EP 1,063 - Jamie Kennedy (Actor/Podcaster) on Playing In NBA Entertainment League with Michael, Working on Bowfinger, Direction by David O. Russell - I AM RAPAPORT: STEREO PODCAST

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Guests, Have no fear.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast is here today. I
have excellent, excellent, fantastic episode with my friend, actor, writer,
comedian Jamie Kennedy, who you've seen in so many different
movies for so long, everything from Scream to Malibu's Most

(00:32):
Wanted to Three Kings to Bowfinger. He is a veteran,
he is an iconic, unique, good, funny, dope ass actor,
a podcaster or comedian. And this is a great sit
down interview with my man, Jamie Kennedy. So have no fear.

(00:53):
The I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast is here. Tell a
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Jamie Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Off with something real nice, started off with.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Something real loud, but most importantly, start this puppy off
with something real funky. I Am Rapport Stereo Podcast with
guest Jamie Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I Am Rapport Stereo Podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
My man from illadelf Philadelphi, The Illa, the Ihiladelphis, Jamie Kennedy, who.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Every now and then people think I was in Malibu's
Most Wanted. But the person that I get recognized and
mistaken for the most is I understand why although it's
so far out, is Woody Harrelson from White Man Kintum.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I don't know why. It's not what Hey Harrelson from
anything else.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Wow, It's just sometimes people go Malibu's Most Wanted to me, dude,
it's from the association from basketball, which I believe the
first time I met you, Jamie No, I just remember
the first time I met you.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
But you used to also correct me if I playing
the Celebrity Basketball League here.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Bro, this hurts me. We were on the same team.
We were on the same team.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
There's nothing memorable about my game or nothing memorable ball your.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Game, yo, Raja. Yes, so he used to run practices,
remember that. Yes, we used to do that, but we
were never It wasn't always.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
We were there sometimes and sometimes people were working.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
But yeah, we had a good season. The Celebrity All
Star Brian McKnight always would drain from the.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Heat, but he would drain from three.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But if you're shooting thirty five shots, yeah, you're gonna
catch fire at a certain point.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And Brian McKnight he could play, yeah, but he also
would He just didn't care about passing.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
He really didn't know what that was at all.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
And like I said, he would get hot.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
But if you're shooting thirty five shots, you might go
on like an eight shot streak, yeah, and then miss
seven and then get on another like seven shot streak.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
You were always go for about eight and twelve.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I would say, ain't twelve fouls?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Wait? But you know it's I got in.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I would come in second, third string, get a couple
of garbage grabs.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Maybe one, you know, put back. I was so much.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Fun, dude, the best, like legit and legit, like Pooky Poky.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Pooky was like the king of the league.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yes, and so we had legit ballers, yes, and then
we had actors. But who do you remember that could play?
Oh well, obviously Brian, but really you keep going to
Brian mcnack. I'm gonna give I'm gonna give you two.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Who taught me how to have a left was Mark Blucas.
He could plays, he was legit because he's fucking wake
Forest Tim.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
He played with Tim Duncan. He didn't count and uh,
Dean Kane. Dean Kane could play. He could play.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
He also told me how to do a little crossover.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know who could play before he started making a
lot of money and before he put on his weight
and I tell him to say his face. Kevin Hart
used to be like one of those quick really Kevin
Hart used to be able to play play. He would
like to be one of those quick really short. Wow.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
He he could play before he he was not in
our league.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
He was no, he was in it. He was in
and out. But I saw him, I was like, he
could play.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Because it was like you'd see people that had game,
but it would be like, oh, they used to be
able to play. Then you'd see people like no disrespect.
Will Ferrell, like you're out there with him, you don't
know what's going on because it's like.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
It's so funny.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Boratt would be out there sometimes you're like, I can't
take this. Toby Maguire plays like he's on fire, like
he literally like his body's on fire.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, you know, but it was just a hard defender Toby, right,
he's always swatting the ball.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, because he doesn't know if he's like yeah, but
that's it just still Timberlake had some game ish.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, he could hit a couple outsiders.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
But I think that's when we first met.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, that's when we first met. Like oh, it was
like the league started and it was amazing. They would
swag us up. We had all mb NBA e L
remember that NBA Entertainment League. So you had to be
an actor or a musician.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Which which you already know, like the competitiveness goes down here.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, everybody thought they were so good.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Because also they'd give us real uniforms.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
We all have dope sneakers on, like a Lakers jersey,
like it's the real jersey, the real weight.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
They're why they were taping our ankles before it. I
have no idea.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Don't stretch you, bro. We had but dude, we had practices.
We we had a practice in Wheel and you were
running a drill.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I don't think you remember, you're like all right, layups.
We were running drills.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
But why did somebody and Baron Davis shout out, who
like put up like thirty million for the gym or whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Why would they pay somebody to tape people ankles that
are not jumping six to no one jumping over foot
higher than the ground and the speed. You can't twist
snake when you're going at the speed of anybody in
this league, like you're.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Going at half a stead little bow. Wow, yeah bow.
He ran a lot. He ran a lot. Another one
didn't like to pass. He didn't love to pay.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Jamie Fox, who I'm so happy you're feeling good. Yes,
so happy you're feeling out. I remember Jamie Fox played
the morning of the Oscars before he won the Oscar
for Ray. We had a game and I was like,
why are you here? And number one and number two?
I was like, he didn't pass, And I was like,
if I got nominated for Best Actor, I'm not passing yeady. Yeah, yeah,

(06:42):
Like I'm just this is like it's a game, but
this is really just me getting up shots.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah. He literally played on the morning of Ray. Were
you there that day?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I wasn't, but I remember that that was crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
He played that Sunday morning before the Oscars and then
won the Oscar the same.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Night, legend and probably won the game.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
No, No, I'm so glad he's feeling good. But I
will tell Jamie to the day we all passed. He
has no game, but big stars, so he's in. He's
able to shoot. And when you're Oscar Nominee and the
oscars of that, you're gonna shoot as much as you want.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, you're gonna let him shoot. Let him fly. Who
was a sneaky guy? Who?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Who was good? Besides the people I named.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
It was always it was always the guys that you
wouldn't like. Wood Harris was good. Yes, Wood could play.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, Oh, Dean kan Blucas.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Those guys were good.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Uh, Homie the Steve Howie was nice. Yeah, how he
he and he talked a lot of ship. I think
Howie Howie was good. I think he played in college
or he could have. Yeah, he was big, but those
elbows hit the side of your head.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's big and he talks ship and he's young and
he could play. And he's another one like to shoot,
got in the zone and was nutty. But he was
on my team and like he would get it popping.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
He was the like to who's the dude from the
Thunder like with the goatee.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Like Steve Adams. Yeah, he was a Steve Adams type.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yes, but he could play flex Flex could play too.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
And Bill belliie, Nope, no.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
No, I tell Bill Bill's Bill. We came on clean, crazy,
athletic clean, cleaning up and down the floor, fastest shit.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Looked like he should be able to play. Couldn't play.
I tell him this also. I tell him this also,
Flex could play Bill Bellamie couldn't play, but look like
he could play.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Wow Flex past. But you had to make it. If
you didn't make it.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
The Queens would come out him. I think he's from
Queens anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Jamie Kennedy, we've been friends. You got your podcast. You
also when I started doing stand up about five years ago,
you were encouraging to start doing stand up for me,
like to get back into it. You've had a great career.
Do you feel like you've have a great career. Because
I'll be honest, I see you sometimes on social media.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I'm like, Yo, you've had a lot of fucking dope shit.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And also I'm like, I feel like sometimes I feel
like you, you know, the way you articulate yourself on social media.
I feel like sometimes I get the sense that I'm like,
you're not done. I hope you don't think, yeah, no,
you're done. Like I feel like you have a lot
to offer. I feel like we all have a lot
to offer, But sometimes I'm like, you've done a lot,
and there's thirty five forty more years knock on wood that.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
You could keep rocking.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
But do you like, how do you feel about your
career at this point in your life when you look
back at the amount of shit that you've done, Because
you've done a.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm blessed, you know what I mean, Like, I have
done a lot.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
And I think about that and I don't like, yeah,
I hope I do still have a lot of juice
in the you know, squeeze.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
A lot of in the tank.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
But it's like I'm trying, you know, we're out there
and we're right, and I think about some of the
shit I've done, like I've been in Three Kings, David o'
russell and Tony Scott, will Smith, you know, Enemy of
the State, you know, Bowfinger. I've been so blessed and
then I got to do my own stuff right, and
it's like the business is so different, it's so wild

