November 6, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey there, Fana Ritos, Welcome back to a brand new
episode of How Rude Tana Ritos. For today's minisode, we
will be adding a fun little TGIF twist. Since we've
spent the last couple of years recapping our own show,
we wanted to see what the other TGIF shows at
the time had to offer, and it only felt right
(00:38):
to watch the Boy Meets World pilot, as Jody and
I have never seen it and we love the host
of Podmeets World. Of course, so join us as we
break down this iconic TGIF pilot that a lot of
you are also fans of. So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This was so fun, Like, this was a fun exercise
to watch.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Compose the show. I have never watched any of Boy
Needs World.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I hadn't either hadn't, which we all discovered here and there,
but not.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We did the live show and.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We all of us hadn't seen each other's shows, which
was hilarious, and then we had to like try and
invent who is this person? And we had were like, oh, yeah, yeah,
I just want a random stories are I love it.
I'd never watched it, and I also forgot it was
a TGIF show.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, because I think it was after Okay, so this
pilot aired in nineteen ninety three. It was kind of
wrapping up. We might have gone to Nicete Nights. We wrapped, No,
we wrapped in ninety five, but we were off TGIF
in ninety three, yes, because yes, it was ninety ninety
five is when we last shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
There in ninety four, our last shot shooting.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Ok I got it, yes, but I think we were
on Tuesday Nights by nineteen ninety three, we were no
longer part of the TGIF.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Right, that's right, we got yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So yeah, okay, so I know this was not boy
Meld was not on my radar. Yah, we weren't shooting
on the same lot like there was not. They were
own Disney, right, I think they're on Disney, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I thought because they were on the Disney lot, I
just thought, I mean, Disney and ABC are the same
thing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But yeah, I guess I just didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I thought it was a Disney show, not necessarily an
ABC Disney show.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, because it airs now on Disney Plus. And I
think Girl Meets World was a Disney it was a
Disney plus.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, it was because ABC and Disney. I don't know
who owns who.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Disney probably owns ABC because I think Disney owns everything
at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, all of the things. Yeah, so we were such.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A cute pilot though.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh my gosh, I told did you have expectations going
into it?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Did you have high expectations, low expectations.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I mean I didn't really. I tried not to go
and do it with any expectations. You know. I knew
it was going to be a little bit different because
the kids.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Were older, they were on our show, So I was like, Okay,
it's gonna be like, there's gonna be a little more
like funny dialogue. It's it'll be a little more I
don't know, quick witted, I guess was kind of the thing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And I and and that totally lived up to expectation.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It was much more like team you know, middle school queen,
team friendly.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They're no no babies, no babies, no, no, right, And
again it wasn't you know, this was about the kids,
not really the parents. So yeah, much more kid focused,
school focus. Yeah, and the family is just sort of
in the background. Yeah. I went into it was like
I sort of had mid expectations. I was like, this
is gonna be another sitcom, it's gonna be a ninety sitcom.
(03:36):
But I think the succeeded those expectations. I mean too,
it was a great pilot.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was a great pilot.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Ben was hilarious all I mean, the Yeah rider was great,
like the will Oh my god, he was just such.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You know, so funny.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's uh, it's and it's so fun to see everybody like,
you know, god, back when we were all babies.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It was so fun seeing our friends as less child actors.
It's just hysterical. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
Did any actor really stand out for you in this pilot?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean Ben, Ben really stood out for me. He
I mean, he has to.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Carry this whole show, and he absolutely did it. And
he was funny and his timing was great and no,
he was. I mean I can absolutely see why they
cast him as a lead in that show because he
really he was great.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Really funny.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So that's a lot for an eleven year old to carry, Yes,
and he did. I think he was in every scene too,
Like I don't call any scenes that he wasn't in
so that's a huge load for anyone much less than
eleven year old.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So absolutely, but he really I really enjoyed the pilot.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It was fun well, and I believe correct me if
I'm wrong, but I think that Boy Meets World was
written for Ben Savage because Fred had had such success
with Wonder Years, so they were like, we're gonna write
We're going to write this show for Ben Savage. Yeah,
is that right? Oh yeah, Matt Mattie says, that's it's correct,
And it was deserved. He deserved it, like he absolutely
(05:06):
could carry his own Absolutely, Yeah, that was I was thinking,
that's kind of risky to put in a you know,
put all of that on the Red, but they did
it with Wonder Years, with fresh Yeah, that's true. Those
savages many Yeah, really knew. They knew how to act,
that's for sure. So what would you rate this episode
(05:26):
on a scale of one to ten?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, I mean, I'd say as far as pilot goes,
it was like a seven.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It was a good It was a really good pilot. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I definitely think that they'll find their their even better groove.
But I thought for a pilot it was funny. The
characters were really good. It was well written.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. If if
we're using the Full House Pilot as our barometer, and
I give that a ten. Right, so we're judging all
other pilots based on Full House up against the Full
House Pilot, I would give this an eight. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Actually I don't, Sally, we're judging it up against Full House?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It in eight? Yeah, yeah suh, because it was right.
It was right up there, right up there. Wasn't perfect
by any means, but I really enjoyed it. I did
really enjoyed it. Okay, So do we get into some
do we want to talk about these fun facts? Do
we want to just get into.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
This show we kind of covered.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
The show premiered on ABC September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety three,
at eight thirty pm, and it was following Family Matters
and before Step by Step, so it was kind of
sandwiched in there with them, okay, And it debuted is
sixteen and a half million viewers. Wow is in which
is probably for them like great ratings. But now you're
like sixteen million people to watch one show.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You get it's you. You don't get that kind of
those kind of eyeballs all in one.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Spot really as well, you don't know, especially with Streamy
and everybody watches things on their own schedule. So sixteen million, Yeah,
that's hugely impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that's funny.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Although and it says, although Sean is in every episode
and Corey's always talking to him, no one's speaks his
name until season one, episode.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Four, Corey's Alternative.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Friends, when mister Feenie calls him mister Hunter.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Later in the episode, Corey calls him Sean, thus revealing
his name, which had somehow gone unspoken to this point.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I wonder if they hadn't named like, did he have
a name? And in the script the script, so was
it Seand it was they just did he was?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
They just didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
He just didn't like they didn't call it out in
the Yeah, he wasn't like, hey Sean, what's up?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Interesting the things you don't think of. That would have
been an easy way just to write in have you
been savage, say hey Sean or whatever. So, okay, that
is pretty funny. So the synopsis of this pilot, just
very briefly, Corey is caught listening to the Phillies game
in class while Feenie is trying to teach the class
(07:49):
about love. Eric decides to take his girlfriend on their
first date to the Phillies game instead of Corey. So
Corey decides to live in his treehouse. All right, good,
get much better than the bathroom. And they're just we're
not going to go through the scene by scene. We're
not gonna We're not gonna put you guys through this,
(08:10):
but we will talk about some of the best moments,
some key moments of this pilot. We'd begin in the
cafeteria of Corey's school where he has a little run
in with his teacher, mister Feenie.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I was going to say, also, mister Feenie really stands out.
