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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Boom have no fear of the Iron rap Wort stereo
podcast is here. Biginni Boom have no fear of the
I Am Rapports stereo podcast is here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You need joy, We need joy. We bring the joy.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Young Shooter, Dino Casino, Deuce Collins, Dino Paccino is
back on the Iron rap Ports stereo podcast. We're getting
a review of the Oasis concert he attended in Los Angeles.
Plus we are fawning. Both of us are fawning, going crazy.
We loved, loved, loved, loved, couldn't love it anymore. The
Charlie Sheen documentary on Netflix. We're talking about that and
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so much more on a high flying, fully joyous, but
still disruptive Iron Rapports stereo podcasts coming up right now.
Miles Jordan Ak The Bleach, the Brothers AKA that does Brothers.
Start this puppy off with something real loud. Start this
puppy off with something real nice, but most of it
starts this puppy off with something real funk. This is
the Raport stereo pockets need. Let's go. Baby Boom have
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no fear of the Iron Rapport serial podcasts here beginning
Boom have no fear. The I Am Rapports stereo podcast
is in the place to beat. Welcome to the Iron
Dome of Disruption. Welcome to the Dignity Zone of Disruption.
The name is Michael Rapport aka the Inflamed Ashkenazi aka
the Sultan of Sniffs aka the Gringo man Dingo. We
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wanted to bring some joy to the world. We want
to bring some positivy to the podcast. There's no better
way to do that. He's been doing it time after
time after time. You know where I'm going. He's back.
Dino Paccino, Dino Casino, Deuce Cuddles aka the Young Shooter.
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Dean Collins is with me on the Iron Rapport Stereo podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Boom, thank you man. Quite the intro there. I love
the Joy to the World. Like when you said that,
I was like, can we play the Joy to the
World song like Joy to the Like? It made me
feel so warm inside.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
We could sing it, Jiggity Joy to the way, the
jiggity Joy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm back on the pod. It feels good man. We
both were both rocking. You got your New York Cat,
I got my La hat.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You got your You got your La hat. I got
my New York Cat. I got my invisile lines in. See.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yep, those are those puppies straighters since the last time
I saw you.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, my teeth aren't it any straighter yet. It's only
been a couple of weeks. I think it's been two
weeks since I've had these puppies in, but the visile
lines are in there. I'm speaking well, and uh, we're
happy to have you back on the podcast. It's been
a crazy, crazy two weeks since you are away from us.
We know that you have explored a bunch of things
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and we're gonna get to that. We're also gonna get
to a lot about me because it's not the Dio Paccino.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And it's this is your podcast. It's not like you're
interviewing silvae Us Stallone. And so we've talked about I mean,
and not that I even look at myself that way,
but you're absolutely right. So you know, I would love
to do kind of like a we don't have to
do this podcast, but just sort of like a James
Lipton style interview with you in your career and and
I'm happy to do that too.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Great and we want to keep it really positive for
this podcast. It's been a crazy time, and I'm bringing
the positivity, and you know that's why we have you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Go, because I, yeah, I want to keep it positive. Also,
I'm feeling really positive today, and I could see it
in your eyes that you're positive, but I'm not. You're
not always positive, see that.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That's the kind of thing. When I'm bringing positive and
you're bringing that negative, I'll I won't tolerate it even
though I'm bringing positivity. Like, slap me one, shame on me,
slap me a crossed my face again. I'm not going
to be positive anymore, asshole. That's pretty much my saying.
I just I just made that up. But it's like,
you're not gonna fuck me once. Uh and then go, oh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Not gonna fuck you at all. I'm not gonna fuck
you at all, is what I'm not gonna do. But
doesn't a positive and a negative make a positive?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Maybe maybe that's no.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Maybe you just continue to be positive when I say
I'm gonna be positive. You don't antagonize, you don't poke
the bear, you don't throw things in the monkey cage.
It says the science says, don't throw anything into the
monkey cage. So what you're doing is you're throwing things
into the monkey cage and you're not respecting the sign.
The sign says do not throw anything into the lion cage.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Are you a monkey in this situation? Key, and I'm
the lion. I'm all of it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
If you throw things into the monkey cage, if you
throw things into the lion cage, you might incite something
from that animal. So what you're doing is you're like,
I don't know what you're tossing in there? What what
are you tossing in there? Dean?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm not saying I don't want to ruffle the feathers.
