November 11, 2025 • 21 mins
This episode was so fun and full of all of your town quirkiness!
Many of you have wondered, and we have the answer…how was Jess’s girlfriend Shane in two places at once?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in again. Oh that's just you. I
Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and Tara
(00:21):
suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another
episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tar
and Suzanne.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Today we're talking about season three, episode four, One's
Got Class and the Other One Dies, which aired on
October fifteenth, two thousand and two. I like this episode.
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, there was a lot going on, but it was
it was fun. It was just kind of a crazy,
offbeat sort of stars hollow.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I was gonna say, very stars hollow episode, which you know,
we don't We saw the high school.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Luke's you know, the beauty supply.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah they Does BedHead products still exist? Like is that
still around?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
There was a lot of BedHead products. I think there
was some Garnier in there, which I know is still around,
but like there was some other stuff where I was like, huh,
I want to like I wanted to really positi and
like start googling every product, but I only had so
much time. But yeah, overall, I really enjoyed it. I
do think my one big call out, Oh, BedHead products
(01:26):
do still exist, I just haven't seen it. The one
thing I wanted to call out, just I have to
start here because they were talking about the hair and eye.
There is no way. First of all, the wigs were
terrible the episode. Yes, and there's no way you could
dye your hair from bleach to purple to black to
(01:46):
back to black in yeah, three hours, right.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Especially considering that Rory has never done that before and
would have no idea what she was doing, so it's
not happening.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
The purple wig was literally picked up by a Spirit
Halloween sure, like it was so bad. Like I was
at Spirit Halloween to find like a Halloween costume for myself,
and I'm pretty sure I saw that wig.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, you could tell. It was like that super synthetic.
It wasn't even trying to be real hair.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Blonde one was a little better, but maybe because it was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wet, oh maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But also like, okay, I but.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Then all those moms were wearing bad wigs too.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh my god. Okay, So when the what was her name, Deb? Yes, Yeah,
when Deb was in it, mainly in the classroom, was
when I really clocked it. I was like, she wearing
a wig or was it just like a really weird
hair day? And then when I saw the moms and
I was like, oh, no, they're supposed to all like
be looking like they have the same hair, soyle, I'm like, yeah,
(02:51):
someone just someone just bought the worst wigs in town.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I know. But you know, couldn't it seems like they
could have cast people that had hair like that, you
know what I mean, Like it didn't necessarily have to
be wigs. They could have handled it in casting.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Uh, I mean, but like it's also that's all you
have to have some hell of volume in your hair. Yeah,
you know, I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Thought it was funny. Something I've never noticed until I
watched it this time around is because obviously, when the
moms are confronting Loralai on the street and she makes
the comment about how they all go to the same
crappy hairdresser, I didn't realize until this rewatch that she
mentions at the beginning of that episode how all the
stars Hollow moms look alike.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I hadn't caught that before either. She makes a
comment when when she's on the like Rory is trying
to she's got the phone in her hand. She's trying
to remind Loralai who this Debbie Fincher person is, and
she's like one of the Stars.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Hollow moms and Laura, which I also was like every
you know everyone in Stars Hollow. And then at the
end she says to the it's like, oh, it's so
good to see everyone. You guys have grown up, so
like it didn't like it was contradictory to what she
said earlier that she doesn't remember anyone. And also it
is such a sun time.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, maybe she remembered the kids but not the parents.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That could be it. But it's a small town, so
don't they all know each other? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Maybe I don't know. There's like ten thousand people there,
but I know from like volunteering in my kids classes
when they were little, Like I knew all the kids,
but I didn't really know the parents because the parents,
I mean I knew the ones that weren't in PTA.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But I guess that's kind of true. I feel like
people would remember, like like I think my parents would
remember the elementary school kids' parents more than high school
because there was more going on, as you know, like, yeah,
they take us everywhere. I have the most random call
out in this episode, and it really stuck out to me,
(04:52):
and it's so dumb. In the first scene when they're
at Luke's, there's an extra in the back okay, and
he has this patch of hair on his chin, and
it is so distracting.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like a soul patch, like a.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Soul patch, but it is like way too long. And
then that was.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
An unfortunate trend.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Very but then he makes an appearance again in this
scene because I was like, oh my god, it's the
guy with the soul patch. In the scene when Rory
and Lane are walking towards the beauty supply store, He's
like moving a pumpkin in the back. Oh funny, And
I was like, oh, they just had this. I mean,
(05:36):
I guess it makes sense you have the same extras
all week, but like, if he was just a normal guy,
would have not recognize him. But this soul patch was
like a dark color, just like it looked like a
sore thumb, just like you know what I mean. Like, yeah,
it was so bad, And I was like, I wonder
if Suzanne noticed this soul patch.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Because I think I specifically tried to look at the
background actors in the diner, and I didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I think he was behind Lane's shoulder. Okay, in that
first in that very first scene when she comes in
basically takes Rory's breakfast.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'll have to go back and look. I was trying
to pay attention to their hands. I wasn't really looking
at their faces.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Soul Patch distracted me. Yeah, out of all things, I'm like,
why do I notice this? Yeah, but there wasn't really anything.
