November 10, 2022 • 44 mins
"A cabin has the tranquility of nature.” - Josh Johnson
“What about bears? There are way more animals that can attack you in the mountains, than can attack you in the ocean.” - Dulcé Sloan
As a follow up to last week’s debate on summer vs. winter, it’s mountain cabins vs. beach houses this week on Hold Up with Daily Show correspondent Dulcé Sloan and writer Josh Johnson. #DailyShow #HoldUp #Podcast
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That's a whole lot, whold lot of feelings, whole lot
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of emotions, whole lot of talking about very little. We uh,
we break down the things that are important to us,
not things that are important in the world. And today
we have a little bit of a part two. We
have a little bit of a of a revisit, okay,
because we we had talked a little bit back and
forth about some seasonal things that everything, but today we
bring it home with what I would consider the final
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form of those things. Why people enjoy those seasons. Right today,
it's gonna be cabins in the mountains versus beach houses.
Get into it. How wrong can Josh be in two
weeks back to back? Okay, so I'm guessing that means
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that you want to go first. Then No, since you're
so you're so sure, you're so sure, you're so positive
that I'm wrong. So I'm excited to hear. I'm if anything,
I feel like I have a front seat tell me
how wrong I am, so that I can tell you
how none of that applies. Go ahead, listen. Is not
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that you're wrong, is that you're not right? You know
what I mean? No, No, don't don't do that either. Uh.
If you want you want to take me out with logic,
you got to do it. You gotta do it top
to bottom. First of all, when in the history of
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you knowing me, have I always gone pure logic. I'm
just saying, you're saying how wrong I am? Like how
how I'm talking about in general over the history of
the podcast. M you see what I'm saying, Like, it's
not just to Jay, it's not just last episode, it's
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it's every episode, and it's it's every episode. What do
you say? Listen, I'm just concerned for you you're concerned
for me, you should be concerned for yourself. All right,
Well you've had you've had plenty of episodes where you
did well, where you got the people on your side. Um,
and I think that maybe I think that maybe you've
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underestimated that I make good points to Sometimes I feel
things that people also like, you know, talking about every episode, Yeah,
you make great points, but they're just not right, you
know what I'm saying. Like it's you make great points,
but you just don't win. It's like a debate. You
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get points even if there's like a there's a knockout
and then there's like a t KO. It's like, oh,
you want to box the match because the footwork, you
know what I mean? So tell me what's so great
about beach houses? Well, I just I just don't understand
why I have to even just feel these questions because
it's like, first of all, it's the motherfucking beach. So like,
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I don't even understand. It's like people are like, oh,
they're sad. It's like you sound stupid. Shut up. There's
dirt everywhere, sad. It's just a different kind of dirtt.
This is a little dirt soil, there's dirt. There's saying, Okay,
sand is the herpies of dirt. All right, it's gonna
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get in and it's gonna be hard to get out.
You're not even gonna know that you have it until
you know you take your shoes off. It's it's a
it's a pain. No, No, we act like that saying
is this is this mysterious creature that goes bumping the night.
They'll just roll up on you and be like you
didn't you even knew that was here. What I'm saying, like,
now you know what the hell is saying came from
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you into the beach, didn't you? But they're saying, okay, listen,
you have to if you don't know the secrets of
getting the sand off of you. Okay, you gotta let
the wind do a lot of the work. Okay, you
gotta shake stuff out before you put it in the car.
But also, when you met to the beach, you knew
you was gonna get some saying okay, this is just
part of the experience. You know, when you go to
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a bar, somebody might spill a drink on you, but
you still go to a bar and someone supposed to
drink you like oh wow, this is crazy. But if
you're sitting in a golden car when somebody supposed to
drink on you, it's gonna be very unexpected. Look if
you were sitting at a golden corral and you were
upset about any outside forces coming at you and doing
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any form of damage to your person, your belongings, what
you're wearing, then you are the one that's out of order,
all right. When you go to a golden corral, you
truly take your life into your own hands. Also, some
what some crab legs? Where the crab legs really worth it?
Do they have crab legs? I don't know if they
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have crap legs. I feel like I might also be
confusing golden corral with a different place. I saw a
fight over crap legs. Was that a Chinese bouefire? No?
But it was a buffet for sure, And it was
it was people. At first, it was just tongs, a
lot of tongs like snipping at each other like, and
then a couple of hands, and then some tongs caught
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some hands, and then some hands caught some hands, and
then everybody caught hands. Wow, what a song? Did you
know that we're out of crab. Who's we like as
a culture, like, as a people, like, as human beings,
the crab is gone? Wait what you look up? Um?
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What what are you saying right now? So you're saying
we are out of crab? Like, I think all this
like there's a billion crabs that we don't have. I
didn't make this up as an article looking up on that.
I'm not. I'm not saying you're making anything up. I'm
trying to understand how much out of crab we are.
When you say, do you mean America saying that billions
of snow crabs have disappeared from the waters around Alaska,
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scientists say over fishing is not the cause. Oh it's
I wish it was us. It's worse, that's not us.
So then so then wait, if you go to one
of these crab places and you order crab, is it
not crab? Well, we just I think we just found
this out like a month ago. So the shock and
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awe of many billions missing from the population is worth noting.
That includes all the females and babies. The Bristol Bay
red king crab harvest will be also be closed for
the second year in a row. The agency's announced. Oh shit,
I mean it looks like cabin's just got a little
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bit more appealing. All right, there's gonna be no crab
because I mean, come on, you gotta go to the
cold now. First of all, it's a snow crab. This
is what hot crab. Okay, you get, you get crabs hot. Though,
I'm saying if things that come to the beach are
dying off right, So if there's no more crabs, just
gonna be running around scooter scooting at the beach. No, no,
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no, no no, these are different crabs. These are Alaskan snow crabs.
It's only the Alaskan ones that are disappearing. Yes, there's
only the lasting ones. There's billion of them issing. They
don't know where they're at. I don't know. Maybe they
just need to turn left. I don't know where. I'm
not a scientist. Obviously it was a theater major. But
you having a good seafood tree is one of my
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favorite parts of going to the beach because I can
tell you, I don't know what black people are gonna
do if we're at snow crap. That's that's also my concern.
As soon as I heard it, I was like that
means the gumbo is gonna be lacking. Bro It means
the buffets are going to be weak. It means your
crab boils. It's gonna be uh problem. Yeah, we need
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more black climate scientists specifically for this. Skip skip all
the other stuff. Even if we're gonna die in a decade,
go ahead, skip all that. Tell us how to get
the snow crabs back. I'll tell you what I'm gonna
I'm gonna help you out right now. And I'm gonna
tell you why. Cabins in the mountains our superior. You
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won't even have to worry about any of this duel.
Say you come to a cabin, you're chilling. No, this
is not a beach problem. This is not a beach
house problem. The beaches are a problem. The beach houses
are a problem. Okay, No, no, no, no, no, no no,
you can he no no, because I'll tell you right now.
I'll tell you right now. The beach house. Let's let's
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talk about it for a second. Let's talk about the dangers. Okay,
let's talk about just the dangers. You are a beach house.
I'm gonna go to the beach every day. Oh I'm
so happy, right, sharks. You got sharks. Okay, you already
got the sharks, then you got the storms. You really
want to be there during a storm when you're in
a cabin in the mountains. Tell you what variables bears
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are you saying? They're way more sharks than there are
bears eating people, attacking people, slapping people. No, there are not.
People interact with bears way more than they interact with sharks.
Crazy people on purpose. Yes, no no no no no
no no no no no. You are more likely to
get conge by a bead and get attacked by a shark.
People all ways use this shark equivalence. It's like, oh,
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I get attacked by a shark. Ben you could have
got a car accident on the way here, because you
know people are provoking sharks. Does not act like that.