I don't want to fuck up the monkey cage or
whatever the fuck is all these things that you're talking about.
Let's just keep it positive. We're both feeling great.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, let's keep it positive. But I'm listening, and even
though sometimes it seems like I'm not listening, I am listening.
Downloading processing at all rapid speed. So if you come
at me with any shit, I'm gonna come back with
more shit. If you throw shit, I throw bigger balls
a shit.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I don't want any problems.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah? I'm good, you know keep it moving. We'll keep
it moving and keep it positive and optimistic today.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And you got your batteries. Because I don't want to
I don't want to go into what happened in the
last podcast, but let's fill the people in because there
was so much behind the scenes drama with the last
episode that you were on, and it was it turned
out to be a great episode, but you didn't have
batteries in your recorder. And people from all over the world,
they always say to me, Mike Crap, I want to
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start a podcast. Do you have any advice, Mike Wrap.
If I'm starting a podcast, you have any advice? And
I go Rule number one, two and three is you
need to press record. You need to have everything recorded.
If you don't have anything recorded, it doesn't matter what
you're saying. It doesn't matter how funny you are, how smart,
how insightful you may be. And on the last episode
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of the Iron Wrap, poor Stereoparks, we were blessed with
the presence of Dino Paccino.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You didn't have you didn't have. I didn't have batteries,
And I'm the first to admit it. I fucked up.
But you know what, I went to CVS this morning,
and those fuckers are on a lock. Yeah, I got
to ring the customer service button. They're walking through. I
got the big pack, so we're in business. You got
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Great. So I'm saying, okay, great because what we went
through last time put me, put the Dust Brothers through
a lot, put yourself through the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I need it, and I like to apologe. I'll take
the time to apologize to the Dust Brothers. To you,
I know you have, you know, your valuable time. I
don't want to waste that. And it was something that
was going on through my head the next few days
after that. It really fucked my head up. And I'm
glad that we just got to move past it, but
somehow we're rehashing it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
My question is how many batteries did you buy? Because
there's the four pack, there's a twelve pack, and I suggest.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Any four pack.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Don't want any issues moving forward for the future of podcasting.
I want to I want to be set. I want
to just go, oh fuck, I'm running low here. Let
me go to the cabinet. I know I have it
all right.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That being said, before we get to my thoughts, your
thoughts on the Charlie Sheen documentary aka Charlie Sheen, which
is incredible. I wanted to ask you your review. You
were so excited last time you were on the podcast
you were going to the Oasis concert. I told you
I did not know much about Oasis. I knew their legacy,
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I knew they didn't get along. You were pumped. How
was the Oasis concert? What is your review of finally
seeing them after all the drama, all cancel shows and
all the bad blood all these years.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Look, I grew up on Oasis. I grew up on
that the album you know, what's the story Morning Glory?
And definitely maybe like most people, and you know, because
I'm British that like when I went to London, my
cousins introduced them to me, and so they were kind
of the one band that I'd never gotten to see.
And I know they broke up like fifteen years ago. Whatever.
The show was amazing. The crowd was not so amazing.
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It was at the Rose Bowl, was totally sold out.
They they killed it. And I mean, even if you
don't like their music, Liam and Noel Gallagher as brothers
and just how their dynamic is so fucking crazy to watch,
and he and Liam especially is so funny. But the
show itself was so good, and it was great that
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they put their shit behind them. Obviously they had to
because they probably got paid a fortune.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
But why do you say it wasn't that good.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I don't know, it's just like it's just it was
on some la shit Like it just felt like I
was I actually bought a ticket by myself and I
sat with like four random people. We didn't I mean,
everyone was standing, but I was armed arms singing. H
I think they played like twenty five songs maybe, and
I knew every lyric to every single song and we're
just singing our hearts out. But everyone around us was
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just like kind of standing, wasn't really like vibing with it.
And then the second they get to the encore and
like Wonderwall comes on, every phone in the audience is up.
So it kind of felt like fifty percent die hard
Oasis fans and then fifty percent like fucking TikTokers waiting
for the Wonderwall song to come. But I saw, you know,
Paul McCartney, Leonardo DiCaprio, everyone was there. I saw Leo
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was filmed fucking leaving before the encore. I just I
just don't understand it. It's like, why even show up?