I mean, I could be wrong, but there wasn't anything
to me that like stood out where I'm like, oh,
I I got distracted.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So yeah, it's you know, pumpkin Man, So soul Patch,
Pumpkin mover Man. There were a couple things, so one
I just want to call out in case it no Like,
just remind everyone this is the first episode where we
meet Zach and Brian.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I was wondering that because it felt so established that
I was like, did we see them before?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It seems like we should have, but they were Dave's
band and we just met Dave in the last episode,
so this was the first time that we meet Zach
and Bryan. So I always think of them as more
kind of the later years and I forget that they
were around in season three. And then something I always
like to think about in in you know, kind of
(07:14):
my own made up Gilmour universe, when Lane is talking
to them about how they can't play loud and why
because of her moment of that, and she mentions how
Kirk had a band called the Kirk Glease in five
and missus kim ran them off. And so when I like,
in my my fantasy Gilmour world, I wonder who was
(07:36):
Kirk in a band with? Like who were the other
four people?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Literally? And I like how it was like this man
in my town named Kirk, and I was like, never
heard of him refer to like that. It was just
so funny.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, it's just kind of funny to think about, like
who would Kirk have been in a band?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know, also not shock knowing this man has had
four hundred jobs. It was like, of course he was
in a band. He's done everything else.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's a good point. That's a good point. And then
the same scene when Lane is ranting and Dave is
like pushing her out the door, she picks up a
sweater as she's leaving the door, like leaving the inside
of the record shop or the music shop. When she
(08:21):
comes out of the door, she doesn't have the sweater
in her hand anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So. I also I also thought it was interesting because
she's usually trying to hide, but she's out there talking
to Dave, and I'm like, can my mom see you?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's true, that's a good point. I didn't even think
about that. She wasn't worried about it.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, yeah, because she's so worried about being loud inside
the music shop, but she's not worried about just being
seen with Dave on the sidewalk where her like mom's
hat or her house is like directly in view right store.
It's just I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I didn't even think about that, But you're right, that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Was the first thing. I'm like, oh my god, your
mom's gonna see you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
By the way, going back to her hair real quick,
did you notice that, like the first eye was like
a bunch of whipped cream.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes, and it was like a giant pile of it. Now,
I will admit I get my roots done too. She
does my hair. It's just like a little tiny amount
in the bottom of the bowl. It's not like a
giant pile of whipped cream. I mean out of a
giant bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I just did my hair. I did my highlights again
like two weeks ago, and I was like, I don't
remember it being like that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, the stuff that now. I am not a hair person,
so there's like different products, but I know what they
use on my hair is definitely like a cream. It's
not like a moose kind of texture and whatever whatever
Rory was using.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
On I mean, I guess they have like foamy.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, they had to like make it big and crazy
to for on camera, but I didn't think it was real.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
She was just like splatting it on her hair, like
one clump just fell like into the middle of her hair.
