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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am all in. Oh, I will kiss you. I
am all in with Scott Patterson and I Hurt radio podcast. Okay,
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thank you, I got the dead bumps. This thing won't lock.
This thing won't lock a matter. Good thing is I
don't want to come in. Okay, good, good. So Truesdale
is trying to break it. Just just Matt, Matt Suer, Hello, Scott,
so great to have you. Tru Stale is trying to crash.
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You know, thank you. I just gave him. I'll tell you,
I'll give you. I'll give you a little backstory. I said, listen.
Zuker has got a line around the building. He's said
we can do ten minutes. Come on, let's do one
on one and he goes, no, I already did your show.
I don't want to be on it again, just like
going on a talk show five times. Said yeah, people
go on talk shows five times. Sure. They want to
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keep their name out there, they want to keep their
projects out there. So that's why we were bickering when
you wanted it. We were bickering, yeah, and then you
walked up. But I didn't need him anymore that right, No,
I wanted to Hey, we um, I wanted to chat
again and and um and talk with you again. So
I'm happy we're doing it solo now. So so here's
here's the situation. Kang Um, Matt came in for one
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day to this, to this convention. What'd you come in
from Atlanta? Yeah? Yeah, So you're working on Stop right,
you're doing your resident and it's it's you're in every
scene probably in it's wall to wall. You must be exhausted.
So you come in for the convention for one day.
You've got tons of people here want your autograph and
taking selfies and I mean it's just like your line
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was huge. So um, and Matt has so graciously given
us a time at the end of his day. Uh.
And I know you must be exhausted. I know you
have dinner plans, we do two. And I really really
appreciate this because you're giving us the time and we're
not going to take up a lot of your time.
I want to get into like thank you for saying that,
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and thank you. I really do appreciate it because I'm
I'm dragging myself. I'm so tired. It's like, you know,
the traveling and the whole thing, and it's just like
but I want to dig in to who you are,
why you're so good at what you do? Why do
you think? Why do you think people respond to you
the way that they do, Because it's very very very positive.
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You must know this at this point. You know they
talk about you know, it's beyond looks and all that stuff.
It's it's it's this depth of talent. So tell me
how was this something you always had where you studied
your love of the craft. Talk about that a little bit.
But thank you for saying that, Um that that means
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a lot to me. You know, I whatever I do,
I try to give every thing to it, and um,
whether it be here today with the questions that everybody
has had, or whether it be my work on any show.
It it really is something where I'm trying to constantly learn,
trying to constantly get better, trying to um study the
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craft and keep on working and just keep on working.
I think it's about putting in that time and trying
to tap into these characters, UM, into their thoughts, into
their motions, into their experiences, and and really digging into
that in on a constant basis. The more that you
invest in it, then the more I think you can
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get an authenticity to the character, and I hope that, um,
what fans connect to is to the authenticity that hopefully
I'm trying to bring to the characters. What are some
of your favorite movies. What are some of the things
that left indelible impressions on you? What were the performances,
Who are the actors who do you love? You know,
those authentic performances and those raw and deep performances like
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Philip Seymour Hoffman was one of my favorites. Uh. Ryan
Gosling is is one of my favorites. So I you know,
I'm I'm more about those those kind of performances where
I feel like you're actually that person and that character
is going through an experience and I can connect to that,
and and I tried to do that in my own work. Um,
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some of the TV shows I love, uh like Luther, Um,
The Dark Knight is actually one of my all time
favorite movies. Heath Ledger and The Joker and that, and
you look at that in a way where that performance,
uh is so raw and incredible, and he was following
in people's footsteps and I think in a lot of
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ways he he gave his life to that performance, you know,
And it's just an incredible thing for an actor to
go so deep and so into the character u um.
And then you see that I think on screen with
who he was as the Joker, and it's just it's
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this this beautiful and painful thing to watch him do
that as an actor, because it's so just again that
word authentic, raw, unique, powerful, honest, truthful, and he had
to go to some lengths to get to that place.
And that when that movie came out, it made me
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so sad in the in the idea that he didn't
get a chance to feel all that success. And I
met him one time, um when yeah, I met him
one time, and he made an impression on me that
one time when I met him as a person, um,
and that performance has made an impression on me. And
and uh so I try to find a way to
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be raw and authentic and honest in in the work
that I'm that I'm doing. So do you feel that
you have That was gonna be my next question. Do
you feel that you begin given the upper tunity to
show the world what you're capable of doing, how deep
you can go. I think I think each of the
characters that I've played have been at the right time
for me personally in professionally in terms of you know,
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Amy and Dan um Palladino with Gilmore Girls. They they
took a shot on me. You know, I hadn't done
that much, and so personally and professionally, that was really
my first big job. And like we talked about earlier,
you know, hitting a mark and finding your light like
I didn't. I didn't know many of those things at
that period of time, and so that was the right
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character for me personally and professionally at that time. Then
The Good Wife, when I did that show, UM, the
first couple of days, I realized, I don't know how
long this show is gonna go, but I know that
I'm surrounded by all these great actors, and UM, I
need to learn every single second that I have from
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each of these actors. UM. In season two two, actually
season two, in season three, I watched virtually all the dailies.
