September 27, 2021 • 67 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all In. I Am all In with Scott
Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson
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and this is the I Am All In Podcast with
I Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And I am
joined by my ball club here in my team, Amy Sugarman,
Danielle Romo, Riley Prius, Priests Price Priceless, Riley Priceless, Riley
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Price Delicious. You know, I feel bad because after Milo
and Isaac, people are stuck back with us again. So
it's like we feel a little bad about what. I
don't feel bad. I think they. I think there are
four combined personalities make up two of theirs. I think
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I think the math works out for us somewhat. People
shaking their heads all over the world because we read
the reviews and so when we read the reviews, we
know the truth. No, I you know what, I I
stopped reading them. Sometimes they're very painful because we're just
you're trying to love a love a show. It's it. Yeah,
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the personal invective, I feel is unnecessary, but I think
it's character building. Yeah, it does make you stronger. Ry
you cry the first you know a hundred and then
you're like, oh, I don't have any tears left, character
character building experiences. They're taking me down a bunch of notches.
And I just was like, what, I'm reading your guys,
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and I'm like, God, I hope that doesn't happened to me.
And then I'll read one that's happening to me. Now, Yeah,
they are, you know, they come after anybody doesn't. But
we love them. We love them all and we're trying
to do what they say. I will say that we
read the reviews and we go, okay, good note. We're
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going to try that, we're taking We're good about that.
We we implement a lot of the ideas coming from
these very personal missives, shall we Communications well, Emily and Wonderland.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts because I have
a lot Emily and Wonderland. You know, it just it
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just really hit me how desperate Emily is to have
a great relationship. She's got all this stored up love
and and and and wants to shower Rory with it
and all the love and excitement that she could not
shower on Lauraa because Laura I left and it was
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just she's been waiting for so long and now she
has her chance. And you know, I was discussing this
with my wife. I said, you know, Emily is just
she was devastated when they walked into the shed. Uh.
And I mean that was a very very powerful moment
of the entire series so far. And m and made
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Rory a room and called her and asked her what
she loved the most, what colors and what band and
you know what flowers your favorite? Made her this beautiful room,
and and you know, I guess Laurela I didn't really
have much of a problem with it a little bit.
I mean, she was a little taken aback, right, and
you can can't not expect that, right, Um but I
think I think Emily was justified. And from her point
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of view, like did you really hate us that much? Yeah?
Where you know, you you denied yourself a relationship with
us to live in a shed with you know, was
with shovels, leaning up against the wall with your baby
daughter and feeding ducks. And I mean, like what, I
don't blame her, but um, so I was having this
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conversation with my wife and she she explained that you know,
the mother daughter dynamic is fucking be far more overbearing
than you know, the obviously the grandmother granddaughter dynamic. So
there's a lot of pressure for I guess the young
Laurel I to become like Emily. I think Emily wanted
her be like her, and there was just this overbearing,
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her overbearing nature to keep the family dynasty going and
to keep the traditions going. And it was you know,
everything is very at a at a a certain level,
very superficial, and appearances must be kept up. And and
this is just how it has to go. This is
how it Gilmore behaves, This is how it Gilmore speaks,
this is how it Gilmore. Uh you know, this is
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how it Gilmore lives. And uh, Laurel I just was
not down for it. And the more pressure you put
on her, the more she's going to go away. Yeah.
And it's like, you know, it's you know the Paris
Hilton story, right, It's like it's like, well, if you
my I don't know about that. My wife informed me about.
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She made a comparison. She did, she did, she made
a comparison. Yeah. I I felt like Emily was justified
in the way she felt. It's the way she expresses
it that comes across very harsh. And I think then
it really pushes Lorala away because if Emily would approach
it differently and say, it broke my heart to see
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that when we would have been here for you, why
did that happen the way it did? And what was
interesting is Rory brings it up later when they're walking
after they left, and said, do you think the two
of you will ever really communicate about it? Noope? Yeah,
she said, no interesting, no way. And and you know
who would sit there and tolerate the And here's another
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interesting thing that came up. And it's like, you know,
during the opening scene, the dinner scene, Hey, you know,
and I couldn't find two additional chairs. I'm to two
chairs short of a set. And laurealizes also, and I
realized that, you know, the only the only reason Emily
is taking this is to be with her granddaughter. She's
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tolerating all of that, all of those, all the sarcasm
and all the hatred and all the insults. Um, she's
just and Laurel I probably feels like she's just giving
it back to her mom when her mom gave her.
You make a great point, but it's not how anybody
in the real world would ever interact with their family.
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It wouldn't happen all of every And this is why
I think I think Laurel is one of the more
interesting characters in the history of television because it's all
subtext that's being expressed. M this is all the stuff
that nobody ever said, but now she says, she's saying it. Yeah.
Rory and Richard don't communicate the way Emily and Laura
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la I do. They come much from a more reserved
way and with more kindness. Laura and Emily just have
this stabby snarkiness when they go at it justified, but
it's me, but it's also Laura. La also extends this
to all other characters in the drama. I mean she's
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sub textual. She verbalizes subtext with me. She does it
with Rachel, all those quippy little jokes with Rachel, she
does it with everyone, and especially with Luke. It's comes
from a place of more love and kindness. But even
the jokes when you come when she's in the apartment.
And then the scene which will will discuss all this.
But the scene in the stock room was really cool, right,
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I do have great scene, great scene, but but so
but you know, for me, its like it makes me
feel like, you know, Amy is writing. The writing is
influenced by her father because it feels like stick you know,
not in a negative sense, but it feels like, Okay,
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I'm gonna make a lead character obviously. You know. Laureli
is what Amy maybe wishes she was or a version
of herself. Um that it physically looks like this and
verbalizes all this sort of like kind of sticky comedian stuff.
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Her dad was a I don't know if her dad
was a huge I don't know if her dad was
a huge comedian, but he was in that circle of
all those big comedians. So that's what she grew up.
But but I like it. I do too. I mean,
it's very funny and fast and fast and funny. I'm
a big fan of fast and funny. But it's interesting.
So that's why people like watching this shows because it's
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all the because it's all the things that they want
to say that nobody in the real world would ever say,
and you miss things so when you're that's like you know,
Isaac even talked about it that he would just watch
it through and watch it through again. It's that kind
of show because you you no matter what you missed stuff,
so when you're watching again, it's like fresh content. So
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you're just like, oh my god. And it's so dense
and so fast that there's no way the human brain
could like even retain it all. So you're just getting
fresh episodes each time you go around the loop of
the whole series. Very interesting device, very very interesting way
to approach you. Television really is very clever. If there's
so much ping pong thing between Luke and Lora La,
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and it is so fast, and it is so there's
so many callbacks too, even with the curtains. You know
they're up in the apartment and there's the reference to
the curtains, and then of course we get the call back.
And that's why you're just like, oh my god, this
show is so clever and you love it because you're
just like, yep, the curtains, you know, like it's just
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and I mean even when Rachel says, did you tell
me about the Hot Fashion show? Like, it was just
like and there's so much and it's so fast, it's
all but yeah, but it's all stick. It's like, oh yeah,
oh those those photographs of Luke and I are are you?
And lucre In the bathroom and Laura, I so don't
want to know why. You know, it's always something. It's
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like bam, bam bam, which is why when you get
those scenes where the stick is gone, they're that much
more powerful because you're like, and that's why you just
get this lump in your boat and this hurt in
your chest because you're like, oh god, it's just not real.
Just got real, and it gets so real, and it's
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just very clever. It's just a very clever device, you know,
and it's and it's and it's constant. Must have been
fun to really must have been so much fun to
play that, you know, it must have been so much
fun for Lauren Graham to to just execute all of
those great lines. I mean, how much fun to sit
down and read those scripts and being the table read
and read all those scripts. And I remember those table reads.
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I mean, she was just like she was getting laughs
at the tabs like you would get on a high,
do you know what I mean? Like as you're going
through those scenes, and the adrenaline is kind of going
and it feels like such a rush because the way
the scenes are, it's just like a dance, you know,
And so I was gonna ask you, like, do you
remember I would almost think you are exhausted at the
end of the day because you're just going and going
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and going. It's I mean, we're doing is as comedy,
but at the end of the day, it's aggressive hostility
toward herself, toward other characters, toward her mother, towards me,
to where I mean, it's all deflecting, and it's it's denial,
it's you know, it's all that stuff. So it's so
it's a little bit draining on your energy. Um, but
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to play it, it's fun and to be the straight
man to all those great lines is fun because it's
all about timing, you know. It's like it's it's it's
all that can time, and she does it so beautifully.
I can't wait to get her on the show. Can
you make a comparison between your work on this show
and your work on say the Event, Oh God night
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and so different? What is that? Can you give me
a little like you're sort of what it feels like?
Was this more fun? Well? Yeah, okay, So the next
series I did after Gilmore was called Aliens in America,
and that was really great comedy writing as well. It
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was just a different kind you know. It was like
half hour sitcom writing in in a in a single
camera format, you know what I mean. So it felt
a little more real. But it had those and it
was it was an all star team of comedy writers
because nobody was doing half hour anymore. And so we
had these all these uh Emmy winning showrunners on the
staff and we were just on the writing staff, and
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the and the and the three show runners were like these,
you know, these giants of comedy business. So was that
more comparable to your experience on Gilmore Girls? A little bit? Not?
The time, there was some timing differences. It wasn't so
like one character just dominating the entire thing, like you
know the way the way laurelized characters sort of like
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you know, goes through every single character like that, like
a like a comedic buzz saw. Um, and we're sort
of following her narrative and we you know, we'll follow
Rory too, but it always comes back to her and
her and Rory and her mom and her her mom
and her and Luke and you know, um, so she's
she's the core of the show. But um, but then
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when I got to the event in two thousand and ten.
It was like, this is a drama. There's nothing funny
about this. Um. You know, they had some issues with
the writing because they changed. The original show runner got
swapped out for somebody who, in my opinion, had no
feel for this type of material. And it was odd.
It was very difficult to do. It was really it
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was not your same experience. You had a very very
difficult to do because it was it was kind of confusing.
It was a show that was kind of all over
the place in terms of I loved the show, but
I was sort of like we just happened, like you
thought this is going to be, so it was sort
of ahead of its time where you're like, oh, this
is so but it was sort of being but it
was being retooled in real in the moment, so you
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can't really do that and pull up but anyway, but
Gilmore was definitely those shows like do you feel like
Gilmore was so much more of a family for you
as opposed to these other shows. I was thinking about
that today when I I because I watched the episode
again right before we came on the air, and this is,
you know, the scene in the diner scenes with Rachel
and Lorela, and I just thought I missed that set.
You know, I miss that job. I really miss having
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that job because it was a family feeling, you know,
and it was like that was our you know, the
back lot of Warner Brothers was our real estate. That
was ours. The entire back lot of Warner Brothers was
stars Hollow and we were there for seven years, and
I just got it was great. That was great to
be on that and I think we felt it as
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every guest has come on. But really with Milo, it
was like, wow, you really got the the closeness between
the two of you. And then I think what I
experienced with Isaac was he was very He expressed so
well his love for the show better than any of
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us are ever able to communicate it. And then I
was like, wow, like it is so heartwarming. It just
is like the what this show did for you all,
but also for the audience. It just people just love
it so much. And I think maybe we're getting nostalgic
already because we're coming, you know, we're getting closer to
the end of season one in our recaps, and so
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I am starting to think, like, wow, this show really
means a lot to people. Oh without question, and it
should because it's all sort of shared experiences. I mean,
everybody could relate to these because everybody can sort of
pick and choose what experiences they've had, and they've they're
highlighted in the show. Um, these are all universal themes, right.
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So in the stock room, I think what stood out
to me is and I am like a terrible actor,
so I would never be able to do this. It's
the glance. So you two are talking and she sort
of says, I mean unless there's something, you know, like
standing in your way, and you're like, no, you know,
there's nothing standing my way. But the expressions on both
your faces is like we love each other. Right, It's
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like a couple of riverboat gamblers holding holding great hands
and nobody's gonna and it was just like just bluffing
each other. Wow. And I think Lauren, when I watch
laurealized expressions, she's so talented because not only does she
deliver like the funny lines so perfectly, but she delivers
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a facial expression just a tiny little thing and you
you so get it. And that's what I thought in
the stock room was like, and obviously that was the intention,
but boy did it work, because you're like, Wow, why
do you to not just tell each other? She had
you know, she has that job of appearing vulnerable but
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still guarded and still doesn't want to let in let
on to me what her intentions really are, but it's
kind of obvious to an audience watching. Yeah, and she's
you know, I do like her relationship with Rachel. They
do seem like, you know, I don't think I don't
think Laura is like a backstabber. She's not going to
tell Rachel these things and support Rachel and tell you
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to date Rachel and then suddenly like kiss you in
the stock room, do you know what I mean? Like
that is not her move. She's not that. She's very genuine,
so she really you believe that she does want you
to be happy. And then in the movie theater scene
when Rory and Lorela are seeing you guys, and he
looks happy, doesn't he? But there's just that little part
that's like, he looks happy. I'm so happy for him,
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except my heart is breaking a little bit. And isn't
an interesting how they keep those worlds separated. The Gilmore
world is one world. Luke's the stars Hollow world is
another world. And Luke's world isn't is a completely separate
universe and they and rarely do they they cross the
streams and when they do it can be very explosive.
