so threaded through the nineties through
so many different circles and friend groups.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I had a pretty good role in kid Nineties on Hulu.
You sure did, my friend. God they cut what they caught.
I was like watching it fighting by nail was watching
that thing.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It was that movie was amazing. So they did such
a great job. I only watched it for the first
time the night before our interview, but I was so
proud of her. I mean, really unbelievable document of that
time period.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I know for me it was. It was almost hard
to watch, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, it just so it just just feels like, yeah,
that part of it just it feels like a lifetime ago, right,
but you know.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Bring up so much. Yeah, I was never you know,
I was uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Not in a bad way, but like it was very,
very very nostalgic because there's a lot of our a
lot of people that are that are all in there,
that you know, you might not even know by name,
but that we that we were friends with that either
or that either passed away. So it was just to
see that video footage kind of cleaned up and organized.
Was uh yeah, it wasn't as easy for me to
(11:42):
watch as I as I.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Thought of it. Me.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
No, I bet I felt like, you know, having known
so many of you in it, and I always felt like,
you know, I met so let over the years, but
I was like one step removed from that world. But
knew everybody knew, you know, would see people in passing,
so I could parallel clicks. Yes, it was very parallel.
I remember the nights where people are like, oh no,
(12:06):
we're going to Salley, so we're doing you know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Like it was that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But I so I could watch it more as a bystander.
But you were you lived it. You lived it, and.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You weren't on you weren't on mushrooms driving through a
daisy forest.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
If so, I was going to say, you not only
lived it, we survived it. Like I saw, you know,
when I saw Balti talking and you know, he and
I went to Hell and back during White Squall, and
and and David as well, talking about how close everyone
came to like complete disaster.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But he really he really.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Landed on his sheep all started. I know, I mean,
it's it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, Christine, let's go back. Ask him how he started acting.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Kevin, let's go back, Let's go back, Long Island boy.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Yeah, exactly, New York boy.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
By the way, in my brain I still remember because
you would bring it as a joke to parties. Your
composite headshot, the four shot. Gotta no one is more
classic than your.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Right like fumbling books, right right, right, you got to
hold the baseball. What was your Yeah, then there was
like your cool like leather jack. But my fourth thing
was one where I'm fumbling books.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
The other one was me.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
With a literally my head like Danny Zuka or something,
and and like a.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Leather jack, a black leather jacket. And that's like my street. Look,
it's so ridiculous. That's your edge. I've shared that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know back in the day, when I tried to
look edgy, I would wear like a jean jacket with
the collar up, and that was my idea of edgy.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
You know, Christine, it's funny you talk about Rocky five,
But my mom was not a stage momb she wouldn't.
But for whatever reason, when I read for Rocky five,
she was hell bent on me wearing this jacket to
this audition. Now I'm fourteen, I'm not sticks anymore, right right,
I'm like, it's never going to happen.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Her and I are literally standing with scream.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
We're screaming at each other in the car, and I go,
you know what, I put the jacket on. I wear
the jacket and it's a ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous leather jacket.
It's like ten years too late, which is what I
was trying to tell her, far out of style.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So I don't wear mind do the audition with this
ridiculous jacket on. Get the movie.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
And then when we're at some point we're on set,
and the producer said to me, and man, when you
walked in there with that leather jacket, everybody else should
have just walked out and went home.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Thanks mom.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I do my reading, my killer reading. Oh god. But
so that was a big movie. That was your first movie. Yeah,
it was a movie. You know, you know it's a
big deal at the time. Honestly, how about this.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I've told people this, whatever else I've done internally, that
was the closest feeling to a career euphoria that I
ever felt right. I know that sounds weird and random,
but it's sure like when I got new that I
got that job, it was just like enormous because I've
been doing commercials for so many years and now it's
like a Rocky movie.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I had like the secret script, Oh my god, to
see I made a very very, very big deal at
the time.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
As a first role. I mean, my son who's now eighteen,
knows every every line to every Rocky movie. I'm not kidding,
like for sure they live on and Yeah, what an
iconic first role. It must have been crazy to get
that as your first movie.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Did you get that? You auditioned for that in New York?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, auditioned in New York, We shot, We shot in Philly, Philly,
shot in Philly. Yeah, yeah, good stuff. Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
All right, so you do that movie. You're fourteen, you're
in high school.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Right, But I'd done a bunch of commercials for that.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Honestly, that was like my main thing because I was
always afraid we didn't We never wanted to move to California.
I was never going to in eighth grade, we were
not moving the family to California. So it wasn't until
I got a little bit older than I started reading
for things that could take me away long term. So
you know, school was not my thing obviously. So when
I was a senior, I happened to do a pilot.