I'm like, all right, it was funny, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And she's working her way around Lane's head. She's doing
the top like she does the crown, and then she
does the end and so she's like this whole middle
section she doesn't even do.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But you know what, I could probably imagine how I
was gonna say at sixteen, It's probably how I would.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Do, right, Yeah, because she's never a collar her hair before,
so she's not gonna know how to do it, So
I'll cut her some slack on that, but it just
was funny to look.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I also love that Laura Laura gets to keep the
Polarid at her house. I kind of love it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So one thing that I see come up a lot
in the social media groups is I see a lot
of people wondering, and I'm gonna clear this up for
all of you. How is it that Shane was in
the beauty supply store and then she was in the closet,
and then she was in the beauty supply store.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I was like, I was actually thinking the same thing.
And then like also at the end when she's like walking,
I was like, she was everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I have an explanation for that because I went back
and I watched the sequence very closely. So the first
time that Lane and Rory go to the beauty salon
and they see Shane is a different it's there, it's
two different days. So Lorli calls Luke and reminds him
(11:27):
about the talk being tomorrow, and that's when she does
the Louis Armstrong thing. And the next scene is Lane
and Rory going to the beauty salon for the first time,
and that's when they buy the die and then the
very next scene is the next day because Lorli is
coming in to pick up Luke to school, and so
that's when they go upstairs and she says, you know,
(11:50):
he's got a girl in the closet. So and then
we see all the scenes where they're dyeing the hair,
and then there Luke Lorli are at the high school
and there's all there's all the hair problems. So there's
you know, several back and forth scenes between the hair
dyeing and Luke and Laureli at the high school. So
in that time, it had to have been like an hour,
(12:12):
two an hour and a half that Luke and Laurel
I were at school. So in that time, that was
plenty of time for Lane or for Shane to leave
the closet and go back to the beauty supply store
before Rory came back to buy the black dye. So
that's my solution.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You feel like I needed one of those whiteboards with like,
I get it what you were saying, but I feel
like I needed like a visual.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I literally had to write it down.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But then what doesn't make sense to me though, is
why weren't Jess and Shane at school?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, I think this must have been like some after
school club or something, because was at four pm?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Is that? What was it at four? Because I remember
on the chalkboard it said meeting at four, but then
there was something else that said three, So I yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So they said when when deb fincher Debbie Fincher, you know,
because she hates deb when she called LAURAAI, she said
four pm. And then when Laurla called Luke to remind
him I'll see you at four o'clock tomorrow. So the
talk was it for? So I guess because Leyne and
Rory weren't at school either, so it must have been
(13:17):
some kind of after school club.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Which, by the way, I don't know any students who
would be raising their hand and asking those questions, I know,
and then like continuing like no one got the hint.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like gossiping in the background. Sure, but I don't like them,
like literally asking an adult those questions.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Also really felt bad for Laura in that moment. That
wasn't fair to her.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, And it wasn't fair for those moms to blast
her afterwards. I mean, like they were in the one
mom especially was in the room like she saw it
happen it wasn't like Laura I brought it up herself.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Right, And also like when you're put on the spot
like that, like you know, what, what was she going
to say besides like, oh well, if I didn't if
it didn't happen, like and that's the thing is, like
she's she's very right. If she didn't have Rory at sixteen,
then she wouldn't have Rory, right, you know, like you
don't know what the world would bring. So like I
(14:15):
think her answer was okay.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I thought Laurel I was fine, And she did
try to change the subject. She kept trying to look
at her note cards again, you know, and but the
kids kept asking, and I didn't think that was Laurel's fault.
Those moms were wacky.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, so I did have one other super microscopic detail,
but that's just what my brain sees.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So Luke's track picture, okay, let's.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh my god, that wasn't minor.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I was like, who is to check with Scott? But
I think that really was his face. Like I think
they super imposed it onto a track picture, but I
think that that was his actual.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I was like, this has to be photoshopped because something
was off and I just couldn't tell what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think we can confirm with him, but I
think that was really him. But one thing I noticed
is that on the frame it said like high hurdles
champion whatever it said, but it said nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So oh, we're going deep.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I know, I know, I can't help it. I'm sorry.
So we know we haven't met Liz yet, but when
we do meet her, she says she's coming back for
her high school reunion because she wants to see what
the class of eighty four was up to. But we
know Luke is older than Liz, so Luke would not
still have been in high school in nineteen eighty four.
