All Episodes

September 4, 2023 41 mins

So much to discuss!  As we approach the Season 5 Finale we are discussing, debating, and disagreeing!
First, are you kidding me??  No one just gets a vasectomy sprung on them the day of their child's birth!  We really have a bone to pick on this same day vasectomy with no warning or discussion thing!
 
Let's move on to Rory.  Rory...we love you but really ??? You're going to throw everything away and steal a boat over some nonsense Mitchum has to say!
 
Kirk, you saved $247,000!  Way to go buddy!  We're doing some math to figure out how he did it...and it's not impossible!
 
Lorelai, you look amazing in orange but rip off the band-aid and tell your mom about the article.  And, have you suddenly forgiven her behavior at the re-wedding?!  Feels like you have.
 
Luke, why aren't you telling Lorelai about the house and that you want to buy it for her!  Feels like too big of a thing to keep as a secret?!?! Right?

Lorelai and Luke...we're analyzing your sex life.  Yep, we said it.  Lorelai thinks she's pregnant but doesn't really WANT to be pregnant and this really has us going at it.
And, Lorelai TMI with the sex talk with your daughter.  We know your BFF but...it was too much!
 
This episode has some saucy double entendre and we like it!
 
How much is toast going for these days?
 
Logan, we're ok with you this episode.  

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
I Am all in.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I I'm all in podcast. I
am enjoined by my intrepid crew Terra, Amy Dan Yell.
We are gonna do and let me just say, iHeartRadio
and one eleven Productions produce this episode for you, especially
in their cubicles. This is gonna be part two of

(00:42):
Season five, Episode twenty one, Blame Ooz and Melville. We
just got to talk and so much about it. We
had so much to say, we need to split it
up into two episodes, So this is gonna be part two.
Enjoy it everyone.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
So here is where we find out that Kirk has
just a quarter of a million dollars and that he
has also put down an offer on the Twickham House.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I just love that he acknowledged he had like ten
thousand jobs.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Fifteen thousands, yeah, fifteen thousands. I just love that he acknowledged,
Like we say it every week, but like for him
to actually say it is really funny.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
It also establishes Luke as being like, because he says
it himself, who has that here except for me?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:25):
Like it does it does establish him as probably the
wealthiest man in stars Hollow. Yeah, Kirk doesn't pay rent
minus Kirk now, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Well right, Kirk has that money because he has literally
never had to spend a dime other than the dollar
ten on the toes it has.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
But Luke has a greater net worth. He is, He's
got for sure, please far more. Oh, yeah, Kirk has.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It is interesting though that you may not be as
sign What is it when you when you don't have
a lot of cash? You see, did not have as
much in the bank for the down payment as Kirk does.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well you know, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Liquid, that's the word liquid. Yeah, and he's got two
hundred and forty seven thousand dollars. Could somebody do the math?
How old is Kirk? Oh, it's not actually as much
as you would think, because if he's been working for say,
say he looks like thirties.

Speaker 7 (02:22):
Right, he said eleven years.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Eleven years, So what's quarter of a million divided by
eleven he's only been making twenty two thousand dollars a
year's actually.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Because you have to account for the compounded interest that
you know what.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
But we didn't account for taxes. I didn't account for taxes.
So yes, but I didn't account for taxes, so he not.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
He hasn't paid taxes yet.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, he's paid. He had to pay taxes on his income.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Actually, you know what, he's just compiling cash, so he's
not reporting it. He's not. He's right.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
So I think he was making forty thousand dollars a year,
so that he was his net was twenty two thousand,
and that's how he got to the quarter of a million,
you know. So it's doable. It's very believable. It's believable.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Anyway, maybe he got Hollywood threw a lot of money
at him for those films by Kirk oh.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, and when he's nickel and diming the toast.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Like he had some jobs that are yeah, some jobs
that are pretty good. I also like that we talked
a lot about stars Hollow Bang oh. And then we
go into the weird sauna wasn't it a sauna? And
we see the town elders for the one and only
time in the run of the series.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
I was interested. I was so upsetsed that the wise
one had the towel over his head, like.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
It was like it was so good.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
His voice sort of reminded me of Patrick Stewart. I
was like, Jean Lucard under.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
There, No, that was I was just confused, and Scott
was like, who are these people? I'm like, I'm not Scott, sorry, Luke.
When Luke was like who are these people, I'm like,
don't they do they not know?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yes? They do? Does he say that?