(10:17):
right now, and I think there's a lot of underutilized
assets that a lot of us that have a lot
of good careers, you know what I mean, you were
one of them. You've done any more than me, Like,
I'm very happy with what I've done, but I'm also like, yo,
I could do a little more.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Of course, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
There's definitely times, I'm sure you feel like this, that
you feel like I'm not being utilizing. The one time
I was an audition and you weren't there.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
You were coming, but it was me.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
We're all reading for this Katherine Heigel movie and none
of us thought we should be reading it was the
hit I think it was when she was a hit woman.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Remember that movie.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
You were involved, Katherine Heigel, She's the girl.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
From Raised Anatomy and yes, knocked up, knocked up, Yes,
So it was I was reading for it. Lillard was
reading for it. J Moore reading for it, and you
were reading for it, right, And we'd all been in
like movies at all. Multiple made one hundred million, and
I was just like, that's when the business started hitting
me different to.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Articulate what that's like, whatever that movie was. And no
disrespect to Catherine Heigel, but if you don't get it,
you don't remember. I don't know which one of us
got it or didn't get.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
It another guy. None of us got.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
It, and and you go into it was nine am.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Five pages of fucking massive dialogue were like a cop,
no dumb call a cop, drug drug dealer, A fun
drug dealer, right, yeah, because we're gonna play the fun
drug yeah, fun little edge of times, but you know
we're gonna keep it funny.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
But I saw because I was going through some of
your clips and I follow.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
You on social media. Appreciate that at Jamie.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Kennedy, Yes, Jamie ken Jamie Kenyon on Instagram, Jamie khere.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Else one time, well for me, and I'll tell you
a moment. There was one time I was reading for
some movie in New York and I had looked at
the list of people that are coming because I've always
done that.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Who else is read? You know? And I remember it
was like it was to play a cop.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
This is this is like ten twelve years ago, just
to play a cop, a New York cop.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Okay is it's either.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Want me and but the list was like entry level me,
Kevin Corrigan, Dominic Lombard, I can never pronounce Anthame, but Dominic.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
And it was like a handful of as like just
pick one.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Why are you like, yo? This is soone? The director?
You have a problem.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
The director's a problem, like you don't know what you
want because all of us would be great?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Why are you making me? Like?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
And I got to the point I remember I first thought,
I was like, I want to ask this director do
some push ups when I come in, Like who the
fuck are you to make any of us come in
and read to play like it's like it's not like
it's a librarian in from London with a British accident,
who's like, you know all of.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Us, why are we reading for you?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
If you want to have coffee, meet us all separately
for coffee, like you should be so.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
To be graace with all of our presence, Like who
the fuck are you? But you?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
You talked about in Three Kings, which is an iconic, great.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Dope movie, David Russell.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's incredible you talked about the audition process with that.
I'll let you explain the audition process for David Russell
and how when you go to meet and or read
with a creative, smart director, the difference between doing what
I just articulated, but break down your David o' russell
Three Kings, David Russell, who's done with other films.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
He did his first breakout spanking the Monkey than he
did Silver Linings, Playbook Insane, which is one of my
favorite movies period Insane. Yeah, like, yo, your your boy
is kind of like that who is kind of like
your little brother Dobb dash yup, that's my boy.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
So it's like good people, Yeah, the best.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
So he's done a million of David's done. He's sick,
He's incredible. So you saw the clip. Okay, so but
break here, give me the clip too. Here's how it
is so well, I was just talking somebody about this yesterday, bro.
So how it should be is this when you go
in for somebody what I call an all tour. David

(14:15):
is an all tour. And when we came up, you know,
which is the nineties, you the early nineties, me the
mid nineties. You would go in and all tour is
a writer director, probably producing it too, and can see
the shots in his head, knows the soundtrack, you know,
like Baz Lurement All Tour, they were to wrestle All Tour,
Wes Craven All Tour. They know all the elements as

(14:36):
they're making this. When they shoot it, it's done. They
know what they got right. So when you go in
it's just you. It was me, him and Mary Renew
so and Mary Renew is like the goat, right, so,
and David's the goat.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
So you go in and I'm on the Warner Brothers
lot and I go on to probably four o'clock and
the first thing I say is to Cia, no disrespect
sends me in and they go and he's like, yeah,
what are you reading for? And I go this role
and he goes, yeah, that's not the role. And I
go why And he goes, Spike Jones playing that role.

(15:12):
And I go put though, that's what Cia said. He goes, yeah,
you got to pick another role. So he goes, go
look at this role. So then I go outside. I
learned lines about fifteen minutes and then I come back in.
He's like, mmmm, yeah, you gotta work on a little bit.
Go out there, take an hour. I'm out there working
on it. I come back in. He's like, try this,

(15:33):
try this, try this. I'm at forty five minutes after
the first like half hour, he goes, we're gonna go eat,
work on it, come back again. Yes, So you had
two you read twice already in the day, right, in
the best way possible, right, I got so then I like,
go to the toilet, I'll never forget. He hits me
I'm at the arnal, It's like you learn it yet,

(15:53):
and I'm like almost, And then like I literally.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Was there probably on and off for like four hours.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
And it was the one, probably the greatest casting I've
ever had, because he just looked at me, tell me
when I was messing up, but said I like you,
and Mary's like, yeah, he likes you, Jamie, and just
they worked with me, they molded me, and they just
went and did it until he got it right. And
at the end of it he was like, I think
you could do this, and I was like thank you,

(16:22):
and he's like okay, But did I know I had
the job? No?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Did I feel like I had the job yet?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Like dude, I went in with the different part, read
the new part, then we would improv and it was
just that's what the business is not anymore. People can
look at you as a colonel and shape you because
he's an artist. Yeah, Mary's an artist. When I went
in with Scream, I wasn't even off book for people

(16:48):
that don't know what that is, meaning know your lines.
I knew half of my lines and they were like, okay,
work work, it's called workshop in it.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Now. I went in I'll never forget this, like.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Four years ago, five years ago, right before shut I
went it for a TNT pilot, like a three episode arc.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Like you said, they know what it is. You know
what it did.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Maybe a little out of the box with me because
I'm playing like like you said, like a little crazier character.
But he's still gotta have some funniness. But it was
like on a drama six years in. I don't know
what was that fucking show, some kind of tant door
bro probably twelve people in the room looking at me
and analyzing it, then said, Jamie, you skipped the line

(17:27):
can you come back? Probably did it four times? They
said yeah, we like them. It was Oh, it was
a fucking for a director that was like a cokehead.
It was like perfect right. It was like three episodes
of dead Actress, all the shit Bro, I could of
did in my sleep. No, they went with somebody else,
but they really liked it and.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Really like it.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, and then don't you resent the idea for sure?
Like it's not of course you really liked that. I'm
like a rapport. Yeah, motherfucker. Like, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, you're gonna you really like you.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Just had you start to feel like you're like you're
you like you sucked something out of me.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Of course, you really like you just got a free show. Motherfucker. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
But then was great. It made me feel good. Was
Roger Musunden shout out love him. He offered me a
Lucifer and I was like, oh, it's nice. He just said, Yo,
here's a role boom. So it's like, that's the way
I think it should roll for us, you know, definitely you.
I think me too, Like I tell people, I'm like
bounce fabric softener. You know me, I'm on the shelf.

(18:27):
You know what I can do. Some days I'm hot,
some days I'm not.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Like, there's a bunch of us in this town, Jay yourself,
Harlan that have these careers that people kind.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Of don't know what to do with.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Then the business change. So but we're gonna keep going.
But yes, the nineties the early two thousands was a
lot of fun work, shopping, talking, sitting with actors, getting
a vibe. Now it's like, if you just want you
don't even fucking meet people.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
And then will zoom if you had to zoom or
this year. Yeah, I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I fucking did that.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I haven't done it in FORO. I hope I don't
have to do it.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
My career was buffering, you know what I mean, dude,
It's just a different world.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
And I don't want to take it personally. But you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
You've done scenes, what you done scenes on the mirror,
You've done scenes with Eddie Murphy, You've done I mean, it's.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Zoom or you're just singing? Is wild?

