May 29, 2024 • 45 mins
Licensed therapist Adele House is back again, this time to answer listener questions with Jennie!
Adele joins the podcast to go over your listener-submitted questions with Jennie that cover everything from: how to not let social media make you feel insecure, advice on how to pick yourself up when you're feeling blue, why Jennie has taken the approach to her healthy eating and lifestyle - and so much more!
Jennie also talks about why it's so important to take "Me" time!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everybody,
welcome back to the I Choose Me podcast. Okay, so
for this episode, guess what I choose you? I ask you, guys,
what you want to know about my overall health journey.
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And boy, oh boy, did you ask me some great questions.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your personal
experiences and being so vulnerable with me. I really appreciate it.
We received so many incredible questions. As I mentioned on
my story, May is Women's Health Month. Men, don't worry,
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you're going to get your time. It's only a week.
But hey, we'll celebrate you and we'll talk about all
that man's stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Then.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So back to my ladies. I am going to bring
in Adele today. Our in house therapist, Adele House is
in the house and we are going to discuss all
things women's health. This is perfect because we've been through
all the ups and downs of being a woman together,
so it feels really right to have her here to
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do this with me today. Now, remember I just want
to say, Adele and I are not doctors. These answers
are going to be based purely on our experiences and
our lessons that we have learned from our many years
here on this planet. But this is one of my
favorite things about women, that we are always here for
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each other and always eager to talk and share what
we know. So, Adele, can you hear me? Are you there?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm here? Hi? Denny?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hi? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Are you ready? I want to ask you? No, I
want you to ask me these amazing questions. Let's talk
that way.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, I'm going to ask you and I'm so excited.
There's some great questions here. So should we just dive
right in?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, oh wow. All right, So let's start
with this one. This one is from at Mel McDonald.
How do you not let social media enhance insecurities?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Oh? Hi Mel, thanks for your question. That's a doozy.
That's a question we've never even had to think about,
you know, until these days of late with the social
media and all. I wish. I wish this wasn't a
question quite honestly, not that you know, not because of
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you mail, but because you know, it's unavoidable, right, Like,
no one is safe from feeling insecure as they scroll scroll,
scroll on the gram on the TikToker, wherever you're seeing it.
It's really hard. It's hard for me too. I mean
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sometimes I give myself a no scroll rule, Like I
don't go in and look at other people's stuff. I
just go in and post my stuff and talk to
my friends on there, you know, and respond and do
things like that. I give myself a scroll break because
it does it makes it can make you feel yucky,
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and it kind of sets a bad tone for the
rest of your day or your night, especially if you're
looking at that stuff at night right ah, before bed.
My girls do that, They scroll at night. It like
puts them to sleep. I don't know what's up with that,
but that cannot be good for you. I tell them
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not to do it, but they do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I want to add something here because I've known you
for so long and I know there was a period
of time where you took a break on social media
because it was it was too hard and it was
getting into your insecurity. But something shifted for you. You
mentally shifted and made it okay for yourself because you
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you have a business, and you have a presence, and
you are a known person, and you decided you wanted
to be a part of it. Do you remember what
shifted for you.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I don't remember exactly. I just know that at some
point I decided to embrace all of it, and through
people's comments and the stuff that I see on social
it is educating me now instead of upsetting me. I
tend to just go to the positive things. If something's
negative or something doesn't feel good right away, I just
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go right past it because I don't have time in
my life for that kind of those feelings, you know,
and I know how they can sort of derail you,
and I'm not interested in getting derailed anymore. You kind
of have to make that. You kind of have to
make that decision for yourself, Like I don't want I
don't want to feel crappy. So guess what, I have
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the power. I'm not going to look at that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes, I saw that shift in you.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And there's tons of people that I follow. I never
look at their stuff like no offense. But I don't
look at Kardashian stuff. I don't look at you know,
the things that like that that are super out there
for effect or to make people want to see more,
like I just avoid that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So this is so amazing because I want to add
to this, because this is One of the things that
I worked on with a lot of people in therapy,
and what we worked on is paying attention to your
insides when you are scrolling. And if you're only scrolling
like first trappy stuff or you know, like impossible beauty
standard stuff, you better check in and see how that
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makes you feel. And if you feel less, then then
your I don't want to say you're doing it wrong,
but you might want to look at how you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You maybe start if you start following like positive feeds,
people that are putting out positive content, body positive stuff,
realistic you know for your age kind of content. Start
following those people instead. And you know what, you don't
have to unfollow the other people. You can just mute them, yeah,
and go back to them anytime you feel like that's
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you need a little hit of it exactly. You have
all the control, though.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
What do you think you want to go to the
next one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, good, all right? I
love this question. This is from at jay a Manny.
I think please discuss the importance of advocating for yourself
with doctors. I so begged my last doctor to do
a hormone test and she refused.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
What ja manny go to a different doctor. Yeah right, Yeah,
Like if you request something from your doctor, that's what
they're there for, to give you the information that you're
asking for. And what a hormone? That's a blood test,
isn't it. So that's just a simple blood draw. There's
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absolutely no explanation in my opinion, why a doctor wouldn't
fulfill your request. Absolutely none.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, So trust your gut on that, right, trust yours.
You need something, if you want someone, you're paying a doctor,
ask them for what you need. And if they don't,
I think Jenny's right, you move on to another doctor.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I just saw today actually on social my friend and
fellow Q fifty female doctor have doctor Mary Claire, have
just posted something today on her site. If you need
a verified referral for another doctor who specializes in women's healthcare.
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There is a comprehensive list there of physicians, like broken
down by country, city, state, that kind of thing. It's
so so helpful, So be sure to check out her website,
thepauselife dot com and just click on menu and then
go to pause Care. There you'll see it. I hope
that helps.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Love that and actually it's a great segue too. We
got a ton of menopause questions, right, and you wanted
to address that, So let me let me tell you
one here, and then I think, you know, I think
you're going to expand on it. But this one I
love too. It's at kl Haydn and it's been this
person is asking what kind of conversations with your significant
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other regarding your health changes around pre or peri menopause
have you had?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
These are so good, I know, you know what. I
love these questions because they're not like, you know, my
usual questions that I get. You need to have the conversations.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do you talk to Dave about that?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Mmmmmm? Just recently, because honestly, I am still in my
pery menopausal phase, my peri menopausal era, and at first
I was like embarrassed by it, and I didn't tell
him anything, and I didn't talk to my daughters about it.
I didn't talk to my mom about it. I didn't
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even talk to my friends about it, Like I didn't
know really what was happening. I kind of did with
the hot flashes and just the feelings I was having.
We're all symptoms of perimenopausal things, and so I don't
really talk to anybody about it, but now after having
been in it for a while and having learned so
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much about it, because you know, I don't know if
you notice, but menopause talk is everywhere now these days,
like it is a hot topic, and rightly so. This
is something that we women, lucky, lucky us, yet another
thing that we go through that men do not. And
there's been so much research and science and so much
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devoted to men's health, but never any specific to menopause.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And men don't know about menopause either. That's the other
thing I don't know. We hardly know about it. Women
hardly know about it because our moms didn't talk about it, right,
And I love that it's in the ether now and
that everyone's talking about it and using their platform to
talk about it because I feel like we didn't have
any kind of mentors or models, and so now we
can model for our kids and nieces and for men.