Speaker 7 (04:14):
Yeah, he does because he.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Knows those are the elders because they knew him and
they knew his father. And I don't know the.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Exact line, but it was something alluding to that, which
I was like, wait a minute. And then the guy
was like, I knew Luke's grandfather.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
So there. So they're crystallizing this idea that Luke is
doing it for the right reasons, which is why yes,
which is why he got it, which is why he
got the vote.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah, and then he is most worthy and because of
Lauraai and that he you know, like the whole thing.
He's finally with Lorelai and this is what he should
be doing, and he should get the house because he's.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know, in a town. It's good for every right,
they're going to have children. That's good for the town.
It's it creates more tax revenue for the town. He's
creating more taxpayers and it's just good for the town.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
The line he said was Luke says, who are you
guys anyway? What gives you authority to make town decisions?

Speaker 8 (05:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
That's weird. Maybe he's just being sarcastic.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yeah, maybe it was just the line that threw me off.
I'm like, haven't we I mean, I thought we've seen
these guys before, So okay.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
We then see her eating the apple she thinks she's pregnant.
I did sort of think it was a funny callback
to the opening when she says, I don't have a
hankering for fruit, which makes sense because they didn't want
to dip the fruit and the chocolate, only the marshmallows.
I thought the exchange.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Although we all know, like after two days after having sex,
you don't just randomly get crazy exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
It takes.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
It takes at least a few week days.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
It was like it was like eighteen hours.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Yeah, I'm not gonna be eating an apple the morning after, Like,
come on.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Do you even think you're pregnant? Should we talk about
that yet? Are you ready to talk about the sex talk? Danielle,
didn't you have thoughts about her thinking she's pregnant. Are
you there yet?

Speaker 8 (06:12):
No?

Speaker 6 (06:12):
I covered it because my whole thing was this is
going to be this is going to be some kind
of dividing.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh, I thought you wanted to talk about her inability
to have safe sex and how like? So what like
I was like.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Oh, no, I'll pass on that. Oh I was ready
to go there.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
I'm like no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
I was more about like, clearly the two of them
are on different pages. That's where I was going.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I was ready to be like, so do you are
we talking about condom talk? Are we talking about birth
control pill? What am I talking about?

Speaker 7 (06:45):
I think it's one of that Laura.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
I eats everything, so the only thing that would be
an odd craving is something healthy.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
First of all. Also, back on the safe sex, she
it's not like she doesn't sleep with the boyfriends. Like
she slept with Jason, she slept with Max, She's had
a few flings with Christopher. What kind of birth control
is she using that? Suddenly it didn't do you know
what I'm saying. Nobody nobody thinks that.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Sorry, I mean she was looking. She was looking at
the floor, so I'm assuming she was looking for it.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
She doesn't remember, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I thought she was just looking at the floor, like, oh,
all the clothes are everywhere.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
No. I think she was like looking around. She's like
clearly close her off and I don't see any sort
of protection. So she's not on the pill, because the
pill she would have been like, great, I'm on the.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Pill, right, that wouldn't have been a problem.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
So I think it was probably there was no condom
or something. H just my thought.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Anyone else with thoughts, I could just feels like a
little TMI, but I kind of want to go, what's
going on why?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
I just thought she was anticipating the article coming out. Mother,
tell closely. I follow things. My opinions may very depending

(08:12):
on my state of consciousness.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Look, I will admit I was very befuddled at the
time too.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I was like, I did I thought, oh, you know,
when's this? She was going to drop here with the
article also, which I found to be incredibly unsatisfying.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So I have a few flags. So first of all,
then she's on the phone, and right now we only
have the tal.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Talking about it. I'm out of flags. I need to
borrow some flags.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Ballerina, she got her Ballerina delivered. Who likes the magic
eight ball, and she was so excited that Lorelai said
the ballerina could have it. Okay.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I thought lorlay was going to use the apall to
see if she was pregnant or not.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Okay, So then I thought this was so random. Did
you guys notice that lare lies back at the hospital
and she's sitting in the chair, I assume, sort of
waiting to see what's happening with Suki, and a guy
sits back to with just a giant plant with flowers
in it.