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But but yeah, you know the dynamic between I mean,
Rory is the sweetest person. God, she a smart sweet
just the way she is with her grandma and taking
her around the town and getting her the sneakers, and
I mean, there was so much in this episode. The
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scene between Mrs Kim and Emily is so genius with
the two of them negotiating over the furniture, and Lane
and Rory are watching and like, I wish we had
some popcorn, you know, like and that's just one little
scene in this episode and that wasn't even like really
a major thing, and you just you're like, god, this
there's so much happening. And Kirk was amazing in this episode.
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And you and Rachel, and the triangle between you, Rachel
and Lorela is a whole thing in itself, because you
are uncomfortable with their friendship. You don't want to say it,
and why are they becoming friends? And then the three
of you, I mean, it's just oh so much. Yeah,
one of the funnier moments for me. Well, I'll just
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tell you right now, the best moment, the two best
moments in that whole the whole show. We're unique and Ruin.
I mean that unique Ruin scene just had me in tears.
I mean, what do you have so many to choose from?
I can't wait till Riley tries to re enact that
scene and no, no, we should do that. Riley, are
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you ready for a French accent? You gotta, you gotta
give it a shot. And who's gonna be ruined? I'm
not going to be ruined, Amy, you gotta. I can't
even be rude. It was so funny because when we
were preparing for this episode, we were talking about you know,
who's who's is on the episode, and Daniel's like, you know,
run comes back on this episode. And I literally said
to Daniel, I think we've all had enough and it's
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just a little did we know that we did not
have enough of him? Because here he was. Megan is
laughing again, Oh my god. I mean Trusdale, what a
great scene that and his scene with Emily. Riley, try
and do a little Michelle. What was the line against
I'm sorry you must be in the wrong place. Perhaps
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you should be in the Y M c A or
a bus depot. I feel like you need eyebrows when
you do. I'm sorry, You're on the wrong place. You
must be looking for the Russians. Do try again, try again,
Deep in the throat, deep in the throat. M you
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must be you must be in the wrong always comes
out Russian. No one thinks this is funny, but us,
we think it's so funny that we're just gonna keep
doing it because everyone's like, yeah, that part's not funny,
and we're like, it's so hilarious it is. I love Michelle,
Oh god, what I care? How about the met how
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about the meaning? Really quick? We just need to play
one little clip really quick. Don't bring on our curt Easton.
Can you do one more? Just one more? Do the
scott one? Do you know? Maybe? Time good? So funny.
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And then in the in the theater with Laureli, she
says to Kirk, no, no, you got you. You need
a little seed to fin on middle pan. You don't
want to be a driving a tractor with that and
get drowsy. She did it with a little Southern accents.
I love, And she's like, you got a cold. So good,
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so good, the whole thing. Okay, I know we need
to take a break. When we come back. I want
to hear what you think of Luke and Rachel. Okay,
all right, when we come back after these messages where
you're gonna get my thoughts on Luke and Rachel and
you might be a little bit surprised anyway, we'll be
back after that. Yeah, alright, so we're back everybody. Uh,
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Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I heart radio.
I want to live productions. We're going to discuss what
do we want to discuss? What I think of Luke
and Rachel. I want to talk about Luke and Rachel.
Amy you want you want to get into that. Pardon me,
we're having a small problem. You can talk to us.
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We're here for you. I need to know about Luke
and Rachel because I you tell me, you tell me.
I just want to listen to your thoughts. I just
he seems happy, you know, It's just you know, look,
when you have a character like Rachel with a history
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of abandoning and running scared repeatedly, then that's what's going
to happen. You know, That's what they're training the audience
to expect it and to get ready for it, because
no matter how good it gets, it's coming again. Um.
And that's basically how I feel about it. And he's,
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you know, he's he's being very guarded because he Oh
my god, I mean, how can he Here's the thing
that confuses me and I played it is he in
love with Rachel or is he in love with Laurel I?
And I think I think that he is trying. I
think there are residual feelings for Rachel that he can't avoid,
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but they aren't as deep as his feelings for Laurel I.
And he's there's he has no choice, but life thrown
him this, you know, this sort of situation, and he's
doing the best he can with it because you know,
he's not a he's not a jerk. He's not going
to be mean to Rachel, right, So he's kind of
hanging in there as a as much of a friend
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and and a lover and a boyfriend as he can
because it's almost like an obligation. It's the right thing
to do, but so accurate. I think you're I think
that is exactly what how it landed to me, And
that when Rachel was on the scene. There was no
laure Lae yet we know that we know the timeline
is a little fishy and maybe they had briefly met whatever.
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So so Rachel leaves him and he was heartbroken about it,
and we know that we know the town has made
it clear to us that you were heartbroken. So when
you're heartbroken, all you want is if she would just
come back to me, if she would just come back
to me, if she would just come back to me. Well,
interestingly enough, she did, so he's like, ah, this is
what I wanted. But little did you know during that
(25:03):
time you fell in love with somebody else, way more,
way deeper. But it's still like it's not a thing yet.
So it's like, I think he's happy with Rachel, and
it seems very comfortable and very real and authentic and
genuine and they really do love each other. Ye And
she's not his soul mate anymore, and she knows it,
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which is why you're not even that stressing about when
she's gonna leave. You're just gonna like she's gonna go.
That is that is not a man in love. You
can tell at the movie theaters too, about like they
kind of had a little p d A. But then
he would turn back and look at Laura La, and
then Laura I would look at him, and you know,
you can tell exactly what you just said just in
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that scene a lot, And like we talked about, you're
not gonna like kiss her in the stock room, She's
not going to kiss you in the stock room. There's
none of that. It's not like it's going to be scandalous.
It's just like, I guess, just like you've been waiting
for Lorelei through Max and Lord knows who else is coming,
she's got to do the same for you, and it's
just these two are going to be waiting. I think
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Laura La allows Luke to be who he really is
and and Laura La accepts him for what he is
and he gets frustrated and a little angry and a
little curmudgeonly, and she delights in that. She likes that,
and he's a different person with Rachel and I just
feel like I don't think he's putting on an act
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with Rachel. I just think he's kind of out of
his comfort zone with her. Now I have a question.
There was something that I didn't totally get in this episode,
and it was like, I wanted to get it. I
knew it was important, and I was like, why am
I not understanding this? The very last scene, Laura Lee
and roriore drinking the coffee and they both say, does
(26:50):
this taste different to you? Can you explain to me
what that was? What that meant? What was that that?
She's Rachel's not being a good influence on Luke. He's
off center. He's he's not as sure of himself. He
you know, his world, whatever his world was before Rachel
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or getting over Rachel and kind of you know, flirting
around with Laurela and almost popping the you know you
want to go out questions on several several times. Um
is That's who he is. That's he's solidly feed on
the ground. That's him. And he loves her and he's
pining for her. He's not thinking about Rachel. I mean,
(27:34):
you might think about her in passing, but I don't.
I think his mind is occupied with scenarios of his
future with Laurel I I do. And he really, truly, truly,
deeply loves her to the point where he's stand office
somewhat and really having to build up the courage and
take the chance that she'll say no, because that takes
(27:55):
a lot of guts. I mean, the more you like
a girl, the more of a coward you become in
certain situations because you don't want to hear that no.
And I think he's in that place with with with
with Laurela obviously, but with Rachel, it's like he's not himself.
He's not being himself. It's not a version of him
that everyone's going to work out with her. And I
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think maybe he's realizing it. He had to be a
certain way to please her. That's not him. Maybe that's
part of the reason that she left, because it's not right.
She left because it just she didn't feel right in
the dynamic. He didn't feel right in that dyn ount.
There was something you know, there were a couple of
false notes being hit there. So you know, why, if
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if it was so great, why is she running off?
I mean, and plus you know she wanted to travel
and the whole thing, and he never wants to town.
But but but yeah, the coffee indicates that the coffee
that tastes different indicates that something something. Obviously, something's a
little off here. Yes, something's a little off, And that
gives Lauren Hope and and concerned for her friend who
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she loves, because is she doing the right thing by
carrying out Rachel's requests to sort of close the deal
for her? And it's kind of a strange dynamics. She
finds herself very weird. Now she realizes that she probably
shouldn't be doing that because the coffee is off. Luke's
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not himself. I love him. He's my friend and he
maybe he's going to be my boyfriend, and may I
wish he was? And I wish you'd get to, you know,
grow up here and finally, you know, like get over
here and let's let's start this thing. Yeah, I don't Actually,
I don't think we're overthinking this. I think that everything
you're saying is at play. There is more going on
here than everyone's using in their words. I I I could,
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I think to myself and I we're thinking this. Am
I reading too much into it? It's like, no, I
think we're analyzing it pretty correctly in that she wants
to do right by you. She wants you to be happy.
She thinks Rachel's making you happy, so she wants to
do that. Where there is that other part of her
that's like you just see it all in the stock
room and unless there's something standing in your way, right,
(30:04):
but in the but in the coffee that's at loft,
that's a signal to Laurel Rachel's not right for him,
m h. And that gives her concern and hope. She
is perfectly cast though. God, I think with her name
Lisa Anne Hadley, she is cast so well because she
is so pretty. She looks nothing like Lorelei. She's you
(30:29):
really do like her. You can't not like her. Yeah,
she's lovely, and so it's like, God, they really found
the perfect person to play that part. Yeah, because even that,
the dragonfly and all of it seems like, you know,
I think she's befriending Lorelei for for the right reasons,
(30:51):
as opposed to keep your enemies closer. Do you know
what I'm saying. I feel like she wants to be
friends with her, and she doesn't seem threatened by her.
It forces her to question a lot of what Luke
wants in his life and therefore what she wants in
her life. Does she want him more? Does she want
him left? But the thing, yeah, because she's so such
(31:13):
a different person, I found the exchanges between Rachel and
Laurela to be kind of awkward and forced, and I
didn't think that they melded well as people, you know.
And I also don't feel the chemistry between between Rachel
and Luke. I feel it well with Laurel. I thought
about that too. So when you when when Luke comes
(31:35):
up to the apartment to put them something the safe,
he says, Hi, you know, acute high, but they don't
like kiss there. There's not a ton of affection. I
don't have even seen them kiss. I'm trying to remember,
do you know what the problem is? Do you know
what Rachel can't compete with? And she's all that and
a bag of chips in terms of her positivity and
(31:56):
her glowing, clean, scrubbed uh nature, just a just a
beautiful soul through and through. Is that there's no darkness
in her right, there's no edge, there's no sarcasm. And
there's a ton of darkness and edge in Luke and
in Laurel. I but they are from completely different worlds,
(32:16):
so they seem I mean, is it especially in that
sense perfect note? I think that's you're right. When he
came into his apartment and what are you doing here.
I mean they just they fall into their rhythm like that,
like they're together, like they belong together. Almost. Yes, yes,
there are two puzzle pieces that totally fit. Whereas she,
(32:37):
Rachel is the shiny object that you say, like you
should like her, look at her right, But she's great.
But it's like, in reality, it's not about what's on paper.
Luke's tough, he's a tough guy, but laurel Ez is
really tough. She's as tough as she is he is.
(32:59):
It just seems like their connection is so deep now too.
I think when we come back, I do need to
talk to you about Luke's apartment though, because this was
really the first time getting to see that, and boy
did I analyze it differently watching it this time than
I did the last you know, four times I've seen
(33:20):
this episode. And then I couldn't help because we did
get a you know, we know that the sledgehammer scene
is coming, so it's just like, oh my god, that's
That's one of the things I most strongly identify with
Lucas as a person. It's just having a place that's convenient.
It doesn't matter if it's glitzy. It's got to be convenient,
(33:41):
and that is that's why he sleeps there. Anyway. You
want to take a simple Yeah, your looks a simple guy. Simple.