But also so you can't say, oh, you gotta talk
about bearcers, you're provoking a bear. No, sometimes bears ain't
here with the ships. There's let you know, I'm not
here to play with you. You should have opened a trash.
Can you knew I was coming? Stop playing with me?
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Don't act like the people get attacked by bears. But
it's also panthers. There's panthers. There's panthers, there's mountain lions.
There are very aggressive deer, like, there are way more
animals that can't attack you in the mountains, that can't
attack you in the ocean. So we're really gonna skip jellyfish.
We're really gonna skip staying rays. Were really gonna skip sharks, jellyfish.
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You can see a jellyfish coming up. All you gotta
do is just swim away from the jellyfish. All you
gotta do is not run up on a mountain lion,
like like mountain lions run mountain lions up on you.
I've never heard of a person getting attacked by mountain
lion the way I have a shark. I feel like
mountain lion is the lowest on this list, is it?
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I don't know. I bet you. Here's the thing I
will say. I can already concede this point technically that
I feel like we don't hear about them as often.
But I can see how people be going to those
national parks and be touching bears and rubbing up on bears,
and and then bears slap them and accidentally kill them. Right,
But that's still not a cabin though the National Parks
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is not a cabin bear. So are we talking about
houses in the mountains or the mountains of the concept
as a label houses in the mountains because we're not
just talking about the beach right now. We're talking about
beach houses. Okay, so we're not talking about Okay, so
we're about beach homes. Yeah, beach homes. That's why I
brought the storms because I was like, guys, this is
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this is great property to own in between hurricane seasons.
I mean, listen, don't tornadoes go to mountains? Do they?
I don't know, I'm a meteorolog. I feel like this
is gonna sound real dub. I probably gonna get judged
in the comments, But I feel like when the tornado
hits the mountain, the mountain just break it all up,
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like it just it just it hits and it even storms,
but it doesn't like go through. It doesn't like hop
scotch up the mountain to keep destroying stuff the way
that it does on a flat land. Yeah. Yeah, because
tornado's gonna have legs like that, Like it's not like
a Tasmanian devil that's just gonna jump up and keep
spinning because hurricanes just go. Hurricanes go in a way
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that like it feels disrespectful. Like I grew up in Louisiana,
so I've I've witnessed hurricanes just act like buildings weren't
in the way. Yes, but I've never seen like I've
seen a tornado, right because when we moved back to Miami,
there weren't any major hurricanes that hit while we lived there.
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We moved there right after Hurricane Andrew, which devastated all
of South Florida. I understand like having a beach house, like, yeah,
it's like you're worried about flooding, you're worried about hurricanes.
But like when you live in a cabin, it's you know,
you have to worry about forest fires, you have to
worry about you know, snow can get heavy, snow can melt.
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If there's you know, you can cause a lot of
water damage. I mean, there's different hazards that you have
with living in both places. What I can say is
that one, I don't believe to go into the mountains
in the summer in the same way that it is
pointless to go to the beach in the winter. So
we're still leaning on seasonal peaks. Yeah, because it's like
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the beach is the most enjoyable when you can, you know,
legs out, titties out, you're hopping in and out of
this ocean. Right. And then as someone who thinks that
a vacation in the summertime, it's only having a beach
house and a place that's not like I've been in
a beach house and like Atlantic City and I'm like
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that wasn't like Old Jersey source situation. I'm just like,
I know y'all, y'all don't know no better. That's why
you think this is nice. Also, Yankee beaches are just
not great anyway. Where's the best beach to you? Oh,
I'm you're giving me a Caribbean. You're giving me you
know the like Marco Island in Florida is gorgeous, Dauphin
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Island is pretty, and um in Alabama, like Gulf. The
Gulf is very pretty because it's like they're really clear
clear water. And when you go to like Fort lat
the like Ola Beach, Biscayne Bay, South Beach, like the
Keys are very beautiful. When I went to Turks and Caicos,
oh my god, that was fucking gorgeous, so you have
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like a clear water sitch, you know what I mean.
But like also the good thing about be in the
beach house like that thing that people talk about, like
you know, truck, you know, having to drag stuff down
to the beach and you know, um the sand and
all of that. It's when you don't have to tote
stuff back to the car, it's a totally different campaign.
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Like I had a condo on Tybee Island, I think
for my thirty tea. I think my thirty seventh birthday.
I think maybe thirty six, thirty seven, I don't know.
We just had a condo just across the street because
all the ones on the beach were like time chairs
and ship so we couldn't get in. So all we
were just across the street. And as somebody who grew
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up going to Tybee Island and it was we were in.
We drove down for the day, or we would go
up to Hilton Head and we drove down and then
you spent on the at the beach. You have to
tote everything back to the car and then drive four
hour back to Atlanta. To be able to just cross
the street and go to the beach and then go
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back inside. Was amazing. But like as a kid, so
when I was like nine, ten years old, we lived
in we lived on North Miami Beach, so like we
lived in this, we lived in the So you ever
see that show Sweet Life from Zack and Cody, Yeah,
that's what we were. So it's like we lived in
this hotel. We had the kitchen, the housekeepers would watch us.
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German Touris taught me how to swim. It's like a
shopping mall on the bottom It's still there. Actually, it's
like a shopping mall on the bottom floor. And every
day I would just go swimming in the ocean or
swimming in the pool. And this was like I think
all of fourth grade for me, like most of the
fourth grade for me, or at least half of it was.
So I've lived on the beach. Your girl has had
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a life, Joshua, No, I believe you. I guess. I guess.
My thing is when it comes to happen for me.
There's a fireplace, all right, there are cozy places to read. Okay,
I can stay. I can stay nice and warm, right,
And I'm not talking about hot, am I talking about
beach hot, sweltering, burning, my skin. I'm talking about a
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nice warm throw over me, right, like a little throw
or even an afghan on me. Okay, I'm I'm smelling
sent to candles. My question is, are you holding a
cup of tea with both hands? If I need to?
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If I must, then I must. I'm telling you, Ah,
you make me so worry. I feel like I feel
like even if I can get one of those what
were they call um snuggies, A snuggie in a cabin.
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Snuggie is definitely out here. As seen on TV. Come
throw a seen on TV was worn by reading in
a cabin. I listened, I have done the cabin thing. Okay,
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I've done the cabin thing with a group of friends.
Quote unquote, um, you know, listen. It was a couple
of things. Oh my god, the wildest thing was said
to me. There was a you know what, never mind
and so, you know what, fuck it because it's wild.
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So someone there was making chicken pot pie for dinner,
but like a big one for us to share because
it was like six of us. Yeah yeah, And one
of the dies in the group said he couldn't have
chicken because he and chicken had the same blood type.
So what was actually happening, was that this this person
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that was brought by another person his wife. His wife
has been married to a chicken this entire time. She's gone,
so she's out here, and that's that's messed up of
him too, because that means that he's really falling in
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love with the oppressor, all right, because that's hilarious because
he probably yeah, people have just been eating his cousins everything.
He didn't say anything at the table, you know, And
I don't even go ahead, and I'll go as far
to say it. I'll say it right now. And people
may be thinking I'm going too far, but I don't care,
all right. I don't know this person at all. But
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this this person that you're talking about that was on
this trip with you, that's a house chicken. Okay, Oh
my god. I saw Oh I saw this, and I
was trying to figure out. I remember we had a
recorded days. So one of my friends posted something on Instagram.
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I had to um let d let grind Josh know
about the greatest version of you. It's not the I
can do anything version of you. The greatest version of you,
it's the discipline version of the greatest First interview it's
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the version that has parameters. So I don't do that.
I don't drink that. I don't go there with these people.
