22. Warrior Of Light

This week your favorite space travelers are joined by a fierce force of nature. Elena Rose gets real about being a Latina in the music industry, what it means to be a Warrior of Light, how she unexpectedly became a part of Bad Bunny's new album, her journey from performer to hit songwriter to signed artist, and even gives us a dreamy sneak peek of a song off her debut album.

Featuring: Elena Rose

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I gave me the same. Let's go to the mission
one reading that are ready for wondering the same lunch?

(00:28):
All right, everybody, welcome to the show. We're here in
our world. Wait, excuse me, who are you? I didn't
use that voice something? Okay, well who are you? Well?
I'm Alena Rose, oh Una Minnesolana. Let's talk about that.

(00:57):
You call yourself loose? It was, Yeah, there's a back
story to it, but okay, with time, it's become so
many different things. At the end, just part of me.
For me, it's just I feel I'm a person, human
with a lot of things inside, and I just love

(01:17):
learning more about myself and what it means to be
here on earth. Right. But I did pick a side,
and that's why I say God is my manager, because
that is the side I chose, and I love it
and I feel I represent him and I try to
be the best I can so I can represent his
love through what I do, which is music, um, with

(01:39):
my friends, art, whatever that I feel comfortable doing, but
also growing inside. My English, by the way, is I'm
not very good looking, but it's wonderful. I feel so
insecure about it. Sometimes you don't speak a lot of
English I do now, but it's never been like that.
You know, my mom is straight up Latina. Okay, so

(02:01):
let's roll it back. Where were you born? I was
born in Miami. I grew up between Puerto Rico Venezuela.
At this point, I just feel part of the world
in so many ways. I love it. But I was
born in Miami, so my Miami girl. My mom was

(02:25):
a kind of a gypsy, and we moved around so
many different places. It was always that culture of like
we found home everywhere we went and family, Like I
have so many, so many primos that aren't definitely not
related to me, but I just have family everywhere. So
now that you're talking about your family connection, um, I

(02:47):
have loved learning about you because I admire you. We're
going to get into it. So I don't even not
only as a musician, as a woman. And that's something
that I struggle with a lot, being real, Uh, the
nepotism that comes with my last name. And you know,
I grind and I hustle and I do my thing.

(03:09):
But the reality is that it's very different than not
having any kind of doors opened for you. And that's
something that I really admire. About you that you were
playing in We were literally talking about that today. I
was like, it's been such a luxury to see you
from playing bars like every freaking week man, like working

(03:34):
your ass off and grow as a musician, as a songwriter,
as an artist, and be able to witness that like
from a far. I congratulate you and I admire you
so much. I think it's so beautiful. It means a
lot to me. But I think it would be unfair
if I didn't see it in the sense of I

(03:54):
genuinely feel there is something behind, in the sense of
you were born and where you were born, and you
were blessed, and I was born where I was born,
and I was blessed, and I think nothing happens by mistake.
There's so many souls that want to be born, but
we they are only born when they have to be right.

(04:15):
So to me that means something. And the fact that
I am where I am but still feel that there's
so much to go right makes it exciting for me,
because I do remember the times that people see it
as hustling and being at bars and and not sleeping,

(04:38):
but it never felt hard. I don't know how to
explain it. It never felt that I had things against
me or doors that were being I was just focused
on how it felt, you know, And I would always
ask or in my prayers because I'm not religious, but
I've developed my own relationship with God and my angels

(04:58):
and my guides in all right, this is what I
want to do. But show me. If it opens up
for me, then I'm going. If it doesn't, then I
get it. It's not for me, right. I saw a
video the other day, and I'm sorry to interrupt you,
but but I felt your energy that Um, how when

(05:20):
you find a penny, like in the streets. I remember
growing up my mom would always be you gotta pick
it up, but it was always she did it with
a song. Right, find a penny, pick it up, and
all day long you'll have good luck. And then I
see a video. I think it was on TikTok Um
because yeah, TikTok I don't know if you guys want
to talk about that today, but it was a reality

(05:42):
and it said, you know, if you see a penny
and you don't pick it up, the universe is going
to be like, all right, if you don't appreciate one cent,
why would you appreciate ten million dollars, you know. So
how how the universe gives you like a parent, first
a small all responsibility, and then it becomes bigger and bigger.

