December 4, 2024 • 18 mins
We're back with the Genta siblings for a previously unreleased and juicy conversation. Vale and Sebastian Genta share what it was like to be some of the first influencers, the shfits in the social media landscape, being cancelled, and the mob mentality.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Greetings or links, and welcome back to in our own world.
Join us as we open up the onboard vault and
share an unreleased part of our amazing conversation with Valet
and Sebastian Gent to buckle in and prepare for Reorbit
being canceled.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Definitely in the thought. But I feel like, I don't say,
like crazy stuff, but if there is like phases of life,
like during COVID and stuff where I feel like people
were getting canceled.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Lefty happy Birthday, Yeah, like I remember people got mad
for your celebraty fourth of July that year, and I
was like, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Jem and I have had some fights also, to be honest,
where it's like, you know, look at her fight.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
It's never violet. It was like, this is weird, all
these random people following me. I'm like, don't be stupid.
I'm like, we can like monetize.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I love the worst. It was always and I was like,
I just want to be in high school, Like.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's embarrassing that I'm in high school and I have
one hundred thousand follers.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I'm like to who oh.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, you're pretty.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Of course you post and people are going to pay
you like hunt and you try to wake up and
plan your fucking post for the next month and then tell.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Me if you've got to be in here and make
up and be.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Good and be in a good mood and girl, come u.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
L okay.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
How about how do you balance something like privacy when
you're sharing so much of yourselves and your family online?
Is that something that you guys value.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think that's something that we've learned over time. We've
been doing this for so long that I think in
the beginning I was like share, share, like share everything,
but then along with that comes opinions, and then you know,
comes angry people or whatever, like opinions that are not
asked for. And so I think the more that that
happened to me, the more I realize I'm going to
(01:49):
pick and choose what I share and like, for example,
like I feel like my relationship with Ben a lot
my fiance, I don't really share that much he's on there,
but like I'm not going to be talking about us
online because like this is like weird and maybe a
little woo woo, But like I do feel like the
energy that you get from someone could like come to
(02:10):
you physically.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh yeah, even online, even.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Online, like if you if I'm reading a message like
I hate message online, Like I'm like, oh, I don't
want that energy, Like I just don't want that, and
especially not in my relationship that I work so hard on,
like to be good and healthy and everything. So I
think that's one of the main things I try not
to share too much, Yeah, because I just don't care
about people's opinions, Like it's.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Just like it's nice to have something for yourself exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Not everything needs to be public, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
And unfortunately balancing the fact that this is part of
our job now in the entertainment world, the fact that
we are that filter that call under for what we
actually choose to share. I struggle with that all the time. Yeah,
Jem and I have had some fights also, to be honest,
where it's like, you know, look at her fight. It's
(02:56):
never no but about you know, you have power and
using the internet. It's tough because also, yeah, my private
life is my private life. But also if there's something
going on in the world that I feel needs to
be spoken about, if I don't add my voice to
that pot, like.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
What's your responsibility?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, a very weird middle ground that you need to
I like, I'm I'm I just started a podcast with
this girl who is.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
On a reality show what's the name plug is.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Called Don't Be Ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
She asked me to do it like six months ago,
and I was like, I don't know because of this,
like I feel like I'm like so filtered online and
now it's like a podcast is different. Yeah, you're really
talking again. You can edit it after, but I've already
kind of gotten burnt by the like fire of what
I've said in the it's only been three episodes.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Different than a picture of your hot ass acts, but
I can say are so hot.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So part of me is like, no, let people know
your personality. Don't just post like sexy picks, you know,
like be yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Because he has such a good personal and he's so funny.
