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August 6 2023. the Montgomery River boat brawl! oh and Jason Aldean.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And listen. The country boys said, try this in a
small town. I got, yall, small town cuz fade in
the wild. Fade in the wild. Uh, black folks, fade
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in the wild. Lift every chair, y'all. I think we
might have a new black holiday hood politics, y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Bade in the wild, Fade in the wild.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
All right. August sixth, twenty twenty three, We'll go down
as the Boston Tea Party for black people, which, as
a not so fun fact, you know, the first person
to get shot that sparked the Boston Tea Party was
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Crispus Atticus, who was also a black man. We've been
a part of this history the whole time, y'all. First, okay,
so welcome to her politics. You may not know what
I'm talking about. I don't know why, because I waited
a while before I started talking about this, and by
waiting a while, I met I already had a lot
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of other episodes recorded. And you know, when you wait,
you get more, you get more details and facts in
So I'm gonna talk about the Montgomery rumble. You know
what I'm saying, The fade in the water. You feel me.
But before I do, I'd like to apologize for my
voice if I sound a little raspy. It's been a
pretty crazy week, as you may or may not know,
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But I record on Mondays and on every first Sunday
of the month, I host the club Real Ones out
here in Long Beach, California, and this was just a
really big one. So my voice is pretty hoarse because
it was pretty epic. And then I had a coffee
event right after that, and I actually got to perform
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to night. Anyway, I couldn't not record this even though
I'm all, I'm all raspy. But anyway, for recap of
what I'm talking about, So on August sixth, twenty twenty three,
which I want you to remember for the rest of
your life, on a doc in Montgomery, Alabama. Now, to
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color this and to understand why this is so specific,
you have to as I'm telling the story, I'm also
going to add sort of historical things to it, and
then I'll move into the points I'm trying to make
for the show. So Montgomery, Alabama was already played a big,
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humongous role in the civil rights movement, Like how many
of the bus boycotts, you know what I'm saying, Almost
all the most famous stories you know about doctor King
took place down in Montgomery. Now remember he lived in Atlanta,
of course, and you know where he got assassinated was
in Memphis. But Montgomery was like headquarters. You know what
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I'm saying. That's where you get the bus boycotts that
you know, sort of sparked the civil rights movement in
some ways. Like that's down there. So there's a lot
of history. This particular doc boat dock was. I mean,
slaves were delivered here. This is a place that has
many old souls and many of spirits and some horrible
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memories on there. Now fast forward to now it's a
regular dock where people take their pontoons and riverboats and
you go out on the river boat, go drink, go
hang out. It's you know, it's hot as hale in Alabama.
I don't know if you ever been down there. Hot
as hal So getting out on the water is something
that people do all the time. Now, I also want
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you to remember that there are schools, high schools down
there in Alabama, maybe not Montgomery, because for Alabama, Montgomery, Birmingham, Biloxi,
Mobile are the air quotes big cities, not big compared
to where I'm from, but they're the big cities down there.
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But outside of those areas, there are high schools that
didn't desegregate until two thy ten. Fam Like, there's a
high school down there. I wrapped about it named Robert E.
Lee High School. Like it's name after the Confederates. So
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it's almost like slavery ended last month for them, you
know what I'm saying. The civil rights movement just ended
last week. Like, so there's that type of history down there. Now,
this is not a slight to anyone that lives there.
I'm just saying, this is just the culture. Like you
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can't just take no country road down there. It's they different,
you know what I'm saying. Everybody everybody different down there.
It's real down there. Now that being said, you got
this riverboat right this dock where you had your little
pontoon boat. You know what I'm saying, it's the last
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few weekends before people got to go back to school.
So you outside, you know what I'm saying, People got
e drinking, you know what I'm saying, chilling, grabbing yourself
a little ride on the riverboat. Right, But if you
got your little pontune, you know what I'm saying, you
and the homies take your little pontoon out. Perfectly acceptable
thing for these you know, shirtless white folks to do.
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Drink they little I don't know what they drink now,
because they don't drink bud light, because y'all mad at
bud light, you know what I'm saying. But you drink
your little drink, You drink your little beers. You go
out there, you know what I'm saying, hang out, do
your little white people thing on your pontoon boats. Black folks,
we line up, we get on this river boat. You
know what I'm saying. It takes you around. They playing
music as DJs. You know what I'm saying. You're drinking,
you're smoking, you're kicking it. It's a regular thing. And
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when the boat, when the riverboat comes down, comes back around,
some people get off and a new group of people
get on. But the boat has to dock. And if
you live near any body's of water, you know that
the dock is a shared space. And if it's a
commercial one where it's not just like a private dock,
then obviously a private dock is something that's like, well,
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you own this thing. You put your boat there as
long as you want to be there, but there's an
etiquette situation, right, There's only so much space. It's almost
like being on the street with a semi truck. Look,
maybe that show lane, but that semi eighteen wheeler, you
gotta you gotta make way for it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So anyway, he got these white folks. Then they pontoon
and this big old riverboat is trying to dock. So
the captain from the riverboat is like, you know, on
a loudspeaker, like, yo, y'all gotta move, y'all pantune because
we gotta we gotta park here. They not moving, Like, yo,
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y'all gotta move. They not moving. So then the co
captain Black Dude, takes a little smaller boat goes to
the dock. While the riverboat's still sitting out there. It's
people waiting to get on the boat, people waiting to
get off, people waiting to get on. He go down
to the dock and all this is filmed because it's
like hundreds of people there. He go out to the dock,
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right and while they now Here's what makes it even funnier.
The riverboat is playing ludicrous move bitch, get out the win,
Get out the way. They all screaming it because like
they can move, like what are you doing? Like it's
relaxed man, So but they not moving. So the co
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captain gets out, gets on the dock. He walking up
to them like, dog, just what are y'all doing? Just
like slide over. Now you're watching these things ensue. And
then eventually the white boy tries to throw hands on
the brother, trying to tell him to move. The brother
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throw the hat in the air and he like, all right, well,
if that's what we're doing, fades is requested, fhades will
be given. So he start fading this white boy because
the white boy attacked him. Then out of nowhere you
see four five shirtless bubbas throwing their beers up, and
they come and running and jumping in protecting their homeboy. Right,
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so now they jumping this black dude who was again
trying to tell them, y'all just got to move. Now.
We don't know what conversations what was happening. We weren't
close enough to hear exactly what they were saying to
each other, but you could tell by body language that
both of them was like, nigga, you need to chill right,
but I'm not chilling. You supposed to move right. So
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now this brother's getting the black dude's getting jumped. So
he getting moped right, stomped out. They stomping his dude out.