I mean, oh, Daniels is so great and just is
the perfect mister Feenie. I absolutely see why he was
like so popular and white people still absolutely love see
him because, yeah, he had there was a heart to
him that it was really great.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
He was a legend. He's a legend. You know, he
won Emmys, he was on Saint Elsewhere, he was the
night writer. Yeah, ye, so yeah, he was great. But
my unpopular opinion is that I thought he was terrifying
and unlikable in this episode, right, I just thought I
was scared so sorry, timidating ismoy very.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, he's very, very harsh, but I think there's the
payoff is worth it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They he's definitely invested in these kids, because otherwise he
wouldn't take the time to teach Corey that lesson at
the end about love. But he's just he seems like
he shouldn't be working with children like. He just seems
very I.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Mean, I've met a lot of teachers. They don't like kids.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well kidding this.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Forever.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's justified, honestly, middle school.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Is he's been dealing with like eleven and twelve year
old idiots for decades, So thatsgruntled.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So disgruntled. No, he's just a very distinguished character. He
seemed a little up like up uppity up. Yeah he is.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That's I think that's all that the character is written.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I just think he's supposed to be mister like super likable.
I think he's kind of he's Corey's uh not well
nemesis a little bit. Yeah, it's his front of me,
it's his it's his kid, you know what I mean.
Some nuts, but also has like there's moments of connection.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, I think just because I know I haven't seen
the series, but I know how beloved mister Feenie is
even to this day, Like people are just like they
cry and they they just quote his lessons and stuff.
So I was expecting like this teddy bear type no
person that everyone loves so much, and I'm like, oh no, no,
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I did know that. I mean, I haven't watched a
whole episode.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But I did know mister Feenie is particular uptight, sort
of disdainful of you know, these kids that don't understand
and don't pay attention, and so that's kind.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Of the the that's the character and for yeah, okay,
that's how it was written. And yeah Bill Daniels, wooh,
he was great. He knocked that out of the park.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And they're working on Romeo and Juliet in this okay
stabbing the other one with a fake knife, which I'm
pretty sure these days you wouldn't be allowed at school.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No the night like someone is pretending to kill another
with the with the knife. It's yeah you don't, yeah,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
They don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They don't do that in schools anymore. Right, that was
really not what the real knives.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, that God, that ended poorly, so they were like,
we need to start using the fake ones.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yes, so yeah, Corey is secretly listening to the Phillies
game and Phoene catches him, and he tries to emphasize
the importance of Romeo Juliet, calling it Shakespeare's Ultimate Testament
of Love, which.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't think, like, I think it's Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think it's unhealthy. Yes, it's unhealthy, codependent, Well, it's excited.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Romeo and Juliet are twelve than thirteen years old.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, they're they're that's true children, their children.
They don't have their wits about them, right, so of
course they it's a act. Actually yeah, yeah, it is
a tragedy. Yeah, so the ultimate testament of love. I
don't know if I agree with that, but it's a
good setup.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
For of course, what is Corey. Corey says, he's like,
he sees the play as a kid who kills himself
over some dumb girl.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I'm kind of like, I mean, it's true, he's
not wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He's wrong, wrong, Yeah, but I get it. Phoene is like,
now it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So it's a it's a feme of the episode, so
we will run with it. So Phoene fires back, he
gives him detention on Friday, and that's it sets up nicely,
this little this this rift between yeah Feenie and.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Mister Mister Feenie is like the tough.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Six screen teacher. I had a tough six screen teacher.
Oh yeah, missus Porter.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
She was scary, but if you got on her good side,
she was awesome. But she was the teacher like you'd
hear her out in the hallway because the sixth graders
were acting up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Like she was messing around.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
She did not mess around, but everybody respected her hardcore,
but she was not there to play.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's kind of how you have to be in middle school. Yeah,
sixth graders, let's take advantage of you if you're nice.
So yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Still I remember her as a like great teacher that
I really loved, kind of like you know, mister Venie.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Play.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So next with the Matthews house and we're in the
boys bedroom and Eric. We meet Eric the big brother.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Ye Will is so like he's just so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He's you can tell he's like nervous or a little
I don't know, he was a little awkward, but he's
just so so great.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
She's a little stilted, but he's just so charming and
he's super cute, and I'm like, there was like literally
I saw him and I was like, oh, you are
so going to be on the Tiger Beat magazine like
six months. Yeah, yeah, one hundred. He was made for
Tiger Beat cover Sea just eighteen beat, adorable, so charming, big,
(14:09):
big brother energy, Yes, for sure, good casting there. So
the boys are supposed to go to the Phillies game together,
but Eric announces that, oh no, he's taken this girl,
Heather to the Phillies game instead of Ben Savage, and
Ben is devastated, which is kind of this kind of
dick move, you know, to take the girl over your
(14:30):
little brother, Like I didn't think, very highly, very very typical.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
True.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, well, how old is Eric in this? Do we
think he's If Ben is eleven.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'd say he's probably sixty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, maybe he can drive to the date, so sixteen, Yeah,
that's pretty common for six Yeah, he's gonna choose.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
The girl anyway, bro.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Sorry, yeah right, I feel bad. I feel bad for
Ben's simons.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I didn't say you could come. I just talked about it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
There would be a loophole, there's some sort of technicality
that you're going to get off one. Uh okay. So
next in the living room we meet the rest of
the family. Amy the mom, Alan the dad, and Morgan
is the little sister.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, very cute.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I love I loved these parents, these these sitcom parents,
they just seemed very calm, had calm energy.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeas is great, Betsy Randall really great.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, oh my god, ton of stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I was just like, I want you guys as parents.
They're just you can tell they love their kids, but
they're not afraid to punish them, and they are just
like the sweetest, very calm energy. Compared to the Tanner
House where you got like three nutcases. Was this is
a nice, calm home where you want to go and
decompress and relax. I like that. Uh so. Amy immediately
(15:51):
mentions that Peene told her about the Ben Savage's upcoming
to tension, and Corey winds about the fact that they
live next to Foenie.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He's their next door neighbor. Thing Yeah, it's just built
in conflict.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What are the odds that the teachers living right next door, Like,
come on.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, I've heard that happened to like cousins and
stuff that live in like Iowa somewhere that's not you know,
l a necessarily And they're like, oh, yeah, they live
down the street from their teacher.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is this common in Philadelphia? I would think it's in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Seems like a pretty big city, right, But they're probably
in the suburbs. Yeah, you know, you local neighborhood school.
They I don't know, I don't know. I don't know
what's going on with these people.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It just seems a little too convenient. But again, this
is six so of course they're going to set it
up like this for convenience, right, so they can have conflict.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
At least their backyard doesn't change.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Their backyard is very different.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yet I'm gonna wait, hold that judgment.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So Amy tells her husband that Corey got detention because
he didn't want to learn about the emotional content of
Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But I mean to argue he got detention because he
was listening to the Phillies game in class.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, like, if you say what, you got detention
for it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's not the emotional content, but that's the story broke.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
He broke the broke a rule.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, you can't listen to the Phillies game. But
it's the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yet it's an excellent setup for this next joke, exactly
where Ben Savage says, I'm a kid, I don't understand
the emotional content of full House. I screamed yes, like,
oh my god, we made it. Yes, we made it
into the pilot. Yes, boy meets the World fantastic. And
then Corey tries to turn things back to Eric, back
(17:38):
on to Eric, but his parents don't take his side.