I do the same thing. To the horror of my wife,
I do the same thing. Like let's say we're looking
for another place in a vacation spot, right, and there's
the mansions that nobody can afford, and then there's sort
(34:01):
of the lesser mansions that's still nobody can afford now,
and then like, hey, look at this dump. It's it's
right by the lift. It's like she said, like, are
you f and kidding me? We're not going there? He
is Luke. That is as we know. It's interesting, but
it's right there. You roll out of bed, you slept
on this, you go. It hasn't been revealed to us
(34:24):
so much yet. But Luke has money. Yeah, Luke is
living there by choice, not because he has to. That's
all he can afford. No, I know, Yeah, No, he
doesn't want. He doesn't want the inconvenience and the bills
and the responsibility of a real house. It's a big
you know, it's a big nut to bite off. Man.
(34:44):
It's just it's it's it's really and it's constant. So
he's being smart, right, what the hell is he needs?
You know, his dad left him a perfect situation, a
business and a place to crash. Let's break down apartment.
Let's break down apartment when we come back, all right,
so we we We will be back in a new
segment on our show. It's gonna be apartment breakdown. We're
(35:06):
gonna into a little real estate discussion too. And uh,
that's a new angle for Gilmore girls. Let's talk about
real estate. We go from Luke to Emily Gilmour's mench
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We're gonna talk about Luke's apartment. What's the deal with
Luke's apartment. Let's let's let's let's let's go ahead. Is
there no bathroom door because I really could see the toilet.
There's a cathroom door. SI door open because the photos
were trying She's hanging on those photos the So what
(36:12):
is your So give me Scott's thoughts on Luke's apartment.
It's the perfect place. It's convenient, it's right there. He
wakes up, he goes downstairs, and nobody can really vandalize
his place because he's right upstairs and nobody knows that
they're not going to get away with anything. I mean,
that's that's his world. He's protecting his world. He's he's
(36:33):
right there. I relate to that so strongly. His apartment
is very Luke. It's not it's not gross, but it's
not fabulous. I had an apartment like that when I
got the show, and then I stayed in that apartment
for three years until my accountant was screaming at me, saying,
you got to buy a house, so you're gonna have
to write a huge check to the government. I said,
(36:54):
all right, now, it's starting to buy the apartment a studio.
Would we call it a studio that is a studio loft? Yes, No,
that's a that's a studio. Maybe it's a studio, well loft,
I mean it's above. Yeah, maybe it's a studio loft. Yeah,
good studio. Yeah. So it's got the kitchen, it's not
the bathroom. There's definitely the bed, which was interesting because
(37:14):
that was like, oh my god, that's where Luke sleeps.
And it had like the one pillow and then it
had that sort of chair pillow on it. You know
what I'm talking about. You know those pillows that are
like chair pillows, you know, they have arms. Then he's
got the cow. So it's not itty bitty, it's not
so small, it's not big. It's perfect. It's perfect for
(37:36):
one person or two people who like each other. Yeah,
it's not a roommate type of situation. It's like where
lovers can be there. And and who did the curtains?
Luke did the curtains? And did you do that as
a touch for Rachel? I think that is you know
what that is. That's a question for our audience to
(37:59):
eat nail us about because they probably know because they
know everything. So that's the question what's the deal with
the curtains people? And I also want to know how
they interpreted the coffee scene we were talking about, because
I think you're pretty much nailing it, but I want
to see if anybody else has different thoughts. So, okay,
(38:19):
Riley and Danielle, what do you think of the apartment?
It's screamed dude to me, but very very in in
a good way, not in a like a gross crusty way,
and like a guy definitely lives here, you know. I
definitely agree that it was very minimal, minimal and easy
like quick access. It was very dude, like, all right,
(38:42):
skis skis in boots right there at the front door.
R is just filled with with with crazy crap. Yeah,
but that's a home. That's a warm, loving home, filling
they like clutter. I mean, come on, Rory and Laura,
I like clutters. Yeah, but they're you know, they're that's
a loving home filled with memories and filled with memorabilia
(39:05):
of their memory. You know. It's it's it's a nice,
warm space. It really is. And it's not that's not
a big that's not a big plate. It's got a foyer,
it's got a living room, it's downstairs, a bedroom downstairs
and a kitchen downstairs and then a couple of betters. Yeah,
it's not it's not huge. It has that nice front
yard though. How epic Going backwards to this episode was
(39:27):
the Charlie's Angels plates though she's all, it's easy to
find a Kate Jackson. You know, it's hard. Antonia Roberts like,
I was just like and it's going over these young
people's heads. But for me, like Charlie's Angels is just everything.
It's such a relief to see Emily in her element
(39:48):
with her granddaughter and to just imagine what she really
wanted for Laurela and how she wanted to be with Laurela,
and you know, it gives it the sort of tragic
purport shan to it, but it's it's nice to see
Emily in a good mood. I love seeing her. She goes, oh,
I really after after leaving Mrs Kim she goes, oh,
I like that woman, and and oh I love this street.
(40:11):
Look at that. I mean, she's just everything's glowing for
her now, and in her tennis shoes and a tennis shoes.
What about when Emily gets upset when she sees the
shed and she goes running off and Rory's like, was
it the Terry ACKI did? She say? Remember they went
to like was it Terryoki Joe? And you can tell
(40:35):
was it Terry? She looks like at Clydesdale in those shoes.
The whole thing was so good and it was just
so much. And then you know, we should talk about
for a minute your thoughts on Emily creating the room
for Rory. I mean, we touched on it briefly, but like, well,
(40:55):
you know, I wish I had grandparents that did death
for me when I was growing up. That would have
been I mean, what a what a beautiful gesture. And
again and again I said it before. It's just all
of her stored up love and affection ah being thrown
upon Rory, and she's a beneficiary of it. She will
continue to be the beneficiary of it. Um. And it's
(41:19):
amazing how that can provoke Laurela. I mean, something so
good natured and so positive for her daughter puts her
in conflict with her with her own mother. I mean,
it's it's it's just such a such a circle. Um.
But I think I think it was a wonderful gesture.
I think it's a I really really like Emily. I
(41:42):
really like her. I know she's overbearing and I know
she made some mistakes with Laurela and laurel I had
no choice, I get it. But man, I really like her.
I really like her. She's a fighter. Man, she's she's
she's tough. And that's where Laurelai gets it. She gets
that steal from her mother, you know, that bone of iron,
and that's where Rory gets it. I mean, that's that's
(42:04):
that's handed down from from from from Emily. So it's
it's it's just wonderful to see. It's really, it's really
wonderful to see Emily also deflect all of the negativity
and jokes and stick and vaudeville quips coming in that
are from Laura way five three and there it is.
(42:25):
It's like it's like, man, I mean, it's just like
what she gets away, what she's tolerated to spend time
with her granddaughter, spending the money paying for the college,
getting her way. Um, good for her. I'm really, I'm
really I'm really rooting for her. I'd love having Emily
in Stars Hollow. And I know I said it, but
(42:47):
the scene with Emily and Mrs Kim is just so
great and it really, it really is. And you see
the genius of both of them. You're like, God, Mrs
Kim rocks to a couple of toughly good business one
and Emily is just having a good time with Rory.
It's really sweet. And and Emily and Michelle, I mean,
(43:07):
I know we talked about it, but they of course
those two would immediately love each other. But but but
she never you know, Emily never got to enjoy Laurel
I up to a certain point and then it was
done over. You know, by the time Laurel I was
fourteen fifteen years old, they were having massive conflict to
the point where she went out and well, yeah, we
(43:27):
and we learned that one tricks was here, that that
Emily cannot take anybody getting in the way of her
having this relationship with Rory. It's her whole life now. Yes,
imagine how good that makes her feel, your granddaughter, Oh
my god, and such a I mean and and I
(43:48):
mean talk about a person with such unlimited potential and Rory,
I mean, she must feel so proud and she's going
to contribute to her education. It's like it's like everything
I tried to do in my own family with my niece,
and you know, uh, and it's and it's you know,
it's a wonderful. She's just having the time for a life.
She's having these wonderful experiences before getting closer and close
(44:09):
joys spending more time with her. That's wonderful to say.
I think it's wonderful. Yeah, and I, uh, you know,
I know we have to wrap up and do some
pop culture, but I I know that what we saw
in this episode is just teeing up what happens next week.
It's like, buckle really, oh yeah, I'm gonna try not
(44:33):
to watch it. I peeked ahead and it was like, alright,
take it, take it easy, take don't get it, don't
give up the ghost. It's just getting better and better.
You know, let me ask you this before we before
we do pop culture. And I know that everyone talks
about how Amy and Dan weren't there for season seven
or whatever. You know, how year two three are never
(44:57):
as good as year one with Gil our girls. Would
you say it got better and better and better? I
don't know. I can't. I honestly can't answer that because
I haven't seen the episodes, and now, I mean, I'm
seeing these episodes for the first time, and they are
mind blowingly good, you know, And I don't mean it
(45:19):
sounds like a broken record, but it's it's it's really
it's time to wake up, time to wake I wake
up to that every morning at six thirty, by the way, okay, literally,
that alarm is telling us like it's like it's time six,
and then ten minutes later, right sixty, and then six
fifty and then sixty seven, and then I go get
(45:40):
my boy, right, I go into his bedroom, said, come on,
let's go, buddy. My wife's are like I think. I
was listening to Conan O'Brien's podcast and he's interview Michael Keaton,
who I like, have a huge love for Michael Keaton,
and Michael Keaton's alarm went off during it, but he
has that guitar strom much and you're just like, oh
(46:03):
my god, so good. Who doesn't love an alarm going
after it? Anyway, we obviously you know, I'm I'm enjoying
you watching it for the first time because it does
get even better. I can't imagine if how can you
even get better? Because it's just, oh my god, it's
(46:25):
just it's so intricate, it's so interwoven. It's just growing
and growing and growing. You'll see, oh my god, highly
addictive show highly I know it's so hard not to
let the Netflix just roll. That's what I want to do,
is say, after I get off this, I'm like clearing
the schedule. I'm gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just
(46:47):
cancel all my appointments. I'm watching Gilmore Girls. Emily's on
the one. You know, Emily is feeling good and I
want to feel good too. What do you mean? What
are you talking about? Come did dinner? I'm watching Gilmore Girls.
Let me now, I get it right. It's like I
want to have it on the background all the time.
I know that's the same thing with me. But yet
(47:09):
it's two in the morning and I'm like, I think
I can do one more. I think, really, I'm not
there yet, but I'm getting there late at night. I'm
getting there. Hey, everybody. I'm gonna be in New York
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everybody looking forward. All right, Riley, bring your a game,
(47:57):
because why don't you read the comments because they need
more from you. I will give a plus plus everything
I have in this I might take me to take
a nap after it's coming at you fire, all right, Riley,
And this is your pop culture. So first we have
(48:17):
the title itself, Emily in Wonderland. So we've talked about
Alice in Wonderland on this podcast before, but here are
a couple more fun facts. So Alice was a real
girl and was the daughter of author Carol's boss Henry
and Queen Victoria was a fan of Carol and even
suggested that he dedicate his next work to her. Lane
refers to Emily and Kim bargaining back and forth, and
(48:39):
Lane says it's like watching the Williams sisters you can't
think of women's tennis without naming sisters Venus and Serena Williams.
Serena and Venus are two of five girls in their family.
Will Smith is set to play Richard Williams, father to
tennis icons Venus and Serena Williams, in a new movie
called King. Richard and Serena married and started a family
(49:01):
along with Alexis o'hanion, the co founder of Reddit. Ski
Comparer's rude stay at Jackson's to the movie The Last Weekend,
The Last Weekend, which is about an alcoholics for day
drinking binge which seems to drag on forever. Laura Lai says,
I thought he was only here for a weekend, and
Souk he says the Last Weekend. So The Last Weekend
(49:22):
is a drama. Billy Wilder claimed the liquor industry offered
Paramount Pictures five million dollars to not only release the film,
but he also suggested that he would have accepted the
offer to him, he would have accepted the offer himself
personally and to prepare for the part. Ray milland spent
one night in Bellevue Hospital as a patient. He also
(49:45):
stopped eating regularly. As a as alcoholics forget to do so.