Speaker 8 (09:12):
Today.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
I was like, what is that? Nobody noticed that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I was like, no, yeah, he was a regular extra.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I was just like, that's like an extra. That's just
can you imagine being the extra? And they're like, here,
take this twenty pound pot filled with flowers and sit
there and try to be inconspicuous. Okay. Well anyway, so
then Rory's in the dining hall and they're talking that
Laura could be pregnant, which was just way too much
TMI for a mom to be telling a twenty year

(09:44):
old kid.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
I was like, oh god, yeah, I feel like she
would confide in Suki, but Suki was obviously yeah, well yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
She's just like I just ate an apple and all
roadblocks were down, and it was just I was like,
oh my god, nobody wants to have that talk with
her mom.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
She even said, you know, when these guys shoot, they
score something.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
And then using it as an example for Rory, like,
I just want to make sure you're protecting.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I think if she just said that, like make sure
you're you're staying safe, I think that would have been fine.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, but not not the details, and.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
It was just way too much. And then she's like
totally fine and laugh.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
On the short they shoot and they score.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It all made me laughing.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
You you got to assume when they shoot they score, right, so.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Not notice that they just kept wheeling women around in
a wheelchair. Just they kept having like extras way on camera,
kind of getting wheeled around. It happened twice. I was like, okay,
to just to prove that the ladies.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Feels like she's seeing so many pregnant ladies around her.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
True, Oh yeah, it'd be kind of like in your face. Okay.
So then we go to the conference.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Delivering the.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Delivering the big plastic baby, speaking of that was such
a fake baby. But we'll get to that. We'll also
get to the vasectomy thing, which is a total.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's my god, I ran out of flags. I'm like,
that's when I was like, whoa, okay.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Right, nobody gets a surprise visecto me for many reasons.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
One is and then gets to break go ahead, no
you go, no you go.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
You still don't get to decide for your husband that
they're getting a vasectomy. Like, no one's making a medical
appointment for someone else. Even if you're married number one,
number two, you're not getting like a same day vasectomy.
You're not like, I just birthed the baby and I
made a viseectmy appointment for you downstairs, so go down.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
What what a what a wonderful moment that he got
to share with his new baby. Now he's gonna go
get whacked, you know, And.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
There's got to be prep I also believe you have
to in some way prepare for a vasectomy. You can't
just spring it on you fifteen minutes before, right, Like
I'm assuming you can't eat or drink before.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
At least that there's comedy, and then there's like weird,
that was weird.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
That was weird, right?

Speaker 8 (12:19):
That was like a.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Sketch comedy routine. You know that wasn't like, you know,
millions of invested fans watching their beloved characters, and then
Suki says, you know, you know, go cut the tube
or whatever there is to cut, you know, go cut it.
It's like, whoa right.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Look, this says, no aspirin for seven to ten days
prior to your vasectomy. You don't know that Jackson hasn't
taken an aspirin. No anti inflammatory products for seven days,
including ibuprofen. You can only take tail and all. Then
you have to. This is what it says. How do
I prepare my husband for a vasectomy? Schedule the date,

(12:59):
decide together. These are the first two things. Stock up
on essentials. I don't know what that is, make them
a care package. Be sympathetic. She's not doing any of
these things. No, wow, are you supposed to eat before
a vasectomy? You must not eat anything from six hours
before the operation? Like that? Like that made no sense.

