February 7, 2024 • 47 mins
Just because you're number one doesn't make you the best.. We gotta talk about Nimarata Haley.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Media.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, look, I'm making a time traveler disclaimer here. All right,
this is future me, which is about four days ago
for you listening, if you listen on the day this drops.
I recorded the following podcast like in December. Then the
year started and I was trying to figure out stuff
with Terraform Colbrew, which I'm out of money, so I
don't know how much longer it's going to last, So
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please buy merch.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
There is Terraform.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Merch, and I'm still raising money to try to get
and by raise money, I mean saving my own because
luckily I don't owe anybody or praise Lord God Almighty,
I ain't in depth for Terrorform because only owe myself,
you know, which is still a lot of money. But
still anyway, so this show you're about to hear. The
reason I'm still playing it is because I still stand
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by the ultimate point, for which you will see later.
The subject of this point is Nikki Haley. When I
recorded this, there were many more people to.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Be the nominee for the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I still we all nobody need to know Crystal Ball
to know that like it was going to be Trump.
Vivek was a side show Tim Scott didn't stand a chance.
And I've made some other points before about Nikki and
old Ron des Anthos. Anyway, a lot of things have changed.
One thing I would add now saying this is that
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again I still stand by the point, but the little
bit of credit I was giving.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Her I now have to completely retract.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
When on the first episode of this year, of this season,
I talked about how she admittedly how she admittedly admitted
you like that, how she admitted racism was real. I
was like, great, thank you, and that you experienced it.
The problem is she wouldn't go as far as to say,
as we still have a problem with racism. I get
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it because of who your demographic is. You're still running
in a Republican primary, so you have to have your
head in the sand and pretend like nobody ever did
anything wrong. So I get that except for a communist,
that's that's the only evil.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But then later on, not only did the sister say
we America doesn't have as racism problem, she went on
to say it never did outside of just how preposterously anyone,
I don't care how racist you are, come on fam like,
now you're just being ridiculous but the thing about and
this is going to be for most of my listeners
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not that hot of a take, but I think it
needs to be said. The dagger for me was, like
I said before, when she said her mama told her,
which might just be a coddle together story for the mic,
which I get, but just hey, your job's not to
show them how you're different, but how you're the same
fam That's that's assimilation. You're whitewashing yourself. You're trying to
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fit in by shrinking who you are. While it sounds
great at first that like, yeah, you know you need
to show like, dude, like you cut me open, I'm
the same person. The signs that Martin Luther King carried
it for the sanitation boycotts, when the signs of said,
ain't I a man? Am I not a man? I'm
a man, like I'm a human just like you are.
Like those are important things to do, But that's not
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what the way she meant the way that she was communicating. Now,
I can't get in her head, but I can get
in but I can hear the rest of the things
she's saying. What she communicating is I'm safe, you can
feel comfortable around you because I'll hide the things about
me that make you uncomfortable. I don't know if the
flag can get any MOPI root in that. And for
the record, your job ain't to show nobody nothing except
for to be yourself and expose them in you being
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yourself to the beauty and the majesty and the humongousness
of the world that we're in. They should learn something.
You learning something, They should learn something. Remember in the
I'm Not Black, I'm Oja episodes, I talked about the
one black man in the nineteen people charged in the
Rico case with Trump. How we as a community can
look at that man and be like, are you really surprised?
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I think there are some things that can stretch to
the full diaspora of people that Season eight Chicken Nimroda like,
don't act like you didn't know you was bending yourself
into a pretzel. Vivec the same thing Tim Scott did,
Like y'all act there is no way in the world
you thought you was different.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You really thought them white people was gonna accept you.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
At least Vivek had the nerve to not try to
hide his name like Nikki, that might be your nickname,
but Nikki yok Brown walks in the room first, And
why in the world would you think that that party
like people like listen, dog like when you're dealing with
folks that have already decided that eugenics is real and
something wrong with you based on your or that you
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are different than them, based on your color. They've made
that thing that's not true true by your actions. Yes,
take a DNA test, do your your your twenty three
and meters, which I did, which I think is really interesting. Congratulations,
you're ninety nine point nine percent, just like every other human.
But social constructs in practice are real. We are treated
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differently because of our skin. Why in the world would
you think you was any different? You really thought that
white people was gonna vote for you, You'd like, look, look,
you could sing they songs, You could wear their clothes,
you could you could change you addiction, Black people could
tell their sons don't ever wear no hoodies, you know,
always wear a suit, Speak clear, get an education.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You a nigga in a suit.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I just I don't know anyway, But on paper, she
they't black thought And this is and the reason and
part of the reason why I think so is because
she was actually down to act like she not different
than everybody else. All right, enough preamble, let's just ramble
now for politics. I am well aware that every world,
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whatever little subworld you live in, has their versions of
the mainstream and underground motif the super popular and then
the super obscure. The more you are into and prefer
the indie underground version of something, usually the more annoying
you sound to the masses. Because there's a reason why
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the big box number mainstream people is the fact that
they mainstream some of its money. Some of it's you know, marketing,
its resources, and others of it is because it just
appeals to more people. Listen, I watch Marvel movies. I'm sorry,
I don't know. No obscure comic book lord, I don't know,
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but I am well aware. These are a trillion dollar budget.
So the ones that can take their time to do
really specific, dope, niche incredible stuff, it's probably better. I'm
just not into it because I'm not gonna do the work.
I say this as a hypocrade because I'm like that
about coffee. I'm not pulling up to your little corner Starbucks.
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That's corporate coffee. I want to find a dope shop
with the single origin Yuruga chef natural process, you know,
the honey process. I'm looking at your espresso machine. I'm
looking at the poor over ball. I'm judging if there's
like coffee grinds around the thing. I'm looking. I'm checking
all that. I want to see all that. I want
to know what scale you using. If somebody say to me,
all my favorite coffee is pizza coffee, I'm like, conversation's done.
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But there's a reason why Pizza Starbucks is everywhere. Everybody
got that. You're gonna name me some band. I never
heard of the Stomping Elephants when I start talking about Inkybists,
and I'm sorry, I never heard of no damn stopping
Elephant And they might be a better band. They fan
base is never despite the talent they have, they fan
base is never going to match the fan base of Nickelback.
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Matter of fact, the last number one rock song on
the Billboard Charts, last song that was a rock song
was a Nickelback song.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So it is what it is, y'all.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yet, and still it's the Year of Our Lord two
thousand and twenty four, and still the only thing that
can parallel or even surpass. The polarization of our politics
is one question.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Top five dead or alive hood politics, y'all yo, good politics?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Rock all right, listen whether we talk in basketball or rappers,
and I'm gonna stick there because those are the things
that I know most about as to what I'm going
to take this show too. The top five argument of
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many barbershops and barbecues and if you among black men
or just men in general, which I think we are
so funny about, Like the passion for which we speak
about these things is it's it's pretty funny. I've recently
seen my homegirl Britney. She was doing this stand up
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and she was just talking about how man straight men
they just they're not really as straight as they think
they are. Because you could ask them about their wife
and they're like, oh, she's the greatest woman ever. Then
ask them about Lebron James and they're gonna run down facts. Listen,
the first one to ever do and when he was seventeen,
he did this. Like she talked about how you have
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nose lang to stand on when referring to like swifties
and a bay hive.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
When it comes to our sports fandom.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Man straight men definitely cannot wait to go to play
a sport where they all dress up and matching uniforms.
They get matching outfits, and they go to a place
called golf where for centuries women were not allowed. So
no girls allowed and let's all wear on matching outfits.
It's pretty funny. She's like, it's pretty.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And now Brittany is lesbian, so she could crack these
jokes anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Brittany hilarious because she's right.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's like, we go into these places and we wear
the names of other men on our backs, and we
ready to fight people over for profit organizations that we
make a whopping zero dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I'll own no stakes.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The Lakers have never paid me anything, and we wearing
their names on our backs, talking about we won this week.
You did not win. You are not a Laker, but
yes I am. Anyway, Top five, dead or alive. And
usually you find the discussion breaking along lines of generation.
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My dad trying to convince me that Oscar Robinson and
Elgin Baylor and Will Chamberlain were just unmatched. And then
you show me the high to these dudes and these
little TV shorts. All I can hear is the Harlem
grow Chotter's theme playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They'm running around.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And chest passing and one handed dunks that are just
I'm like, I'm sorry, there's just a generational problem here,
Like I don't see it. He telling me this as
I'm a child watching Michael Jordan, you know, jump from
the free throw line right, drop seventy three points on fools.