(06:03):
So I think my life has has become exciting because
of that part, Like how can I keep growing and understanding?
Not what I can understand, because there are things that
you I don't think you ever will, but there's so
many things that you that you wow, like growing as
a soul, like like like a Liens on real inside. Yes,

(06:29):
that's beautiful. And one of the things I wanted to
share today was something I thought of literally last night,
and it's how I've fallen in love with every every
part of me. Just how you have that light, you
have that darkness, and that is just what it is, man,
and it's not going to change. And the way I

(06:50):
saw it last night is I was I'm getting a
new tattoo. But when I got these two, even though
they means so much to me, I was scared. Yeah,
I was, because they were really big in my arms right,
And when I got home, I was like, funk, I
fucked up, Like they were too big. And my mom,
which is like my best friend, She's sitting there just
loving me and being like, all right, they are big,

(07:12):
but now they're on you, so that's it. So I've
two weeks later, I started rocking them and I was like,
I love them. I want to go out with these
and just like put some T shirt like I love
your which is beautiful, because that is the thing. If
we all wear invisible tattoos and nobody can see only us,

(07:34):
which is the things that have scarred us forever. So
we have two options, hate them or love them. They're
not going to leave regardless even if I love these,
They're not leaving. So even though you're broken, even though
you're happy, it's gonna shine through you, you know, and
that light is still they're shining. So it's just kind

(07:55):
of like opening up and being like, all right, this
is what I want to shine through me. Your ted talk.
I'm sorry, let's talk about fun ship. It's just it's
it's my those are my real topics. Like same, it's
life grown. Nobody talks about seeing things like the way

(08:16):
they really should be talked about. Okay, it's kind of weird,
but I was watching the you know, the whole King
Charles whatever, the Queen of England r I p uh situation. Yeah,
but my point being these people, right, they have to
live such detached lives from the public, and like their

(08:40):
their persona that we perceive is like robotic, it's inhuman.
I can only imagine the like what that soul had
to do on earth to be them. It's right. No,
I can't. My thing is I can't. I couldn't want
I could not. I could not because even for me,

(09:01):
even for me, like you know, even for me and
my in one on one conversations, even like it's it's
not about having a big outreach. I have no interest
in small talk. I I it you cannot keep my
attention because since I am constantly seeking answers to things

(09:25):
and I have so many questions, like you, I don't
think about it as an invisible tattoo. I love that analogy.
But I'm always looking for like that person when I
lock eyes with them, to feel there's something that our
souls can speak to each other about. And I want
to go there, like I want to go there immediately.

(09:45):
And you know a lot of people you know don't
really like that. But I think that we as a
species struggle to go there. Yeah, we struggle to to
talk about the real life, question the things that are
beyond the surface, especially when you see someone. And I
think that this is one of my biggest lessons because

(10:08):
I've always taken care of so much of my energy, right,
but which made me grow up being like, all right,
I want to decide who is around me. But then
the lesson that I learned from that is what about
the people that I don't relate to, I still have
to be able to communicate with them because they still
have something to teach me. So now is how can

(10:30):
I be How can I communicate? How can I connect
or maybe not connect, but still be open to the
places where I feel or to the people that maybe
I'm like, all right, we don't think the same way,
you know, like because you still have something there's a
teaching me, you know. But that's the uncomfortable part because
then it gets so easy to be surrounded with people

(10:52):
like you, But then there's so much you grow there,
you know. Then my manager, one of the things that
he said when I started working with him, which is
something that I love, is you never want to be
the best in the room. If you're the best in
the room, amen, you have nowhere to grow. Nowhere to
grow Can I ask you a question? Yes, Man, you
gotta be honest. If you ever felt like somebody's energy

(11:20):
came into your space right that made you uncomfortable or
that impacted you in a certain way, do you feel
like you could deflect that energy? Most definitely. First rule
in life, it's never personal. Never. We should never ever
fucking take ship personal. It's like a muscle, right, like

(11:40):
so many tools to get into someone, right. I do
have to be on a mood to want that, because
I'm so human and sometimes I'm like, all right, fuck this,
I'm out. But usually there is something inside of me,
like you know what you're not here for, you know,
like it's not a casualty. Let's try to work it out,

(12:02):
you know, let's try and see. The thing is m
one has to have the ego chill, like one of
the egos. One of the egos has to be like
all right, you know, and at least try to open
that door. And maybe it's not immediate the shift that
you want, because then it's also like who am I

(12:22):
to try to control that situation, you know what I'm saying.
So it's also like a check in, all right, I'm
gonna I'm gonna try, but maybe this is just what
it has to be today. And I'm cool. But I
think starting from not taking ship personal helps you a lot,
especially in a room with creatives, because now you have

(12:43):
like ten people seriously in a in a studio, everybody
has an idea. Everybody wants to have a say, and
they should because it's why they're there. And everybody wants
to add something, and most of the times we just
have to see where are we, Like, why do I
want to add something? Where is it coming from? You know,

(13:04):
like if it starts to be a dick fight, I'm like,
all right, this is starting to be a dick fight.
But it's the type of ship that you see. Yeah,
he's very transpired. I'm not all right, everybody chill, Okay
you I'm sure you have an amazing dick. I'm sure
you have a brave phenomenal like it's amazing, but beautiful car.