(16:30):
I got a thirteen episode. Older, I'm like, oh, I
wish they were all that easy, right, But so I
moved out here with like a thirteen episode and it
started in like August. So when all of my friends
went to college, I moved out here.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh my god, that's kind of like our hay dude.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, we have similar stories, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
People say, where'd you go to college? I say, Jerry's
Delhi pretty much where I spent my.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
College years, which is no longer something else sad. That
is so sad to me that I would like it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Should be protected by the city.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Literally, it's a historical landmark.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
But yeah, and then and then yeah, and I was
ended up out here, and then there's that weird time
in your life where you're like not old enough to
get into kind of bars, and you know, it's a
weird time for a young person to be.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
On your own and ding the street. I mean from.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
If like, those are things that I think about that
with my daughter, My daughter's twenty one now, and if
she said to me, I'm moving to LA of course
she's a full fledged adult, but I would make sure hard.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
How we did it, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I think ignorance, like my parents ignorance, and like we
were all just a little bit wide eyed of like, yeah,
and I had roommates that sort of fell into place,
so I it wasn't like I read a look for
a place to live. There was always like a person
that I could move in with. But what a like
we were.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Well, it's funny, you know what ignorance. It sounds bad,
but it's kind of the right word, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I've often said if I knew then what I was
to learn it now, more than likely wouldn't have done it.
So the only thing that got me out here was ignorance.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And like blissful ignorance, right, going on, what's the problem,
That's right, It's so true, It's so true.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Listen. Yeah, we partied hard, you know, Kevin, I actually
just went to Pantera Sarah's fiftieth birthdayside make it?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
How was that was that a blast from the past
or what? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It was great. I don't you know. My wife and
I don't go to clubs, you know, but I had
some friends that were going to be there, so we're like,
all right, we're going.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It was but it was really a club, right, It
was like bar, lounge club.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I have loungee it's called pop on Losienaga. But it
was right near like where the gate was, and like
where we used to you know, and those were the
heydays of the nineties. We would go out and it
was it was like a time warp.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But the other thing too, And again I'm sure you
guys have talked about this, and you know, the social
media aspect of it was we just didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You went on and you hung out and you weren't
worried about.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Tik tok, and right who was following you was just
a you know, of course we sound like our parents
when we say this, but it was a better time,
or or certainly a.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Less complicated time.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
How some of these kids, yeah I could say that
kids because I'll be fifty in a couple of months.
How some of these kids navigated there stronger than I
could have ever been. With the microscope and all the
pressure that comes along with forget about the career part
of it now, for the social I don't think I
would have lasted five seconds.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So all my traps people.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
A little hard on these kids that have a lot
on their plate. What a responsibility to have one hundred
million followers, you know that with that comes responsibility. I
would never want any I never I couldn't have been.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Trusted with that.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Or if you're if you're an up and coming actor
and you make one wrong move or say one wrong thing,
it's like you could blow yourself up nuts. I remember
the movie which I watched with my wife and my
daughter the other day, The Notebook, And that's the first
time after we had worked together where I was like, wow,
(20:28):
this and the movie holds up and it's so it's
such a classic. How did that movie come about for you? Well?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I had done John Q with Nick Cassavetti's and he
and I, he and I had hit it off and
we were very friendly.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
The ironic thing about The Notebook is, you know, hindsight
is twenty twenty, but at the time.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Nobody knew who Ryan Gosling was.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Right, nobody knew who Rachel McAdams was. I mean, you know,
credit where credit is due to Nick. He went out
and he somehow meant to get that movie greenlit with
two unknowns as as the leads, you know, and and
a lot of people had taken a crack at that.
Spielberg had that for a while, like big, big, big
directors just didn't feel like they could crack it. And
(21:15):
and you know, Nick, Nick got it going, and you know,
and he knocked it out of the bar.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
It's funny. For me.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I was great because I also was the second unit
little known fact that was the second.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Unit director of the I know this.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Before. Yeah, I've done I've done some stuff I did.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I did uh, I'd done a short film. I got
it a sun Dance, and I was out there. They
needed somebody. But you know the title sequence in the
beginning where the dudes rowing the boat and all the.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Ducks, I I shot all that stuff from the Noble.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, so that's great.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, it was amazing to be out there. And you know,
it's it's different to studio movie. It's not like all right,
that seemed like it was a focus because you gotta move.
It was like, oh no, we'll stay here, do we
get it, Let's take it, Let's do another one. Let's
do another one. So it was nice to work kind
of inside that system.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
This is the reason I know that Kevin, and this
is a little perfect segue into the world. So so
little known fact. Kevin, me my brother Ben, who Matt Levin,
our friend, met.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
David Pressman.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
We we we started making like home movies. This all
came from like late nights out We'd come home, nobody
wanted the night to and and we were like, let's
make a movie about this, and we would just take
the video camera and we we started one late night
and we titled it Budget Zero Productions because it was
(22:47):
started out with zero dollars, started out with zero dollars.