Laura Lai says, I don't know exactly what's going on
Rachel's head because I'm not a Vulcan. We have talked
about the Vulcans and their grip, but here a couple
more fun fact. Beginning in the original series, the character
Spock was able to mind meld by touching another being's
(50:06):
head and share thoughts. Vulcans have their own language in
the Star Trek universe, so English was dubbed over the
Vulcan translation and an interesting twist. Adam Nimoy directed season
one episode three, Kill Me Now of Gilmore Girls, and
his father Leonard played Spock in the original Star Trek
Little blend of two worlds there, Lorala makes this reference
(50:30):
as an Emily is becoming more casual, but which we've
talked about. Loria I says, I can't picture you at
teryaki shows or in jogging shoes. What's up? Working Girl?
Working Girl is in n American romantic comedy drama film
starring Melanie Griffith and Harrison Ford. No one expected it
to be the hit it was. Melanie Griffith has admitted
(50:50):
that she found her co star Alec Baldwin, who plays
her cheating ex boyfriend Mick, extremely attractive and even went
so far as to pursue romantic relationship with actor brothers.
Stephen Baldwin used to be famous for his acting and
now is known in pop culture as Hailey Bieber's father.
So true, so true, right, Laurel I says gold potting
(51:16):
shed that's where Roy and I lived when she was
a baby, and has memories and little rosebud wallpaper. I
don't want Boo Radley touching my rosebud wallpaper. She refers
to Ruin as Boo rad exactly. Boo Radley is a
character from Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird. Actor Robert
Duval play Boo Radley in the nineteen sixty two film interpretation.
(51:37):
Can I just Can I just interject here? That was
one of the more terrifying moments of my childhood when
my parents and I and my sisters were watching To
Kill a mocking Bird, and we'd watched it every year.
It was like it was a yearly ritual. But that
first time that, um, I guess in the courtroom, where
(51:59):
is that? The first time you see Robert Duval as
as Boo Radley just gave me nightmares. What a what
a great performance by by a great actor. Anyway, go ahead,
sorry to look so creepy. Actually he stayed out of
the sun for six weeks and dyed his hair blonde
for the role of Boo Radley. Um. So, Emily calls
Rory to ask big questions we later find out was
(52:21):
too for her room. Emily says, Sunflowers it is. Now,
what about music in sync or ninety degrees? Emily says,
what about that other group, the Backside Boys. She ended
up going with the ninety degrees, which was maybe that
was all they could clear It was clearance, so in sync,
ninety Degrees and actually Backstreet Boys. These three groups are
(52:44):
what you think of when thinking of boy bands. In
a crazy twist, A J. McClean, Lance Bass and Nicholas
She all presented at the VMAs this year, the boy
band throwback we all needed. Yeah, boy bands just don't
go away. They're like cockroaches. They keep coming back and
dancing better than ever. What a nice thing to say.
I love I'm a big boy band fan, but like,
(53:07):
they don't go away, Like those guys have all been
around for like thirty years. Was Nick Carter in one
of those boy bands. Yeah, he's a backside boy. So
so let me tell you. I was you know, I
get I do personal appearances, and I was requested for
a private birthday party for some a very lovely heiress
(53:30):
type person from another country. Yes, so they fly in
the whole deal. And uh, she just loves sauce so much.
And I thought I was the main gig. I thought
I was at I was a warm up act for
Nick Carter, and Nick Carter showed up and with my
(53:52):
producer on guitar by the way, Nick performed. Nick performed
as a set with a guitar and a sort of
little bit legit a couple of guitars and acoustic guitars
and I think a drum machine. And he was fantastic. Yeah,
those guys can sing. Oh, he can sing his ass off.
He can sing his backside boys off. Yeah, they're really
(54:13):
called the Backstreet Great Songs. And he was I mean
what a performer. Those guys can all sing. Oh, but
I mean but just just how he performed. And she
was enthralled, and she's like, you know, she'd look at
me and go, what are you doing here? No, those
(54:34):
guys are all. He was great everybody. Yeah, I was
cladding my hands along with everybody else. Man, I was like,
go Nick. She said, ninety degrees in sync Backstreet Boys
is still totally relevant today, Like literally, ninety degrees just
released an album. Backstreet Boys are still totally touring and releasing.
(54:58):
They just were nominated for Grammy a couple of years
ago and then in Sync. Everybody's just waiting for the reunion. Hm.
Justin's like, yeah, I don't need that. Oh he was
involved with Jimberlake. Is insane. Justin Bieber was involved with Timberlake,
timber he was involved with these these kids. He was insane. Okay,
(55:22):
all right, Well I thought he was in a group
with Brittany where. Didn't they have like the Brittany and
Justin O my god, Scott is putting a dagger through
my nineties, wouldn't Didn't they have like a Sonny and Share?
Didn't they have their own show like Sonny and Share?
Justin dated Brittany? Why did they always work Denim together?
Everybody was warning Denim. That's an iconic photo. But they
(55:43):
were dating. They weren't a band. They didn't have a
band together. That was an outfit they wore by choice. Idea.
I gotta read. I gotta do some reading. Clearly, I
gotta got brown up on my DOOTI history. Anyway, speaking
of great singers, Rory and Larla are walking down the
street and more. Lie is upset about wanting a real
(56:05):
connection with Emily, and Rory says, can I ask you
a question? Lorelie says, yes, I would date Steven Tyler? Okay,
I was. I was debating when, and I'd tell the
story about right now. But what did What did Rory say?
Rory says, can I ask you question whose answer wouldn't
horrify me? So here's what I will say about Steven Tyler.
(56:31):
Number one, He's the nicest, So I am not I'm
friendly with Steven Tyler because I also produced Ryan Seacrest show. Obviously,
Ryan and Stephen our friends. So we were all on
vacation and like Tahoe together, and I'm very close to
Steven's manager, So we were having a barbecue, so we're like, oh,
just come over. So they're gonna come by boat on
like Tahoe, and we're thinking, like a little I don't
(56:53):
know why. I just thought it was going to be
a boat like everyone else has on Mike Tahoe a
tiny little, tiny boat. We look out the window and
we're like, that's not a boat, Like that's a yacht.
Like what's going on? So we call them and we're like,
do you have a captain on that thing? Like we
can't park that thing anyway. Long story short, we get
(57:13):
them off the boat. Even in his like Tahoe casual,
Stephen is very recognizable. And I'm not making this up.
We were walking. He's just a regular dude. So we're
just walking to the market to get hot dogs and
hot dog buns. I'm not making this up. And straight on,
a guy, not even a kid, like a man on
a bike is biking on the path that we're walking
(57:35):
on and literally saw Steven Tyler and almost fell off
the bike. People are just like, what is happening? So, yeah,
that's miss Steven Tyler's story. He's very uh you know,
he's a man of the people. He likes to be
out there with the people. Totally. He's not a stuck
up diva guy here. Yeah, he just he just wanted
(57:59):
a hot but like he just couldn't have been happier.
But he he he cannot be inconspicuous, like that's the thing.
He just is immediately, doesn't matter if there's a hat
or glasses, nothing. He's one of the great front men
in rock history. He's not shy. He's not a shy guy. Yeah.
(58:20):
A couple of fun facts about Steven Tyler. He has
his own line of scarves called rock Scarf, and he
has sent an interview that he can live off of
a good compliment for two months. Alright, So our last
one coming in hot is Emily and Rory talking about
Charlie's Angels, which we've discussed a little bit, but the
(58:42):
actual quotes are and he says there are women in
bikinis on them talking about the plates, and Rory says,
the original Charlie's Angels, it took us years to complete
a set. Who's your favorite Angel? Your favorite Charlie's Angel
of the o G Original Charlie's Angels. Fair Faucet obviously
me too, Me too. I mean by a mile, by
(59:06):
a ba jillion miles. All great, They're all great, and
you know, wow wow wow. But Fara Fause, it was
agreed Smith is as lovely today as she was in
the seventies. But if I could ever get my hair
to look like Farra Faucet, I'd be such a happy
gala Fara Faucet. I didn't have her poster on my
(59:28):
bedroom wall, the red bathing suit. Didn't didn't know, but
I knew people that did. Nor did I. But I
still love her hair. She was an amazing fun fact
about that poster um The leading ladies were asked to
do a promotional poster for the show, but only Fawcett
agreed to do it, and the poster sold over twelve
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million copies long before the show's pilot episode even hit
the TV screen. Yeah did she get I guess she
got a piece of that huh oh yeahbably more red
bathing suits. Yeah, she's just iconic. I can't I'm gonna
have to start googling photos of her hair right after this.
The show aired from one and at the time of
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the show was known for having the largest wardrobe budget.
The show had about two dollars for wardrobe for each episode. Hm,
back then that was a lot of money. Well, I'm
kind of like your Gilmore Girls wardrobe budget. Oh wait, no,
you were like the same shirt in the same my
budget once once a year. No, No, actually a couple
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of times a year, I would go back to my
trailer and there would be twenty flannel shirts with a note, Scott,
please try these on. Let us know what you like.
That's it. That's that was because I wore my jeans. Now,
they had the jeans for me that I wore, but
I wore them home and then I wore That's all
they did, is I wore those all year. I had
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my my boots that they gave me in a warm home. Right.
I left the hat there, I left the flannel there.
It was easy. What a gig, seriously, you had made.
And it's like if I had to do it the
second time during the twenty more shirts would be like again,
you know, and the poor girls, it's like every day
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there's like twenty things I gotta go through and try on.
And did you have like two of each? Probably because
if you spill, probably, yeah, I think so, I don't know. Yeah,
they kept it. The budget was pretty tight on your
your wardrobe, so easy. I didn't cost him much, I'll
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tell you, because they weren't even like the fancy of flannels.
They were your basic old flannel. Okay, my favorite line.
I already did and I don't know why it tickled
me so much, but it's when Kirk's like and laurelized,
just like you got a cold Kirk. I just for
some reason, I don't know. It was a great scene.
(01:01:59):
You want to try? That was fun about it. I
was like, one of my favorite Kirk so far. That
was good, good for a laugh, good for Riley. My
favorite line is from Laura Laura Lie and she says,
I'm sorry I missed the checkered flag. When did the
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argument start? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. My favorite was already said
by Emily when she goes about the back backside boys.
So I'll give you another one. This one's from Laura
Lae and it's kind of in the beginning of the
episode as she goes, I don't know, maybe I got
lost in my big head after they were talking about
Laura Lee having a big head as a baby. Oh
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my god, Wait was this the episode where Luke says,
here's your breakfast without eyes? Yes, yes, that was the title.
That's the title we used for this podcast episode. God,
of course, it's such a good question. Didn't want to
she w with the eggs on top of a pancakes.
That was a great bit by the way that whole
scene was so good. Did you give your amy? Did
you give your favorite? Yeah, I'm still I am reconsidering
(01:03:06):
that it could be here's your breakfast, no eyes. But
I also like you got a cold Kirk, So this
one had a lot. You get to go twice. I
haven't even gone yet. What's what's going on here? It's
like it's like I'm getting robbed. I mean, it's like,
where's my opportunity? Just go ahead and step in? Go ahead,
jesus um, I don't know. I'm on the fence. I
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like I like the I like the Michelle line when
Run says it wasn't exactly a highlight of my life.
And then and then Michelle says, and I'm sure there's
so many from he slays me. That guy slays me. Man,
he could come on for one scene and just kill me.
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I love that guy. I love that character. Am I
right that we only have two episodes left of season one?
I can't even is that true? I think that's right.
I just can't shack while you wrap it up? That
is correct? Wow, ladies and gentlemen, what an episode? All right? Kids?
I think we uh, I think we talked this one
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out pretty good. Huh yeah, and we'll get some feedback
on those things you do. We need to get we
rode that hard and put it away. Well, we need
to get this horse in the barn, ladies and gentlemen.
And it went over. My alarm went off. I got
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bigger fish to fry, buddy, and from my mind, alarm
tells me bigger fish to fry. All right, all right, everybody,
thanks for downloaded, Thanks for listening, and you're the best
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Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, Scott Patterson
(00:23):
and this is the I Am All In Podcast with
I Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And I am
joined by my ball club here in my team, Amy Sugarman,
Danielle Romo, Riley Prius, Priests Price Priceless, Riley Priceless, Riley
(00:49):
Price Delicious. You know, I feel bad because after Milo
and Isaac, people are stuck back with us again. So
it's like we feel a little bad about what. I
don't feel bad. I think they. I think there are
four combined personalities make up two of theirs. I think
(01:10):
I think the math works out for us somewhat. People
shaking their heads all over the world because we read
the reviews and so when we read the reviews, we
know the truth. No, I you know what, I I
stopped reading them. Sometimes they're very painful because we're just
you're trying to love a love a show. It's it. Yeah,
(01:34):
the personal invective, I feel is unnecessary, but I think
it's character building. Yeah, it does make you stronger. Ry
you cry the first you know a hundred and then
you're like, oh, I don't have any tears left, character
character building experiences. They're taking me down a bunch of notches.