(10:21):
I mean, I think that's what I love about this question,
that yeah, you did you let Dave in at any
point on? I mean, you kind of have to. You
can't hide hopboshes.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No, you cannot hide them. You get red, you're sweaty,
you're taking your clothes off for no reason. I mean,
Dave doesn't mind that he wakes up and I'm naked,
completely naked. All of my clothes have come off in
the night at some point yep, and he's like, Wow,
what's going on. It's nothing, Do not touch me. I'm
sweaty and I don't want you to touch me. But yeah,
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we talk about it now, and it's something that makes
me feel better. I was just on the phone having
a telehealth appointment with my doctor, doctor Brush, who has
helped me so much, and you know, we're starting some
different therapies and just talking about a little a lot
of different options, and at the end of the conversation,
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all of a sudden, I just burst into tears because
I was like, I don't know, there's some I feel
so connected to you right now, and I feel so
grateful for all of this education that you're giving me
and this help that you're giving me. Like I just
she was like, what's okay?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Cry? Honey's so sweet because it is vulnerable and you're
really letting them in and if she's helping you, it
is so vulnerable and you feel so alone. So I
want your doctor's phone number.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
By the way, doctor Julie Brush. But the exciting thing
is because we did receive so many questions around menopause
and the conversation perimenopause, premenopause, postmenopause, all the questions, we
really want to dive into that, and that is something
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that I'm excited to do. We have, like I said,
my friend doctor Haer is going to be coming on
the podcast in the very near future and we're going
to break it down and have some really great conversation
about it. So you guys stay tuned for that episode
for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I am super excited about that. Okay, So should we
move on to the next question. Okay, this is from
Er Divine or Divine twenty three and the question is
can you tell us about your meals and your diet?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
First of all, I know who you are, Hi, Okay,
I love this woman. She's amazing. Can you tell us
about your meals and your diet? Okay? So I try
to eat healthy. I mean, of course, like there's something
that shifts in you when you turn fifty. I think
your food choices all start to matter. Everything that you
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do for your health starts to matter that much more.
And so I've always been a really super healthy eater.
But I gotta say for somebody, I okay, I am
a vegan to the point of sometimes I might eat
a little chicken, So that makes me not a vegan.
I don't know what that makes me. But I don't
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eat dairy. First of all, I personally think that dairy
is the cause and the root of so many internal
problems inflammation, gut distress, bad skin as a result of that.
It's not because I'm lactose intolerant, which I have now
become lactose intolerant because I decided to stop eating dairy
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for health reasons. Now, my body when I do have
lactose or milk or dairy or butter or anything like that,
my body is like no, thank you, like it doesn't
want anything to do with it, and it's really uncomfortable.
So I don't eat dairy, and I don't eat, you know,
other animal products. I really try to stay plant based,
except that one once in a while when I eat
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a little disgusting chicken because I feel like I need
a little boost of of protein.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So you're talking about intuitive eating, right, You're talking about
that you listen to your body. You're saying you stopped
eating dairy for health reasons, right, So something was going
on with you those years ago, and you decided that
dairy was causing that and you stopped eating it and
you felt better. So really, what you're talking about is
intuitive eating. Yeah, you listen to your gut literally, right,
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if you find that you have symptoms or you're not
feeling well, you think about food first and what might
be crieta.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Okay, I mean think about it because we're putting food
in our bodies all day long, every single day, and
it's such a that's what's keeping us alive. So obviously
what you put in your body is so important. I
try to buy organic whenever I can, and I have
some really great recipes that I'm gonna start to share
on social like breakfast I did. I did two great
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videos for breakfast. One is just this super seed bread
that I It's gluten free, which is another thing I
try not to eat is gluten. And I put on
some vegan ricotta cheese on the top of that and
some no sugar added jelly and jam whatever you want
to call it. Big controversy there, and yeah, that like
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that's a great back for me. I'm a smoothie person. Though,
also like I try to pack every all of my
nutrients into one smoothie for the day. Then that way
I know, before i even go to the gym or
start my day working, I've got all my greens in,
I've got my nutrients, my Amino's, all the things, all
the things, all the things. There's a lot in that smoothie.
And I'll definitely share that again with you guys as well.
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But yeah, Aaron, just keep it clean. You are doing
a great job.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I know you.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I know that that you strive to be healthier for
your beautiful daughters, and I think you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And I will add that, knowing you all these years, Jenny,
that you I am always very impressed with your relationship
with food and how you pay attention and you listen,
and you you have in your home healthy options for
you and your girls. Like every time I open your fridge,
I'm like, oh my god, this is such a good fridge.
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They're always healthy options. You've just kind of always done that,
So I'm just impressed by that.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I try to like keep everything. We bake a lot,
but we bake vegan. We don't use dairy, we use
any kind of alternative butter or milk when we bake.
When we cook, we don't use regular flour. We use
gluten free flour. Just whenever possible to change a recipe
into a healthier option, you know, into a healthier version
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of that recipe. That's what we all try to do here, and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
What works for you may not work for somebody else. Right,
it's highly feel visualized. So so what you're also saying
is listen to your body and pay attention to yourself.
Because at nineteen, I became a pescatarian. Right, fish is
the only I'm pretty plant based, and then I eat
fish and that's worked for me for literally since I
was nineteen. Other proteins don't really work for me. So
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listen to your body and figure out, you know, what
works for you by how food makes you feel.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Right, very important? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, Okay, so let's see. How about there's a few
on diet, plant based diet, How do you manage you know,
weight gain and things like that? So I feel like
you kind of covered that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What about this one from Beach Underscore Girl Underscore seventy three.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, so you're taking kind of te Yeah, what
kind of tips do you have on fitness and mindfulness
around eating, so we can expand on what we were
just talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, when it comes to food and fitness, it's really
important to eat something before you exert yourself. Whether you're
going to the gym, you're going on a walk, going
on a hike, whatever, going on a bike ride, whatever
you're doing. Your body needs that energy. So I always
try to eat before I go work out, and I
try to eat protein right after I work out, and
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that's usually in the form of a smoothie. I just
got this thing with it's like a blender you can
take with you, you know, one of those, you've seen them,
And I just put my protein powder in there and
then add whatever plant based based milk or water whatever
I can find after the workout, and I drink that
on the way home. So my body's getting that protein
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that it needs to convert all that I just did
into muscle. That's really important for lean muscle. And you know,
that's it. As far as positive mindfulness around eating, that's
fun because you can play with that one. I find
that we just devour our food, you know, we like
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eat and we don't even think about what we're doing
or just like shoveling it in, and you know, sometimes
it's a social thing. Sometimes you're just getting it so
that you can get your mealing because you're starving or
whatever it is. But sometimes I like to play with
it and just really think about how many times I'm
chewing my food, like, think about slowing the whole process down.
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And I find that when I eat slower, chew more,
my body is much happier when it comes to like digestion,
and I enjoy the meal more. You know, it's about
that mindfulness when you are eating.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, and bringing gratitude into eating right.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Right, that's fun too.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You think about who you're with, if you're out to dinner,
how lucky you are to be out to dinner, and
the gratitude of sharing a meal with people you love
right or at home with your family, rather than just
shoveling the food, Like, actually, stop, look around, think about
I am so lucky right now to be enjoying a
meal with my family, and I'm going to slow down
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and I'm going to think about this food and either
where it came from or who prepared it. Right, So
bringing gratitude into it is just sort of a natural
mindfulness around eating.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I love that And yeah, that slows you right down
to iah that that's.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
A gay poet. Yay, let's see. How about Oh I
like this one too. Okay, this is from at Leanna Swanson.
What was the definitive moment for you to really dial
in your nutrition and exercise or do you have one?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh, Leana, I've had several one. You're as old as me.
You've reinvented yourself a few times, you know what I mean.
And when I say that, I mean like, I have
gone through ups and downs with my diet, with my body,
my body image, you know, there have been It's like
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a roller It has been like a roller coaster for me,
especially being you know, in the spotlight sometimes and having
to look a certain way and having people really critique
things that they shouldn't be critiquing. So I've had to
really have those come to Jesus moments a few times
where I don't I notice, I don't feel good. I
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feel like I don't look my best. I'm like, you know,
bogged down or puffy and all the you know, just
that have that sort of fog. And I like being clear.
I like feeling good. So when I have in the
past gotten into into those unhealthy grooves where it's just
about convenience and or eating my feelings away because I've
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been known to do that. Who hasn't. Those are the
times when you're like, hmmm, I need to get a
handle on this. I need to really dial this in again,
because it doesn't have to be you know, a finite.