(13:24):
At the end of the day, we got to do
what's best for the song, right or for the artist.
If the artist is a dick, that's when it's good.
That's a different level of like, you know what, I'm
here for you, which is the biggest thing that songwriting
or being a songwriter for someone else has taught me,

(13:46):
because then I bring all of that back to what
I want to do as an artist. How I want
to take care of my people, how I want to
take care of my team, how I want to just
make things work or not. I'm I know now in
my life I have the tools to be in your
shoes for the time that I need to be. How

(14:07):
did you get there? Well, fuck your mom. Initially my
mom for sure, like that that has been my biggest
blessing literally because she gave me my life. But then
you know, she has been that person guiding me and
all my spirituality. I was spiritual before I met music,

(14:28):
and music was the first thing that I feel I've
ever met, you know, like it's like those things like God.
And music was like, dang, that's me right there. I
get it and it gets me right. But so many
times that I had to learn that, Okay, it's time
for me to be by myself in the world, like
God is coming with me, but Mom has to stay home,
you know. And how how I can first of all

(14:54):
make a song right because that's where it starts. It's
how it started for me. We need to get a
song by the end of this session, because that's the
way I was trained, right, So how can I make
this process the best, and how can I have them
see me again? Because now I see creating with an artist,
it's it's a relationship. It's starting to date someone like

(15:15):
maybe like you always want the first day to go amazing,
but you don't have to fuck up the first night,
or you do if it's amazing, but maybe no, and
you want to leave something for the next time we
see each other, you know. So I think me as
a songwriter, I've developed being able to be that person,

(15:36):
which then when I would get home, I would feel
that energy plus mine. So it was literally getting in
a bathtub with salt and just like breathing it out
and being like, all right, can someone take all of
this out of me now? Um, but actually feeling because
also that person has so much pressure, and then you
have the pressure of the label or the executives being like,

(15:59):
all right, Alenna, we're getting hit today, right Like then,
I hope we do. But honestly, at this point, I
don't give a funk if we don't, because you have
an amazing artist in that room that's changing the world
and he doesn't know, and I have to be the
person that sits down with him and be like, if
you need to talk today, we're talking and that's it.

(16:20):
But also you have the responsibility of your team, your career,
the things that you want to accomplish, right I'm I
think finding a middle point, a healthy middle point in
what we want to do, what we have to do,
what other people want us to do, you know, like

(16:43):
what we're talking like expectations, we can't get rid of them,
but they're bullshit, you know. So finding a middle point
and that has helped me feel that I am doing,
you know, like the right thing. Like I love and
I learned so much from artists, bro. Like I thought
I was ready to be an artist since I was
a baby, and now that I've understood artists the way

(17:07):
I have because also being a songwriter felt like the
best comfort zone in the world because I get to
live it all. But I still have my privacy. I
still don't have people being like, you know, eyes on me.
There there's a way of eyes on you, but it's
not you're not exposed. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I right now

(17:28):
in my life, I do. But I didn't feel I
was ready for that So I just signed with Warner
and my first album is coming out and it's super exciting.
But you know what I'm saying, Like it took me.
I feel grateful, And that's the thing that I've always
asked God, please give me things when I'm ready to
receive them, because I know myself. You know what I'm saying, Like,

(17:52):
I'm not down. I have questions for you guys, though, Okay,
go ahead. M h. What do you think you can
say to the kids that want to start in music

(18:13):
and like start writing and be artists, Like, Yeah, I
think that that's an important like I think we could
talk about that in the sense of how we see it.
You know, I would say flow. I like that if
you feel it period, flow with flow, yeah, because I
am somebody who my creative experience has taken me places

(18:36):
that I've never imagined it would m hm. And following
that deep feeling of I just have to do it.
I may not understand it, but I just have to
do it as brought me to places I never thought
i'd be right, right, because it's there's so much you
can imagine too, right, and then life is like, oh

(18:58):
you have boy, better for real? I tweeted the other day,
or I think it was a caption. I'm so grateful
for the things I wanted that didn't happen, like read tweet,
read tweet. Oh my god, I'm grateful for that. Oh.
I have wished so hard on some things that now

(19:19):
looking back, I'm like, thank you Jesus, thank you, thank you,
thank you, all of you, all of you up there,
you guys rock, you, guys rock. I a very privileged perspective.
I've always had a kind of asshole attitude about people
who compromise their artistry. I don't understand it. I don't

(19:41):
tolerate it. Um. I have always, honestly, I just had
a very privileged perspective. Uh, my parents. I don't know
if it's because the fact that they came from the
perspective of we were dirt poor. My dad slept under
a truck. I didn't experience it, know what it feels like.
But I've heard the stories my whole life. And he said,

(20:05):
and when somebody came to my face and offered me
this money and told me to change my name, I said,
got out. They didn't compromise. So I'm like, if they
didn't compromise when they were broke. Why the fuck am
I going to compromise? Now? What is that? Why? I

(20:25):
read something recently that was about to butcher, but it
was kind of like, there's a reason why it's your
vision and not somebody else's. So there's a reason why
God or the universe revealed that vision to you. So
you can't compromise on it, and you can't expect others
to understand it. You can't expect them to agree because
it's not their vision, it's yours. I hope that if

(20:48):
you're young, your hope you're trying to work on yourself,
because I was talking to someone the other day and
I'm like, you know what's hilarious. You die, Your money
gets dissolved to other people. Your even your music, where
I think is super valuable, ends up being something so political.
But you know what's not the work you did on yourself.

