November 17, 2025 • 17 mins
A Singapore judge threw 26-year-old Johnson Wen behind bars for rushing Ariana Grande in a social media stunt while she was promoting her new “Wicked” movie. Her co-star Cynthia Erivo heroically rushed to her aid, as Grande looked terrified watching Wen approach her and put his arm around her. This is a woman who knows all too well what terror looks and feels like after her concert was bombed in 2017, killing 22 people. Does Wen’s punishment fit his crime, and is it enough to deter him from doing it again? This was not his first stunt and many believe this will just lead to more.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November the seventeenth, and
the man who jumped the barricade and rushed Ariana Grande
and her movie star co stars, well, he has now
been sentenced to nine days in jail. Question is is
that enough? With that? Welcome to this episode of Amy
(00:23):
and TJ Robes. This was a scary scene. Nobody got hurt,
and by all accounts, he didn't mean anybody harm, but
this video went everywhere and this was terrifying.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was especially in this day and age. You don't
know what somebody has in their hands. You don't know
if it's meant to just be a prank on social
media or if someone means you harm. And clearly, when
you watch this video, Ariana Grande's face tells you everything
you need to know. She is scared to death and
she has reason to be scared. She has lived through
(00:55):
one of the worst terror attacks I think any artist
can imagine, having lived through at her concert in Manchester
stuff for years ago. Twenty seventeen, twenty two people died
with the terror attack at her concert.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
She lives with that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
She probably, I mean, she's spoken about her PTSD from that,
so can you imagine now already being afraid of being
out in public and having this happened to you on
the red carpet.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So always, so this was not a consideration of this
young man. And I say young man, he is twenty
six years old. He did go to and he did
have a mini trial, if you will. She showed up
in court and he did plead guilty to being a
public nuisance essentially, and he was sent us to nine
days in jail. Now, the young man did tell the judge,
according to reports there, that he wouldn't do this again.
(01:40):
Judging on his history, it doesn't seem like Robes that
would be the case, because he has as terrifying as
this moment we described might have been for Ariana Grande.
What we're talking about here is a young man who
thinks this is fun, funny, and has made a sport
and a social media following from quite literally rushing celebrities
(02:07):
in unsuspecting moments they're expecting to be safe on stage
on a red carpet. And he's rushed the stage or
the red carpet on several occasions.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And then gleefully posts it online. In fact, you can
see him at the end of this video clapping and
celebrating that he was able to get actually to touch
Ariana Grande. He is celebrating what he just did and
clearly then posted online to then hopefully get hearts and
likes and comments. But actually the comments I was reading
(02:39):
several people are extremely upset with him after this one.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is moronic and it's I don't know how to
be supportive, right, I'm always you know me Rove. I
want to hear both sides. I want to hear from
someone else. I just don't imagine where this could ever
be something anyone could explain or anyone in the wider
population could endorse what he's doing. His name, I'll give
his name. I won't give his Instagram handles, but his
(03:03):
name is Johnson. Excuse me Johnson when he's a twenty
six year old Australian and he does operate this Instagram
handle and where we have seen at least Katy Perry,
he has posted the weekend chain smokers he has gotten
on their stages robes during these concerts. I am a
(03:24):
little surprised at some of the reactions of security. I
wonder what they are legally able to do. But in
the case of the red carpet. This one was in Singapore.
This was last Thursday premiere of Wicket for Good, the
second installment of the Wicked movies that are coming out.