(13:22):
You may only take SIPs of water until two hours before.
It doesn't come on. That doesn't It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
It was It was maybe the most awkward Gilmore moment I've.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Ever witnessed, because it was such hullable.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's like I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, like the show is fairly realistic, which I say
laughing that I'm even saying it, but like, no one's
going for downstairs for their that mi sectomy.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Under no circumstances. Is any husband going to agree to that, or.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
A doctor or the doctor that was my thing? Is like,
not only no doctors agreed.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
To that, it was a They're going to deduct some
points for that one.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, that was a comedy stretch. Okay, So we've got
Mitchell and Rory in the conference room. We find out
Suki's had a girl, and we find out Loreales not pregnant.
We're getting a lot all at once. And then we
also find out like she never told Luke either way, right,

(14:31):
like she never told him that she thought she was pregnant.
She pregnant. We're having some secrets again, which are not great.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I guess they're not that close. Mm hmm. I guess
it's just like Burger Boy, just show up at eight
and let's acadoodle and then going back to the dinner.
It seems like a very convenient relationship for this time
in her life, and she's enjoying it, which I suppose

(15:01):
she feels she's entitled to That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, I mean, look I laughed at when you say that,
but like, right, she should be the first person she called,
or she should have woke him up that morning and
been like, oh my god, we just had wild sex.
What if I'm pregnant? Like I just you're right, she's
not treating him like he's her one and older.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
The men aren't getting treated with a great deal of
respect in this episode, aren't they. Jackson gets whacked. I get,
you know, the wool pulled over my eyes about my
potential fatherhood.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
So okay. So then we go back to the Gilmours
and now we've switched out the ballerina for Michale, which
we all kind of talked about just didn't work whatever,
and she's got the weird bag with her that she's
clutching with the magazine in it. Sough.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I feel like, just I saw a great setup for
this article thing with absolutely no payoff. Yeah, yeah, no
payoff whatsoever. Through the door, Emily kind of like calmed
down and whatever. I mean, the things that can you
imagine your child saying these things about you in print?

(16:22):
It's one thing to say it behind your back or
even to you in private, a person to person, but
to do it in print and that everybody's going to read, well, it's.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Like the cardinal rule, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Do you think that after everything, after everything, like Emily did,
Like she's kind of just like excusing it. She's like,
I already hurt my daughter enough, like I kind of
deserved it.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I mean, that's probably how they're justifying it.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Yeah, but I.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Mean, I mean, as a as as a fan of
the show, I wanted to see we wanted to see fireworks. Yeah,
I mean I think it was one of these situations
where less was less, hmm, I think more.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I have sort of a similar flag on Mitcham and Rory.
So Mitcham, you know, says, oh, I haven't really had
time to talk to you about how you're doing, and
then he sort of says, you don't got it. And
what I didn't love was her response. I didn't love
her saying I've done everything that was asked of me,

(17:33):
because that right in there is the problem.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
She should have said like, Okay, thank you so much,
like for your opinion, I respectfully disagree and I'm about
to go crush journalism, you know, or she could have
had a conversation with him, but I just wasn't crazy
about I've done everything that's asked to me. Right, you
were a great assistant, Rory, and yeah, this is your

(17:56):
first job. That's all you need to be right now.
But it's just like, I don't know, I don't know
what you guys thought of that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I just think he's the type of boss that, you know,
knows how to motivate people, and he gets rid of
the whimps because he knows they're not going to be
an asset to the company. And if she's got the
right stuff, she'll rise up and prove him wrong. And
that's what it takes. And you know, look that business world,

(18:26):
that's that's that's rough and tumble, man, that's not you know,
you know, you grow up in the suburbs, protected you
don't realize what the real world is like. Right, They're
getting into the belly of the base and it's like,
you know, you get your ass kicked.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
It's up to Rory now to prove him wrong.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, Yeah, yeah, right, And I mean I could
make that I don't. I won't give a spoiler, I promise,
but we will come back to this moment as we
talk about as we get into the finale and talk
about season six, because I think way too much happens
as a result of this moment that I don't It's

(19:07):
like sliding doors, Like I just think this moment could
have gone a whole different way for Rory's season six trajectory.
And it's like, yeah, I don't know. I have a
bone to pick with this moment being what drives her
to do what comes next. So I say that now
I'm not giving a spoiler, but I do want to