I'm focused. I have a prize that's in fun m music,
all right. When I say music, when I say bars,
all right, the only thing hard or than these bars
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are prison bars, okay, And they're the prison of not
living up to your potential. All right. If you want
to stay locked up in mediocrity, if you want to
stay in the clink, all right, you want to stay wait,
don't let me laugh. You want to stay in the
clink of the mundane, all right? Do you want to
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stay in the pin of the practically not even here
all right? Or do you want to break loose? Do
you want to unchain yourself? Do you want to bound
yourself by grabbing a little bit of discipline, grabbing a
pinch of persistence, grabbing a whole bowl, a whole bowl,
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a whole bowl, you're ready, a whole bowl of can't
stop me, won't stop me? So we take the cast
stop me? Want to stop? But we grabbed the pinch
of persistence, We grabbed a little bit of discipline, okay,
and you stir it up with a with a with
a spoon, all right, and you know what the spoon
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made of, right, you already know what the spoon made up.
You already know. You can guess if you want, You
already know, no would all right, you're gonna take a
wooden spoon, all right, you're gonna stir. And when I
say start, sometimes people stir in life. Sometimes when people stir,
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they start until their arm is tired, until their wrist
is weary. Okay, but what you really gotta do? You
gotta stir until you know, until you know, beyond show
of a doubt, that it's mixed, it's seasoned, it's ready,
it's it's it's warm, it's not hot, you know. And
if it was cold, maybe you stirred it up fast enough.
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You got it hot again. Can't you? Bless blessed? We're
blessed right now? How does your brain do this? Do
what grind? You know? I wish, honestly, honestly do say?
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I wish I knew another way. I cannot imagine what
the person listening to this is thinking, because it's like,
is it beach houses are not? No, it's cabins. It's
cabins all day, nothing like a snowy little walk. You know,
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I can see your footprints in the ice. I can
see my footprints in sand. And you got that stay
at all between your toes are it's never coming out.
It ain't ever coming out, is never coming out? All right?
As soon as you get it in there, is it there?
What I'm looking for is I started out with two
sets of port footprints. Okay, I want to see that too,
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set prints. And you know what happened then is when
he carried me. You know, do you know why he
carried you? Because I said it was dirty? All right?
Are you saying, you know, like being barefoot? Josh? I
don't mind it, but I'm not like you. Hey, don't
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put that out there because you know people are never
gonna see my feet. So last thing I need to
think that is that is that half my shoes? Not real?
This thing is out here wearing a woman's side six. Look,
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I'm never telling you anything. I've seen your shoes. Hey, Look,
I'm doing my best, all right. I just don't like
I said, I wear a nine like I wear like
a nine nine and a half in men's you wear
I wear a nine nine and a half in men's.
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The reason that cabins best is because a cabin also
has the tranquility, all right, the tranquility of nature that
you don't get at a beach house because there's too
many beach houses and you've got people. Even if you
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had a private beach, which is rare to get a
private beach, you're still sharing that private beach with a
bunch of other people. Unless you have millions. That private
beach is not that private. Neither is the forest. No, no, no.
But as far as people wanting to go, people being
up in your business, coming close to your cabin, that's
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that's much rare. You can have a cabin in the
mountains and it'd be the only cabin for a couple
of miles. A beach house, there's no there's beach houses
where there's not another house for a couple of miles.
All right, I mean, good luck with that level of money.
Just I. I think that my thing is much more accessible. Okay,
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let's see. Hold on, we got the information a hundred
and eighty three bear attacks in North America between two thousands,
and they're over forty bear attacks around the world every year.
Oh oh, I see, I see, So how many people
died from getting attacked by a shark last year, and
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then how many people died from getting attacked by a bear.
The deaths of both will be much lower because some
people get slapped by a bear and then they run
and if the bear doesn't chase them, they live. Because
that's on this video of this lady. She was just
like hiking and then this bear came up and just
started like tapping her on her legs and just like
sniffing her. And ship, I think they know we're afraid
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of them, m hmm. So then they're just like, hey,
yeah it also, I'm gonna cook these people right back.
They can shoot you, like not now they're jogging. They're jogging.
I'm gonna be all right, I'm gonna be right. They right,
and then they just go through smacking white women in
the legs and then they stand really still and they're
like all right. And then they started because like this video,
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like he was tapping her on the legs, he was
licking her on the legs. Then then you started sniffing
the other lady and then he just walked away. Yeah.
I mean, I think the scream of the screaming also
lets us know that, uh, let's bears no where afraid. Well,
I get look, shark, something can hear when you're under water? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
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it would be wild if a shark caught a scream
bubble it his ear. Is that a real thing that
happens or the just some cartoon ship? I don't I
don't know exactly. Okay, this is gonna sound as a kid.
I tried We all tried it as a kid in
a swimming pool and you went under water and tried
to scream and nothing happened. I feel like, okay, this
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is this could be completely wrong. So I'm letting you
know right now. I'm not saying I'm write about this.
I feel like what happens is when you scream underwater,
the sound waves come out of your mouth like they
would if you were above water, right, but the air
bubbles aren't full of the sound waves. So it's kind
of like how we can How dolphins taught us sonar
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is because they're making those noises and the sound still
goes through the water. The sound waves still travels through
the water, but it's not in the in the air
bubble that came out of your mouth, so so they
probably could hear us if they were close enough and
if they could like hear well, But they're never gonna
hear us like that because that's not how like I
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would love if you could scream into a bubble underwater
and shark bites it and their mouth is just full
of screams. That'd be amazing, that'd be incredible. I just
don't know if it's the taste. I just like at
a shark body just some human screams in its mouth,
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Like I can't imagine screams taste good. You know, it's
not even how they taste, it's probably how they feel,
just a little rumbling. It was like, that's why would
it feels like you? Like I didn't ask that. I
was just trying to eat something and I felt was,
now I gotta kill one of y'all. I have to
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why would you do this to me? I'm a good shark,
come out here just swimming and ship. We get offered
to go on a trip with somebody, Like if somebody goes, hey,
let's go on a trip, where would you want them
to ask you to be going? Would you be more
excited to be going on a cabin trip or on
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a trip? I think it would be cabin trip for me,
because I know that with a cabin we're getting we're
getting way less personal. You know, I'm not. I'm not
I'm not going in and out of the of the
the house that we're renting while people are trying to
change into bathing suits and stuff like that. I'm I'm
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over here, just like you know, I'm gonna read over here.
Maybe you all want to read over there. Maybe we
play some board games, Maybe we watch a movie together
as a makeshift family, all right, Maybe we just take
a walk. We take a nice snowy walk. We enjoy
the silence, the sound. But you're saying that for a
cabin to be endurable for you, it has to be
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winter time, because you keep talking about cold ship. Yeah, yeah,
I think you know what I will say though, the
one edge and maybe you're into the spring as well.
But the one edge I give cabins over beach houses
in the regard of season is that a fall cabin
is just as amazing as a winter cabin, just in
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different ways because you're watching the leaves change and it's
not as cold, so you get a different type of
like hike or different type of wildlife around you. Like
you're still seeing the squirrels and stuff. It's just a
nice breezy season, you know. I I can concede that
the spring at the beach is also probably great because
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it's not as hot, so it might even be better
into a certain degree. So I can concede that fall
in a cabin it's probably great because again leaves are changing.
You know, we're about to go into the hibernacione, so
that makes sense. And like winter in a cabin is so.
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And then because the thing is like when you're in
the mountains and it's like summertime with all the leaves,
you really can't see the forest for the trees because
all of the leaves, you can't really see anything. It
was your it was your point, but you still said
it like you didn't want to say it. You were
(32:00):
like good, I mean it was it was a claiche thing,
but like you said it, like I had said it
nine times already, Like it's like this stupid point, I
(32:21):
gotta make it good. But no, So like if you're
in the like the cabin and summertime and all these
trees because you know, because they are you know, deciduous
and not of agreen. You know, they got all their
leaves and stuff, just being green and stuff, and you
know you can't see the other mountain because all the
trees and ship in the wintertime, all the leaves are gone.