But you have to remember this is in front of
a lot of black people. Then you could see as
the frame gets wider, you see other black men running
as fast as they can towards the dock to come
down there. And as people are running to come help
this brother getting jumped, you also see young sixteen year
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old hero swimming. He's swimming from the other side, swimming
over to the dock through the water. He's like, I'm
gonna get there. I'm helping my brother. He come swim,
come out the water, and then get his wop wop,
saying wo wop wop. Now by this time it's a brawl.
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They pulling people off. Now some of the white girls
getting out of they pontun They want some too, and
they like, now you're not finna beat up on my man.
So now girls coming in. So now the black women
coming down like, ah, hommy, no, y'all asked for this.
Now you see the security in the back kind of
looking like, well, I mean he did kind of ask
for it. They did jump that dude. I mean, y'all, yo,
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you requested a fade. I mean you requested a fade.
So fade was given. Now it's getting crazy, it's getting crazy.
They mopping up the boat finally docks. It has to
find somewhere to dock. Now everybody on the dock. Everybody
on the boat saw this shit happen, so they got off, like, oh, nigga,
what's up? This shit ain't over. You can't jump the
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homie now, is he the homie?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But he black, so therefore he the homie. So all
the brothers get off the boat. Nigga. They go run
up like, what's up? What's up? You're gonna jump the homeboy?
Now other people jumping in. Now the white folks jumping in.
Now it's a brawl. Then the whole thing go around
to another side of the dock. And this is where
some heroes just don't wear capes, but they carry folding chairs.
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Now the police is trying to break the thing up,
but everybody jumping in, and you know how to go.
When people jump in, you can't like look, look, look,
you can't be hurting a hummy. Now, worred in white
boys on that boat. Racist. I don't know, I know
how it looked, but let me stop giving commentary first.
So some brother couldn't have been younger than sixty just
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the old head right has a chair, a white folded
chair on some wwe hits this man over the head
with a folded chair. Then it gets punched drunk because
out the corner of his eye. It's a white lady
who gets pushed over by the cops telling her to
get out, get the hell out the way, right, because
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the cops is trying to stop this thing, trying to
calm everything down, so they push her down. She fall
over her feet, break through her crocs, which is the
funniest thing I ever seen in my life. The brother
with the chair punch drunk while she down bow hits
her over the head with the chair, and at that
point everybody there is like, oh, that nigga going to jail,
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and even the cops were like, oh, okay, okay, now
we gotta arrest you. So then the cops take the
chair from the brother arrest them, and it was like,
I mean, you can listen, man, you can't hit the
lady washing down with a chair, cuz like we was
with you the whole time, but I mean, damn, we
gotta arrest you. And all the Black America was like, yeah, no,
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you going to jail. Niggit, Like you can't hit the
lady washing down with a chair, nigga. Like there's so
at the end of it, three arrests, right, maybe some more,
and the brother with the chair, we all raising money
for his bail. But that sparked the most epic of
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memes across Black Twitter where we having fun. I mean like, look,
people got folded chair earrings, brothers talking about having they
open carry license and they got chairs attached to their hips.
There's the meme of there's this one picture of a painting,
a famous painting of Harriet Tubman where she was reaching
down from the sky to free you, right because you
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know she was the leader on underground Railroad, right, And
instead of just a hand, she got a folding chair.
You know what I'm saying, the ancestors handing you folding
chairs stuck. Look, start beating these crackers ass with these
photo chairs. And black aquaman who swam across the thing
to come get his licks in he dropped somebody. Now
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we are all celebrating this brawl, writing new hymns, and
celebrating the violence that happened there. Now, let's unpack why
we celebrating violence in the history that's going on here
after this. All right, we're back. Now a lot to
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unpack here. First of all, this was a very violent affair.
Don't get me wrong. Are you asking me if I'm
condoning violence? I mean, I guess Listen, you've never heard
me say I was a pacifist. I don't choose violeviolence
unless I need to. I don't condone violence unless we
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need to. I understand violence. I understand it completely. Also
understand self defense. Listen, I'm not an anti gun dude.
I believe in having them things on you. Why do
I believe in that? Because we live in a violent
police state. I mean, like our country, Listen, our country's violent.
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Our country was founded on violence. I'd like, let's not
forget that. Like our origin story is violence. We like
to act like we were built on this idea, the
American experiment. Nigga, it was a war. We built on violence.
You violently stole the land, violently threw off your oppressors,
and then violently subdued a labor force. We're built on violence.
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Don't act like like we are a violent country. So
when you in the ocean, you might as well swim.
I don't love capitalism, but this where we are product
Why because we in ocean when you might as well swim.
If you a salt water if you're in a salt
water ocean, you can't be a freshwater fish. You're gonna die.
You gotta listen. You in ocean, you might as well swim.
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Now does that mean I need to make the ocean
salty or no? Does that mean I need to pollute it?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
But I need to survive. It is what it is.
We two plus two is four homi like we there's violence.
But now let me put my teacher hat on and
let's back up through some history here. Like I said, Montgomery,
Alabama has been a place of you know, extreme violence
towards black people and also a place of healing, a
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place of organizing, a place of resistance and resilience, because
you can never take that away from a people who
lived in a place like this and are still able
to find joy, happiness, and humor. But now having said that,
let's not act like because there was one thing, there
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was one little meme that was going around or hashtarg
whatever that was going around black social media spaces essentially
saying like, listen, we are not our ancestors, and what's
that assuming is that we don't fight back or that
our ancestors didn't fight back and they just were docile
and sort of like allowed themselves to be enslaved. Now
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I knew what these people meant. What they were trying
to say is like, look, we're done, we're done playing,
We're done, we're done taking the shit. We fight back.
But it's also important to remember as Black people and
just as Americans that don't think our ancestors didn't fight back,
don't think there weren't multiple slave uprisings and rebellions. History
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has a way, especially when you're trying to smash it
into a semester and when you're learning it from the
oppressor as a way of flattening a lot of the
stories not at you know, we're rating it in a
way that will eventually turn into what Florida trying to do,
act like it really wasn't that bad and we actually
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gained a lot from being enslave, which is absurd, right.