I'm of the Kobe era, So why you telling me
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about this other? Like, like I got to watch you know,
the NBA inside stuff like era, you know, the the
gold like the Golden Age, and I'm saying the Golden
Age probably because that's my generation.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So it's hard for me. Like and I'm from the West.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So if you ask me top five that are alive,
I'm gonna keep naming Lakers except for Jordan. He own
it now, you Like, I just there's some of this
stuff that's just like in the arguable, like you're not
gonna have Magic Johnson, You're not gonna have Kobe on
this list. You got magic at Kobe, Well, you gotta
have Kareem Abdulja Bark and then if you gonna go
old school, hell, the logo is Jerry Wes.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I just don't. I mean at Jordan. Of course.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Now I know all you Lebron sexuals are gonna get
real mad at me, and y'all listen to me politics
that like Lebron can do no wrong. They got stats
on like like right now, I was watching his last
game and they were like, Lebron the oldest in the
NBA to ever get five steals at this age. I'm like, y'all, like,
come on, fam, Lebron James the oldest in the league
to ever at this age tie his shoe with his
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left finger. Just Lebron said, like the man could do
no wrong, right, which is obviously how I feel about Kobe.
But again, West West, and we canna argue around time
you could bring up, bring up whoever you want to
bring up now, as it's hard to not argue Steph Curry, like,
I don't know, nobody would shoot a stroke like this.
So you find that it breaks along lines generation, and
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then lines of region, and then just lines of taste.
And they were just yelling at each other like who
won the battle between jay Z and nas like and
then here's what's crazy. You get a live homie trying
to argue with us that, like, you know, Future and
young Dolf and then you're just looking at them. Little
Weirdo was like, what, there is no way they're in
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the conversation with the people we talking about. But then again,
let me be real, because the OG's older than me,
will to this day say like the godamn see is
rock him? There's no greater rapper, And I'm like, I'm sorry, y'all,
I just I was too young for it. I get
I get his what he did for rap. I get
what he did for that, Like no one rapped like
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him like that. I understand. But then again, you know,
nobody rapped like designer. I get brought it at Lena
hit A cause it's Kenna Jasna. And some could argue
young Thug, like nobody rapped like Young Thug, like the
way he's taken fashion and using that weird high pitch
that he got and made it a thing. Like like,
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I'm not going to as someone that just loves hip
hop period, I'm not gonna argue with you top five.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's a stretch.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
But look as time goes on, how you're gonna not
have weezy, how you're gonna have weighing on it. I
don't understand how Kendrick is not in your top anything.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Coal.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You can't argue Coal like that. Times have changed, you know.
You can't be stuck in your ways and not have
brothers like that on there.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You can't. I mean, Nikki like you got like you
gotta have these people on your list. They now have
bodies of work that prove it now.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And of course these conversations are clearly and obviously subjective,
But there are some things that are objective because of
how long hip hop's been around, the longevity of somebody's career,
the success of their albums commercially or otherwise, like these
are verifiable numbers, the intangible of the effects on not
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just hip hop but culture as a whole. And I'm
gonna argue, when it comes to hip hop, there's really
the list is closed. Of the top five dead or alive,
it's MJ, poc Nah's and Big.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's kind of unarguable.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Now, Listen, these are not my favorite rappers, nor do
I think are the best rappers, but they're inarguable. If
we're just gonna say top now, the question is are
they the best? Well, now we need a rule break.
We got to talk criteria. The next question would have
to be, well, what about the specificity. Now, let's get
nerdy here. Now, when it comes to hip hop, your
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boy can get nerdy. The specific art of wrapping pockets
flow on TNDRAS topics. There are some things where the
Venn diagram is perfect. Somebody like jay Z. When you
go through his body of work, it's kind of like,
this is undeniable. And I'm saying this as like a
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West Coast I believe the West. It's kind of undeniable.
And Marshall mathers eminem same thing, absolutely undeniable. There's not
a corner in the house of rap or hip hop
that he has not mastered. I just you he might
be a meme now you know, of course it can't
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stand and pull it a hand seeing which out the
damn camp didn't I get it. He's a meme now.
But as the art of rap, I'm sorry, y'all. All
the way down to making radio sync like, there's there's
just nothing he can't do. Some people would think that
even my list of like the intangible, like not having
Snoop on it is sacrilegious, and that's that's.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A good argument. It's a good argument, but who do
you take off?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
These are things that ruin group texts, But when it
gets down to the art of rap, the caviare of it.
You know, you could prefer a hot dog over a
Filet mignon, and you could make an excellent hot dog,
but a hot dog is not Filet Mignon. There are
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rappers who are just chef's kiss elite, and it may
not be what you like. And a lot of these
brothers didn't really sell as many albums as the other guys.
I'm gonna quote jay Z truth be told, if skills sold,
I'd probably be lyrically a Tai lib Kwalie. Truthfully, I
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want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five
mil I ain't been rhyming like common sense.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I think Commic took that to heart and started making
some hits.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But anyway, the point I'm making is the skill doesn't
always equal the position as the top dog.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I wonder if y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Could pick up where I'm going with this politically, and
then sometimes it does somebody like a Ludacris. Ludacris skill
wise is pretty untouchable, right, But I'm gonna start getting
a little more obscure for you. Fonte from a group
called Little Brother el Zi Lupe Fiasco. Come on, y'all,
boy can rap. My personal favorite. One of my personal
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favorites is ac Alone from Freestyle Fellowship and my absolute
favorite rapper when it comes to stuff like this, ferroh
manche Go look up. Simon says, you'll know what I'm
talking about. But who has strange enough become the de
facto figure of someone who is probably better than everybody,
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but is never the choice. It's black thought of the roots.
He's probably the best if he really is, but he's
not our choice. I'm going to argue and prove to
you in this podcast that in this GOP race for
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second place, we've seen this before, where probably the best choice,
even if you don't like them or not like I Listen,
I'm not a I'm not a fan of none of
these people I'm about to talk about, but within their
space there's a black thought, and I'm going to argue
within this new twenty twenty four GOP.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Race, that's Nicki Haley. Let me talk to you about it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So, yeah, Nickie Haley, the black thought of the GOP
right now. But now listen, I'm not saying he is
like her or she is like him. I'm saying in
the sense that she's probably the most qualified out of
all these people, but she ain't gonna get it is,
at least as of now, what I think. You know,
I could be dead wrong. But look, I could be
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dead wrong. But before we get into that little update
on what had happened, was so check this out, man,
here's what's going on. I just got back from a
three day board meeting with this org. I'm on the
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board for a called Search for Common Ground. If you
know my history, you know that before I was on
a board for this org called Search or Common Ground,
I was on a board for this organization called Preemptive Love.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
These are peace making organizations, which.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Are peace building is a little different than like humanitarian
or relief organizations. It's definitely both NGOs, and they both
do an element of humanitarian work. But when you're doing
peace building, these are like ten year processes because you're
going into conflict region understanding that conflict is inevitable, but
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violence is a choice.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So if there are ways to create a.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Viable sustainable society that we're going to work towards that,
here's one thing I can tell you about the Common
Ground approach is that Piece is built at the speed
of trust, and the common Ground approach builds trust through cooperation,
yielding results that endure because they have widespread buy in.
They also have what's called a bottom up and top
down approach, which basically means you do grassroots and you
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talk to the government, and change really only happens if
you're doing both, if it's from the streets and from
the offices, and they have access to both. It's pretty
forty year old organization started by a journalist.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It's pretty dope.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Common Grounds or their teams are ninety percent local, so
like they're in thirty three countries every place they are. Again,
the staff is ninety percent local, so you from these regions.
And again these are ten years progress. You know, Piece
is built at the speed of trust.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So, and here's one thing they say, like they have
this framework that they say, these are the five vital
signs of a healthy society.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Physical violence.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do you feel safe when you walk down the street,
So like, do you feel safe when you walk down
the street. Okay, then we're doing good agency. Does what
you say matter or Do you feel like the system
is rigged? If you feel like the system is rigged,
you ain't. You ain't got no health polarization? Are you stuck?
Is there just a US versus them? In everything? Institutional legitimacy?
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Can you trust the news? Do you trust the police?
And sustainable resourcing? Would you rather invest your tax dollars
in the prisons or youth empowerment programs? Where your money going?
Do I trust my institution? Do I feel safe here?
Are the resources allocated fairly? Are my voices being heard?
Are there people being silenced? Or is there grace polarization?
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If any of those things are there, then you don't
have a healthy society. Which alarm bell should be going
off in your own ear right now, because it's us fool.
We don't have a we don't have a viable society. Now,
we got debriefed on some different things they've done in
different areas of conflict. They were in me and mar
and they made a reality show over there about a
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woman president. That's pretty crazy, and because you know, we
had a hard time with rape as a war weapon, right,
and there were no female females running for office, So
they started saying like how could we spark the imagination
of allowing like female voices to be heard.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's one thing they did in other places.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think it was Nigeria, they created a soccer tournament
with two feuding tribes. And again, now this wasn't Search's idea,
it was the locals idea, like what are ways we
can make we can spark dialogue among each other, you know.
