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After a tough loss to Cincinnati, the guys reconvene in their garage to break down what it was like to experience the first home defeat of their Notre Dame careers and share some anecdotes from the top-10 matchup. Cam tells a story about a fan interrupting his family's dinner to demand answers about the outcome, which prompts a discussion about how to deal with uncomfortable public fan situations. Next week's Virginia Tech game is previewed, and the question is asked: ...why "Enter Sandman"? Finally, with the calendar flipping to October, the crew welcomes in Spooky Season with a deep-dive into Halloween costumes, favorite horror films, and what candy they're gunning for in the trick-or-treat bowl.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The volume. What's Up everyone, Welcome back to the Inside
the Garage podcast. I'm Kyle Hamilton's along with J. J. Wallace, Connor,
Raddy and Camart. This is episode eight of the podcast.

(00:21):
We're getting We're getting close to the mouse. On the
ten episode mark we gotta do something for it. We
have a little party, I don't know, a party, TG party,
Halloween party, mud be crazy. Now, first off, you start
with the game yesterday. UM obviously didn't go how we
wanted it too, but it just initial thoughts me personally.
I'll start off, I thought we played hard, which is

(00:42):
something that people really take for granted. Across college football
for sure, just um watching games and as many football
games as we watch, you can see some teams that
kind of give up or aren't playing as hard. And
I feel like just just ingrained us to the player
no matter what, no matter of the score. I feel
like the confidence was never down throughout the game, and
even half time we were going in uh and we

(01:04):
came out strong and second half I feel like the
team had a good second half just kind of finish
it out. But going into this week, we got a
big week again, UM Virginia Tech and I think it's
really gonna show we're made of and coming off a loss,
obviously going into a hostile environment, Um, I think it's
a perfect time and for us to show we really
are and show that as a team we can overcome
obviously a tough loss at home. You know. Um we

(01:27):
won straight at home and broke that street yesterday, and
obviously it was emotional game for everybody for both sides
and didn't work out how we wanted to. But we
have an opportunity this week to make up for it,
and we saw a lot of season left, so I'm
excited still going forward. Just feel like it was a
growing experience for everybody, especially younger guys getting to see

(01:48):
because everything's been sweet for them up until this point. Um,
never lost at home, never lost a game, but um,
I feel like everybody grew up a lot in the google. Yeah,
I would agree to that. I just think we beat
ourselves in some aspects of the game, and it cost
some bad breaks. And you know, it's college football, everybody,
especially coming to playoffs matter. Damn. You know, we're gonna

(02:09):
get everybody's best shot, and I feel like we can't
do that, So we can't, you know, I'm saying we
can't beat ourselves. So but like you said, we do
have a big week coming up, a big opportunity to
can attack a good opponent, a good opponent, and you know,
I just kind of progress in our season. There's a
lot of football out to be played. So I definitely think, um,
it's only up from here. You gotta get credits. I
mean a little christ since Danny they they're a good
football team, and more talking about us, like you can

(02:33):
kind of mentioned like Kyle the halftime, like he was
seven zero and I understand we're in a bad spot.
I never felt like it was seven I felt like
it was still like it was yero zero. Like the
captains on the offensive side of the ball spoke to
the offense and like Kiren jay Pad and Davy Davis
and they like they gave it like an inspiring speech,
and I felt like, you know, I was yo doubt

(02:54):
in this game, you know, and obviously the result of that,
but we wanted it not obviously never what we want.
But those guys that were up A d was one
of them. He was one of the eight guys that
the team that had experienced a loss at No. Dame stadium,
and so he could really see it when he was
talking to the offense about how much he liked I
didn't want to experience that feeling again. Obviously no one does.

(03:16):
But obviously Congress Cincinnati and Virginia Tech is is a
good game to look forward to. The atmosphere should be
fun was not the not the result that we had
hoped for. For me, I feel like I resonate mostly
with one of the young guys who haven't really experienced that,
and I feel like that impacted me a lot because
and thinking about it, having lost the home game since
high school, so even when we are in the deficit seventeenth,

(03:38):
they were a half time. No matter what the obstacle is,
I feel like we're going to put it off, pull
it off because we've been there before. We've been down
at home and figured out a way to pull it off.
So no matter what, even outside of exits and os
and being on the team or whatever, even if I
was just a regular student or a fan, I feel