It's like I think it's such a good way of
showing that side of him. But also you need to
be careful.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You need to be careful because you don't know what
you might say that miss might piss somebody off, or
you know, nain dropping of like just little things or like.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
We're here, like right now, the cameras are on we're
having this conversation. Yeah, we're not thinking of the implication
of what this conversation going after who.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Might have upset or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And you never do it with that intent, of course,
but it just happens sometimes and unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, and you can't please everybody, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So I'm not here to like please everybody, but I think, yeah,
to just be weary.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Of Like are you both afraid of being canceled?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm afraid because I feel like some of my comments
may be taken offensively when it's not an offensive thing.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But do you believe like do you do you stand
behind them?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
I think I'm joking a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, and they don't get your humor exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, No, it's true. But there it's like some like
you have to be careful.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You have to be.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Careful, like you know how we were in high school,
like so direct and so honest and like it didn't
Those are different times though, like ten years ago, like now,
things are different and.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
You just have to be more careful with what you say.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, being canceled definitely in the thought. But I
feel like I don't take like crazy stuff. But there
is like phases of life, like during COVID and stuff
where I feel like people were getting canceled Lefty.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Happy Birthday, Yeah, like the I remember people got mad
for your celebrating fourth.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Of July that year, and I was like, I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like those type of things. I'm like, oh my god,
it's like anxiety. It's like did I post something wrong?
Did I do something wrong?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Like dms?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like when I open like.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So to like put it into contacts.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
On our last podcast, we obviously had to address the
election and the presidency, and we didn't sway either way
on purpose. We were just like, you know, this is
what happened, like yeah, like the factual just report and
then I check our DMS and it's a long ass
message from this girl. Yeah, she's just like, you know,
it's very ballsy to even bring up politics, especially when
(06:01):
you just started a podcast, like I gave you guys
a chance, and now yeah, like upset, even though we
never really said yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Because I was like, I don't know, just the fact
that you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We bought it up, and maybe your tone was like
a little one way.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I mean it was yeah, it is like he went unfortunately, well,
you couldn't cut.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That out, yeah, said unfortunately, and you you left them, Yeah,
because I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Listen, our first season, we would create, we would perform
surgery on our I swear to you. Always said, Aunt
always said, oh you're nervous. You don't ever want to
misrepresent yourself totally. You never say it with the purpose
of offending anybody. And we we live in this like
(06:47):
post cancel culture world where we've seen people be completely
torn down by something that they said fifteen years which
is crazy, Like you can't hold this, hold somebody to
what they believed today. If they committed an error, they
should absolutely atone for it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But like accountability, guys.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You are at sixteen is not.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Accountability is so big. Like I can be the first
person to say that I've said things that are probably
horrible against my own Cuban culture everything just merely because
I didn't know what I was even.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Talking about, yes, like how deep it was exactly regurgitating
things that people that I want to be friends with
think are funny, and then as a result, I then
have to think are funny or whatnot?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
But I do think, at least from my perspective, which
is what I struggle with because I grew up in
a world where old Hollywood, what my parents went through
is way different than now. We're not talking about Instagram,
we're talking about paparazzi, we're talking about interviews. We're still
people would be like, oh shit, I said that interview.
For me, I think that the hardest thing is like
standing by what I know, because I feel the same way.
(07:50):
I would never want to hurt somebody accidentally. But if
I do, still standing behind what I think is right,
I'm like, all right, that's your problem.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Like I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
This planet is too freaking weird. That's why we're out
here or somewhere else, you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Know, exactly.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Because I also wish people were more curious, you know,
like rather than attack somebody, because that's another thing this
happened to us in the beginning of the podcast to
(08:31):
not anymore, thank god, as much. I think people like
know what to expect now, but they would watch like
a one minute clip and make gross assumption.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Right, It's like, this is.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
A forty five minute episode. This is meant to be
a clickbait for you, so want to click on and
hopefully if you are engaging with the material then go
listen to the full episode. But I wish that people
instead of like jumping the gun and drawing conclusions from
like what's obviously a thirty second clip, they'd be like, hey,
you know what, even if it's valid, right, like Sebastian,
(09:02):
you said this thing that I'm not sure if I
interpreted it the right way, maybe it rub me the
wrong way. Is that what you met? Is that what
you meant? Or can you clarify? No, we're just like
putting people on crossing have those conversations.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
People can't have conversations anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I also think that not everyone, but a lot of
people aren't even offended or outraged by what it is
they're saying. They're just so excited to cancel someone that's
really true, and it's I'm like, you did that really
hurt your feelings?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Just like Gemeny's is something that is and once it
catches on like your screws.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And it's comforting, and yeah, I want to be a
part of a group.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I want to be the man.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, mentality on the internet is very scary, you know,
and yeah, the cancel culture, so I think, yeah, you
just see to chat lightly and again coming from all
of us. I don't think anyone's looking to offend or
trying to be controversial. It's just more, you know, sometimes
we're human, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
And on the side of controversy, you know, because it
happens to us all the time when we're like measuring
our words. I also I'm trying to I'm not a
master at this in any way, but I often try to,
like ask myself, I'm like, if this that I really
feel right, like I've I've measured my words. This is
actually how I feel I'm properly representing myself. If this
alienates me from a certain kind of audience, that's not
(10:18):
my audiences.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I don't want yeah, love you best of loved to you.