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You know. Oh, there was this guy that started dating
you know, the mechanic years ago, and uh, we went
on one date and then he wanted to take me
up to like this mountain. Times like this time show
up in the mountains like for a date like this
been a weekend with him, and I had to be
like twenty two three m So of course my answer
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was like I want to die on my own time.
But like I sometimes regret not going, but I also
know I didn't know him well enough m hm to
enjoy a weekend in last month in a cabin a
second date. Yeah, you can't really beat yourself up for
(33:28):
that one. That's that's just part of life where you
were being cautious and it's one of those things as
well where like I look back at that time, even
in the pandemic, I'm like, man, I should have just
bet it all on real estate and then and then
I'd be I'd be in a different tax bracket right now,
you know, but we don't know what we don't know,
(33:50):
we don't know what we don't know. And plus my
mom was like, no, I just met this man. I
was just dying your own time. I was like yes,
and he was like, I'm not gonna murder you. And
I was like, that's what murderers say. Yeah, but to
be fair, it's also what people who don't murder say.
So it's like, there's really you're really tobatto to bottle
(34:17):
to murder tomorrow. But no, it's fine. His name's not
my husband. Um, I don't know who is, but it
wasn't that guy. So I can say that I've never
understooden you go to cabins in the woods, why those
people don't have curtains? Oh? That okay? To be fair,
(34:39):
he the I will give you that I've stayed at cabins,
and I was like, there should be some give me
the choice of looking outside, Like, don't give everyone the
choice of looking in, right, I'm not gonna lie if
I keep going to cabins, I'm gonna start bringing my
own curtains. No, I can't do it again. The last
(35:06):
half and that I say that had it didn't have
any curtains, and I was like, so, whoever rolls up
to the house and don't get me wrong, far out
so it's not like but crazy, but still, you know,
should have brought my own curtains. She brought my own curtain.
I gotta brought extra sheets and just throwing them up
that the windows are so big and they're so high.
(35:28):
There's never a ladder, so I'm like, I don't need
to go all the way down. I just needed to
go above my head. It is the wildest thing. But
you know what, always has curtains? What beach house, baby
boy always has curtains, always has curtains, might even have shutters.
(35:49):
You're not seeing in that house all day. Also, you
get them doors, right, you kick a cool breeze through
that whole. It's a nice time, okay, just being able
to be at the beach. And then oh let me
go up here, get a little drink and drink, get
a little beverage. Right, because should we tell the people,
you know what, let's tell to people. So I have
(36:10):
put together Wow, wow, what a what a wow. I
didn't think you were capable. I did not think always expected, unexpected, baby,
So listen, listen, I think, hold on, hold on, I
(36:33):
think we can figure this out. But we're two people
who are doing well. Okay, we got the words of
my mom, we got good jobs, multiple revenue streams. Okay,
So what if we find a way to practically figure
to practically figure this out? So it's we go on
(36:58):
a beach trip. And now we have to go on
a cabin trip. Okay, because I haven't been on enough
cabin trips to have a good reference point for reference, right,
and multiple ways to show you that you're incorrect, So
like I need, but you have to show me ways
(37:21):
that I'm like. You don't agree. Like you're going cabins,
You're going hard for a house made entirely of who
in the mountains, right, I'm going for home beach side manner. Right.
How do we test these things? Go on a trip, baby,
(37:43):
we gotta do a trip. I'm with you, I'm with you.
I'm just saying I think that there's going to come
a point where the people listening have to ask themselves.
We have to ask ourselves. Do you go for, like, um,
a fun and loose summer or spring or super cozy
(38:08):
fall or winter? And I think you can beat But
the thing is, it's curling up with a book, sitting
up chilling in the cut. You don't forget the board games.
Don't forget the board games. You can do board games
at the beach. You can do card games at the beach.
You can have like outside you could do cornhole, you
can you know, toss horse shoe, you do all these things.
(38:31):
You can outdoor game it, baby, you can. It's a
different energy though, it's a different it's a it's a
totally different energy to everything that you do, whether you
go to a beach house or you go to a cabin,
because you know when you go when you go to
a beach house, you'll even see it. Spring Break is
a great example. You get the beach houses. Hey, nobody's
really trying to cozy, you know, everybody's trying to smash.
(38:55):
That's just that's just life, you know, that's a real thing.
That's that's what if you're going to, like if you're
going to like a beach house with your friends or
you're going to a cabin with your friends. It's like
we have like resorts and stuff like there's not really
like a lot of winter resorts unless you're going skiing.
And guess what happens at winter resorts. People trying to smash. Sure, sure,
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I think a resort situation is just people trying to
smash a resort situation. That's true. I just feel like
the the potential smash at a winter resort is a
little bit more coughing. I think it's a I think
it's slightly more this is gonna be the person for
the trip as opposed to like the beach is just
(39:43):
like ah, you know, it depends because if you're at
a resort and you're there for a certain number of days,
you it's like it's like camp. If we hooked up,
we go this is a two week camp. We're together
for two weeks. Now for three month camp, that's a
different situation. Well, look, I think this is a perfect
(40:10):
time to kick it to you, the listener, you know,
the listener. Have we made our points or any points
at all? Great question? Great question? What the fund have
we been talking about for the past what five minutes
at least at least did we help you figure these
(40:32):
things out? Where do you stand? Where do you stand?
Or did we do what we always do and just
tell you stuff so you know, tell us how what
you think? Is it beach, is it cabin or are
you like I don't like either one. I just want
to go to a lake. Yeah lake. I didn't even
(40:55):
think about that. I mean, yeah to me, it's just
dirty water. It's been around too long, right, at least
the ocean moves. This is new water every time. Ocean. Um.
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We're gonna try our best talk about it, or we
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(42:01):
what an attack on the black community. I'm made troller. Yeah,
Like it's starting to feel personal, it's feeling very personal
because I am somebody who've been a crabboy place before.
You know, we cat cat cat cat, we get it in. Baby,
you've never seen Josh Johnson break down a crawfish bro
The young man is from Louisiana. Don't sleep on Josh Johnson.
(42:22):
So I guess we should talk about shows we have
coming up. I'm gonna be at the Arlington Drafthouse December
two and third, uh with late Slarraby from America's to
Got Talent. And also I'm gonna be at Arlington Drafthouse
in a d C. And then I'm gonna be at
the Creek in the Cave in Austin, Texas December ninth
(42:44):
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the beach. Baby, I'm taking Johnson the beach. I am
gonna put this together. We are gonna figure this out.
Should we do or hold up after? Should there be
a part three? Should there be a part three? We
(43:06):
went summer, we went Windsor, and now were at the
beach in the Windsor. Look at God, I won't he
do it? Look at geography just working. I'm taking Josh
to the beach and then Josh's gonna take me to
the Montania's, to the cab on because I want to
see if this man is right. I'm gonna be under
(43:27):
all the blankets, Okay, I'm gonna be drinking two cups
of tea at the same time. Alright, I'm gonna have
a real book and a kindle and try to see
if I can beat myself catching up on my reading
fair enough. Arms are probably gonna just challenge Josh to
Juno games and bother him all day. You can lose anywhere, Okay, whoa.
(43:47):
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That's a whole lot, whold lot of feelings, whole lot
(00:43):
of emotions, whole lot of talking about very little. We uh,
we break down the things that are important to us,
not things that are important in the world. And today
we have a little bit of a part two. We
have a little bit of a of a revisit, okay,
because we we had talked a little bit back and
forth about some seasonal things that everything, but today we
bring it home with what I would consider the final
(01:07):
form of those things. Why people enjoy those seasons. Right today,
it's gonna be cabins in the mountains versus beach houses.
