April 4, 2025 • 4 mins
Ahead of Eva's show, Searching for Spain, we rewind to season one when Maite visited Eva in Spain to discuss the history of wine in Mexico!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You guys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
In honor of the premiere of Searching for Spain, we
wanted to give you a little extra taste Bud exclusive.
Here's a bit from our wine episode from season one
about Mexican wine. Enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I totally get how wine made it to New Spain. Yeah,
just because obviously the conquest. But most people don't associate
wine with Mexico.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No, not at all, they really don't. It's not really
a wine drink. I mean, people drink wine, but when
you think of Mexican alcohol, you think of the Quilao,
you think of Mesco, you don't think of wine. Right. So,
and it was the first country in the Americas to
have wine, to make wine, it was the very first one.
The first wine plants were planted in fifteen twenty four,
(00:51):
so just three years after the conquest. But just like
olive oil, right that we talked about, Olive oil was
banned in seventeen seventy seven, King Turls the third said
no more olive oil, because you're competing with our olive oil.
So this similar thing happened with wine one hundred years earlier.
(01:11):
In sixteen ninety nine, King Turles the Second of Spain
issued an edict prohibiting wine production. No more wine production.
You could only produce wine, Sacramento wine. That's it, just
for the charts. So of course the priests were making
wines and the nuns and the nuns they weren't just
using it for you know, for church purposes. Wine making
(01:32):
remained in the hands of the clergy for over a century,
and then after the Mexican independence in eighteen twenty nine,
wine making was no longer prohibited, so, right, wine making
for personal purposes was no longer prohibited, So that is
when the production of wine in Mexico began to rise again.
(01:53):
So it was basically smashed for about two hundred years.
So and like you said, yes, Mexican wine, it's not
really no owned for its wine, and this is why
it's not really known for its olive oil. And basically
this is why because the Spaniards didn't want any competition.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Right, but Mexican the Mexican Revolution also affected anybody who
had a vineyard in Mexico because they just they were
left unattended. All that everybody had to go to war.
They fought that it was like this huge revolution, so
a lot of the lands were destroyed or like abandoned
by their owners. So that also set back the wine
industry in Mexico. They've had all these obstacles, so.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Many obstacles over the centuries.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Did it even have the climate for it? Yeah, there was, Yeah,
the very right wine in Mexico's only in Baya that Guadalupe.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, only ten percent of Mexico grows wine right via
the Walla Looope is the one that's most known for
wine right now. It's sort of like a big up,
a big up and coming thing, and it's beautiful. It
hasn't amazing whites, by the way. But the first commercially
produced wine in Mexico dates to fifteen ninety seven. This
(02:58):
is in the oldest vineyard in Mexico fifteen ninety seven
that was producing commercially is in Guawela and northern Mexico,
Casa Mareo. It's still around today. And it was by
Osebio Kun. He was an Italian.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Of course, it was Italian, of course, this is why
I like Italian wine.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
An Italian but priest. He was a priest, he was
our carotographer. He was a geographer commonly referred to as Paquino.
And there's a wine called Pattiquino. I remember, I want it.
I remember that my grandfather used to drink this wine.
She was all about the Mexican wines. It was like
a bulbous bottle and it had like a woven net
around it, around it. I think it was a good,
(03:40):
cheap wine. I think it still is a cheap. This
is when he used to drink, and it was like
a thing.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It said that the local grapevines did not produce wine
of a caliber satisfactory to Spanish colonizers.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Right, so my grandfather drank it. Thank you for listening
to this bonus episode of Hungry for History. Listened to
hung from the very beginning by enjoying all of season
one right now, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Hungary for History is a Hyphenite media production in partnership
with Iheart's Michael Fura podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
For more of your favorite shows, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
You guys.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
In honor of the premiere of Searching for Spain, we
wanted to give you a little extra taste Bud exclusive.
Here's a bit from our wine episode from season one
about Mexican wine. Enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I totally get how wine made it to New Spain. Yeah,
just because obviously the conquest. But most people don't associate
wine with Mexico.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
No, not at all, they really don't. It's not really
a wine drink. I mean, people drink wine, but when
you think of Mexican alcohol, you think of the Quilao,
you think of Mesco, you don't think of wine. Right. So,
and it was the first country in the Americas to
have wine, to make wine, it was the very first one.
The first wine plants were planted in fifteen twenty four,
(00:51):
so just three years after the conquest. But just like
olive oil, right that we talked about, Olive oil was
banned in seventeen seventy seven, King Turls the third said
no more olive oil, because you're competing with our olive oil.
So this similar thing happened with wine one hundred years earlier.
(01:11):
In sixteen ninety nine, King Turles the Second of Spain
issued an edict prohibiting wine production. No more wine production.
You could only produce wine, Sacramento wine. That's it, just
for the charts. So of course the priests were making
wines and the nuns and the nuns they weren't just
using it for you know, for church purposes. Wine making
(01:32):
remained in the hands of the clergy for over a century,
and then after the Mexican independence in eighteen twenty nine,
wine making was no longer prohibited, so, right, wine making
for personal purposes was no longer prohibited, So that is
when the production of wine in Mexico began to rise again.
(01:53):
So it was basically smashed for about two hundred years.
So and like you said, yes, Mexican wine, it's not
really no owned for its wine, and this is why
it's not really known for its olive oil. And basically
this is why because the Spaniards didn't want any competition.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Right, but Mexican the Mexican Revolution also affected anybody who
had a vineyard in Mexico because they just they were
left unattended. All that everybody had to go to war.
They fought that it was like this huge revolution, so
a lot of the lands were destroyed or like abandoned
by their owners. So that also set back the wine
industry in Mexico. They've had all these obstacles, so.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Many obstacles over the centuries.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Did it even have the climate for it? Yeah, there was, Yeah,
the very right wine in Mexico's only in Baya that Guadalupe.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, only ten percent of Mexico grows wine right via
the Walla Looope is the one that's most known for
wine right now. It's sort of like a big up,
a big up and coming thing, and it's beautiful. It
hasn't amazing whites, by the way. But the first commercially
produced wine in Mexico dates to fifteen ninety seven. This
(02:58):
is in the oldest vineyard in Mexico fifteen ninety seven
that was producing commercially is in Guawela and northern Mexico,
Casa Mareo. It's still around today. And it was by
Osebio Kun. He was an Italian.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Of course, it was Italian, of course, this is why
I like Italian wine.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
An Italian but priest. He was a priest, he was
our carotographer. He was a geographer commonly referred to as Paquino.
And there's a wine called Pattiquino. I remember, I want it.
I remember that my grandfather used to drink this wine.
She was all about the Mexican wines. It was like
a bulbous bottle and it had like a woven net
around it, around it. I think it was a good,
(03:40):
cheap wine. I think it still is a cheap. This
is when he used to drink, and it was like
a thing.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It said that the local grapevines did not produce wine
of a caliber satisfactory to Spanish colonizers.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Right, so my grandfather drank it. Thank you for listening
to this bonus episode of Hungry for History. Listened to
hung from the very beginning by enjoying all of season
one right now, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Hungary for History is a Hyphenite media production in partnership
with Iheart's Michael Fura podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
For more of your favorite shows, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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