It's your Every day you wake up is a new
day to reset everything basically how you want to feel,
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how you want to see yourself, how you want to
see others. So a great way for me to do
that is in the mornings to just tell myself today
is going to be a great day, and tell myself
that I love myself and I'm going to take great
care of you today.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I love that. And you're also talking about awareness. You're
talking about having awareness, and even if you're sort of
if you kind of go under a little bit and
you're doing some emotional eating, or you can even choose it.
You can say I am incredibly stressed out right now.
This is all sad. Yeah, I'm sad right now. I'm
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going to eat something for comfort. But I love the
idea of owning it and even saying it out loud.
You know, like I'm kind of eating my anxiety right.
I'm anxious right now, so I'm going to eat anxiously.
And then you just have awareness of like, Okay, I
went through a three day period of that or a
week of that, and now I recognize and understand that
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that can't sustain, right, That's not sustainable or tenable to
do that for week after week after week because there
are consequences. You feel like crap, you gain weight, you
you know, there's all kinds of health consequences to that.
So basically what you're saying is like I have enough
awareness now and mindfulness that I will check in with
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myself and even if you are emotionally eating or something,
you'll say like, okay, what's going on right? That's again
listening to your gut. What am I going through right now?
What am I feeling? And how can I address these
and not just eat to cover it?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, and then going you know, when you do decide
that you're going to make a change, Like recently, I
decided to stop eating sugar, like just cold turkey, and
I know I could. I knew I could do it
because I've done it once before, like in my forties,
So I decided to do that again.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And y'all, Jenny loves her sugar. Just say, God, you
when I met you, you were a candy girl. Candy
you loved the Remember the orange slices.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
The sugariest thing in the world, those orange slices with
the sugar on them.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh my, I would it totally put me out when
I met you. Those are the kinds of things that
you ate, like.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Here's a healthy snack.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah. But also, just so you guys know, Jenny loves sugars.
It love loves sweet treats. And you have figured out
how to have those things in a in a you know,
fruit forward way or whatever. But go ahead, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
No, there's so many ways you can change regular cane,
you know, processed sugar into You can use coconut sugar,
or you can use maple syrup. You can use honey,
you can use stevia, you can use so many things. Now,
monk fruit great. When I use that to bake with.
It's a great sugar substitute. And you don't miss it.
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Like once you cut yourself off of sugar, you're gonna
feel so good in like a week. Give it a
week and it's a drug. It's a drug. You have
to like come off of it, you have to detox.
It's like the I feel about sugar. I feel like
it's like the most addictive legal drug. Like it makes
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no sense to me because it's as addictive as heroin
in my opinion to me for sure, Like.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
There are some statistics out there that compare it to
the addictive strength of heroin.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
That is, it's absolutely true for me, definitely true. And also,
you know, coffee is another one caffeine that's also I think, uh,
you know, a legal drug that people use, but it's
not a drug. It's a bean. It's not really it's
not really drug.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
But there are benefits to cappinge too. Like I'm gonna
go to I am gonna I like my coffee and
there are there are benefits to it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
That's what That's what Dave says to all.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Right, I feel like we're we are getting on.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I could talk a long time about health and fitness
and diet. Let's do another episode.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
On that one. Okay, Let's see what else do we
have here. This one's good and it's really in line
with the I Choose Me, you know theme at Wei
Honus cactus.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Wait wait, wait, what did you just say at.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We honest underscore cactus?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Okay, okay, wow, I love this.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
How important is it to take me time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's this whole podcast is about. I choose me. It's
so important for you to have I choose me time.
I mean, there are times in my life when I
haven't prioritized my me time and I get really run
down and like depleted, right, like I don't have any
anything to give at the end of the day. But
when I find that when I take thirty minutes to
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take a bath or read or journal or just literally sit.
I know I got this from you a little tip
sit in my bedroom and look out the window.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I love that one.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Or even go outside and look out the window, or
there won't be a window when you're outside, just go
outside and just stare at like the beauty all around you,
the nature.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Right, it doesn't have to be action oriented, it doesn't
have to be active. It can be right like when
you were when you would go golf by yourself, that
was a me time. It was you, you know, get
your head clear, and it was active, you know. But
I I also am a firm believer of literally lying
on the grass and staring at the sky, lying in
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your bed and staring out the window. You're lucky enough
to have a decent or nice view and just let
your thoughts relax, let them flow in a way that
allows you to just check in, because I think in
those moments, in the quiet moments, your best information comes through.
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And if we don't do that, if you just go
through a day and you haven't stopped, if you haven't
taken even five minutes. I'm a big proponent of the
five minute guided meditation, but if you don't stop and
take those moments, you're missing so much information.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, like your intuition. Yes, you start to receive the messages, yes,
in a different way when you have that clarity in
that space.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I think people I think people are afraid of that.
I think people go, go, go and are afraid to stop.
In fact, you use to be Yeah, you wouldn't even
get I'm gonna tell on you. You wouldn't even get
a massage fifteen years ago, ten years ago because it
was too slow and you were afraid of the kind
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of that quiet time.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I didn't want to remember what was going on in
this No, yeah, no, I need to block. I needed
to block that all out.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You were like, that's a bad neighborhood and I'm not
going there, right.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I just kept busy, busy, busy, busy all the time.
And I can still slip into that mode really easily
because I love to do do do doo doo all
day long.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, but when you're right, when you don't, when you
don't stop to just take a moment for silence, take
a moment for your brain, just have a rest.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're not really missing. Yeah, I will say. One of
the good things that came out of your painful divorce,
and one of the good things that came out of
you being alone and on your own is you. And
you accepted the challenge, right, you got quiet, and I remember,
I remember where you got quiet, And you even went
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on a couple of retreats where you by yourself, where
you got quiet, which I hope you'll share at some
point with everybody. And you started to trust it, you
started to understand the value of it, and you you
started to become even more you than you were.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Just more settled.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
One of my favorite things ways to have me time.
And I don't even know if this qualifies but I
do a lot of driving every day. Like I don't
know why, but now my kids are a little older,
I don't have to drive quite as much. But whenever
I drive, I like to just have silence for a
while and turn off the radio and just be by
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myself in the car. That's my That's some really good
me time.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think it totally qualifies. If you're getting that thing
we're talking about, if you're getting that tuning in, checking in,
listening to yourself, calming down right, then it's to me time.
It qualifies, all right. Shall we move on to another question?
M okay, I love this one from at Lucy in
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Flowers three. What are some of your go to things
you do if you're feeling blue or listless? How do
you lift yourself up?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh, Lucy, we talked about being blue.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Remember, yeah, we both have it. We both have rounds
of feeling blue.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
For me and I know you will agree with this.
It's about acknowledging it, noticing that you're feeling blue, and
then telling myself, oh, okay, that's happening. I'm feeling blue,
I'm feeling a little down, I'm feeling depressed. Okay, that's
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all right, And I allow myself to be in that space.
And I probably learned that from you because you always
encourage that. Because you and I we've talked about it.
We've gone through life with this low grade depression, and
sometimes it'sol a lot worse. I think, you know, my
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depression comes and goes like kind of like a roller coaster,
like I will be having the greatest time and then
for no reason, my vibe will just dip and I'll
get blue. And I used to be really scared of
it and think like, oh, no, it's wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, you wanted to push it away, you didn't want it.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, I need medicine, I need something to stop this. Yeah,
But now I just kind of ride it out and
love myself just a little bit more. And another thing
that's really helped me is telling like whoever I'm living with,
my partner or my kids if you know they're older now,
and saying, hey, I'm just feeling kind of down today.
(33:06):
It's got nothing to do with you. But just I
wanted you to know that so that the people around
you don't take it personally, because I often found, like
with when you're in a depressed state, my family always
feels it and they want to fix it and they
worry about me, and I just kind of had to
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learn to tell them like, it's okay, I'll be fine. Yeah,
this is momentary, This is not forever.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's so smart and they know that now right when
you tell them, they know, oh okay, just let her be.
She gets herself out of it. It's it's temporary. And
you're right that I do agree with everything you said.