But they killed it And if people listening are there's
some like huge Oasis fans. I highly recommend watching the
documentary about the two brothers and their rise to fame
and their beef and all this shit called Supersonic, which
is excellent, great doc. But I feel like you would
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fuck with Liam especially. I mean, have you seen clips
of him like he's I've seen clips.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm gonna check out the doc. Where can you watch
the doc?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know where you can watch the doc. I
have no idea, but just just uh, it's a.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Proper documentary though it's about like their friction and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, in theaters, it's it's it was in theaters, but
it's if you're remotely a fan, it's great. So I
highly recommend that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I mean I love music docs about even groups
that I don't even you know, like is you know?
I mean like I'm not a Metallica fan. I'm not
a Metallica hater, but that documentary about Metallica is excellent.
The other doc, oh man, what's the name of that group?
We were watching? It all the time. When we were
doing the Tribe Coal question what you saw in Black
and White Man? The name of that band.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Solo the fucking Chili Peppers doc not that's excellent too,
the Funky Monks black and White one.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But no, no, no, no, it's man. My mom loves this
group whatever I mean, you know, like I love you.
Even the Taylor Swift documentary, like I was like, you know,
I love the process of watching artists. Even we talked
about the Billy Joel documentary, how dope that was, and
I'm not like a Billy.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Joel had same same with me. Now, I'm I'm agreed.
I'm agreeing with you. That was funny because we both
are not big Billy Joel fans. But the power of
documentary filmmaking, right, Because I don't know why you paused
when I said same, because I was in Finnish and
you said same with me. I was just I was
agreeing because I totally agree, but yeah, continue when.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I'm talking same with me, it kind of just throws
me off there, and and that's why I'm sorry about that,
are you Now, I'll just shut up. I just want
to do a nice fun out of the floor I'll no,
he keeps interrupting me. Is what it is? I keep
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getting interrunt.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm not Yeah, I won't do that again. I'll just
I'll let you have the floor and then you can
point at me whenever I should come in if you
want to do that, or I'll just let you finish
the thought.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But I was.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What you go ahead? You were what?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
No, No, you were what?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Podcast we're talking about documentaries. The Charlie Sheen documentary a
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k a. Charlie Sheen on Netflix is hashtag two winning
thumbs up. Yeah, it's I like that excellent. I can't
recommend it any high or give it more praise. It's
well done, it's honest, it's scary, it's entertaining, its heartbreaking,
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it's insightful. It's an excellent three hour documentary. It's two parts,
it's an hour and a half each. And I don't
think people really truly understand unless you've made a documentary.
This is one of these cases where unless you've made
a documentary, people don't really get how challenging they can
be on all aspects, whether it's the subject, whether it's
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getting along with your subject, whether it's archival footage, the
editing process, the storytelling, all of it, and this documentary.
I'm sure there's an hour of stories and footage that
they cut out, at least from him because Charlie Sheen somehow,
some way. I mean, one of the most impressive things
about this documentary is that he's still standing. I mean,
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the fucking guy's alive. He's truly a miracle that when
he talks about all the things he was doing with
the drugs and the sex and the HIV and the
drugs and the drugs and the drugs and the drugs
and the drugs, that he's able to even articulate and
remember in such great detail his life because the guy
has been through the ringer. Did you watch the two episodes,
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Dino Paccino.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, I mean I didn't watch them back to back,
but I saw part one immediately was like, this is
fucking amazing. I mean, it's I'm assuming that a lot
of the people listening by now have seen the docs,
so hopefully, you know, we'll dive into it and they
know what we're talking about. But like, immediately the plane
story of him with the captain and taking a photo
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and can I sit in your seat, and now he's
flying the fucking plane wasted with four hundred people sleeping
behind him, and he's maneuvering it and then they're not
on autopilot. I mean, it's like this shit is crazy.
But I thought that was a perfect way to set
up the rest of the documentary. And I mean, just
an insane fucking life, and I mean it gives you
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anxiety watching it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Totally, like totally, and the plane story is awesome, and
we are giving spoiler alerts, but nothing we can do
will be as entertaining and as enthralling and as charismatic
as Charlie Sheen telling his own story. So we could
give you spoiler alert after spoiler alert, we're not gonna
be able to ruin it because Charlie Sheen, again, despite
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everything that he's been through, is still incredibly charismatic and sharp,
and he's I don't know how he doesn't have wet brain.