And so we made one with Ben and Kevin, my
brother who's not an actor, but we would always put
him in starring roles in it. And and we made
a surprise one for Ben. And that was when we
used Nick's office, right well, we so.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We started one late night.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
We made it rather ridiculous, which is around somewhere.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I gotta see, I gotta.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
See, Yeah, yeah, surprise, surprise, yeah surprise. It's sort of
a sign was maybe a bit. I did a lot
of the music editing.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
And Brian's Brian's the star of this.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Brian.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Brian, Yeah, Brian's well, this was this was sort of
a this was sort of maybe an ensemble piece.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
It was, but honestly, like at a certain point, everybody
just there was a certain dare I say, it got
taken a little bit seriously to where even six o'clock
in the morning, when everybody had had way too much
to drink, where like like I think Ben just told
us to stay on our mark like that is like, well,
(23:55):
if we're going to do it, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We had to go back for reshoots on it to
do we had to do some additional photography, and.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
We had a great we had a great experience. And
then we said, Christine says, hey, Christine, was that was
it Ben's birthday?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It was Ben's birthday. Yeah, but you guys also had
shot one for me first Culminator, which was a surprise
for mine.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Oh no, that was what came after. The guy came after.
So so we're a budget zero. So when now it's
Ben's birthday and we want to Christine says, we want
to do a surprise movie for Ben, get all the
same actions back together, come up with a completely new
script idea but we actually went out like sober during
the day.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And like shot it was a real thing, actually spent
something directed it totally.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Surprise for men. And you were pregnant with Ella.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Pregnant with Ella, like like up in a chair like about.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
To give birth while we were shooting the movie. That
was Ella, right, that was Ella. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
So so we we surprised Ben with this with this
five six minute movie. It looks pretty good, but the product,
the production quality had jumped from the one that Ben
had done it five in the morning. So Ben said, oh, okay,
you want to you want to go, you want to
go up to the next level. So now the next
movie Ben does, Oh boy, let's just say there were helicopters.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And Ben's next movie that.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Was a really that was a huge surprise. You guys
had call sheets because there's a hole behind the scenes.
Tom Cruise appears in it. Keefer Sutherland appears in the helicopter.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Ben went over the top and we said, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You want to think you think you're gonna show me
up with.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
In the sleepy Tom Cruise.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I got to Cruise in the next movie, and you know,
and then and then it just went ballistic.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
There was a few of them that were just like
not budget zero.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
But you know, Christine, one of the things that I
always said, like you know that none of those ever.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Got out, that's see and you know.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Why, because it doesn't have to be that way, Like
you're around people that you trust, it can be you
can you know, you can do things like that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And the big fear was always like what just out
of context, it would be like these people are all crazy, you.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Know, and it never ever ever got out because everybody
that had him but that was involved, it was trustworthy,
and it was a tight knit group that could be trusted.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know, actually made You're absolutely right, We made DVDs
like with cases and graphics and upload.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Those to YouTube right now, you get uploaded to get
upload that to YouTube, you know what I mean, It's
it's crazy. So but I always think back about that
when it's like, oh, you know, every boat's going to
have a leak, I'm like, no, it doesn't have to
not every boat has to have a leak.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You know. So they talked to so Ley talked about
that how she had all these all the people she
came up with on video and she locked it away
and literally didn't open it for twenty years and was like,
no one's going to see this footage of my friends
unless it's me asking them to put this out there right.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Well, and not only that, like I never even had
that conversation with Sleet again to go back.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm like, I've known this girl for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I have to believe that whatever is in that movie
is not is I try.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I trust her.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I never even called to ask, right, I don't even
called to ask. I just knew that she would not
do anything to hurt make.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, it all came from love. That came from so
much love and reverence.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You know. I think Leo produced it.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah exactly. Yeah she said they sat down and watched
it together, and yeah he was blown away. Yeah, but
you started directing on your TV shows, which is always
something Christine. I always look back and like, whenever there
was a renegotiator, I should have just been like, I
want to direct an episode because it took me years
to make my first movie.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well, Kelly, yeah, did you always want to direct? Because
you know, did you guys both always want a direct or?
Was it just something that sort of being on a
series gave you that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
I just think eventually and you start to develop other interests. Right,
It's like I've been doing the same thing since I'm
six years old.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And by the way, acting is easy for me, like
I have I'll take a nap in my trailer. I
don't know, like especially obviously, there's certain things that are
more challenging, but for the most part, you know, even
directing unhappily ever after you know, remember that's you're in
the booth calling out the camera shots, right, So I
would you know, the sound stages are on, the trucks
(28:24):
are outside the sound stage. I would be in half
the scene, leave and by you know, the second the
second half of the scene, I'd be in the truck
calling calling the shots. So it just for me, it
was just more the insanity of it was.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's great training though, right, yeah, amazing training.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, it was. It was wild. I think I did.