I hope you wish me ill because I don't wish
you ill. But we're not for each other. Consume somebody
else's meeting.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Not every brand, not every person is meant to appeal
to you.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Which is fine, So unfollow me, don't DM me hate
I know, and it's just like go away.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
But it has this girl, this one girl who's been
following her for years and just sends me messages.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
But it's like funny, honest. It that one girl that
just continuously sends.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
The religious Yeah, it's always don't worry, I have a
religious online.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Oh okay, he loves them.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
She has this Sati scammel.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Oh my god. Well, you guys have been doing this
for for so many years. What do you think is because,
I mean the world has changed so much. We have
freaking Tesla robots now, I know you're right, we don't
we don't, But what do you what do you perceive
as like the largest or the biggest change in like
the influencer creator landscape since you started.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I think people now, like then, people believed you waymore now,
like your audience doesn't believe anything you say because there's
so many influencers now, and there's so many people trying
to sell you something that everyone like. And now the
entire audience thinks that you're just trying to sell them something,
or that you don't believe in what you're talking about
(11:54):
or something like that, because the Internet is such a
fake place, and so I feel like that's changed a lot.
In the beginning, you can be like this guy's purple,
and I was like, oh yeah, this guy's purple. Now it's
like I'm like I swear I love this product, and
then your life right, and I'm like, I'm not getting
paid for this, like I swear, I'm like I actually
like it's hard to like, Yeah, that's changed a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I think the public is a lot more intelligents, Like
consumers are.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Smarter, you know, and they know the interface more exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
That's a bad thing for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, they're just smarter and more weary of what
they're being sold and whatnot. So I think yeah, and
also as a creator, you're way more cognizant of what
you're selling, right because you're you want to sell something
you believe in, work with a brand that you feel passionate.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I feel like in day one out they're like, sell
the pencil. I'm like, I'll sell the like.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Anything for a dollar.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
My god, this is they're paying me amazing. I mean
it's a real but it's actually work, Like I need
to pay my bills, you know, Like I don't think
people understand that, but you do have to get like
more picky about what you work with.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
When Ballet started getting like followers in the beginning, this
was not a career, you know what I mean, it
was like yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Was like a vine like it was and violet. It
was like, this is weird all these random people following me.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I like, don't be stupid.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I'm like, we can like monetize.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I love the worst. It was always and I was like,
I just want to be in high school.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's embarrassing that I'm in high school and I have
one hundred thousand dollars. I'm like to who I'm like,
because obviously people were like talking ship whatever, like, but
I'm like, okay, And I remember I.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Think it was like pop tart. The first thing was
my first friend.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
It was like, no, way, that's amazing, amazing, like four mines.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I paid me like eight hundred bucks, which at the
time not enough.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Imagine your ship for eight hundred bucks is like eight
hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was like, this is it pop tart? And you
said that's not enough.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Imagine, but I remember eight hundred bucks when you're in
high school. It was amazing. Yeah, So it was just
and then I think you realized like, oh, like we
can't do something, and that's.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Like where the whole thing came from. But it was
really funny in the beginning. She was like not about it.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Also like you guys work your ass off, and I
feel people don't realize misrepresentation about people that happen to
be pretty, like y'all that are online, you know to
be real because people say, oh, yeah you're talented, but
you're a nipple baby, Like of course you are. Your
parents this.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
There's always something Oh yeah you're pretty.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Of course you post and people are gonna pay you.
Like hunting, you try to wake up and plan your
fucking post for the next month and then tell me.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
If you've got to be in hair and make up
and be good and.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Be in a good mood.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
A girl, come be on camera. Be creative, think of
something that a thousand other influencers in my How.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Do you do that?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
How do you what's your guys CREATI.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean I have to say, like he's the more
creative one. Like to give you an example, the Idea
brand was like, oh, you need to write up a
concept before we give you this offer. Like, you need
to write up a concept and then we'll see if
we like you got the job.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Pitch.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I called him. I'm like, can you grab me pitch?