(19:28):
continue the conversation as we talk about season six because
to me, the Rory I know would have been like, Okay, thanks,
screw you, mitcham bye and go be the editor of
the paper. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, I mean, if she's going to end up in
a high position at the Yale Daily News, she's going
to do well in the field.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
She's at Yale, right, Like she goes to Yale. She's
not at like right she said Yale. She did so
well at Children, She's probably the top one percent of
the entire student body that exists, and now she's at Yale.
You don't just like suddenly take what this fool says,

(20:15):
and you suddenly like I won't say it. I won't
say it because it's a spoiler. But what happens just
doesn't track.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
I mean, let's not forget. Like at Yale, Doyle was like, yeah,
your ideas suck. Remember when she first came over, he
was like, all these ideas are boring? Remember that anybody?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yes, But she didn't go cry about it.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
She correct Yeah, she got better.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Ideas and got better and that's the whole point.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, But I think I think Mitcham shattered her entire world,
this future that she constructed maybe inside her head, with
Logan and the family and the great job and all
of this.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's like, you know, okay, so this is your doing.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
My son, and you want this cushy life. You're not
cut out to be a journalist because you're going to
be on the road all the time in some horrible places,
digging for dirt with dangerous people if you really want
to be an impactful journalist. Right, So that's not the
life you want, and that's not the life I want
from my son. So maybe Tara, you have a very

(21:19):
salient point there. I also think you made it earlier
about Mitcham not wanting Rory.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Right, No, I think she was right. I think there
is a truth there. My thing is like, also, she's
in college, right, she's a sophomore in college. When I
was a sophomore in college, I had my first job
at a TV station, and I literally had to be
taught how to address an envelope properly. Like, yes, these
were the days before computers, which I get it, I'm
one hundred, but we had to write on an envelope

(21:48):
and I would like put it a little bit too
far to the right or the left right. So the
person that I worked for was like, hey, this is
where you have to address an envelope. And that's like
the kind of crap Rory's doing. She's just sort of
the like admin, right, And that's what your first job is.
Everybody has to do that. You have to learn to
address endlup. I had to learn how to like deliver
memos around the TV station. Like we didn't have email then,

(22:11):
so like if somebody wanted to, like if programming wanted
to send a memo to you know, the newsroom, somebody
had to write it, put it in this weird envelope,
and then my job was to carry it from the
one floor down to the newsroom, Like that looks exactly
like what Rory's doing. So my thing's like, you can't
really know whether you're going to be a journalist or
not because she's just an admin. So he's basically saying,

(22:34):
you don't got it. Oh okay, I don't got it
to be an admin. Okay, Like it's just so dumb.
It's just like, to me, Rory should have just been
way more less weepy and like stealing yachts and way
more baller about it. And I think that's like one
of my beefs.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
But she's not. She wasn't. She's not like that, you know,
she's uh, he might be right, he might be right.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well that's the whole thing, Tara, can you not.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
That's why I'm being quiet, because I'm just going to
keep my mouth just.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
We want so badly to even I want to talk
about the movies right now, because there's so many things
i'll I'll say for you guys and for anyone listening
that has seen this a million times like us. This
is a very pivotal moment in sort of what I
think is Rory's trajectory. And I'm like, is this the

(23:31):
thing where the moment where everything went awry, I think,
but also but also then I don't think so, because
like the movies, I just have such problems with the movies.
But we'll worry about that later.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
So, okay, like you either are a person. You either
are a go getter who makes it happen for yourself,
or you're a person that sits back and follows the rules. Okay,
And people to sit back and follow the rules can
ultimately do very well in a bureaucracy, and they can
ultimately do very well over time just by keeping their
mouths shut if there are a certain kind of business.