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I know it's not cool for any level of actor.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do you self tape?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I fortunately, Jamie, I haven't had to do it yet.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I don't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
If I'm going to self tape, I'm not gonna do
it in a room. I'm gonna do it like on
the street, because I'll feel more comfortable doing that.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Like in the room.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm gonna be humiliated, Like if I have to self
tape for something like if it's like a cop, or
if it's like a robber, or if it's like a banker,
I'm gonna go into the and I'm gonna be like,
you know, yeah, and it'll be a better tape.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
You know what I mean, Because it's just it just
seems like better.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
But like it just seems like because you're out on
the street, you're gonna just do better.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
You're experience worked. What was it like David Russell?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
You know he's had mythic sort of uh these flare
ups with Mark Wahlberg, for with Lily Tomlin. What was
your experience with David Russell on Three Kings?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I absolutely love them. I love him to this day.
I love him, I love but here's the difference. I
also love George, I love Mark. You know Cube that
was a cast man Nora Dunn, Cube, George, Mark Spike
and insane.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Where did you shoot that? Uh? Sayid right?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Cliff Cliff Curtis like, Yo, it was dope, right, it
was a mix.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
We shot it in Uh. I think Chandler, Arizona. Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
We all stayed at some shout out Barbara Worth holiday
and resort.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Here's what it is for me. It's like, look, dude,
I'm young.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I told people you pretty much like the way it
is today, and you're gonna know what I'm saying, Like
you could pretty much trip me, spit in my face.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Shank me.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
If I'm on film, I'm good, you know what I mean,
Like the goal is to be on film, right, So
I've had Have I ever seen any crazy shit?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Just fights?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Not in life, I've seen a lot of that's the
creative spot, right, So things gonna happen. But like I
have a big tolerance, so I can put up with
anything because to me, at the end of the day,
it's about the film. So so I'll try to tell
you is basically he you know, I don't mean, I
don't know what I can say, but him and George

(21:30):
had a different style.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
You know, I'm one for me to speak on it,
I'm not trying to get gospel, but I was like.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Seventh on the call sheet, so it's not for me
to speak. But in a nutshell, you know, he has
one way of working.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Is he a screamer or was he a screamer on
that set?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm I mean, like we were outside, so he's trying
to make Yeah, it's like yo shuit in the fucking desert.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Bro. It might be like our first a d was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I forget I think it was named is jus a
legend doue and legend guy and we had there was
a scene. I don't know if you remember milk all
this milk. Something happened and all the refugees and they
were finally like got milk and it was like a
big deal because they were didn't have food.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Also, who's in it is the girl from Oh God,
she's a legend. She's she was a.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Little girl and now she was on uh the mo
It'll come back, dude, five G when my brain. She
was on the show with Michael, Sarah and Bateman Arrest
of development.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, but she was a little girl.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Maybe her name is maybe on the show, but she's brilliant.
So anyway, we're doing all this stuff and there's like
one hundred extras and we're giving them milk and all
this white liquid comes and Julian like the a d
The people weren't active enough, so he's got the thing
and the ad is like trying to get them going.
He's like shouting and then he goes bathing it.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
It's Holy Walt like and they said it's bathing and
so that was a bit. It was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
People were fucking taking stuff, putting it on themselves. So
was he a screamer, No, just he was. He was
a dude that wanted to make we were making it
very hostile, a movie about a hostile thing in hostile
conditions with X amount of time. Ah, but you know,
fights are gonna happen, dude, I could tell you fights

(23:23):
on every set I've been on.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
See I haven't seen that many fights are like you know,
the sort of cliche Hollywood fights, you know, where it's
you know, I haven't seen that many. Like if I
was like, say, if you ask me, I go, yeah,
maybe one I had one with it one director, you know,
but I haven't seen that much. And a lot of
people outside of show Bus would be like, you know,
who's an asshole or who's the biggest I hate that,

(23:45):
but I'm always like, you know me, you know, maybe
like you know, no, but but I haven't seen that many,
Like I haven't.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
I personally haven't seen that much of it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
You know, it's you know, whether it's the disagreements.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I've seen disagreements, but where it's worth mentioning, like you
see you know, like where it's like you know this
one got into this or you know, like the Christian
Bale moment that got caught on camera. I'm like First
of all, that was a certain kind of thing, and
we've you know, people like they're fascinated by that, but
if you contextualize it, it's just sort of somebody didn't
shut up, you know, but a movie start doing it?

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Podcast?

Speaker 4 (24:35):
What was your experience on Bowfinger?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
One of the most I mean, such an iconic film,
such an incredible cast. Steve Martin, Eddie Murphy like at
that time in his career, was sick. You must have
been amped, because I'm sure you grew up in Eddie Murphy, Fann.
I'm sure you grew up with Steve Martin, Fanny. When
you look back on that, what were your days like
on that's it? How pumped were you and when? And

(25:00):
you've been on these sets with these people that you
grew up loving. Because I still to this day at
fifty three, like I'm still like oh shit, Like I
can't there's a part of me that's still like, oh shit.
Like I got to work with Steve Martin on Only
Murders in the Villain, I was like fucking out off him,
Like I was like, yeah, fucking Steve Morton. But when
you're younger, it's closer to when you were out of
the business. What was your experience like working on that

(25:20):
film with those people?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Dude, it was icon. It was insane. Think about this, bro.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
When I went in for my final audition, it was
Steve Okay, Brian Grazer, and Frank Oz and if you
and Frank Oz is a legend just as a director,
but people don't realize.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He's Yoda, right, He's Fazi Bear right.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
And Brian produced you know, billions of movies, you know,
from a beautiful mind on up, you know what I mean.
So working with Steve was pretty much I was his
assistant on the movie, and so I was like it
was the greatest like college summer ever.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I was like literally his you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
So I was like Dean, you know what I mean,
Like I was just fucking soaping up everything being with him.
I was every day we would be in a scene together,
we would eat lunch together, and then Eddie would come
out when we had scenes, and so it was like
being in probably the greatest PhD program of really comedy

(26:23):
and Hollywood. It was like, I'm still can't believe how
blessed that was.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
What was the Eddie Murphy process experience like, especially him
doing that character because he was like, you know, this
nerd and then he would slip, you know, go into
like what we expect from Eddie murphfy, Like what do
you remember of watching him work?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's just brilliant, basically in a nutshell that some of
the best stuff that you saw is him improvising. So
he would go he would play two characters. He would
play Kit, who was the flamboyant you know, wildcat brother,
and then the nerdy character. And once those braces went on,
and once those glasses went on, like well, I mean

(27:01):
he just we would just point the camera and just
shoot and he would just go off and it was
just brilliant, dude, brilliant, brilliant, like just insane. Like Steve,
who's brilliant, was also like this is brilliant. I mean
it was just like watching two maestros. But Eddie just
he would come in, kill the scene and then bounce.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah. I mean, Eddie Murphy, that.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Level of talent is not common.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I mean, his thing is is brilliant, and it's easy
to say that, but when you're watching it in real life,
you're like, oh shit, dude.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I would just sit there and I would just absorb it.
I would just be like it was just he was
never he just tried.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
He would just but.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
He he didn't plain that though. What you mean by tried, well,
you know, really it's never done right. Like the whole
process is a work in progress. You could talk to
any filmmaker and they'll go, oh, I wish I'd changed this,
even when it was a successful movie. This whole thing
that we're doing is a try, you know what I mean.
We're looking for moments and you can't. It's never gonna
be perfect. So Eddie is brilliant, not because just because

(28:05):
he's so talented and can do so many things, it's
so versatile, but he's fearless. He just goes and he
tries and he trusts in his instrument that is going
to be beautiful, right, and that's what.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
He and we're gonna get to the beauty.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, And it's encouraging because you're just like, okay, just
like I'm not him, I can never be him, but
I can do my own version of trying.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's like on stage, you try a joke, hopefully it hits.
If not, I got another one, right. So it's it's
really about trusting your process.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I agree, and also being in an environment where you
can try things because you know you're going back to
you know what it was like, or this director or
that director.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I think that when you feel trusted, when you feel safe,
when you feel like you can fuck up, or you
can feel like you're you're off rhythm or not getting
it right, but you're not feeling like you're like doing
something wrong, that's when you're at your best to go.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
What you're saying is this is think about this. All
the movies you name are made by brilliant minds, right,
and they were the freest sets, and they're the ones
that I've made. I have about nine things I think
on my career throughout the decades that are what I
call pop culture staples. And then the hardest shit I

(29:23):
ever shot, the shit you never heard of, is like
this ship that I was micromanaged into the fucking dust
and I couldn't have fun.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
When you walk on a set at this point, I've
always had this gift and my wife, who I've known
for your shield, validate every single time I've known before
the camera starts, when it's gonna be a piece of shit,
and I'll I fold and I put it on record,
this is a piece of shit. This is gonna really well,
maybe this is gonna be a piece I'm gonna work,

(29:52):
I'm gonna give it my hole every day, but this
is gonna be a piece of shit.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Why do you do it? Just get a little paycheck?