It is a I think it's a lean in kind
of a thing, right right. A lot of our inner turmoil,
a lot of our conflict that we feel inside of
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us comes from fighting against something. Right, So lead in,
lead into whatever it is. If it's if you're feeling blue, okay,
you know, there are so many reasons why we might
be feeling blue. Everything we're talking about today could be nutrition,
it could be hormones, it could be situationally, and if
you don't, if you fight it, that's where the conflict lies.
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But if you just go, Okay, it's one of those days,
and that's okay. Everybody has them. I love myself. I'm
going to be extra gentle on myself. I'm going to
ask the people around me to just know it and
be gentle on me, not take it personally, Like you said,
letting people in, you know, and I love. I remember
another I don't know if I was on the episode,
(34:41):
but you talked about how Dave knows that you need
a hug and it can be so soothing and calming.
Just to say I'm kind of struggling today, I'm feeling
I say to my partner, I'm feeling blue today, and
she knows immediately she just goes, Okay, Annie, I got you.
She doesn't know how to do anything, you know, let
me know what you need and I will.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I love that are what are like some of your
go to things though, specifically that we can do to
lift us up. We talked about like going outside.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I nature, Yeah, definitely, taking
walks always sort of just uplifts right being outside, being
in nature.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You told me last time to go hug a tree.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Now I will say I've been to discancel gardens a
couple of times and you might have seen me hugging
a tree. That was me. Yeah, you know. And but
the other thing is, and I think I said at
last time, like one of my favorite things is to
check out to television. If I don't want to be
in my head. And you know, it's usually a comedy,
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like I'll pop on a Will and Grace or something
and it just it just makes me feel happy. What
about you?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I love to like be with an animal, like I
have dogs. If I just look into my dog's eyes
and you know, just spend time with my dogs or
Oh the best is if you have access or can
find a horse, go hug a horse. I'm telling you,
they absorb your feelings and it's the best.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think all animals
are emotional support animals. Do you know what's so funny
is I'm fully having a hot flash right now that
we're talking about women of a certain age women's health. Yeah,
women's health flash, menopause hot flashes. I remember one time
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you and I were I had just had my hip surgery,
which I know you're going to talk someday about yours,
but you came to visit me and you brought me
like I think we had like a like a crafts project.
When we were sitting on the couch crocheting like a
couple of ladies of a certain age, and we both
were hot flashing and crocheting. Oh my god, and I
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thought I felt so happy, like Jenny and I are
growing old together. It made me so happy, like we've
met in our twenties. There's something I know, but there's
something there's something so beautiful about that to me. All right,
let's go to another one. Oh God, totally flogging up.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Take it off, take it off?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Oh I can't. Okay, Oh, here's here's one that fits
kind of like the same theme. So this is at
free Rosemead kri I Rosemead.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
How do you find ways to heal emotionally? So similar mid.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think for me it has been that going back
to just turning in, you know, giving myself that chance
to get quiet and just be with myself. That's so
healing for me.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
So again, it's not avoiding it, it's leaning into it
and not being afraid of it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Mm hmm. I mean I have done, you know, all
kinds of different therapies and different modalities for well being
and mental health and even physical health. Like I love
learning and growing in experiencing all different things. Some of
the best me time that I've ever had have been
when I did go I took a trip by myself
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once and that was just like the most healing experience
that I ever had. Probably I went to sen what
is it? How do you say this, San Miguel de
yayindo de ya yenday think yeah, yenda. Anyway, I went
there and it's just such a spiritual, like very chill place,
and I just walked around on the streets by myself,
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you know, in a safe neighborhood of course, and I
just had that me time, you know, that just solo
time to be quiet and allow myself to be whatever
it is.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And that takes such courage. I mean, especially when you're
kind of you know, you've got a family, you've got kids,
you've got a job.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You're very hard to carve out that time, carve it out.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
But also, and maybe this is just me, but I
feel I would feel scared going by myself. And yet
the value again that comes from that alone time. I
just I commend you for the courage of that too.
And also being a known person in the world, it
just seems like that that was so that was big. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Well, I mean, when you got to take care of yourself,
nothing matters. You just you'll know, you know, when you
need to get away and have that time with yourself
and do it well, need it happen.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Will you share a little bit about the modalities that
you have used, like therapy and other things.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yes, you know what, I just found my journal from
my moon what was it, Moonview moon?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh yeah, Moonview Sanctuary.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Moonview Sanctuary experience that you MA made me go to
literally forced me to go there maybe during a very
dark time, and I spent some some really intense time
there for a couple of weeks. And I just found
my journal that talks about all the different people that
I met with every day I was there at this
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place from like nine to five.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
All the different healers, right, they had to be a modality.
Do you remember any of them?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
No, I'd have to I have to look at my journal. Well,
there was talk therapy, talk therapy. There was like, so
what's the SOMA so mathematic? There was e m d
R EMDR yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
People can look that up. That's a you know.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But there was also I love EMDR. We should talk
about that sometimes. Yeah, MDR is great.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, have an EMDR therapist on to talk about the
benefits of it, because it is like fast tracking talk therapy.
It's really cool. But you have been to therapy. You've
been in and out of therapy for how many years?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
One hundred.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
And you are an advocate for it if you can,
and you can always. I know it can be expensive, yep.
But just like we, you know, we got we put
money into our physical health, we have to put money
into our mental health. And there are a lot of
low fee and no fee clinics in every city, so
(41:26):
you can always look at you can google whatever city
you're in, whatever z it code you're in, you can
google low fee and no fee therapy clinic or low
fee mental health and you should be able to find, uh,
you know, in your area, some kind of a clinic
that does either. It could be zero, it could be
ten dollars, twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Wow. Yeah, I am googling right now because therapy is expensive.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
It is. It's expensive, and you know, if you're lucky
enough to have health insurance that can help with.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
It but also cover all though health insurance doesn't do
what it should for our mental health for sure. For sure.
I wanted to talk to at Joanna Underscore, Lorraine Underscore, Leslie,
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who asked about healthy eating and movement tips for a
healthy heart. She says that she had a heart attack
at forty six, and that is young for you. But
there's so much I want to talk about around heart
health and how to help ourselves, how to know our
risk factors, what to ask a doctor for when you
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go see a cardiologist. There's so much I want to
talk about. But I want to bring in a specialist,
a friend of mine from the American Heart Association. So
we are going to do that, do that question right
by doing it an in depth dive into heart health.
So stay tuned, Joanna, You're going to like that.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So it's so important for women especially, and you have
been involved and active with the American Heart Association for
twenty plus years. Yeah, and it's different for men and
women heart. So I'm really glad you're going to cover that.
And I'm so glad she wrote that question. I'm glad
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she's still around and thinking about how to stay healthy
me too.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Thank you, Adele for helping me get into these questions.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You are so welcome.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I hope our listeners loved it.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It was super fun. I love I loved it, and
I love always talking with you about these things. And
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You're an expert well, and so many things.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
On my life and a little bit on your life.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you're my go to so and so. Being able
to share you and your knowledge with everyone that's listening
to this is truly a gift. And I think like,
because I've been so fortunate to have you in my
life and all of your knowledge and just your care,
I feel so blessed that I'm able to now share
that with other people. So thank you for allowing me
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to do.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
That my pleasure. I love you, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Bike, I love Q and A's and hearing from all
of you, We're gonna have to do more of that
in the future. And again, thank you Adele for joining me.
I want to leave you guys with this. We have
been working on looking in the mirror and giving ourselves
some much needed love. I've heard from some of you
that you've been doing this and feeling the positive effects,
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and I'm so so happy about that. I want you
to keep doing that, keep that up, keep doing that
every day. I promise you it will make you feel better.
But I want us to build on this. Since this
week was about questions, I want you to ask yourself
a question. Ask yourself, what is it that I love
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about me? Just think of one thing. I love that
I am kind, I love that I am a good listener.
I love my beautiful feet. I don't care whatever it is.
And if you don't have an answer, that's okay. Just
ask the question and wait for the answer. It will
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come if you just get quiet, ask the question and listen.
I know that I love that you chose to spend
time with me today. I am so grateful for you.