I was shocked at how kid glovey they were with him.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, it's almost because he wasn't some big, imposing, scary
person that they almost treated it like a silly child
like prank.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
A fan kid.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Okay, he doesn't appear to be menacing, doesn't have he's
not large in stature, and so yes, it might they
might have reacted in a way to his physical presence,
which isn't that intimidating.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And you and I talked about this once we saw
the video from what he did in Singapore with Ariana
Grande and her co stars. When I go back and
we saw the videos of him jumping on stage with
Katy Perry or the weekend. The weekend, especially the security
there was the same. I was surprised. Look, we've seen
like football games and whatnot, there is a streak or
(04:33):
somebody runs out. We've seen security dump the hell like
give those guys a good jolt. This guy gets none
of that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's bizarre to me. Look, the only thing that maybe
we can even imagine what it is like, or what
it perhaps should be like with security. When you and
I were at Good Morning America, we would often go
out in the commercial breaks and greet the crowd. Our
security guys were right next to us, and we're always
helpful in making sure nobody got too close or jumped
(05:02):
over the barricade.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
In fact, I never had.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
A scary moment once, and we were out there quite
a bit. And you're in the middle of Times Square,
so anything can happen any and there are plenty of
people out there who have been up all night and
on whatever, who knows what. So maybe our guys were
laser focused and not just guys gals. We had Annie
as well, Yes, but they I was always so impressed.
I always felt safe going out there, knowing anything could happen.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You make it okay now that I didn't think about
what you're saying, But now it seems even more egregious
what I'm saying, and I'm desperate not to criticized security.
I don't know what they go through and what their
rules are. I mean, for the most part of Ariana
Grande and Cast Wicked IWO is coming out, you assume
(05:48):
most are teenagers, young adults, or you don't assume anybody's
there to do harm. Is that in the back of
their minds when this happens. I don't know, but Cynthia
Arrivo should not be the primary defender of Ariana Grande. Absolutely,
this guy ran from a distance. You had time to
see him coming, yes, did you not without a doubt.
And it still took a beat. It took a moment
(06:10):
before Cynthia or Revo was no longer the primary defender
of Ariana Grande. We applaud Cynthia without criticizing her. I've
just it feels so bizarre and uncomfortable with My question
here is so what level of response is okay from
a security guard in this situation if you would have
(06:32):
seen I mean deadly force, how can you bloody him?
Can you just restrain him? What are they allowed to do?
Because I argue it was not.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Enough exactly, So I would first of all, I would
say the job of security is to anticipate this sort
of thing and stop it before there's contact. Period. That
clearly did not happen, and thank god it was a prank.
Thank god it was a joke and for fun. If
he had had had any weapon in his hand, this
would be a very different podcast that we'd be having.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Right, it was a successful attack. If he wanted to
do harm to any star of that movie, if he had,
God forbid, if he had a gun, he had a knife,
he would have one.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Hund And like you said, there was a runway like
he had to run. There was time for them. They
were not looking in that direction. There was three or
four of them in the background and they were all
looking to the side. Nobody was looking ahead. Obviously, that's
a clear problem that they're going to have to fix up.
And my god, I hope they're having a mortem Monday
(07:35):
morning quarterbacking session where if I'm Ariana Grande, I'm having
serious talks. Because also someone who's also been involved in
one of the largest terror attacks ever, you'd think there'd
even be more sensitivity to the fact that she is
does have a fear of public spaces, she does suffer
from PTSD, with what she's been through, that there'd be
an extra eye or an extra level of concern or care.
(07:59):
But in terms did you asked what I think? I
don't know what the legal response is or what you
can or cannot do, but I would imagine if somebody
is touching my client, who I am being paid to
protect from being touched and harmed or in any way impeded,
I think you could take that dude down to the
ground period. You don't know what his intentions are.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know, I'm getting it mixed up now because this guy,
you know what, I think I got it right. He
rushed this premiere twice. I think he was only caught, right,
He was only caught after the second incident, the one
not involving Ariana Grande. So after he did this, he
some kind of way ended up still free running around
(08:43):
and was only then detained after the second incident.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, so I have the question, if you don't look menacing,
if you look harmless, if you look innocent, if you
look childlike, if you don't, do you then get a
different level of once overs. And probably he wasn't considered
or didn't appear to be a threat, and so therefore
he wasn't regarded as one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I am. Look, we saw this and it went viral
when we talk about this, and I think a lot
of folks if you don't remember, and I think it's
easy to possibly sometime be dismissive if you're not, if
you don't immediately remember what happened to this young lady
and what happened to Ariana Grande was I say what
(09:28):
happened to her in that there are plenty of people
at that concert in Manchester who were traumatized by what happened.