I think I did like six of those, but it
was it was difficult.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
And then and then you know, I did I directed
a couple episodes of Entrage and that was really challenging
and it took certainly took me a second to get
used to remember the first time I did a scene
with Adrian.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
After the scene. He goes, uh, can I talk to you?
I go, yeah, It's like I feel like you're judging
me in the scene. I go, yeah, were the director
in the scene and you're.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Tras over my shoulder and I'm like, oh God.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Like smile Norse, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Like I can feel you judging me. And I was like, yeah,
I think I think I might have been judging you
heavily in that last tank. But you're right, and I
finally got the hangar that you.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Just got to go.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Listen, this is a good this is the top notch crew.
It's in focus, you know, but it took a second
to get into that zone where you didn't want to
in the middle of the sea, like, yeah, rotate him
around on his mark.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
A little bit right there.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
That looks that looks.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Sorry what we said, you know, but you know, listen,
and you know listen, and Christine knows. It's it's ten
times the work, a hundred times the work and what
goes into it. You lose a piece of yourself every
time you direct something because you go so deep, essentially
put every every relationship in your life at risk. You're
(30:09):
just it's all encompassing, you know, so you don't just
do it for I would never do it again unless
I really wanted to do it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I would never just go, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
You'll direct that. Yeah, it has to be something you
love that you're about, really really.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Really want to do it, because if you're going to
go do it for kicks, you're going to get you're
going to get blown out of the.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Water, especially a film you know that could take that
could be two years of your life.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Right, and then you go, okay, what and at the
end of the day, you know, so few, so few
of them now right, I mean now it's like, how
do you get eyeballs on these things?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Right?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
There's so many. I don't know, there's so many. I
don't know if it's a good thing or a bad day.
What do you guys think? How do you feel about.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Streaming from the viewer standpoint? Greatest thing because from a
you know, from the person who is looking for content
or you know what I mean. And but I miss
going to the theater, like I love a theater experience.
I love when something comes out and it's a theater,
like you know, Mission Impossible over the summer, like those
(31:10):
kinds of movies where you just really but even if
it's a little movie and it's playing somewhere in New York.
You know, just some of those cool theaters have shut down,
even that would show the indie like the Lincoln, you know,
Plaza or whatever that would do the indie movies and stuff.
So I miss that. I don't love you know what
I mean, I miss that so much. I mean, I
think as an actor, you know, certainly having just gone
(31:31):
through the whole strike, but I mean, it just felt,
you know, listen, everybody would say, oh, there's so many
more platforms, there's so many more jobs. It's like being
an actor is hard. It's not like everybody's getting so
much more work because in fact, most of the movie
stars have moved to strending platforms and television, which makes
even more challenging.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Well, the work that's been done in streaming even television
going back ten years, you know, from Breaking Bad all
the way to like Severance, you know, these are like
these are as cinematics as any film I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Right right, Well, that's the thing too.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
And you know, let's let's face it. You know, when
we grew up, our TVs were whatever. You know, it's like,
you know, there's something to be said for I'll look
at a movie, go oh, that looks really cool. I
can't wait to lay in bed and watch it on
my eighty five minute TV.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'm not going to the grove nowhere. No, there's a
battle through that traffic.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Park and all of it. Get there to half hour early,
all of it.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Two hundred two hundred bucks to walk in the door.
You're like, where are we went to the opera?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you need a babysitter right now?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
As a new dad, I can't wait, not even new anymore.
It feels like a minute ago to me.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I know, but I'm trying to push long form on her.
I really, really, really trying to get her to go for.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
The long form.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I can't wait for the day where I can say, hey,
do you want to go to the movies and she's like, yes,
I want to see I don't care what it is.
She wants to go and sit there for two hours
and watch I'll watch whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I can't wait. She's not there yet. Yeah, but I'm
trying to. I'm trying to. I'm really pushing this frozen thing.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
I wanted to get the concept of like, listen, you
gotta let the story's en fold. There's not going to
be a bunch of stuff happening in the beginning. You know,
she's not there yet, right.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
No, no, No, that takes a little time.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Untill the princesses are running around.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
She's like bored with the opening title se place, you know,
So it'll.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It will come, it will come. I can't wait, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Let's go back to first of all, how did Entourage
come about? And you guys all seem and I know
obviously over the course of the show, but was that
just a regular audition or did you have the inside
track on that job, like, you know, because you all
seem like besties.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
You want to hear you want to hear something again
the same thing, right, hindsight is twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
That was that was a pilot, right, but you know,
we know how that goes. I've done a lot of pilots.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
It doesn't necessarily mean that that pilot is going to
get picked up, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So but in fact, I'm officially a pilot killer. I've decided.