I will be here next week, and I hope you
will too.
You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hi, everybody,
welcome back to the I Choose Me podcast. Okay, so
for this episode, guess what I choose you? I ask you, guys,
what you want to know about my overall health journey.
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And boy, oh boy, did you ask me some great questions.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your personal
experiences and being so vulnerable with me. I really appreciate it.
We received so many incredible questions. As I mentioned on
my story, May is Women's Health Month. Men, don't worry,
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you're going to get your time. It's only a week.
But hey, we'll celebrate you and we'll talk about all
that man's stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Then.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So back to my ladies. I am going to bring
in Adele today. Our in house therapist, Adele House is
in the house and we are going to discuss all
things women's health. This is perfect because we've been through
all the ups and downs of being a woman together,
so it feels really right to have her here to
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do this with me today. Now, remember I just want
to say, Adele and I are not doctors. These answers
are going to be based purely on our experiences and
our lessons that we have learned from our many years
here on this planet. But this is one of my
favorite things about women, that we are always here for
(01:34):
each other and always eager to talk and share what
we know. So, Adele, can you hear me? Are you there?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I'm here? Hi? Denny?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hi? Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Are you ready? I want to ask you? No, I
want you to ask me these amazing questions. Let's talk
that way.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, I'm going to ask you and I'm so excited.
There's some great questions here. So should we just dive
right in?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, oh wow. All right, So let's start
with this one. This one is from at Mel McDonald.
How do you not let social media enhance insecurities?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Oh? Hi Mel, thanks for your question. That's a doozy.
That's a question we've never even had to think about,
you know, until these days of late with the social
media and all. I wish. I wish this wasn't a
question quite honestly, not that you know, not because of
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you mail, but because you know, it's unavoidable, right, Like,
no one is safe from feeling insecure as they scroll scroll,
scroll on the gram on the TikToker, wherever you're seeing it.
It's really hard. It's hard for me too. I mean
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sometimes I give myself a no scroll rule, Like I
don't go in and look at other people's stuff. I
just go in and post my stuff and talk to
my friends on there, you know, and respond and do
things like that. I give myself a scroll break because
it does it makes it can make you feel yucky,
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and it kind of sets a bad tone for the
rest of your day or your night, especially if you're
looking at that stuff at night right ah, before bed.
My girls do that, They scroll at night. It like
puts them to sleep. I don't know what's up with that,
but that cannot be good for you. I tell them
(03:36):
not to do it, but they do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I want to add something here because I've known you
for so long and I know there was a period
of time where you took a break on social media
because it was it was too hard and it was
getting into your insecurity. But something shifted for you. You
mentally shifted and made it okay for yourself because you
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you have a business, and you have a presence, and
you are a known person, and you decided you wanted
to be a part of it. Do you remember what
shifted for you.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I don't remember exactly. I just know that at some
point I decided to embrace all of it, and through
people's comments and the stuff that I see on social
it is educating me now instead of upsetting me. I
tend to just go to the positive things. If something's
negative or something doesn't feel good right away, I just
(04:31):
go right past it because I don't have time in
my life for that kind of those feelings, you know,
and I know how they can sort of derail you,
and I'm not interested in getting derailed anymore. You kind
of have to make that. You kind of have to
make that decision for yourself, Like I don't want I
don't want to feel crappy. So guess what, I have
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the power. I'm not going to look at that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes, I saw that shift in you.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And there's tons of people that I follow. I never
look at their stuff like no offense. But I don't
look at Kardashian stuff. I don't look at you know,
the things that like that that are super out there
for effect or to make people want to see more,
like I just avoid that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So this is so amazing because I want to add
to this, because this is One of the things that
I worked on with a lot of people in therapy,
and what we worked on is paying attention to your
insides when you are scrolling. And if you're only scrolling
like first trappy stuff or you know, like impossible beauty
standard stuff, you better check in and see how that
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makes you feel. And if you feel less, then then
your I don't want to say you're doing it wrong,
but you might want to look at how you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You maybe start if you start following like positive feeds,
people that are putting out positive content, body positive stuff,
realistic you know for your age kind of content. Start
following those people instead. And you know what, you don't
have to unfollow the other people. You can just mute them, yeah,
and go back to them anytime you feel like that's
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you need a little hit of it exactly. You have
all the control, though.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
What do you think you want to go to the
next one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, good, all right? I
love this question. This is from at jay a Manny.
I think please discuss the importance of advocating for yourself
with doctors. I so begged my last doctor to do
a hormone test and she refused.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
What ja manny go to a different doctor. Yeah right, Yeah,
Like if you request something from your doctor, that's what
they're there for, to give you the information that you're
asking for. And what a hormone? That's a blood test,
isn't it. So that's just a simple blood draw. There's
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absolutely no explanation in my opinion, why a doctor wouldn't
fulfill your request. Absolutely none.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, So trust your gut on that, right, trust yours.
You need something, if you want someone, you're paying a doctor,
ask them for what you need. And if they don't,
I think Jenny's right, you move on to another doctor.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I just saw today actually on social my friend and
fellow Q fifty female doctor have doctor Mary Claire, have
just posted something today on her site. If you need
a verified referral for another doctor who specializes in women's healthcare.
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There is a comprehensive list there of physicians, like broken
down by country, city, state, that kind of thing. It's
so so helpful, So be sure to check out her website,
thepauselife dot com and just click on menu and then
go to pause Care. There you'll see it. I hope
that helps.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Love that and actually it's a great segue too. We
got a ton of menopause questions, right, and you wanted
to address that, So let me let me tell you
one here, and then I think, you know, I think
you're going to expand on it. But this one I
love too. It's at kl Haydn and it's been this
person is asking what kind of conversations with your significant
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other regarding your health changes around pre or peri menopause
have you had?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
These are so good, I know, you know what. I
love these questions because they're not like, you know, my
usual questions that I get. You need to have the conversations.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Do you talk to Dave about that?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Mmmmmm? Just recently, because honestly, I am still in my
pery menopausal phase, my peri menopausal era, and at first
I was like embarrassed by it, and I didn't tell
him anything, and I didn't talk to my daughters about it.
I didn't talk to my mom about it. I didn't
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even talk to my friends about it, Like I didn't
know really what was happening. I kind of did with
the hot flashes and just the feelings I was having.
We're all symptoms of perimenopausal things, and so I don't
really talk to anybody about it, but now after having
been in it for a while and having learned so
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much about it, because you know, I don't know if
you notice, but menopause talk is everywhere now these days,
like it is a hot topic, and rightly so. This
is something that we women, lucky, lucky us, yet another
thing that we go through that men do not. And
there's been so much research and science and so much
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devoted to men's health, but never any specific to menopause.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And men don't know about menopause either. That's the other
thing I don't know. We hardly know about it. Women
hardly know about it because our moms didn't talk about it, right,
And I love that it's in the ether now and
that everyone's talking about it and using their platform to
talk about it because I feel like we didn't have
any kind of mentors or models, and so now we
can model for our kids and nieces and for men.
(10:21):
I mean, I think that's what I love about this question,
that yeah, you did you let Dave in at any
point on? I mean, you kind of have to. You
can't hide hopboshes.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
No, you cannot hide them. You get red, you're sweaty,
you're taking your clothes off for no reason. I mean,
Dave doesn't mind that he wakes up and I'm naked,
completely naked. All of my clothes have come off in
the night at some point yep, and he's like, Wow,
what's going on. It's nothing, Do not touch me. I'm
sweaty and I don't want you to touch me. But yeah,
(10:54):
we talk about it now, and it's something that makes
me feel better. I was just on the phone having
a telehealth appointment with my doctor, doctor Brush, who has
helped me so much, and you know, we're starting some
different therapies and just talking about a little a lot
of different options, and at the end of the conversation,
(11:18):
all of a sudden, I just burst into tears because
I was like, I don't know, there's some I feel
so connected to you right now, and I feel so
grateful for all of this education that you're giving me
and this help that you're giving me. Like I just
she was like, what's okay?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Cry? Honey's so sweet because it is vulnerable and you're
really letting them in and if she's helping you, it
is so vulnerable and you feel so alone. So I
want your doctor's phone number.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
By the way, doctor Julie Brush. But the exciting thing
is because we did receive so many questions around menopause
and the conversation perimenopause, premenopause, postmenopause, all the questions, we
really want to dive into that, and that is something
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that I'm excited to do. We have, like I said,
my friend doctor Haer is going to be coming on
the podcast in the very near future and we're going
to break it down and have some really great conversation
about it. So you guys stay tuned for that episode
for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I am super excited about that. Okay, So should we
move on to the next question. Okay, this is from
Er Divine or Divine twenty three and the question is
can you tell us about your meals and your diet?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
First of all, I know who you are, Hi, Okay,
I love this woman. She's amazing. Can you tell us
about your meals and your diet? Okay? So I try
to eat healthy. I mean, of course, like there's something
that shifts in you when you turn fifty. I think
your food choices all start to matter. Everything that you
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do for your health starts to matter that much more.