And but ultimately they are in Israel and Palestine. We
got offices in the West Bank. We're working on relief
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and peace talks and humanitarian a that's happening right there.
So you could trust that Chiboi prop is involved on
the ground with the ORG. I'm a part of action
trying to make this cease fire happen, right, I mean
across the world, Like you know, across the world, we're
all like, the shooting has to stop.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But the question is what's gonna happen after they stop?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And get this based on mountains of verifiable, studied and
peer reviewed evidence. Even if your attitude is you are
only in this for the safety and security of Israel,
let's just say you that, like you're not worry about
past Ida, you only hear for the safety of Israel.
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What Israel is doing verifiably guarantees more terrorism. When you
just carpet bomb, when you respond with like a nation
nation's worth of army and destruction, you either solidify support
for the people you trying to eradicate or the group
you're trying to eradicate, or you just create more your
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birth they're making, their actions are making to There is
so much evidence of this anyway. So that's where I
was right before Christmas, sitting down with like people in
the trenches, hearing from the streets what's going on and
how it can be involved. I'll drop a link as
to like our website and how you can support we
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got I mean, we have a whole like merch store
that are products from Afghani and Iraqi refugees. You supporting
them directly, like we really in the trenches. You can
trust your boy props in the trenches. Now that's that.
Let's get to NICKI hate Nikki not being that girl name,
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which is a little bit of what I don't like
about her.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Also, you know, saying or Ted.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Cruise, your name is Raphael Okay, at least at least
if a vaik is down to say his name, you
understand I'm talking about Nikki Bento.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh Rourke Betho, you're gonna go with that? Oh man,
he's so corny.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, Now, the polls is talking if you could trust
the poles, just like you know when you hear stuff
like word on the street, like sometimes you could trust that,
sometimes you can't. I personally feel like it's almost like
a yop review. You have to feel really really strong
to leave a review, like you either really love it
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or you really hate it. But most people just go
in there and get their stuff and me.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But we all read them. I just don't know how
effective they are.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But the poles are saying she putting a whooping on
Santos and everybody else, and by whooping, I still mean
they just racing for second place at least as of
right now, Like this is a fight for second, which
is already just funny. Now, of course anything can happen,
you never know, but as of this point, she's surgeon
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in the poll. I think it's interesting to think about
why she is and have seen this before and that's
what the rest of this show is about. So Nimrita,
Nikki Rond, Juanna Hayley, which is what that sister's name
is you like rep your hood? Anyway, she plays a
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very unique role, not a very unique role. Actually, her
role she plays is a role why why I brought
up black thought. It is a role that happens actually
in pretty much. I mean, we could go on forever
as to the role that she plays in almost all.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Modern elections.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
She is what's called the factional candidate, right, And what
that means is this the vocab I said I was
going to give you. A factional candidate is the type
of candidate that appeals to a very special faction of
the party that's dissatisfied with the front runner. So in
other words, it's the person that don't like mainstream everybody
like this person, but you can see your little crew
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y'all into the obscure.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
For us as rappers, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like, I mean, I get all the club, all the
mumble rap stuff, but we in the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I wonte the lyrics. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So when you have a person like a Kendrick or
a Cole who pops up and I'm like, that's a
lyrical rapper. That person is like, Okay, they're an oddity.
They they everything changes when it talks about somebody like that.
But normally that's not the situation. The people that are
into like I said in the beginning, you like your
really obscure movies. Like Another one of those like moments
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that really happened is last year's Oscars The Everything Everywhere
All at Once, like Winning All that.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That was an indie film.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That made everybody happy because that was an incredible movie
and it was also indie and it was very artistically integral.
That don't be happening, right, So I'm gonna give you
some examples. Even when the strongest the front runners is
out front, everybody don't like Big Dog. I told you
Jay poc Nas, Big m every not into that. It's
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people that are like, look, they're still the number one,
Like Drake is the I mean the people that don't
like it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
People don't like him.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
There is always a crowd of people that's not into
the mainstream. So who are these candidates? Bernie Sanders against Hillary.
Bernie was a true believer, like y'all remember that, Like
Bernie bros. Like that was like a thing. But he
moved the conversation. People like Ron Paul moved the conversation.
Jesse Jackson back when I was a baby.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That was a thing. Jesse Jackson was not just the
first black dude to get on this thing. You understand.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm saying like he had like a real following among
like liberal Democrats, and Nicky nim Marita has moved into
this position. Now you would say to yourself, why the
hell would you do that? Or tell me a little
more about Nicky. So if you don't know who Nickcky is,
(29:53):
you know, well you should by now. But if you don't,
remember she was the governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
She was a lady.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
That was the governor when the Queen of Black Women
Reknew some baths climbed up and pulled that Confederate flag
from down to pole.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Y'all remember that happened.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
In twenty sixteen, and then Nikki Haley wanted a pat
on the back where she said, okay, yeah, you're right,
keep it down. It's like helf this why, I'm like,
don't get me wrong, this ain't a Nikki fan. That
brown woman actually like she actually allowed I mean, you
you in South Carolina, so you gotta really be talking
that whiteness it to be the governor up there? No,
(30:32):
fam Like, there's some things about your collective experience that
some of the math ain't mathing with you. But that's
not that's why I'm not a fan. But that's not
what I'm talking about here. Yeah, that line you gotta
draw if you're trying to run for a Republican office,
where you got to be like, I've experienced racism, but
racism isn't real, Like.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't understand how you go do that, But that's
what they be trying to do. But she death did
the bare minimum and agreed that that Confederate flag had
no business hanging out in front of your stay office.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Then she became, you know, the ambassador to the UN
under the Trump administration, and in her defense, she ain't
really talk like Trump. I think in a lot of
ways she didn't. She represented what we would call a
neo conservative, which is a dying breed among the Republican Party,
which is again a question as to like, why would
you do that? It would be it's the equivalent of
me as prop still putting out records that are like lyrical.
(31:28):
Who listens to lyrical? And I'm like a lot of
people listen to lyrical And I still love the craft.
I still love it anyway. So the neo conservative that's
like the foreign policy hawk, the person that's like, we
still believe that we are a shining light on the hill.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's our job to police the nation.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So we're rooting out communism and fascism everywhere across the world,
so anybody could get it. If there's anybody struggling who
need help. We ready to fight. Are we supposed be everywhere?
The ones that was like, we're gonna invade the rock,
We're gonna save Kuwait you feel me? Like that's that's
that neo conservative that's like, we got guns shit and
(32:10):
lower taxes and shoot guns. Of course, we're gonna send
money to Ukraine because Putin can suck it. We love Israel,
right like that neo conservative Trump Trump, them new Trump,
the new version and the new versions has taken over
that the Republican Party. They forty percent the maga Republicans like,
no nigga, they are historic or they are what we
(32:31):
would call isolationists. It's like, no, that's the whole America
first thing, like nation first, Like no nigga, like keep
that money here. Remember how he would say they not.
He would say to the to NATO in the UN,
y'all not giving enough. I want my money here, Like, nah, nigga,
your Ukraine. We try, we try to help you figure
that shit out yourself. Now they not giving foreign aid
up to Ukraine. They're like, nah, we need to take
(32:51):
care of our borders. Too many brown people here. We
need to kick out all these colored folks. So that's
that new isolationists like America. America ain't the only they
have to do in America. You got all these immigrants
coming here taking our jobs. Like isolationists. They mean just
us no new friends. And by new friends, I mean
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nobody melanated. I don't hear them complaining about no Norwegian immigrants.
But Nikki though Nikki old school, she''ll move like that.
These new Republicans is also like hard headed. They hard
headed on purpose. Y'all will call them extremists. They like, look,
this is the only way we move.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
In there is.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
They no such thing as compromises, weakness, nigga, no abortion
like they just it's just like build a wall. Like
they don't. They not pragmatic, not in old school neo conservatives.
They real pragmatic. They get in there, they wheel and deal.
They try to figure out what's going on, and that's
one of the things that's been an appeal to her,
especially around the idea of abortion, where she was like, look,
I'm pro life. That's for me and my house, okay,
(33:56):
But as far as like a federal band homie, like,
all right, you know you gonna need sixty percent of
the Senate. You're never gonna get that shit passed. So like,
let's find a consensus, let's figure something out. And she's like,
at least, like, can we at least like y'all talking
about prosecuting women going to get abortions? Like that's crazy,
Like come on, fam. Like so she's very much a
(34:17):
like I feel you, but come on, fam. So that
moderate kind of like, well, let's let's just let's figure
out what we could figure out.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Now caveat when I say moderate.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And reasonable, let's let's remember that that bar is very
low of what I mean by.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Moderate and reasonable.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So like, let's remember this, Like again, it's ain't no standpage, it's.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Just it's in relation to her party.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You feel me, It's something that y'all who in a
Republican party that's like, man, I'm not with all this
mainstream maga shit, I like, I like that underground y'all
messing with her.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
She also has oh I don't know experience.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
She looking at you other niggas like y'all ain't never
done this job, like y'all don't know what the fuck
you talking about? Like now in her defense she right now,
I don't agree with her conclusions often, but.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
She's done the job, my nigga.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like so in relation to them, again, if you're in
a room full of mumbo rappers, anybody can be an
incredible lyricist.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So if you're in a room full of people like
that that's on that stage. I mean, of course, of
course you gonna sound brilliant. You feel me.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And the way that she stand up to evake Ryn's
with cake, you know, like she not scared of that food,
and that is like music to a lot of people's ears.