(21:08):
I love that this conversation with us, which is what
I love is, has taken like a more deep and
spiritual turn. However, I don't want to take away from
the amazing things that you have accomplished for yourself. You know, um,
when Gem and I met you, you know we met us.

(21:29):
I didn't know who you were at all. You know,
I don't know what you were up to that at
that point, I didn't know who I was either I
we ever, I'm split between that. I'm like, we either
are whether here to find out or we always knew,
or like the alchemist is that it? Well, so we

(21:51):
always knew even if you didn't know who you were.
Even if you didn't know who you were, in that moment,
I felt like I saw a part of you that
was so so clear, and you sang and you were
so raw and so incredible, and it was just a
beautiful thing to meet you. And now you know you.
I feel privileged. I feel privileged to have heard her

(22:13):
in that way, to have heard her in that way,
to hurt her in that way, because it was a
the entire room was silent, and Aston's dad was playing guitar.
Ashtrays dad another sickening damn. She knows. I guess her

(22:37):
up all the time. But I feel very privileged to
have witnessed that moment because it's like one of those
moments that just sticks with you. Yeah, it was wonderful.
You really impacted us, and I feel like nowadays there's
something about being an artist and something about the music business,
and I feel like you talking about balance and being
split in the middle. You do both. How was it

(22:58):
for you that transition, you know, that transitory period because
going from artists too obviously still an artist, but singer,
I guess, you know, vocalizing to helping other people vocalize.
You know you've written for just like incredible artists right
now that people that like I mentioned that don't even

(23:19):
speak Spanish or speaking So how has that transition been
for you? What what is most important to you? Your
personal expression or helping other people express. I think I
fell in love with both. I gotta be honest. Songwriting
was the door that opened for me without me looking
for it. I never really thought was one of those

(23:40):
those things that it was a big surprise, But it
was a big opportunity for me in both important parts
of my life, which was obviously the personal. That we
talked a little bit about it and how these people
taught me so much and what it means to be
an artist, but also what it means to be in
someone else's shoes, right, and how all of that love

(24:01):
that I was giving them. Then one day I was like, oh,
I don't want to give that love to myself. Right,
So it was a very big, ambiguous, beautiful, beautiful things
that happened in my life. But also the business side.
How my team. My manager that I met after I
wrote a song for Becky g he also manages manages
Becky another really beautiful human human. I love her. That's

(24:24):
my sister, and we started as a team. But one
of the things that he told me is I want
to make you a Latina businesswoman and going to the
core that Latinos are very very strong culture, but there
are things that we have to learn. What are the
three most important things that Latinos have to learn to
infiltrate this business. I'm going to speak about women because

(24:45):
I think we have the opportunity how to be a
Latina businesswoman, and that means being responsible with your money,
understanding what you're capable of doing with it, where it
can go, how you can grow, how we can and
I say invest because I grew up and by Amon
and I remember seeing my mom taking out the cash

(25:06):
underneath the mattress and we would live day by day.
Latinos were taught to live day by day because that's
the way we struggle, right, that's the way we survive.
Latinos have always been a survival mode and I think
right now, especially in the music, we don't anymore. We
have all the eyes in the world looking at us,

(25:28):
you know, we actually attention, especially now and Latinos women,
Latino women have now the opportunity to be in the
same space as occupied. Yes, sacto either create our own
little empires that connect with each other. Right, So definitely
education we need, but to go way back number one.

(25:51):
Number two education. Second, I think Latinos or Latino women
have to let go of the fear and what has
meant to be Latino in the world because we do
have obviously suffered and been castrated since forever since man,

(26:15):
and I think that is something we have to heal
and understand that we are not less than anyone, that
we are not um, that we don't have to be
Americans to be or sing like them or look like
them to be successful or be someone. You are enough,

(26:36):
you are exotic, you are special for being a Latino person.
But we have to be less stubborn. I think so
be less stubborn because me growing up in a Latino household,
my uncle's, my parents, they is like you think you

(26:58):
know everything, but you don't you know, and there it's
an open minded it's a it's understanding that there is
something that there's always something that we can learn that
because we come from a space of Okay, I need
a job, so I'm going to say, yes, I know
how to do this because that's the that's that's what

(27:19):
I have to do to get money. Okay. You I
love that about us as Latinos. You teld me right
now if I need the money that if I can
fix the car, I'm going to find a way to
fix that car. But what if you have someone that
is amazing doing it and you're like, yeah, teach me,
teach me what you have to show me. I think
the most beautiful thing that Latinos have is a hardworking

(27:42):
mentality and ambition. But the ambition I think now can
be no, it's thinking of the future that now actually
Latinos have the power. We have the power in our
hands to stop being who we were always in history,

(28:06):
you know. But it's all understanding that we had to
go through it because it's just the way it was.
But we did serve an important, very important thing in history.
And there's nothing I would be Latina again, because if
I was born again, I would be Latin, would just
be a little taller, I would be Latina. But yeah,