Eric bought the tickets with his own money, Okay, so
he can bring whoever he'd like. All right, okay, I'll
give it to Eric this time. But I do think
it's felt bad for Ben Savage. You know, you just
want to go to this game with his brother, so
it will. At school the next day, Corey tells his
(18:00):
friends that he's now an orphan, and he decides that
he and his friends can just go to the baseball
game together. But there's this little matter of his detention,
Corey walks over to Feenie to try and sweet talk him,
but Feoenie has no interest in seeing him. During his
lunch break, however, we do see that Feenie has saved
a seat at his lunch table for a mystery woman. Now,
(18:23):
why don't they have like a teacher's lounge. Why is
Phoenie eating in the cafeteria where the kids are just
like adjacent to.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Him, Because it would be really hard to have a
scene where you see through a wall to what the.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Teachers are doing. That's really why.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, I get it. It's it's just again again.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's a small school.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Okay, again, suburbia. They don't have money for teachers lounges.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
There's no money for the teacher's lounge. Right, He's got
to just eat with all the other kids.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All the kids got to live next door to one
of them. This is why he.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Hates children, because he has to eat his lunch with.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Them and lived at them around middle and lunch.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
God, no, wonder, yeah, wonder he hates good.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Blame mister Feenie. He's lived through a.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Lot, he really has. So that night, we see that
Corey has locked himself away in his treehouse, which I
think is a very cool little set for him. That's great. Like,
you don't see treehouses very often, so I was like, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Had a tree house in my neighborhood growing up. Not mine,
but it was directly across the street. We had like
a little club and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I love treehouses. I don't know if they're really around anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Like there's a couple of my neighborhood. Oh yeah, I
don't ever see children in them. But the kids are
like teenagers now that I see.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So yeah, I do love treehouses. Amy is very sweet.
She checks on him and brings him a dinner, Like
I love I love this mom. How she's not like
get out of the treehouse. Get you know, you got detention,
you're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
For great, stay in the treehouse attitude.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's some dinner, you're having some feelings, Go ahead and
have your feelings in your treehouse. Yeah, Like she's she's
an excellent mom. He lover. Uh. Corey realizes that he
can see inside Phoenie's house from this new vantage point.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
How was he never realized this before?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But it's weird, like this is just this feels voyeuristic
and just weird that he's spying on his teacher. Now, Like,
there's so many boundaries being violated right now that I'm like, well.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Again, very hard to write the scene through a fence
where he doesn't see him, So you've got to somehow
get over.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That, I guess. So it looks like Phoenie is setting
up a romantic dinner for two. But then Phoenie gets
a phone call and sad music starts to play, and
he hangs up the phone and takes that extra place,
setting away. Assume that he's been stood up on a date,
which is very Once the violins start playing, you know,
(20:48):
you're supposed to feel sad, but I felt mostly confused
why he like, had he only made a salad? Like
that was the whole day? He made a sad that
just a big salad. Yes, okay, you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Throw it, that's it, you know what.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Maybe maybe he was making some sort of roast and
that was still in the ovens, so you know, you
eat the salad first.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You eat the salad first.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well is roasting, right, Well, it's resting.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You know, he's taking it out for a little bit,
so it's the resting.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay, So the roast is resting, and Phoenie is sad
that he's stood up. I still think it's weird that
he lives next door. I don't know. I'm not gonna
be able to get past that.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, I have a feeling that's going to stick for
the whole show. So yeah, if you're gonna watch anymore,
you might want to move on.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm also curious about how they're gonna write Phoenie into. Like,
so this show went for seven seasons. How do they
write the teacher. He's obviously a major character of the show.
He gets like second billing, So how do they keep
writing him for seven seasons? Don't you switch teacher every year?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I don't know, so I haven't seen the rest of
the show.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Wait, Maddie's given they made him their teacher every year?
What that's weird. I mean, that's one way to write
him into every season. But right, that never happen even
in high school. That doesn't That.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Doesn't mean I have the same math teacher for three years.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But that was well okay, but not the same one
you had when you were eleven in sixth grade, you know,
he said, yeah, he even had.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Him go to college with them. Now it's becoming this
is sorry.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We're getting notes from Maddie as we're discussing, like wait
a minute, this is weird, and she's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Like, oh wait, just wait to get weird. It's weirder.
He goes to college. Okay, well, but you know what,
here's the thing. What I'm glad to know that other
shows also do stupid it like Full House did. It's
very true, doesn't really matter. You just got to make
it work and.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Reality be damned, you know so at least I like
I feel like, huh, yeah, you guys did it too.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
See, yeah, this doesn't make me feel little bit better about.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like asteroid sized plot holes all in the place.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So funny. Okay, So Corey goes back in the house
and Amy catches him. He says he's not state. Amy
relates Corey's feelings of abandonment to his dad. His dad
felt abandoned when Corey no longer wanted to play football
with him after school, and so the mom explains how
(23:29):
people grow up and priorities change and that's all natural.
Good lesson. Yeah, another good lesson from mom. And next
a great scene where Corey is stuck in detention with
Foenie and this is masterful like this.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
The two of them are so good in the scene.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
They're so good together. I like they I want to
see what their chemistry test was like like before they
started taping this, Like it's just fantastic. Yeah. So, despite
Cory's best efforts, Foenie will not talk to him, and
he's like getting up, he's dancing, he's doing all of
these distracting things. And Phoenie is just stonefaced grading his
(24:09):
papers and will not give him the time of day.
So Corey states that love leads to no good and
he's certain that Feoene agrees with him. When Foene questions this,
Corey admits to seeing him eat alone last night. Get curtains, buddy, right,
(24:29):
it's very jarring. So Phoenie is very adamant that he
believes in the power of love, and he uses the
Matthews family as the perfect example. The family was created
because two people fell in love. He tells Corey that
people who don't recognize the value of love will be
stuck in detention for the rest of their lives. All right,
(24:51):
He's made this a teachable moment. All of this is
whether from Shakespeare to Eric leaving Ben Savage for the girlfriends,
to take the girlfriend to the game, to familiar, to change.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
People move on, not mister Feenie, He'll be with you forever, right,
he'll be, But other people's priorities change and they move on.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now I know that Ben Savage and Topanga get married.