I mean, I don't know how he's not completely deteriorated.
He still looks good and he sounds good, and I mean,
you're right. He tells a story about being on a
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passenger plane. Obviously he's sitting in first class. I believe
he was flying to France or Japan, and he was
out of his mind, and the pilot asked him to
come into the cockpit, and you know, one thing leads
to an another. Then at one point he's literally flying
the plane and he's drunk out of his mind. And
the first person you see, which is unusual in a
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documentary about somebody else's where you hear from another person.
And this documentary has so many great people Sean Penn.
And when Sean Penn is talking about you like you're
out of your mind, you know you're way out of
your mind. Because Sean Penn, love or hate him, has
been through it. Sean Penn has seen it all. He's
been through it all. You know, he's tried, true and proven.
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But when Sean Penn is sort of bowing down, like, yo,
this guy's way far out. When Nicholas Cage is saying
you're way far out. When slashed from guns n' roses
is your last line of defense, and slash from guns
and roses in the nineties, it's like, yo, bro, I
can't mess with you. You know your way the fuck out there.
But all that being said, and there's so many great
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guests and stories in this documentary. The first voice you
hear from is is three and a half Men co
star John Cryer, and I think it was so smart
to have John Cryer in the beginning talking about his
confliction about being a part of the film and not
being a part of the film, and he his concern
with the fact that this documentary and where Charlie is
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at as of the documentary, I believe he's eight years
sober and he's somehow some way alive, dealing with the
HIV and all the drugs. But he talks about his
personal concerns that this is going to get him back
on the straight and narrow. And historically, when Charlie Sheen
is back on the straight and narrow, somehow, some way,
he's self sabotages. But he decided to do it. And obviously,
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you know his brother Emilio Estevez, which people forget Emelio
Estevez is his brother, and Charlie Martin Sheen is his dad.
And Martin Sheen was a humongous, humongous star in the
seventies and the eighties. Martin Sheen was the star of
Apocalypse Now so many other films. He also Charlie Sheen
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had access to an eight millimeter camera and he documented
him and his brothers would make movies. And that's just
such a such a gift when you're making a documentary film. Again,
like if you've never made a documentary film, it's so
fricking hard. Like trib Call Question. I was doing the
Tribe movie. A lot of the footage and photographs and
archives got burned in a fire in Q Tip's house,
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So you know that that was like a big thing
for him obviously personally, but you know, as far as
documenting and archiving his life, so much of it was lost.
So it's just a credible that Charlie Sheen, you know,
and his brothers were shooting this home footage and you're
seeing Martin Sheen, you're seeing Sean Penn. They were shooting
home videos with George.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
No idea about that that Sean like how far back
him and Sean Penn went from, like those super eight movies.
And that adds such a fucking cool element to the documentary.
And I also just thought, like the parallels of him
and his father and their choices of film like Apocalypse
Now and Platoon, and I thought just using all of
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like the parallels of Charlie Sheen's movies to his real
life and like using the films throughout and like intercutting
them with the movies, and also like sports being a
huge part of it. Like the Michael Jordan stuff was
so crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Did you know that Michael Jordan's story.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
No, I never seen idea.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I never seen that footage. I never heard that of
those stories. Like and I've watched old Michael Jordan doctument.
I've never seen him and his dad And this is
Michael Jordan had to be after his rookieyear because he
had all his hair, because like his first year is
the only year he had all his hair, so it
had to be after his rookie year. You never saw
this footage. There was like some charity, some like weird
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ABC Sports show nineteen eighty seven was it eighty seven?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, nineteen eighty seven for a three part basketball contest,
Oh my, and like Martin Sheen making the fucking basket
like half court and and Charlie Sheen being like there
was something in the universe like higher than us, like
a higher power that day. And I mean you watch
it and you're like, yeah, I mean it really seems
like that. I mean it was I just I loved,
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I loved that shit.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Martin Sheen and Charlie Sheen beat Michael Jordan in a
two on one. Now, obviously, Michael Jordan, he could score
ten straight points on two people like Martin Sheen and
Charlie Sheen. But somehow, some way, he underestimated that Tiger
blood and that Sheen blood lineage, and they beat him
in a two on one, which I guarantee you Michael
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Jordan if he sees this documentaries to be like, I
let those motherfuckers beat me and this was videotape.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
He's that competitive.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
But that was just the beginning of the beginning of
story after story after crazy story after crazy story, and
his Ferris Bueller. I forgot that he was in Ferris Bueller.