And so I've always been a really super healthy eater.
But I gotta say for somebody, I okay, I am
a vegan to the point of sometimes I might eat
a little chicken, So that makes me not a vegan.
I don't know what that makes me. But I don't
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eat dairy. First of all, I personally think that dairy
is the cause and the root of so many internal
problems inflammation, gut distress, bad skin as a result of that.
It's not because I'm lactose intolerant, which I have now
become lactose intolerant because I decided to stop eating dairy
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for health reasons. Now, my body when I do have
lactose or milk or dairy or butter or anything like that,
my body is like no, thank you, like it doesn't
want anything to do with it, and it's really uncomfortable.
So I don't eat dairy, and I don't eat, you know,
other animal products. I really try to stay plant based,
except that one once in a while when I eat
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a little disgusting chicken because I feel like I need
a little boost of of protein.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So you're talking about intuitive eating, right, You're talking about
that you listen to your body. You're saying you stopped
eating dairy for health reasons, right, So something was going
on with you those years ago, and you decided that
dairy was causing that and you stopped eating it and
you felt better. So really, what you're talking about is
intuitive eating. Yeah, you listen to your gut literally, right,
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if you find that you have symptoms or you're not
feeling well, you think about food first and what might
be crieta.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Okay, I mean think about it because we're putting food
in our bodies all day long, every single day, and
it's such a that's what's keeping us alive. So obviously
what you put in your body is so important. I
try to buy organic whenever I can, and I have
some really great recipes that I'm gonna start to share
on social like breakfast I did. I did two great
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videos for breakfast. One is just this super seed bread
that I It's gluten free, which is another thing I
try not to eat is gluten. And I put on
some vegan ricotta cheese on the top of that and
some no sugar added jelly and jam whatever you want
to call it. Big controversy there, and yeah, that like
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that's a great back for me. I'm a smoothie person. Though,
also like I try to pack every all of my
nutrients into one smoothie for the day. Then that way
I know, before i even go to the gym or
start my day working, I've got all my greens in,
I've got my nutrients, my Amino's, all the things, all
the things, all the things. There's a lot in that smoothie.
And I'll definitely share that again with you guys as well.
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But yeah, Aaron, just keep it clean. You are doing
a great job.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I know you.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I know that that you strive to be healthier for
your beautiful daughters, and I think you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And I will add that, knowing you all these years, Jenny,
that you I am always very impressed with your relationship
with food and how you pay attention and you listen,
and you you have in your home healthy options for
you and your girls. Like every time I open your fridge,
I'm like, oh my god, this is such a good fridge.
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They're always healthy options. You've just kind of always done that,
So I'm just impressed by that.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, I try to like keep everything. We bake a lot,
but we bake vegan. We don't use dairy, we use
any kind of alternative butter or milk when we bake.
When we cook, we don't use regular flour. We use
gluten free flour. Just whenever possible to change a recipe
into a healthier option, you know, into a healthier version
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of that recipe. That's what we all try to do here, and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
What works for you may not work for somebody else. Right,
it's highly feel visualized. So so what you're also saying
is listen to your body and pay attention to yourself.
Because at nineteen, I became a pescatarian. Right, fish is
the only I'm pretty plant based, and then I eat
fish and that's worked for me for literally since I
was nineteen. Other proteins don't really work for me. So
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listen to your body and figure out, you know, what
works for you by how food makes you feel.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Right, very important? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, Okay, so let's see. How about there's a few
on diet, plant based diet, How do you manage you know,
weight gain and things like that? So I feel like
you kind of covered that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What about this one from Beach Underscore Girl Underscore seventy three.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, so you're taking kind of te Yeah, what
kind of tips do you have on fitness and mindfulness
around eating, so we can expand on what we were
just talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Well, when it comes to food and fitness, it's really
important to eat something before you exert yourself. Whether you're
going to the gym, you're going on a walk, going
on a hike, whatever, going on a bike ride, whatever
you're doing. Your body needs that energy. So I always
try to eat before I go work out, and I
try to eat protein right after I work out, and
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that's usually in the form of a smoothie. I just
got this thing with it's like a blender you can
take with you, you know, one of those, you've seen them,
And I just put my protein powder in there and
then add whatever plant based based milk or water whatever
I can find after the workout, and I drink that
on the way home. So my body's getting that protein
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that it needs to convert all that I just did
into muscle. That's really important for lean muscle. And you know,
that's it. As far as positive mindfulness around eating, that's
fun because you can play with that one. I find
that we just devour our food, you know, we like
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eat and we don't even think about what we're doing
or just like shoveling it in, and you know, sometimes
it's a social thing. Sometimes you're just getting it so
that you can get your mealing because you're starving or
whatever it is. But sometimes I like to play with
it and just really think about how many times I'm
chewing my food, like, think about slowing the whole process down.
(19:23):
And I find that when I eat slower, chew more,
my body is much happier when it comes to like digestion,
and I enjoy the meal more. You know, it's about
that mindfulness when you are eating.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, and bringing gratitude into eating right.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Right, that's fun too.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You think about who you're with, if you're out to dinner,
how lucky you are to be out to dinner, and
the gratitude of sharing a meal with people you love
right or at home with your family, rather than just
shoveling the food, Like, actually, stop, look around, think about
I am so lucky right now to be enjoying a
meal with my family, and I'm going to slow down
(20:06):
and I'm going to think about this food and either
where it came from or who prepared it. Right, So
bringing gratitude into it is just sort of a natural
mindfulness around eating.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I love that And yeah, that slows you right down
to iah that that's.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
A gay poet. Yay, let's see. How about Oh I
like this one too. Okay, this is from at Leanna Swanson.
What was the definitive moment for you to really dial
in your nutrition and exercise or do you have one?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Oh, Leana, I've had several one. You're as old as me.
You've reinvented yourself a few times, you know what I mean.
And when I say that, I mean like, I have
gone through ups and downs with my diet, with my body,
my body image, you know, there have been It's like
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a roller It has been like a roller coaster for me,
especially being you know, in the spotlight sometimes and having
to look a certain way and having people really critique
things that they shouldn't be critiquing. So I've had to
really have those come to Jesus moments a few times
where I don't I notice, I don't feel good. I
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feel like I don't look my best. I'm like, you know,
bogged down or puffy and all the you know, just
that have that sort of fog. And I like being clear.
I like feeling good. So when I have in the
past gotten into into those unhealthy grooves where it's just
about convenience and or eating my feelings away because I've
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been known to do that. Who hasn't. Those are the
times when you're like, hmmm, I need to get a
handle on this. I need to really dial this in again,
because it doesn't have to be you know, a finite.
It's your Every day you wake up is a new
day to reset everything basically how you want to feel,
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how you want to see yourself, how you want to
see others. So a great way for me to do
that is in the mornings to just tell myself today
is going to be a great day, and tell myself
that I love myself and I'm going to take great
care of you today.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I love that. And you're also talking about awareness. You're
talking about having awareness, and even if you're sort of
if you kind of go under a little bit and
you're doing some emotional eating, or you can even choose it.