Speaker 7 (29:57):
No, you don't know, you get you don't know until
you get there because the bullshit and the smoking mirrors
and the talking and the everything.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
But when you get there and you start blocking or
you start reading through, you go he's just like, I.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Know, more in TV or more in film.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
The times when it was really apparent were films, and
they were the bigger films, and it was like, really,
I've never been in a big, big like where it's
like all poping, big film where it's big money and.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
You know the films that you know, they've been like
the smaller ones.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
But when it's like a lot of money and a
lot of to me, it's like from my experiences, I'm
sure there's ones where it goes good, but it's just
a sense it's just kind of a like go over
there kind of thing, and how do you know I
should go over there? Like it's just that kind of
like thing where you're like, go over there, all right, well,
you know, like what we just got here?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Man? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah? One time
I did? I did? You know?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I think for me TV is a little bit more
and I love it, but it's just so micromanaged.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yes, oh my god, and the butts, the who's dude?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
After you do like six of the movies we're talking about,
and then you know, your agents send you, you know,
got you a pilot and you're like, why am I
doing a pilot? And then you realize, you know, because
it's a good gravy train if it worked, and at
the time in late nineties, early two thousands, they want
you to get on that TV. So I do this pilot.
And then I had that moment for you. It was

(31:28):
about the night before taping and each day you know,
they were rewriting and rewriting, and you know they were
doing that thing that we all love to hear, is energy, right,
more energy or faster?

Speaker 7 (31:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's like, what that's not a direction? Right? Right?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
So the night before we stayed light really late. They're
rewriting the script. Dude pulls out half a bottle of
fucking I don't know, rum or some shit jack and
pours a little glass.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
And he goes funny juice, juice.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
You need a little juice, right.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I was like, I took a shot, but he took
a shot. The good news is he took a shot too,
because it gets one of the right funnier ship. But
I'm like, that are pilot's coming down to a fucking glass.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
This is where we are.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
We're hitting half a shot of j D or whatever.
It was hilarious, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
But I was, but I'm like, I don't think this
pilot's gonna go now. It's going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
You know, you know, funny juice, Yeah, you know you
need a little funny.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
We got a little little funny juice in here in
the eighties.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
You know that was probably a funny bump exactly right,
a funny bump, right. But I mean it's all it's
a try, Yeah, it's a try. I find some of
the best ship we do though, is the unmanaged ship.
You know what I mean, like when it's not up ass.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, well, speaking of unmanaged, when you did your Jamie,
because when I look at the clips now and again,
I see it mostly on your page when you post
like the Jamie Kennedy experiment, Like, I don't want to
say it was ahead of it.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It wasn't ahead of its time.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I want to say it's the first second or but
it was like you were doing some crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Do you miss?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
First of all, how did that show come about? Jamie
kenny experiment?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Like did it come to you? Did you pitch it?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Back in the day, we had something called holding deals.
I'm sure you grabbed a few of them. Yes, And
they were fucking amazing money and basically would pay you
for a year of your life not to do anything.
So for you had I had to deal with Fox,
and I couldn't do nothing but just meet with Fox people.
So one of the shows I met on was a
was a cartoon pilot called Family Guy went Deep, didn't

(33:35):
get it right, seth h. And then the second one,
I met with a guy by the name of Greg
Daniels and he had a show and then he had
created the Office. So but I met tons of people,
but those are just two that became these, you know, monoliths.
So you meet with everybody on the lot, you try
to do some shit, You do guest spots and did
a couple of guest spots on shows and then at

(33:57):
the end of the year, nothing happened. W He then
gave me another deal for the next year.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Did it.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
At the end of my deal, they extended it for
three more months and they said, you know, we like you.
There's something here and I just basically long story born
as an audition for SNL twice never got it. Had two
sides of me. People knew me from movies and just
kind of acting. And then I had all these characters
from stand up. Met with the creators of Mad TV

(34:25):
at the last minute. It was an eleventh hour play.
They came up with some stuff. I did, my characters.
We put it together. They said to Jamie kinn experiment.
We pitched it to Jordan, He's like, I love it.
He was a young beautiful and Susanne Daniels, who is
Greg's wife, they both ran the network. They said, we
just loved this idea pilot. As we shot the pilot,

(34:48):
they're like, we love it.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
And they went they didn't give us nine. They gave
us seven.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
So but it was enough and we were made outside
of the box, kind of like this alternative programming tons
of I mean, I have to tell you ten hours
of development and back and forth, but eventually we got
it because it was so weird. They didn't know what
it was, but they just loved it. And it was
really because of creative executives and a president who would
see me.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
He would see me at the laugh Factory doing comedy. Yes,
a lot of people don't know that you started as
a comic.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
As a comic, yes, and an extra. And he would say,
you're the funniest when you bomb. Ah.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
This is another example of tries right. So I would bomb.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I remember any Dick went up and killed and Sarah's
oberman killed, and I went up and did this character,
and I just ate Dick and I was so mad
and I would react and he goes, you're hilarious because
you get so mad when you bomb, and then it
becomes really funny. So he, because I bombed in a
funny way, liked me. And then when he was a
junior executive, when he became the president network, that's how

(35:49):
I got a deal.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Was this before Screamer?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
After Scream I was bombing much before scream Then I
had about five years and he moved up the executive
ranks to president and I moved up to you know,
coming known thing.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
But you had done screaming then, Jamie Kinny Experiment.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, all I did about five years of movies, okay,
and then I was like really close and I was
up for this movie called Mission the Mars and I
was so mad. I was like, I really wanted that
movie and I didn't get it. What was that movie
that was a big briand to Palmel movie Jerry O'Connell,
Val Kilmer, Val Kilmer and yeah, Tom Sizemore, I think
Tom god Rest the Soul and a Bam dude. And

(36:25):
then I was like because that was like I was
always you know you how you are a cop or
a drug dealer. I was always like the sidekick, right,
like what women want. I went in like four times
for that. I thought I was gonna get that Furstine.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
He's the man.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
He got it. So I was always like kind of
standing next to these humongous stars, you know, like Bowfinger
and stuff. So I had about four years of that
and then it's just I stopped getting those roles and
so the Maiden is like TV. So Jamie kin Experiment.
After all that, how many years did you do?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Jamie Kinny Experiment, three and explain to the viewers or
explain to me.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Also, you're like in the wild.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
This is before cell phones, this is before everything, like
this is when you could do shit like that. Yea,
Like now it's you know, Eric Andre killed it with
his movie.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Did you see it? I heard It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You know he bugged it's bugged out, especially in this
day and age that and he's a famous person.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, Like it's good. But would you call it a
prank show?

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Like what would you how would you describe it?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I call a psychological experiment to me. To me, it
was always a mix between cannon camera. Alan font was
a hero and Eddie Murphy was mother hero. So it
was like doing Eddie Murphy type of characters in the wild.
So people really believed it. And of course I thought
the town would like it because they would go, oh,
he's a good actor, right, because he put on prosthetics

(37:44):
and stuff. But the tallenges would say, I like your
little prank show. It's really funny, But there's a whole story.
I have it because Nicole.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Social media would have served that show really well.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Dude, you're telling me.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Social if we had social media would have served that show. Really,
I just it would have really served we Obviously we
didn't have that.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I can't say it now, but dude, people would pass
around the tapes. They would literally record the tape and
pass That's where we were, right.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
So I remember when Nicole Kidman won for Cole Mountain.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I'm like, that's the same prosthetic nose I wear. But
since it's a drama, she gots it. But since I'm.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Doing a like, I'm like, because.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Because it's funny, people don't take it seriously, right, which
is a whole deeper conversation. We could talk to your stepfather,
which first Mark told me that back in the day,
how we should have our own category.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
So to do the show though, dude, because on movies
I tell.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
People this and you know this, it's like we're getting
picked up, We're doing a town car, We're doing you know,
you're doing a press in like Paris, you're living, You're
at the Four Seasons, you're living, right, we don't have
to think the first episode we do with the Jimi
Kanks permit, I knew it was gonna be great creatively,
but I'm literally hiding in a closet with a fake nose,