Let y'all tell the stories, but don't ever think that
we didn't fight. I'm gonna give you just three examples,
but you need to do your Google searches and learn
a little more about this. Number one, I'm gonna talk
about the Stono Rebellion in seventeen thirty nine. It was
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the biggest and largest slavey volt ever stays in the
Thirteen Colonies. It was on Sunday, September ninth and seventeen
thirty nine. It was a day of free labor and
about twenty slaves under the leadership of a man named
Jeremy provided whites. Check this out. PBS has a dope
story on it. They provided whites with a painful lesson
and the African desire for liberty. You have to remember,
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it's not like wars were not fought in Angola. It's
not like some of these people you captured weren't already soldiers,
that weren't already well trained, that don't already know how
to organize. Sometimes you just gotta buy your time and
you gotta wait for the right moment. There are many
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stories of slaving ships being overtaken, dudes being thrown off
the side, Like don't think we didn't fight back, you
know what I'm saying. There was the New York Conspiracy
of seventeen forty one, there was the German Coast uprising
in eighteen eleven, and of course there's the famous Haitian one,
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the famous Haitian slave rebellion, which actually they won. They
threw off there in Slavers. It actually worked. And of
course a person who I wrote my seventh grade history
report on about heroes. You were supposed to write a
story about heroes. It's seventh grade turned it in its
seventh grade project. Now by this time I had got
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shipped off to this suburban school and I wrote my
book report or my history hero report on that turner.
I came in that little, that little suburban school. I
wrote my dumb bug on that turner. Let us say rebellion,
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let a massacre because he had the white people scared
of me. So luck I can't thinking back now my
little high top fade I'm walking in and my cross
colors and my Malcolm X medallion. You feel me coming
in here, straight from the city, shipped out to this school.
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They told me I'm supposed to write a story or
write a book report on some on a historical figure.
Nigga like me chose that Turner. Yes, I can't imagine
what miss Jackson. I had a white teacher named Miss Jackson.
Believe it or not, Sorry, Miss Jackson, you know what
I'm saying. Took on a whole different meaning. Wrote that
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mug on Nat Turner. So listen all that to say,
don't you ever think we wasn't out here scrapping. Our
ancestors did not just fold. They fought till the bitter end,
and even in the end the Thirteenth Amendment, you know,
ended the Civil War. We did that. We fought. Don't
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get don't think that the North gave us some sort
of gift. They couldn't have won if we didn't fight
with them. Okay, so again, know your history. Black people
fought in the Civil War. We are a big reason
why it was ended. And don't forget the influence that
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Frederick Douglass had on Abraham Lincoln. Because Frederick Douglass is
why Abraham Lincoln became an abolitionist. Do your googles. Now,
that's number one. Don't ever think we wouldn't willing to
fight for our freedom. Now, number two is the point
I want to make about This is, like I said before,
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America is just violent. This is how, no matter what
you want to believe, how our problems are solved, how
we get reckonings. I mean, you could just pick anything.
It's violence, it's riots, it's war. What did it take
for the Civil Rights Act to be passed? We took
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two assassinations and then riots across the country. I mean
that's what that's what finally did it? How did you?
I just don't know what to tell you, Like, don't
believe your own lies. There is a deep seated lust
for violence inside of America. I just don't know what
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to tell you. And that being said, I think all
of us at some point have visualized or daydreamed about
beaten the breaks off a fucking racist. I think all
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of us have about beating the shit out of a Nazi.
You've you've you've imagined that moment. Don't lie to me. Okay. Now,
on the other side, I bet you every racist person
in America has daydreamed and fantasized about jumping some minority.
You like, come on that part of you. Every time
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you saw the cops, you know, kill an innocent man,
you know, beating an innocent black person you were kind
of like be kind of cool though, like don't you know,
don't don't don't front and us people of color every
time you saw it, every time you saw a cop,
you know the Derek Show, and everytime you saw a
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copper or or you know the know nothing when you
you know these poor people, poor black kid knocked on
the door, just was at the wrong house and got shot.
Tell me you didn't daydream about beating Aney. Tell me
we haven't all thought about beating the brakes out of
George Immaman. Well, we've all fantasized about getting our licks
in in the and and about the perfect scenario where
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you could be righteous in your anger, where there was
a way that it wasn't ambiguous, so that when you
get your licks in you could still kind of be
a hero. And of course we all watched WW. Of
course you wanted to hit somebody with a chair. Of
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course listen. Of course you thought about slapping the shit
out of a carrot. Don't like, Oh, come on, y'all,
tell me you wait, Somewhere in your mind you thought
about slapping the shit out of a Karen and hope
for an opportunity to where it would be Okay, it's okay,
you're not lying to me, all right, this hoo the politics.
We're just telling the truth, all right. Again, the brother
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with the chair going to jail, Like you can even
see across all of our social media, we all understand
that that was too far right. And I bet you,
as as an officer who might have been present, you've
also participated in these fantasies to where you was like,
I kind of wish like there was a moment where
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we could just let some asshole get their ass kicked, right,
And especially if you watch that whole thing happen, if
you're the officer there, you watch that whole thing happen,
and you're like, that guy had to come in. Those
dudes had to come in. They asked for it. And
then when the guy hit the dude with the chair,
you hit the lady with chair, you were like, fuck, okay,
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now I got to arrest you.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like they're probably like, dude, I'm sorry, man, she had
a comment, but you can't. You can't hit her with
a chair. Bro. So everybody donating to his bail fund
because we all know you can't hit it with the chair.
Now there's that baby and lastly or thirdly, why has
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this captured the hearts and the imaginations of black people
across the country. And it's kind of because we just
get tired of seeing our suffering and then nothing comes
of it, like our sufferings on display all the time.
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I mean, in your life, since I've done hood politics,
We've just watched black people and people of color be
beat or killed on our screens, just with no recourse.
I mean, pick a hashtag. We just keep seeing it happen,
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and then justice maybe being served, maybe kind of being served.
Just like just nothing ever comes of it. You just
get tired of seeing it. You just want one day.
I mean, is it not Batman's origin story? You just
want one day for somebody to get their instant karma,
for somebody to get their come uppins. I want a
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chance where we can finally witness ourselves stand up for ourselves.
I've been trying to tell you this whole time, how
collective identity works with the black community. Why it's so
painful when we see our suffering on the screen because
we feel like that person's one of us. So if
you are actually present and you're watching a black man
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who you don't know, be jumped by a bunch of
white dudes. You just he's being jumped and you're like,
that could be me, and you would hope that somebody
would come and help. And especially if you watch the
whole thing off, because the brother was just doing his job.
And again you place that in Montgomery, Alabama. I mean's
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just there's just a place where if a man stood
up for himself and nobody else was around. You have
to remember, if no black people were around at that moment,
that man might have gotten thrown into the ocean and
we hadn never see his body again. He might have
got dragged into the woods and strung up on a tree.
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That is a safe assumption to believe at that moment.
I don't know those white people, but I know Montgomery, Alabama.
People still get lynch down there, still get hung by
a tree. In the year of Our Lord twenty twenty three.