There were families that were forever changed, twenty two people
dead there. But she was the one that brought those
people together, like there was a responsibility, you know, she
felt for that, and she yes talked about all the therapy,
all the things she's had to deal with, all the posts.
(09:49):
I mean, she credits some people with saving her life
and getting her in therapy. That young lady just suffered
at the hands of somebody who want on it nothing
but an Instagram post. That is disgusting, that part of it.
And I know maybe he doesn't even realize what he
did to her, but he did something to her that
(10:10):
is egregious already, but given her history, it's especially unkind.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah. Poor And look, we've had the pleasure of meeting her,
and we love her brother, Frankie, who's been amazing and
just a huge friend of ours. But this is a
sweet young woman. She really is She's a sweet young woman.
She doesn't deserve this. And I actually hated the caption
he put on his video. It just was so tone deaf.
Dear Ariana Grande, thank you for letting me jump on
(10:41):
the yellow carpet with you. She did not let him,
and that's patronizing to thank her for something she would
never have condoned.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Obviously she she did and didn't know who this guy
was at all. But for whatever reason, he thinks that
is cheeky. It's cheeking us the way he's gone about
in his posts, and maybe he's giving the impression or
trying to give the impression to follow potential followers that
these artists did welcome him and did allow him to
(11:12):
come up. But that's not the case. But he, for
whatever reason, likes to say thank you Katie Perry for
allowing me. Thank you changed smokers for a long and
he thinks that's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Do I have this right? Is this the first time
he's actually been arrested? Is this the first time he's
actually been held accountable? Is this the first time he's
actually suffered any consequence for what he did?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Only one we've seen reported so far? Yes, what should
that punishment be Stay here, folks, we're going to try
to answer that question. Nine days okay, fine, sure, but
maybe you could argue nobody got hurt, it was a prank,
it should be less. Or you could argue he just
(11:56):
traumatized Ariana Grande all over again. Nine days ain't gonna
cut it. Stay here, all right, folks, We continue now,
nine days is enough? Is that enough? Nine days robes
(12:17):
for a quote unquote harmless prank? I say harmless in
that no harm was done, in that nobody was hurt,
nobody was injured there with, nobody died, there was no attack,
somebody just doing something silly. This guy jumps the barricade, excitedly,
going towards the stars, movie stars, what's the big deal? Rope?
(12:38):
So he gets nine days, and a lot of people
would look at that, and we're pressured that he needs
to get something. So nine days. How's that sit with you?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So here's what I think, given all that we know
about him, his past and certainly Ariana Grande's past, I
think it should have been more. But I do appreciate
the fact that at least he got something. I do
think that if he suffers no consequences as he has
up until this. Now he's just gonna up until now.
He's going to just keep on doing this. He's not
(13:06):
going to acknowledge, he's not going to be forced to
acknowledge that there is harm in what he's doing. And
there is the potential for actual danger and violence to
ensue because of what he's doing, because you can catch
somebody off guard, you can scare a star or a
security guard or a star's co star into doing something violent.
There is no place for this, there's no space for this.
(13:28):
This isn't funny. And I do appreciate the judge what
the judge said to this young man. Judge Go said
that he wanted to send a signal not just to him,
not just to when, but to like minded individuals that
we will not condone any act that undermines the reputation
of Singapore as a safe country. I appreciate the fact
(13:50):
that that was top of his mind, and he said,
you should be mindful that there are always consequences for
one's actions.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
He traumatizes girl, I mean, when you stop, take us longer,
obviously remember. But maybe he didn't remember, and maybe he
wouldn't have cared. But that's horrific what he did to
the young lady, and we could see it on her
face what happened. And again Cynthia or Revo made this story.
I guess this is another you know, always looking for
(14:18):
a silver lining, and we've said for the past few days, man,
everybody should get you a friend. Make sure you got
a friend like Cynthia or Rivo, who did not hesitate
to just react, to respond and quite frankly, not knowing
what was there. She was putting herself in danger, not
knowing what was happening. So we do applaud that, and
look applaud Singapore for what they did make an example.
There's already reports out there. This kid has already said
(14:40):
he plans to keep doing this no matter what does happen.