(24:03):
But the go getters, they get ahead. Okay, he's just
telling her she's not a go getter, because people that
become really successful have very interesting stories with that when
they were just starting out. Well, I was just answering
phones for the big agent over at CIA, But when
he went on vacation, I jumped on his desk and

(24:24):
started making deals. I risked everything. But then when he
came back he was about to fire me, but he
got a phone call from the studio and said, can
you put her on? We love her. That's what makes
a career. You just do it. Don't ask for permission,
you do it.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I think there is some truth then to what Mitcham's saying, Oh,
you don't got it, because when she takes that and
gets so butt hurt by it, you're right, you don't
got it, Because what you if you got it? When
someone tells you you don't got it, you come on stronger.
You don't say, oh, I did everything you asked me
to do you go like, okay, well you'll see Mitcham,

(25:04):
and then you go over like I said, to the
stars Hollow, you know, or the the Boston Gazette. I
don't know. I'm making up paper names the Boston Tribune,
and you crush it there like you just so right.
Mitcham is sort of right. Even do a.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Profile on the Huntsburger family and and I have it
from a very very good inside source that they were
treated horribly at a dinner.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Emily gets the article right, and Lorelai runs into the
office and locks the door, and Laura says, are you
in there now? What if I missed that? The Mike,
the ballerina guy is all mad about.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
It was a comment?

Speaker 6 (25:51):
Yeah, So he thought Emily was like somehow associated with stalling.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Just okay, that that was just.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Because even I'm watching it and then now I'm like
looking at my notes, going like I didn't even get
any of that.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
It was a really random I'm also like, how did
Emily not like make her pay for that?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right?

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Right?

Speaker 6 (26:15):
She just kind of let her go. In my opinion,
is she what she gets?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
She's like playing monopoly and you got to get out
of jail free card. Where did she get to get
out of jail free card?

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well, that's what I was saying, yell earlier, like it
because it went away.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
It was it just Emily.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Thinking like I've already done so much, said so much
crap about Larel and her relationship that I'm just gonna
let this slide.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
But not in print.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
No, that's so not.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, she just her own daughter destroyed her mother's reputation
in publication for all her friends to read in print.
And it's not something you can apologize for. That's like
a relationship and done right.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
She lose her mind, she was her mind.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
It felt like it would be her only move to
save face. I've disowned my daughter.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
There you go, Well, Richard, because Richard wasn't in this episode.
So it just kind of felt like they needed to
give Emily something. It was it was kind of weird
on her part.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
I needed Emily to say, you get yourself out of
this room and you get out of my house, like
I needed that, and I was just like wait, pause,
like I literally like re press rewind because I'm like
I missed something, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you
literally just let her go.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I was supposed to be the mother, no pun intended
of all fights between mother and daughter. Right, if anything
was set up to be like you know, Ali Frasier one,
this was it, right.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Especially because it was from a few episodes ago, so
it was like a build up. It wasn't like I
just found.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Out cocking around with some Russian ballet dancer and him
getting offended.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
I mean to do it too.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Much for giveness, for right, it's.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Like get to the stick to the point you know.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
What happened to you and me?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
We're done right. So we wanted blood. We didn't get anything.
We got bad jokes. We wanted blood. Well it's coming
so okay now because we dislike Laurel I are. We
just wanted to see the drama. It was like, give
us some drama for God's sake, because you know both

(28:27):
of them can deliver right.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Totally right, we could have had some epic steup epic.
So okay, well that still goes on because that does
sort of play a part in the very end. But uh,
we get to the marina I guess you'd call it
where the yacht is, and I'm a little frankly tired

(28:51):
of like Rory being mad thinking Logan's flirting. It's like
that was sort of like because he's like, oh, you
mean my sister's friend and her husband that just had
a baby. Like it's like, okay, Rory, knock it off,
like this guy's committed to you, like he's just talking
to somebody at engagement party. So that was sort of
me being irritated. But I don't know if I'm just

(29:11):
bringing my irritation with Rory right now into it. Then
they sort of have the conversation.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Because she didn't get the blood.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Well and she doesn't even tell him what happened, which
also is so bothersome to me because it's like, oh,
this three's company episode, do you know what I mean?
I get so irritated by that.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Like it's also tell him his dad, Like, if my
boyfriend like his dad, I would be the first phone call.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Like, so it's not like it's his dad he loves
and worships and things, is the greatest father in the planet.
It's like he hates this guy and knows this guy's
a D word, and then she doesn't even tell him.
It's just so annoying.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
He was kind of happy she didn't tell him.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I think she suspected Logan sabotage.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
No, no, I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
There's too many things, a little preposterous, too many things
in this episode of people not telling people like Luke,
why are you not why are you buying a million
dollar house? And not telling Laura Like LAURAAI, why do
you think you're pregnant? And then you're not telling Luke
Rory Mitcham just rips you and you're all weepy about it.
Tell Logan, like, I just think I just thought that

(30:27):
she tells.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Her husband to go get his balls cut off. I mean,
what's going on?