His story about being in Ferris Bueller and not even
being on this, but just the self sabotaging and just
the bad luck, how his one day to shoot his
one scene on Ferris Bueller, how he overslept when Jennifer Gray,
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the actress, went out of her way to get him
in the film. I mean, you're just like, first of all,
how do you remember this after everything you've been through?
And secondly, just like this guy's he's just crazy, and
we forget how big of a star he was, but
when you see him on camera, he just has that shit.
He just has this magical thing, this charisma, these eyes,
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that star making quality. And when you're watching the young
footage and the home footage, you're just like boom, you
see it. And he was handsome and he talks about
he I love when he talked about you know, out
of all the reviews for Ferris Bueller, at the one
review at the very end, he goes and Charlie Sheen
is smoldering, Oh yeah, and he remembers that review and like,
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you know what that you know different, but I understand, like,
you know, that's like, yo, I could really do this,
like because he didn't know what the fuck he was
gonna be. And then he did some low en you know,
b movie that I never heard of, and then his
next role at twenty is Platoon, which wins Best Pictures.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Fucking crazy. I mean, that's such an iconic movie. But yeah,
you forget like all the movies this guy did. Now,
I think they should have focused more. They did on
part one, but they should have focused more on his filmography.
And like, I mean, he just he was a part
of some fucking great, great films and.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Major League was a humongous hit.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't even talk about major League.
They don't think.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't think they mentioned it. They showed clips a
couple of times, but I don't think the word major
League came up. And also the other film, the other
baseball film that he was in, I mean, and Walshit,
I mean, they dipped into it a little bit. He
talks about what he was making Platoon, how he signed
a contract for Oliver Stone on a napkin to do
Wall Street while he was making Platoon, which is just
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so nineteen eighties you would never get away we're doing.
That's like some sugar night shit. That's like like, oh yeah,
we signed him to death Row Records on a napkin
while he was making Platoon. And just the stories about
Nick Cage and the partying and the girls, and when
he got he got offered or he not offered. He
auditioned to be in the Karate Kid and because he
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had committed it was crazy crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Like Martin she you could tell he had some animosity
towards his father about that, with Martin Sheen being like
you gave this other production your word, like that's gonna
take you far in Hollywood, you can't do that, and
you got to turn it down, And you could tell
he had a lot of regret, but at the same time, like,
look at you know, Ralph Macchio. It's like he didn't
have those opportunities that Charlie Sheen had with the amazing
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roles that he selected, but he would have been super
fucking rich. But at the same time, it's like then
he did Two and a Half Men and became the
wealthiest like TV star, like no one had ever had
a contract, getting two million dollars an episode. And that
was the other thing with John Cryer where it was
like it was interesting to see his perspective. I think
he compared him to Kim Jong Ill or something, or
like the set yeah, but he was also like yeah,
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but he was also like, I got a third of
what Charlie Sheen made on Two and a half Men.
You could tell he's very bitter about it, but it's
also like, dude, people weren't tuning in to watch John
Cryer like they it was Charlie Sheen's show. He was
the famous guy everyone wanted to see Charlie Sheen. So
that's how it works. I mean, it's like, you know,
we were talking about that. It's like Leonardo DiCaprio is
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going to get the twenty million dollar paycheck versus whoever
else is in this new movie that he's doing. But
it's like you're selling the movie.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Period and the great I mean, one of the great
actors of our time, Benisiel del Toro. He's not gonna
get as much as Leonardo DiCaprio, nor would he think
or expect to get as much as Leonardo DiCaprio because
Leonardo DiCaprio is like it's like Lebron James Steph Curry,
like he's gonna make more money. It doesn't. There's not
no equal pay, equal rights or all that stuff. It's business.