Black people still go missing and still get lynched. So
it is a safe assumption playing the odds that that
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man could have got killed that day. So, yes, we're
gonna jump the fuck in. Yes, I'm gonna hit you
with a chair because I don't know what you're gonna
do to us. That man's life got saved because there
was black people there, because we kind of get tired
of watching ourselves not have any defense. So yes, yes,
I condone violence in that scenario. I don't know what
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else to tell you. Again, he shouldn't hit that lady
with the chair. Now, why do I keep giggling about that? Well,
I'm giggling about it the same way the rest of
Black America is giggling about it. It's because we deal
with trauma through humor. I feel like I've told you
this before. We have a way of finding the funny
in everything. Now, I'm married a Latina woman. So my
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wife is from Southern Mexico, first gen Mexican, which you
know a lot, I've said a lot. My wife is
has been as street as they come. Now she's now
a PhD. But she from the block, you know what
I'm saying. Like she they grew up hard and in
a lot of ways, they grew up harder than I did.
So she understands the street rules, she understand the hood
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parts of it. She certified, But her culture don't deal
with trauma the way we deal with trauma. We deal
with our trauma by making fun of everything. Like remember
when we talked about the bartin Luther King's statue, the
new sculpture that looked like a big old dick from
a particular angle. Yes, that it was just funny. We
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make memes out of stuff because that's how we deal
with trauma. I don't know what else to tell you,
how else if not, we would be furious and throwing
other white people and we would just be throwing white
people off of cliffs every time we see them, just
with no recourse or this is how we process stuff.
We just we just make jokes out of it. It's
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how we keep each other in line. And like I
said before, what you don't want if you're a member
of our community, even when we make fun of you,
these are acts of love. And my wife did not
understand that when we got when I started making fun
of my child, it's you like, this is this is
how we deal with things, Okay, even when her and
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I were having marital problems, I make jokes. This is
how we deal with trauma. I don't know, I don't
I don't know what to say, dude. We just it's
how we deal with trauma, because if not, we would
be viciously violent all the time either that are deeply,
deeply depressed. All the time we have we've learned to
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find joy. Doesn't mean we're not taking as serious. But again,
if you're in the black community, the worst part about
us is being ignored, because if we ignore it, that
mean you don't matter. I mean, we're done with you.
You're not a part of our story. But if we
drag you, it's because we're a part of our You're
a part of our story. Now, this is a very
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important moment, I would say, lastly, because it's on the
heels of January sixth too, also where the president is
finally being in some ways held accountable for the violence
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that these white people did patriots based on a goddamn lie.
And we all sat at home and we watch these
white people storm the Capitol, all of us knowing full
well we'd have been shot on sight. Y'all. Just y'all.
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White people just get away with stuff. Now, there's been indictments,
don't get me wrong. People have gone to jail, right,
Some have been held accountable. The founder of the Proud Boys,
you know, and a lot of them dudes, they've been
held accountable. Now it's funny. What's funny about that. To me,
is the dude that's going to jail at the Proud
Boys is the non white one. They even still found
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a way to put to find a brown person and
put a bit jail. Dis absurd, But we have just
watched for so long acts of violence towards black people
and people of color, or just acts of violence committed
by white folks always have no consequence, which is why
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we throw in the tie into the Jason al Dean song.
Try that in a small town. Now here's the thing.
I don't know Jason Aldan's I've been made aware of
his politics recently because of all this shit that's going
down with his song. But I also have friends, believe
it or not, that are country singers. One of them
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is very close. I would name drop here, but I don't.
I mean, he wouldn't give a fuck. He talks like this.
So I was about us, but go out name John
my own boy, Chase Rice. So I asked him what
he thought, you know, and he was interested on the
way I think about this. So I think I'm not
(34:37):
gonna say what he thinks because he's got records to
sell and that's my dog, and he'd be trying to
stay out all that shit, right. But anyway, it's interesting
to think, like why this song struck such a chord
because white people have been romanticizing the country, you know,
the small town all through country music. That's what y'all do.
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Y'all romanticize essentially Dixie. You know that you're you're, you're, you're,
you're essentially romanticizing that time, that genteel southern Dixie small town.
I get it. It was a way of life, it
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was a time, and it's a symbol of a time
that you romanticized. It's like it's like England romanticizing Turn
of the century monarchs. You know, all your little limit
little women books and shit, like as if y'all had
running water back then, and everybody didn't. Everybody wasn't incestuous
and smelled like armpit sweat and shit all the time,
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like that's how the royals smelled and sound. But y'all
romanticized that time. I get it, you know what I'm saying.
It's when you layer this idea of saying stuff like
them country boys that were raised right are gonna teach
you manners. You're clearly invoking it's I mean it's obvious
(36:14):
what you're invoking. I don't need to I need to
lay it out. You know what I'm saying, and which
might have been fine if you didn't add the video.
And once you add the video, the video is of
people standing up for their rights of protesting things right
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that were unjust, which is what you're saying is when
stuff is unjust, we're gonna stand up and fight against it.
I don't understand. So we're doing the same thing we're
standing up against injustice. You just don't think what we're
saying is. And you have this idea that the big
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city is this bastion of evil, right, that's that's the idea.
That's that's the romantic idea that that you're saying, which
is fine. Live in your fantasy, in your worldview. It's okay,
you can live in that, right, But for the rest
of us, we know that small towns are a place
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of terror. That's where we get strong of and nobody
comes and finds our bodies. Right, Your crime rates are
actually way higher if we're talking per capita, right, crime
rates are way higher. There's just more people in a city, right,
And to be honest with you, I feel way safer
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in big cities because there's recourse. Something's gonna happen. They
will find my body, you know what I'm saying, right,
someone might see it happen. Now. Also, the stuff you're
talking about, like the Euvaldi shooting, Evalde is not a
big city right now. That being said, the tying is,
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these black people just did everything you celebrating in the song.
You get out of line. Them boys that'll raise right
might swim across the river. Dudes might come from out
the deck and they gonna teach you some man, that's
big homie. I'm just saying, we just did what your
song said. Or you're condonting vigilanti violence, am I? I mean?
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Is it that what seventeen seventy six is politics? Y'all?
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Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.
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I just want to remind you these people is not
smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics.
We'll see you next week.