I just have to throw that out there.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That is one hell of a detail.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's just I can't help it. It's just how my
brain works.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know. I wish I remembered things. I have a
great memory, don't get me wrong, but things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But see then I can't remember, like important things like
I can't remember you know, other dates that I have
to do things. I have to write everything down, but
I remember this stupid crap.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm the other way. I will remember someone's birthday. I
will remember so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's how my husband is too. He couldn't remember like
exact dates that we did things in the past. I'm like,
how do you know that? And he's like, oh, because
blah blah blah. I like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I will remember like what I wore. I will remember
like what someone said word for a word, But when
it comes to details, it's so funny. I love the
way everyone's brain is different. That is that is a
I wonder if anyone else, if you notice that, please
put in the comments, because maybe I'm just out of it.
But that is Wait, so when does she say that?
Do you like we already saw that episode?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
No, we haven't because we haven't met Liz yet.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's right, we haven't. Oh you're just so well. But
then I wonder if then they worked backwards like they well,
not backwards. I'm sorry they ended up going backwards on
the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think it probably was just they just made this
prop and they didn't think it would matter what.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're doing, because they don't mention when she looks at
the picture, she doesn't mention the year. You're just saying
it was on the frame exactly. Yeah, they also probably
think about it two thousand and two. You couldn't stop,
you couldn't stop anything. They're like, no one's gonna notice this,
right five.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, and you know we're gonna meet Liz later. But
I'm sure that they didn't think no to make that
match like that just wouldn't have even occurred to them.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So I think the way she says, I'm here to
see what the class of eighty four is it up to.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But is that yeah, because she comes back.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But she's supposed to be class of eighty four.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Technically he's in the class of eighty four. And that's
when she's she like, it's the it's the It's the
Firelight Festival episode and she's hanging out with her friends
and they're going to go to a concert and they
invite it's the one with Crazy Carrie.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Wait when the frame does it say class
of eighty four? Does it say like just eighty four?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It just says nineteen eighty four, so.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It could have been.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh wait, no, but he's older, so you're great. Never
mind he'd been out of school by that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Never mind. I was thinking they could have been in
the high school at the same time.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So never mind, they probably were, but not in eighty.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Four, right, because if she graduated eighty four, if it
was like eighty two exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Then they like eighty one eighty two around there.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Then they could have been at school together, right exact,
he would have if she was graduating, he was already gone. Okay, yeah,
that makes it up.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
The student that is asking laurl I the questions about
her pregnancy was Ricky Lindholm, and we're going to see
her later. She turns up as one of Logan's.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Friends a couple of years downline.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I guess she left Stars Hollow and went to
school with Logan.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
When did Logan come what season h five five? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, because it was her second year.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah. Yeah, good episode.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Lots of good stuff going on here.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You know this, you us just figuring out when Logan
comes in. I'm like, I liked the beginning of the
college years.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, Marty, Yeah, the first couple of episodes were.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Good and Paris I enjoyed it. It was truly. I
have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the entire show until
the last season.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah. I mean I love all of it, but I
love some of it more than other parts.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, and then I I thoroughly loved it all except
the last season. I don't rewatch. I actually prefer which
is a hot take. I prefer the movies over the
last season.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
See, I liked the second half of season seven, the
first part of it where Luke and Laurelai were still fighting.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, yeah, I think that's why, because I can't stop
in the middle, so I'll start with like, you know,
the beginning of that season, so then I just feel
like I never can get through it. That's probably why.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, I have to skip the first couple episodes because
it's too painful. But once once Lorelei starts like kicking
Christopher to the curb, and then Luke and Lareli kind
of starts circling around each other again, Like I do
like the second seven And I like the movies too.
I know a lot of people hate them, but I
think the more you like fun watch them, the funnier
(20:27):
they kick.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, it's also like it was it was a time right,
Like it was so nostalgic of the time we've been
god knows how many years since we saw Gilmore Girls.
It was like a moment in time. So yeah, for sure. Anyway, well,
next week we'll be watching season three, episode five, eight
o'clock at the Oasis.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, that's a good one too. That's the auction episode.