You can say I am incredibly stressed out right now.
This is all sad. Yeah, I'm sad right now. I'm
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going to eat something for comfort. But I love the
idea of owning it and even saying it out loud.
You know, like I'm kind of eating my anxiety right.
I'm anxious right now, so I'm going to eat anxiously.
And then you just have awareness of like, Okay, I
went through a three day period of that or a
week of that, and now I recognize and understand that
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that can't sustain, right, That's not sustainable or tenable to
do that for week after week after week because there
are consequences. You feel like crap, you gain weight, you
you know, there's all kinds of health consequences to that.
So basically what you're saying is like I have enough
awareness now and mindfulness that I will check in with
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myself and even if you are emotionally eating or something,
you'll say like, okay, what's going on right? That's again
listening to your gut. What am I going through right now?
What am I feeling? And how can I address these
and not just eat to cover it?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, and then going you know, when you do decide
that you're going to make a change, Like recently, I
decided to stop eating sugar, like just cold turkey, and
I know I could. I knew I could do it
because I've done it once before, like in my forties,
So I decided to do that again.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And y'all, Jenny loves her sugar. Just say, God, you
when I met you, you were a candy girl. Candy
you loved the Remember the orange slices.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
The sugariest thing in the world, those orange slices with
the sugar on them.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Oh my, I would it totally put me out when
I met you. Those are the kinds of things that
you ate, like.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Here's a healthy snack.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah. But also, just so you guys know, Jenny loves sugars.
It love loves sweet treats. And you have figured out
how to have those things in a in a you know,
fruit forward way or whatever. But go ahead, sorry to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
No, there's so many ways you can change regular cane,
you know, processed sugar into You can use coconut sugar,
or you can use maple syrup. You can use honey,
you can use stevia, you can use so many things. Now,
monk fruit great. When I use that to bake with.
It's a great sugar substitute. And you don't miss it.
(25:12):
Like once you cut yourself off of sugar, you're gonna
feel so good in like a week. Give it a
week and it's a drug. It's a drug. You have
to like come off of it, you have to detox.
It's like the I feel about sugar. I feel like
it's like the most addictive legal drug. Like it makes
(25:33):
no sense to me because it's as addictive as heroin
in my opinion to me for sure, Like.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
There are some statistics out there that compare it to
the addictive strength of heroin.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
That is, it's absolutely true for me, definitely true. And also,
you know, coffee is another one caffeine that's also I think, uh,
you know, a legal drug that people use, but it's
not a drug. It's a bean. It's not really it's
not really drug.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
But there are benefits to cappinge too. Like I'm gonna
go to I am gonna I like my coffee and
there are there are benefits to it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
That's what That's what Dave says to all.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Right, I feel like we're we are getting on.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I could talk a long time about health and fitness
and diet. Let's do another episode.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
On that one. Okay, Let's see what else do we
have here. This one's good and it's really in line
with the I Choose Me, you know theme at Wei
Honus cactus.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Wait wait, wait, what did you just say at.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We honest underscore cactus?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Okay, okay, wow, I love this.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
How important is it to take me time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That's this whole podcast is about. I choose me. It's
so important for you to have I choose me time.
I mean, there are times in my life when I
haven't prioritized my me time and I get really run
down and like depleted, right, like I don't have any
anything to give at the end of the day. But
when I find that when I take thirty minutes to
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take a bath or read or journal or just literally sit.
I know I got this from you a little tip
sit in my bedroom and look out the window.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I love that one.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Or even go outside and look out the window, or
there won't be a window when you're outside, just go
outside and just stare at like the beauty all around you,
the nature.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Right, it doesn't have to be action oriented, it doesn't
have to be active. It can be right like when
you were when you would go golf by yourself, that
was a me time. It was you, you know, get
your head clear, and it was active, you know. But
I I also am a firm believer of literally lying
on the grass and staring at the sky, lying in
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your bed and staring out the window. You're lucky enough
to have a decent or nice view and just let
your thoughts relax, let them flow in a way that
allows you to just check in, because I think in
those moments, in the quiet moments, your best information comes through.
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And if we don't do that, if you just go
through a day and you haven't stopped, if you haven't
taken even five minutes. I'm a big proponent of the
five minute guided meditation, but if you don't stop and
take those moments, you're missing so much information.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, like your intuition. Yes, you start to receive the messages, yes,
in a different way when you have that clarity in
that space.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I think people I think people are afraid of that.
I think people go, go, go and are afraid to stop.
In fact, you use to be Yeah, you wouldn't even
get I'm gonna tell on you. You wouldn't even get
a massage fifteen years ago, ten years ago because it
was too slow and you were afraid of the kind
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of that quiet time.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I didn't want to remember what was going on in
this No, yeah, no, I need to block. I needed
to block that all out.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You were like, that's a bad neighborhood and I'm not
going there, right.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I just kept busy, busy, busy, busy all the time.
And I can still slip into that mode really easily
because I love to do do do doo doo all
day long.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, but when you're right, when you don't, when you
don't stop to just take a moment for silence, take
a moment for your brain, just have a rest.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
You're not really missing. Yeah, I will say. One of
the good things that came out of your painful divorce,
and one of the good things that came out of
you being alone and on your own is you. And
you accepted the challenge, right, you got quiet, and I remember,
I remember where you got quiet, And you even went
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on a couple of retreats where you by yourself, where
you got quiet, which I hope you'll share at some
point with everybody. And you started to trust it, you
started to understand the value of it, and you you
started to become even more you than you were.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Just more settled.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
One of my favorite things ways to have me time.
And I don't even know if this qualifies but I
do a lot of driving every day. Like I don't
know why, but now my kids are a little older,
I don't have to drive quite as much. But whenever
I drive, I like to just have silence for a
while and turn off the radio and just be by
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myself in the car. That's my That's some really good
me time.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think it totally qualifies. If you're getting that thing
we're talking about, if you're getting that tuning in, checking in,
listening to yourself, calming down right, then it's to me time.
It qualifies, all right. Shall we move on to another question?
M okay, I love this one from at Lucy in
(31:18):
Flowers three. What are some of your go to things
you do if you're feeling blue or listless? How do
you lift yourself up?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh, Lucy, we talked about being blue.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Remember, yeah, we both have it. We both have rounds
of feeling blue.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
For me and I know you will agree with this.
It's about acknowledging it, noticing that you're feeling blue, and
then telling myself, oh, okay, that's happening. I'm feeling blue,
I'm feeling a little down, I'm feeling depressed. Okay, that's
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all right, And I allow myself to be in that space.
And I probably learned that from you because you always
encourage that. Because you and I we've talked about it.
We've gone through life with this low grade depression, and
sometimes it'sol a lot worse. I think, you know, my
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depression comes and goes like kind of like a roller coaster,
like I will be having the greatest time and then
for no reason, my vibe will just dip and I'll
get blue. And I used to be really scared of
it and think like, oh, no, it's wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, you wanted to push it away, you didn't want it.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, I need medicine, I need something to stop this. Yeah,
But now I just kind of ride it out and
love myself just a little bit more. And another thing
that's really helped me is telling like whoever I'm living with,
my partner or my kids if you know they're older now,
and saying, hey, I'm just feeling kind of down today.
(33:06):
It's got nothing to do with you. But just I
wanted you to know that so that the people around
you don't take it personally, because I often found, like
with when you're in a depressed state, my family always
feels it and they want to fix it and they
worry about me, and I just kind of had to
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learn to tell them like, it's okay, I'll be fine. Yeah,
this is momentary, This is not forever.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's so smart and they know that now right when
you tell them, they know, oh okay, just let her be.
She gets herself out of it. It's it's temporary. And
you're right that I do agree with everything you said.
It is a I think it's a lean in kind
of a thing, right right. A lot of our inner turmoil,
a lot of our conflict that we feel inside of
(33:57):
us comes from fighting against something. Right, So lead in,
lead into whatever it is. If it's if you're feeling blue, okay,
you know, there are so many reasons why we might
be feeling blue. Everything we're talking about today could be nutrition,
it could be hormones, it could be situationally, and if
you don't, if you fight it, that's where the conflict lies.