She sound reasonable.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
The final question was the one I want to answer
right here, is like I don't understand why anybody would
run period, Like why would you? Why have you not
dropped out? You ain't the number one? Why would you
do this?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Know?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
With full well you're finna be second place because listen
the people I named why didn't Bernie Win, Why would you?
Why would anyone not try to be on the radio.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would you make music
not try to be on the radio. Why would you
not try to get a grim? Doesn't make sense? Why
would you do something to not succeed? Look at you,
(37:06):
Look at the Republican base. You like forty percent of
them as Trump fans. It is what it is. But
let's get specific. Look at the Liz Cheney book. Liz
Cheney's argument is, okay, let's examine that forty percent.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Though there's a forty percent.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Inside of that forty percent, there's a group of him
that's like, hell, yeah, the cement has settled, it's calcified.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
This is who we are. We are true believers, this
is our savior.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Let's go. There's another percentage in that group that's like, uh,
I'm just I don't like this shit, but I'm scared
to say anything because I don't want to lose. And
then there's another percent that's like, uh, he's kind of
just our only choice and until we get there's a
lot of things I don't like about him, but until
(37:50):
to convince me like that, like, show me somebody else
that could pull this shit off the way that we
need this shit pulled off, and I'll leave because like,
I really don't like this nigga. He's just our best bet.
So even in that forty there's a percentage. Now there's
a twenty percent of the Republican Party that's like, like,
we cannot stand this full and then there's the rest
(38:11):
of the forty percent that's like he's just annoying. But
the part that has blown my mind is that, like
the ninety one felonies hasn't changed nobody's mind. Like that's
the part to me that I'm like, y'all don't y'all
don't care that this he faced like sticking by go
to jail, Like y'all don't care. Now, the problem with
that he's just annoying people. One would think that they're
(38:34):
you could actually convince them. And what I would bet is,
again using the music thing, ask a jay Z fan,
do they like the roots? They're gonna be like, yeah,
of course I do, right, Like I mean, I mean, yeah,
you know, but if but Jay's married to Beyonce, nigga,
like if they come in in town, you're going to
that show, not gonna go to the root show you
going on. I get it. You could probably name way
(38:54):
more jay Z songs can than you can roots records.
Most people listen to more than one genre, more than
one artist, like you can like a.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Lot of artists.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
But the point I'm making is the danger of what
she's playing is the more pragmatic, the more she leans
into the old school neo conservative hidden racism type shit,
the more she stops appealing to that extra forty, she
may chunk off a few of the twenties she might get.
(39:25):
And then you got the twenty independents. You got the
twenty percent of America that are independents that are like, uh,
there's a part of Republicans that they would call them
Biden curious where they like Okay, yeah, I mean I
like a little bit of what he'd be saying. And
it's just I can't stomach this Trump. I can't go
through four more years. It is their possibility. But then
there's the reality it is most of the country don't vote.
(39:52):
Like I said on the Yelp review, you gotta feel
real passionate to actually leave a review. Either you really
love it or you really hate it. But that is
not That's what I'm saying about the polls. You got
to feel really passionate about this. When you have to
call some sort of utility service or any customer service
line and they say, hey, will you stay on the
line for a five minute brief survey.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Nigga, No, even if I hated it or if I
loved it, No, I'm not to stay. I got shit
to do.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I'm not staying. That's most of America. There are so
many Americans that just don't vote. Why cause they disillusion
They like shit don't work. Everywhere on the.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
News, especially if you're a Republican.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Everywhere all the news all you hear in is like,
well it's dumb, like it's it's already, it's already by it,
it's already Trump, Like what difference does it make? And
speaking of which, Yo, that's where Bernie messed up, and
where the Democrats are messing up right now, like they
have all these people come out and vote for Bernie,
(40:55):
like turned out all these young voters.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Think about this right now, the whole ceasefire situation.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Everybody under thirty who put Biden in office is like, my, nigga,
I don't understand. We didn't vote because we was like,
this is bullshit, but you sounded different what the you
were supposed to and you ain't delivered, So I'm not
coming out next year you want to vote for you again?
(41:22):
Forget it, bro, That's what they messed up. Maybe Nikki
can snatch them up because they was like, Nigga, Bernie
ain't do shit. Bernie ain't say nothing about the ceasefire
this nigga bien like, what the you just I don't
know whether you care about it or not. What she
is banking on is that chunk might actually come out
and vote, because again, they might be part of the party.
(41:44):
That's just like, I'm just I mean, she at least
she sounded reasonable. Again, I'm talking about they party. I
have found when people ask me, I have a lot
of friends that are in other musical genres. Like my
boy Chase Rice. He's a country singer, I believe it
or not.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
A man.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Drew Halcom, you know Americana dude. He played in the
Macy's Day Parade. We every once in a while exchange playlists.
He knows Biggie, he knows Pac I'm gonna send him
Jay Dillar, I'm gonna send them Pharaoh I'm sending them
black thought, and what they come back and say is,
(42:26):
oh shit, this is an option. I thought I didn't
really like hip hop.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
That's who she banking on.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
And lastly, I'm gonna give you one more example of
why this might be a viable strategy. Maybe she may
not win, but why do it? Let me ask you this,
what does Diana Ross, Jimi Hendrix, Katie Perry, Snoop Dogg, Queen, Nicki, Minaj, Kiss,
(42:56):
Chuck Berry, Brian McKnight, j Any Depeche Mode, Beach Boys,
b York, Janis Joplin and Bob Marley have in common?
Oh in Tupac and Sia and Kiss and Abba. They've
never won Grammys. They've been nominated, they've never won. I
(43:21):
need you to hear me again. Diana Ross has never
won a Grammy. You can argue Bob Marley because he
died young, but Sea Swing from the Chandelier, Lady Chuck Berry,
the creator of rock and roll, Diana Ross, Journey never
won Grammys. Just because you're the favorite don't mean you
(43:44):
the best. These people on this list, they shaped music
and culture as we know it. What was the point
of Bernie Sanders. We're actually talking about universal health care.
Climate change is actually on is an issue. These people
change narratives in a way that just being the most
(44:10):
popular can't do. But if you have the off chance
that maybe you might get it, because all of them
were nominated, they just never won. I'm not in her office.
She might actually have a plan. I don't understand. But
sometimes people run just to force the conversation, or they're
(44:33):
banking on the next cycle, because remember, this is a
whole party strategy, it's not just that person. And then
when you talk about like Koch brother money, they world shaping.
That's the way they thinking. Or you might be betting
on the fact that again a lot of people just
not voting, and like maybe you could get in there.
The point is just because you in front, don't you
(44:54):
mean you the best soap. It's my argument. He is
the black thought of Republicans. This is no distant black
thought who is arguably.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
One of the greatest, like argue, one of the greatest
rappers ever.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I'm just saying in their subgroup, she's actually the most
electable in the traditional sense because she even got Koch
Brother's money.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Like that's absurd, it's gross, but it's absurd.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
She got it, So don't take my metaphor too far
talking about he called her black. Thought, that's inspecting, Like, no, nigga,
that's not what I'm saying. But I am saying just
because you the favorite. So you guys learn something new.
Called a factional candidate, and they've been all through history
and they oftentimes have very real appeal. Rick Santorine. People
(45:44):
really liked him, like they have real appeal, you know.
Ron Paul was like he was doing great. Feel me,
but we shall see poor politics, y'all. All right, now,
(46:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, look, I'm making a time traveler disclaimer here. All right,
this is future me, which is about four days ago
for you listening, if you listen on the day this drops.
I recorded the following podcast like in December. Then the
year started and I was trying to figure out stuff
with Terraform Colbrew, which I'm out of money, so I
don't know how much longer it's going to last, So
(00:26):
please buy merch.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
There is Terraform.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Merch, and I'm still raising money to try to get
and by raise money, I mean saving my own because
luckily I don't owe anybody or praise Lord God Almighty,
I ain't in depth for Terrorform because only owe myself,
you know, which is still a lot of money. But
still anyway, so this show you're about to hear. The
reason I'm still playing it is because I still stand
(00:48):
by the ultimate point, for which you will see later.