And I just was like, what, I'm reading your guys,
(01:57):
and I'm like, God, I hope that doesn't happened to me.
And then I'll read one that's happening to me. Now, Yeah,
they are, you know, they come after anybody doesn't. But
we love them. We love them all and we're trying
to do what they say. I will say that we
read the reviews and we go, okay, good note. We're
(02:18):
going to try that, we're taking We're good about that.
We we implement a lot of the ideas coming from
these very personal missives, shall we Communications well, Emily and Wonderland.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts because I have
a lot Emily and Wonderland. You know, it just it
(02:40):
just really hit me how desperate Emily is to have
a great relationship. She's got all this stored up love
and and and and wants to shower Rory with it
and all the love and excitement that she could not
shower on Lauraa because Laura I left and it was
(03:01):
just she's been waiting for so long and now she
has her chance. And you know, I was discussing this
with my wife. I said, you know, Emily is just
she was devastated when they walked into the shed. Uh.
And I mean that was a very very powerful moment
of the entire series so far. And m and made
(03:22):
Rory a room and called her and asked her what
she loved the most, what colors and what band and
you know what flowers your favorite? Made her this beautiful room,
and and you know, I guess Laurela I didn't really
have much of a problem with it a little bit.
I mean, she was a little taken aback, right, and
you can can't not expect that, right, Um but I
think I think Emily was justified. And from her point
(03:44):
of view, like did you really hate us that much? Yeah?
Where you know, you you denied yourself a relationship with
us to live in a shed with you know, was
with shovels, leaning up against the wall with your baby
daughter and feeding ducks. And I mean, like what, I
don't blame her, but um, so I was having this
(04:06):
conversation with my wife and she she explained that you know,
the mother daughter dynamic is fucking be far more overbearing
than you know, the obviously the grandmother granddaughter dynamic. So
there's a lot of pressure for I guess the young
Laurel I to become like Emily. I think Emily wanted
her be like her, and there was just this overbearing,
(04:30):
her overbearing nature to keep the family dynasty going and
to keep the traditions going. And it was you know,
everything is very at a at a a certain level,
very superficial, and appearances must be kept up. And and
this is just how it has to go. This is
how it Gilmore behaves, This is how it Gilmore speaks,
this is how it Gilmore. Uh you know, this is
(04:54):
how it Gilmore lives. And uh, Laurel I just was
not down for it. And the more pressure you put
on her, the more she's going to go away. Yeah.
And it's like, you know, it's you know the Paris
Hilton story, right, It's like it's like, well, if you
my I don't know about that. My wife informed me about.
(05:14):
She made a comparison. She did, she did, she made
a comparison. Yeah. I I felt like Emily was justified
in the way she felt. It's the way she expresses
it that comes across very harsh. And I think then
it really pushes Lorala away because if Emily would approach
it differently and say, it broke my heart to see
(05:35):
that when we would have been here for you, why
did that happen the way it did? And what was
interesting is Rory brings it up later when they're walking
after they left, and said, do you think the two
of you will ever really communicate about it? Noope? Yeah,
she said, no interesting, no way. And and you know
who would sit there and tolerate the And here's another
(05:58):
interesting thing that came up. And it's like, you know,
during the opening scene, the dinner scene, Hey, you know,
and I couldn't find two additional chairs. I'm to two
chairs short of a set. And laurealizes also, and I
realized that, you know, the only the only reason Emily
is taking this is to be with her granddaughter. She's
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tolerating all of that, all of those, all the sarcasm
and all the hatred and all the insults. Um, she's
just and Laurel I probably feels like she's just giving
it back to her mom when her mom gave her.
You make a great point, but it's not how anybody
in the real world would ever interact with their family.
(06:44):
It wouldn't happen all of every And this is why
I think I think Laurel is one of the more
interesting characters in the history of television because it's all
subtext that's being expressed. M this is all the stuff
that nobody ever said, but now she says, she's saying it. Yeah.
Rory and Richard don't communicate the way Emily and Laura
(07:06):
la I do. They come much from a more reserved
way and with more kindness. Laura and Emily just have
this stabby snarkiness when they go at it justified, but
it's me, but it's also Laura. La also extends this
to all other characters in the drama. I mean she's
(07:29):
sub textual. She verbalizes subtext with me. She does it
with Rachel, all those quippy little jokes with Rachel, she
does it with everyone, and especially with Luke. It's comes
from a place of more love and kindness. But even
the jokes when you come when she's in the apartment.
And then the scene which will will discuss all this.
But the scene in the stock room was really cool, right,
(07:52):
I do have great scene, great scene, but but so
but you know, for me, its like it makes me
feel like, you know, Amy is writing. The writing is
influenced by her father because it feels like stick you know,
not in a negative sense, but it feels like, Okay,
(08:13):
I'm gonna make a lead character obviously. You know. Laureli
is what Amy maybe wishes she was or a version
of herself. Um that it physically looks like this and
verbalizes all this sort of like kind of sticky comedian stuff.
(08:33):
Her dad was a I don't know if her dad
was a huge I don't know if her dad was
a huge comedian, but he was in that circle of
all those big comedians. So that's what she grew up.
But but I like it. I do too. I mean,
it's very funny and fast and fast and funny. I'm
a big fan of fast and funny. But it's interesting.
So that's why people like watching this shows because it's
(08:55):
all the because it's all the things that they want
to say that nobody in the real world would ever say,
and you miss things so when you're that's like you know,
Isaac even talked about it that he would just watch
it through and watch it through again. It's that kind
of show because you you no matter what you missed stuff,
so when you're watching again, it's like fresh content. So
(09:16):
you're just like, oh my god. And it's so dense
and so fast that there's no way the human brain
could like even retain it all. So you're just getting
fresh episodes each time you go around the loop of
the whole series. Very interesting device, very very interesting way
to approach you. Television really is very clever. If there's
so much ping pong thing between Luke and Lora La,
(09:40):
and it is so fast, and it is so there's
so many callbacks too, even with the curtains. You know
they're up in the apartment and there's the reference to
the curtains, and then of course we get the call back.
And that's why you're just like, oh my god, this
show is so clever and you love it because you're
just like, yep, the curtains, you know, like it's just
(10:01):
and I mean even when Rachel says, did you tell
me about the Hot Fashion show? Like, it was just
like and there's so much and it's so fast, it's
all but yeah, but it's all stick. It's like, oh yeah,
oh those those photographs of Luke and I are are you?
And lucre In the bathroom and Laura, I so don't
want to know why. You know, it's always something. It's
(10:22):
like bam, bam bam, which is why when you get
those scenes where the stick is gone, they're that much
more powerful because you're like, and that's why you just
get this lump in your boat and this hurt in
your chest because you're like, oh god, it's just not real.
Just got real, and it gets so real, and it's
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just very clever. It's just a very clever device, you know,
and it's and it's and it's constant. Must have been
fun to really must have been so much fun to
play that, you know, it must have been so much
fun for Lauren Graham to to just execute all of
those great lines. I mean, how much fun to sit
down and read those scripts and being the table read
and read all those scripts. And I remember those table reads.
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I mean, she was just like she was getting laughs
at the tabs like you would get on a high,
do you know what I mean? Like as you're going
through those scenes, and the adrenaline is kind of going
and it feels like such a rush because the way
the scenes are, it's just like a dance, you know,
And so I was gonna ask you, like, do you
remember I would almost think you are exhausted at the
end of the day because you're just going and going
(11:28):
and going. It's I mean, we're doing is as comedy,
but at the end of the day, it's aggressive hostility
toward herself, toward other characters, toward her mother, towards me,
to where I mean, it's all deflecting, and it's it's denial,
it's you know, it's all that stuff. So it's so
it's a little bit draining on your energy. Um, but
(11:51):
to play it, it's fun and to be the straight
man to all those great lines is fun because it's
all about timing, you know. It's like it's it's it's
all that can time, and she does it so beautifully.
I can't wait to get her on the show. Can
you make a comparison between your work on this show
and your work on say the Event, Oh God night
(12:12):
and so different? What is that? Can you give me
a little like you're sort of what it feels like?
Was this more fun? Well? Yeah, okay, So the next
series I did after Gilmore was called Aliens in America,
and that was really great comedy writing as well. It
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was just a different kind you know. It was like
half hour sitcom writing in in a in a single
camera format, you know what I mean. So it felt
a little more real. But it had those and it
was it was an all star team of comedy writers
because nobody was doing half hour anymore. And so we
had these all these uh Emmy winning showrunners on the
staff and we were just on the writing staff, and
(12:56):
the and the and the three show runners were like these,
you know, these giants of comedy business. So was that
more comparable to your experience on Gilmore Girls? A little bit? Not?
The time, there was some timing differences. It wasn't so
like one character just dominating the entire thing, like you
know the way the way laurelized characters sort of like
(13:16):
you know, goes through every single character like that, like
a like a comedic buzz saw. Um, and we're sort
of following her narrative and we you know, we'll follow
Rory too, but it always comes back to her and
her and Rory and her mom and her her mom
and her and Luke and you know, um, so she's
she's the core of the show. But um, but then
(13:37):
when I got to the event in two thousand and ten.
It was like, this is a drama. There's nothing funny
about this. Um. You know, they had some issues with
the writing because they changed. The original show runner got
swapped out for somebody who, in my opinion, had no
feel for this type of material. And it was odd.
It was very difficult to do. It was really it
(14:00):
was not your same experience. You had a very very
difficult to do because it was it was kind of confusing.
It was a show that was kind of all over
the place in terms of I loved the show, but
I was sort of like we just happened, like you
thought this is going to be, so it was sort
of ahead of its time where you're like, oh, this
is so but it was sort of being but it
was being retooled in real in the moment, so you
(14:24):
can't really do that and pull up but anyway, but
Gilmore was definitely those shows like do you feel like
Gilmore was so much more of a family for you
as opposed to these other shows. I was thinking about
that today when I I because I watched the episode
again right before we came on the air, and this is,
you know, the scene in the diner scenes with Rachel
and Lorela, and I just thought I missed that set.
You know, I miss that job. I really miss having
(14:47):
that job because it was a family feeling, you know,
and it was like that was our you know, the
back lot of Warner Brothers was our real estate. That
was ours. The entire back lot of Warner Brothers was
stars Hollow and we were there for seven years, and
I just got it was great. That was great to
be on that and I think we felt it as
(15:08):
every guest has come on. But really with Milo, it
was like, wow, you really got the the closeness between
the two of you. And then I think what I
experienced with Isaac was he was very He expressed so
well his love for the show better than any of
(15:28):
us are ever able to communicate it. And then I
was like, wow, like it is so heartwarming. It just
is like the what this show did for you all,
but also for the audience. It just people just love
it so much. And I think maybe we're getting nostalgic
already because we're coming, you know, we're getting closer to
the end of season one in our recaps, and so
(15:50):
I am starting to think, like, wow, this show really
means a lot to people. Oh without question, and it
should because it's all sort of shared experiences. I mean,
everybody could relate to these because everybody can sort of
pick and choose what experiences they've had, and they've they're
highlighted in the show. Um, these are all universal themes, right.
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So in the stock room, I think what stood out
to me is and I am like a terrible actor,
so I would never be able to do this. It's
the glance. So you two are talking and she sort
of says, I mean unless there's something, you know, like
standing in your way, and you're like, no, you know,
there's nothing standing my way. But the expressions on both
your faces is like we love each other. Right, It's
(16:34):
like a couple of riverboat gamblers holding holding great hands
and nobody's gonna and it was just like just bluffing
each other. Wow. And I think Lauren, when I watch
laurealized expressions, she's so talented because not only does she
deliver like the funny lines so perfectly, but she delivers
(16:55):
a facial expression just a tiny little thing and you
you so get it. And that's what I thought in
the stock room was like, and obviously that was the intention,
but boy did it work, because you're like, Wow, why
do you to not just tell each other? She had
you know, she has that job of appearing vulnerable but
(17:15):
still guarded and still doesn't want to let in let
on to me what her intentions really are, but it's
kind of obvious to an audience watching. Yeah, and she's
you know, I do like her relationship with Rachel. They
do seem like, you know, I don't think I don't
think Laura is like a backstabber. She's not going to
tell Rachel these things and support Rachel and tell you
(17:36):
to date Rachel and then suddenly like kiss you in
the stock room, do you know what I mean? Like
that is not her move. She's not that. She's very genuine,
so she really you believe that she does want you
to be happy. And then in the movie theater scene
when Rory and Lorela are seeing you guys, and he
looks happy, doesn't he? But there's just that little part
that's like, he looks happy. I'm so happy for him,
(17:57):
except my heart is breaking a little bit. And isn't
an interesting how they keep those worlds separated. The Gilmore
world is one world. Luke's the stars Hollow world is
another world. And Luke's world isn't is a completely separate
universe and they and rarely do they they cross the
streams and when they do it can be very explosive.