Get into it. How wrong can Josh be in two
weeks back to back? Okay, so I'm guessing that means
(01:33):
that you want to go first. Then No, since you're
so you're so sure, you're so sure, you're so positive
that I'm wrong. So I'm excited to hear. I'm if anything,
I feel like I have a front seat tell me
how wrong I am, so that I can tell you
how none of that applies. Go ahead, listen. Is not
(01:55):
that you're wrong, is that you're not right? You know
what I mean? No, No, don't don't do that either. Uh.
If you want you want to take me out with logic,
you got to do it. You gotta do it top
to bottom. First of all, when in the history of
(02:15):
you knowing me, have I always gone pure logic. I'm
just saying, you're saying how wrong I am? Like how
how I'm talking about in general over the history of
the podcast. M you see what I'm saying, Like, it's
not just to Jay, it's not just last episode, it's
(02:37):
it's every episode, and it's it's every episode. What do
you say? Listen, I'm just concerned for you you're concerned
for me, you should be concerned for yourself. All right,
Well you've had you've had plenty of episodes where you
did well, where you got the people on your side. Um,
and I think that maybe I think that maybe you've
(03:02):
underestimated that I make good points to Sometimes I feel
things that people also like, you know, talking about every episode, Yeah,
you make great points, but they're just not right, you
know what I'm saying. Like it's you make great points,
but you just don't win. It's like a debate. You
(03:23):
get points even if there's like a there's a knockout
and then there's like a t KO. It's like, oh,
you want to box the match because the footwork, you
know what I mean? So tell me what's so great
about beach houses? Well, I just I just don't understand
why I have to even just feel these questions because
it's like, first of all, it's the motherfucking beach. So like,
(03:43):
I don't even understand. It's like people are like, oh,
they're sad. It's like you sound stupid. Shut up. There's
dirt everywhere, sad. It's just a different kind of dirtt.
This is a little dirt soil, there's dirt. There's saying, Okay,
sand is the herpies of dirt. All right, it's gonna
(04:07):
get in and it's gonna be hard to get out.
You're not even gonna know that you have it until
you know you take your shoes off. It's it's a
it's a pain. No, No, we act like that saying
is this is this mysterious creature that goes bumping the night.
They'll just roll up on you and be like you
didn't you even knew that was here. What I'm saying, like,
now you know what the hell is saying came from
(04:28):
you into the beach, didn't you? But they're saying, okay, listen,
you have to if you don't know the secrets of
getting the sand off of you. Okay, you gotta let
the wind do a lot of the work. Okay, you
gotta shake stuff out before you put it in the car.
But also, when you met to the beach, you knew
you was gonna get some saying okay, this is just
part of the experience. You know, when you go to
(04:50):
a bar, somebody might spill a drink on you, but
you still go to a bar and someone supposed to
drink you like oh wow, this is crazy. But if
you're sitting in a golden car when somebody supposed to
drink on you, it's gonna be very unexpected. Look if
you were sitting at a golden corral and you were
upset about any outside forces coming at you and doing
(05:12):
any form of damage to your person, your belongings, what
you're wearing, then you are the one that's out of order,
all right. When you go to a golden corral, you
truly take your life into your own hands. Also, some
what some crab legs? Where the crab legs really worth it?
Do they have crab legs? I don't know if they
(05:33):
have crap legs. I feel like I might also be
confusing golden corral with a different place. I saw a
fight over crap legs. Was that a Chinese bouefire? No?
But it was a buffet for sure, And it was
it was people. At first, it was just tongs, a
lot of tongs like snipping at each other like, and
then a couple of hands, and then some tongs caught
(05:55):
some hands, and then some hands caught some hands, and
then everybody caught hands. Wow, what a song? Did you
know that we're out of crab. Who's we like as
a culture, like, as a people, like, as human beings,
the crab is gone? Wait what you look up? Um?
(06:17):
What what are you saying right now? So you're saying
we are out of crab? Like, I think all this
like there's a billion crabs that we don't have. I
didn't make this up as an article looking up on that.
I'm not. I'm not saying you're making anything up. I'm
trying to understand how much out of crab we are.
When you say, do you mean America saying that billions
of snow crabs have disappeared from the waters around Alaska,
(06:42):
scientists say over fishing is not the cause. Oh it's
I wish it was us. It's worse, that's not us.
So then so then wait, if you go to one
of these crab places and you order crab, is it
not crab? Well, we just I think we just found
this out like a month ago. So the shock and
(07:05):
awe of many billions missing from the population is worth noting.
That includes all the females and babies. The Bristol Bay
red king crab harvest will be also be closed for
the second year in a row. The agency's announced. Oh shit,
I mean it looks like cabin's just got a little
(07:27):
bit more appealing. All right, there's gonna be no crab
because I mean, come on, you gotta go to the
cold now. First of all, it's a snow crab. This
is what hot crab. Okay, you get, you get crabs hot. Though,
I'm saying if things that come to the beach are
dying off right, So if there's no more crabs, just
gonna be running around scooter scooting at the beach. No, no,
(07:50):
no, no no, these are different crabs. These are Alaskan snow crabs.
It's only the Alaskan ones that are disappearing. Yes, there's
only the lasting ones. There's billion of them issing. They
don't know where they're at. I don't know. Maybe they
just need to turn left. I don't know where. I'm
not a scientist. Obviously it was a theater major. But
you having a good seafood tree is one of my
(08:11):
favorite parts of going to the beach because I can
tell you, I don't know what black people are gonna
do if we're at snow crap. That's that's also my concern.
As soon as I heard it, I was like that
means the gumbo is gonna be lacking. Bro It means
the buffets are going to be weak. It means your
crab boils. It's gonna be uh problem. Yeah, we need
(08:34):
more black climate scientists specifically for this. Skip skip all
the other stuff. Even if we're gonna die in a decade,
go ahead, skip all that. Tell us how to get
the snow crabs back. I'll tell you what I'm gonna
I'm gonna help you out right now. And I'm gonna
tell you why. Cabins in the mountains our superior. You
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won't even have to worry about any of this duel.
Say you come to a cabin, you're chilling. No, this
is not a beach problem. This is not a beach
house problem. The beaches are a problem. The beach houses
are a problem. Okay, No, no, no, no, no, no no,
you can he no no, because I'll tell you right now.
I'll tell you right now. The beach house. Let's let's
(09:19):
talk about it for a second. Let's talk about the dangers. Okay,
let's talk about just the dangers. You are a beach house.
I'm gonna go to the beach every day. Oh I'm
so happy, right, sharks. You got sharks. Okay, you already
got the sharks, then you got the storms. You really
want to be there during a storm when you're in
a cabin in the mountains. Tell you what variables bears
(09:40):
are you saying? They're way more sharks than there are
bears eating people, attacking people, slapping people. No, there are not.
People interact with bears way more than they interact with sharks.
Crazy people on purpose. Yes, no no no no no
no no no no no. You are more likely to
get conge by a bead and get attacked by a shark.
People all ways use this shark equivalence. It's like, oh,
(10:02):
I get attacked by a shark. Ben you could have
got a car accident on the way here, because you
know people are provoking sharks. Does not act like that.
But also so you can't say, oh, you gotta talk
about bearcers, you're provoking a bear. No, sometimes bears ain't
here with the ships. There's let you know, I'm not
here to play with you. You should have opened a trash.
Can you knew I was coming? Stop playing with me?
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Don't act like the people get attacked by bears. But
it's also panthers. There's panthers. There's panthers, there's mountain lions.
There are very aggressive deer, like, there are way more
animals that can't attack you in the mountains, that can't
attack you in the ocean. So we're really gonna skip jellyfish.
We're really gonna skip staying rays. Were really gonna skip sharks, jellyfish.
(10:49):
You can see a jellyfish coming up. All you gotta
do is just swim away from the jellyfish. All you
gotta do is not run up on a mountain lion,
like like mountain lions run mountain lions up on you.
I've never heard of a person getting attacked by mountain
lion the way I have a shark. I feel like
mountain lion is the lowest on this list, is it?