The subject of this point is Nikki Haley. When I
recorded this, there were many more people to.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Be the nominee for the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I still we all nobody need to know Crystal Ball
to know that like it was going to be Trump.
Vivek was a side show Tim Scott didn't stand a chance.
And I've made some other points before about Nikki and
old Ron des Anthos. Anyway, a lot of things have changed.
One thing I would add now saying this is that
(01:25):
again I still stand by the point, but the little
bit of credit I was giving.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Her I now have to completely retract.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
When on the first episode of this year, of this season,
I talked about how she admittedly how she admittedly admitted
you like that, how she admitted racism was real. I
was like, great, thank you, and that you experienced it.
The problem is she wouldn't go as far as to say,
as we still have a problem with racism. I get
(01:54):
it because of who your demographic is. You're still running
in a Republican primary, so you have to have your
head in the sand and pretend like nobody ever did
anything wrong. So I get that except for a communist,
that's that's the only evil.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
But then later on, not only did the sister say
we America doesn't have as racism problem, she went on
to say it never did outside of just how preposterously anyone,
I don't care how racist you are, come on fam like,
now you're just being ridiculous but the thing about and
this is going to be for most of my listeners
(02:30):
not that hot of a take, but I think it
needs to be said. The dagger for me was, like
I said before, when she said her mama told her,
which might just be a coddle together story for the mic,
which I get, but just hey, your job's not to
show them how you're different, but how you're the same
fam That's that's assimilation. You're whitewashing yourself. You're trying to
(02:54):
fit in by shrinking who you are. While it sounds
great at first that like, yeah, you know you need
to show like, dude, like you cut me open, I'm
the same person. The signs that Martin Luther King carried
it for the sanitation boycotts, when the signs of said,
ain't I a man? Am I not a man? I'm
a man, like I'm a human just like you are.
Like those are important things to do, But that's not
(03:16):
what the way she meant the way that she was communicating. Now,
I can't get in her head, but I can get
in but I can hear the rest of the things
she's saying. What she communicating is I'm safe, you can
feel comfortable around you because I'll hide the things about
me that make you uncomfortable. I don't know if the
flag can get any MOPI root in that. And for
the record, your job ain't to show nobody nothing except
for to be yourself and expose them in you being
(03:39):
yourself to the beauty and the majesty and the humongousness
of the world that we're in. They should learn something.
You learning something, They should learn something. Remember in the
I'm Not Black, I'm Oja episodes, I talked about the
one black man in the nineteen people charged in the
Rico case with Trump. How we as a community can
look at that man and be like, are you really surprised?
(04:01):
I think there are some things that can stretch to
the full diaspora of people that Season eight Chicken Nimroda like,
don't act like you didn't know you was bending yourself
into a pretzel. Vivec the same thing Tim Scott did,
Like y'all act there is no way in the world
you thought you was different.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
You really thought them white people was gonna accept you.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
At least Vivek had the nerve to not try to
hide his name like Nikki, that might be your nickname,
but Nikki yok Brown walks in the room first, And
why in the world would you think that that party
like people like listen, dog like when you're dealing with
folks that have already decided that eugenics is real and
something wrong with you based on your or that you
(04:43):
are different than them, based on your color. They've made
that thing that's not true true by your actions. Yes,
take a DNA test, do your your your twenty three
and meters, which I did, which I think is really interesting. Congratulations,
you're ninety nine point nine percent, just like every other human.
But social constructs in practice are real. We are treated
(05:05):
differently because of our skin. Why in the world would
you think you was any different? You really thought that
white people was gonna vote for you, You'd like, look, look,
you could sing they songs, You could wear their clothes,
you could you could change you addiction, Black people could
tell their sons don't ever wear no hoodies, you know,
always wear a suit, Speak clear, get an education.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You a nigga in a suit.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I just I don't know anyway, But on paper, she
they't black thought And this is and the reason and
part of the reason why I think so is because
she was actually down to act like she not different
than everybody else. All right, enough preamble, let's just ramble
now for politics. I am well aware that every world,
(06:11):
whatever little subworld you live in, has their versions of
the mainstream and underground motif the super popular and then
the super obscure. The more you are into and prefer
the indie underground version of something, usually the more annoying
you sound to the masses. Because there's a reason why
(06:31):
the big box number mainstream people is the fact that
they mainstream some of its money. Some of it's you know, marketing,
its resources, and others of it is because it just
appeals to more people. Listen, I watch Marvel movies. I'm sorry,
I don't know. No obscure comic book lord, I don't know,
(06:52):
but I am well aware. These are a trillion dollar budget.
So the ones that can take their time to do
really specific, dope, niche incredible stuff, it's probably better. I'm
just not into it because I'm not gonna do the work.
I say this as a hypocrade because I'm like that
about coffee. I'm not pulling up to your little corner Starbucks.
(07:13):
That's corporate coffee. I want to find a dope shop
with the single origin Yuruga chef natural process, you know,
the honey process. I'm looking at your espresso machine. I'm
looking at the poor over ball. I'm judging if there's
like coffee grinds around the thing. I'm looking. I'm checking
all that. I want to see all that. I want
to know what scale you using. If somebody say to me,
all my favorite coffee is pizza coffee, I'm like, conversation's done.
(07:34):
But there's a reason why Pizza Starbucks is everywhere. Everybody
got that. You're gonna name me some band. I never
heard of the Stomping Elephants when I start talking about Inkybists,
and I'm sorry, I never heard of no damn stopping
Elephant And they might be a better band. They fan
base is never despite the talent they have, they fan
base is never going to match the fan base of Nickelback.
(08:00):
Matter of fact, the last number one rock song on
the Billboard Charts, last song that was a rock song
was a Nickelback song.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So it is what it is, y'all.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yet, and still it's the Year of Our Lord two
thousand and twenty four, and still the only thing that
can parallel or even surpass. The polarization of our politics
is one question.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Top five dead or alive hood politics, y'all yo, good politics?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Rock all right, listen whether we talk in basketball or rappers,
and I'm gonna stick there because those are the things
that I know most about as to what I'm going
to take this show too. The top five argument of
(08:52):
many barbershops and barbecues and if you among black men
or just men in general, which I think we are
so funny about, Like the passion for which we speak
about these things is it's it's pretty funny. I've recently
seen my homegirl Britney. She was doing this stand up
(09:12):
and she was just talking about how man straight men
they just they're not really as straight as they think
they are. Because you could ask them about their wife
and they're like, oh, she's the greatest woman ever. Then
ask them about Lebron James and they're gonna run down facts. Listen,
the first one to ever do and when he was seventeen,
he did this. Like she talked about how you have
(09:34):
nose lang to stand on when referring to like swifties
and a bay hive.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
When it comes to our sports fandom.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Man straight men definitely cannot wait to go to play
a sport where they all dress up and matching uniforms.
They get matching outfits, and they go to a place
called golf where for centuries women were not allowed. So
no girls allowed and let's all wear on matching outfits.
It's pretty funny. She's like, it's pretty.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And now Brittany is lesbian, so she could crack these
jokes anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Brittany hilarious because she's right.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's like, we go into these places and we wear
the names of other men on our backs, and we
ready to fight people over for profit organizations that we
make a whopping zero dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I'll own no stakes.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
The Lakers have never paid me anything, and we wearing
their names on our backs, talking about we won this week.
You did not win. You are not a Laker, but
yes I am. Anyway, Top five, dead or alive. And
usually you find the discussion breaking along lines of generation.
(10:52):
My dad trying to convince me that Oscar Robinson and
Elgin Baylor and Will Chamberlain were just unmatched. And then
you show me the high to these dudes and these
little TV shorts. All I can hear is the Harlem
grow Chotter's theme playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
They'm running around.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And chest passing and one handed dunks that are just
I'm like, I'm sorry, there's just a generational problem here,
Like I don't see it. He telling me this as
I'm a child watching Michael Jordan, you know, jump from
the free throw line right, drop seventy three points on fools.
I'm of the Kobe era, So why you telling me
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about this other? Like, like I got to watch you know,
the NBA inside stuff like era, you know, the the
gold like the Golden Age, and I'm saying the Golden
Age probably because that's my generation.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So it's hard for me. Like and I'm from the West.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So if you ask me top five that are alive,
I'm gonna keep naming Lakers except for Jordan. He own
it now, you Like, I just there's some of this
stuff that's just like in the arguable, like you're not
gonna have Magic Johnson, You're not gonna have Kobe on
this list. You got magic at Kobe, Well, you gotta
have Kareem Abdulja Bark and then if you gonna go
old school, hell, the logo is Jerry Wes.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I just don't. I mean at Jordan. Of course.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Now I know all you Lebron sexuals are gonna get
real mad at me, and y'all listen to me politics
that like Lebron can do no wrong. They got stats
on like like right now, I was watching his last
game and they were like, Lebron the oldest in the
NBA to ever get five steals at this age. I'm like, y'all, like,
come on, fam, Lebron James the oldest in the league
to ever at this age tie his shoe with his
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left finger. Just Lebron said, like the man could do
no wrong, right, which is obviously how I feel about Kobe.