I probably would believe that. We'll see if he gets
charged with anything down the road, But I don't know
the benefit the upside. What it is. He doesn't have
that many followers. He doesn't so it's not like this
is a huge money making adventure.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I was surprised I did, and actually I was impressed.
I loved this about Ariana Grande fans. I'm assuming people
I'm sure have checked out his Instagram page. It doesn't
take that long, it's not that hard to find it.
But I was surprised and how few followers he had,
given the attention this has gotten, how few likes he's
gotten on the post, given the attention this has received,
(15:16):
And that just speaks volumes to the fact that I
get it. Her followers, her fans, people who love her
and don't like what he did. They know their best
way of impacting him, or having an impact in general
is to ignore him, to not follow him, to not
like And even the people who had did put comments,
they were basically things like, shame on you, how dare
you this poor girl? Leave people alone? And if it's
(15:38):
true that he is already acknowledged, because he's in jail
right now as we're recording this, still nine days, he's
in the middle of his nine day sentence. But he
sat there on this video conference call with this judge
and said, I will not do this again. You know
your honor, and this will be the last time. If
he goes and does it again, I certainly hope. I
certainly hope wherever he does it, wherever, whatever country he's in,
(15:59):
I hope they throw the book at him like and
I hope he never does again. I hope he's learned
his lesson.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
What can you do? I think how big of a
new Whatever the charge is in the US, what would
it be right harassment?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You could say attempted assault or assault even I'm not
sure exactly, but I'm sure there are ways there could be.
There could be some sort of charge that would keep
him behind bars longer.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I would have been.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It would have been so nice had we heard from
him in that hearing saying I'm sorry, I deeply apologize
for what I did.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I get it is what nat I would like to
know that he gets what he did. I know who
knows how this guy is built, and even negative attention.
Some people appreciate as long as they're getting attention. I
don't know who he is, how he's built, and why
he does this, But this is what he did to somebody.
It went beyond a prank, a joke or even scaring someone.
This is traumatizing for this particular individual. That's tough. But
(16:52):
applaud Singapore for what they did. We'll keep an eye
on this and see, uh, I guess you got what
eight days left? We'll check my in a week and
a half and see where he's shown up. But folks,
as always appreciate you spending some time here with us. TJ.
Holmes On behalf of my dear and me Robock. We'll
talk to you ell soon
Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November the seventeenth, and
the man who jumped the barricade and rushed Ariana Grande
and her movie star co stars, well, he has now
been sentenced to nine days in jail. Question is is
that enough? With that? Welcome to this episode of Amy
(00:23):
and TJ Robes. This was a scary scene. Nobody got hurt,
and by all accounts, he didn't mean anybody harm, but
this video went everywhere and this was terrifying.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was especially in this day and age. You don't
know what somebody has in their hands. You don't know
if it's meant to just be a prank on social
media or if someone means you harm. And clearly, when
you watch this video, Ariana Grande's face tells you everything
you need to know. She is scared to death and
she has reason to be scared. She has lived through
(00:55):
one of the worst terror attacks I think any artist
can imagine, having lived through at her concert in Manchester
stuff for years ago. Twenty seventeen, twenty two people died
with the terror attack at her concert.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
She lives with that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
She probably, I mean, she's spoken about her PTSD from that,
so can you imagine now already being afraid of being
out in public and having this happened to you on
the red carpet.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So always, so this was not a consideration of this
young man. And I say young man, he is twenty
six years old. He did go to and he did
have a mini trial, if you will. She showed up
in court and he did plead guilty to being a
public nuisance essentially, and he was sent us to nine
days in jail. Now, the young man did tell the judge,
according to reports there, that he wouldn't do this again.
(01:40):
Judging on his history, it doesn't seem like Robes that
would be the case, because he has as terrifying as
this moment we described might have been for Ariana Grande.
