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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow, I embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hi everyone, Welcome back to I Am Paris. My guest
today is a multiple award winning, multi talented singer and
songwriter who has generated tens of billions of streams and
has achieved over two hundred and fifty million global single
sales with dozens of multi platinum and platinum certifications. He's
also a good friend of mine. Please welcome Jason Derulel. Y'all,
(00:33):
So today we're going to be talking about the past.
So let's go down memory lane and talk about major
moments in your past that made you the icon that
you are today. Hmm.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
So I call these like I pinch yourself moments, and
these moments are moments where I feel like my life
kind of took a massive turn. One being when I
got signed j Rhodam was, you know, this big producer.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
And he I know, I did my first album with him.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's right, he did do Yeah, I love him. Well,
what year was that, I like two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Around that time, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
So he flew me out to Los Angeles. I was
eighteen at the time. I was two thousand and eight
and I had to move my whole life to Los Angeles.
He gave me forty thousand dollars and I had to
figure out what I was gonna do with this forty
thousand dollars. I had to move my life to Los Angeles.
So I take the first twenty obviously buy a car.
(01:44):
Worst idea of all time. I took half of my
money and I bought this, uh this car. It was
an SC four thirty Lexus convertible. I was moving to
Los Angeles. Palm trees, great weather. As soon as I
get to Los Angeles, weather sucks. There's no sun, it's
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just cold as hell all the time. I actually had
to get a place to live. So it was me
and my cousin moving down. My cousin, Henry, and I
find this place on Sunset and Vine. It's a beautiful,
beautiful condominium and way too expensive for me.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And my mom was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You only have twenty five thousand dollars left, Like, how
are you going to afford this? It was like five
six thousand dollars at a time, and I was like, Mom,
I know I can't afford it. She was like, so
what are you doing? I was like, that's the reason
why I got it, because I can't afford it, and
she's like, what are you talking about. I was like,
if I can't afford it, then I had to figure
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out a way to afford it.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And I'm going to do that now.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I wouldn't recommend anybody to do this because I think
that was the dumbest shit that I've ever done. But honestly,
I made it happen, you know, And that was like
the one of the big turning points in my life.
When I got here to Los Angeles, I created a
routine for myself and then I, you know, made all
of these songs. And what You Say was a song
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that I actually worked on for Sean Kingston as well
as a song called Replay, which ended up going to
another artist, but Seaun Kingston turned down What You Say
and we were kind of like, damn, well, this could
probably be my first single. So two thousand and nine,
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that's when my life changed. Released that song came the
number one song in the world. Another moment like that
was when I broke my neck in twenty and thirteen.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I believe it was and so scary. It's crazy, how
did that happen?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So I was I was getting ready for my world tour,
and I was working with this trainer and he was like,
today we're gonna work on endurance, so I need you
to do.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
These back tucks back to back to back.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
He had me doing like fifty back tucks back to back,
which is another one of the worst ideas somebody's ever had.
So I slipped during one of the back tucks and
I landed on my head, breaking my c two vertebrae.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And I went from having all the reins in my
life and being in control of my life too, not
having any kind of control at all, not being able
to tie my shoes, not being able to take a
shower of myself. And that was the first time in
my life where I felt like I just had no
control again. I created a routine for myself where I
woke up in the morning, I went to the gym
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and walked. I walked for about forty five minutes today.
And then I spent hours and hours within the studio,
but same time, same places, every single day. And that's
when I wrote my most successful album, I Talked Dirty album,
which I had talked the other side Marry Me Wiggle
like all kinds of hits off that album and it's
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because I created a routine. So it's like a common
thing in my life when I'm able to like really
follow a routine. Amazing things happened.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
How long were you recovering?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Seven months?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Seven months?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I love that album, but thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, it was a wild, wild time of my life
for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
For sure in that moment that it happened. Did you
just what were you thinking? Like everything?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, as soon as it happen, I heard a big
crack and I was just like, holy shit, like.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Is this it? Like is this how it all ends?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And all the thoughts that you could imagine are going
through my head at the time, And.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I remember thinking.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
To myself, oh shit, my mom is in the car
waiting for me outside, and I didn't not I did
not want to scare her. I didn't want to alarm her.