We'll see you next week. Meeting adjourned.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
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suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to another
episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, Tar
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Today we're talking about season three, episode four, One's
Got Class and the Other One Dies, which aired on
October fifteenth, two thousand and two. I like this episode.
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, there was a lot going on, but it was
it was fun. It was just kind of a crazy,
offbeat sort of stars hollow.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I was gonna say, very stars hollow episode, which you know,
we don't We saw the high school.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Luke's you know, the beauty supply.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah they Does BedHead products still exist? Like is that
still around?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
There was a lot of BedHead products. I think there
was some Garnier in there, which I know is still around,
but like there was some other stuff where I was like, huh,
I want to like I wanted to really positi and
like start googling every product, but I only had so
much time. But yeah, overall, I really enjoyed it. I
do think my one big call out, Oh, BedHead products
(01:26):
do still exist, I just haven't seen it. The one
thing I wanted to call out, just I have to
start here because they were talking about the hair and eye.
There is no way. First of all, the wigs were
terrible the episode. Yes, and there's no way you could
dye your hair from bleach to purple to black to
(01:46):
back to black in yeah, three hours, right.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Especially considering that Rory has never done that before and
would have no idea what she was doing, so it's
not happening.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
The purple wig was literally picked up by a Spirit
Halloween sure, like it was so bad. Like I was
at Spirit Halloween to find like a Halloween costume for myself,
and I'm pretty sure I saw that wig.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, you could tell. It was like that super synthetic.
It wasn't even trying to be real hair.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Blonde one was a little better, but maybe because it was.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wet, oh maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But also like, okay, I but.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Then all those moms were wearing bad wigs too.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh my god. Okay, So when the what was her name, Deb? Yes, Yeah,
when Deb was in it, mainly in the classroom, was
when I really clocked it. I was like, she wearing
a wig or was it just like a really weird
hair day? And then when I saw the moms and
I was like, oh, no, they're supposed to all like
be looking like they have the same hair, soyle, I'm like, yeah,
(02:51):
someone just someone just bought the worst wigs in town.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I know. But you know, couldn't it seems like they
could have cast people that had hair like that, you
know what I mean, Like it didn't necessarily have to
be wigs. They could have handled it in casting.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Uh, I mean, but like it's also that's all you
have to have some hell of volume in your hair. Yeah,
you know, I.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Thought it was funny. Something I've never noticed until I
watched it this time around is because obviously, when the
moms are confronting Loralai on the street and she makes
the comment about how they all go to the same
crappy hairdresser, I didn't realize until this rewatch that she
mentions at the beginning of that episode how all the
stars Hollow moms look alike.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I hadn't caught that before either. She makes a
comment when when she's on the like Rory is trying
to she's got the phone in her hand. She's trying
to remind Loralai who this Debbie Fincher person is, and
she's like one of the Stars.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Hollow moms and Laura, which I also was like every
you know everyone in Stars Hollow. And then at the
end she says to the it's like, oh, it's so
good to see everyone. You guys have grown up, so
like it didn't like it was contradictory to what she
said earlier that she doesn't remember anyone. And also it
is such a sun time.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I mean, maybe she remembered the kids but not the parents.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That could be it. But it's a small town, so
don't they all know each other? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Maybe I don't know. There's like ten thousand people there,
but I know from like volunteering in my kids classes
when they were little, Like I knew all the kids,
but I didn't really know the parents because the parents,
I mean I knew the ones that weren't in PTA.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But I guess that's kind of true. I feel like
people would remember, like like I think my parents would
remember the elementary school kids' parents more than high school
because there was more going on, as you know, like, yeah,
they take us everywhere. I have the most random call
out in this episode, and it really stuck out to me,
(04:52):
and it's so dumb. In the first scene when they're
at Luke's, there's an extra in the back okay, and
he has this patch of hair on his chin, and
it is so distracting.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like a soul patch, like a.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Soul patch, but it is like way too long. And
then that was.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
An unfortunate trend.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Very but then he makes an appearance again in this
scene because I was like, oh my god, it's the
guy with the soul patch. In the scene when Rory
and Lane are walking towards the beauty supply store, He's
like moving a pumpkin in the back. Oh funny, And
I was like, oh, they just had this. I mean,
(05:36):
I guess it makes sense you have the same extras
all week, but like, if he was just a normal guy,
would have not recognize him. But this soul patch was
like a dark color, just like it looked like a
sore thumb, just like you know what I mean. Like, yeah,
it was so bad, And I was like, I wonder
if Suzanne noticed this soul patch.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Because I think I specifically tried to look at the
background actors in the diner, and I didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I think he was behind Lane's shoulder. Okay, in that
first in that very first scene when she comes in
basically takes Rory's breakfast.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'll have to go back and look. I was trying
to pay attention to their hands. I wasn't really looking
at their faces.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Soul Patch distracted me. Yeah, out of all things, I'm like,
why do I notice this? Yeah, but there wasn't really anything.