(38:59):
with a on in some fucking tight ass wardrobe with
a weird prop and there's a real lady out there,
and I'm in Glendale and I'm like, this ain't the
movie business anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
And I'm like I'm done.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I'm a fucking I'm a loser, and I'm like, this
has gotta work.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
So I go out.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
We do the first prank and it fucking goes crazy.
It was fucking I could hear the producers just dying
laughing in my ear. And once we did that, it
was just on and it became a different thing. But
I had to get used to it not being a movie.
I had to get used to this being this wild
sketch show in the wild.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, I mean that's not just doing TV.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
No, that's not.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And it's also I mean it could have been a movie,
but that's a different kind of it was performing. I
never know, you're scared, and you're so you're a compassionate person,
and you're like, you know, because I felt bad, I
couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I wouldn't be able to do it. I wouldn't. I
don't think i'd why you would break No, I just would.
I mean I would be able to do it. To
a certain point.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But I feel like because you're tricking people in a way,
you know what, like, and that would And as much
as it's like I'm hard and you know, I talk
my ship like, I would bug out off of that,
Like I think I could do it in certain circuss
but like when you're saying a woman you're in Glenda,
I'm like, what do you what did you.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Do to her? Fire? Hard attick?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
My ship was always sweet, but like you would get
exactly like I never wanted to be mean.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I don't think I was ever mean, right.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
My whole thing was do a character that was cool, right,
so that was really believable, have a scenario that was crazy,
and then have a mark that was really gullible. So
I did one called jaw Man. I don't even know
if you remember that, So this is exactly what you're
talking about. You and I would do this whole interview
with him and they were like, he just had some
jaw surgery, but don't mind. And then I was like,

(40:49):
and it was like long story board, you have to
watch it, but I'm drooling and all this shit, and
the lady was so sweet, and they're like, so you're
gonna be taking notes and then and then I was
giving her thing.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
And I was like, do you dictate?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
And she's like, I'm sorry, I can't understand it. And
then she started getting sad and then I was like no, no, no.
So we got the bid and then we were like
it's okay, it's okay. But she felt bad for me.
So that was like what you say when people feel bad.
But I was never fucking mean, I hope not a
golf guy. That's another story. Threw a putter at me.
That was the angrist one, the angriest one of all

(41:24):
time was a golfer. Who are the angry fucking people?
So we do that show and it was just a
wild time. But once we did this playback on Friday nights,
we would have the playback for the studio audience and
that's when we would see if all the last were
real and then we see if the bits worked. And
once the first weekend happened, it was fucking insane. The

(41:48):
playback was incredible. The audience loved it. We went to Morton's.
We would get that back room in Burbanks day fucking
all night, multiple bottles, and it was just a beautiful juice.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
And it was just a beautiful time to be alive, right, right.
They would send me to Vegas.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I would go to babies, remember babies, Yes, And I
would just do promotion giveaways.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
I'd go to the pool. I would go to the
palms pool.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I'll go to the heart it was. I'd go to
fucking Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I would go to spring break. It was a time, right,
and it was.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
But it was a great time, and it introduced me
as a comedic person. Before I was just an actor,
but then I was at that time and you were
doing it too. I was trying to become a funny entity.
And it's like, if it worked, then you get your
ten million dollar movies and roll them over.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Uh huh. How conscious were you?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You know one thing that I wasn't conscious of, Man,
I wasn't really conscious. I didn't get conscious of this.
It's so late to be and I'm being totally honest
of commodity.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I always wanted my money.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
But I never looked at myself as like, this is
gonna do this this year, and this is gonna do that.
I didn't think that way, and it was an any
I didn't have the people that were sort of sort of,
and if they did, I'd be like, I'm just trying
to be real, you know, I didn't look at.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
My despian mode.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yes, yeah, well yeah, like in New York, you know,
you kept a gully, yeah, gangster.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
But even in my thing, it was like, you know,
it goes almost like a rapper mentality, you know, like
I wasn't like in a business mentality. But how conscious
were you of yourself as a commodity and the business
of Jamie Kennedy and the business of being an actor,
and or when did you get conscious of it?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
At what age or what point?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
It sounds like you were probably a little bit more
conscious of it earlier than I was.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Well, I would say I started getting in the movies.
I mean, my first movie ever was Romeo and Juliet,
which was an insane intro. Before that, I just did
some guest spots and it did commercials. So then I
remember when I started getting in the business, the whole
thing was was a movie going to make a hundred million, right,
And the second movie I ever did was Scream And

(43:50):
then the third movie was Screamed too. So every movie
I was doing an Enemy of the State and both
finger so I was in a string of like five
or six million dollar movies. So it's something. But now
I'm not I'm not the lead. Leo's the lead or
George Kloon's the lead on Mark's the lead.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
But I was like part of these.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I got an amazing ride along, right, So then I'm like, okay,
so let's keep this moving. So I wanted to try
to get my indie. You know, you get your son
dance roll. I did a couple of those indies that
didn't go like La Film first Monitor.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I remember that, but for a.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Minute, that was like a spot where you could kind
of and they those didn't really pop. So then my
agents were like, you gotta do TV. And like I said,
so I had these development deals. They're like, you're funny,
you should blow up as a comedian like in movies
and TV, and then you're gonna be able to call
your shots for something gotcha dramatic. So I would say

(44:47):
probably two thy ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
You where you started putting like looking at it, cause
when you're young. How old were you when when you
did Romeo and Juliet twenty five? Shit, yeah, we're so
fucking young and so stupid, I know.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I mean I was like, dude, I mean they look
at all. It was just I was literally.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Just you're tripping because you're like, yeah, well Leo was
about to become Leo.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Leg Wasama was one of my idols. You know.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Paul Rodd was just popping, but you know he's gonna Dash,
I mean, so I was like I would always hang
with Dash and he kind of like trained me on
like what's house set is?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
So it was I'm just happy to be there. For
the first four or five years, I got you're happy
to me. I got you you're standing in a room
with Will Smith, you know what I mean. So once
I started realizing and people started saying you're funny, and
I started seeing the feedback, and you go to screenings
and your man's Chinese and your a movie thing.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
You hear a laugh, you know, you all changes.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
So yeah, I thought, you know, my agents had Will
Ferrell and so I was like, okay, they had all
different funny people.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
So I was like, okay, I could do.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
At the time, people don't remember this, my agent had
Matt Listeners, he had mal LeBlanc, George Lopez, Will Ferrell, me,
David Cross and Chappelle. Wow, probably more. That's just off
the top of my head. And people don't remember the
Chappelle was doing a fuck to the movies. He was
doing Blue Streak, he was doing Nunny Professor, he was

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doing so many movies.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
And that's that was our thing, right.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
We were like, yeah, you're doing comedy, but really you
got to blow up in the movie, right, So it
was we were all our lane was at eight to
ten million dollars Robert Simon's get in one of those movies,
make a hit, do another one, Roll It Over podcast.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You said you auditioned for SNL twice. What was that
process like? Was it as weird as everybody says? And
what was your highlight and low light of that time
doing it? And does your audition tape live somewhere you
have it because you see like pop, you know, like
you know this person will be like, you know, like

(47:02):
audition tape beauty first time in life.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
So talk to me about those experiences.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Like I said, I was doing a ton of stand up,
wasn't getting anywhere, and then I was doing you know,
I started getting commercials in some guest boss so but
I had enough characters.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
You go, you meet Lauren Michaels.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
He has a deal on the lot and you go
on a lot, which lot paramount and they have that
whole Broadway video and so they say, you know, you
may wait a little bit when you go to meet him.
You wait, you know what I mean, he's got a
lot going on. So I think I got there at
like one, and I probably waited till like six.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Shit, that's a long time. Yeah, there's no cell phone.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
No, it was ninety four shit, And he was he
comes at the end, I'll try to do the impression.
And he literally had gone in and out all day
doing different meetings.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Is there other people audition? No, nobody was audition that
I know of. It was.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
This was just the original meeting. And so he had
productions going on and all the different things. And then
he came out like at the end of the day
and he goes, I'll try to do him what He's like.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I hear you do a lot of characters.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
And I was like yeah, and he goes, would you
like to go to New York?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Bam? And that was it. That's what you waited five
hours for. You got a wait? You got away, bro,
you're twenty three years old.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
You gotta wait so that I go in and I
go to I want to say Gotham or the Seller,
one of them.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I auditioned. I do a bunch of different characters.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
But it was in a comedy club, which was cool
because I thought, okay, I didn't do Groundings, but I
knew Sandler popped off of comedy. Obviously, Eddie was always
a comedian, but at that time they were taking more
comedians just as many as Groundings had a pretty good set.
Wasn't killer, but wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Is there a crowd there? Yeah? Or it's not an
empty room.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
No, it's like you see some Okay, so you're doing okay,
So you're doing your Saturday Life audition. Yeah, it's a
stand up as a stand up. Yes, and you're doing
straight up characters. There's not no crowd work.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
No, no, no, you got like six minutes and so
I'm just doing from character to fact. They're like, this
is blah blah something you know, this is blah blah.
And I didn't have a I did it pretty good,
but I didn't kill, but I didn't die.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
But I know that he has always been able to
look at you.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
I've heard and mold you, and Molly Shannon was there
and she killed and then before I get on the plane,
which was like, my managers like, I don't want to
ruin your plane ride, but it's not going any further.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
And I was like why and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
They said, you don't do enough political impressions and I said,
but I was twenty three.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I didn't even know what politics was.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I was like, tell me who to do you want
me to do like Dick Cheney or what He wasn't
even around them, and he want me to do fucking,
you know, fucking Bush Like I was day this thing right?
So I fly back to New York.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I must have spin a shitty flight. Oh bro, this
we only first class, like one of my first first class.
And then that was it.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I had a good agent and then I didn't. I
was like buma. And then I talked on Molly and
Molly didn't get it either, and I was like, wow,
this is wild, like she killed it too, and I
had no idea what to do, and my manager, Pam Thomas,
was like, well, you just you gotta start auditioning. So
I remember standing in front of the comedy store was
nineteen ninety four. It was like this summer of ninety four,