(11:12):
I don't know. I bet you. Here's the thing I
will say. I can already concede this point technically that
I feel like we don't hear about them as often.
But I can see how people be going to those
national parks and be touching bears and rubbing up on bears,
and and then bears slap them and accidentally kill them. Right,
But that's still not a cabin though the National Parks
(11:33):
is not a cabin bear. So are we talking about
houses in the mountains or the mountains of the concept
as a label houses in the mountains because we're not
just talking about the beach right now. We're talking about
beach houses. Okay, so we're not talking about Okay, so
we're about beach homes. Yeah, beach homes. That's why I
brought the storms because I was like, guys, this is
(11:55):
this is great property to own in between hurricane seasons.
I mean, listen, don't tornadoes go to mountains? Do they?
I don't know, I'm a meteorolog. I feel like this
is gonna sound real dub. I probably gonna get judged
in the comments, But I feel like when the tornado
hits the mountain, the mountain just break it all up,
(12:18):
like it just it just it hits and it even storms,
but it doesn't like go through. It doesn't like hop
scotch up the mountain to keep destroying stuff the way
that it does on a flat land. Yeah. Yeah, because
tornado's gonna have legs like that, Like it's not like
a Tasmanian devil that's just gonna jump up and keep
spinning because hurricanes just go. Hurricanes go in a way
(12:42):
that like it feels disrespectful. Like I grew up in Louisiana,
so I've I've witnessed hurricanes just act like buildings weren't
in the way. Yes, but I've never seen like I've
seen a tornado, right because when we moved back to Miami,
there weren't any major hurricanes that hit while we lived there.
(13:03):
We moved there right after Hurricane Andrew, which devastated all
of South Florida. I understand like having a beach house, like, yeah,
it's like you're worried about flooding, you're worried about hurricanes.
But like when you live in a cabin, it's you know,
you have to worry about forest fires, you have to
worry about you know, snow can get heavy, snow can melt.
(13:28):
If there's you know, you can cause a lot of
water damage. I mean, there's different hazards that you have
with living in both places. What I can say is
that one, I don't believe to go into the mountains
in the summer in the same way that it is
pointless to go to the beach in the winter. So
we're still leaning on seasonal peaks. Yeah, because it's like
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the beach is the most enjoyable when you can, you know,
legs out, titties out, you're hopping in and out of
this ocean. Right. And then as someone who thinks that
a vacation in the summertime, it's only having a beach
house and a place that's not like I've been in
a beach house and like Atlantic City and I'm like
(14:15):
that wasn't like Old Jersey source situation. I'm just like,
I know y'all, y'all don't know no better. That's why
you think this is nice. Also, Yankee beaches are just
not great anyway. Where's the best beach to you? Oh,
I'm you're giving me a Caribbean. You're giving me you
know the like Marco Island in Florida is gorgeous, Dauphin
(14:37):
Island is pretty, and um in Alabama, like Gulf. The
Gulf is very pretty because it's like they're really clear
clear water. And when you go to like Fort lat
the like Ola Beach, Biscayne Bay, South Beach, like the
Keys are very beautiful. When I went to Turks and Caicos,
oh my god, that was fucking gorgeous, so you have
(15:00):
like a clear water sitch, you know what I mean.
But like also the good thing about be in the
beach house like that thing that people talk about, like
you know, truck, you know, having to drag stuff down
to the beach and you know, um the sand and
all of that. It's when you don't have to tote
stuff back to the car, it's a totally different campaign.
(15:23):
Like I had a condo on Tybee Island, I think
for my thirty tea. I think my thirty seventh birthday.
I think maybe thirty six, thirty seven, I don't know.
We just had a condo just across the street because
all the ones on the beach were like time chairs
and ship so we couldn't get in. So all we
were just across the street. And as somebody who grew
(15:47):
up going to Tybee Island and it was we were in.
We drove down for the day, or we would go
up to Hilton Head and we drove down and then
you spent on the at the beach. You have to
tote everything back to the car and then drive four
hour back to Atlanta. To be able to just cross
the street and go to the beach and then go
(16:07):
back inside. Was amazing. But like as a kid, so
when I was like nine, ten years old, we lived
in we lived on North Miami Beach, so like we
lived in this, we lived in the So you ever
see that show Sweet Life from Zack and Cody, Yeah,
that's what we were. So it's like we lived in
this hotel. We had the kitchen, the housekeepers would watch us.
(16:31):
German Touris taught me how to swim. It's like a
shopping mall on the bottom It's still there. Actually, it's
like a shopping mall on the bottom floor. And every
day I would just go swimming in the ocean or
swimming in the pool. And this was like I think
all of fourth grade for me, like most of the
fourth grade for me, or at least half of it was.
So I've lived on the beach. Your girl has had
(16:54):
a life, Joshua, No, I believe you. I guess. I guess.
My thing is when it comes to happen for me.
There's a fireplace, all right, there are cozy places to read. Okay,
I can stay. I can stay nice and warm, right,
And I'm not talking about hot, am I talking about
beach hot, sweltering, burning, my skin. I'm talking about a
(17:18):
nice warm throw over me, right, like a little throw
or even an afghan on me. Okay, I'm I'm smelling
sent to candles. My question is, are you holding a
cup of tea with both hands? If I need to?
(17:41):
If I must, then I must. I'm telling you, Ah,
you make me so worry. I feel like I feel
like even if I can get one of those what
were they call um snuggies, A snuggie in a cabin.
(18:05):
Snuggie is definitely out here. As seen on TV. Come
throw a seen on TV was worn by reading in
a cabin. I listened, I have done the cabin thing. Okay,
(18:28):
I've done the cabin thing with a group of friends.
Quote unquote, um, you know, listen. It was a couple
of things. Oh my god, the wildest thing was said
to me. There was a you know what, never mind
and so, you know what, fuck it because it's wild.
(18:48):
So someone there was making chicken pot pie for dinner,
but like a big one for us to share because
it was like six of us. Yeah yeah, And one
of the dies in the group said he couldn't have
chicken because he and chicken had the same blood type.
So what was actually happening, was that this this person
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that was brought by another person his wife. His wife
has been married to a chicken this entire time. She's gone,
so she's out here, and that's that's messed up of
him too, because that means that he's really falling in
(19:33):
love with the oppressor, all right, because that's hilarious because
he probably yeah, people have just been eating his cousins everything.
He didn't say anything at the table, you know, And
I don't even go ahead, and I'll go as far
to say it. I'll say it right now. And people
may be thinking I'm going too far, but I don't care,
all right. I don't know this person at all. But
(19:55):
this this person that you're talking about that was on
this trip with you, that's a house chicken. Okay, Oh
my god. I saw Oh I saw this, and I
was trying to figure out. I remember we had a
recorded days. So one of my friends posted something on Instagram.
(20:20):
I had to um let d let grind Josh know
about the greatest version of you. It's not the I
can do anything version of you. The greatest version of you,
it's the discipline version of the greatest First interview it's
(20:41):
the version that has parameters. So I don't do that.
I don't drink that. I don't go there with these people.
I'm focused. I have a prize that's in fun m music,
all right. When I say music, when I say bars,
all right, the only thing hard or than these bars
(21:01):
are prison bars, okay, And they're the prison of not
living up to your potential. All right. If you want
to stay locked up in mediocrity, if you want to
stay in the clink, all right, you want to stay wait,
don't let me laugh. You want to stay in the
clink of the mundane, all right? Do you want to
(21:22):
stay in the pin of the practically not even here
all right? Or do you want to break loose? Do
you want to unchain yourself? Do you want to bound
yourself by grabbing a little bit of discipline, grabbing a
pinch of persistence, grabbing a whole bowl, a whole bowl,
(21:42):
a whole bowl, you're ready, a whole bowl of can't
stop me, won't stop me? So we take the cast
stop me? Want to stop? But we grabbed the pinch
of persistence, We grabbed a little bit of discipline, okay,
and you stir it up with a with a with
a spoon, all right, and you know what the spoon
(22:05):
made of, right, you already know what the spoon made up.