I heard that expression with someone recently and they said, no,
I'm a pilot killer. Everybody was like, oh my god,
I'm a pilot Killer, right, Yes, I am. I have
more weight, probably ten pilots that never got picked up.
Like I'm the desk of a serial.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I'm on the cost something. It's something to look at. Something,
it's something to look at. So after the Notebook, I
was going to.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Direct the movie Alpha Dog, okay, which Nick Cassavetti's ended
up doing.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And you know, you know, Nick and I had just we.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Just had butted heads whatever whatever it was. But long
story short, I got the end of it.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
I just said. Nick was like, you know I'm doing
I'm going to and I was like, you know what,
go ahead, directed, I'm going to do this pilot, you know.
And the pilot was Entourage. Wait, Nick who tired me?
Nick Caves?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
But I wrote that script of them we developed in
and like came down to the you know, he came
down to it and he just took it over and
I was.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Like, all right, I'm going to do this pilot.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And it was just an entage was just something you
had like just had on show for you just don't
know they.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Had they had been they you know, they're these guys
Will and and last year like yeah, Conley said he
was retired from Magnet.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
It's like, no, no, I never said. First of all,
I never said I was retired from He's like the
guy retires thirty years old. Guy retires from that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh that's a good that's a good dog.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Allen and Press committed to doing this movie. Like what
was I supposed to do? Turn around and tell.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Mick like, hey man, sorry, I'm going to a pilot.
You know. So I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I was, but they were. They really wanted me to
come in and finally Wahlberg was like I would. I'm
asking you as a favor to go in and sit
with Doug and.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Just just talk to him.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
So I did that, and you know, and you were
so perfect for that role. I remember that Christine Doug
is one of my oldest friends. We were roommates here.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, yeah, so I remember when he wrote in he
was casting it, and I remember sitting with Jeremy Piven.
He was excited about him. But Kevin Connolly was so
much this character, right.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And you had not not an authorage, but you had
a close group of friends that were all coming up together.
You kind of lived there.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I understood the world to a certain to a certain extent.
But you know, it's funny because different because as its
really was Mark's world.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I just had I even had a reference for Mark's
world because Christine's to your point, like we ran in
parallel circles.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
We would sit at different tape. Mark and his friends
would come in and sit at one table and we
would be at the other table.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
But we always felt cheap because we knew that they
would nobody would ever let them anybody funck with us.
I'll be like I won a good Wolburg and these guys,
no one's getting made out. We were always under their protection.
You know, they're a little rougher, a little rough around
the edges. But yeah, I was, uh you know, yeah,
no I was. You know, I knew them, I knew Mark,
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you know, I knew all those guys, so you know,
I was. I was right for the role because initially
they wanted they was like it was like the very edgy,
like tough guy, and it's like, listen, I don't know
if we're gonna have much of a show. If the
show was like you guys coming in and beating everybody
up at the bar, like we had to try to
make them like likeable.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Character, right right? Did you wear your leather jacket for that?
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I do not wear my leather yetet you remember, I
was like, so, I was like, and then I said
that Doug asked Doug about this last I said that Doug,
I was like, you know what, now it's too built up.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Now I don't want to read.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I felt that way, like at that point, I was like,
you can't just get me be.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Your hall for I was like, wait, wait, they all
begged you to do the show and then wanted you
to then audition, so.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
They just wanted to hear me shay there like yeah,
like I just I just have to hear you say.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I was like, eh, I don't know, man, Now it's
so built up. I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I finally, because I also have had, you know, bad anxiety,
like I'm either I can either auditioning.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
It's terrible for me.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
But I remember sitting in the car and my agent
was like, Kevin, listen, in fifteen minutes, you're going to
be back in your car driving home and you're never
gonna have to talk to any of those people ever.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Again, that's good advice.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, and that well he was wrong, But yeah, but
that was you know, I'm gonna go in and I'm
just gonna read it.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna give you my best.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right, detach yourself from the result and just correct.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And plus it's like people in there that you know,
and like a couple of more friends were in there.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
But what that's But what what a life change?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Like?
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Listen, you had worked so much, you were so like.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
You, people knew who you were, you had a name
for yourself, but that that job at that moment in time.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
How old were you at that point? Are thirty thirty one?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I was gonna say, like twenty nine thirty like you were, Like, it's.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Just for everybody, but for everybody, like listen, it's just
sometimes it's just what's meant to be is meant to
be right, you know, Like I tell, I tell the story.