(50:34):
I was not in there at all. I would do
like potluck and I would get those please allow because
I was becoming a known in town. So I'd get
like a five minute and I just stood out there
and I was like, literally, you know that corner And
I was like, what am I gonna do? Why am
I doing stand up? Because I didn't really want to
be a comedian, I used it as a showcase and

(50:56):
I'm like, what the fuck am I going to do?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
And then I started aut thish.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Somehow I got APA, I got a PA and they
were like, we're gonna send you on an audition, so
they did. And one of the first things I ever got,
God bless him is stan Lathan gave me a role
in his HBO pilot called The Corner, and it was
he gave me one of my earliest breaks. And that
was because he had saw me at the store and

(51:23):
doing a five minute spot and he said he brought
me in.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
You are still doing stand up? Where's your head at
with standam?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Now?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Do you love it? Do you like you know?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Doing weekends? And Molly got it the next year by
the way she could. She might when she came off.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
You, Like I said earlier, you encouraged me to, were like, Yo,
you should do it, You'll have fun, you'll be great.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
But I wait to go back to you, dude. People
don't realize that you kind of started as.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
A stand up too. I did start as at People
don't realize.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
That when I would walk in the improv, I would
fucking sign up and do those Mondays like I'm talking
ninety ninety one. Yeah, and you were up there and
I was just starting. Yeah, but you were always around.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah. I was always around. Then when you got zebra Head,
Everyone's like, yo, Mike just got zebra.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
And it was like and it was gone. It was like, yo,
you became like a fucking legit actor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
So but you started as a stand up. Yes, I
didn't know that. You didn't keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
I didn't keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
And because I fell so deeply in love with acting
and it just came so easy to me, Like it's
like the I didn't think about being an actor until
I like I got called in for an audition and.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I was like, this is what I'm gonna do, you know.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Because I grew up wanting to be a basketball player.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
And this is you know shit I talk about all
the time of my pockets whatever.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
But I wanted to be a basketball player. I knew
I was going to be a basketball player.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Like at fifteen sixteen, I was fucking around whatever. I
started doing stand up and I enjoyed it, but I
didn't it didn't come naturally. I didn't like the discipline
of it. I didn't like the repetitiveness of it. And
then like the first audition I ever went, I was like,
this is what I'm gonna do. I was like, it
was just like not to say, a beautiful mind, but
I was like, this is what I'm fucking doing. I'm

(53:04):
doing this. There ain't no way I'm not doing this.
I'm getting this fucking part. And you know it just
it made sense to me, you know what I mean.
And then I you know, just started you know, acting,
and now I love stand up now because of all
the things that we talked about in this interview in
this podcast that we don't like about being an actor,

(53:25):
the constraints, the you know, when you're a stand up
you're the actor, You're the director, You're you're the lighting person,
you're the editor, you're the wardrobe, you're everything. It's complete freedom.
Good bad, are indifferent, and it's also still a challenge
for me. And it's also you know, like such like
an open playing field because as long as you're living,

(53:46):
there's things to talk about on stage. And I love
that aspect of it. I don't love the fifth show
of a weekend because you're like, did I say that already?

Speaker 1 (53:55):
You know?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
You're just like and I don't have you know, enough
material or the skill set to, you know, at the
fifth show to be like, I'm just gonna do something
totally different for this fucking hour.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
But every you don't do this. You don't do a
different hour every hour, do you?

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Hell no? Yeah? So you do your hour? Yeah, or
you do mix it up.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I mix it up and I play around, you know
what I'm talking about When it's like you're like, did
I say? Did I did I?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Because you've done it. But like, what do you like
about stand up on the road? Because doing fifteen minutes
in town that's total freedom? Yeah, well except.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
For because now everything's on blast?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Don't don't you have everything everything?

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah, it's weird. You can't work it out because you're
being docus, not at the big show, not at you know,
because I gotta go to show with you and Harlan
and Liza and Whitney. It's like the guns are.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
They're like, Luis c K, I know what the fuck
is going on here? Like people are coming, they want
to see a show.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
It's like you want to work out, but you're literally
doing you know, John Mulaney, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
At the other night, it's like John Mlaney, Uh you
know Eliza Slessinger, Yeah, fucking this.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
I'm like you PIVN what ship? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
And that's a compliment because we literally have to be
tight because that's like.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I'm on a Tuesday night with Louis c K. What
is that?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
That's not it shouldn't be publicized. Just come to get
properly the laugh Actor Comedy Store. You're gonna get a
good show. But when it's like people come in to see.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
A show, yeah, no, and it And what's crazy is
when you were not in the game, it was you
did one club. There was like the Fivictoms. Now, I
mean a couple of weeks ago, I did Improv Factory Store.
Every show was sold out. It was one of these
like Avenger lineups, like you're saying, and it's like, you

(55:39):
gotta be on right, so you can't just work it out.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Where do you work your sit out here now? And
where do you work out now?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Like I mean when I work, if I work it
out out, I mean when I'm saying it to I
mean like practice. He's saying, practice, new ship. Yeah for
the very first time.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Yeah, you know you can do it in the lab,
which is good, but even those shows are passed like
and they're like Adam Sam in the what the fuck
is going on here?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
The belly room? But even those shows are packed. Uh
really ha ha. You can sneak at the Ha Hall
late at night and get some reps in ice house.
But let me go back to what you were saying
about stand up totally different from me than it ever
was because it used to be become known.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Right, here's the perfect thing is become known as a.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Stand up, headline clubs, get a TV deal, become a
sitcom star, get a movie, become a movie star.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
It's a rap.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
And then and like twenty fourteen, everything was everything I saw. Literally,
people like Kevin Hart was like starring in Husbands of
Hollywood had one hundred million dollar movie, and I saw
that he did the Weekend at Flappers, and I'm like,
this dude, he literally like was like everywhere. And I'm like,

(56:57):
you just played like Madison Square Garden and something happened
where you just worked Like social media, there was a
thing where you would do a certain level and you
didn't go back, and then something happened with social media
where you started just going everywhere. Right, Like that's how
you have these lineups. Like for ticket sales, those lineups
don't need to exist, meaning we all those people you're

(57:19):
talking about could sell two thousand, most of them two
thousand tickets or more a night, Right, they don't need
to go and do a two hundred seater with you know,
and only do fifteen minutes. They're going to practice too, Yeah,
but it's hard. But I think it's hard to practice
because I think we all have to. For me, I
want to do good because yeah, we come around these
amazing people.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
You don't want to suck with.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Like I'm like, Luis cy K is like going on
after me, Like I don't want to drop down. Like
I had intentions one night to practice all new shit
and I got there and like Loui's going after I'm like, fuck, man,
I don't want to because I mean, just because I
have reverenced for him, like one night sign Folk, I'm
now he just popped in.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
But I'm like, well, what the fuck man?