Thirty minutes later he wrote me this insane, amazing concept.
I was like amazing and like I got it. So
it's like we work with each other a a lot
in that way, Like I think we're both creative, but
you're definitely better at putting it on paper.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah again, but it's hard, like she said, like there's
so much creativity and it's such a saturated space. Now
I feel like we feel a lot more confident in
Miami than we did in LA.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Though.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Why is that LA is much.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
More saturated one with creators, Like there was so many
like cont talent whatever, and we also weren't from there.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Miami feels like our home city, Like we just feel
like much more comfortable here, and so there's just there
was much less of a present here.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Now Miami is.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Like has changed change now.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I say that with a you know, grain of salt. Now,
I think the influencer space, we feel.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
More at home here. Obviously, being in LA we felt
so out of our comfort zone, which is good, but
at the same time, like we didn't know anyone, Like
people are mean there. Yeah, I hate you can't do it.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Everybody's there that you I'm already five two, it's enough.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I can't keep up.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
La.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Last me, when I went to a restaurant and I
was trying to order a dish, Oh my god, and
they they refused to call the dish by like what
it was. They wanted me. They wanted me to order
it by like the name they gave this.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You are beautiful gratitude.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I am, Oh, I am.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
They were like, hey, can we have the noodles?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Are like, do you mean the Bliss Joy or I
was like, no, we want.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
The fucking Kelp noodles.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm like, voice is not for mic.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
We're woo woo, but we're not woo wa Okay, We're
not going to fucking have the Oracle of Joy when
we really want to muffin please.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, I went there a few times. I went there
a few times. Is good, but yeah, but it's also
thirty dollars for a month.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
And the guy was sorry, it's not about gratitude.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Sorry, it's called the Awakening. No, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, that's not my that's not my vibe. I'd rather
go to like, you know, like the Rundown Plate.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Going to cross Road.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Can I have a Billie Eyelids where we can have
fucking perogis and all that vegan ship that we love.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I know they do have.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Good food, and that's what you guys do well, Vegetarian.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
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Don't worry, you could say that here
Greetings or links, and welcome back to in our own world.
Join us as we open up the onboard vault and
share an unreleased part of our amazing conversation with Valet
and Sebastian Gent to buckle in and prepare for Reorbit
being canceled.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Definitely in the thought. But I feel like, I don't say,
like crazy stuff, but if there is like phases of life,
like during COVID and stuff where I feel like people
were getting canceled.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Lefty happy Birthday, Yeah, like I remember people got mad
for your celebraty fourth of July that year, and I
was like, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Jem and I have had some fights also, to be honest,
where it's like, you know, look at her fight.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
It's never violet. It was like, this is weird, all
these random people following me. I'm like, don't be stupid.
I'm like, we can like monetize.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I love the worst. It was always and I was like,
I just want to be in high school, Like.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's embarrassing that I'm in high school and I have
one hundred thousand follers.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
I'm like to who oh.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, you're pretty.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Of course you post and people are going to pay
you like hunt and you try to wake up and
plan your fucking post for the next month and then tell.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Me if you've got to be in here and make
up and be.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Good and be in a good mood and girl, come u.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
L okay.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
How about how do you balance something like privacy when
you're sharing so much of yourselves and your family online?