Speaker 6 (30:33):
I think with Rory and Logan, she just spent the
whole previous epistrade gushing over him, trying to get, you know,
all the info on Mitcham that she's probably embarrassed. Like
I was, like, I'm happy she didn't say anything warned her.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I know y'all are gonna hate this, but like the
person who I'm not irritated by in this episode is Logan.
He didn't do anything wrong. He's just like, yeah, Ace,
that's my sister's friend and her husband who just had
a baby. Yeah, it's like just being freaking cool, and
she's just.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Didn't he also maybe maybe I'm mixing things up. Didn't
he also say like what did my dad say?

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Or what did my dad do?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Or yeah something? I think so.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
And I'm actually on your side Amy for this because
like he actually was like he knows something's up. He's
gonna wait for her to say something. He's not gonna
force it out of her, but like he knows, like
he's just doing what he's doing, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Right, He's just being Logan. And then really they're gonna
steal a boat? Come on, like actually, come on, Like
there's plenty of things that they actually would go do.
They'd bail the party, they'd go to the four Seasons,
order everything on the rooms, have a.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Wild night, And I think that's I think that's a
little more common clubs than.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Gilmore is not stealing a boat. That's like a freaking.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Fellow to do it him to do it.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
No, but like there's it's been so many times of
logan and boats, like we've heard this one too many times,
so like what's that only made her be like, well,
I want to steal a boat too?

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Like is it a proved to Mitcham? Like she's on
logans Like I don't Logan's level.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Maybe it's just like their neighbors, the Huntsburger's neighbors have
a couple of yachts there and just take borrow one
of them. It's not stealing, just take it out, you know.
Can you just get a boat?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, so go rent a boat, I don't know, or
take their boat.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Are you going to rent a boat?

Speaker 3 (32:32):
First of all, please, Rory Gilmore, like come on, stealing
a boat that really is just bananas and like to
do what to be a badass? Like literally when Mitcham's like,
you don't got it? Stealing a boat doesn't make you
got it. It just makes you have.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
A criminals who are they quoting Hemingway When you want
to punch somebody, go to see is it not Melville?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Is not Melville, hence the title.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Sorry, the whales and shotguns and I don't know what.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
We also can't forget. She ditched Friday night dinner too
because she was supposed to go, So she dinner, she
went to the engagement party and tried to steal a boat.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Some thing she never even told.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
She didn't tell Emily or Lorelai or anyone she wasn't
coming or like trying to get out of it.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Stupid.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, raumatic flipfhanger. I freaking love the end.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
I really wanted to go to the next episode. It
was so high, you know what.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
The only I think the only solve for this is
to have a ski race. Let's do that, Fry's the
only way we're gonna get over it.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
I mean, also, I'm reading the I'm reading the script
and Logan didn't say anything about his dad, but he
did in the episode earlier.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Is my dad treating you well? But okay, that's where
Thoughty was.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
But not right before she went to go steal the yacht, right,
got it.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
That's a fair mistake.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
It was somewhere I.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Couldn't get past the the best ectomy scene I I
put an extra I'll tell you what. I went upstairs
and put on an extra pair of pants and then
continue to watch the episode, and I covered myself up
the rest of the time. Tell you that much, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I mean, look, I guess we're ready to rate the episode.
What does everybody give it?

Speaker 8 (34:28):
Tara?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
You want to you want to start us off here,
be brave and jump out there and set the standard.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
I will give it seven point eight yachts.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
A very low score, though very low score.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
That is low for part of these You have integrity?