What we're talking about here is a young man who
thinks this is fun, funny, and has made a sport
and a social media following from quite literally rushing celebrities
(02:07):
in unsuspecting moments they're expecting to be safe on stage
on a red carpet. And he's rushed the stage or
the red carpet on several occasions.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And then gleefully posts it online. In fact, you can
see him at the end of this video clapping and
celebrating that he was able to get actually to touch
Ariana Grande. He is celebrating what he just did and
clearly then posted online to then hopefully get hearts and
likes and comments. But actually the comments I was reading
(02:39):
several people are extremely upset with him after this one.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is moronic and it's I don't know how to
be supportive, right, I'm always you know me Rove. I
want to hear both sides. I want to hear from
someone else. I just don't imagine where this could ever
be something anyone could explain or anyone in the wider
population could endorse what he's doing. His name, I'll give
his name. I won't give his Instagram handles, but his
(03:03):
name is Johnson. Excuse me Johnson when he's a twenty
six year old Australian and he does operate this Instagram
handle and where we have seen at least Katy Perry,
he has posted the weekend chain smokers he has gotten
on their stages robes during these concerts. I am a
(03:24):
little surprised at some of the reactions of security. I
wonder what they are legally able to do. But in
the case of the red carpet. This one was in Singapore.
This was last Thursday premiere of Wicket for Good, the
second installment of the Wicked movies that are coming out.
I was shocked at how kid glovey they were with him.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, it's almost because he wasn't some big, imposing, scary
person that they almost treated it like a silly child
like prank.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
A fan kid.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Okay, he doesn't appear to be menacing, doesn't have he's
not large in stature, and so yes, it might they
might have reacted in a way to his physical presence,
which isn't that intimidating.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And you and I talked about this once we saw
the video from what he did in Singapore with Ariana
Grande and her co stars. When I go back and
we saw the videos of him jumping on stage with
Katy Perry or the weekend. The weekend, especially the security
there was the same. I was surprised. Look, we've seen
like football games and whatnot, there is a streak or
(04:33):
somebody runs out. We've seen security dump the hell like
give those guys a good jolt. This guy gets none
of that.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's bizarre to me. Look, the only thing that maybe
we can even imagine what it is like, or what
it perhaps should be like with security. When you and
I were at Good Morning America, we would often go
out in the commercial breaks and greet the crowd. Our
security guys were right next to us, and we're always
helpful in making sure nobody got too close or jumped
(05:02):
over the barricade.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
In fact, I never had.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
A scary moment once, and we were out there quite
a bit. And you're in the middle of Times Square,
so anything can happen any and there are plenty of
people out there who have been up all night and
on whatever, who knows what. So maybe our guys were
laser focused and not just guys gals. We had Annie
as well, Yes, but they I was always so impressed.
I always felt safe going out there, knowing anything could happen.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You make it okay now that I didn't think about
what you're saying, But now it seems even more egregious
what I'm saying, and I'm desperate not to criticized security.
I don't know what they go through and what their
rules are. I mean, for the most part of Ariana
Grande and Cast Wicked IWO is coming out, you assume
(05:48):
most are teenagers, young adults, or you don't assume anybody's
there to do harm. Is that in the back of
their minds when this happens. I don't know, but Cynthia
Arrivo should not be the primary defender of Ariana Grande. Absolutely,
this guy ran from a distance. You had time to
see him coming, yes, did you not without a doubt.
And it still took a beat. It took a moment
(06:10):
before Cynthia or Revo was no longer the primary defender
of Ariana Grande. We applaud Cynthia without criticizing her. I've
just it feels so bizarre and uncomfortable with My question
here is so what level of response is okay from
a security guard in this situation if you would have
(06:32):
seen I mean deadly force, how can you bloody him?
Can you just restrain him? What are they allowed to do?
Because I argue it was not.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Enough exactly, So I would first of all, I would
say the job of security is to anticipate this sort
of thing and stop it before there's contact. Period. That
clearly did not happen, and thank god it was a prank.
Thank god it was a joke and for fun. If
he had had had any weapon in his hand, this
would be a very different podcast that we'd be having.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Right, it was a successful attack. If he wanted to
do harm to any star of that movie, if he had,
God forbid, if he had a gun, he had a knife,
he would have one.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Hund And like you said, there was a runway like
he had to run. There was time for them. They
were not looking in that direction. There was three or
four of them in the background and they were all
looking to the side. Nobody was looking ahead. Obviously, that's
a clear problem that they're going to have to fix up.