I mean, I could be wrong, but there wasn't anything
to me that like stood out where I'm like, oh,
I I got distracted.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So yeah, it's you know, pumpkin Man, So soul Patch,
Pumpkin mover Man. There were a couple things, so one
I just want to call out in case it no Like,
just remind everyone this is the first episode where we
meet Zach and Brian.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I was wondering that because it felt so established that
I was like, did we see them before?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It seems like we should have, but they were Dave's
band and we just met Dave in the last episode,
so this was the first time that we meet Zach
and Bryan. So I always think of them as more
kind of the later years and I forget that they
were around in season three. And then something I always
like to think about in in you know, kind of
(07:14):
my own made up Gilmour universe, when Lane is talking
to them about how they can't play loud and why
because of her moment of that, and she mentions how
Kirk had a band called the Kirk Glease in five
and missus kim ran them off. And so when I like,
in my my fantasy Gilmour world, I wonder who was
(07:36):
Kirk in a band with? Like who were the other
four people?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Literally? And I like how it was like this man
in my town named Kirk, and I was like, never
heard of him refer to like that. It was just
so funny.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, it's just kind of funny to think about, like
who would Kirk have been in a band?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You know, also not shock knowing this man has had
four hundred jobs. It was like, of course he was
in a band. He's done everything else.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
That's a good point. That's a good point. And then
the same scene when Lane is ranting and Dave is
like pushing her out the door, she picks up a
sweater as she's leaving the door, like leaving the inside
of the record shop or the music shop. When she
(08:21):
comes out of the door, she doesn't have the sweater
in her hand anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
So. I also I also thought it was interesting because
she's usually trying to hide, but she's out there talking
to Dave, and I'm like, can my mom see you?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's true, that's a good point. I didn't even think
about that. She wasn't worried about it.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, yeah, because she's so worried about being loud inside
the music shop, but she's not worried about just being
seen with Dave on the sidewalk where her like mom's
hat or her house is like directly in view right store.
It's just I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I didn't even think about that, But you're right, that.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Was the first thing. I'm like, oh my god, your
mom's gonna see you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
By the way, going back to her hair real quick,
did you notice that, like the first eye was like
a bunch of whipped cream.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes, and it was like a giant pile of it. Now,
I will admit I get my roots done too. She
does my hair. It's just like a little tiny amount
in the bottom of the bowl. It's not like a
giant pile of whipped cream. I mean out of a
giant bowl.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I just did my hair. I did my highlights again
like two weeks ago, and I was like, I don't
remember it being like that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, the stuff that now. I am not a hair person,
so there's like different products, but I know what they
use on my hair is definitely like a cream. It's
not like a moose kind of texture and whatever whatever
Rory was using.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
On I mean, I guess they have like foamy.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, they had to like make it big and crazy
to for on camera, but I didn't think it was real.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
She was just like splatting it on her hair, like
one clump just fell like into the middle of her hair.