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Why did I like the episode? Am I the only
one like? I actually liked it?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I did? Actually, I actually did too. I thought it
was really.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, it was super entertaining. I'm going to say nine
out of ten pieces of toast at a dollar ten.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
At the loop price.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I'm going to give it eight of Kirk's two
hundred and forty seven thousand dollars bank accounts.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Huh okay, yeah, uh, I'm going to give it.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Uh God.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I I really enjoyed the episode, though, however many inconsistencies
there were and fears of being snipped. I still enjoyed
the pack out of it. Oh and isn't that a
testament to the wonderful show that is Gilmore Gosh, I

(36:00):
really want to stay in the nines, but I just can't. Yeah,
I understand, Danielle. I'm sorry. I want to be hanging
with you.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
I think this is the first time I've ever ranked
an episode higher than anybody else.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
But listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna be right there with
you with an eight point nine eight point eight nine
five eight point eight nine five. Uh functional my kids?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Oh, I thought I knew you were gonna it was
gonna have to do with asector.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
No, I was going to say eight point eight nine
five testicles. Since it's an X rated episode, is you
can say that it's an X rated episode? Uh No,
I'll give it eight point eight nine five surgical snipping scissors.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Whoa specific I will say, I feel like, as we
broke down the episode, things bothered me more.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, I agree. I was like kind of okay with it.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, can't we just enjoy it without reckoning it for
everybody with all this analysis, But I.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Will say, like, yeah, it annoyed this episode thoroughly annoyed me,
but it thoroughly entertained like it wasn't boring.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, it wasn't boring. It was it moved along, it
was funny. I think it was a really strong episode
for for Lauren. I thought she was just carrying it
along with some really funny stuff, you know, funny delivery.
This really featured her comedy skills, So I think for
me that's what kept it, you know, above above water

(37:41):
for the most part, even in the in the in
the sort of challenging parts for us logically speaking. So anyway,
what else do we have favorite lines? Let's do favorite
lines time.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Sorry, go ahead, jump on it. I just got excited
because I do have one when they when it's about
fruit and she says, don't have a hankering for it.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
M hmmm hmm.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
I actually have a favorite too. It's from Emily and
she says, I did not get into quote bitch fight
with him. He's an ex president. It was that usable rosalind.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
Tera.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
I mean, I always have to go with a Kirk line.
I just think the whole back and forth about the
toast was truly my favorite part of the episode. I
don't have a specific favorite line.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to pass on favorite
lines there were just too many of them. I'll post
on my Instagram what my favorite line is.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
Oh that's wait, oh wait, I do have you?

Speaker 5 (38:55):
I have one when he says I take my toast
dry m hm, because he asked if there's a discount
on butter and jamm hmmm mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, that was a real Nie slapper. All right, So
what do we got?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
We got next episode finale? What's the Scott? It's like
it's so upsetting.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's it's just flying by. All right, So what do
we what do we have for the the next episode?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
What is Yeah? What's it called? Oh? Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Called next episode, Episode twenty two, the finale, the wrap
up of season five. House. It is not a home.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
I don't like it. I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
It doesn't it does. It's it's foreboding, isn't it. It's
it really is. The house is not And I think
that sounds like a line from Laurel. I. Yeah, is
that what Laurel I says to Luke. Listen, I didn't
tell you to do this A house is It's just
a house, Luke, It's not.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
Actually, don't think it's not going to be what you think?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Okay, never is anyway. Thank you ladies, Thank you Tarah,
thank you Danielle, thank you Amy. Always a pleasure, always
a gas, a classical gas. Keep those cards and letters coming,
Thanks for all your comments, keep downloading, best fans on
the planet, and remember we and I am all in

(40:33):
stay safe.

Speaker 8 (40:34):
Everyone, Hey, everybody to forget.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast
and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.
Advertise With Us

Hosts And Creators

Amy Sugarman

Amy Sugarman

Danielle Romo

Danielle Romo

Scott Patterson

Scott Patterson

Tara Soudbaksh

Tara Soudbaksh

Popular Podcasts

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Therapy Gecko

Therapy Gecko

An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.