So you know, I had a really, really, really bad
experience for the Gatti movie. Right from top to bottom. Honestly,
it's broke me. It's the worst thing I've ever been
through in my professional all of it, all of it,
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just top to bottom, just absolutely broke me. And it
just kept getting worse and worse, and then like as
they were getting ready to let it out, I knew
what was going to happen. And my agent was like,
I was like, you know, there there's a show and
uh called The Oath shoots in Puerto Rico. It's a
cop show. It's sony blah blah. I'm like, yeah, I
love to jump on that.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
So out of the country, just get town.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Went to Puerto Rico for three months and I met
my now partner and baby mama, Like you know, yeah,
So I had to go through that to find her.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Because of that, and it's.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Crazy to think that I would have to do it
all over again to land it in the same spot.
So in a time where you think like I can't
believe this, it lick quite literally. I was fleeing the country,
don't to like let the dust settle, and I met
my future wife and mother of my baby and amazing.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It's the sliding doors aspect of life that is so crazy.
If you had decided to continue with the Nick movie
and direct it and said no to entrage, you'd be
looking back over.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Like what I do or who or who knows?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Or who knows?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Right?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Of course, yeah, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
You just don't know, but you can never You have
to wait long term to see how some of these
decisions will play themselves out.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I guess you know.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Listen, I was, I was along for the Entourage ride.
I remember going to those premieres. It hit so hard.
I mean, not like a network show where you got
twenty million viewers, but it was in the zeitgeist more
than anything I'd ever seen.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
You know, it was it was fun too.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I mean, and listen, anytime you get to shoot in La,
we're at a different restaurant, like we're shooting shooting an
earth cafe, Like, oh, I only even need to put
my car in gear.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
I'll just rolled down the hill there. Different. I mean,
you know, there will never be a better experience.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
You know, you could go on and have creative things,
and but in terms of that time and that age
being on that show, I don't see how it.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Could have how it could have been any better. It
just just flew by, you know. It's funny. Just got
a text message.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
From Adrian and he's got as get in bed, stretched out,
he's got to stay.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I'm like, what it was wrong? He's like, oh, it's
a cavity.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
But he's I guess he's getting he's getting dead to
work done, but it's it's the twenty year anniversary this year.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
No, wow.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah, So we want to, you know, we want to
try to, you know, get back together. Do what we
can do, get everybody back together. You know it's hard
because you know it goes man more than anything. Just
life gets in the way. Yes, it's just not like, oh,
how closely you I'm well as close as a fifty
year old man with a baby can be to another
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middle aged man that lives in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I will tell you this though. I have a question
for you from my nephew, Ethan Ethan Bate, who's a
sophomore at University Wisconsin at Madison. And when I gone
to New York and I was working there, I sleep
in his bed because he's at away at college. He's
a giant Entthorage poster just hanging. I go to sleep
to your and he and his college buddies live for
(42:33):
the show, right, nineteen year old college students.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, I think that's a pandemic thing. Maybe it came
back doring people being shut in and yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah people, I don't know how old are you? You know, yeah,
I know a second. If they ever released that on Netflix,
it'll be well, it would explode on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
He wanted me to ask you that the camaraderie, the
French it between the fo you uh, seemed so real.
Were you guys very close during the filming of the show,
and are you guys still tight to this day? That's
what I'm.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Absolutely you know, I mean, and you know, you got
to remember all of us were I mean, Kevin Dellen
had done done a bunch of bunch of stuff, but we.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Were standing behind you and he's been standing there the
whole interview.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
He's not moving.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Ut had been had been done a ton of work.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Right, But we were all experiencing this rapid wave of
like success success, right, And and it was so we
have this sort of weird bond, like we have this
kind of bond because we went through something sort of
extreme together, you know, like I can remember Agent saying,
I remember calling Agent inviting him to this club and
(43:54):
I was like, he's like, well, it's like how do
I get in?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
I said, you walk walk right up and say that
you want to command like.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Idea?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, all right, And then he comes and He's like, yeah,
I work, Yeah, I walked up, let me let me
write it. Just those kinds of things we all kind of,
you know.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
And Dylan had been a little bit older and tells
a great story about when they were doing Platoon, Tom
Barrett gather it ever, gathered everybody together and he said, hey,
you want you guys to all look around and smell
the roses because this is special and they're not all
going to be like this, so enjoy every second of it.
And Kevin Dylan said that to us like early on
in season one, you know, so I had to have
(44:36):
Kevin's you know. Kevin was always you know, kind of
a quiet sort of leader.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
But yeah, we we got along. We got along well.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
And there was never ever any competition between any of
us ever, which is the other. We always stuck together
in negotiations. So everybody made the same amount of money.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
And you all had well developed characters, so you all
had your own material.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Doug was great about making sure that everybody had there.