And listen. The country boys said, try this in a
small town. I got, yall, small town cuz fade in
the wild. Fade in the wild. Uh, black folks, fade
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in the wild. Lift every chair, y'all. I think we
might have a new black holiday hood politics, y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Bade in the wild, Fade in the wild.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
All right. August sixth, twenty twenty three, We'll go down
as the Boston Tea Party for black people, which, as
a not so fun fact, you know, the first person
to get shot that sparked the Boston Tea Party was
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Crispus Atticus, who was also a black man. We've been
a part of this history the whole time, y'all. First, okay,
so welcome to her politics. You may not know what
I'm talking about. I don't know why, because I waited
a while before I started talking about this, and by
waiting a while, I met I already had a lot
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of other episodes recorded. And you know, when you wait,
you get more, you get more details and facts in
So I'm gonna talk about the Montgomery rumble. You know
what I'm saying, The fade in the water. You feel me.
But before I do, I'd like to apologize for my
voice if I sound a little raspy. It's been a
pretty crazy week, as you may or may not know,
(01:51):
But I record on Mondays and on every first Sunday
of the month, I host the club Real Ones out
here in Long Beach, California, and this was just a
really big one. So my voice is pretty hoarse because
it was pretty epic. And then I had a coffee
event right after that, and I actually got to perform
(02:12):
to night. Anyway, I couldn't not record this even though
I'm all, I'm all raspy. But anyway, for recap of
what I'm talking about, So on August sixth, twenty twenty three,
which I want you to remember for the rest of
your life, on a doc in Montgomery, Alabama. Now, to
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color this and to understand why this is so specific,
you have to as I'm telling the story, I'm also
going to add sort of historical things to it, and
then I'll move into the points I'm trying to make
for the show. So Montgomery, Alabama was already played a big,
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humongous role in the civil rights movement, Like how many
of the bus boycotts, you know what I'm saying, Almost
all the most famous stories you know about doctor King
took place down in Montgomery. Now remember he lived in Atlanta,
of course, and you know where he got assassinated was
in Memphis. But Montgomery was like headquarters. You know what
(03:31):
I'm saying. That's where you get the bus boycotts that
you know, sort of sparked the civil rights movement in
some ways. Like that's down there. So there's a lot
of history. This particular doc boat dock was. I mean,
slaves were delivered here. This is a place that has
many old souls and many of spirits and some horrible
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memories on there. Now fast forward to now it's a
regular dock where people take their pontoons and riverboats and
you go out on the river boat, go drink, go
hang out. It's you know, it's hot as hale in Alabama.
I don't know if you ever been down there. Hot
as hal So getting out on the water is something
that people do all the time. Now, I also want
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you to remember that there are schools, high schools down
there in Alabama, maybe not Montgomery, because for Alabama, Montgomery, Birmingham, Biloxi,
Mobile are the air quotes big cities, not big compared
to where I'm from, but they're the big cities down there.
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But outside of those areas, there are high schools that
didn't desegregate until two thy ten. Fam Like, there's a
high school down there. I wrapped about it named Robert E.
Lee High School. Like it's name after the Confederates. So
(05:03):
it's almost like slavery ended last month for them, you
know what I'm saying. The civil rights movement just ended
last week. Like, so there's that type of history down there. Now,
this is not a slight to anyone that lives there.
I'm just saying, this is just the culture. Like you
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can't just take no country road down there. It's they different,
you know what I'm saying. Everybody everybody different down there.
It's real down there. Now that being said, you got
this riverboat right this dock where you had your little
pontoon boat. You know what I'm saying, it's the last
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few weekends before people got to go back to school.
So you outside, you know what I'm saying, People got
e drinking, you know what I'm saying, chilling, grabbing yourself
a little ride on the riverboat. Right, But if you
got your little pontune, you know what I'm saying, you
and the homies take your little pontoon out. Perfectly acceptable
thing for these you know, shirtless white folks to do.
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Drink they little I don't know what they drink now,
because they don't drink bud light, because y'all mad at
bud light, you know what I'm saying. But you drink
your little drink, You drink your little beers. You go
out there, you know what I'm saying, hang out, do
your little white people thing on your pontoon boats. Black folks,
we line up, we get on this river boat. You
know what I'm saying. It takes you around. They playing
music as DJs. You know what I'm saying. You're drinking,
you're smoking, you're kicking it. It's a regular thing. And
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when the boat, when the riverboat comes down, comes back around,
some people get off and a new group of people
get on. But the boat has to dock. And if
you live near any body's of water, you know that
the dock is a shared space. And if it's a
commercial one where it's not just like a private dock,
then obviously a private dock is something that's like, well,
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you own this thing. You put your boat there as
long as you want to be there, but there's an
etiquette situation, right, There's only so much space. It's almost
like being on the street with a semi truck. Look,
maybe that show lane, but that semi eighteen wheeler, you
gotta you gotta make way for it.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So anyway, he got these white folks. Then they pontoon
and this big old riverboat is trying to dock. So
the captain from the riverboat is like, you know, on
a loudspeaker, like, yo, y'all gotta move, y'all pantune because
we gotta we gotta park here. They not moving, Like, yo,
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y'all gotta move. They not moving. So then the co
captain Black Dude, takes a little smaller boat goes to
the dock. While the riverboat's still sitting out there. It's
people waiting to get on the boat, people waiting to
get off, people waiting to get on. He go down
to the dock and all this is filmed because it's
like hundreds of people there. He go out to the dock,
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right and while they now Here's what makes it even funnier.
The riverboat is playing ludicrous move bitch, get out the win,
Get out the way. They all screaming it because like
they can move, like what are you doing? Like it's
relaxed man, So but they not moving. So the co
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captain gets out, gets on the dock. He walking up
to them like, dog, just what are y'all doing? Just
like slide over. Now you're watching these things ensue. And
then eventually the white boy tries to throw hands on
the brother, trying to tell him to move. The brother
(08:32):
throw the hat in the air and he like, all right, well,
if that's what we're doing, fades is requested, fhades will
be given. So he start fading this white boy because
the white boy attacked him. Then out of nowhere you
see four five shirtless bubbas throwing their beers up, and
they come and running and jumping in protecting their homeboy. Right,
(08:53):
so now they jumping this black dude who was again
trying to tell them, y'all just got to move. Now.
We don't know what conversations what was happening. We weren't
close enough to hear exactly what they were saying to
each other, but you could tell by body language that
both of them was like, nigga, you need to chill right,
but I'm not chilling. You supposed to move right. So
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now this brother's getting the black dude's getting jumped. So
he getting moped right, stomped out. They stomping his dude out.
But you have to remember this is in front of
a lot of black people. Then you could see as
the frame gets wider, you see other black men running
as fast as they can towards the dock to come
down there. And as people are running to come help
this brother getting jumped, you also see young sixteen year
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old hero swimming. He's swimming from the other side, swimming
over to the dock through the water. He's like, I'm
gonna get there. I'm helping my brother. He come swim,
come out the water, and then get his wop wop,
saying wo wop wop. Now by this time it's a brawl.