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I just thought it was It was awesome. I thought
it was great, and we can't recommend that documentary any
any higher. I mean, Denise Richards is so transferred. I
mean the documentary spans his entire fucking life. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I thought Denise was Denise seemed like she was on
fucking drugs. To me, she seemed like she was on
drug other allegedly. I'm not That's why I said, she
seemed like it I'm not putting it out there. But
at the same time, his his other ex wife seemed
like she was taking a little something. But part one
was excellent, Part two was great. But when you get
to the fucking winning segment, I was watching that, like,
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I mean, it was just so exploitive at the time,
and like how the media ran with that and just
his all the people around I mean, he didn't have
anybody good around him. I mean, yeah, there was the
black guy, Tony Todd, who was you know, like one
of his childhood friends or whatever, who all, you know,
he was there during all that stuff, but no, you know,
and it was sad. It was sad to see Charlie
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she and be like, I wish someone during that time
was kind of like, hey man, don't do this, like
this is fuck. But instead you had all these leeches,
I mean even Chuck Lorie where they were all like,
you know, I suppressed all this shit, but it was
kind of like we were just moving forward and people
encouraging doing this war, you know, world tour, and I
mean the guy was you know, I was young when
that came out. I was twenty or twenty one. But
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you look back on it and it's just like, it
is funny to see like the shit that he was saying,
But at the same time, it's dark. It's really dark
and really sad, and the guy was on so many
drugs and they just you know, he was like a
fucking monkey. He was like a circus monkey to these people.
But it felt like watching a movie. I was like,
oh my god, this is like this is like a movie,
Like this is crazy that. It just was crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It was crazy. And also it was crazy because at
the time, the social media wasn't what it is today.
So when Charlie Sheen was doing these interviews, he was
doing interviews on ABC or NBC and then he's doing
some interview with Alex Jilons, Like it wasn't like now
where you could pick up your phone and go online Twitter.
I wasn't even on Twitter at the time, and you know,
like that was sort of the last sort of line
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of TV viralbility, like he went viral, you know, on television,
and it was It was just crazy. And obviously I
don't think anybody knew the extent of the drug use.
You knew something was going on, you couldn't tell he
was drunk or high or whatever. You knew he was,
but but it was.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
But the thing that I didn't realize now watching it
was like, yeah, he I mean, clearly anyone with the
fucking mind would could see that this guy is like
on serious drugs. That wasn't just his wacky personality. Like
you watch that now you're like, this guy is on
like fucking crack or meth or something. But the thing
that I didn't realize was the testosterone. Right that were
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and they said, you know, because I got my testosterone
levels checked recently, and you know, high is seven hundred
or whatever, right, like it's some zero to seven hundred
and and like seven eight hundred is high testosterone and
you don't want to go past that. He was taking
that testosterone where he said he was in like five
thousand range or whatever. So he just had that like
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fucking primal like rage. I don't know what was going on,
but I mean, he was on all sorts of shit,
but he was surprised that like adults weren't like, dude,
you need to get help. I mean, even Todd Phillips.
It was like watching Todd Phillips be like you know,
they were all encouraging it. They were all like really
encouraging it, and it was it was sad. It was
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sad to watch, and you could tell he's like, I
can't watch it. It's excruciating. I mean, oh my god,
I just can't imagine. I mean, I just can't imagine
how embarrassing that would be. Then, yeah, I mean he's
been through the Ringer podcast question.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Because I have my answer because I thought about this
this morning. If another person, because the Sevessa still Own
documentary on Netflix awesome, the Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary on Netflix,
it was awesome, The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix rate awesome.
If you were gonna pick, or you thought another person
that can make another compelling two camera confessional this is
(28:54):
My Life documentary, who would you choose? I have an answer.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Fuck, that's a really good question.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I mean, honestly, the first person that comes to my
head after watching this documentary and just kind of what
an enigma he is is Nicholas Cage. I would love
to see the Nick Cage doc I would love I mean,
it's still too early. I think the guy he's still
in it. I mean he's still making incredible choices, and
he's had this resurgence. You know, there was a period
of time where he was kind of the butt of
(29:26):
the joke with like his choices and just you know,
doing terrible movies for paychecks. But he's making some really
interesting choices and still killing it. So I would eventually
like to see the Nicholas Cage documentary Who do You
Have in your Mind?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I would love to see on Netflix the Bobby Brown documentary,
the Faoby the fact that Bobby Bobby Brown? What did
you say?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I said, I'm gonna probably get crucified here. But who's
Bobby Brown? Is that? Is that relation to James Brown?