(28:27):
we have to we as a culture have to stop
feeling less and anywhere to anyone because we're not and
women too, you know. I always I am very open
with the fact that feminism as a concept has been
um twisted in many ways, and I think it went

(28:50):
on a tangent for a long time. I think now
as women, we should just understand that we are human.
Stop seeing each other as either is something different, because
I think society has made us think like, because you're
a woman, you're different, and we're different in very positive,
beautiful ways. And my perspective being just a woman, because

(29:15):
it's it's what people always ask me, And we were
talking about it before we started recording. How does it
feel to be a woman in the room. I'm like, Yo,
why don't you ask me how does it feel to
just make music in the room? When I walk in
out and walking and thinking that I'm a woman? I
just walking thinking that I have to give my Oh yeah,
so let's stop focusing on what the label is that

(29:37):
I have, but focusing on giving my every time you know,
that's a hard part. The problem is that as much
as you feel that way, everybody else in the room doesn't. Well,
here's a here's a hard fact. I feel you Probably
you probably don't have been there. You probably don't feel it,

(29:57):
or maybe you do. But what if The things that
makes you special is that you your soul came to
the earth when it did, under the circumstances that it did.
And the reality is that you are right now, especially

(30:18):
in the Latin music industry, breaking some glass ceilings because
it's not super common to have a lot of female
songwriters in our industry, and so I I love that
you enter the space as yourself soul first, because I
think that's the way we're supposed to be. But it's
really cool that I feel grateful. I feel grateful more

(30:42):
in the sense that we have obviously young girls or
upcoming writers or producers that come and talk to me,
and it's usually unfortunately, but I feel fortunate that I
get to witness it and talk to them because they're like,
all right, we're about to women are going to take over.

(31:06):
It's done. We don't need men. I'm like, yes, but
that's not the focus here. Um. I think also that
is what I can bring to these upcoming, amazing talented
women that I just see as a talent and as
an opportunity to be Like, I want to be part
of this. But when I want to be part of something,

(31:28):
I'm not looking at if you like the way you
look or right, I'm I'm looking at the way you think,
and I wanna and I want to invest in how
can I add you the best that I have to
the way that you think? How can we make the
best of what we both have? Yes, exactly, um, and

(31:50):
then actually having women change their perspective towards what it
means to be in the industry, you know, because yes,
obviously I feel so grateful that I'm that I am one,
but I don't want to be the last one. I promise,

(32:10):
like it's not like, oh me, and that's it. You
won't be that. That's the beautiful thing about it. But
I do hope at least the women that work with
me have that mentality, because then that's the beautiful side
of it, right, But then the hard part of it
or where I am very picky, and it's happened. We
had we signed an amazing producer and I remember she

(32:35):
was in the studio and she had cramps and she
was in a lot of pain and she started crying
in the computer. She had you know, it's hormones, and
she was like, I won't to leave. I was like,
you're not leaving. Everybody left the room and I said
to her, you're not sucking leaving because if you leave
right now because you have a cramp, these motherfucker's won't
stop talking about that. You suck that up. We'll cry later.

(32:57):
I promise you gotta suck it up. So, yes, there
are things that remind you that you're a women in
the industry, just like a couple of idiots that I
have encounter that I've been like, yo, stay in your
lane right now because I am a woman, yes, but

(33:18):
I am Latina too, So that's that's different. So's you
don't want across that line. And there's different type of like,
for example, me, I've been blessed with the men in
my life are beautiful, be beautiful men. But then for example,
in my life, I had you know, it was I
have two girls sisters, it was me and it was

(33:40):
my mom. You too. That's what you don't that's what
that's one of the things that God is said. My
mom's a hypnotherapist, that she was a professor of crystals,
that it was always her and me and my sister
always growing up. I told you, I even grew up
thinking that I was going to be a single mom,

(34:01):
because that's what I still kind of think. I think,
I love you, But that was a deep it's rooted
because I could do it. I could do it. My
mom didn't. I saw her do it. I could do it.
My mom did it, as I get it. But for me,
my big thesis has been love, right I that's going

(34:21):
to be my thesis, I think forever. And this year
with this guy that I'm telling you, it was the
first man that I honor, honoring me as a complete woman,
woman raised by my mom, seeing my sister just complete
feminine energy that I think such completely. I feel completed

(34:44):
with that, you know, like I feel full and I
honor feminine energy. But I never thought I could honor
a man like that, you know. And the thing is
with these type of situations is that we when we
are creating this song changed my life and it stopped

(35:07):
being about him because it's what he inspired in me.
But because I let down all of everything, all my layers.
I was like, all right, I need to I want
to honor this person and kneel down like my energy,
kneeling down to surrendering and not thinking of what I'm
getting back. But the song and I want to share

(35:28):
the chorus with you. It's it's in my album. But
but coming from the fact that as a woman, this
taught me and even more in the industry now in
my life that a man can also teach a woman,
you know, and build a woman a real man. And

(35:53):
coming from a single mother family situation all girls, that
was something that I would never ever would have thought of.
And I think the commo the lesson in that is
that we have learned so many things in our lives
and we have a structure, but if we are open