(18:18):
But but yeah, you know the dynamic between I mean,
Rory is the sweetest person. God, she a smart sweet
just the way she is with her grandma and taking
her around the town and getting her the sneakers, and
I mean, there was so much in this episode. The
(18:38):
scene between Mrs Kim and Emily is so genius with
the two of them negotiating over the furniture, and Lane
and Rory are watching and like, I wish we had
some popcorn, you know, like and that's just one little
scene in this episode and that wasn't even like really
a major thing, and you just you're like, god, this
there's so much happening. And Kirk was amazing in this episode.
(19:00):
And you and Rachel, and the triangle between you, Rachel
and Lorela is a whole thing in itself, because you
are uncomfortable with their friendship. You don't want to say it,
and why are they becoming friends? And then the three
of you, I mean, it's just oh so much. Yeah,
one of the funnier moments for me. Well, I'll just
(19:21):
tell you right now, the best moment, the two best
moments in that whole the whole show. We're unique and Ruin.
I mean that unique Ruin scene just had me in tears.
I mean, what do you have so many to choose from?
I can't wait till Riley tries to re enact that
scene and no, no, we should do that. Riley, are
(19:44):
you ready for a French accent? You gotta, you gotta
give it a shot. And who's gonna be ruined? I'm
not going to be ruined, Amy, you gotta. I can't
even be rude. It was so funny because when we
were preparing for this episode, we were talking about you know,
who's who's is on the episode, and Daniel's like, you know,
run comes back on this episode. And I literally said
to Daniel, I think we've all had enough and it's
(20:05):
just a little did we know that we did not
have enough of him? Because here he was. Megan is
laughing again, Oh my god. I mean Trusdale, what a
great scene that and his scene with Emily. Riley, try
and do a little Michelle. What was the line against
I'm sorry you must be in the wrong place. Perhaps
(20:26):
you should be in the Y M c A or
a bus depot. I feel like you need eyebrows when
you do. I'm sorry, You're on the wrong place. You
must be looking for the Russians. Do try again, try again,
Deep in the throat, deep in the throat. M you
(20:51):
must be you must be in the wrong always comes
out Russian. No one thinks this is funny, but us,
we think it's so funny that we're just gonna keep
doing it because everyone's like, yeah, that part's not funny,
and we're like, it's so hilarious it is. I love Michelle,
Oh god, what I care? How about the met how
(21:11):
about the meaning? Really quick? We just need to play
one little clip really quick. Don't bring on our curt Easton.
Can you do one more? Just one more? Do the
scott one? Do you know? Maybe? Time good? So funny.
(21:35):
And then in the in the theater with Laureli, she
says to Kirk, no, no, you got you. You need
a little seed to fin on middle pan. You don't
want to be a driving a tractor with that and
get drowsy. She did it with a little Southern accents.
I love, And she's like, you got a cold. So good,
(21:58):
so good, the whole thing. Okay, I know we need
to take a break. When we come back. I want
to hear what you think of Luke and Rachel. Okay,
all right, when we come back after these messages where
you're gonna get my thoughts on Luke and Rachel and
you might be a little bit surprised anyway, we'll be
back after that. Yeah, alright, so we're back everybody. Uh,
(22:25):
Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I heart radio.
I want to live productions. We're going to discuss what
do we want to discuss? What I think of Luke
and Rachel. I want to talk about Luke and Rachel.
Amy you want you want to get into that. Pardon me,
we're having a small problem. You can talk to us.
(22:45):
We're here for you. I need to know about Luke
and Rachel because I you tell me, you tell me.
I just want to listen to your thoughts. I just
he seems happy, you know, It's just you know, look,
when you have a character like Rachel with a history
(23:07):
of abandoning and running scared repeatedly, then that's what's going
to happen. You know, That's what they're training the audience
to expect it and to get ready for it, because
no matter how good it gets, it's coming again. Um.
And that's basically how I feel about it. And he's,
(23:28):
you know, he's he's being very guarded because he Oh
my god, I mean, how can he Here's the thing
that confuses me and I played it is he in
love with Rachel or is he in love with Laurel I?
And I think I think that he is trying. I
think there are residual feelings for Rachel that he can't avoid,
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but they aren't as deep as his feelings for Laurel I.
And he's there's he has no choice, but life thrown
him this, you know, this sort of situation, and he's
doing the best he can with it because you know,
he's not a he's not a jerk. He's not going
to be mean to Rachel, right, So he's kind of
hanging in there as a as much of a friend
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and and a lover and a boyfriend as he can
because it's almost like an obligation. It's the right thing
to do, but so accurate. I think you're I think
that is exactly what how it landed to me, And
that when Rachel was on the scene. There was no
laure Lae yet we know that we know the timeline
is a little fishy and maybe they had briefly met whatever.
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So so Rachel leaves him and he was heartbroken about it,
and we know that we know the town has made
it clear to us that you were heartbroken. So when
you're heartbroken, all you want is if she would just
come back to me, if she would just come back
to me, if she would just come back to me. Well,
interestingly enough, she did, so he's like, ah, this is
what I wanted. But little did you know during that
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time you fell in love with somebody else, way more,
way deeper. But it's still like it's not a thing yet.
So it's like, I think he's happy with Rachel, and
it seems very comfortable and very real and authentic and
genuine and they really do love each other. Ye And
she's not his soul mate anymore, and she knows it,
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which is why you're not even that stressing about when
she's gonna leave. You're just gonna like she's gonna go.
That is that is not a man in love. You
can tell at the movie theaters too, about like they
kind of had a little p d A. But then
he would turn back and look at Laura La, and
then Laura I would look at him, and you know,
you can tell exactly what you just said just in
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that scene a lot, And like we talked about, you're
not gonna like kiss her in the stock room, She's
not going to kiss you in the stock room. There's
none of that. It's not like it's going to be scandalous.
It's just like, I guess, just like you've been waiting
for Lorelei through Max and Lord knows who else is coming,
she's got to do the same for you, and it's
just these two are going to be waiting. I think
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Laura La allows Luke to be who he really is
and and Laura La accepts him for what he is
and he gets frustrated and a little angry and a
little curmudgeonly, and she delights in that. She likes that,
and he's a different person with Rachel and I just
feel like I don't think he's putting on an act
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with Rachel. I just think he's kind of out of
his comfort zone with her. Now I have a question.
There was something that I didn't totally get in this episode,
and it was like, I wanted to get it. I
knew it was important, and I was like, why am
I not understanding this? The very last scene, Laura Lee
and roriore drinking the coffee and they both say, does
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this taste different to you? Can you explain to me
what that was? What that meant? What was that that?
She's Rachel's not being a good influence on Luke. He's
off center. He's he's not as sure of himself. He
you know, his world, whatever his world was before Rachel
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or getting over Rachel and kind of you know, flirting
around with Laurela and almost popping the you know you
want to go out questions on several several times. Um
is That's who he is. That's he's solidly feed on
the ground. That's him. And he loves her and he's
pining for her. He's not thinking about Rachel. I mean,
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you might think about her in passing, but I don't.
I think his mind is occupied with scenarios of his
future with Laurel I I do. And he really, truly, truly,
deeply loves her to the point where he's stand office
somewhat and really having to build up the courage and
take the chance that she'll say no, because that takes
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a lot of guts. I mean, the more you like
a girl, the more of a coward you become in
certain situations because you don't want to hear that no.
And I think he's in that place with with with
with Laurela obviously, but with Rachel, it's like he's not himself.
He's not being himself. It's not a version of him
that everyone's going to work out with her. And I
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think maybe he's realizing it. He had to be a
certain way to please her. That's not him. Maybe that's
part of the reason that she left, because it's not right.
She left because it just she didn't feel right in
the dynamic. He didn't feel right in that dyn ount.
There was something you know, there were a couple of
false notes being hit there. So you know, why, if
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if it was so great, why is she running off?
I mean, and plus you know she wanted to travel
and the whole thing, and he never wants to town.
But but but yeah, the coffee indicates that the coffee
that tastes different indicates that something something. Obviously, something's a
little off here. Yes, something's a little off, And that
gives Lauren Hope and and concerned for her friend who
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she loves, because is she doing the right thing by
carrying out Rachel's requests to sort of close the deal
for her? And it's kind of a strange dynamics. She
finds herself very weird. Now she realizes that she probably
shouldn't be doing that because the coffee is off. Luke's
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not himself. I love him. He's my friend and he
maybe he's going to be my boyfriend, and may I
wish he was? And I wish you'd get to, you know,
grow up here and finally, you know, like get over
here and let's let's start this thing. Yeah, I don't Actually,
I don't think we're overthinking this. I think that everything
you're saying is at play. There is more going on
here than everyone's using in their words. I I I could,
(29:43):
I think to myself and I we're thinking this. Am
I reading too much into it? It's like, no, I
think we're analyzing it pretty correctly in that she wants
to do right by you. She wants you to be happy.
She thinks Rachel's making you happy, so she wants to
do that. Where there is that other part of her
that's like you just see it all in the stock
room and unless there's something standing in your way, right,
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but in the but in the coffee that's at loft,
that's a signal to Laurel Rachel's not right for him,
m h. And that gives her concern and hope. She
is perfectly cast though. God, I think with her name
Lisa Anne Hadley, she is cast so well because she
is so pretty. She looks nothing like Lorelei. She's you
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really do like her. You can't not like her. Yeah,
she's lovely, and so it's like, God, they really found
the perfect person to play that part. Yeah, because even that,
the dragonfly and all of it seems like, you know,
I think she's befriending Lorelei for for the right reasons,
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as opposed to keep your enemies closer. Do you know
what I'm saying. I feel like she wants to be
friends with her, and she doesn't seem threatened by her.
It forces her to question a lot of what Luke
wants in his life and therefore what she wants in
her life. Does she want him more? Does she want
him left? But the thing, yeah, because she's so such
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a different person, I found the exchanges between Rachel and
Laurela to be kind of awkward and forced, and I
didn't think that they melded well as people, you know.
And I also don't feel the chemistry between between Rachel
and Luke. I feel it well with Laurel. I thought
about that too. So when you when when Luke comes
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up to the apartment to put them something the safe,
he says, Hi, you know, acute high, but they don't
like kiss there. There's not a ton of affection. I
don't have even seen them kiss. I'm trying to remember,
do you know what the problem is? Do you know
what Rachel can't compete with? And she's all that and
a bag of chips in terms of her positivity and
(31:56):
her glowing, clean, scrubbed uh nature, just a just a
beautiful soul through and through. Is that there's no darkness
in her right, there's no edge, there's no sarcasm. And
there's a ton of darkness and edge in Luke and
in Laurel. I but they are from completely different worlds,
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so they seem I mean, is it especially in that
sense perfect note? I think that's you're right. When he
came into his apartment and what are you doing here.
I mean they just they fall into their rhythm like that,
like they're together, like they belong together. Almost. Yes, yes,
there are two puzzle pieces that totally fit. Whereas she,
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Rachel is the shiny object that you say, like you
should like her, look at her right, But she's great.
But it's like, in reality, it's not about what's on paper.
Luke's tough, he's a tough guy, but laurel Ez is
really tough. She's as tough as she is he is.
(32:59):
It just seems like their connection is so deep now too.
I think when we come back, I do need to
talk to you about Luke's apartment though, because this was
really the first time getting to see that, and boy
did I analyze it differently watching it this time than
I did the last you know, four times I've seen
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this episode. And then I couldn't help because we did
get a you know, we know that the sledgehammer scene
is coming, so it's just like, oh my god, that's
That's one of the things I most strongly identify with
Lucas as a person. It's just having a place that's convenient.
It doesn't matter if it's glitzy. It's got to be convenient,
(33:41):
and that is that's why he sleeps there. Anyway. You
want to take a simple Yeah, your looks a simple guy. Simple.