Was he is he at the wedding? Does he officiate
the wedding? Like?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I got so much questions. I don't know the first
time I've watched the show.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I'm just wondering, Like, I'm just wondering out loud, like
married Ben Savage and Daniel Fishel, their characters get married
by the end of the series. Oh so yeah, But
I don't know anything.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I'm sure I've heard it in passing. I'm probably that's weird.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, they were like they were a couple of goals
back in the nineties. They were it was like every
guy wanted Topanga and I don't know if they wanted
to be Ben Savage, but they Yeah, so they got married,
and I don't know. I kind of want to watch
the rest of the series how to find out that
these questions what happened? Yeah, I might, I might. I
might be a new fan of Boy Meets the World. Uh,
(26:05):
so Cory sneaks back into the house, and this time
the little sister catches him. He begs her not to
tell anyone, but she ignores him and shouts Corey's home
for the entire house to hear. The dad meets him
in the living room and Corey uses this opportunity to
tell him that he'd like to move back, and then
he apologizes for ditching him for his friends, but Alan
(26:27):
is glad that Corey has friends. I don't think Alan
was really upset about this, like the not playing football
with him, Like Alic's just like, hey, I'm glad you
got friends.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But I think that was the point, right, was that, Like, Okay,
he was bummed at first, like that you have, but
actually I'm really glad you have friends, and I'm glad
you have. You're supposed to do that, like mom said,
that's totally natural, Like, you know, it feels bad at first,
but honestly, the other person is doing exactly what they're
supposed to be doing, so it's not you know.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I think that that was kind of what I took
from it. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Okay, well, this dad seems way more involved or evil
not involved evolved. Then the full house dads because they
always put themselves first and they're always like, you've hurt
my feelings.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right, Well, there's a mom in the house, so you know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, the emotional needs are getting met because there's a
mom in that. That's right. I'm not used to seeing
a mom in on a sitcom. This is revolutionary and
she's fantastic. She's like the ideal bomb. So next Corey's
playing video games up in his room and Eric walks in.
He had a terrible date. He was clumsy, he was embarrassing,
(27:33):
he had nothing to say, and he says, I'll never
go on another date with Heather ever. Again, Corey knows
that's not true. Even though she's Corey's nemesis. He urges
his brother to call her. Okay, so that's good they
you know, I think Ben Savage is evolving here.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Jane Lessons paying off.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
He's like, oh you know, and the dad Lesson like, okay, actually,
this is what you're supposed to be doing, Like this
isn't let me be a good little brother.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I will give the writer his flowers for this, because
this was a great way to involve almost every cat yep,
basically every cast member because even with the little sister.
He decides to play tea party with the little sister too,
So it's like, yes, the writer has somehow involved every
character into this lesson on life different kinds of love.
So that's actually very well done. So yeah, last scenes,
(28:22):
or one of the last scenes, Corey is sitting with
Morgan and joining her for tea. He tells her that
he'll always be there for her no matter how old
he gets, and he asks her that she'll never stop
inviting him to tea parties. Very sweet, very cute.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
When Amy tells Morgan to head upstairs and get ready
for bed, Corey asks if they can finish their tea party,
and he even offers to put Morgan to bed. When
Amy notices the change of heart, Corey just admits, I
don't understand anything about my life. Same Corey.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say, wow, doesn't really change.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He's very self aware for an eleven year old.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Morgan gives him a hugging and kiss on the cheek
and all he has to say is, uh, yeah, thanks
for that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This was a very again, very sweet scene. You can
see how Corey's evolved over the last twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, you're like, okay, okay, get's paying attention.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, it's very cute, and I love how the little
girl just chucked her doll. Oh she chucked him and
was like, forget it. Look, then my big brother is here.
I don't want, don't need a doll anymore. And then last, last,
but certainly not least, the boys are spying on Phoenie
having lunch with the same woman yet again. Phoanie finally
(29:36):
asks this woman to dinner and she says yes. He
boasts about being a good cook, admitting he made dinner
for his sister the other night but she had to cancel.
Corey is obviously confused, and Phoene says that that's the
way it should be. Plot twist. I wasn't expecting that
to be the sister. I really thought he on a date. Yeah,
(29:59):
you know, I don't know if they needed this little tag,
this little I don't know if they even needed this scene.
I kind of thought it was the end with the
tea party and the sister.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But yeah, but but I liked it because it also
it would like reminded the kids, like, you don't always
know what you're talking about, so don't take things out
of context and think.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That you're right when you.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Don't make snap judgments when it could be one of anything.
So yeah, okay, but I love this pilot.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I thought it was really cute. I was glad that
I watched it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I can't joke with them and laugh with them and
at them at the ridiculousness of the pilot.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Too, so ridiculous. And we didn't I didn't mention writer,
but right strong. He is so strong from the jump,
like he's cool and moody and I'm just like he
had like four lines, but he was so strong.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, he was so shorn. Yeah, exactly, Sean.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And it's hysterical just knowing how they grew up to
be and how they are now. It's it's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I really enjoyed this. I can see why fans loved it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, I can't too. So uh it was great. Guy
Boy Meets World cast well done.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Boy Meets World. Yes, it's you know, it was funny
as it is the full House pilot, but very close,
very very.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But but it's cute, you know what I mean. It
was cute. It's it's up there, up.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
There, yeah, and it's I feel like full House was
definitely more of a family like younger children, family focused shit,
and this is it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Has a family, middle school teenage.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, I think the school is the main setting in
the family background.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
The kids and a younger audience, not.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Necessarily the whole family, the whole family as much.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yes, I totally agree. I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I kind of like it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't know, I like I like that it's just
kid focused, But I don't know. Full House was kind
of a bigger cultural phenomenon than Boy Meets World. I
think I'm okay saying that true. Well, yeah, as far
as like people quoting catchphrases, memes that are out there,
you know, the just the buzz surrounding our show, and
the loyalty. I mean, I don't know, I feel like
Boy Meets World fans are pretty damn Yes, I'm not
(32:10):
going to say they're more loyal than than Full House.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I have experience with the Full House fans, so I
can't speak for the Boy Meets World ones, but I
do I think, you know, uh yeah, this was full
House was for a totally not a totally different audience,
but for I think more of a co viewing experience.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This was like, yes, this was.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
This was a you know again, an ABC sitcom. It
was the whole family would enjoy it, but it centered
around the kids in a way that made them more
friendly to like tweens and teenagers as they grew up.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So yeah, I wonder if it was easier to write
for because you didn't have so many fractured You got,
you know, a five year old and then the grandparents.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You've got three families existing in the same space.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Basically, so you just have to focus on the kids
and their friendships and their romances.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And you can write a little bit more clever and
bantery for older kids, you know, than you can so
but no.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I loved it. I'm so glad we watched that. This
was great.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
This was very super cute. Yep, loved it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I might have to watch a few more episodes.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Watch and keep me posted.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I will.
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Speaker 2 (33:26):
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Speaker 3 (33:28):
Dot com, and uh.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, I don't know go watch The Boy Meets World Pilot.
It's cute, great, it's very funny.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, tell tell us what you thought. I mean, if
you are a fan of both shows, just give us
your opinions.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Not Maybe there's people out there that also have never
watched The Boy Meets World Pilot and give their thoughts. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
let us know you guys. We love to hear from you.
And remember the world is small.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The house is full of love, full of love. There's
love everywhere. The whole show was about love.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Love is love.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yep, it's true game up for mister Feeney because I
was his sister.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So it sounds like he's in love with her, but
he loves her, you know, still.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
A different type of love. Yeah, and he's ready to
get it on with that the teacher from the cafeteria.