And my god, I hope they're having a mortem Monday
(07:35):
morning quarterbacking session where if I'm Ariana Grande, I'm having
serious talks. Because also someone who's also been involved in
one of the largest terror attacks ever, you'd think there'd
even be more sensitivity to the fact that she is
does have a fear of public spaces, she does suffer
from PTSD, with what she's been through, that there'd be
an extra eye or an extra level of concern or care.
(07:59):
But in terms did you asked what I think? I
don't know what the legal response is or what you
can or cannot do, but I would imagine if somebody
is touching my client, who I am being paid to
protect from being touched and harmed or in any way impeded,
I think you could take that dude down to the
ground period. You don't know what his intentions are.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know, I'm getting it mixed up now because this guy,
you know what, I think I got it right. He
rushed this premiere twice. I think he was only caught, right,
He was only caught after the second incident, the one
not involving Ariana Grande. So after he did this, he
some kind of way ended up still free running around
(08:43):
and was only then detained after the second incident.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, so I have the question, if you don't look menacing,
if you look harmless, if you look innocent, if you
look childlike, if you don't, do you then get a
different level of once overs. And probably he wasn't considered
or didn't appear to be a threat, and so therefore
he wasn't regarded as one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I am. Look, we saw this and it went viral
when we talk about this, and I think a lot
of folks if you don't remember, and I think it's
easy to possibly sometime be dismissive if you're not, if
you don't immediately remember what happened to this young lady
and what happened to Ariana Grande was I say what
(09:28):
happened to her in that there are plenty of people
at that concert in Manchester who were traumatized by what happened.
There were families that were forever changed, twenty two people
dead there. But she was the one that brought those
people together, like there was a responsibility, you know, she
felt for that, and she yes talked about all the therapy,
all the things she's had to deal with, all the posts.
(09:49):
I mean, she credits some people with saving her life
and getting her in therapy. That young lady just suffered
at the hands of somebody who want on it nothing
but an Instagram post. That is disgusting, that part of it.
And I know maybe he doesn't even realize what he
did to her, but he did something to her that
(10:10):
is egregious already, but given her history, it's especially unkind.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah. Poor And look, we've had the pleasure of meeting her,
and we love her brother, Frankie, who's been amazing and
just a huge friend of ours. But this is a
sweet young woman. She really is She's a sweet young woman.
She doesn't deserve this. And I actually hated the caption
he put on his video. It just was so tone deaf.
Dear Ariana Grande, thank you for letting me jump on
(10:41):
the yellow carpet with you. She did not let him,
and that's patronizing to thank her for something she would
never have condoned.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Obviously she she did and didn't know who this guy
was at all. But for whatever reason, he thinks that
is cheeky. It's cheeking us the way he's gone about
in his posts, and maybe he's giving the impression or
trying to give the impression to follow potential followers that
these artists did welcome him and did allow him to
(11:12):
come up. But that's not the case. But he, for
whatever reason, likes to say thank you Katie Perry for
allowing me. Thank you changed smokers for a long and
he thinks that's funny.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Do I have this right? Is this the first time
he's actually been arrested? Is this the first time he's
actually been held accountable? Is this the first time he's
actually suffered any consequence for what he did?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Only one we've seen reported so far? Yes, what should
that punishment be Stay here, folks, we're going to try
to answer that question. Nine days okay, fine, sure, but
maybe you could argue nobody got hurt, it was a prank,
it should be less. Or you could argue he just
(11:56):
traumatized Ariana Grande all over again. Nine days ain't gonna
cut it. Stay here, all right, folks, We continue now,
nine days is enough? Is that enough? Nine days robes
(12:17):
for a quote unquote harmless prank? I say harmless in
that no harm was done, in that nobody was hurt,
nobody was injured there with, nobody died, there was no attack,
somebody just doing something silly. This guy jumps the barricade, excitedly,
going towards the stars, movie stars, what's the big deal? Rope?