So after five minutes of laying on the ground, I
got myself together and walked to the car like holding
my neck just like this. And then I'm like, Mom,
(06:13):
I think I hurt myself a little bit in the car,
like like we're that kind of.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Like bright voice.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I think I heard my I think I hurt myself
a little bit inside we should probably.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Go to the hospital just to check it out.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Now, every single bump feels like hell on earth, Like
I'm just dying in that passenger seat, but I don't
want to let her know that. Get to the hospital
and the you know, they take all these X rays
and whatnot, and then the doctor was like, well, I
have some good news and some bad news. The good
news is that you have a hangman's break, which is
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the same break that you know happens when you get
hung and you're still alive. You know, like this could
have ended up way crazier, you know, paralyzed or worse.
And he said, that's the good news. You're still here
with us and you can move all your limbs. The
bad news is you're going to be out for seven months.
So I had this tour set up. It was the
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biggest tour of my life at that point, and instantly heartbroken.
I had to let all these people down. You know,
I know how how much this means to people. People
save their money, you know, their hard earned money, and
they want to be a part of this experience, and
all of a sudden, all of that shit was down
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the drain.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
I can't imagine how scary that would have been.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, crazy, you wrote your first song when you're eight
years old. Can you remember the very first song that
you wrote and what was it about?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So I wrote my song crush on You when I
was eight, and I wrote it because it was this girl,
Amy that sat right in front of me, and Amy
Amy had my heart, you know, Amy, Amy was the one,
and I didn't have any money, I didn't have anything
to give her. So I was like, let me write
a song for and you know, maybe she'll give me
(08:09):
the time of day and go in, you know, to
the intoto my lab so to speak, was the kitchen,
and I start writing this song down and uh get
really excited.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
The next day I have this song written down for
it and go to like sing it for and I
was like, ah, I tried to getting the marrow out.
I'm two nervous, two nervous, go again.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
The next day. Didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Never sing it a damn song, But it ended up
being the beginning of my journey of songwriting.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Did she ever know that you wrote it about her?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No, Amy, if you're out there, maybe you would the
one you would the one that got away. When I
was eight, you know everybody got a soul made. That
would be a damn shame if Amy was the one
Dann God you wanted me to meet.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
At Maybe she's listening to this.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
With nine kids.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
With songwriting, do you start with lyrics or melody or
a concept when you're writing?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I do like a.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Freestyle, So I start with a concept. So I think
of a concept. I got a bunch of concepts written
in my phone already, so when I'm on the elevator
or something, I think of a concept, or wherever I am,
I think of concepts.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I drop them down to my phone. So I'll start
with a concept and.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Then I'll freestyle on the mic with that concept in mind,
and I'll do like twelve different takes, and then I'll
choose like the best verse, I'll choose the best pre hook.
I'll choose the best hook, and then I go back
and I decode everything.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
What's one of your favorite songs you've ever written?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think take You Dance, and it is one of
my favorite songs that I've ever done, as well as.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Want to Want Me.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I love that song.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's one of my favorite thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So I have so many sick remixes of it as well.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
For really people love it. Come on, shit shit a weal, yeah,
I'll send it to you.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
El their sick. I love them.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Over the years, you've collaborated with many incredible artists Snoop Dogg,
Nicki Minaj, Jamie Levada, Mike Bouplay, Lil Wayne, our dear
friend Megan Trainer. What do you enjoy most about collaborations?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You know, I like, I like having different energy in
the room.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
You know, I kind of put it in the same
category as playing sports, you know, with people that you
like or admire. You know, it's like it's like having
a good time with somebody else that you respect. They
bring a different energy, and to be honest, it's just
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So even in the songwriting process, I like, I like
collaborating with people.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I like, I like collaborating people that don't.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Necessarily have a lot of act kalaides, people that are learning.
I like all kinds of collaborations, So I really mix
it up. So from artists to different producers to different songwriters.