So go Feenie, right, bye and bye
Hey there, Fana Ritos, Welcome back to a brand new
episode of How Rude Tana Ritos. For today's minisode, we
will be adding a fun little TGIF twist. Since we've
spent the last couple of years recapping our own show,
we wanted to see what the other TGIF shows at
the time had to offer, and it only felt right
(00:38):
to watch the Boy Meets World pilot, as Jody and
I have never seen it and we love the host
of Podmeets World. Of course, so join us as we
break down this iconic TGIF pilot that a lot of
you are also fans of. So let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Let's do this.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This was so fun, Like, this was a fun exercise
to watch.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Compose the show. I have never watched any of Boy
Needs World.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I hadn't either hadn't, which we all discovered here and there,
but not.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We did the live show and.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We all of us hadn't seen each other's shows, which
was hilarious, and then we had to like try and
invent who is this person? And we had were like, oh, yeah, yeah,
I just want a random stories are I love it.
I'd never watched it, and I also forgot it was
a TGIF show.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, because I think it was after Okay, so this
pilot aired in nineteen ninety three. It was kind of
wrapping up. We might have gone to Nicete Nights. We wrapped, No,
we wrapped in ninety five, but we were off TGIF
in ninety three, yes, because yes, it was ninety ninety
five is when we last shooting.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
There in ninety four, our last shot shooting.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Ok I got it, yes, but I think we were
on Tuesday Nights by nineteen ninety three, we were no
longer part of the TGIF.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Right, that's right, we got yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So yeah, okay, so I know this was not boy
Meld was not on my radar. Yah, we weren't shooting
on the same lot like there was not. They were
own Disney, right, I think they're on Disney, And yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I thought because they were on the Disney lot, I
just thought, I mean, Disney and ABC are the same
thing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But yeah, I guess I just didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I thought it was a Disney show, not necessarily an
ABC Disney show.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, because it airs now on Disney Plus. And I
think Girl Meets World was a Disney it was a
Disney plus.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, it was because ABC and Disney. I don't know
who owns who.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Disney probably owns ABC because I think Disney owns everything
at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, all of the things. Yeah, so we were such.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A cute pilot though.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh my gosh, I told did you have expectations going
into it?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Did you have high expectations, low expectations.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I mean I didn't really. I tried not to go
and do it with any expectations. You know. I knew
it was going to be a little bit different because
the kids.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Were older, they were on our show, So I was like, Okay,
it's gonna be like, there's gonna be a little more
like funny dialogue. It's it'll be a little more I
don't know, quick witted, I guess was kind of the thing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And I and and that totally lived up to expectation.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It was much more like team you know, middle school queen,
team friendly.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They're no no babies, no babies, no, no, right, And
again it wasn't you know, this was about the kids,
not really the parents. So yeah, much more kid focused,
school focus. Yeah, and the family is just sort of
in the background. Yeah. I went into it was like
I sort of had mid expectations. I was like, this
is gonna be another sitcom, it's gonna be a ninety sitcom.
(03:36):
But I think the succeeded those expectations. I mean too,
it was a great pilot.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was a great pilot.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Ben was hilarious all I mean, the Yeah rider was great,
like the will Oh my god, he was just such.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You know, so funny.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's uh, it's and it's so fun to see everybody like,
you know, god, back when we were all babies.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It was so fun seeing our friends as less child actors.
It's just hysterical. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
Did any actor really stand out for you in this pilot?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean Ben, Ben really stood out for me. He
I mean, he has to.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Carry this whole show, and he absolutely did it. And
he was funny and his timing was great and no,
he was. I mean I can absolutely see why they
cast him as a lead in that show because he
really he was great.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Really funny.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
So that's a lot for an eleven year old to carry, Yes,
and he did. I think he was in every scene too,
Like I don't call any scenes that he wasn't in
so that's a huge load for anyone much less than
eleven year old.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So absolutely, but he really I really enjoyed the pilot.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It was fun well, and I believe correct me if
I'm wrong, but I think that Boy Meets World was
written for Ben Savage because Fred had had such success
with Wonder Years, so they were like, we're gonna write
We're going to write this show for Ben Savage. Yeah,
is that right? Oh yeah, Matt Mattie says, that's it's correct,
And it was deserved. He deserved it, like he absolutely
(05:06):
could carry his own Absolutely, Yeah, that was I was thinking,
that's kind of risky to put in a you know,
put all of that on the Red, but they did
it with Wonder Years, with fresh Yeah, that's true. Those
savages many Yeah, really knew. They knew how to act,
that's for sure. So what would you rate this episode
(05:26):
on a scale of one to ten?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, I mean, I'd say as far as pilot goes,
it was like a seven.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It was a good It was a really good pilot. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I definitely think that they'll find their their even better groove.
But I thought for a pilot it was funny. The
characters were really good. It was well written.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. If if
we're using the Full House Pilot as our barometer, and
I give that a ten. Right, so we're judging all
other pilots based on Full House up against the Full
House Pilot, I would give this an eight. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Actually I don't, Sally, we're judging it up against Full House?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It in eight? Yeah, yeah suh, because it was right.
It was right up there, right up there. Wasn't perfect
by any means, but I really enjoyed it. I did
really enjoyed it. Okay, So do we get into some
do we want to talk about these fun facts? Do
we want to just get into.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
This show we kind of covered.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
The show premiered on ABC September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety three,
at eight thirty pm, and it was following Family Matters
and before Step by Step, so it was kind of
sandwiched in there with them, okay, And it debuted is
sixteen and a half million viewers. Wow is in which
is probably for them like great ratings. But now you're
like sixteen million people to watch one show.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You get it's you. You don't get that kind of
those kind of eyeballs all in one.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Spot really as well, you don't know, especially with Streamy
and everybody watches things on their own schedule. So sixteen million, Yeah,
that's hugely impressive, very impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And that's funny.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Although and it says, although Sean is in every episode
and Corey's always talking to him, no one's speaks his
name until season one, episode.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Four, Corey's Alternative.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Friends, when mister Feenie calls him mister Hunter.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Later in the episode, Corey calls him Sean, thus revealing
his name, which had somehow gone unspoken to this point.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I wonder if they hadn't named like, did he have
a name? And in the script the script, so was
it Seand it was they just did he was?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
They just didn't.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
He just didn't like they didn't call it out in
the Yeah, he wasn't like, hey Sean, what's up?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, it didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Interesting the things you don't think of. That would have
been an easy way just to write in have you
been savage, say hey Sean or whatever. So, okay, that
is pretty funny. So the synopsis of this pilot, just
very briefly, Corey is caught listening to the Phillies game
in class while Feenie is trying to teach the class
(07:49):
about love. Eric decides to take his girlfriend on their
first date to the Phillies game instead of Corey. So
Corey decides to live in his treehouse. All right, good,
get much better than the bathroom. And they're just we're
not going to go through the scene by scene. We're
not gonna We're not gonna put you guys through this,
(08:10):
but we will talk about some of the best moments,
some key moments of this pilot. We'd begin in the
cafeteria of Corey's school where he has a little run
in with his teacher, mister Feenie.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I was going to say, also, mister Feenie really stands out.