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They pulling people off. Now some of the white girls
getting out of they pontun They want some too, and
they like, now you're not finna beat up on my man.
So now girls coming in. So now the black women
coming down like, ah, hommy, no, y'all asked for this.
Now you see the security in the back kind of
looking like, well, I mean he did kind of ask
for it. They did jump that dude. I mean, y'all, yo,
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you requested a fade. I mean you requested a fade.
So fade was given. Now it's getting crazy, it's getting crazy.
They mopping up the boat finally docks. It has to
find somewhere to dock. Now everybody on the dock. Everybody
on the boat saw this shit happen, so they got off, like, oh, nigga,
what's up? This shit ain't over. You can't jump the
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homie now, is he the homie?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But he black, so therefore he the homie. So all
the brothers get off the boat. Nigga. They go run
up like, what's up? What's up? You're gonna jump the homeboy?
Now other people jumping in. Now the white folks jumping in.
Now it's a brawl. Then the whole thing go around
to another side of the dock. And this is where
some heroes just don't wear capes, but they carry folding chairs.
(11:13):
Now the police is trying to break the thing up,
but everybody jumping in, and you know how to go.
When people jump in, you can't like look, look, look,
you can't be hurting a hummy. Now, worred in white
boys on that boat. Racist. I don't know, I know
how it looked, but let me stop giving commentary first.
So some brother couldn't have been younger than sixty just
(11:35):
the old head right has a chair, a white folded
chair on some wwe hits this man over the head
with a folded chair. Then it gets punched drunk because
out the corner of his eye. It's a white lady
who gets pushed over by the cops telling her to
get out, get the hell out the way, right, because
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the cops is trying to stop this thing, trying to
calm everything down, so they push her down. She fall
over her feet, break through her crocs, which is the
funniest thing I ever seen in my life. The brother
with the chair punch drunk while she down bow hits
her over the head with the chair, and at that
point everybody there is like, oh, that nigga going to jail,
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and even the cops were like, oh, okay, okay, now
we gotta arrest you. So then the cops take the
chair from the brother arrest them, and it was like,
I mean, you can listen, man, you can't hit the
lady washing down with a chair, cuz like we was
with you the whole time, but I mean, damn, we
gotta arrest you. And all the Black America was like, yeah, no,
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you going to jail. Niggit, Like you can't hit the
lady washing down with a chair, nigga. Like there's so
at the end of it, three arrests, right, maybe some more,
and the brother with the chair, we all raising money
for his bail. But that sparked the most epic of
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memes across Black Twitter where we having fun. I mean like, look,
people got folded chair earrings, brothers talking about having they
open carry license and they got chairs attached to their hips.
There's the meme of there's this one picture of a painting,
a famous painting of Harriet Tubman where she was reaching
down from the sky to free you, right because you
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know she was the leader on underground Railroad, right, And
instead of just a hand, she got a folding chair.
You know what I'm saying, the ancestors handing you folding
chairs stuck. Look, start beating these crackers ass with these
photo chairs. And black aquaman who swam across the thing
to come get his licks in he dropped somebody. Now
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we are all celebrating this brawl, writing new hymns, and
celebrating the violence that happened there. Now, let's unpack why
we celebrating violence in the history that's going on here
after this. All right, we're back. Now a lot to
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unpack here. First of all, this was a very violent affair.
Don't get me wrong. Are you asking me if I'm
condoning violence? I mean, I guess Listen, you've never heard
me say I was a pacifist. I don't choose violeviolence
unless I need to. I don't condone violence unless we
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need to. I understand violence. I understand it completely. Also
understand self defense. Listen, I'm not an anti gun dude.
I believe in having them things on you. Why do
I believe in that? Because we live in a violent
police state. I mean, like our country, Listen, our country's violent.
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Our country was founded on violence. I'd like, let's not
forget that. Like our origin story is violence. We like
to act like we were built on this idea, the
American experiment. Nigga, it was a war. We built on violence.
You violently stole the land, violently threw off your oppressors,
and then violently subdued a labor force. We're built on violence.
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Don't act like like we are a violent country. So
when you in the ocean, you might as well swim.
I don't love capitalism, but this where we are product
Why because we in ocean when you might as well swim.
If you a salt water if you're in a salt
water ocean, you can't be a freshwater fish. You're gonna die.
You gotta listen. You in ocean, you might as well swim.
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Now does that mean I need to make the ocean
salty or no? Does that mean I need to pollute it?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
But I need to survive. It is what it is.
We two plus two is four homi like we there's violence.
But now let me put my teacher hat on and
let's back up through some history here. Like I said, Montgomery,
Alabama has been a place of you know, extreme violence
towards black people and also a place of healing, a
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place of organizing, a place of resistance and resilience, because
you can never take that away from a people who
lived in a place like this and are still able
to find joy, happiness, and humor. But now having said that,
let's not act like because there was one thing, there
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was one little meme that was going around or hashtarg
whatever that was going around black social media spaces essentially
saying like, listen, we are not our ancestors, and what's
that assuming is that we don't fight back or that
our ancestors didn't fight back and they just were docile
and sort of like allowed themselves to be enslaved. Now
(17:25):
I knew what these people meant. What they were trying
to say is like, look, we're done, we're done playing,
We're done, we're done taking the shit. We fight back.
But it's also important to remember as Black people and
just as Americans that don't think our ancestors didn't fight back,
don't think there weren't multiple slave uprisings and rebellions. History
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has a way, especially when you're trying to smash it
into a semester and when you're learning it from the
oppressor as a way of flattening a lot of the
stories not at you know, we're rating it in a
way that will eventually turn into what Florida trying to do,
act like it really wasn't that bad and we actually
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gained a lot from being enslave, which is absurd, right.
Let y'all tell the stories, but don't ever think that
we didn't fight. I'm gonna give you just three examples,
but you need to do your Google searches and learn
a little more about this. Number one, I'm gonna talk
about the Stono Rebellion in seventeen thirty nine. It was
(18:29):
the biggest and largest slavey volt ever stays in the
Thirteen Colonies. It was on Sunday, September ninth and seventeen
thirty nine. It was a day of free labor and
about twenty slaves under the leadership of a man named
Jeremy provided whites. Check this out. PBS has a dope
story on it. They provided whites with a painful lesson
and the African desire for liberty. You have to remember,
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it's not like wars were not fought in Angola. It's
not like some of these people you captured weren't already soldiers,
that weren't already well trained, that don't already know how
to organize. Sometimes you just gotta buy your time and
you gotta wait for the right moment. There are many
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stories of slaving ships being overtaken, dudes being thrown off
the side, Like don't think we didn't fight back, you
know what I'm saying. There was the New York Conspiracy
of seventeen forty one, there was the German Coast uprising
in eighteen eleven, and of course there's the famous Haitian one,
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the famous Haitian slave rebellion, which actually they won. They
threw off there in Slavers. It actually worked. And of
course a person who I wrote my seventh grade history
report on about heroes. You were supposed to write a
story about heroes. It's seventh grade turned it in its
seventh grade project. Now by this time I had got
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shipped off to this suburban school and I wrote my
book report or my history hero report on that turner.