They gave me access to the dailies, and uh, my
friend Archie Pinjabi was on the show. She recommended that,
and production was so kind to allow me to watch
the dailies, and so I would comb through the dailies
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and my own performance, other actors performances and see what
was working in certain takes and what was not. So
to your original question, just trying to work as much
as I can on the craft in different ways, to
learn different things, whether it be watching um TV and film,
or whether it be breaking down the dailies, or whether
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it be seeing that Archie Panjabi on The Good Wife
what she did with the subtext. We were kind of
each other's acting coaches actually on that job, and she
could take these, uh, the lines, the words I think
my character is thinking this. I'm like, okay, you can
play that whatever, it's not gonna show up in the show,
and it show it up and I was like, oh
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my gosh, like that just blew my mind. And then
Josh Charles was great with the rehearsal process and how
he would break down the rehearsal process. So I tried
to take things from each of the actors that I
learned to try to, like kind of Frankenstein the whole
thing for myself in a lot of ways. And then
I feel, more to your question, UM with with Conrad Hawkins,
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it's there, It's there's so much material there and we've
been doing it for six seasons, that this is a
fully realized character in terms of the journey he's taken.
And I wouldn't have been able to do this job. Um,
back when I was doing Gilmore Girls, I just I
couldn't handle it. I didn't have the the knowledge and
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the understanding to do it. So to answer your question,
I feel like personally and professionally is lined up for
me in terms of the right characters and the right
projects at the right time. And just to kind of conly,
just keep trying to learn what do you think about next?
I know the Resident is in six Okay, so this
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is a nice long run. How long do you think
it can go? How long do you want it to
go and do? What's what's beyond? What are you thinking?
What do you want to do beyond that? Yeah, I
mean it's with its season six now and coming up
on that hundred episodes, if we it could be closer
to the end than it is the beginning, because now
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you're getting to that symbolic number there in a hundred episodes. Um,
So of course I'm not quite sure how long it
will go. And for me, I I you know, kind
of is those questions you asked me I'm fully invested
in those characters and in the time in those characters,
so my head is really consumed by this guy's thoughts
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in the show and trying to do the best that
I can. I'm thinking in my head right now about
certain scenes I'm gonna go back and work on this week.
So to say it's it's it's tricky to think about
the next thing. And as I mentioned before, I try
tolign things up personally and professionally where I'm at with
that next job. So it's hard to clear my head
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in this moment beyond Conrad Hawkins, beyond the resident, to
know what that next thing is going to be, right,
that lines up, whatever it may be. I'd like to
think that the choices I've made there's some sort of
universal theme that I think can connect to people. You know,
we've talked about Gilmore Girls of course a lot today,
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but those universal themes of the mother and the daughter,
and I mentioned with um Logan in terms of him,
I felt he was pushing Rory to think outside the box,
to um live her best life, to push herself. I
felt like that was a theme that that people can
connect to universally. With Conrad on the resident of the
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questions of life and death with the health care system.
These are universal themes that I think will make an
impact on audiences. So I try to look for those
those themes that I feel are gonna be a connection
that I can make. And that's really the again talking
about the personal and professional lining up. You know, when
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I got the pilot for the Residents and read that,
you know, I had a close friend in ten who
passed away and I was there with him on his
last day. Um My mom was a nurse. Um a
close friend of mine. Her mother had passed away in
and I got the pilot in twenty seventeen, and so
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I was in that headspace of of experiencing those heavy
losses that I thought that, Okay, this is something that
I can bring in authentic voice too, because I've actually
experienced some of these losses and these questions of of
life and death are universal to people. So uh, that's
why personally and profession at that time, the resident was
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the right choice in So talk to me a little
bit about the kinds of meetings. Are you getting the
kinds of meetings that you want? An independent film and
feature film is the feature side? Um? Um, uh calling out?
Are they offering opportunities? Are you meeting directors? Are what's
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going on over there? Because I personally want to see
you in some really classy, gritty indie projects because you
have such you know, I don't know you that well.