I mean, oh, Daniels is so great and just is
the perfect mister Feenie. I absolutely see why he was
like so popular and white people still absolutely love see
him because, yeah, he had there was a heart to
him that it was really great.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
He was a legend. He's a legend. You know, he
won Emmys, he was on Saint Elsewhere, he was the
night writer. Yeah, ye, so yeah, he was great. But
my unpopular opinion is that I thought he was terrifying
and unlikable in this episode, right, I just thought I
was scared so sorry, timidating ismoy very.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, he's very, very harsh, but I think there's the
payoff is worth it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They he's definitely invested in these kids, because otherwise he
wouldn't take the time to teach Corey that lesson at
the end about love. But he's just he seems like
he shouldn't be working with children like. He just seems
very I.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Mean, I've met a lot of teachers. They don't like kids.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well kidding this.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Forever.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's justified, honestly, middle school.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Is he's been dealing with like eleven and twelve year
old idiots for decades, So thatsgruntled.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So disgruntled. No, he's just a very distinguished character. He
seemed a little up like up uppity up. Yeah he is.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
That's I think that's all that the character is written.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I just think he's supposed to be mister like super likable.
I think he's kind of he's Corey's uh not well
nemesis a little bit. Yeah, it's his front of me,
it's his it's his kid, you know what I mean.
Some nuts, but also has like there's moments of connection.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, I think just because I know I haven't seen
the series, but I know how beloved mister Feenie is
even to this day, Like people are just like they
cry and they they just quote his lessons and stuff.
So I was expecting like this teddy bear type no
person that everyone loves so much, and I'm like, oh no, no,
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I did know that. I mean, I haven't watched a
whole episode.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But I did know mister Feenie is particular uptight, sort
of disdainful of you know, these kids that don't understand
and don't pay attention, and so that's kind.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Of the the that's the character and for yeah, okay,
that's how it was written. And yeah Bill Daniels, wooh,
he was great. He knocked that out of the park.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And they're working on Romeo and Juliet in this okay
stabbing the other one with a fake knife, which I'm
pretty sure these days you wouldn't be allowed at school.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No the night like someone is pretending to kill another
with the with the knife. It's yeah you don't, yeah,
you don't.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
They don't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
They don't do that in schools anymore. Right, that was
really not what the real knives.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, that God, that ended poorly, so they were like,
we need to start using the fake ones.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yes, so yeah, Corey is secretly listening to the Phillies
game and Phoene catches him, and he tries to emphasize
the importance of Romeo Juliet, calling it Shakespeare's Ultimate Testament
of Love, which.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I don't think, like, I think it's Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think it's unhealthy. Yes, it's unhealthy, codependent, Well, it's excited.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Romeo and Juliet are twelve than thirteen years old.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, they're they're that's true children, their children.
They don't have their wits about them, right, so of
course they it's a act. Actually yeah, yeah, it is
a tragedy. Yeah, so the ultimate testament of love. I
don't know if I agree with that, but it's a
good setup.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
For of course, what is Corey. Corey says, he's like,
he sees the play as a kid who kills himself
over some dumb girl.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And I'm kind of like, I mean, it's true, he's
not wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
He's wrong, wrong, Yeah, but I get it. Phoene is like,
now it's more than that.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So it's a it's a feme of the episode, so
we will run with it. So Phoene fires back, he
gives him detention on Friday, and that's it sets up nicely,
this little this this rift between yeah Feenie and.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Mister Mister Feenie is like the tough.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Six screen teacher. I had a tough six screen teacher.
Oh yeah, missus Porter.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
She was scary, but if you got on her good side,
she was awesome. But she was the teacher like you'd
hear her out in the hallway because the sixth graders
were acting up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Like she was messing around.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
She did not mess around, but everybody respected her hardcore,
but she was not there to play.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's kind of how you have to be in middle school. Yeah,
sixth graders, let's take advantage of you if you're nice.
So yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Still I remember her as a like great teacher that
I really loved, kind of like you know, mister Venie.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah all right.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Play.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So next with the Matthews house and we're in the
boys bedroom and Eric. We meet Eric the big brother.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Ye Will is so like he's just so cute.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He's you can tell he's like nervous or a little
I don't know, he was a little awkward, but he's
just so so great.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
She's a little stilted, but he's just so charming and
he's super cute, and I'm like, there was like literally
I saw him and I was like, oh, you are
so going to be on the Tiger Beat magazine like
six months. Yeah, yeah, one hundred. He was made for
Tiger Beat cover Sea just eighteen beat, adorable, so charming, big,
(14:09):
big brother energy, Yes, for sure, good casting there. So
the boys are supposed to go to the Phillies game together,
but Eric announces that, oh no, he's taken this girl,
Heather to the Phillies game instead of Ben Savage, and
Ben is devastated, which is kind of this kind of
dick move, you know, to take the girl over your
(14:30):
little brother, Like I didn't think, very highly, very very typical.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
True.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, well, how old is Eric in this? Do we
think he's If Ben is eleven.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'd say he's probably sixty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, maybe he can drive to the date, so sixteen, Yeah,
that's pretty common for six Yeah, he's gonna choose.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
The girl anyway, bro.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Sorry, yeah right, I feel bad. I feel bad for
Ben's simons.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I didn't say you could come. I just talked about it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
There would be a loophole, there's some sort of technicality
that you're going to get off one. Uh okay. So
next in the living room we meet the rest of
the family. Amy the mom, Alan the dad, and Morgan
is the little sister.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, very cute.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I love I loved these parents, these these sitcom parents,
they just seemed very calm, had calm energy.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeas is great, Betsy Randall really great.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, oh my god, ton of stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I was just like, I want you guys as parents.
They're just you can tell they love their kids, but
they're not afraid to punish them, and they are just
like the sweetest, very calm energy. Compared to the Tanner
House where you got like three nutcases. Was this is
a nice, calm home where you want to go and
decompress and relax. I like that. Uh so. Amy immediately
(15:51):
mentions that Peene told her about the Ben Savage's upcoming
to tension, and Corey winds about the fact that they
live next to Foenie.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He's their next door neighbor. Thing Yeah, it's just built
in conflict.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What are the odds that the teachers living right next door, Like,
come on.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I mean, I've heard that happened to like cousins and
stuff that live in like Iowa somewhere that's not you know,
l a necessarily And they're like, oh, yeah, they live
down the street from their teacher.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Is this common in Philadelphia? I would think it's in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Seems like a pretty big city, right, But they're probably
in the suburbs. Yeah, you know, you local neighborhood school.
They I don't know, I don't know. I don't know
what's going on with these people.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It just seems a little too convenient. But again, this
is six so of course they're going to set it
up like this for convenience, right, so they can have conflict.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
At least their backyard doesn't change.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Their backyard is very different.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yet I'm gonna wait, hold that judgment.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So Amy tells her husband that Corey got detention because
he didn't want to learn about the emotional content of
Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But I mean to argue he got detention because he
was listening to the Phillies game in class.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I mean, like, if you say what, you got detention
for it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's not the emotional content, but that's the story broke.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
He broke the broke a rule.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, you can't listen to the Phillies game. But
it's the thing.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yet it's an excellent setup for this next joke, exactly
where Ben Savage says, I'm a kid, I don't understand
the emotional content of full House. I screamed yes, like,
oh my god, we made it. Yes, we made it
into the pilot. Yes, boy meets the World fantastic. And
then Corey tries to turn things back to Eric, back
(17:38):
on to Eric, but his parents don't take his side.