(36:17):
to you know, receiving that all right, this information, what
can what can change in me without touching the values
that are untouchable, you know, and unchangeable and unnegotiable. But
so the course says the song is called the Lambre,
and the course says, I can read it. I can
tell you in Spanish and translate. I can say, pert

(36:45):
can the lucky for some physical momental no coming now
so low single coming now? Oh now is it getting
send your mom? So? Why? Because also because also men's struggle,

(37:14):
men's struggle is beautiful. They struggled to thank you so much,
but they struggled to on how to interact with us
even in the industry. You don't a man is not
the one that opens the door from me, Just don't
close it for me. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's is respecting those those boundaries and men are forced

(37:36):
and and being like, all right, if you want to
be a good man, you gotta love a woman, and
you don't love yourself. Yeah, but you teach me, you
lead by example, and you teach me how to love.
That's why I have so much respect for my dad,
not only because he honors and lifts up women. He
really does, he really does. But he is a provider,

(38:02):
a lover, a caretaker, not because he thinks that it's
what a man should do, but because he thinks that
that's what love is exactly. Which is why I tell
because I I see it all the time, and I'm
taking it more to the music side because I think
it's the topic that people are interested in listening because
we're talking about a lot of things, but I don't know,

(38:25):
but I'm sure there are creatives listening to us. And
if you're a woman and you feel unvalued, and you
feel less because you're a woman, and you feel insecure
because you're a woman, you're absolutely in the wrong place
and absolutely surrounded by guys that are not men, but

(38:47):
real good men. They exist, they do, and they are
in the industry, and they are open to helping you,
and they understand that they have more to learn from
you that they could ever teach to you. So it's
a beautiful engagement of a very healthy and and you know,

(39:07):
and just like a growing energy, they are. There are
good men in the industry. And I've lived I've seen
assholes who I'm telling you, I'm like, yo, I know
where he lives, then please let me go and tell
I've had men be like, yeah, we don't. Elena Rose,
that's it, she's she's fun. I don't want another song
of her. She didn't sign with me. I don't want

(39:28):
her to No other elenor Rose song is coming in
here and just threatening because also guys like that know
how to threaten a woman threatened, you know, and make
her feel that way. But then I had my manager
be like, mm hmm, no, that's not gonna happen. Ever,
you let your work speak for you because you're a lady,

(39:50):
so you're not gonna go break nobody's car. Okay, take
the high Alia we could, We'll do it for you.
I think there is good, good people in the industry.
I love that. I do, I do. I'll segue all

(40:21):
two questions segway. So, first, do you remember the first
song but you ever wrote? Yes, what was it called?
What was it about? I wrote it to my first boyfriend.
I actually wrote it with my little sister. She was
like six that it was. I had a SpongeBob SpongeBob.

(40:41):
I love SpongeBob. The lyrics is horrible, but always says
Moscow soul. That is freaking adorable. Yeah, so horrible. Your
first song poop poop poop, poop poop poop poopoo my

(41:05):
first song, or something like that. Because when I was
a kid, I had very strong a d h D.
And my mom read this j LO book that said
if you sang to your kids, they would be smarter.
So my mom literally sang everything to me. Shout out
to my mom, I love you. She sings beautiful man
for my both of my sisters, my grandmother. They all

(41:28):
sing It's worthy. Rose comes because I'm Andrea Lena, but
roses my mom, my sister, and my grandmother. I love that. Alright,
So I have a question for you. Gem and I
had a little conversation before this episode because we know
that you were ah well, let me let me rephrase this.

(41:51):
We know that bad Bunny was graced with your presence
on his latest record. I love you, Benny. I'm going
to see bud Bony tonight anyway. So added to the
list of all the incredible people that you've worked with. Yeah,
So I did a little deep dive on your instat
and I saw that you posted a voice note are

(42:13):
you going body? So I have a question I want
to tea right now. Is that what made it on
the record? Yeah? I knew it, But hold on. Do
you know how many times you say body body, buddy,
I'm the record? Yeah, long enough? Please hold on you
guess within two of the numerical How about this, I'll

(42:37):
give you five within five shot tonight. We're gonna buy
you a shot regardless. And the whole song is times
that echoed. Okay, that's your final guest. Hold on because
I say it three because it's three times. So what
is it? Six? You want to know from roll? Please?