Is that something that you guys value.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think that's something that we've learned over time. We've
been doing this for so long that I think in
the beginning I was like share, share, like share everything,
but then along with that comes opinions, and then you know,
comes angry people or whatever, like opinions that are not
asked for. And so I think the more that that
happened to me, the more I realize I'm going to
(01:49):
pick and choose what I share and like, for example,
like I feel like my relationship with Ben a lot
my fiance, I don't really share that much he's on there,
but like I'm not going to be talking about us
online because like this is like weird and maybe a
little woo woo, But like I do feel like the
energy that you get from someone could like come to
(02:10):
you physically.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh yeah, even online, even.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Online, like if you if I'm reading a message like
I hate message online, Like I'm like, oh, I don't
want that energy, Like I just don't want that, and
especially not in my relationship that I work so hard on,
like to be good and healthy and everything. So I
think that's one of the main things I try not
to share too much, Yeah, because I just don't care
about people's opinions, Like it's.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Just like it's nice to have something for yourself exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Not everything needs to be public, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
And unfortunately balancing the fact that this is part of
our job now in the entertainment world, the fact that
we are that filter that call under for what we
actually choose to share. I struggle with that all the time. Yeah,
Jem and I have had some fights also, to be honest,
where it's like, you know, look at her fight. It's
(02:56):
never no but about you know, you have power and
using the internet. It's tough because also, yeah, my private
life is my private life. But also if there's something
going on in the world that I feel needs to
be spoken about, if I don't add my voice to
that pot, like.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
What's your responsibility?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, a very weird middle ground that you need to
I like, I'm I'm I just started a podcast with
this girl who is.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
On a reality show what's the name plug is.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Called Don't Be Ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
She asked me to do it like six months ago,
and I was like, I don't know because of this,
like I feel like I'm like so filtered online and
now it's like a podcast is different. Yeah, you're really
talking again. You can edit it after, but I've already
kind of gotten burnt by the like fire of what
I've said in the it's only been three episodes.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Different than a picture of your hot ass acts, but
I can say are so hot.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
So part of me is like, no, let people know
your personality. Don't just post like sexy picks, you know,
like be yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Because he has such a good personal and he's so funny.
It's like I think it's such a good way of
showing that side of him. But also you need to
be careful.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You need to be careful because you don't know what
you might say that miss might piss somebody off, or
you know, nain dropping of like just little things or like.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
We're here, like right now, the cameras are on we're
having this conversation. Yeah, we're not thinking of the implication
of what this conversation going after who.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Might have upset or whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And you never do it with that intent, of course,
but it just happens sometimes and unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Yeah, and you can't please everybody, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So I'm not here to like please everybody, but I think, yeah,
to just be weary.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Of Like are you both afraid of being canceled?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm afraid because I feel like some of my comments
may be taken offensively when it's not an offensive thing.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But do you believe like do you do you stand
behind them?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
I think I'm joking a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, and they don't get your humor exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, No, it's true. But there it's like some like
you have to be careful.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You have to be.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Careful, like you know how we were in high school,
like so direct and so honest and like it didn't
Those are different times though, like ten years ago, like now,
things are different and.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
You just have to be more careful with what you say.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, being canceled definitely in the thought. But I
feel like I don't take like crazy stuff. But there
is like phases of life, like during COVID and stuff
where I feel like people were getting canceled Lefty.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Happy Birthday, Yeah, like the I remember people got mad
for your celebrating fourth.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Of July that year, and I was like, I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like those type of things. I'm like, oh my god,
it's like anxiety. It's like did I post something wrong?
Did I do something wrong?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Like dms?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Like when I open like.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
So to like put it into contacts.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
On our last podcast, we obviously had to address the
election and the presidency, and we didn't sway either way
on purpose. We were just like, you know, this is
what happened, like yeah, like the factual just report and
then I check our DMS and it's a long ass
message from this girl. Yeah, she's just like, you know,
it's very ballsy to even bring up politics, especially when
(06:01):
you just started a podcast, like I gave you guys
a chance, and now yeah, like upset, even though we
never really said yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Because I was like, I don't know, just the fact
that you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
We bought it up, and maybe your tone was like
a little one way.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I mean it was yeah, it is like he went unfortunately, well,
you couldn't cut.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That out, yeah, said unfortunately, and you you left them, Yeah,
because I didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Listen, our first season, we would create, we would perform
surgery on our I swear to you. Always said, Aunt
always said, oh you're nervous. You don't ever want to
misrepresent yourself totally. You never say it with the purpose
of offending anybody. And we we live in this like
(06:47):
post cancel culture world where we've seen people be completely
torn down by something that they said fifteen years which
is crazy, Like you can't hold this, hold somebody to
what they believed today. If they committed an error, they
should absolutely atone for it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But like accountability, guys.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You are at sixteen is not.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Accountability is so big. Like I can be the first
person to say that I've said things that are probably
horrible against my own Cuban culture everything just merely because
I didn't know what I was even.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Talking about, yes, like how deep it was exactly regurgitating
things that people that I want to be friends with
think are funny, and then as a result, I then
have to think are funny or whatnot?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
But I do think, at least from my perspective, which
is what I struggle with because I grew up in
a world where old Hollywood, what my parents went through
is way different than now. We're not talking about Instagram,
we're talking about paparazzi, we're talking about interviews. We're still
people would be like, oh shit, I said that interview.