Eric bought the tickets with his own money, Okay, so
he can bring whoever he'd like. All right, okay, I'll
give it to Eric this time. But I do think
it's felt bad for Ben Savage. You know, you just
want to go to this game with his brother, so
it will. At school the next day, Corey tells his
(18:00):
friends that he's now an orphan, and he decides that
he and his friends can just go to the baseball
game together. But there's this little matter of his detention,
Corey walks over to Feenie to try and sweet talk him,
but Feoenie has no interest in seeing him. During his
lunch break, however, we do see that Feenie has saved
a seat at his lunch table for a mystery woman. Now,
(18:23):
why don't they have like a teacher's lounge. Why is
Phoenie eating in the cafeteria where the kids are just
like adjacent to.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Him, Because it would be really hard to have a
scene where you see through a wall to what the.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Teachers are doing. That's really why.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, I get it. It's it's just again again.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's a small school.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Okay, again, suburbia. They don't have money for teachers lounges.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
There's no money for the teacher's lounge. Right, He's got
to just eat with all the other kids.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
All the kids got to live next door to one
of them. This is why he.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Hates children, because he has to eat his lunch with.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Them and lived at them around middle and lunch.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
God, no, wonder, yeah, wonder he hates good.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Blame mister Feenie. He's lived through a.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Lot, he really has. So that night, we see that
Corey has locked himself away in his treehouse, which I
think is a very cool little set for him. That's great. Like,
you don't see treehouses very often, so I was like, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Had a tree house in my neighborhood growing up. Not mine,
but it was directly across the street. We had like
a little club and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I love treehouses. I don't know if they're really around anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Like there's a couple of my neighborhood. Oh yeah, I
don't ever see children in them. But the kids are
like teenagers now that I see.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So yeah, I do love treehouses. Amy is very sweet.
She checks on him and brings him a dinner, Like
I love I love this mom. How she's not like
get out of the treehouse. Get you know, you got detention,
you're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
For great, stay in the treehouse attitude.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's some dinner, you're having some feelings, Go ahead and
have your feelings in your treehouse. Yeah, Like she's she's
an excellent mom. He lover. Uh. Corey realizes that he
can see inside Phoenie's house from this new vantage point.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
How was he never realized this before?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But it's weird, like this is just this feels voyeuristic
and just weird that he's spying on his teacher. Now, Like,
there's so many boundaries being violated right now that I'm like, well.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Again, very hard to write the scene through a fence
where he doesn't see him, So you've got to somehow
get over.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That, I guess. So it looks like Phoenie is setting
up a romantic dinner for two. But then Phoenie gets
a phone call and sad music starts to play, and
he hangs up the phone and takes that extra place,
setting away. Assume that he's been stood up on a date,
which is very Once the violins start playing, you know,
(20:48):
you're supposed to feel sad, but I felt mostly confused
why he like, had he only made a salad? Like
that was the whole day? He made a sad that
just a big salad. Yes, okay, you couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Throw it, that's it, you know what.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Maybe maybe he was making some sort of roast and
that was still in the ovens, so you know, you
eat the salad first.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You eat the salad first.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well is roasting, right, Well, it's resting.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You know, he's taking it out for a little bit,
so it's the resting.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay, So the roast is resting, and Phoenie is sad
that he's stood up. I still think it's weird that
he lives next door. I don't know. I'm not gonna
be able to get past that.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, I have a feeling that's going to stick for
the whole show. So yeah, if you're gonna watch anymore,
you might want to move on.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I'm also curious about how they're gonna write Phoenie into. Like,
so this show went for seven seasons. How do they
write the teacher. He's obviously a major character of the show.
He gets like second billing, So how do they keep
writing him for seven seasons? Don't you switch teacher every year?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I don't know, so I haven't seen the rest of
the show.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Wait, Maddie's given they made him their teacher every year?
What that's weird. I mean, that's one way to write
him into every season. But right, that never happen even
in high school. That doesn't That.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Doesn't mean I have the same math teacher for three years.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But that was well okay, but not the same one
you had when you were eleven in sixth grade, you know,
he said, yeah, he even had.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Him go to college with them. Now it's becoming this
is sorry.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We're getting notes from Maddie as we're discussing, like wait
a minute, this is weird, and she's.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Like, oh wait, just wait to get weird. It's weirder.
He goes to college. Okay, well, but you know what,
here's the thing. What I'm glad to know that other
shows also do stupid it like Full House did. It's
very true, doesn't really matter. You just got to make
it work and.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Reality be damned, you know so at least I like
I feel like, huh, yeah, you guys did it too.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
See, yeah, this doesn't make me feel little bit better about.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like asteroid sized plot holes all in the place.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
So funny. Okay, So Corey goes back in the house
and Amy catches him. He says he's not state. Amy
relates Corey's feelings of abandonment to his dad. His dad
felt abandoned when Corey no longer wanted to play football
with him after school, and so the mom explains how
(23:29):
people grow up and priorities change and that's all natural.
Good lesson. Yeah, another good lesson from mom. And next
a great scene where Corey is stuck in detention with
Foenie and this is masterful like this.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
The two of them are so good in the scene.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
They're so good together. I like they I want to
see what their chemistry test was like like before they
started taping this, Like it's just fantastic. Yeah. So, despite
Cory's best efforts, Foenie will not talk to him, and
he's like getting up, he's dancing, he's doing all of
these distracting things. And Phoenie is just stonefaced grading his
(24:09):
papers and will not give him the time of day.
So Corey states that love leads to no good and
he's certain that Feoene agrees with him. When Foene questions this,
Corey admits to seeing him eat alone last night. Get curtains, buddy, right,
(24:29):
it's very jarring. So Phoenie is very adamant that he
believes in the power of love, and he uses the
Matthews family as the perfect example. The family was created
because two people fell in love. He tells Corey that
people who don't recognize the value of love will be
stuck in detention for the rest of their lives. All right,
(24:51):
He's made this a teachable moment. All of this is
whether from Shakespeare to Eric leaving Ben Savage for the girlfriends,
to take the girlfriend to the game, to familiar, to change.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
People move on, not mister Feenie, He'll be with you forever, right,
he'll be, But other people's priorities change and they move on.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now I know that Ben Savage and Topanga get married.