You already know. You can guess if you want, You
already know, no would all right, you're gonna take a
wooden spoon, all right, you're gonna stir. And when I
say start, sometimes people stir in life. Sometimes when people stir,
(22:27):
they start until their arm is tired, until their wrist
is weary. Okay, but what you really gotta do? You
gotta stir until you know, until you know, beyond show
of a doubt, that it's mixed, it's seasoned, it's ready,
it's it's it's warm, it's not hot, you know. And
if it was cold, maybe you stirred it up fast enough.
(22:47):
You got it hot again. Can't you? Bless blessed? We're
blessed right now? How does your brain do this? Do
what grind? You know? I wish, honestly, honestly do say?
(23:11):
I wish I knew another way. I cannot imagine what
the person listening to this is thinking, because it's like,
is it beach houses are not? No, it's cabins. It's
cabins all day, nothing like a snowy little walk. You know,
(23:31):
I can see your footprints in the ice. I can
see my footprints in sand. And you got that stay
at all between your toes are it's never coming out.
It ain't ever coming out, is never coming out? All right?
As soon as you get it in there, is it there?
What I'm looking for is I started out with two
sets of port footprints. Okay, I want to see that too,
(23:55):
set prints. And you know what happened then is when
he carried me. You know, do you know why he
carried you? Because I said it was dirty? All right?
Are you saying, you know, like being barefoot? Josh? I
don't mind it, but I'm not like you. Hey, don't
(24:17):
put that out there because you know people are never
gonna see my feet. So last thing I need to
think that is that is that half my shoes? Not real?
This thing is out here wearing a woman's side six. Look,
(24:40):
I'm never telling you anything. I've seen your shoes. Hey, Look,
I'm doing my best, all right. I just don't like
I said, I wear a nine like I wear like
a nine nine and a half in men's you wear
I wear a nine nine and a half in men's.
(25:02):
The reason that cabins best is because a cabin also
has the tranquility, all right, the tranquility of nature that
you don't get at a beach house because there's too
many beach houses and you've got people. Even if you
(25:23):
had a private beach, which is rare to get a
private beach, you're still sharing that private beach with a
bunch of other people. Unless you have millions. That private
beach is not that private. Neither is the forest. No, no, no.
But as far as people wanting to go, people being
up in your business, coming close to your cabin, that's
(25:44):
that's much rare. You can have a cabin in the
mountains and it'd be the only cabin for a couple
of miles. A beach house, there's no there's beach houses
where there's not another house for a couple of miles.
All right, I mean, good luck with that level of money.
Just I. I think that my thing is much more accessible. Okay,
(26:05):
let's see. Hold on, we got the information a hundred
and eighty three bear attacks in North America between two thousands,
and they're over forty bear attacks around the world every year.
Oh oh, I see, I see, So how many people
died from getting attacked by a shark last year, and
(26:25):
then how many people died from getting attacked by a bear.
The deaths of both will be much lower because some
people get slapped by a bear and then they run
and if the bear doesn't chase them, they live. Because
that's on this video of this lady. She was just
like hiking and then this bear came up and just
started like tapping her on her legs and just like
sniffing her. And ship, I think they know we're afraid
(26:47):
of them, m hmm. So then they're just like, hey,
yeah it also, I'm gonna cook these people right back.
They can shoot you, like not now they're jogging. They're jogging.
I'm gonna be all right, I'm gonna be right. They right,
and then they just go through smacking white women in
the legs and then they stand really still and they're
like all right. And then they started because like this video,
(27:08):
like he was tapping her on the legs, he was
licking her on the legs. Then then you started sniffing
the other lady and then he just walked away. Yeah.
I mean, I think the scream of the screaming also
lets us know that, uh, let's bears no where afraid. Well,
I get look, shark, something can hear when you're under water? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
(27:33):
it would be wild if a shark caught a scream
bubble it his ear. Is that a real thing that
happens or the just some cartoon ship? I don't I
don't know exactly. Okay, this is gonna sound as a kid.
I tried We all tried it as a kid in
a swimming pool and you went under water and tried
to scream and nothing happened. I feel like, okay, this
(27:56):
is this could be completely wrong. So I'm letting you
know right now. I'm not saying I'm write about this.
I feel like what happens is when you scream underwater,
the sound waves come out of your mouth like they
would if you were above water, right, but the air
bubbles aren't full of the sound waves. So it's kind
of like how we can How dolphins taught us sonar
(28:18):
is because they're making those noises and the sound still
goes through the water. The sound waves still travels through
the water, but it's not in the in the air
bubble that came out of your mouth, so so they
probably could hear us if they were close enough and
if they could like hear well, But they're never gonna
hear us like that because that's not how like I
(28:41):
would love if you could scream into a bubble underwater
and shark bites it and their mouth is just full
of screams. That'd be amazing, that'd be incredible. I just
don't know if it's the taste. I just like at
a shark body just some human screams in its mouth,
(29:08):
Like I can't imagine screams taste good. You know, it's
not even how they taste, it's probably how they feel,
just a little rumbling. It was like, that's why would
it feels like you? Like I didn't ask that. I
was just trying to eat something and I felt was,
now I gotta kill one of y'all. I have to
(29:31):
why would you do this to me? I'm a good shark,
come out here just swimming and ship. We get offered
to go on a trip with somebody, Like if somebody goes, hey,
let's go on a trip, where would you want them
to ask you to be going? Would you be more
excited to be going on a cabin trip or on
(29:54):
a trip? I think it would be cabin trip for me,
because I know that with a cabin we're getting we're
getting way less personal. You know, I'm not. I'm not
I'm not going in and out of the of the
the house that we're renting while people are trying to
change into bathing suits and stuff like that. I'm I'm
(30:16):
over here, just like you know, I'm gonna read over here.
Maybe you all want to read over there. Maybe we
play some board games, Maybe we watch a movie together
as a makeshift family, all right, Maybe we just take
a walk. We take a nice snowy walk. We enjoy
the silence, the sound. But you're saying that for a
cabin to be endurable for you, it has to be
(30:36):
winter time, because you keep talking about cold ship. Yeah, yeah,
I think you know what I will say though, the
one edge and maybe you're into the spring as well.
But the one edge I give cabins over beach houses
in the regard of season is that a fall cabin
is just as amazing as a winter cabin, just in
(30:56):
different ways because you're watching the leaves change and it's
not as cold, so you get a different type of
like hike or different type of wildlife around you. Like
you're still seeing the squirrels and stuff. It's just a
nice breezy season, you know. I I can concede that
the spring at the beach is also probably great because
(31:18):
it's not as hot, so it might even be better
into a certain degree. So I can concede that fall
in a cabin it's probably great because again leaves are changing.
You know, we're about to go into the hibernacione, so
that makes sense. And like winter in a cabin is so.
(31:40):
And then because the thing is like when you're in
the mountains and it's like summertime with all the leaves,
you really can't see the forest for the trees because
all of the leaves, you can't really see anything. It
was your it was your point, but you still said
it like you didn't want to say it. You were
(32:00):
like good, I mean it was it was a claiche thing,
but like you said it, like I had said it
nine times already, Like it's like this stupid point, I
(32:21):
gotta make it good. But no, So like if you're
in the like the cabin and summertime and all these
trees because you know, because they are you know, deciduous
and not of agreen. You know, they got all their
leaves and stuff, just being green and stuff, and you
know you can't see the other mountain because all the
trees and ship in the wintertime, all the leaves are gone.
(32:41):
You know. Oh, there was this guy that started dating
you know, the mechanic years ago, and uh, we went
on one date and then he wanted to take me
up to like this mountain. Times like this time show
up in the mountains like for a date like this
been a weekend with him, and I had to be
like twenty two three m So of course my answer
(33:06):
was like I want to die on my own time.