Is that James Brown's brother? Who is Bobby Brown? That
could be the title of the Netflix documentary. For people
like me, we don't know who is Bobby Brown. It's
like searching for sugarman.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I gotta blame myself at this certain point. I gotta
blame myself at a certain point because at a certain point,
I gotta go, well, you brought him on the podcast,
so it's I gotta say I can't blame him. I
gotta blame myself because I'm the one who brought him on.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Is a generational thing. No, it's not a generational thing.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I'm gonna post this on Instagram with you saying
who is Bobby Brown?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
The only stupid questions are the ones that you don't ask.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I get it, I get it. I'm talking to a
man who, in twenty twenty five still refuses to watch Rocky.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's why I'm talking. I saw it, You did it?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You didn't you? Si cream?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Fuck her?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
You still haven't seen Rocky?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
What the fucking man? What Adrian? I remember? Adrian Mocker?
You didn't know sand reads a girl now, motherfucker. I
know that. It took me a long time to figure
that out, but I figured it out eventually. Fuck it's
like shit.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I'm gonna do another pickup for this, just for my
own self. If I had my choice, if I could
direct a documentary Netflix style, face the camera with someone
telling their story, I would five hundred percent want to
direct a documentary about Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown, who of course,
is one of the founding members of New Edition. When
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Solo went Crazy Crazy Crazy, Solo had crazy drug issues. Obviously,
he had his relationship with Whitney Houston, which was documented
on a reality TV show which was insane. He's been
through the ringer somehow, someway, he's still standing. And I
guarantee you a two part, three hour documentary about Bobby
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Brown and Bobby Brown telling his story if you have
act to all the footage, all the music, and all
stuff will be just as compelling, if not more compelling
and crazy as the Charlie Sheen documentary. So that's the
documentary that I would love to see. And I would
highly urge Dean when we when we end this podcast
to just look up Google and just get a little bit,
(32:18):
you know, information about Bobby Brown.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay, yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It was not a generational thing. Don't blame it on it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It is. No, it's not against because even new edition, Brother,
I don't I can't name one song. I know that
you were in the movie, and I think it's great
that you played the manager in the movie. I don't
know a new addition. I think that's like forties plus.
That's just me as like kind of a middle aged millennial.
I'm not the elder millennial. But I don't think that's
really targeted towards me. Maybe it's a cultural thing. I
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don't know what it is. But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
New addition, I don't know. I don't know that group.
And no disrespect to that group. I'm sure they're fantastic.
I think it's great that you were their manager. I
don't know that group.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But my question to you is, when you're watching the
Charlie Sheen doc and you're watching the Billy Joel Dock
and you're watching these documentaries as a documentary filmmaker, I'm director.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Good question. Just rephrase that as an award winning documentary filmmaker.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Sorry, yes, when you're watching these documentaries as an award
winning documentary filmmaker, director, yeah, are you watching it with
that perspective going, oh, they got the super eight footage. Oh,
they're intersplicing scenes from his filmography that kind of do
(33:35):
you know, call and response to his real life. That
element is so good, that's what like. Are you watching
that as a as a director? Are you watching that
as a fan?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Or are you I'm watching I'm one hundred percent aware
of the filmmaking of the Charlie Sheen documentary, and I
was aware of how great it was from the beginning,
and I'm conscious of all that. I'm impressed by all that.
I understand the the undertaking and the mountain that you
have to climb when you're telling a story that spans
thirty years and is so chaotic and crazy, like the
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Charlie Sheen documentary. So that's a great question. It's great
that you asked me, who is an award winning a
documentary filmmaker that question, because that is the fact. Two times,
two awards. I'm two for two with the awards, two
full length films, two times I was an Emmy Awards.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Are we talking all? I know it's not the Oscars, But.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I won an Emmy Award for my thirty for thirty
When the Guard was documentary about the Knicks, When the
Guard was Eating And I won a Producer's Guild Award,
which is like this close to being an Oscar for
be Trims in Life the travels of a tribe called Quest,
and I won that award. At the night that I
won that award, everybody the Producer's Guild Awards are no joke.
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Spielberg was there, Brad Pitt was there, they were all there.
I just couldn't believe that we won because I was
tripping because it was so hard to put together be
Trims in life. So that's why when I see this
Charlie Sheen documentary, a these great documentaries I was talking
about that Jerry Jones The Gambler and his Cowboys documentary
on Netflix, these are not easy things to make. So
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I'm super duper impressed as an award winning filmmaker about
these other potential award winning documentaries.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Great quest I think Beats Rhymes in Life could have
gone further in terms of the award circuit because that,
to me, that is definitely, to me, your best documentary.