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, I know. So I remember that we did a
show in New York. It was me and you, it
was Chrissy, it was I think Tim Dillon pop.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I mean it was.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
That's just a lot of heavy hitters. So it's a
good pressure to have. But I feel the pressure, yeah,
and it takes away. It takes Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Where you want to practice shit, because there's certain you.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Have to if you want to practice, go to Flappers,
sneaking Flappers on a Monday, anytime you can walk in.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I'm sure they'll let you.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
But going back to what you're saying about the hot
about stand up more, I think more important than ever,
and I believe I'm more into it than ever. I
only I do it now because it's like it's really
because it loves me, Like the community is very loving
to me. And also I get to say what I want.

(58:44):
It's more important than ever to do and put the
Like what you're doing right now, you know, is like
you're putting out fucking God's work.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
You're saying your opinion and believe, whether people believe you
are not. You're a fucking gathering your tribe, and this
is your truth and you're not lying. That's how you believe.
And we might believe a lot of same stuff. We
might believe some different stuff, but you're saying what you
want and it's I mean, tell me if I'm wrong.
But I think it's helpful to the world to share

(59:15):
your truth. I agree, And as an actor, as much
as I love it, we're just fucking pawns in the game.
And with podcasting, with social media, with clips, A, your
career can blow up just off a clip, and B
it's a way for people to really know you. Yes, yes,
so I think it's more important than ever. And you
can go to Montana and sell a thousand tickets you

(59:37):
didn't even know we're there, and also talk about real shit.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
You can become your own fucking Carlin.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Do you find now because your stuff on YouTube, your
stuff on your podcast has leaned into politics. I never
gave a shit about politics. Literally, I mean literally, I
didn't give a fuck. I mean not zero point zero, bro,
I couldn't tell you anything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Bro, you were on the Ones and twos.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
You were fucking fucking KRS one and I was like
following you like we were hip hop, we were breakdancing,
we were ball That's all it was. That was fun, right,
pop bottles get can't say bitches women?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
You know what I mean? Can you say?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Have fun? Right? Right? That's what That's what my space
was in entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
How did your sort of point of view change? Or
you get interested in you get frustrated by it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I'm gonna tell you, and then I want to hear
how you did it? OK, Because, like I tell people,
this is a joke. I don't really have it written yet,
but I'm like, this is how bad politics is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
It fucking right, Like yo, be read. I should be
fucking rapping and Malibu. I should be doing a break dance.
Like the fact that I'm talking about it is fucking nuts.
I've said something similar, right, No, total bro, like we're
fucking that's not I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Doctor Doolittle, I you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
I played a raccoon and you me for your politics
like you were in give me one of your funniest movies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
You know what I mean. Like, no, I was the
Doctor Dolittle too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yeah, yeah, went both to do little. What did you play?
I think you played a raccoon. I played the dog.
I played the stray dog.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
You were you you were in too, Yes, I was
a wreck sactly. We're both in Doctor Doolittle and so
the So well, here's what happened. I just listen. I
don't even want to talk to you about this. I'm
gonna go gently you. You whatever you believe, you believe,
and whatever I believe, I believe. And the beauty of
us is that we can respect each other and still

(01:01:44):
love each other, and we fucking get down. But I
think because the biggest thing with me is hypocrisy, and
I see a lot of hypocrisy on I don't I
never was anything. I wouldn't even care about voting you,
you know what I mean, Like George Carlin didn't vote
for the longest time. So I was if you want
to say I was anything, I was an independent, you

(01:02:06):
know what I mean. I was like, do what you
want in your private life, love who you love. Just
let me keep my money, you know what I mean.
And if there's policies and to help the homeless. Of
course I'll pay into that. I'm very fortunate. But I
think when people just I started seeing this crazy hypocrisy
and I started going, this is so weird. And then

(01:02:27):
COVID hit and there was a lot of fucking shady shit,
and then I started just kind of putting my fucking
two cents in there. And people seem.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
To like it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
But I try to say it with the kind of
informed mind, like I talk about this, bro Like people
hate the term do your own research, they hate the
term fucking looking at whatever. But if you're gonna buy
a house right now, and you're gonna fucking go over
here on Sunset and Librea and you're gonna look for
a fucking house, aren't you gonna look at comparables. Aren't
you gonna look at the neighborhoo? Aren't you gonna look

(01:03:00):
at the school? You'd be called an informed fucking chopper.
Right We do that with a lot of other ship
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
We're called conspiracy theories. So it's like to me, that's
what we do. That's all you do all every day
is ask questions.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Do you con see yourself Republican? What do you con
see yourself now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Honestly, dude, I was an independent and now I'm not
registered as anything. But I people have put me down
as this kind of Republican.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yes, I'm sure on social media you're like like, they're like,
you're one of the cool ones.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
It's like or no, I'm not like they call me
like I should live in Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
I'm right wing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
But yo, they've also said this about Russell Brand that's crazy, right.
So it's like, yeah, I consider myself an independent, but
probably I'm gonna be considered a Republican. But there's ship
about Republicans I like, and there's shit about it. I
hate just the same with Democrats. Just with liberals too.
There's liberals.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I love them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
The liberals, I'm like, yo, you're nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
There should be more teams.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
That's the that's the biggest problem is that there's it's
like as if you can only choose the Yankees and
the Dodgers and that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
You got to pick one of those two teams and
there's nowhere else to go, and we could talk to
this independent Green party ship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
At the end of the day, you need to pick
the Yankees and the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Because there is no Red Sox, there's no twins, there's
no nothing, no.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
But you're saying that's how it is now. I know,
but there should be more. There should be more teams
to pick from. There's a lot of levels in that.
I know they are too loyal to the strike. I
know it's not good. It's it's not good, and I
don't know if it's never gonna change. I don't think
that's going to ever change.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
That Democrat Republican and that being the two teams to
pick from, it's pathetic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Since you've articulated your opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
On politics, on social issues, have your shows the people
that come to your live shows, your stand up shows,
has it changed?

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Is the temperature changed? Is it people that want to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
See and it's might It must be because people want
to see scream Jamie Kennedy, Jamie Kennedy, experiment, a mass
to Jamie Kennedy who know nothing about your political stuff.
And then there's people like talk your shit right, And
do you feel a pressure to serve because when for me,
when people come to see you in Kansas City, Chicago, whatever,

(01:05:38):
like you want to give them the best show possible. Yes,
And you know if you get the divide like now,
like I like talking shit about Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I like talking about Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
But what's funny When I talk shit about Biden, no
one cares no, And I talk a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Of shit about Biden. You do, do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I bang on that motherfucker? But but but I really
bang on Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Because you I just don't like this motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
But when you're at your shows, do you feel like
the audience has changed in the last few years, Like
they want to hear you talk to your shit, And
how do you sort of compartmentalize it service them because
their customers, their fans, Like is it confusing to you?
Do you feel like you're being pressured into sort of
leaning one way? Like how do you sort of make
sense of it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Oh, it's a lot there. I'm gonna try to give
simple answers. It used to be when you would go
let's say I would go to tempionprov right, and so
you do six shows and it's Jamie Kennedy and it's
the thing. So you know, I'm from the movies, you
know from experiment, you know from this people pretty much
before COVID and really when social media took off, they

(01:06:44):
they think they're getting b read. For a while, people
just thought I was gonna come out as a character.
I'm sure you get that too. They they think you're gonna know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
You your characters are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Your character game is strong, which is something I wanted
to ask you about ship, but I don't know if
we're going to get to it. Like your your characters
are like I consider like your strongest shit. I mean,
I you're character actor to me, like truly, and I
don't mean that it looks or in the second guy
like you go into the character.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I try, man, thank you. It means a lot coming
from you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
You're you're on that shit. You know, it's a different thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
You know, it's not as I don't do that as much,
and it's a different skill set and it's a great
skill set that I respect.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
But I don't want to go down that much. If
we can, we'll double back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I appreciate that. It's basically they think they're coming in
to see that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
So it's fun. It's late.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
That's kind of my mo, right, Like I'm fun, lovable,
everybody laugh, have a good time. Kind of like you know,
we're gonna like fuck around and I'm gonna take you
to the edge, but it's not gonna be like too
offensive posts COVID.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
During COVID and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
And me being online, people are more. They're like they
I would probably say twenty five percent now come in
that are like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Speak your truth, brother, You're doing God's work. And they're like,
you're brave.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
And I was like, oh, I'm not mad, come on,
give me something sho.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And I like it. I'm about it. You know, I'm
not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 7 (01:08:07):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I get some fucking red, white and blues in there,
you know what I'm saying, and nobody hat they'll buy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
The shirt, they'll buy and so listen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I get a lot of different people in my crowd,
but I also have I saw a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Girl like a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
She had a big ass pink streak and I was
going into some gender shit and she laughed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
So you can't judge a book by its cover.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
I agree with that, alsong, And so you know, at
La Joya, I had a good and how much store.
I had a great mix of people. And at the
end of the day, here's what I want to say.
I want to only go more and more for my
shit talk, like you you know, a baby you of,
like I started a podcast just because I didn't want
to be the dinner entertainment for the Friday night late show.