You were never worried about like where your character you were.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You would all have something.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Everybody was going to get there at bats and you know,
it was, it was, it was, It was great.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I mean, you know, we did eight seasons in a movie,
you know, so crazy, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
We we interviewed a couple of the cast members of
nine O two one O, and they all talk about
that as well as like no matter, like when you
collectively as a cast go through something that huge together,
you are forever bonded. Like they will. Whether they've had
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you know, arguments or fights or in and out, it
doesn't matter. Their their family forever, and will show up
for any one of them, will show up for the
other one because they've just experienced something no one could
understand and they're the ones doing it.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Yeah, there's only there's only a certain thing that the
only the three of them understand.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I mean, tivid Is.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Is all.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Guys, a right eccentric as an absolute animal.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
He's eccentric.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
No, and and by the way, I always, you know,
I always I always got along with hivid PIVN. You know, listen,
man guy won three Emmys in a row. He pitched,
He pitched a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You know, he was We.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Talked about a character being perfect, a character class.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, well he needed a little extra time to like
look at his many sides.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
He get into character. I was all I was always
there for it.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
I always thought, you know, that was a separate experience
onto itself, but watching him do that was was special
as well. And he's he's a little nutty, but he's
a good actor man, and he and he carried us.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He's good is walking and talking and dialogue. This rapid
fire dialogue was so intense. I mean, I know, like
Julian was in a phenomenal director and Doug did such
a great job. But he brought this thing to life
that you know, you do a take and it's like
and you're walking through the office, He's doing a million
different actions. It's really not many people could do that.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yeah, no, it was. There was a there was a
lot going on.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
But and you know, also, like you said, Doug and
quite frankly, the crew, you know, like you don't just
move around like that right totally without people that know
what they're doing. You know, that show is very heavily
prepped and a lot of work when into that. So
there's ninety six episodes. Like I said, I hope it hits.
I wanted to hit Netflix.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
By the way, it's talking about what does that mean
for streaming money? What's that looks like? What's this new contract?
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Looks like yeah, it looks like, yeah, I think you
get a penny per hour stream.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
I was gonna say, I shouldn't, I should hold off
on purchasing.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
A new object or a new item.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Talk about your podcast. Are you guys still this your podcast?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Well, no, you have a whole company, right, Action Park Yeah,
so so it's a yeah, it's a it's a it's a.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Network of podcasts. Right.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
So the idea really comes from being able to get
a jump on IP. Right, So it's so hard to
if you pick up a book at the bookstore and
you go, this is amazing. Believe me, that book got
optioned before it was a book, it was.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Just it was an idea. It was an idea. It's hard.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
It's hard to exactly somebody buys it when it's an idea.
So it's really hard to get your hands. So podcast
was the cheapest way to kind of create sort of
content that you could kind of go out and this.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Is your platforms. It is called what Action Park Media?
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Action Park Media. But then Victory VI under that umbrella.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Okay, yeah, so we have a bunch of stuff under
the umbrella. But you know, it's like even that has.
When we first started, this wasn't necessary, the zoom part. Right.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
Now you have to have a video complonent. You have
to have it, you know what I mean. It used
to be, well, you're.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Just talking to the mic and cut the audio together
and you throw it up there. Now you need it
for the So it's like it just keeps evolving and create.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
It gets crazier and crazier, and I.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
You know, I know this is the obvious, but the
AI of it, guys, right, everybody's got to work.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Everybody's got to work.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Yeah, I mean, this thing cuts AI cuts social clips, Like,
how did they know?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
How would they know? How could that computer know to
cut that? It's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Really AI will figure out what so what clip will
resonate most.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
So we could we could take this episode. You could
run it through an AI thing and.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
They'll suggest clips.
Speaker 4 (49:39):
No way, yes, they'll set they'll they'll suggest and they
will make them and they will give you your description
and they will do all that.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Stuff like that. It's interesting. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Why don't we have Kevin edited this episode and let's see.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Well, I tell people to listen, you have to learn
how to start making the AI work for you, right eating,
Like use it because you'll be better at whatever it
is that you're doing if you're using the AI, whatever
whatever it is that you're doing, you know you have
to use the AI.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
It's not there's there's a I think the fear of
it that people have of like oh I don't want it,
but then there's just the reality that it's all it's
it's we're so far there already, like it's more than
we could ever know.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
I fear it too. That said, I'm going to be
I'm going to be using it.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Because yes, I want to have my head in the sand.
But otherwise, like lean in and start to use it.
To to start, I mean, yeah, I think like you.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Guys have chat EPT chat.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I don't, but I don't. But we've tried it, like
we've done it for fun, you stupid things.
Speaker 4 (50:46):
You should get it. Your chat gypt will know. You
understand that. So if I I talk to my chat
ept like it's my therapist seriously, but now my CHATCHYPT knows.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
So if I have a question.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
About the company, I don't have to anymore and say Hi,
so I have this company it's called this and that. No,
so when I say, hey, do you think this is
a good idea?