(43:07):
You say it thirty two times in the first chorus,
thirty two times in the second chorse, thirty one in
the last chorus, for nine times total nine parties, your
five parties away from a hundred. That's the song certainly

(43:32):
not fifteen. But I know what you said that you
gotta that's crazy. Yeah, he's a flip. I was in
Mexico and a taxi and um, hold that hits me
up and he goes, Yo, I need your vocals really quick,
I need your help. Can you help me with I
was like, yeah, for sure. He's like, I just need

(43:52):
you to do this. I was like, alright, cool, so
I started. I was just I just did it, and
that's it. What was awesome, And I love that from
the voice note, it sounded exactly like the record. I
was like, that's it. She used that exact voice. And
I didn't know it was for him. I didn't know nothing.
That's awesome, but I loved it. I loved it. Of

(44:14):
all you've worked for and with incredible musicians, and I'm
sure it's hard to pick one, so I'll say, who
has been the musician that you've worked with that's been
the most fun in the studio. M hm, fun in
the studio. I don't worry. They're probably not listening. But honestly,

(44:39):
like life changing. I think for real, he's really cool.
I spent three months with him and the coolest thing
he does out of he's the best. I love him.
But we saw each other for three months straight and
every day at four pm, he would have a skateboard
class for an hour. I love I just have like

(45:02):
a dude come over and skate with him for an hour.
I love that he was I thought that was so
much fun. And I would just see him because he
has a home studio and his glass windows and he
was just there and he would be like, I'll be
right back and take a shower, just like. I love
the best and he's amazing. I was really fortunate to
also meet for all like, but I was a lot younger.

(45:25):
My mom was doing a record with him, and I
would go home from school. I'm sorry, I missed French
class like probably ten times. I would just dip because
my mom was in the study. Word for all like
I will be there and I gotta go. And he
The one thing that stuck out about him was at
first of all, he named his son Rocket, which I
thought was so sick. And he has other like the

(45:48):
names of the other ones because he has the younger ones.
Its cool, so I thought that his kids were like
always around. And then number two, he's the one who
introduced me to logic up with his laptop and he
had the entire library of Hans Zimmers, you know whatever,
and he would like plug in with an eighth inch

(46:09):
to the SSL like d eighty two channel console. But
he's like there with with lodging, like doing these crazy
loops and stuff, and he was like showing me, look,
this is what you gotta get on him, like whatever.
So did you like give him a shout out for
your album or something. It's like, well, this is my
shot out right here. Thanks for that. Guy changed. I mean,

(46:29):
I think he's the type of person that when you
meet him, your life changes forever, because even if it's
for five minutes or the amount I remember, he we
would always have like a lot of people there because
he has like a big team. And I was on
the mic and he was like all right, you do
melodies now. And I started doing some melodies blah blah blah,

(46:49):
like a couple of times, and and then he was
like two seconds, Lenna, take your headphones off. I was
like okay, and then he want everybody we have a
Lena Rose year. She's a hit maker. She is the best,
all every all beautiful things, right. And I was just
there looking at him and he said, but I don't

(47:10):
want that. I want to hear Andrea. I want to
hear you give me the melodies that you, deep down
you want to do. I was like, who am I
in this moment? And then it was amazing. So he
was he's a big, big spiritual connect like he's a

(47:32):
big source man. He changed my life forever. And he
just pushed me every single time. And I think that
is the coolest thing that a person like him can
do to anyone that's wanting to grow, you know, and
that's open to like, because I would have never ever
ever thought he was the big angel he is, you know,
Like I thought his ego was bigger than yo. This

(47:55):
guy a T shirt and some shorts, three on a
skateboard every day and then being aware of his kids,
his family's super respectful, humble. I think every time now
that I that I see an artist that's like very
ego to stick or whatever, I'm like, yeah, seriously, like

(48:17):
is not you? Don't you know what? Yeah? Okay, I've
always wondered whatever happened to a Frea? Oh my goodness,
you want it? Keep it to You're such an ass.
I'm serious. We were talking about that song the other day.
That's ever going to come on? Okay? Can I have

(48:40):
it for my personal I'll never send it to anyone.
I won't even let him hear it. I'll put it
on for my head. Have it. No, I think, I
think what happened to a Fredta and all that batch
of songs is I was still finding myself like what
do I want to be do as an artist? And
then all do this happen? And then I was like,
all right, I'm ready. Have you ever gone back to

(49:02):
those songs and like reproduce them, reimagine them? I haven't
even heard them? What? Okay? So the reason why I
asked that is because I've learned with them, because I
never you know, I'm not a songwriter, even though I
have written nominated song right, No, I have written I have.
It's funny. I have written two songs that happened to

(49:24):
be on this album, and I'm very grateful for that experience.
But I'm serious, it's it's and you know what's so funny,
it's it's That's one of the things that I would
love to explore more because I never saw myself that way.
I've always been in the music world. I don't consider
myself a musician because it's not something that I pursued daily,

(49:46):
although it's like an in in arguable part of my
daily life. But I played violin growing up, and I
always considered myself a writer, but I never married the two.
And the point in me saying all of this is
that m being someone I considered to be an actual songwriter.