I came in that little, that little suburban school. I
wrote my dumb bug on that turner. Let us say rebellion,
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let a massacre because he had the white people scared
of me. So luck I can't thinking back now my
little high top fade I'm walking in and my cross
colors and my Malcolm X medallion. You feel me coming
in here, straight from the city, shipped out to this school.
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They told me I'm supposed to write a story or
write a book report on some on a historical figure.
Nigga like me chose that Turner. Yes, I can't imagine
what miss Jackson. I had a white teacher named Miss Jackson.
Believe it or not, Sorry, Miss Jackson, you know what
I'm saying. Took on a whole different meaning. Wrote that
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mug on Nat Turner. So listen all that to say,
don't you ever think we wasn't out here scrapping. Our
ancestors did not just fold. They fought till the bitter end,
and even in the end the Thirteenth Amendment, you know,
ended the Civil War. We did that. We fought. Don't
(21:27):
get don't think that the North gave us some sort
of gift. They couldn't have won if we didn't fight
with them. Okay, so again, know your history. Black people
fought in the Civil War. We are a big reason
why it was ended. And don't forget the influence that
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Frederick Douglass had on Abraham Lincoln. Because Frederick Douglass is
why Abraham Lincoln became an abolitionist. Do your googles. Now,
that's number one. Don't ever think we wouldn't willing to
fight for our freedom. Now, number two is the point
I want to make about This is, like I said before,
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America is just violent. This is how, no matter what
you want to believe, how our problems are solved, how
we get reckonings. I mean, you could just pick anything.
It's violence, it's riots, it's war. What did it take
for the Civil Rights Act to be passed? We took
(22:32):
two assassinations and then riots across the country. I mean
that's what that's what finally did it? How did you?
I just don't know what to tell you, Like, don't
believe your own lies. There is a deep seated lust
for violence inside of America. I just don't know what
(22:55):
to tell you. And that being said, I think all
of us at some point have visualized or daydreamed about
beaten the breaks off a fucking racist. I think all
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of us have about beating the shit out of a Nazi.
You've you've you've imagined that moment. Don't lie to me. Okay. Now,
on the other side, I bet you every racist person
in America has daydreamed and fantasized about jumping some minority.
You like, come on that part of you. Every time
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you saw the cops, you know, kill an innocent man,
you know, beating an innocent black person you were kind
of like be kind of cool though, like don't you know,
don't don't don't front and us people of color every
time you saw it, every time you saw a cop,
you know the Derek Show, and everytime you saw a
(24:02):
copper or or you know the know nothing when you
you know these poor people, poor black kid knocked on
the door, just was at the wrong house and got shot.
Tell me you didn't daydream about beating Aney. Tell me
we haven't all thought about beating the brakes out of
George Immaman. Well, we've all fantasized about getting our licks
in in the and and about the perfect scenario where
(24:27):
you could be righteous in your anger, where there was
a way that it wasn't ambiguous, so that when you
get your licks in you could still kind of be
a hero. And of course we all watched WW. Of
course you wanted to hit somebody with a chair. Of
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course listen. Of course you thought about slapping the shit
out of a carrot. Don't like, Oh, come on, y'all,
tell me you wait, Somewhere in your mind you thought
about slapping the shit out of a Karen and hope
for an opportunity to where it would be Okay, it's okay,
you're not lying to me, all right, this hoo the politics.
We're just telling the truth, all right. Again, the brother
(25:15):
with the chair going to jail, Like you can even
see across all of our social media, we all understand
that that was too far right. And I bet you,
as as an officer who might have been present, you've
also participated in these fantasies to where you was like,
I kind of wish like there was a moment where
(25:37):
we could just let some asshole get their ass kicked, right,
And especially if you watch that whole thing happen, if
you're the officer there, you watch that whole thing happen,
and you're like, that guy had to come in. Those
dudes had to come in. They asked for it. And
then when the guy hit the dude with the chair,
you hit the lady with chair, you were like, fuck, okay,
(25:58):
now I got to arrest you.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like they're probably like, dude, I'm sorry, man, she had
a comment, but you can't. You can't hit her with
a chair. Bro. So everybody donating to his bail fund
because we all know you can't hit it with the chair.
Now there's that baby and lastly or thirdly, why has
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this captured the hearts and the imaginations of black people
across the country. And it's kind of because we just
get tired of seeing our suffering and then nothing comes
of it, like our sufferings on display all the time.
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I mean, in your life, since I've done hood politics,
We've just watched black people and people of color be
beat or killed on our screens, just with no recourse.
I mean, pick a hashtag. We just keep seeing it happen,
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and then justice maybe being served, maybe kind of being served.
Just like just nothing ever comes of it. You just
get tired of seeing it. You just want one day.
I mean, is it not Batman's origin story? You just
want one day for somebody to get their instant karma,
for somebody to get their come uppins. I want a
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chance where we can finally witness ourselves stand up for ourselves.
I've been trying to tell you this whole time, how
collective identity works with the black community. Why it's so
painful when we see our suffering on the screen because
we feel like that person's one of us. So if
you are actually present and you're watching a black man
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who you don't know, be jumped by a bunch of
white dudes. You just he's being jumped and you're like,
that could be me, and you would hope that somebody
would come and help. And especially if you watch the
whole thing off, because the brother was just doing his job.
And again you place that in Montgomery, Alabama. I mean's
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just there's just a place where if a man stood
up for himself and nobody else was around. You have
to remember, if no black people were around at that moment,
that man might have gotten thrown into the ocean and
we hadn never see his body again. He might have
got dragged into the woods and strung up on a tree.
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That is a safe assumption to believe at that moment.
I don't know those white people, but I know Montgomery, Alabama.
People still get lynch down there, still get hung by
a tree. In the year of Our Lord twenty twenty three.