I was fortunate enough to work on When the Garden
was Eden and the Juliet Lewis Hard Loving Woman documentary,
and I had an opportunity to work on Beats Rhymes
in Life when I was twenty and I had just
(35:37):
gotten back from a trip from Europe with my family,
and at the time I had a friend who was
pretty controlling, and I didn't really have the will to
kind of stand up for myself at the time to
kind of say, hey man, this is too much like
I'm doing me and back off a little bit. And
at the time I was sort of controlled at this moment,
(36:00):
and there was a moment where you had said, do
you want to come shoot some b roll or not
even bed like BCAM at this performance that they're doing
in La I don't know where it was, but Leonardo
DiCaprio was backstage. Everyone was backstage, and I had an
opportunity to shoot it and get credited on it, and
(36:21):
I flubbed it, and I kicked myself years and years
later that I missed that opportunity. So that's another lesson
for people who are listening. If a fucking opportunity falls
in your lap or someone says, hey, can you be
here at this time, don't overthink it. Don't like, get
your priorities in check, and strike while the iron's hot.
And because that would have been a fucking epic thing
to witness too, because that documentary is fantastic. And do
(36:44):
you have another documentary that's in the pipeline that you
want to do, because I do think that we need
to get you back to directing something.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Well, I am working on something. I mean in the
early stages of working on a documentary. It's too early
to announce because it's not it's not over the mountaintop yet.
But yes, I would love to make another documentary. Like
I said, I'd love to do the documentary about Bobby
Brown for Netflix. I would love that, I would do it.
I'm gonna sniff around about that. Yeah, I mean, they're
(37:15):
just challenging. The one thing about documentary filming is you
can't be half into it because they're too challenging, they're
too time consuming. To be halfway into, you got to
be all the way in the deep end of the
cold water of the documentary pool that you're considering doing. Anyway,
this was a super positive Iron Rapport stereo podcast. I mean, listen, listen.
(37:38):
We could keep going on. But I say we get
out while the going is good. I say we get
out while everybody's still positive. I say we get out
while there's no more. Uh. You know, I don't want
to say anything, and you go, oh, I just I
want to protect me. I want to protect you, and
I want to get out of here, you know, while
we're still feeling real good, real nice, real safe and real.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Say, can I suggest something on the way out? Can
I just suggest a movie? Can I recommend a movie
that I watched that I just want to say this
because I haven't seen a movie. It's been months and months.
I have not been on my movie game. In terms
of theater movies, I went to go see The Naked
Gun with Liam Neeson. Movie was fucking hilarious. Have not
(38:21):
seen a movie like this in the past over fifteen years.
This movie held up to a mid two thousand's funny
ass comedy. I was dying of laughter. Liam Neeson killed it.
You know, nobody will touch what Leslie Nielsen has done
with those movies. Obviously one of a kind. He's incredible.
(38:43):
But if you're just looking for a laugh with all
the fucking shit going on in the world right now,
I highly recommend watching The Naked Gun. It is so
dumb but so fucking funny.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's a great recommendation. I didn't even know you saw it.
I'm glad you went to see it and shared. That's totally,
totally great recommendation. And everybody needs to see things that
are light and enjoy themselves right now, because, as we know,
we are in a insane time anyway. Fantastic podcast by
the Young Shooter. They call them Dino Paccino, they call
(39:15):
them Deuce columns. Some people call them Deuce cuddles. There's
a lot of nicknames. We know them as Dean Collins,
Ak and Happy twentieth anniversary on the premiere of The
War at Home.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
This someone sent me that too. That also kind of
like made me feel my age where I'm like, wow, yeah,
you're thirty five home. Yeah, I'm thirty five, and like
we talk about all the time, I'm the same age
as when you played my father in the show and
twenty five years ago. Yeah, I know, I'm thirty five.
It's not I know you're you're pointing at me like
(39:48):
that's a bad thing. But I'm still in my prime.
I think there's still years left to me to do
some great things. And I'm excited about thirty five and
I'm excited, but I am nervous that I'm pushing forty.
But yes, twenty years since The Ward Home premiered, and
that is a fucking that's a crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Insane Anyway, I am rap Ports Stereo podcast. We're done.
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(40:27):
of here with something real funk.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
You see.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I am rap Port stereo podcasts. I'm out.