I spent some time with you and we did some
work together. I didn't think we did some really good
work together. I watched you do phenomenal work with with
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with with Greg, with with with your dad in the
show Mr Huntsberger. I mean it was just extraordinary work.
As I mentioned before, absolutely the highest level work that
you can do, and you did it thin ease. I watched.
I don't want to beat a dead horse, you're but
I watched that scene twenty times and marveled at the skill.
Just was like, man, I never realized. So I want
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people to discover you and what you're capable of doing.
And I think independent film is a good because you have.
And now that I'm getting to know spending a little
time with you and really talking to you and see
how you interact with people, UM, I've gained such a
new respect for you. Thank you, and I just you're
such a solid grounded guy. You treat everybody with respect.
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You have this depth of talent and now I and
but there is a sadness there, you know, and I
have that too. I feel it too. I've had a
lot of loss since two thousand and eight and and
it and it changes a person. And I want to
see that. And you'll put those in the performance. And
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you are putting and you can't help but put those
in the performance. So our our independent film to Rector's
producers reaching out, are you getting these meetings because if
you're not, you should be well, thank you and thank
you for those words. I mean that that one it's
it's just beautiful to hear that. But also that does
it will be something that um truly will push me
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and inspire me to keep to keep going. You know,
in terms of being an actor, we all support each
other in that way so that when you're going through
a tough time or on set, you know, I'm gonna
think of this moment with you, or or when I'm
done with the resident, I'm gonna think of this moment
with you in the words that you said, because we
all need that that confidence in that push like I'll
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you know, I'll take pictures of when I'm on hiatus
with my god daughter, for example, and I'll just look
at it and our video or she'll send me a
voice message. You know, we all need those uplifting things.
So thank you so much for saying that. That's that,
That's very kind of you to say. And yeah, I
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want to see more Matt Sucre and classy independence. I
want to see in feature films. I mean, what a package, right,
I mean you want to comment on this from like,
I don't want to put you on the spot or
embarrass you. I'm not trying to know. No, I don't
feel thank you, but Tara from your perspective. I want
to get Tara's perspective because I want to hear what
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you and your friends uh talk about when you mentioned
in Matt Sucre, because Amy, like Amy's just over the
moon about you, She's crazy about you. Please give her
my life. We have we have here we well, first off,
thank you for doing this my pleasure. I have been
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a Gilmore Girls fan from the very beginning and watch
with my mom growing up. So this is like working
with you guys is just very surreal. Um, it really is.
It really is, like I I never thought like however
old I was when when the show came out that
I'd be sitting across from you talking to you. Um,
I will say, though I I started. Yeah, the female perspective,
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I think you bring something that you're just so likable.
Like you know, there's some characters even I watched The
Resident as well, and I've I've binged it through the pandemic,
and there are times where we kind of or even
as logan like we want to hate you, but we
can't do you know what I mean? And I think
that just you as a character and talking to you
like you know earlier, I just camp to you and
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I will say you are one of the kindest people
I've I've met today, um, and and things like that.
I think, um, people remember that, like I'm gonna leave
and say, like, you know, you're one of the kindest
people I've met, those little moments. But I will say,
as a female perspective, Um, if we go back to
Gilmore Girls, there was that moment where you really pushed Rory,
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and I think Rory needed that in her life. And
I think that people, um, like myself look at that
as like, oh I wish I had like a logan
to my life. I wish I had a boyfriend, like
like logan, Um. Yeah, so I think is that what
you wanted? Sky? Is that what you want to That's
I mean, perfectly said, right, perfectly said. Because these these
these much beloved characters, the the Laurelai and the Rory.
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I mean, I don't know if there are two more
iconic characters. And and I mean they're up there in
the top ten of television history mother daughter or you know,
maybe in the top five. But to be it, but
to be a part, to facilitate into aid and to
help and to try to guide. I am looking forward
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to seeing these episodes. I'm not we're not there yet.
We're almost we're almost rapping season three, but you're coming
in in five and it's like that's gonna be another one.
That's gonna be another six months, So I gotta wait
six months. I love I love your podcast, man, I
love how you do that. That's just that's so it
is great. Thank you. We're having fun. We're having fun
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and people are gonna be very excited that that you're
on UM. Talk a little bit more about what formed
um your desire to get into the business and to
to become an actor. Because I know you went to
college around here. Uh, in College of Charles, Charleston. You
you played tennis. I did so a naturally competitive person. Um,
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So tell us a little bit about how the acting
button hit you. I didn't grow up around it. It
was one of those things where I thought that was
not something that I could do that other people did that. Um,
you know, it's it's it's it's I didn't know it
was a job. I I any of that. Um. But
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what I always did is I created characters a lot
of times. And and my my brothers and my sister, Um,
they all inspired me to keep pushing to make these
characters when I was at home. But again, never thought
about acting at all. A major in history and political science.