But like I sometimes regret not going, but I also
know I didn't know him well enough m hm to
enjoy a weekend in last month in a cabin a
second date. Yeah, you can't really beat yourself up for
(33:28):
that one. That's that's just part of life where you
were being cautious and it's one of those things as
well where like I look back at that time, even
in the pandemic, I'm like, man, I should have just
bet it all on real estate and then and then
I'd be I'd be in a different tax bracket right now,
you know, but we don't know what we don't know,
(33:50):
we don't know what we don't know. And plus my
mom was like, no, I just met this man. I
was just dying your own time. I was like yes,
and he was like, I'm not gonna murder you. And
I was like, that's what murderers say. Yeah, but to
be fair, it's also what people who don't murder say.
So it's like, there's really you're really tobatto to bottle
(34:17):
to murder tomorrow. But no, it's fine. His name's not
my husband. Um, I don't know who is, but it
wasn't that guy. So I can say that I've never
understooden you go to cabins in the woods, why those
people don't have curtains? Oh? That okay? To be fair,
(34:39):
he the I will give you that I've stayed at cabins,
and I was like, there should be some give me
the choice of looking outside, Like, don't give everyone the
choice of looking in, right, I'm not gonna lie if
I keep going to cabins, I'm gonna start bringing my
own curtains. No, I can't do it again. The last
(35:06):
half and that I say that had it didn't have
any curtains, and I was like, so, whoever rolls up
to the house and don't get me wrong, far out
so it's not like but crazy, but still, you know,
should have brought my own curtains. She brought my own curtain.
I gotta brought extra sheets and just throwing them up
that the windows are so big and they're so high.
(35:28):
There's never a ladder, so I'm like, I don't need
to go all the way down. I just needed to
go above my head. It is the wildest thing. But
you know what, always has curtains? What beach house, baby
boy always has curtains, always has curtains, might even have shutters.
(35:49):
You're not seeing in that house all day. Also, you
get them doors, right, you kick a cool breeze through
that whole. It's a nice time, okay, just being able
to be at the beach. And then oh let me
go up here, get a little drink and drink, get
a little beverage. Right, because should we tell the people,
you know what, let's tell to people. So I have
(36:10):
put together Wow, wow, what a what a wow. I
didn't think you were capable. I did not think always expected, unexpected, baby,
So listen, listen, I think, hold on, hold on, I
(36:33):
think we can figure this out. But we're two people
who are doing well. Okay, we got the words of
my mom, we got good jobs, multiple revenue streams. Okay,
So what if we find a way to practically figure
to practically figure this out? So it's we go on
(36:58):
a beach trip. And now we have to go on
a cabin trip. Okay, because I haven't been on enough
cabin trips to have a good reference point for reference, right,
and multiple ways to show you that you're incorrect, So
like I need, but you have to show me ways
(37:21):
that I'm like. You don't agree. Like you're going cabins,
You're going hard for a house made entirely of who
in the mountains, right, I'm going for home beach side manner. Right.
How do we test these things? Go on a trip, baby,
(37:43):
we gotta do a trip. I'm with you, I'm with you.
I'm just saying I think that there's going to come
a point where the people listening have to ask themselves.
We have to ask ourselves. Do you go for, like, um,
a fun and loose summer or spring or super cozy
(38:08):
fall or winter? And I think you can beat But
the thing is, it's curling up with a book, sitting
up chilling in the cut. You don't forget the board games.
Don't forget the board games. You can do board games
at the beach. You can do card games at the beach.
You can have like outside you could do cornhole, you
can you know, toss horse shoe, you do all these things.
(38:31):
You can outdoor game it, baby, you can. It's a
different energy though, it's a different it's a it's a
totally different energy to everything that you do, whether you
go to a beach house or you go to a cabin,
because you know when you go when you go to
a beach house, you'll even see it. Spring Break is
a great example. You get the beach houses. Hey, nobody's
really trying to cozy, you know, everybody's trying to smash.
(38:55):
That's just that's just life, you know, that's a real thing.
That's that's what if you're going to, like if you're
going to like a beach house with your friends or
you're going to a cabin with your friends. It's like
we have like resorts and stuff like there's not really
like a lot of winter resorts unless you're going skiing.
And guess what happens at winter resorts. People trying to smash. Sure, sure,
(39:20):
I think a resort situation is just people trying to
smash a resort situation. That's true. I just feel like
the the potential smash at a winter resort is a
little bit more coughing. I think it's a I think
it's slightly more this is gonna be the person for
the trip as opposed to like the beach is just
(39:43):
like ah, you know, it depends because if you're at
a resort and you're there for a certain number of days,
you it's like it's like camp. If we hooked up,
we go this is a two week camp. We're together
for two weeks. Now for three month camp, that's a
different situation. Well, look, I think this is a perfect
(40:10):
time to kick it to you, the listener, you know,
the listener. Have we made our points or any points
at all? Great question? Great question? What the fund have
we been talking about for the past what five minutes
at least at least did we help you figure these
(40:32):
things out? Where do you stand? Where do you stand?
Or did we do what we always do and just
tell you stuff so you know, tell us how what
you think? Is it beach, is it cabin or are
you like I don't like either one. I just want
to go to a lake. Yeah lake. I didn't even
(40:55):
think about that. I mean, yeah to me, it's just
dirty water. It's been around too long, right, at least
the ocean moves. This is new water every time. Ocean. Um.
We just want to say thank you so much for
rocking with us, being great listeners, always hitting us with
(41:16):
topics and ideas and everything. You can check out Hold
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you're listening right now. But you can also tell a friend,
Tell a friend and see what they think. Maybe they
agree with me, maybe they agree with DULs say. Maybe
you can have your own arguments at home. It's like
a board game, but we're talking, yeah, and we're we
(41:38):
need to come out with the hold up board game
or app or any other ways to talk to people
about things that make us go hey, hold up and please,
please please If you have topics for us to talk about, uh,
We're gonna try our best talk about it, or we
might get confused. Start talking about grab lazy it because
(42:01):
what an attack on the black community. I'm made troller. Yeah,
Like it's starting to feel personal, it's feeling very personal
because I am somebody who've been a crabboy place before.
You know, we cat cat cat cat, we get it in. Baby,
you've never seen Josh Johnson break down a crawfish bro
The young man is from Louisiana. Don't sleep on Josh Johnson.
(42:22):
So I guess we should talk about shows we have
coming up. I'm gonna be at the Arlington Drafthouse December
two and third, uh with late Slarraby from America's to
Got Talent. And also I'm gonna be at Arlington Drafthouse
in a d C. And then I'm gonna be at
the Creek in the Cave in Austin, Texas December ninth
(42:44):
and tenth. And then me and Josh are going to
the beach. Baby, I'm taking Johnson the beach. I am
gonna put this together. We are gonna figure this out.
Should we do or hold up after? Should there be
a part three? Should there be a part three? We
(43:06):
went summer, we went Windsor, and now were at the
beach in the Windsor. Look at God, I won't he
do it? Look at geography just working. I'm taking Josh
to the beach and then Josh's gonna take me to
the Montania's, to the cab on because I want to
see if this man is right. I'm gonna be under
(43:27):
all the blankets, Okay, I'm gonna be drinking two cups
of tea at the same time. Alright, I'm gonna have
a real book and a kindle and try to see
if I can beat myself catching up on my reading
fair enough. Arms are probably gonna just challenge Josh to
Juno games and bother him all day. You can lose anywhere, Okay, whoa.
(43:47):
You have never beat me at Uno ever. Y'all, thank
you so much for listening to hold up the weekend
and we appreciate you. We love you and be safe.
God bless, God bless. And you have never beat me,
and you know put my name in the streets like
this is wrong with you? This has been hold up.
(44:12):
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