Speaker 3 (51:09):
It knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Oh my god. It's like having a personal advisor who's
smarter than anyone you've ever met, just right with you.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yea. And and I also say please and thank you
to my good for you.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
See your mom taught you well, No.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
No, no, that's not why. I think it's just better
to be polite.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
To the old day, and I think it's better to
be polite in general. But it makes me scared, is like,
I mean I don't have scared, well kind of, but
also like like I guess not me personally, but I
look at like these these messages that go out to
the school kids and it's like we will know if
(51:49):
you but lat like now for paperwriting, college applications, you know,
there's it's like how much will kids lean in and
cheat and all of it, which you know, part of it.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Is to do.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
It's just now a new it's a new it's a
new sort of calibration of it.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I have people here that couldn't put string two sentences together,
and all of a sudden they're like handy, mean you're.
Speaker 4 (52:12):
Like, oh, chatchy, this one you didn't even close to
write it. You typed it in and then it wrote
it out for.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
You know, the person's intelligence levels.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Now you're now you're Shakespeare, right, I see that all
the time. Yeah, wild, I mean I actually take great
pride in going that person chat gypt.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
That that little summary right there. I mean, it's so
awesome you spin in there, try to add lingo.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
But yeah, oh we got to get this, Christine. We
got to have our own personal.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Uh, I got to get personal.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
I love that Kevin's polite to the thing because it
could be like hal in two thousand and one, all
of a sudden he's like, I can't do that, Kevin.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Well you've been you just spent a jerk for all
these years. To me, it's the same bad things to me,
you know, takes two seconds, sorry, please and thank you.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
I like to be nice to my there's a movie
idea like a personal AI that goes rogue, like a
modern day two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
I'm's fifty of those, right.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
Like we said, it's already been bought. That was just
your idea, that was birth here, David, It's already been bought,
and it's twelve versions of that and turn around, right, now, oh, Kevin,
we have to start to wrap up because we got
to let you go and I could do this forever
with you. And I want to give you a giant
(53:37):
bear hugg in person because I miss you so much.
Speaker 4 (53:39):
The other time, you guys want to, yeah you need
a guest, got a wholda call me up. I'm going
to jump on as advice.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
It is great yea, thank you very much and so much.
You guys ever need anything for me, let me You're
the bestest.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Okay, I just love him so much.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
That went so fast, so fast, right, we had so
much to talk about. But yeah, he's just always been
such an amazing.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Guy and he's just real. He salts of the earth.
He's so charismatic. I mean, I do remember like that
period of time where he was tortured by this breakup
and it was horrible by wait, by what by the breakup,
by the history that public the Nikki breakup, and it
was he was and also you know, he talked a
(54:37):
little bit about Entourage and how the characters were written
pretty rough around the edges, and Kevin was always like
he was ready to get into it with someone if
they if I want to like the bars you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
And he is the toughest, one of the toughest. I know,
he's not scared of anyone. No, and wait, what was
the story? The Nikky story is that he was doing
a show with playing his sister.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
And they worked together.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Bobby had gold places, did the did the voice of
the puppet.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes, they all worked on the show together, and Nicky
and Kevin were dating and he Kevin found out that
Nicky was essentially dating Bobcat. But it obviously was a
summer thing that happened and she was probably waiting to
tell him, but the paparazzi caught a shot. It was
just horrible, awful, awful for him. But he's just really
(55:35):
like just one of the dearest, Like when I tell you,
and we talked about those home movies and I know
my brother's listening to this. He listens to every single
one of them. And Brian knows, like we have this collection.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
You said, Brian's not an actor, but he has movie
star good looks. He's always had.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Oh, Brian, listen to that. That's for you, Brian the best.
But yeah, we we try to watch those movies like
once every year or two. We pulled them out and
watch it and it's just like a trip down memory
lane and uh yeah one of maybe maybe i'll show
you on one day David.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yes, I had no idea he and Ben were competing
to make better.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
Well, it's so funny because I had no idea that
was their the dynamic. But Kevin obviously felt that's like,
all right, we're going into we're doing a budget, now,
a budget.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
I got Tom Cruise coming in helicopters. Kevin is actor, director, entrepreneurial. Uh,
just an impressive guy and a sweetheart of a guy.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah, so great. All right, Well that's gonna do it
for us, and we will have maybe a little a
little surprise holiday episode coming up.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Maybe, I hope, So, I hope we can book this. Yeah,
it's in the works.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
A little fun because normally most podcasts don't do a
holiday like Over the Holidays, don't record. But we're gonna
we might have some fun holiday themed right.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
If it works out, it'll If not, you'll just.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
Get to hear us wishing you a happy holiday next teme.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
No, we're going to get these people. It's gonna smiles
on a lot of faces. So thank you for listening.
Have a great week leading up to the holidays. Yes,
bye bye everybody.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Thanks for listening. Make sure to subscribe and give us
five stars.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
And please follow us on Instagram at Hey Dude. The
nineties called see you next time.
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