I do the same thing. To the horror of my wife,
I do the same thing. Like let's say we're looking
for another place in a vacation spot, right, and there's
the mansions that nobody can afford, and then there's sort
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of the lesser mansions that's still nobody can afford now,
and then like, hey, look at this dump. It's it's
right by the lift. It's like she said, like, are
you f and kidding me? We're not going there? He
is Luke. That is as we know. It's interesting, but
it's right there. You roll out of bed, you slept
on this, you go. It hasn't been revealed to us
(34:24):
so much yet. But Luke has money. Yeah, Luke is
living there by choice, not because he has to. That's
all he can afford. No, I know, Yeah, No, he
doesn't want. He doesn't want the inconvenience and the bills
and the responsibility of a real house. It's a big
you know, it's a big nut to bite off. Man.
(34:44):
It's just it's it's it's really and it's constant. So
he's being smart, right, what the hell is he needs?
You know, his dad left him a perfect situation, a
business and a place to crash. Let's break down apartment.
Let's break down apartment when we come back, all right,
so we we We will be back in a new
segment on our show. It's gonna be apartment breakdown. We're
(35:06):
gonna into a little real estate discussion too. And uh,
that's a new angle for Gilmore girls. Let's talk about
real estate. We go from Luke to Emily Gilmour's mench
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We're gonna talk about Luke's apartment. What's the deal with
Luke's apartment. Let's let's let's let's let's go ahead. Is
there no bathroom door because I really could see the toilet.
There's a cathroom door. SI door open because the photos
were trying She's hanging on those photos the So what
(36:12):
is your So give me Scott's thoughts on Luke's apartment.
It's the perfect place. It's convenient, it's right there. He
wakes up, he goes downstairs, and nobody can really vandalize
his place because he's right upstairs and nobody knows that
they're not going to get away with anything. I mean,
that's that's his world. He's protecting his world. He's he's
(36:33):
right there. I relate to that so strongly. His apartment
is very Luke. It's not it's not gross, but it's
not fabulous. I had an apartment like that when I
got the show, and then I stayed in that apartment
for three years until my accountant was screaming at me, saying,
you got to buy a house, so you're gonna have
to write a huge check to the government. I said,
(36:54):
all right, now, it's starting to buy the apartment a studio.
Would we call it a studio that is a studio loft? Yes, No,
that's a that's a studio. Maybe it's a studio, well loft,
I mean it's above. Yeah, maybe it's a studio loft. Yeah,
good studio. Yeah. So it's got the kitchen, it's not
the bathroom. There's definitely the bed, which was interesting because
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that was like, oh my god, that's where Luke sleeps.
And it had like the one pillow and then it
had that sort of chair pillow on it. You know
what I'm talking about. You know those pillows that are
like chair pillows, you know, they have arms. Then he's
got the cow. So it's not itty bitty, it's not
so small, it's not big. It's perfect. It's perfect for
(37:36):
one person or two people who like each other. Yeah,
it's not a roommate type of situation. It's like where
lovers can be there. And and who did the curtains?
Luke did the curtains? And did you do that as
a touch for Rachel? I think that is you know
what that is. That's a question for our audience to
(37:59):
eat nail us about because they probably know because they
know everything. So that's the question what's the deal with
the curtains people? And I also want to know how
they interpreted the coffee scene we were talking about, because
I think you're pretty much nailing it, but I want
to see if anybody else has different thoughts. So, okay,
(38:19):
Riley and Danielle, what do you think of the apartment?
It's screamed dude to me, but very very in in
a good way, not in a like a gross crusty way,
and like a guy definitely lives here, you know. I
definitely agree that it was very minimal, minimal and easy
like quick access. It was very dude, like, all right,
(38:42):
skis skis in boots right there at the front door.
R is just filled with with with crazy crap. Yeah,
but that's a home. That's a warm, loving home, filling
they like clutter. I mean, come on, Rory and Laura,
I like clutters. Yeah, but they're you know, they're that's
a loving home filled with memories and filled with memorabilia
(39:05):
of their memory. You know. It's it's it's a nice,
warm space. It really is. And it's not that's not
a big that's not a big plate. It's got a foyer,
it's got a living room, it's downstairs, a bedroom downstairs
and a kitchen downstairs and then a couple of betters. Yeah,
it's not it's not huge. It has that nice front
yard though. How epic Going backwards to this episode was
(39:27):
the Charlie's Angels plates though she's all, it's easy to
find a Kate Jackson. You know, it's hard. Antonia Roberts like,
I was just like and it's going over these young
people's heads. But for me, like Charlie's Angels is just everything.
It's such a relief to see Emily in her element
(39:48):
with her granddaughter and to just imagine what she really
wanted for Laurela and how she wanted to be with Laurela,
and you know, it gives it the sort of tragic
purport shan to it, but it's it's nice to see
Emily in a good mood. I love seeing her. She goes, oh,
I really after after leaving Mrs Kim she goes, oh,
I like that woman, and and oh I love this street.
(40:11):
Look at that. I mean, she's just everything's glowing for
her now, and in her tennis shoes and a tennis shoes.
What about when Emily gets upset when she sees the
shed and she goes running off and Rory's like, was
it the Terry ACKI did? She say? Remember they went
to like was it Terryoki Joe? And you can tell
(40:35):
was it Terry? She looks like at Clydesdale in those shoes.
The whole thing was so good and it was just
so much. And then you know, we should talk about
for a minute your thoughts on Emily creating the room
for Rory. I mean, we touched on it briefly, but like, well,
(40:55):
you know, I wish I had grandparents that did death
for me when I was growing up. That would have
been I mean, what a what a beautiful gesture. And
again and again I said it before. It's just all
of her stored up love and affection ah being thrown
upon Rory, and she's a beneficiary of it. She will
continue to be the beneficiary of it. Um. And it's
(41:19):
amazing how that can provoke Laurela. I mean, something so
good natured and so positive for her daughter puts her
in conflict with her with her own mother. I mean,
it's it's it's just such a such a circle. Um.
But I think I think it was a wonderful gesture.
I think it's a I really really like Emily. I
(41:42):
really like her. I know she's overbearing and I know
she made some mistakes with Laurela and laurel I had
no choice, I get it. But man, I really like her.
I really like her. She's a fighter. Man, she's she's
she's tough. And that's where Laurelai gets it. She gets
that steal from her mother, you know, that bone of iron,
and that's where Rory gets it. I mean, that's that's
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that's handed down from from from from Emily. So it's
it's it's just wonderful to see. It's really, it's really
wonderful to see Emily also deflect all of the negativity
and jokes and stick and vaudeville quips coming in that
are from Laura way five three and there it is.
(42:25):
It's like it's like, man, I mean, it's just like
what she gets away, what she's tolerated to spend time
with her granddaughter, spending the money paying for the college,
getting her way. Um, good for her. I'm really, I'm
really I'm really rooting for her. I'd love having Emily
in Stars Hollow. And I know I said it, but
(42:47):
the scene with Emily and Mrs Kim is just so
great and it really, it really is. And you see
the genius of both of them. You're like, God, Mrs
Kim rocks to a couple of toughly good business one
and Emily is just having a good time with Rory.
It's really sweet. And and Emily and Michelle, I mean,
(43:07):
I know we talked about it, but they of course
those two would immediately love each other. But but but
she never you know, Emily never got to enjoy Laurel
I up to a certain point and then it was
done over. You know, by the time Laurel I was
fourteen fifteen years old, they were having massive conflict to
the point where she went out and well, yeah, we
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and we learned that one tricks was here, that that
Emily cannot take anybody getting in the way of her
having this relationship with Rory. It's her whole life now. Yes,
imagine how good that makes her feel, your granddaughter, Oh
my god, and such a I mean and and I
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mean talk about a person with such unlimited potential and Rory,
I mean, she must feel so proud and she's going
to contribute to her education. It's like it's like everything
I tried to do in my own family with my niece,
and you know, uh, and it's and it's you know,
it's a wonderful. She's just having the time for a life.
She's having these wonderful experiences before getting closer and close
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joys spending more time with her. That's wonderful to say.
I think it's wonderful. Yeah, and I, uh, you know,
I know we have to wrap up and do some
pop culture, but I I know that what we saw
in this episode is just teeing up what happens next week.
It's like, buckle really, oh yeah, I'm gonna try not
(44:33):
to watch it. I peeked ahead and it was like, alright,
take it, take it easy, take don't get it, don't
give up the ghost. It's just getting better and better.
You know, let me ask you this before we before
we do pop culture. And I know that everyone talks
about how Amy and Dan weren't there for season seven
or whatever. You know, how year two three are never
(44:57):
as good as year one with Gil our girls. Would
you say it got better and better and better? I
don't know. I can't. I honestly can't answer that because
I haven't seen the episodes, and now, I mean, I'm
seeing these episodes for the first time, and they are
mind blowingly good, you know, And I don't mean it
(45:19):
sounds like a broken record, but it's it's it's really
it's time to wake up, time to wake I wake
up to that every morning at six thirty, by the way, okay, literally,
that alarm is telling us like it's like it's time six,
and then ten minutes later, right sixty, and then six
fifty and then sixty seven, and then I go get
(45:40):
my boy, right, I go into his bedroom, said, come on,
let's go, buddy. My wife's are like I think. I
was listening to Conan O'Brien's podcast and he's interview Michael Keaton,
who I like, have a huge love for Michael Keaton,
and Michael Keaton's alarm went off during it, but he
has that guitar strom much and you're just like, oh
(46:03):
my god, so good. Who doesn't love an alarm going
after it? Anyway, we obviously you know, I'm I'm enjoying
you watching it for the first time because it does
get even better. I can't imagine if how can you
even get better? Because it's just, oh my god, it's
(46:25):
just it's so intricate, it's so interwoven. It's just growing
and growing and growing. You'll see, oh my god, highly
addictive show highly I know it's so hard not to
let the Netflix just roll. That's what I want to do,
is say, after I get off this, I'm like clearing
the schedule. I'm gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just
(46:47):
cancel all my appointments. I'm watching Gilmore Girls. Emily's on
the one. You know, Emily is feeling good and I
want to feel good too. What do you mean? What
are you talking about? Come did dinner? I'm watching Gilmore Girls.
Let me now, I get it right. It's like I
want to have it on the background all the time.
I know that's the same thing with me. But yet
(47:09):
it's two in the morning and I'm like, I think
I can do one more. I think, really, I'm not
there yet, but I'm getting there late at night. I'm
getting there. Hey, everybody. I'm gonna be in New York
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the link and get tickets as well. Hope to see
everybody looking forward. All right, Riley, bring your a game,
(47:57):
because why don't you read the comments because they need
more from you. I will give a plus plus everything
I have in this I might take me to take
a nap after it's coming at you fire, all right, Riley,
And this is your pop culture. So first we have
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the title itself, Emily in Wonderland. So we've talked about
Alice in Wonderland on this podcast before, but here are
a couple more fun facts. So Alice was a real
girl and was the daughter of author Carol's boss Henry
and Queen Victoria was a fan of Carol and even
suggested that he dedicate his next work to her. Lane
refers to Emily and Kim bargaining back and forth, and
(48:39):
Lane says it's like watching the Williams sisters you can't
think of women's tennis without naming sisters Venus and Serena Williams.
Serena and Venus are two of five girls in their family.
Will Smith is set to play Richard Williams, father to
tennis icons Venus and Serena Williams, in a new movie
called King. Richard and Serena married and started a family
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along with Alexis o'hanion, the co founder of Reddit. Ski
Comparer's rude stay at Jackson's to the movie The Last Weekend,
The Last Weekend, which is about an alcoholics for day
drinking binge which seems to drag on forever. Laura Lai says,
I thought he was only here for a weekend, and
Souk he says the Last Weekend. So The Last Weekend
(49:22):
is a drama. Billy Wilder claimed the liquor industry offered
Paramount Pictures five million dollars to not only release the film,
but he also suggested that he would have accepted the
offer to him, he would have accepted the offer himself
personally and to prepare for the part. Ray milland spent
one night in Bellevue Hospital as a patient. He also
(49:45):
stopped eating regularly. As a as alcoholics forget to do so.
Laura Lai says, I don't know exactly what's going on
Rachel's head because I'm not a Vulcan. We have talked
about the Vulcans and their grip, but here a couple
more fun fact. Beginning in the original series, the character
Spock was able to mind meld by touching another being's
(50:06):
head and share thoughts. Vulcans have their own language in
the Star Trek universe, so English was dubbed over the
Vulcan translation and an interesting twist. Adam Nimoy directed season
one episode three, Kill Me Now of Gilmore Girls, and
his father Leonard played Spock in the original Star Trek
Little blend of two worlds there, Lorala makes this reference
(50:30):
as an Emily is becoming more casual, but which we've
talked about. Loria I says, I can't picture you at
teryaki shows or in jogging shoes. What's up? Working Girl?