I was planning on being a lawyer. My sister when
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I was a sophomore in college, had no plans to
act at all. And we're walking on the beach here
and not too far from here in Charleston, and she says,
you're going to be an actor. And I'm like, what
are you talking about? And she's like, you're going to
be an actor. I just I just know it. And
this was then years after I was a working actor.
I asked her. I came back and I said, why
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did you think I was going to be an actor?
And she said, because when you created those characters, you
made me believe that you were that character. And then
she said, more importantly, you believe that you were that character.
So uh, and I hadn't asked that was like five
or six, you mean was probably around Gilmour Girls time,
So um, I think you know. I I loved telling stories.
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I loved for example, as a kid, I loved, uh
The Incredible Hulk a TV show, and after that, after
I watched an episode, I would go and smash things
up and punch pillowcases. My mom would uh die my
underwear purple before there was under rus. So I would
really watch that and be affected by it and then
want to become those those characters. And then when I
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was thinking about it as a career, I felt like, Okay, well,
if I do have an opportunity to do it, then
maybe I can impact other people. And you know this,
this convention is a perfect example of We've experienced so
many people who have been so impacted by the work
that we've done, and that is the ultimate thing, is
to to make an impact on individuals that I may
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never meet. Of course, here we've met some, but there's
gonna be some people I never meet, and you and
I have had an impact on them. So that's kind
of the impetus for why I became an actor was
creating those characters. I had the support of my family
to go and try it, and the feeling like I
had it was purposeful for me to make an impact
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on others like other shows had made and care Richer's
had made on me. Tell us about can you tell
me one character that what's the most memorable character you
created when you were getting a little older that your
sister may be referring to that just was so memorable
for her. Man Um. You know, my brother and I
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we were on a bunk beds together and we would
always say at the end of each night, we'd say,
tell me a story you want to hear, and that
was our thing. You want to hear the one about
the motorcycle game, you want to hear the one about
the gun. You want to hear one about this, And
we would do that. But oftentimes I went to um Um.
I went to church a lot when I was a kid,
and so I would usually come home after church and
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give a whole another sermon, so in the living room,
and I would, you know, I would, But and I
wanted everything as much as it could possibly be believable
from what we just saw, in terms of little pieces
of head, in terms of the cloth, in terms of
um my mannerisms, in terms of what I was, what
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what I was wearing in the wardrobe, even at that
young age. And I'm very much like that now again
going back to your original a question of just trying
to capture everything in order to make it as authentic
as possible. So the one that jumps to my head
is I would would come home after church and I
would basically do my own my own ceremony, and and
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uh and and and be a priest, there be a pastor.
So that that's the one that I remember. Yeah, interesting, listen, Uh,
you've given us enough time. If there if there's anything
you want to talk about that we haven't mentioned, or
you want you want to talk about something, we can
talk about it. No. No, I'm just uh, you know,
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I'm I you know, when they asked to do this,
I wanted, I've wanted to do it, and I'm I'm
excited to see you and be here here, and I'm
really happy for you for what you have going on
in your life and your work, and so you know,
I'm I'm here for you if you want more time,
if we feel like we're good, we're good. I think
we're good. I think I can't impose anymore. You're too
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nice a guy, so you'll let me. You're You're the
kind of guy's gonna stay here all night because because
you're that guy. Well has been really special for me.
You know, we obviously we worked together UM a long
time ago, and and to be able to be here
with you and reflect on that and reflect on the
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journey we've had since then as people and as actors
is important. You know, it's special, and it's important. And
what we did on the show and where we are now,
there's a certain instant connection there that you have with
the experiences that we went through. So it's really I mean,
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this is a gift to me in terms of being
able to mark this as UH an actor and as
a person, and to be here in Charleston to reflect
on these things. Here's the lesson that Matt Zukri is
teaching the world. Uh. If I'm a little dim but
I'm sure everybody's gotten it before me. Gratitude, respect, been
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grateful for what you have. That's Matt sure and now
I I really get it now, So thank you for
giving us your time. I haven't really enjoyed spending this
time with you, too, And it's really a nice feeling
connecting with you after all these years and getting to
know you a little better. Me too, and I want
to continue that journey. Yeah, it's it's been great with
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with you into for both of us. Hopefully this conversation
can keep pushing us forward with reflect whether it be
personally a professional absolutely, man, thank you, thank you very much.
Does not get better than met Okay, that's thanks, thank
you so much. But take care and that's it. Uh. Well,
thanks everybody for downloading. Uh and we will see you
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