Black people still go missing and still get lynched. So
it is a safe assumption playing the odds that that
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man could have got killed that day. So, yes, we're
gonna jump the fuck in. Yes, I'm gonna hit you
with a chair because I don't know what you're gonna
do to us. That man's life got saved because there
was black people there, because we kind of get tired
of watching ourselves not have any defense. So yes, yes,
I condone violence in that scenario. I don't know what
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else to tell you. Again, he shouldn't hit that lady
with the chair. Now, why do I keep giggling about that? Well,
I'm giggling about it the same way the rest of
Black America is giggling about it. It's because we deal
with trauma through humor. I feel like I've told you
this before. We have a way of finding the funny
in everything. Now, I'm married a Latina woman. So my
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wife is from Southern Mexico, first gen Mexican, which you
know a lot, I've said a lot. My wife is
has been as street as they come. Now she's now
a PhD. But she from the block, you know what
I'm saying. Like she they grew up hard and in
a lot of ways, they grew up harder than I did.
So she understands the street rules, she understand the hood
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parts of it. She certified, But her culture don't deal
with trauma the way we deal with trauma. We deal
with our trauma by making fun of everything. Like remember
when we talked about the bartin Luther King's statue, the
new sculpture that looked like a big old dick from
a particular angle. Yes, that it was just funny. We
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make memes out of stuff because that's how we deal
with trauma. I don't know what else to tell you,
how else if not, we would be furious and throwing
other white people and we would just be throwing white
people off of cliffs every time we see them, just
with no recourse or this is how we process stuff.
We just we just make jokes out of it. It's
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how we keep each other in line. And like I
said before, what you don't want if you're a member
of our community, even when we make fun of you,
these are acts of love. And my wife did not
understand that when we got when I started making fun
of my child, it's you like, this is this is
how we deal with things, Okay, even when her and
(31:36):
I were having marital problems, I make jokes. This is
how we deal with trauma. I don't know, I don't
I don't know what to say, dude. We just it's
how we deal with trauma, because if not, we would
be viciously violent all the time either that are deeply,
deeply depressed. All the time we have we've learned to
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find joy. Doesn't mean we're not taking as serious. But again,
if you're in the black community, the worst part about
us is being ignored, because if we ignore it, that
mean you don't matter. I mean, we're done with you.
You're not a part of our story. But if we
drag you, it's because we're a part of our You're
a part of our story. Now, this is a very
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important moment, I would say, lastly, because it's on the
heels of January sixth too, also where the president is
finally being in some ways held accountable for the violence
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that these white people did patriots based on a goddamn lie.
And we all sat at home and we watch these
white people storm the Capitol, all of us knowing full
well we'd have been shot on sight. Y'all. Just y'all.
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White people just get away with stuff. Now, there's been indictments,
don't get me wrong. People have gone to jail, right,
Some have been held accountable. The founder of the Proud Boys,
you know, and a lot of them dudes, they've been
held accountable. Now it's funny. What's funny about that. To me,
is the dude that's going to jail at the Proud
Boys is the non white one. They even still found
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a way to put to find a brown person and
put a bit jail. Dis absurd, But we have just
watched for so long acts of violence towards black people
and people of color, or just acts of violence committed
by white folks always have no consequence, which is why
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we throw in the tie into the Jason al Dean song.
Try that in a small town. Now here's the thing.
I don't know Jason Aldan's I've been made aware of
his politics recently because of all this shit that's going
down with his song. But I also have friends, believe
it or not, that are country singers. One of them
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is very close. I would name drop here, but I don't.
I mean, he wouldn't give a fuck. He talks like this.
So I was about us, but go out name John
my own boy, Chase Rice. So I asked him what
he thought, you know, and he was interested on the
way I think about this. So I think I'm not
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gonna say what he thinks because he's got records to
sell and that's my dog, and he'd be trying to
stay out all that shit, right. But anyway, it's interesting
to think, like why this song struck such a chord
because white people have been romanticizing the country, you know,
the small town all through country music. That's what y'all do.
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Y'all romanticize essentially Dixie. You know that you're you're, you're, you're,
you're essentially romanticizing that time, that genteel southern Dixie small town.
I get it. It was a way of life, it
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was a time, and it's a symbol of a time
that you romanticized. It's like it's like England romanticizing Turn
of the century monarchs. You know, all your little limit
little women books and shit, like as if y'all had
running water back then, and everybody didn't. Everybody wasn't incestuous
and smelled like armpit sweat and shit all the time,
(35:47):
like that's how the royals smelled and sound. But y'all
romanticized that time. I get it, you know what I'm saying.
It's when you layer this idea of saying stuff like
them country boys that were raised right are gonna teach
you manners. You're clearly invoking it's I mean it's obvious
(36:14):
what you're invoking. I don't need to I need to
lay it out. You know what I'm saying, and which
might have been fine if you didn't add the video.
And once you add the video, the video is of
people standing up for their rights of protesting things right
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that were unjust, which is what you're saying is when
stuff is unjust, we're gonna stand up and fight against it.
I don't understand. So we're doing the same thing we're
standing up against injustice. You just don't think what we're
saying is. And you have this idea that the big
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city is this bastion of evil, right, that's that's the idea.
That's that's the romantic idea that that you're saying, which
is fine. Live in your fantasy, in your worldview. It's okay,
you can live in that, right, But for the rest
of us, we know that small towns are a place
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of terror. That's where we get strong of and nobody
comes and finds our bodies. Right, Your crime rates are
actually way higher if we're talking per capita, right, crime
rates are way higher. There's just more people in a city, right,
And to be honest with you, I feel way safer
(37:41):
in big cities because there's recourse. Something's gonna happen. They
will find my body, you know what I'm saying, right,
someone might see it happen. Now. Also, the stuff you're
talking about, like the Euvaldi shooting, Evalde is not a
big city right now. That being said, the tying is,
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these black people just did everything you celebrating in the song.
You get out of line. Them boys that'll raise right
might swim across the river. Dudes might come from out
the deck and they gonna teach you some man, that's
big homie. I'm just saying, we just did what your
song said. Or you're condonting vigilanti violence, am I? I mean?
(38:32):
Is it that what seventeen seventy six is politics? Y'all?
(38:55):
You know, I don't know why I ain't thought of
this before, but you know you could use promo code
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cold brew, gonna get you some coffee. Yeah, Like I
can't believe I ain't think of it. This still right now, yo, y'all.
This thing right here is recorded by Me Propaganda and
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East Lows, Boil Heights, Los Angeles, California. This thing was mixed, edited, mastered,
and scored by the one and the only Matt Awsowski.
Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.
Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,
and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in
(40:00):
with us. Make sure you leaving reviews and five star
ratings and sharing it with the homies so we could
get this thing pushed up in the algorithm and listen.
I just want to remind you these people is not
smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics.
We'll see you next week.
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