For me, I think that the hardest thing is like
standing by what I know, because I feel the same way.
(07:50):
I would never want to hurt somebody accidentally. But if
I do, still standing behind what I think is right,
I'm like, all right, that's your problem.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Like I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
This planet is too freaking weird. That's why we're out
here or somewhere else, you.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Know, exactly.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Because I also wish people were more curious, you know,
like rather than attack somebody, because that's another thing this
happened to us in the beginning of the podcast to
(08:31):
not anymore, thank god, as much. I think people like
know what to expect now, but they would watch like
a one minute clip and make gross assumption.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Right, It's like, this is.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
A forty five minute episode. This is meant to be
a clickbait for you, so want to click on and
hopefully if you are engaging with the material then go
listen to the full episode. But I wish that people
instead of like jumping the gun and drawing conclusions from
like what's obviously a thirty second clip, they'd be like, hey,
you know what, even if it's valid, right, like Sebastian,
(09:02):
you said this thing that I'm not sure if I
interpreted it the right way, maybe it rub me the
wrong way. Is that what you met? Is that what
you meant? Or can you clarify? No, we're just like
putting people on crossing have those conversations.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
People can't have conversations anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I also think that not everyone, but a lot of
people aren't even offended or outraged by what it is
they're saying. They're just so excited to cancel someone that's
really true, and it's I'm like, you did that really
hurt your feelings?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Just like Gemeny's is something that is and once it
catches on like your screws.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And it's comforting, and yeah, I want to be a
part of a group.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
I want to be the man.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, mentality on the internet is very scary, you know,
and yeah, the cancel culture, so I think, yeah, you
just see to chat lightly and again coming from all
of us. I don't think anyone's looking to offend or
trying to be controversial. It's just more, you know, sometimes
we're human, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
And on the side of controversy, you know, because it
happens to us all the time when we're like measuring
our words. I also I'm trying to I'm not a
master at this in any way, but I often try to,
like ask myself, I'm like, if this that I really
feel right, like I've I've measured my words. This is
actually how I feel I'm properly representing myself. If this
alienates me from a certain kind of audience, that's not
(10:18):
my audiences.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I don't want yeah, love you best of loved to you.
I hope you wish me ill because I don't wish
you ill. But we're not for each other. Consume somebody
else's meeting.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Not every brand, not every person is meant to appeal
to you.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Which is fine, So unfollow me, don't DM me hate
I know, and it's just like go away.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
But it has this girl, this one girl who's been
following her for years and just sends me messages.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
But it's like funny, honest. It that one girl that
just continuously sends.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
The religious Yeah, it's always don't worry, I have a
religious online.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Oh okay, he loves them.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
She has this Sati scammel.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Oh my god. Well, you guys have been doing this
for for so many years. What do you think is because,
I mean the world has changed so much. We have
freaking Tesla robots now, I know you're right, we don't
we don't, But what do you what do you perceive
as like the largest or the biggest change in like
the influencer creator landscape since you started.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I think people now, like then, people believed you waymore now,
like your audience doesn't believe anything you say because there's
so many influencers now, and there's so many people trying
to sell you something that everyone like. And now the
entire audience thinks that you're just trying to sell them something,
or that you don't believe in what you're talking about
(11:54):
or something like that, because the Internet is such a
fake place, and so I feel like that's changed a lot.