Working Girl is in n American romantic comedy drama film
starring Melanie Griffith and Harrison Ford. No one expected it
to be the hit it was. Melanie Griffith has admitted
(50:50):
that she found her co star Alec Baldwin, who plays
her cheating ex boyfriend Mick, extremely attractive and even went
so far as to pursue romantic relationship with actor brothers.
Stephen Baldwin used to be famous for his acting and
now is known in pop culture as Hailey Bieber's father.
So true, so true, right, Laurel I says gold potting
(51:16):
shed that's where Roy and I lived when she was
a baby, and has memories and little rosebud wallpaper. I
don't want Boo Radley touching my rosebud wallpaper. She refers
to Ruin as Boo rad exactly. Boo Radley is a
character from Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird. Actor Robert
Duval play Boo Radley in the nineteen sixty two film interpretation.
(51:37):
Can I just Can I just interject here? That was
one of the more terrifying moments of my childhood when
my parents and I and my sisters were watching To
Kill a mocking Bird, and we'd watched it every year.
It was like it was a yearly ritual. But that
first time that, um, I guess in the courtroom, where
(51:59):
is that? The first time you see Robert Duval as
as Boo Radley just gave me nightmares. What a what
a great performance by by a great actor. Anyway, go ahead,
sorry to look so creepy. Actually he stayed out of
the sun for six weeks and dyed his hair blonde
for the role of Boo Radley. Um. So, Emily calls
Rory to ask big questions we later find out was
(52:21):
too for her room. Emily says, Sunflowers it is. Now,
what about music in sync or ninety degrees? Emily says,
what about that other group, the Backside Boys. She ended
up going with the ninety degrees, which was maybe that
was all they could clear It was clearance, so in sync,
ninety Degrees and actually Backstreet Boys. These three groups are
(52:44):
what you think of when thinking of boy bands. In
a crazy twist, A J. McClean, Lance Bass and Nicholas
She all presented at the VMAs this year, the boy
band throwback we all needed. Yeah, boy bands just don't
go away. They're like cockroaches. They keep coming back and
dancing better than ever. What a nice thing to say.
I love I'm a big boy band fan, but like,
(53:07):
they don't go away, Like those guys have all been
around for like thirty years. Was Nick Carter in one
of those boy bands. Yeah, he's a backside boy. So
so let me tell you. I was you know, I
get I do personal appearances, and I was requested for
a private birthday party for some a very lovely heiress
(53:30):
type person from another country. Yes, so they fly in
the whole deal. And uh, she just loves sauce so much.
And I thought I was the main gig. I thought
I was at I was a warm up act for
Nick Carter, and Nick Carter showed up and with my
(53:52):
producer on guitar by the way, Nick performed. Nick performed
as a set with a guitar and a sort of
little bit legit a couple of guitars and acoustic guitars
and I think a drum machine. And he was fantastic. Yeah,
those guys can sing. Oh, he can sing his ass off.
He can sing his backside boys off. Yeah, they're really
(54:13):
called the Backstreet Great Songs. And he was I mean
what a performer. Those guys can all sing. Oh, but
I mean but just just how he performed. And she
was enthralled, and she's like, you know, she'd look at
me and go, what are you doing here? No, those
(54:34):
guys are all. He was great everybody. Yeah, I was
cladding my hands along with everybody else. Man, I was like,
go Nick. She said, ninety degrees in sync Backstreet Boys
is still totally relevant today, Like literally, ninety degrees just
released an album. Backstreet Boys are still totally touring and releasing.
(54:58):
They just were nominated for Grammy a couple of years
ago and then in Sync. Everybody's just waiting for the reunion. Hm.
Justin's like, yeah, I don't need that. Oh he was
involved with Jimberlake. Is insane. Justin Bieber was involved with Timberlake,
timber he was involved with these these kids. He was insane. Okay,
(55:22):
all right, Well I thought he was in a group
with Brittany where. Didn't they have like the Brittany and
Justin O my god, Scott is putting a dagger through
my nineties, wouldn't Didn't they have like a Sonny and Share?
Didn't they have their own show like Sonny and Share?
Justin dated Brittany? Why did they always work Denim together?
Everybody was warning Denim. That's an iconic photo. But they
(55:43):
were dating. They weren't a band. They didn't have a
band together. That was an outfit they wore by choice. Idea.
I gotta read. I gotta do some reading. Clearly, I
gotta got brown up on my DOOTI history. Anyway, speaking
of great singers, Rory and Larla are walking down the
street and more. Lie is upset about wanting a real
(56:05):
connection with Emily, and Rory says, can I ask you
a question? Lorelie says, yes, I would date Steven Tyler? Okay,
I was. I was debating when, and I'd tell the
story about right now. But what did What did Rory say?
Rory says, can I ask you question whose answer wouldn't
horrify me? So here's what I will say about Steven Tyler.
(56:31):
Number one, He's the nicest, So I am not I'm
friendly with Steven Tyler because I also produced Ryan Seacrest show. Obviously,
Ryan and Stephen our friends. So we were all on
vacation and like Tahoe together, and I'm very close to
Steven's manager, So we were having a barbecue, so we're like, oh,
just come over. So they're gonna come by boat on
like Tahoe, and we're thinking, like a little I don't
(56:53):
know why. I just thought it was going to be
a boat like everyone else has on Mike Tahoe a
tiny little, tiny boat. We look out the window and
we're like, that's not a boat, Like that's a yacht.
Like what's going on? So we call them and we're like,
do you have a captain on that thing? Like we
can't park that thing anyway. Long story short, we get
(57:13):
them off the boat. Even in his like Tahoe casual,
Stephen is very recognizable. And I'm not making this up.
We were walking. He's just a regular dude. So we're
just walking to the market to get hot dogs and
hot dog buns. I'm not making this up. And straight on,
a guy, not even a kid, like a man on
a bike is biking on the path that we're walking
(57:35):
on and literally saw Steven Tyler and almost fell off
the bike. People are just like, what is happening? So, yeah,
that's miss Steven Tyler's story. He's very uh you know,
he's a man of the people. He likes to be
out there with the people. Totally. He's not a stuck
up diva guy here. Yeah, he just he just wanted
(57:59):
a hot but like he just couldn't have been happier.
But he he he cannot be inconspicuous, like that's the thing.
He just is immediately, doesn't matter if there's a hat
or glasses, nothing. He's one of the great front men
in rock history. He's not shy. He's not a shy guy. Yeah.
(58:20):
A couple of fun facts about Steven Tyler. He has
his own line of scarves called rock Scarf, and he
has sent an interview that he can live off of
a good compliment for two months. Alright, So our last
one coming in hot is Emily and Rory talking about
Charlie's Angels, which we've discussed a little bit, but the
(58:42):
actual quotes are and he says there are women in
bikinis on them talking about the plates, and Rory says,
the original Charlie's Angels, it took us years to complete
a set. Who's your favorite Angel? Your favorite Charlie's Angel
of the o G Original Charlie's Angels. Fair Faucet obviously
me too, Me too. I mean by a mile, by
(59:06):
a ba jillion miles. All great, They're all great, and
you know, wow wow wow. But Fara Fause, it was
agreed Smith is as lovely today as she was in
the seventies. But if I could ever get my hair
to look like Farra Faucet, I'd be such a happy
gala Fara Faucet. I didn't have her poster on my
(59:28):
bedroom wall, the red bathing suit. Didn't didn't know, but
I knew people that did. Nor did I. But I
still love her hair. She was an amazing fun fact
about that poster um The leading ladies were asked to
do a promotional poster for the show, but only Fawcett
agreed to do it, and the poster sold over twelve
(59:48):
million copies long before the show's pilot episode even hit
the TV screen. Yeah did she get I guess she
got a piece of that huh oh yeahbably more red
bathing suits. Yeah, she's just iconic. I can't I'm gonna
have to start googling photos of her hair right after this.
The show aired from one and at the time of
(01:00:11):
the show was known for having the largest wardrobe budget.
The show had about two dollars for wardrobe for each episode. Hm,
back then that was a lot of money. Well, I'm
kind of like your Gilmore Girls wardrobe budget. Oh wait, no,
you were like the same shirt in the same my
budget once once a year. No, No, actually a couple
(01:00:33):
of times a year, I would go back to my
trailer and there would be twenty flannel shirts with a note, Scott,
please try these on. Let us know what you like.
That's it. That's that was because I wore my jeans. Now,
they had the jeans for me that I wore, but
I wore them home and then I wore That's all
they did, is I wore those all year. I had
(01:00:53):
my my boots that they gave me in a warm home. Right.
I left the hat there, I left the flannel there.
It was easy. What a gig, seriously, you had made.
And it's like if I had to do it the
second time during the twenty more shirts would be like again,
you know, and the poor girls, it's like every day
(01:01:16):
there's like twenty things I gotta go through and try on.
And did you have like two of each? Probably because
if you spill, probably, yeah, I think so, I don't know. Yeah,
they kept it. The budget was pretty tight on your
your wardrobe, so easy. I didn't cost him much, I'll
(01:01:37):
tell you, because they weren't even like the fancy of flannels.
They were your basic old flannel. Okay, my favorite line.
I already did and I don't know why it tickled
me so much, but it's when Kirk's like and laurelized,
just like you got a cold Kirk. I just for
some reason, I don't know. It was a great scene.
(01:01:59):
You want to try? That was fun about it. I
was like, one of my favorite Kirk so far. That
was good, good for a laugh, good for Riley. My
favorite line is from Laura Laura Lie and she says,
I'm sorry I missed the checkered flag. When did the
(01:02:20):
argument start? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. My favorite was already said
by Emily when she goes about the back backside boys.
So I'll give you another one. This one's from Laura
Lae and it's kind of in the beginning of the
episode as she goes, I don't know, maybe I got
lost in my big head after they were talking about
Laura Lee having a big head as a baby. Oh
(01:02:42):
my god, Wait was this the episode where Luke says,
here's your breakfast without eyes? Yes, yes, that was the title.
That's the title we used for this podcast episode. God,
of course, it's such a good question. Didn't want to
she w with the eggs on top of a pancakes.
That was a great bit by the way that whole
scene was so good. Did you give your amy? Did
you give your favorite? Yeah, I'm still I am reconsidering
(01:03:06):
that it could be here's your breakfast, no eyes. But
I also like you got a cold Kirk, So this
one had a lot. You get to go twice. I
haven't even gone yet. What's what's going on here? It's
like it's like I'm getting robbed. I mean, it's like,
where's my opportunity? Just go ahead and step in? Go ahead,
jesus um, I don't know. I'm on the fence. I
(01:03:29):
like I like the I like the Michelle line when
Run says it wasn't exactly a highlight of my life.
And then and then Michelle says, and I'm sure there's
so many from he slays me. That guy slays me. Man,
he could come on for one scene and just kill me.
(01:03:49):
I love that guy. I love that character. Am I
right that we only have two episodes left of season one?
I can't even is that true? I think that's right.
I just can't shack while you wrap it up? That
is correct? Wow, ladies and gentlemen, what an episode? All right? Kids?
I think we uh, I think we talked this one
(01:04:10):
out pretty good. Huh yeah, and we'll get some feedback
on those things you do. We need to get we
rode that hard and put it away. Well, we need
to get this horse in the barn, ladies and gentlemen.
And it went over. My alarm went off. I got
(01:04:33):
bigger fish to fry, buddy, and from my mind, alarm
tells me bigger fish to fry. All right, all right, everybody,
thanks for downloaded, Thanks for listening, and you're the best
fans on the planet. We love you. Keep sending the comments.
We can take it. We've got thick skins at this point.
We have leathery, sadly old West skins from your very constructive,
(01:04:59):
very very appreciated comments, whether they're negative or positive. We
don't we don't discriminate. We learn, we evolve, we reconstruct.
We and next week is P s IL But P
s L excuse me, what are you talking about? That
(01:05:21):
is next week? That's the name of the episode, m
P s I. Look, what are you even saying? You're
freaking me out right now. When you watch it, you'll
find that's the name of the episode. What PS yes?
Like I love oh p S Okay, So you're speaking
(01:05:44):
different language. What the heck you're doing. You need to
set that alarm off again. Alight, everybody, Thank you, you're
the best best fans on the planet. And oh man,
I need to eat some thing. All right, everybody, I
love everyone. Hello you and uh I'm Scott Patterson. This
(01:06:09):
is the ball Club. Thanks Danielle, Thanks Sammy, thank you, Riley,
um and we'll we'll see you next time. I'm Scott
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