(01:08:50):
Like I don't want to be the guy that happens
to be playing Applebee's. And what I mean by that
is a lot of people will come in and just
buy tickets sometimes to the place and even not even
really be invested in who they're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
And so I want people to know what I'm about
so they come and buy because I don't want to
do an uncomfortable show. But I obviously feel it out.
But at the end of the day, I'd like to
be the most truthful, pushing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
But there's times though that people get bummed out and
you start talking and I feel bad. They paid twenty
five thirty bucks a ticket, so I'll pull it back
and then I'll go and try to make them laugh more.
But there's other times where they're just about it. And
obviously it's different places. You know, Florida has a rep. Dude,
it ain't exactly what people say.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
I agree. I love doing shows in Florida. Absolutely, you
heard it right here. One hundred thousands in Florida. Like
every time I go down there, I'm like this is dope.
All day shows are dope. People are dope.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Do you go to Tampa? Brian runs it right and
it dude, he's got as many liberals as he's got hundred,
Like it's a mix and guess what it's what they
say about is not true. I agree, and so that
like size splitters, a beautiful club, beautiful room, you can
work it out and at the end of the day, yeah,

(01:10:07):
I want people who fuck with me, but I have
multiple facets day. But so just like you, you're very political,
but you're also just funny without being political. But do
I want to grow it into my real voice, my
adult voice?

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Where do you think? Where are you at?

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
How concerned are you about our strike, sack strike, Writer's
guild strike?

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Like, what do you think is going to happen here?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I can tell you some shit because I just got
had a good conversation with somebody about this and I
don't know what I can say, but I'm going to
try to say it. First of all, I love Fran.
I worked with fran what'd you work with her on?
I did a show called Living with Frank. I was
one of the creators of it. Me I named Dave
Garrett Josh Edding, and it was beautiful, and a guy
named Ryan McPartland was her lover in it, and it

(01:10:56):
was about baby, basically about a cougar. And so I
love Jolie Fisher. I work with her, So I think
we're in great hands. But I think there's a lot
going on that people don't realize. First of all, the
strike is not gonna end in twenty twenty three. There's
no way. There's no way, dude. I went by Warner
Brothers yesterday. You know the triangle where you see the

(01:11:18):
three posters. Yeah, empty with like old blue stick tape.
It looks like fucking a fucking forty second and fucking
Broadway billboard.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
There's nothing on it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
That's weird. Okay, this shit was empty. The studio doesn't
look like there's any action going on. So I personally
think the strike is not gonna stop until twenty twenty four.
I also think that people don't realize there's a lot
of stuff from page twenty three to twenty seven in
the agreement that they have not read. So do you
know this one point that if you do a TV

(01:11:54):
show and you, let's say basic TV shows are six episodes. Now,
let's say, first dreamer, do you know they have the
right to hold you up to thirty six months, including
from the day of you start production.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Yes, I know that. And do you know that's without pay? Yes?
And how do you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
It's not dope at all?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
How many people know that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
I think people in our business are becoming more and
more informed about it now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
They don't you do not get paid? And you know
that if you do reshoots that they're you're not getting paid.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
And do you know that if you get a new
job and the reshoots that you're not getting paid for,
they would be in first position to the pay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
It's it's not good. No, shit needs to be fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
And you know that also that this waiver is it
it bess that people are out doing films. Yes, they
agreed to the waiver that's on those pages now. So
by doing these waiver films, I'm saying, go do your thing.
You're a agreeing to this interim agreement, which a lot
of people don't realize is in there. So there's also

(01:13:06):
people's insurance are being fucked. Bro. It ain't good no,
And so I A don't think people realize what certain
points that we have that I don't realize that we
might have conceded on. And b it's dude, the studios
right now can fucking just make an AI of you

(01:13:27):
as a background actor and they don't even.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Need to scan the writers with the AI is more
concerning to me, Oh that's happening. That shit is crazy,
because you could take that's happening a Mockingbird one hundred
percent literally, yeah, implemented into thing. Go give me a
draft of To Kill a Mockingbird as a film. It's
already been a film. But you could take To Kill

(01:13:50):
a Mockingbird and it'll give you a draft which two
writers could work off of to break that down.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Yeah, that's wild, bro. You could put in Star Wars six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I know, and it'll give you a script and it
don't need punch ups. Yeah, it don't even rewrite. Oh yeah,
but it'll get you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
The hardest thing is to crack ninety eight. It'll get
you ninety eight pages. It'll get you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
You can say, give me one hundred and fifty pages.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
It'll give you could.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Say, give me a sequel to the Godfather.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Yeah, dude, there's a company you gotta watch on TikTok.
I don't know different. AI's not chat GGP where they
somehow I'm not explaining it right. They took south Park,
which other I think has let's say three hundred episodes,
and they did something within South Park where they did
an additional five hundred episodes within a week and new.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Storylines all this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Put it out. It could be if they wanted it.
They don't have the rights to it, but they just
wanted to show the power of their tool.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Do you understand what that is? That's not cool? Not cool? Cool?
Oh cool? Bro? Those fucking that weekend That Helium ain't
looking bad right like you might like?

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Yo, we got I mean I feel fortunate because I
you know, I don't have one stream. I do many streams.
But is acting going to be disrupted? One thousand?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Do you still write? You're a writer? Yeah? You wrote
Malibu's Most Wanted. I had a lot of help with Nick,
my boy Nick's one. But you're you're a writer. I
try to be Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I mean, do you feel discouraged by what we just
said and going forward to are you writing stuff outside
of comedy right now?

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I'm not a typical writer. I probably a lot like you,
and I'm not. That's not a this meaning like when
I go on stage, I try some things off the
top of my head. If they work, then I kind
of write them and shape them as well. I could
see probably that might be your process.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
But I'm a ranter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Like my strongest suit on stage is ranting, yes, And
it depends on the rants, you know. Sometimes I'll play
around with it and go on stage and with the
whole thing written out, and sometimes I'll come up with
an idea and then sort of go back. But I'm
talking about like films and television. You're you've written, yeah,
I have. You're an accomplished writer, well trying. I mean,
I can never write by myself. I always have somebody

(01:16:01):
helsey because it's hard to get it out. But I
have three movies that I've written.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
I've been trying to make them for eight years, and
one's a horror movie, one's a comedy, romantic comedy, and
what is like an Edgier piece, and it's just it's
a pain in the fucking ass. I raise the money.
This fucking guy fell through that. We got five half
a million dollars. My guy owns a Delian Kansas, So
you know how it is. It's like the best money
is outside of Hollywood, right, and then oh we got.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Foreign pre sales and all the shit.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
So I was in the process of getting a couple
of things going, but it's a fucking nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
So it's all discouraging.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
So that's why I just love doing my own shit,
building up my shit this way and then try to
put up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
But where am I gonna what am I gonna put it?
Make a movie and put it right on tub? Yeah?
I mean, I love Touby, but no disrespect to no disrespect.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
But it's like, I know what I'm I don't even
know what a CV series is right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I don't know what a movie is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
I think it's about our stand up, putting our clips
out and just kind of building an army of people
and then making the content for them and hopefully them
getting it out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
I agree, all right, Jamie Kennedy, banging career, Thank you,
blow way more to give.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
It ain't over.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Philly's Finest, Malibu's finest. On the road in the fall.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Yeah, I took off. I'm starting this weekend. I'm gonna
be out at Schomberg.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Where's your tickets? All, Jamie Kennedy dot Com. Jamie Cannon
got and do your podcast. Hate to break it to you,
Jamie Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Can't stop, won't stop. Never, My man, this was nope.
I appreciate it. Thank you. This was nope. Thank you,
Peace peace boom.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I want to thank my guest Jamie Kennedy for the time,
for the insight for excellent iron.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Rappaport Stereo podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Tell a friend to tell a friend to tickety tell
a about the world wide phenomenon. I am Rappaport Stereo Podcast.
Miles Jordan aked the Bleach Brothers aka.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
The Diggity Deaf Brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Take me out here with something real, Lanes, take me
out of here with something real, lad, but most importantly,
end this puppy with something real funky. See I am
Rappaport Stereo Podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I'm out

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