The collaboration process is really fun to me, and the
creation process is really special to me. So you know,
it's kind of like sometimes like it gets as deep
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as like I'll invite my brother and like, yo.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Let's let's just have some fun.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, because it really is a thing that I really
enjoy doing, you know what I'm saying. So like when
somebody else would invite their family members to come and
have a drink, I might invite my family members to
come have a drink in the studio and it's just vibe.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But I know how to.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Take the rains, so to speak, and still make an
amazing song with all the different ideas in the room,
because you'll be surprised, like some people will have some
like really really interesting ideas, especially coming from a consumer's perspective,
because a lot of times creatives can get in their
head a little too much and shit becomes just way
too creative and it just loses the consumer. So I
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like to have regular energy sometimes out.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, yeah, who is one of your favorite people?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
You ever worked with?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Different people for different reasons, So I think Snoop. Yeah,
just just like a just the coolest motherfucker you ever met,
just really down to earth, very very chill, very fun,
you know, person that's just constantly telling jokes and just
you know, really down to earth. So I like Snoop
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from that perspective, I think Nicki from a different perspective.
I think she's just really a hard worker. She has
gotten everything in her life because she's the hardest worker.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
In the room, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And sometimes you'll do a collaboration with somebody and they
don't know what to do after the collaboration, they don't
know how to push the song for their next And
Nikki is somebody that has just gonna roll up her
sleeves and like joined.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
The fight with you, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
As opposed to it just being my song, it became
our song, you know what I'm saying the same thing
with With Michael Buble, I feel like he, uh, Spicy
Margarita is just like, you know, just totally was like, yo,
like let's go for Gusto.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
This is our song. Let's get it to everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And he just really rolled up his sleeves and and
and made it about uh, made it about us, made
it about the record.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And I also just have the best time in the world.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I think Michael probably became one of one of my
best friends from an artist perspective that that I've ever experienced.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, they're all so amazing, so talented. I love Snoopy's
so much fun, even for many years.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, and I mean Meghan. Meghan has become close to
me and also my family. My son goes to her
house three times a week for daycare, has like a
little thing going on, yeah, her house. So my family
is really close to her and I am as well.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I love her so much, it's the sweetest.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
She's so much fun. I can't wait for her LA show.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, for sure, she's hot killing it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Are there any artists that you haven't worked with yet
but you would love to collaborate with in the future.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
M You know, I look at collaborations like like an
extension of the creative right. So I think every song
is different, And sometimes I'll finish the song and I'll
be like, damn, I feel like it needs something, like
it's missing something. And a lot of times that's how
a collaboration will happen. So it's not necessarily that I
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have anybody in mind that I'm like, you know, gotta
do a collaboration with this person. I think every song
has its place for a different artists. Nice, Yeah, but
I think I definitely think we need to do something.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I love that. Let's do it for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So I want to wrap up with one final question.
You've had so many amazing career highlights. What is the
one thing that you're especially proud of.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I'd say the thing that I'm most proud of is
that I've been able to stand the test of time.
I think there's a lot of artists that come and
go no, and I think it will be the saddest
thing in the world to have get to live my
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dream and then all of a sudden it goes away.
So the fact that I get to go into the
studio and make new material that people will actually still
listen to, I think it's the greatest part of what
I accomplished. The fact that I was able to do
it for this amount of time, being in the industry
for fifteen years, that honestly, it doesn't even sound like
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it's a reality. Being in the industry for so long
and getting to do the thing that I love to
do most, I think is really really special. And when
I go out on tour, every show is bigger than
the last show. There's more people at every tour as
I get older, you know, and I think that's really
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really special. So I would I would say that the
longevity aspect. And I'm doing this Vegas residency now, which
is also another crazy thing because I've always dreamed about
having my own residency in Las Vegas and that being like,
you know, just my own space. The fact that I
get to go up there and put on a show,
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so it's really.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Special to me.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I can't wait to come see it.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, ya gotta come through.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, let's talk about that on the next episode. We're
going to catch up what's happening now, So stay tuned
for the next episode of I in Paris.
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