In the beginning, you can be like this guy's purple,
and I was like, oh yeah, this guy's purple. Now it's
like I'm like I swear I love this product, and
then your life right, and I'm like, I'm not getting
paid for this, like I swear, I'm like I actually
like it's hard to like, Yeah, that's changed a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I think the public is a lot more intelligents, Like
consumers are.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Smarter, you know, and they know the interface more exactly.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
That's a bad thing for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, they're just smarter and more weary of what
they're being sold and whatnot. So I think yeah, and
also as a creator, you're way more cognizant of what
you're selling, right because you're you want to sell something
you believe in, work with a brand that you feel passionate.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I feel like in day one out they're like, sell
the pencil. I'm like, I'll sell the like.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Anything for a dollar.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
My god, this is they're paying me amazing. I mean
it's a real but it's actually work, Like I need
to pay my bills, you know, Like I don't think
people understand that, but you do have to get like
more picky about what you work with.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
When Ballet started getting like followers in the beginning, this
was not a career, you know what I mean, it
was like yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Was like a vine like it was and violet. It
was like, this is weird all these random people following me.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I like, don't be stupid.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I'm like, we can like monetize.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I love the worst. It was always and I was like,
I just want to be in high school.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
It's embarrassing that I'm in high school and I have
one hundred thousand dollars. I'm like to who I'm like,
because obviously people were like talking ship whatever, like, but
I'm like, okay, And I remember I.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Think it was like pop tart. The first thing was
my first friend.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
It was like, no, way, that's amazing, amazing, like four mines.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I paid me like eight hundred bucks, which at the
time not enough.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Imagine your ship for eight hundred bucks is like eight
hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I was like, this is it pop tart? And you
said that's not enough.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Imagine, but I remember eight hundred bucks when you're in
high school. It was amazing. Yeah, So it was just
and then I think you realized like, oh, like we
can't do something, and that's.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Like where the whole thing came from. But it was
really funny in the beginning. She was like not about it.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Also like you guys work your ass off, and I
feel people don't realize misrepresentation about people that happen to
be pretty, like y'all that are online, you know to
be real because people say, oh, yeah you're talented, but
you're a nipple baby, Like of course you are. Your
parents this.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
There's always something Oh yeah you're pretty.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Of course you post and people are gonna pay you.
Like hunting, you try to wake up and plan your
fucking post for the next month and then tell me.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
If you've got to be in hair and make up
and be good and.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Be in a good mood.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
A girl, come be on camera. Be creative, think of
something that a thousand other influencers in my How.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Do you do that?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
How do you what's your guys CREATI.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I mean I have to say, like he's the more
creative one. Like to give you an example, the Idea
brand was like, oh, you need to write up a
concept before we give you this offer. Like, you need
to write up a concept and then we'll see if
we like you got the job.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Pitch.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I called him. I'm like, can you grab me pitch?
Thirty minutes later he wrote me this insane, amazing concept.
I was like amazing and like I got it. So
it's like we work with each other a a lot
in that way, Like I think we're both creative, but
you're definitely better at putting it on paper.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah again, but it's hard, like she said, like there's
so much creativity and it's such a saturated space. Now
I feel like we feel a lot more confident in
Miami than we did in LA.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Though.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Why is that LA is much.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
More saturated one with creators, Like there was so many
like cont talent whatever, and we also weren't from there.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Miami feels like our home city, Like we just feel
like much more comfortable here, and so there's just there
was much less of a present here.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Now Miami is.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Like has changed change now.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I say that with a you know, grain of salt. Now,
I think the influencer space, we feel.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
More at home here. Obviously, being in LA we felt
so out of our comfort zone, which is good, but
at the same time, like we didn't know anyone, Like
people are mean there. Yeah, I hate you can't do it.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Everybody's there that you I'm already five two, it's enough.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I can't keep up.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
La.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Last me, when I went to a restaurant and I
was trying to order a dish, Oh my god, and
they they refused to call the dish by like what
it was. They wanted me. They wanted me to order
it by like the name they gave this.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You are beautiful gratitude.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I am, Oh, I am.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
They were like, hey, can we have the noodles?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Are like, do you mean the Bliss Joy or I
was like, no, we want.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
The fucking Kelp noodles.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'm like, voice is not for mic.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
We're woo woo, but we're not woo wa Okay, We're
not going to fucking have the Oracle of Joy when
we really want to muffin please.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, I went there a few times. I went there
a few times. Is good, but yeah, but it's also
thirty dollars for a month.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
And the guy was sorry, it's not about gratitude.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Sorry, it's called the Awakening. No, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, that's not my that's not my vibe. I'd rather
go to like, you know, like the Rundown Plate.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Going to cross Road.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Can I have a Billie Eyelids where we can have
fucking perogis and all that vegan ship that we love.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
I know they do have.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Good food, and that's what you guys do well, Vegetarian.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Launch.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
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