(12:38):
So he gets nine days, and a lot of people
would look at that, and we're pressured that he needs
to get something. So nine days. How's that sit with you?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So here's what I think, given all that we know
about him, his past and certainly Ariana Grande's past, I
think it should have been more. But I do appreciate
the fact that at least he got something. I do
think that if he suffers no consequences as he has
up until this. Now he's just gonna up until now.
He's going to just keep on doing this. He's not
(13:06):
going to acknowledge, he's not going to be forced to
acknowledge that there is harm in what he's doing. And
there is the potential for actual danger and violence to
ensue because of what he's doing, because you can catch
somebody off guard, you can scare a star or a
security guard or a star's co star into doing something violent.
There is no place for this, there's no space for this.
(13:28):
This isn't funny. And I do appreciate the judge what
the judge said to this young man. Judge Go said
that he wanted to send a signal not just to him,
not just to when, but to like minded individuals that
we will not condone any act that undermines the reputation
of Singapore as a safe country. I appreciate the fact
(13:50):
that that was top of his mind, and he said,
you should be mindful that there are always consequences for
one's actions.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
He traumatizes girl, I mean, when you stop, take us longer,
obviously remember. But maybe he didn't remember, and maybe he
wouldn't have cared. But that's horrific what he did to
the young lady, and we could see it on her
face what happened. And again Cynthia or Revo made this story.
I guess this is another you know, always looking for
(14:18):
a silver lining, and we've said for the past few days, man,
everybody should get you a friend. Make sure you got
a friend like Cynthia or Rivo, who did not hesitate
to just react, to respond and quite frankly, not knowing
what was there. She was putting herself in danger, not
knowing what was happening. So we do applaud that, and
look applaud Singapore for what they did make an example.
There's already reports out there. This kid has already said
(14:40):
he plans to keep doing this no matter what does happen.
I probably would believe that. We'll see if he gets
charged with anything down the road, But I don't know
the benefit the upside. What it is. He doesn't have
that many followers. He doesn't so it's not like this
is a huge money making adventure.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I was surprised I did, and actually I was impressed.
I loved this about Ariana Grande fans. I'm assuming people
I'm sure have checked out his Instagram page. It doesn't
take that long, it's not that hard to find it.
But I was surprised and how few followers he had,
given the attention this has gotten, how few likes he's
gotten on the post, given the attention this has received,
(15:16):
And that just speaks volumes to the fact that I
get it. Her followers, her fans, people who love her
and don't like what he did. They know their best
way of impacting him, or having an impact in general
is to ignore him, to not follow him, to not
like And even the people who had did put comments,
they were basically things like, shame on you, how dare
you this poor girl? Leave people alone? And if it's
(15:38):
true that he is already acknowledged, because he's in jail
right now as we're recording this, still nine days, he's
in the middle of his nine day sentence. But he
sat there on this video conference call with this judge
and said, I will not do this again. You know
your honor, and this will be the last time. If
he goes and does it again, I certainly hope. I
certainly hope wherever he does it, wherever, whatever country he's in,
(15:59):
I hope they throw the book at him like and
I hope he never does again. I hope he's learned
his lesson.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
What can you do? I think how big of a
new Whatever the charge is in the US, what would
it be right harassment?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You could say attempted assault or assault even I'm not
sure exactly, but I'm sure there are ways there could be.
There could be some sort of charge that would keep
him behind bars longer.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I would have been.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It would have been so nice had we heard from
him in that hearing saying I'm sorry, I deeply apologize
for what I did.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I get it is what nat I would like to
know that he gets what he did. I know who
knows how this guy is built, and even negative attention.
Some people appreciate as long as they're getting attention. I
don't know who he is, how he's built, and why
he does this, But this is what he did to somebody.
It went beyond a prank, a joke or even scaring someone.
This is traumatizing for this particular individual. That's tough. But
(16:52):
applaud Singapore for what they did. We'll keep an eye
on this and see, uh, I guess you got what
eight days left? We'll check my in a week and
a half and see where he's shown up. But folks,
as always appreciate you spending some time here with us. TJ.
Holmes On behalf of my dear and me Robock. We'll
talk to you ell soon
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