But again, West West, and we canna argue around time
you could bring up, bring up whoever you want to
bring up now, as it's hard to not argue Steph Curry, like,
I don't know, nobody would shoot a stroke like this.
So you find that it breaks along lines generation, and
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then lines of region, and then just lines of taste.
And they were just yelling at each other like who
won the battle between jay Z and nas like and
then here's what's crazy. You get a live homie trying
to argue with us that, like, you know, Future and
young Dolf and then you're just looking at them. Little
Weirdo was like, what, there is no way they're in
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the conversation with the people we talking about. But then again,
let me be real, because the OG's older than me,
will to this day say like the godamn see is
rock him? There's no greater rapper, And I'm like, I'm sorry, y'all,
I just I was too young for it. I get
I get his what he did for rap. I get
what he did for that, Like no one rapped like
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him like that. I understand. But then again, you know,
nobody rapped like designer. I get brought it at Lena
hit A cause it's Kenna Jasna. And some could argue
young Thug, like nobody rapped like Young Thug, like the
way he's taken fashion and using that weird high pitch
that he got and made it a thing. Like like,
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I'm not going to as someone that just loves hip
hop period, I'm not gonna argue with you top five.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's a stretch.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
But look as time goes on, how you're gonna not
have weezy, how you're gonna have weighing on it. I
don't understand how Kendrick is not in your top anything.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Coal.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You can't argue Coal like that. Times have changed, you know.
You can't be stuck in your ways and not have
brothers like that on there.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You can't. I mean, Nikki like you got like you
gotta have these people on your list. They now have
bodies of work that prove it now.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And of course these conversations are clearly and obviously subjective,
But there are some things that are objective because of
how long hip hop's been around, the longevity of somebody's career,
the success of their albums commercially or otherwise, like these
are verifiable numbers, the intangible of the effects on not
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just hip hop but culture as a whole. And I'm
gonna argue, when it comes to hip hop, there's really
the list is closed. Of the top five dead or alive,
it's MJ, poc Nah's and Big.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's kind of unarguable.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Now, Listen, these are not my favorite rappers, nor do
I think are the best rappers, but they're inarguable. If
we're just gonna say top now, the question is are
they the best? Well, now we need a rule break.
We got to talk criteria. The next question would have
to be, well, what about the specificity. Now, let's get
nerdy here. Now, when it comes to hip hop, your
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boy can get nerdy. The specific art of wrapping pockets
flow on TNDRAS topics. There are some things where the
Venn diagram is perfect. Somebody like jay Z. When you
go through his body of work, it's kind of like,
this is undeniable. And I'm saying this as like a
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West Coast I believe the West. It's kind of undeniable.
And Marshall mathers eminem same thing, absolutely undeniable. There's not
a corner in the house of rap or hip hop
that he has not mastered. I just you he might
be a meme now you know, of course it can't
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stand and pull it a hand seeing which out the
damn camp didn't I get it. He's a meme now.
But as the art of rap, I'm sorry, y'all. All
the way down to making radio sync like, there's there's
just nothing he can't do. Some people would think that
even my list of like the intangible, like not having
Snoop on it is sacrilegious, and that's that's.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
A good argument. It's a good argument, but who do
you take off?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
These are things that ruin group texts, But when it
gets down to the art of rap, the caviare of it.
You know, you could prefer a hot dog over a
Filet mignon, and you could make an excellent hot dog,
but a hot dog is not Filet Mignon. There are
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rappers who are just chef's kiss elite, and it may
not be what you like. And a lot of these
brothers didn't really sell as many albums as the other guys.
I'm gonna quote jay Z truth be told, if skills sold,
I'd probably be lyrically a Tai lib Kwalie. Truthfully, I
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want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five
mil I ain't been rhyming like common sense.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I think Commic took that to heart and started making
some hits.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
But anyway, the point I'm making is the skill doesn't
always equal the position as the top dog.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I wonder if y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Could pick up where I'm going with this politically, and
then sometimes it does somebody like a Ludacris. Ludacris skill
wise is pretty untouchable, right, But I'm gonna start getting
a little more obscure for you. Fonte from a group
called Little Brother el Zi Lupe Fiasco. Come on, y'all,
boy can rap. My personal favorite. One of my personal
(18:05):
favorites is ac Alone from Freestyle Fellowship and my absolute
favorite rapper when it comes to stuff like this, ferroh
manche Go look up. Simon says, you'll know what I'm
talking about. But who has strange enough become the de
facto figure of someone who is probably better than everybody,
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but is never the choice. It's black thought of the roots.
He's probably the best if he really is, but he's
not our choice. I'm going to argue and prove to
you in this podcast that in this GOP race for
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second place, we've seen this before, where probably the best choice,
even if you don't like them or not like I Listen,
I'm not a I'm not a fan of none of
these people I'm about to talk about, but within their
space there's a black thought, and I'm going to argue
within this new twenty twenty four GOP.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Race, that's Nicki Haley. Let me talk to you about it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
So, yeah, Nickie Haley, the black thought of the GOP
right now. But now listen, I'm not saying he is
like her or she is like him. I'm saying in
the sense that she's probably the most qualified out of
all these people, but she ain't gonna get it is,
at least as of now, what I think. You know,
I could be dead wrong. But look, I could be
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dead wrong. But before we get into that little update
on what had happened, was so check this out, man,
here's what's going on. I just got back from a
three day board meeting with this org. I'm on the
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board for a called Search for Common Ground. If you
know my history, you know that before I was on
a board for this org called Search or Common Ground,
I was on a board for this organization called Preemptive Love.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
These are peace making organizations, which.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Are peace building is a little different than like humanitarian
or relief organizations. It's definitely both NGOs, and they both
do an element of humanitarian work. But when you're doing
peace building, these are like ten year processes because you're
going into conflict region understanding that conflict is inevitable, but
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violence is a choice.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So if there are ways to create a.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Viable sustainable society that we're going to work towards that,
here's one thing I can tell you about the Common
Ground approach is that Piece is built at the speed
of trust, and the common Ground approach builds trust through cooperation,
yielding results that endure because they have widespread buy in.
They also have what's called a bottom up and top
down approach, which basically means you do grassroots and you
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talk to the government, and change really only happens if
you're doing both, if it's from the streets and from
the offices, and they have access to both. It's pretty
forty year old organization started by a journalist.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It's pretty dope.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Common Grounds or their teams are ninety percent local, so
like they're in thirty three countries every place they are. Again,
the staff is ninety percent local, so you from these regions.
And again these are ten years progress. You know, Piece
is built at the speed of trust.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So, and here's one thing they say, like they have
this framework that they say, these are the five vital
signs of a healthy society.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Physical violence.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do you feel safe when you walk down the street,
So like, do you feel safe when you walk down
the street. Okay, then we're doing good agency. Does what
you say matter or Do you feel like the system
is rigged? If you feel like the system is rigged,
you ain't. You ain't got no health polarization? Are you stuck?
Is there just a US versus them? In everything? Institutional legitimacy?
(22:29):
Can you trust the news? Do you trust the police?
And sustainable resourcing? Would you rather invest your tax dollars
in the prisons or youth empowerment programs? Where your money going?
Do I trust my institution? Do I feel safe here?
Are the resources allocated fairly? Are my voices being heard?
Are there people being silenced? Or is there grace polarization?
(22:50):
If any of those things are there, then you don't
have a healthy society. Which alarm bell should be going
off in your own ear right now, because it's us fool.
We don't have a we don't have a viable society. Now,
we got debriefed on some different things they've done in
different areas of conflict. They were in me and mar
and they made a reality show over there about a
(23:10):
woman president. That's pretty crazy, and because you know, we
had a hard time with rape as a war weapon, right,
and there were no female females running for office, So
they started saying like how could we spark the imagination
of allowing like female voices to be heard.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's one thing they did in other places.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think it was Nigeria, they created a soccer tournament
with two feuding tribes. And again, now this wasn't Search's idea,
it was the locals idea, like what are ways we
can make we can spark dialogue among each other, you know.
And but ultimately they are in Israel and Palestine. We
got offices in the West Bank. We're working on relief
(23:50):
and peace talks and humanitarian a that's happening right there.