I'm like, all right, it was funny, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And she's working her way around Lane's head. She's doing
the top like she does the crown, and then she
does the end and so she's like this whole middle
section she doesn't even do.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
But you know what, I could probably imagine how I
was gonna say at sixteen, It's probably how I would.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Do, right, Yeah, because she's never a collar her hair before,
so she's not gonna know how to do it, So
I'll cut her some slack on that, but it just
was funny to look.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I also love that Laura Laura gets to keep the
Polarid at her house. I kind of love it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So one thing that I see come up a lot
in the social media groups is I see a lot
of people wondering, and I'm gonna clear this up for
all of you. How is it that Shane was in
the beauty supply store and then she was in the closet,
and then she was in the beauty supply store.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I was like, I was actually thinking the same thing.
And then like also at the end when she's like walking,
I was like, she was everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I have an explanation for that because I went back
and I watched the sequence very closely. So the first
time that Lane and Rory go to the beauty salon
and they see Shane is a different it's there, it's
two different days. So Lorli calls Luke and reminds him
(11:27):
about the talk being tomorrow, and that's when she does
the Louis Armstrong thing. And the next scene is Lane
and Rory going to the beauty salon for the first time,
and that's when they buy the die and then the
very next scene is the next day because Lorli is
coming in to pick up Luke to school, and so
that's when they go upstairs and she says, you know,
(11:50):
he's got a girl in the closet. So and then
we see all the scenes where they're dyeing the hair,
and then there Luke Lorli are at the high school
and there's all there's all the hair problems. So there's
you know, several back and forth scenes between the hair
dyeing and Luke and Laureli at the high school. So
in that time, it had to have been like an hour,
(12:12):
two an hour and a half that Luke and Laurel
I were at school. So in that time, that was
plenty of time for Lane or for Shane to leave
the closet and go back to the beauty supply store
before Rory came back to buy the black dye. So
that's my solution.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You feel like I needed one of those whiteboards with like,
I get it what you were saying, but I feel
like I needed like a visual.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I literally had to write it down.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But then what doesn't make sense to me though, is
why weren't Jess and Shane at school?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, I think this must have been like some after
school club or something, because was at four pm?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Is that? What was it at four? Because I remember
on the chalkboard it said meeting at four, but then
there was something else that said three, So I yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So they said when when deb fincher Debbie Fincher, you know,
because she hates deb when she called LAURAAI, she said
four pm. And then when Laurla called Luke to remind
him I'll see you at four o'clock tomorrow. So the
talk was it for? So I guess because Leyne and
Rory weren't at school either, so it must have been
(13:17):
some kind of after school club.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Which, by the way, I don't know any students who
would be raising their hand and asking those questions, I know,
and then like continuing like no one got the hint.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like gossiping in the background. Sure, but I don't like them,
like literally asking an adult those questions.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Also really felt bad for Laura in that moment. That
wasn't fair to her.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, And it wasn't fair for those moms to blast
her afterwards. I mean, like they were in the one
mom especially was in the room like she saw it
happen it wasn't like Laura I brought it up herself.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Right, And also like when you're put on the spot
like that, like you know, what, what was she going
to say besides like, oh well, if I didn't if
it didn't happen, like and that's the thing is, like
she's she's very right. If she didn't have Rory at sixteen,
then she wouldn't have Rory, right, you know, like you
don't know what the world would bring. So like I
(14:15):
think her answer was okay.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I thought Laurel I was fine, And she did
try to change the subject. She kept trying to look
at her note cards again, you know, and but the
kids kept asking, and I didn't think that was Laurel's fault.
Those moms were wacky.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, so I did have one other super microscopic detail,
but that's just what my brain sees.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So Luke's track picture, okay, let's.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh my god, that wasn't minor.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I was like, who is to check with Scott? But
I think that really was his face. Like I think
they super imposed it onto a track picture, but I
think that that was his actual.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I was like, this has to be photoshopped because something
was off and I just couldn't tell what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think we can confirm with him, but I
think that was really him. But one thing I noticed
is that on the frame it said like high hurdles
champion whatever it said, but it said nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So oh, we're going deep.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I know, I know, I can't help it. I'm sorry.
So we know we haven't met Liz yet, but when
we do meet her, she says she's coming back for
her high school reunion because she wants to see what
the class of eighty four was up to. But we
know Luke is older than Liz, so Luke would not
still have been in high school in nineteen eighty four.