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But if you just go, Okay, it's one of those days,
and that's okay. Everybody has them. I love myself. I'm
going to be extra gentle on myself. I'm going to
ask the people around me to just know it and
be gentle on me, not take it personally, Like you said,
letting people in, you know, and I love. I remember
another I don't know if I was on the episode,
(34:41):
but you talked about how Dave knows that you need
a hug and it can be so soothing and calming.
Just to say I'm kind of struggling today, I'm feeling
I say to my partner, I'm feeling blue today, and
she knows immediately she just goes, Okay, Annie, I got you.
She doesn't know how to do anything, you know, let
me know what you need and I will.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I love that are what are like some of your
go to things though, specifically that we can do to
lift us up. We talked about like going outside.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I nature, Yeah, definitely, taking
walks always sort of just uplifts right being outside, being
in nature.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
You told me last time to go hug a tree.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Now I will say I've been to discancel gardens a
couple of times and you might have seen me hugging
a tree. That was me. Yeah, you know. And but
the other thing is, and I think I said at
last time, like one of my favorite things is to
check out to television. If I don't want to be
in my head. And you know, it's usually a comedy,
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like I'll pop on a Will and Grace or something
and it just it just makes me feel happy. What
about you?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I love to like be with an animal, like I
have dogs. If I just look into my dog's eyes
and you know, just spend time with my dogs or
Oh the best is if you have access or can
find a horse, go hug a horse. I'm telling you,
they absorb your feelings and it's the best.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think all animals
are emotional support animals. Do you know what's so funny
is I'm fully having a hot flash right now that
we're talking about women of a certain age women's health. Yeah,
women's health flash, menopause hot flashes. I remember one time
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you and I were I had just had my hip surgery,
which I know you're going to talk someday about yours,
but you came to visit me and you brought me
like I think we had like a like a crafts project.
When we were sitting on the couch crocheting like a
couple of ladies of a certain age, and we both
were hot flashing and crocheting. Oh my god, and I
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thought I felt so happy, like Jenny and I are
growing old together. It made me so happy, like we've
met in our twenties. There's something I know, but there's
something there's something so beautiful about that to me. All right,
let's go to another one. Oh God, totally flogging up.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Take it off, take it off?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Oh I can't. Okay, Oh, here's here's one that fits
kind of like the same theme. So this is at
free Rosemead kri I Rosemead.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
How do you find ways to heal emotionally? So similar mid.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think for me it has been that going back
to just turning in, you know, giving myself that chance
to get quiet and just be with myself. That's so
healing for me.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
So again, it's not avoiding it, it's leaning into it
and not being afraid of it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Mm hmm. I mean I have done, you know, all
kinds of different therapies and different modalities for well being
and mental health and even physical health. Like I love
learning and growing in experiencing all different things. Some of
the best me time that I've ever had have been
when I did go I took a trip by myself
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once and that was just like the most healing experience
that I ever had. Probably I went to sen what
is it? How do you say this, San Miguel de
yayindo de ya yenday think yeah, yenda. Anyway, I went
there and it's just such a spiritual, like very chill place,
and I just walked around on the streets by myself,
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you know, in a safe neighborhood of course, and I
just had that me time, you know, that just solo
time to be quiet and allow myself to be whatever
it is.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And that takes such courage. I mean, especially when you're
kind of you know, you've got a family, you've got kids,
you've got a job.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
You're very hard to carve out that time, carve it out.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
But also, and maybe this is just me, but I
feel I would feel scared going by myself. And yet
the value again that comes from that alone time. I
just I commend you for the courage of that too.
And also being a known person in the world, it
just seems like that that was so that was big. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Well, I mean, when you got to take care of yourself,
nothing matters. You just you'll know, you know, when you
need to get away and have that time with yourself
and do it well, need it happen.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Will you share a little bit about the modalities that
you have used, like therapy and other things.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yes, you know what, I just found my journal from
my moon what was it, Moonview moon?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh yeah, Moonview Sanctuary.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Moonview Sanctuary experience that you MA made me go to
literally forced me to go there maybe during a very
dark time, and I spent some some really intense time
there for a couple of weeks. And I just found
my journal that talks about all the different people that
I met with every day I was there at this
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place from like nine to five.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
All the different healers, right, they had to be a modality.
Do you remember any of them?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
No, I'd have to I have to look at my journal. Well,
there was talk therapy, talk therapy. There was like, so
what's the SOMA so mathematic? There was e m d
R EMDR yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
People can look that up. That's a you know.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
But there was also I love EMDR. We should talk
about that sometimes. Yeah, MDR is great.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, have an EMDR therapist on to talk about the
benefits of it, because it is like fast tracking talk therapy.
It's really cool. But you have been to therapy. You've
been in and out of therapy for how many years?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
One hundred.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
And you are an advocate for it if you can,
and you can always. I know it can be expensive, yep.
But just like we, you know, we got we put
money into our physical health, we have to put money
into our mental health. And there are a lot of
low fee and no fee clinics in every city, so
(41:26):
you can always look at you can google whatever city
you're in, whatever z it code you're in, you can
google low fee and no fee therapy clinic or low
fee mental health and you should be able to find, uh,
you know, in your area, some kind of a clinic
that does either. It could be zero, it could be
ten dollars, twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Wow. Yeah, I am googling right now because therapy is expensive.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
It is. It's expensive, and you know, if you're lucky
enough to have health insurance that can help with.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
It but also cover all though health insurance doesn't do
what it should for our mental health for sure. For sure.
I wanted to talk to at Joanna Underscore, Lorraine Underscore, Leslie,
(42:17):
who asked about healthy eating and movement tips for a
healthy heart. She says that she had a heart attack
at forty six, and that is young for you. But
there's so much I want to talk about around heart
health and how to help ourselves, how to know our
risk factors, what to ask a doctor for when you
(42:41):
go see a cardiologist. There's so much I want to
talk about. But I want to bring in a specialist,
a friend of mine from the American Heart Association. So
we are going to do that, do that question right
by doing it an in depth dive into heart health.
So stay tuned, Joanna, You're going to like that.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
So it's so important for women especially, and you have
been involved and active with the American Heart Association for
twenty plus years. Yeah, and it's different for men and
women heart. So I'm really glad you're going to cover that.
And I'm so glad she wrote that question. I'm glad
(43:21):
she's still around and thinking about how to stay healthy
me too.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Thank you, Adele for helping me get into these questions.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
You are so welcome.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I hope our listeners loved it.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
It was super fun. I love I loved it, and
I love always talking with you about these things. And
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You're an expert well, and so many things.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
On my life and a little bit on your life.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, you're my go to so and so. Being able
to share you and your knowledge with everyone that's listening
to this is truly a gift. And I think like,
because I've been so fortunate to have you in my
life and all of your knowledge and just your care,
I feel so blessed that I'm able to now share
that with other people. So thank you for allowing me
(44:06):
to do.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
That my pleasure. I love you, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Bike, I love Q and A's and hearing from all
of you, We're gonna have to do more of that
in the future. And again, thank you Adele for joining me.
I want to leave you guys with this. We have
been working on looking in the mirror and giving ourselves
some much needed love. I've heard from some of you
that you've been doing this and feeling the positive effects,
(44:33):
and I'm so so happy about that. I want you
to keep doing that, keep that up, keep doing that
every day. I promise you it will make you feel better.
But I want us to build on this. Since this
week was about questions, I want you to ask yourself
a question. Ask yourself, what is it that I love
(44:56):
about me? Just think of one thing. I love that
I am kind, I love that I am a good listener.
I love my beautiful feet. I don't care whatever it is.
And if you don't have an answer, that's okay. Just
ask the question and wait for the answer. It will
(45:18):
come if you just get quiet, ask the question and listen.
I know that I love that you chose to spend
time with me today. I am so grateful for you.
I will be here next week, and I hope you
will too.
Host
Jennie Garth
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