So you could trust that Chiboi prop is involved on
the ground with the ORG. I'm a part of action
trying to make this cease fire happen, right, I mean
across the world, Like you know, across the world, we're
all like, the shooting has to stop.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But the question is what's gonna happen after they stop?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
And get this based on mountains of verifiable, studied and
peer reviewed evidence. Even if your attitude is you are
only in this for the safety and security of Israel,
let's just say you that, like you're not worry about
past Ida, you only hear for the safety of Israel.
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What Israel is doing verifiably guarantees more terrorism. When you
just carpet bomb, when you respond with like a nation
nation's worth of army and destruction, you either solidify support
for the people you trying to eradicate or the group
you're trying to eradicate, or you just create more your
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birth they're making, their actions are making to There is
so much evidence of this anyway. So that's where I
was right before Christmas, sitting down with like people in
the trenches, hearing from the streets what's going on and
how it can be involved. I'll drop a link as
to like our website and how you can support we
(25:15):
got I mean, we have a whole like merch store
that are products from Afghani and Iraqi refugees. You supporting
them directly, like we really in the trenches. You can
trust your boy props in the trenches. Now that's that.
Let's get to NICKI hate Nikki not being that girl name,
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which is a little bit of what I don't like
about her.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Also, you know, saying or Ted.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Cruise, your name is Raphael Okay, at least at least
if a vaik is down to say his name, you
understand I'm talking about Nikki Bento.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Oh Rourke Betho, you're gonna go with that? Oh man,
he's so corny.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, Now, the polls is talking if you could trust
the poles, just like you know when you hear stuff
like word on the street, like sometimes you could trust that,
sometimes you can't. I personally feel like it's almost like
a yop review. You have to feel really really strong
to leave a review, like you either really love it
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or you really hate it. But most people just go
in there and get their stuff and me.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But we all read them. I just don't know how
effective they are.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
But the poles are saying she putting a whooping on
Santos and everybody else, and by whooping, I still mean
they just racing for second place at least as of
right now, Like this is a fight for second, which
is already just funny. Now, of course anything can happen,
you never know, but as of this point, she's surgeon
(26:54):
in the poll. I think it's interesting to think about
why she is and have seen this before and that's
what the rest of this show is about. So Nimrita,
Nikki Rond, Juanna Hayley, which is what that sister's name
is you like rep your hood? Anyway, she plays a
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very unique role, not a very unique role. Actually, her
role she plays is a role why why I brought
up black thought. It is a role that happens actually
in pretty much. I mean, we could go on forever
as to the role that she plays in almost all.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Modern elections.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
She is what's called the factional candidate, right, And what
that means is this the vocab I said I was
going to give you. A factional candidate is the type
of candidate that appeals to a very special faction of
the party that's dissatisfied with the front runner. So in
other words, it's the person that don't like mainstream everybody
like this person, but you can see your little crew
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y'all into the obscure.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
For us as rappers, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like, I mean, I get all the club, all the
mumble rap stuff, but we in the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I wonte the lyrics. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So when you have a person like a Kendrick or
a Cole who pops up and I'm like, that's a
lyrical rapper. That person is like, Okay, they're an oddity.
They they everything changes when it talks about somebody like that.
But normally that's not the situation. The people that are
into like I said in the beginning, you like your
really obscure movies. Like Another one of those like moments
(28:31):
that really happened is last year's Oscars The Everything Everywhere
All at Once, like Winning All that.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That was an indie film.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That made everybody happy because that was an incredible movie
and it was also indie and it was very artistically integral.
That don't be happening, right, So I'm gonna give you
some examples. Even when the strongest the front runners is
out front, everybody don't like Big Dog. I told you
Jay poc Nas, Big m every not into that. It's
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people that are like, look, they're still the number one,
Like Drake is the I mean the people that don't
like it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
People don't like him.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
There is always a crowd of people that's not into
the mainstream. So who are these candidates? Bernie Sanders against Hillary.
Bernie was a true believer, like y'all remember that, Like
Bernie bros. Like that was like a thing. But he
moved the conversation. People like Ron Paul moved the conversation.
Jesse Jackson back when I was a baby.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
That was a thing. Jesse Jackson was not just the
first black dude to get on this thing. You understand.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm saying like he had like a real following among
like liberal Democrats, and Nicky nim Marita has moved into
this position. Now you would say to yourself, why the
hell would you do that? Or tell me a little
more about Nicky. So if you don't know who Nickcky is,
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you know, well you should by now. But if you don't,
remember she was the governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
She was a lady.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
That was the governor when the Queen of Black Women
Reknew some baths climbed up and pulled that Confederate flag
from down to pole.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Y'all remember that happened.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
In twenty sixteen, and then Nikki Haley wanted a pat
on the back where she said, okay, yeah, you're right,
keep it down. It's like helf this why, I'm like,
don't get me wrong, this ain't a Nikki fan. That
brown woman actually like she actually allowed I mean, you
you in South Carolina, so you gotta really be talking
that whiteness it to be the governor up there? No,
(30:32):
fam Like, there's some things about your collective experience that
some of the math ain't mathing with you. But that's
not that's why I'm not a fan. But that's not
what I'm talking about here. Yeah, that line you gotta
draw if you're trying to run for a Republican office,
where you got to be like, I've experienced racism, but
racism isn't real, Like.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I just don't.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't understand how you go do that, But that's
what they be trying to do. But she death did
the bare minimum and agreed that that Confederate flag had
no business hanging out in front of your stay office.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Then she became, you know, the ambassador to the UN
under the Trump administration, and in her defense, she ain't
really talk like Trump. I think in a lot of
ways she didn't. She represented what we would call a
neo conservative, which is a dying breed among the Republican Party,
which is again a question as to like, why would
you do that? It would be it's the equivalent of
me as prop still putting out records that are like lyrical.
(31:28):
Who listens to lyrical? And I'm like a lot of
people listen to lyrical And I still love the craft.
I still love it anyway. So the neo conservative that's
like the foreign policy hawk, the person that's like, we
still believe that we are a shining light on the hill.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It's our job to police the nation.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So we're rooting out communism and fascism everywhere across the world,
so anybody could get it. If there's anybody struggling who
need help. We ready to fight. Are we supposed be everywhere?
The ones that was like, we're gonna invade the rock,
We're gonna save Kuwait you feel me? Like that's that's
that neo conservative that's like, we got guns shit and
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lower taxes and shoot guns. Of course, we're gonna send
money to Ukraine because Putin can suck it. We love Israel,
right like that neo conservative Trump Trump, them new Trump,
the new version and the new versions has taken over
that the Republican Party. They forty percent the maga Republicans like,
no nigga, they are historic or they are what we
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would call isolationists. It's like, no, that's the whole America
first thing, like nation first, Like no nigga, like keep
that money here. Remember how he would say they not.
He would say to the to NATO in the UN,
y'all not giving enough. I want my money here, Like, nah, nigga,
your Ukraine. We try, we try to help you figure
that shit out yourself. Now they not giving foreign aid
up to Ukraine. They're like, nah, we need to take
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care of our borders. Too many brown people here. We
need to kick out all these colored folks. So that's
that new isolationists like America. America ain't the only they
have to do in America. You got all these immigrants
coming here taking our jobs. Like isolationists. They mean just
us no new friends. And by new friends, I mean
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nobody melanated. I don't hear them complaining about no Norwegian immigrants.
But Nikki though Nikki old school, she''ll move like that.
These new Republicans is also like hard headed. They hard
headed on purpose. Y'all will call them extremists. They like, look,
this is the only way we move.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
In there is.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
They no such thing as compromises, weakness, nigga, no abortion
like they just it's just like build a wall. Like
they don't. They not pragmatic, not in old school neo conservatives.
They real pragmatic. They get in there, they wheel and deal.
They try to figure out what's going on, and that's
one of the things that's been an appeal to her,
especially around the idea of abortion, where she was like, look,
I'm pro life. That's for me and my house, okay,
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But as far as like a federal band homie, like,
all right, you know you gonna need sixty percent of
the Senate. You're never gonna get that shit passed. So like,
let's find a consensus, let's figure something out. And she's like,
at least, like, can we at least like y'all talking
about prosecuting women going to get abortions? Like that's crazy,
Like come on, fam. Like so she's very much a
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like I feel you, but come on, fam. So that
moderate kind of like, well, let's let's just let's figure
out what we could figure out.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Now caveat when I say moderate.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And reasonable, let's let's remember that that bar is very
low of what I mean by.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Moderate and reasonable.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So like, let's remember this, Like again, it's ain't no standpage, it's.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Just it's in relation to her party.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You feel me, It's something that y'all who in a
Republican party that's like, man, I'm not with all this
mainstream maga shit, I like, I like that underground y'all
messing with her.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
She also has oh I don't know experience.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
She looking at you other niggas like y'all ain't never
done this job, like y'all don't know what the fuck
you talking about? Like now in her defense she right now,
I don't agree with her conclusions often, but.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
She's done the job, my nigga.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like so in relation to them, again, if you're in
a room full of mumbo rappers, anybody can be an
incredible lyricist.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So if you're in a room full of people like
that that's on that stage. I mean, of course, of
course you gonna sound brilliant. You feel me.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And the way that she stand up to evake Ryn's
with cake, you know, like she not scared of that food,
and that is like music to a lot of people's ears.