Was he is he at the wedding? Does he officiate
the wedding? Like?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I got so much questions. I don't know the first
time I've watched the show.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I'm just wondering, Like, I'm just wondering out loud, like
married Ben Savage and Daniel Fishel, their characters get married
by the end of the series. Oh so yeah, But
I don't know anything.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I'm sure I've heard it in passing. I'm probably that's weird.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, they were like they were a couple of goals
back in the nineties. They were it was like every
guy wanted Topanga and I don't know if they wanted
to be Ben Savage, but they Yeah, so they got married,
and I don't know. I kind of want to watch
the rest of the series how to find out that
these questions what happened? Yeah, I might, I might. I
might be a new fan of Boy Meets the World. Uh,
(26:05):
so Cory sneaks back into the house, and this time
the little sister catches him. He begs her not to
tell anyone, but she ignores him and shouts Corey's home
for the entire house to hear. The dad meets him
in the living room and Corey uses this opportunity to
tell him that he'd like to move back, and then
he apologizes for ditching him for his friends, but Alan
(26:27):
is glad that Corey has friends. I don't think Alan
was really upset about this, like the not playing football
with him, Like Alic's just like, hey, I'm glad you
got friends.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But I think that was the point, right, was that, Like, Okay,
he was bummed at first, like that you have, but
actually I'm really glad you have friends, and I'm glad
you have. You're supposed to do that, like mom said,
that's totally natural, Like, you know, it feels bad at first,
but honestly, the other person is doing exactly what they're
supposed to be doing, so it's not you know.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I think that that was kind of what I took
from it. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Okay, well, this dad seems way more involved or evil
not involved evolved. Then the full house dads because they
always put themselves first and they're always like, you've hurt
my feelings.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right, Well, there's a mom in the house, so you know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, the emotional needs are getting met because there's a
mom in that. That's right. I'm not used to seeing
a mom in on a sitcom. This is revolutionary and
she's fantastic. She's like the ideal bomb. So next Corey's
playing video games up in his room and Eric walks in.
He had a terrible date. He was clumsy, he was embarrassing,
(27:33):
he had nothing to say, and he says, I'll never
go on another date with Heather ever. Again, Corey knows
that's not true. Even though she's Corey's nemesis. He urges
his brother to call her. Okay, so that's good they
you know, I think Ben Savage is evolving here.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Jane Lessons paying off.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
He's like, oh you know, and the dad Lesson like, okay, actually,
this is what you're supposed to be doing, Like this
isn't let me be a good little brother.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I will give the writer his flowers for this, because
this was a great way to involve almost every cat yep,
basically every cast member because even with the little sister.
He decides to play tea party with the little sister too,
So it's like, yes, the writer has somehow involved every
character into this lesson on life different kinds of love.
So that's actually very well done. So yeah, last scenes,
(28:22):
or one of the last scenes, Corey is sitting with
Morgan and joining her for tea. He tells her that
he'll always be there for her no matter how old
he gets, and he asks her that she'll never stop
inviting him to tea parties. Very sweet, very cute.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
When Amy tells Morgan to head upstairs and get ready
for bed, Corey asks if they can finish their tea party,
and he even offers to put Morgan to bed. When
Amy notices the change of heart, Corey just admits, I
don't understand anything about my life. Same Corey.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I was gonna say, wow, doesn't really change.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He's very self aware for an eleven year old.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Morgan gives him a hugging and kiss on the cheek
and all he has to say is, uh, yeah, thanks
for that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This was a very again, very sweet scene. You can
see how Corey's evolved over the last twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, you're like, okay, okay, get's paying attention.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, it's very cute, and I love how the little
girl just chucked her doll. Oh she chucked him and
was like, forget it. Look, then my big brother is here.
I don't want, don't need a doll anymore. And then last, last,
but certainly not least, the boys are spying on Phoenie
having lunch with the same woman yet again. Phoanie finally
(29:36):
asks this woman to dinner and she says yes. He
boasts about being a good cook, admitting he made dinner
for his sister the other night but she had to cancel.
Corey is obviously confused, and Phoene says that that's the
way it should be. Plot twist. I wasn't expecting that
to be the sister. I really thought he on a date. Yeah,
(29:59):
you know, I don't know if they needed this little tag,
this little I don't know if they even needed this scene.
I kind of thought it was the end with the
tea party and the sister.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But yeah, but but I liked it because it also
it would like reminded the kids, like, you don't always
know what you're talking about, so don't take things out
of context and think.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That you're right when you.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Don't make snap judgments when it could be one of anything.
So yeah, okay, but I love this pilot.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I thought it was really cute. I was glad that
I watched it.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I can't joke with them and laugh with them and
at them at the ridiculousness of the pilot.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Too, so ridiculous. And we didn't I didn't mention writer,
but right strong. He is so strong from the jump,
like he's cool and moody and I'm just like he
had like four lines, but he was so strong.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, he was so shorn. Yeah, exactly, Sean.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And it's hysterical just knowing how they grew up to
be and how they are now. It's it's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I really enjoyed this. I can see why fans loved it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, I can't too. So uh it was great. Guy
Boy Meets World cast well done.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Boy Meets World. Yes, it's you know, it was funny
as it is the full House pilot, but very close,
very very.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But but it's cute, you know what I mean. It
was cute. It's it's up there, up.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
There, yeah, and it's I feel like full House was
definitely more of a family like younger children, family focused shit,
and this is it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Has a family, middle school teenage.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, I think the school is the main setting in
the family background.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
The kids and a younger audience, not.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Necessarily the whole family, the whole family as much.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yes, I totally agree. I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I kind of like it.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I don't know, I like I like that it's just
kid focused, But I don't know. Full House was kind
of a bigger cultural phenomenon than Boy Meets World. I
think I'm okay saying that true. Well, yeah, as far
as like people quoting catchphrases, memes that are out there,
you know, the just the buzz surrounding our show, and
the loyalty. I mean, I don't know, I feel like
Boy Meets World fans are pretty damn Yes, I'm not
(32:10):
going to say they're more loyal than than Full House.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I have experience with the Full House fans, so I
can't speak for the Boy Meets World ones, but I
do I think, you know, uh yeah, this was full
House was for a totally not a totally different audience,
but for I think more of a co viewing experience.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This was like, yes, this was.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
This was a you know again, an ABC sitcom. It
was the whole family would enjoy it, but it centered
around the kids in a way that made them more
friendly to like tweens and teenagers as they grew up.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
So yeah, I wonder if it was easier to write
for because you didn't have so many fractured You got,
you know, a five year old and then the grandparents.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You've got three families existing in the same space.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Basically, so you just have to focus on the kids
and their friendships and their romances.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
And you can write a little bit more clever and
bantery for older kids, you know, than you can so
but no.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I loved it. I'm so glad we watched that. This
was great.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
This was very super cute. Yep, loved it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I might have to watch a few more episodes.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Watch and keep me posted.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I will.
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, I don't know go watch The Boy Meets World Pilot.
It's cute, great, it's very funny.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, tell tell us what you thought. I mean, if
you are a fan of both shows, just give us
your opinions.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Not Maybe there's people out there that also have never
watched The Boy Meets World Pilot and give their thoughts. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
let us know you guys. We love to hear from you.
And remember the world is small.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
The house is full of love, full of love. There's
love everywhere. The whole show was about love.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Love is love.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Yep, it's true game up for mister Feeney because I
was his sister.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So it sounds like he's in love with her, but
he loves her, you know, still.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
A different type of love. Yeah, and he's ready to
get it on with that the teacher from the cafeteria.
So go Feenie, right, bye and bye
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Jodie Sweetin
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