I just have to throw that out there.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That is one hell of a detail.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's just I can't help it. It's just how my
brain works.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know. I wish I remembered things. I have a
great memory, don't get me wrong, but things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
But see then I can't remember, like important things like
I can't remember you know, other dates that I have
to do things. I have to write everything down, but
I remember this stupid crap.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm the other way. I will remember someone's birthday. I
will remember so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's how my husband is too. He couldn't remember like
exact dates that we did things in the past. I'm like,
how do you know that? And he's like, oh, because
blah blah blah. I like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I will remember like what I wore. I will remember
like what someone said word for a word, But when
it comes to details, it's so funny. I love the
way everyone's brain is different. That is that is a
I wonder if anyone else, if you notice that, please
put in the comments, because maybe I'm just out of it.
But that is Wait, so when does she say that?
Do you like we already saw that episode?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
No, we haven't because we haven't met Liz yet.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's right, we haven't. Oh you're just so well. But
then I wonder if then they worked backwards like they well,
not backwards. I'm sorry they ended up going backwards on
the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I think it probably was just they just made this
prop and they didn't think it would matter what.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
You're doing, because they don't mention when she looks at
the picture, she doesn't mention the year. You're just saying
it was on the frame exactly. Yeah, they also probably
think about it two thousand and two. You couldn't stop,
you couldn't stop anything. They're like, no one's gonna notice this,
right five.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, and you know we're gonna meet Liz later. But
I'm sure that they didn't think no to make that
match like that just wouldn't have even occurred to them.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So I think the way she says, I'm here to
see what the class of eighty four is it up to.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
But is that yeah, because she comes back.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But she's supposed to be class of eighty four.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Technically he's in the class of eighty four. And that's
when she's she like, it's the it's the It's the
Firelight Festival episode and she's hanging out with her friends
and they're going to go to a concert and they
invite it's the one with Crazy Carrie.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Wait when the frame does it say class
of eighty four? Does it say like just eighty four?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It just says nineteen eighty four, so.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
It could have been.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh wait, no, but he's older, so you're great. Never
mind he'd been out of school by that.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Never mind. I was thinking they could have been in
the high school at the same time.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So never mind, they probably were, but not in eighty.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Four, right, because if she graduated eighty four, if it
was like eighty two exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Then they like eighty one eighty two around there.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Then they could have been at school together, right exact,
he would have if she was graduating, he was already gone. Okay, yeah,
that makes it up.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
The student that is asking laurl I the questions about
her pregnancy was Ricky Lindholm, and we're going to see
her later. She turns up as one of Logan's.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Friends a couple of years downline.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I guess she left Stars Hollow and went to
school with Logan.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
When did Logan come what season h five five? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, because it was her second year.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah. Yeah, good episode.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Lots of good stuff going on here.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You know this, you us just figuring out when Logan
comes in. I'm like, I liked the beginning of the
college years.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, Marty, Yeah, the first couple of episodes were.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Good and Paris I enjoyed it. It was truly. I
have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the entire show until
the last season.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah. I mean I love all of it, but I
love some of it more than other parts.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, and then I I thoroughly loved it all except
the last season. I don't rewatch. I actually prefer which
is a hot take. I prefer the movies over the
last season.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
See, I liked the second half of season seven, the
first part of it where Luke and Laurelai were still fighting.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, yeah, I think that's why, because I can't stop
in the middle, so I'll start with like, you know,
the beginning of that season, so then I just feel
like I never can get through it. That's probably why.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, I have to skip the first couple episodes because
it's too painful. But once once Lorelei starts like kicking
Christopher to the curb, and then Luke and Lareli kind
of starts circling around each other again, Like I do
like the second seven And I like the movies too.
I know a lot of people hate them, but I
think the more you like fun watch them, the funnier
(20:27):
they kick.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Well, it's also like it was it was a time right,
Like it was so nostalgic of the time we've been
god knows how many years since we saw Gilmore Girls.
It was like a moment in time. So yeah, for sure. Anyway, well,
next week we'll be watching season three, episode five, eight
o'clock at the Oasis.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, that's a good one too. That's the auction episode.
We'll see you next week. Meeting adjourned.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Hey, everybody off again.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
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