She sound reasonable.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
The final question was the one I want to answer
right here, is like I don't understand why anybody would
run period, Like why would you? Why have you not
dropped out? You ain't the number one? Why would you
do this?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Know?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
With full well you're finna be second place because listen
the people I named why didn't Bernie Win, Why would you?
Why would anyone not try to be on the radio.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would you make music
not try to be on the radio. Why would you
not try to get a grim? Doesn't make sense? Why
would you do something to not succeed? Look at you,
(37:06):
Look at the Republican base. You like forty percent of
them as Trump fans. It is what it is. But
let's get specific. Look at the Liz Cheney book. Liz
Cheney's argument is, okay, let's examine that forty percent.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Though there's a forty percent.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Inside of that forty percent, there's a group of him
that's like, hell, yeah, the cement has settled, it's calcified.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
This is who we are. We are true believers, this
is our savior.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Let's go. There's another percentage in that group that's like, uh,
I'm just I don't like this shit, but I'm scared
to say anything because I don't want to lose. And
then there's another percent that's like, uh, he's kind of
just our only choice and until we get there's a
lot of things I don't like about him, but until
(37:50):
to convince me like that, like, show me somebody else
that could pull this shit off the way that we
need this shit pulled off, and I'll leave because like,
I really don't like this nigga. He's just our best bet.
So even in that forty there's a percentage. Now there's
a twenty percent of the Republican Party that's like, like,
we cannot stand this full and then there's the rest
(38:11):
of the forty percent that's like he's just annoying. But
the part that has blown my mind is that, like
the ninety one felonies hasn't changed nobody's mind. Like that's
the part to me that I'm like, y'all don't y'all
don't care that this he faced like sticking by go
to jail, Like y'all don't care. Now, the problem with
that he's just annoying people. One would think that they're
(38:34):
you could actually convince them. And what I would bet is,
again using the music thing, ask a jay Z fan,
do they like the roots? They're gonna be like, yeah,
of course I do, right, Like I mean, I mean, yeah,
you know, but if but Jay's married to Beyonce, nigga,
like if they come in in town, you're going to
that show, not gonna go to the root show you
going on. I get it. You could probably name way
(38:54):
more jay Z songs can than you can roots records.
Most people listen to more than one genre, more than
one artist, like you can like a.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Lot of artists.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
But the point I'm making is the danger of what
she's playing is the more pragmatic, the more she leans
into the old school neo conservative hidden racism type shit,
the more she stops appealing to that extra forty, she
may chunk off a few of the twenties she might get.
(39:25):
And then you got the twenty independents. You got the
twenty percent of America that are independents that are like, uh,
there's a part of Republicans that they would call them
Biden curious where they like Okay, yeah, I mean I
like a little bit of what he'd be saying. And
it's just I can't stomach this Trump. I can't go
through four more years. It is their possibility. But then
there's the reality it is most of the country don't vote.
(39:52):
Like I said on the Yelp review, you gotta feel
real passionate to actually leave a review. Either you really
love it or you really hate it. But that is
not That's what I'm saying about the polls. You got
to feel really passionate about this. When you have to
call some sort of utility service or any customer service
line and they say, hey, will you stay on the
line for a five minute brief survey.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Nigga, No, even if I hated it or if I
loved it, No, I'm not to stay. I got shit
to do.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I'm not staying. That's most of America. There are so
many Americans that just don't vote. Why cause they disillusion
They like shit don't work. Everywhere on the.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
News, especially if you're a Republican.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Everywhere all the news all you hear in is like,
well it's dumb, like it's it's already, it's already by it,
it's already Trump, Like what difference does it make? And
speaking of which, Yo, that's where Bernie messed up, and
where the Democrats are messing up right now, like they
have all these people come out and vote for Bernie,
(40:55):
like turned out all these young voters.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Think about this right now, the whole ceasefire situation.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Everybody under thirty who put Biden in office is like, my, nigga,
I don't understand. We didn't vote because we was like,
this is bullshit, but you sounded different what the you
were supposed to and you ain't delivered, So I'm not
coming out next year you want to vote for you again?
(41:22):
Forget it, bro, That's what they messed up. Maybe Nikki
can snatch them up because they was like, Nigga, Bernie
ain't do shit. Bernie ain't say nothing about the ceasefire
this nigga bien like, what the you just I don't
know whether you care about it or not. What she
is banking on is that chunk might actually come out
and vote, because again, they might be part of the party.
(41:44):
That's just like, I'm just I mean, she at least
she sounded reasonable. Again, I'm talking about they party. I
have found when people ask me, I have a lot
of friends that are in other musical genres. Like my
boy Chase Rice. He's a country singer, I believe it
or not.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
A man.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Drew Halcom, you know Americana dude. He played in the
Macy's Day Parade. We every once in a while exchange playlists.
He knows Biggie, he knows Pac I'm gonna send him
Jay Dillar, I'm gonna send them Pharaoh I'm sending them
black thought, and what they come back and say is,
(42:26):
oh shit, this is an option. I thought I didn't
really like hip hop.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
That's who she banking on.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
And lastly, I'm gonna give you one more example of
why this might be a viable strategy. Maybe she may
not win, but why do it? Let me ask you this,
what does Diana Ross, Jimi Hendrix, Katie Perry, Snoop Dogg, Queen, Nicki, Minaj, Kiss,
(42:56):
Chuck Berry, Brian McKnight, j Any Depeche Mode, Beach Boys,
b York, Janis Joplin and Bob Marley have in common?
Oh in Tupac and Sia and Kiss and Abba. They've
never won Grammys. They've been nominated, they've never won. I
(43:21):
need you to hear me again. Diana Ross has never
won a Grammy. You can argue Bob Marley because he
died young, but Sea Swing from the Chandelier, Lady Chuck Berry,
the creator of rock and roll, Diana Ross, Journey never
won Grammys. Just because you're the favorite don't mean you
(43:44):
the best. These people on this list, they shaped music
and culture as we know it. What was the point
of Bernie Sanders. We're actually talking about universal health care.
Climate change is actually on is an issue. These people
change narratives in a way that just being the most
(44:10):
popular can't do. But if you have the off chance
that maybe you might get it, because all of them
were nominated, they just never won. I'm not in her office.
She might actually have a plan. I don't understand. But
sometimes people run just to force the conversation, or they're
(44:33):
banking on the next cycle, because remember, this is a
whole party strategy, it's not just that person. And then
when you talk about like Koch brother money, they world shaping.
That's the way they thinking. Or you might be betting
on the fact that again a lot of people just
not voting, and like maybe you could get in there.
The point is just because you in front, don't you
(44:54):
mean you the best soap. It's my argument. He is
the black thought of Republicans. This is no distant black
thought who is arguably.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
One of the greatest, like argue, one of the greatest
rappers ever.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I'm just saying in their subgroup, she's actually the most
electable in the traditional sense because she even got Koch
Brother's money.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Like that's absurd, it's gross, but it's absurd.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
She got it, So don't take my metaphor too far
talking about he called her black. Thought, that's inspecting, Like, no, nigga,
that's not what I'm saying. But I am saying just
because you the favorite. So you guys learn something new.
Called a factional candidate, and they've been all through history
and they oftentimes have very real appeal. Rick Santorine. People
(45:44):
really liked him, like they have real appeal, you know.
Ron Paul was like he was doing great. Feel me,
but we shall see poor politics, y'all. All right, now,
(46:10):
don't you hit stop on this pod. You better listen
to these credits. I need you to finish this thing
so I can get the download numbers. Okay, so don't
stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded in East
Lost Boyle Heights by your boy Propaganda. Tap in with
me at prop hip hop dot com. If you're in
(46:30):
the Coldbrew coffee we got terraform Coldbrew. You can go
there dot com and use promo code hood get twenty
percent off get yourself some coffee. This was mixed, edited
and mastered by your boy Matt Alsowski killing the Beast Softly.
Check out his website Matdowsowski dot com.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I'm a spell it for you because I know M.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
A T T O S O W s Ki dot
com Matdowsowski dot com. He got more music and stuff
like that on there, so gonna check out The heat.
Politics is a member of cool Zone Media, Executive produced
by Sophie Lichterman, part of the iHeartMedia podcast network. Your
(47:12):
theme music and scoring is also by the one and
Noble mattow Sowski. Still killing the beats softly, so listen.
Don't let nobody lie to you. If you understand urban living,
you understand politics. These people is not smarter than you.
We'll see y'all next week.
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