(50:08):
She has this, you know, long collection of songs that
she's written, like I'm sure that you do. And I've
seen her go back and like rediscover something that maybe
she started working on or in like left or maybe
she thought that will never become something and like rework
it as M now and some really cool ship comes

(50:29):
out of it. So I don't know. I'm just saying
I'm gonna take it all right. I should listen to
this and you know what, I'm gonna say the realty
right now. That night that we heard those songs, that
was ten minutes we heard you sing acoustic guitar, Spanish jazz,
this and that, and then you're like, let me show us,
you know, our originals. And they were amazing songs, but

(50:49):
I felt like it was a lesser representation of you.
And we kind of without knowing you, were kind of like, girl,
we just heard you destroy our soul and that never
this is awesome, but like maybe not for you. Yeah.
I think I think that was in that process of
of just a lot of growing. Man. Do you remember

(51:10):
that conversation? And it was something that I took with
me too when I started actually putting on the table
like Okay, do I want to do this? How do
I want to do it? I remember that conversation because also, man,
when you write for you, and that's the thing loving
someone else, it's way easier. Yeah, And I think that's

(51:34):
literally the representation of writing. When Dounga came out, oh
my god, Jem and I were like we were like mother, like,
I don't know. Again, it's an energetic thing, I think so,
and I and I and I hate something which is crazy,

(51:56):
it's weird. It was just not it was we wrote
it for another artists, but but yeah, that was that
was one of the big moments. Laducha to Laducha was like,
what if we write a song about giving self love
like that? Nobody wants to talk about that. All my
friends are guys and they're basically doing, you know, talking

(52:18):
about it all the times, talk about their ticks all
the time. Why why are we talking about why? Yeah,
why are we talking? We don't eat even like with
my friends, we don't talk about it. And then I
was like, hey, girls, can we talk about this? But yeah,
that was like the first Those were like the first
songs that I was like, Okay, I'm finding myself and actually,
la ducha we're doing a remix now. It's coming out

(52:41):
the next end of the month. I don't know when
this comes out in like two days, right, So it's
it's with my girlfriends that Deanie is on and Bucky
g is on and Gracie is on it, on it
and it's just like it's a good moment to be like,
all right, I am very blessed that everyone I work

(53:03):
with have become my family and my friends and they
are supporting me as an artist now and they are
ready and giving me that push and we've thank God,
you know, it created community artists right now are really
supporting each other. And this is my moment to invite

(53:24):
them to any of my songs. If she like that.
This is my prop actually just saying my musical opinion.
You didn't ask for it, probably least valued in this room,
but your voices would blend so beautifully to do something.
I'm gonna do a whole movie this October, me and

(53:45):
my mom and my nephew are releasing Christmas album. However,
it's so, However, like Jem said, I am sitting on
a collection of songs that represents not not at all
what anybody would think, but what I've been going through
since the last time I m So it's chaotic, and

(54:07):
it's obstructive, and it''s sad and it's it's everything. But actually,
I would like to invite you to sing with me.
I'm gonna I'm gonna put this out and make sure
the public keeps you both account formal invitation for you
to join me the same with me, And if you
still want me to sing with you, then I think

(54:28):
that that would be a perfect end to this circle
of how this conversation ended, because who knows what I'm
gonna do with you? Who knows what you're gonna do
with me? Can I clap? Yes? I can to be
a part of it too, Miss you can clap your
eyes recorded. I have many talents. Jim can sing, Jim

(54:48):
can play violin, Jim can play a meet. By the way,
Jim plays an amazing shakeetting Yoh that's a vibe. I
learned a great teacher. I had a great teacher. So
new me is the guys. We're coming at you. Yeah,
let's go. Oh yeah. Thank you for being with us.
Thank you. I have loved you. Know. I came into

(55:11):
this thinking it would be one thing, and I'm so
happy that it was another thing that I love that
I well, I'm so blessed. I feel so blessed to
be here. I really admire you separately and then together.
You guys are my favorite fucking couple. I am dying.
I have the dress for that wedding all you can't
even wear white. Oh my god, thanks so much for fun.

(55:39):
No remember, but thank you and for having me first.
But seriously, I wrote it outside in the board for existing. Man,
I'm so grateful you guys exist for real, because it
just makes all of this make more sense, the fact
that we are alive and together in this time of
the world and that we do what we do. Man.
I think I think we're on the right path. So

(56:01):
thank you for having me. Okay, so tell everybody out
there who's on this flight. By the way, you're you
can almost unbuckle your seatbelts if you have to pee
right now, go quick, you know, like we're descending. Um,
where can people hear you? Follow you? What project do
you want them to hear? Give us your elevator pitch
so you can find me everywhere or anywhere as Elena

(56:23):
Rose seeing at without an age because it's Atlenna in Spanish.
And I have my first album coming out next year,
my first single coming out at the end of the
month as well. Um, and that's it. A lot of music.
I am working on some acting things, which is very
exciting too, and I'm still working with other artists, UM

(56:47):
amazing projects as a songwriter. So hopefully you might not
see me everywhere but feel me. So let's let's go
take us out. Baby. Well, it's been my pleasure and
my honor to be in this room with both of you.
I've admired you since we met. I told you you know,

(57:08):
you imprinted on me and I never forgot our conversation
or a meeting and how I was like, oh, we
get each other. And it's been it's been a true
it's been a true luxury to watch you grow from
from the outside and know what your soul is like
on the inside. And I'm so proud of you and
I can't wait to see what else you're gonna do. Man,
I man, Thank you, guys, love you, love you, Welcome

(57:30):
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