(03:59):
like that was the culture that we created. We created
a culture, a winning culture. We don't lose at home
twenty six games, blah blah blah blah blah. So me
being on team, I'm like, my thought processes, Oh, we're
gonna win. We're gonna win. No matter what, we're gonna win,
We're gonna win. So it comes down to the two
minutes and we go out on the field and I'm
like ship might might not win, might not win, and

(04:21):
that feeling setting in. It's something I haven't felt personally
in a while. Like that was like we were living
losing at home in a playoff game in high school
and I'm like, she's I haven't felt this fielding in
football ever in a while, And I didn't honestly think
I was going to ever feel that feeling in college,
given that playoff games, that's hard games, but playing at home,

(04:44):
playing the top ten opponent, I never really never really
resonated with me that there's a chance that we can
actually lose. Is like, yeah, we we know, like going
into every game, yet we gotta play all hardest, we
gotta no matter what we did in the past, we
still gotta approach this game with the mindset of winning
and things that I saw it, But just me being
a young player here at Notre Dame, I've never really
felt that. So I just feel like the standards that

(05:06):
was up for me is we don't lose. I feel
that going into I'm like, come out of half times
going to what you were saying, I'm like, there's no
way we lose it. Yeah, down seventeen, that's that's not
that's not crazy. Yes, it's like that feeling where we're like,
there's no way we can It was like, we gotta
pull it out somehow, we gotta figure this out. You
know what I'm saying that. It's just that's the standard, Like,

(05:27):
we don't lose at home, even when we're in the
deathit seventeen zero four teens there were ten zero. Always
think about two possessions, three possessions because that's what we've
always done when we're down Virginia Tech last year at home.
I don't know how many possessions it is, but when
I scored that touchdown, I was like I knew somehow
we would get to that point. So we're playing Cincinnati
yesterday and they come very well prepared team, really gritty.

(05:51):
They came, they came ready to play, and I just
feel like, no matter what I had that idea of mind,
three possessions for possession, no matter what the often did
feel like they're gonna pull it off. You know where
I think that mindset was made. I think obviously it
comes from just like what we put into the program
and like the thoughts that we have in our heads
going into games. But at home, we've had so many

(06:12):
of those games. It's like Taledo, we had a game
winning drive. Virginia take our freshman year, we had a
game winning drive the game like a Clemson game. Like
we we always pulled it out, and I feel like
we're just so accustomed to it that there's never a
doubt in our mind that like somehow somewhere we're gonna
pull it out. And obviously it just goes to show

(06:34):
nothing is guaranteed. And we still got to have that
same mindset obviously going in every game. But like kJ
was saying, we're gonna get everybody's best shot, and if
you're not prepared for that shot, they're going to catch
you in the face one time. And I mean, we
got a great week to respond this week, and walking
through the google today, walking through the building to day,
I felt like the coaching staff spirits was still really high.

(06:56):
Confidence is still high. I mean, obviously thinking the result
we wanted, but it just goes to show this college football.
They were top ten ranked team, they came to play.
They were really emotional through during the game, before the game,
after the game. And it's crazy because we're gonna touch
on the Cincinnati fan base, but like they they had
a good amount of fans there and it just shows
how how much this meant to them as well and

(07:19):
how much is writing on the game for them as well.
So they're obviously gonna give us their biggest shot. And
it was funny on the player walk into the stadium,
I was seeing a lot of Cincinnati fans. In my head,
I'm like, this is like a bucket list thing for them.
And that's when we kind of set in and everything.
I was like, oh damn, like they this like means
a lot to them, and I mean and meant the
loss to us too. And we we didn't change anything

(07:42):
in terms of the way we approached the game and
stuff like that, but I mean, obviously we think the
result we wanted. And going back to what kJ said,
a lot of people talk about like what we did wrong,
whatever quarterback controversy we got going on, whatever offensive, a
defensive controversy we got on, but we approached the top
ten game, and I'm gonna be blamed with myself and
with the team. We're not going to play to the

(08:03):
expectation we want to play. If we have as much
mistakes as we had that game, definitely not. This can't happen.
And also along with not losing at home, we haven't
had a season where we lost in the regular season
since our freshman year in Michigan. Ever since the under
Georgian Michigan we went, we lost those two two games

(08:25):
in the regular season, and then since Michigan on out,
we haven't lost the game in the regular season. So
I feel like that also plays to the feeling that
sets in when there's two minutes left and you go
out on the field and like she's this actually might
be It really wasn't what it is like Honestly, I thought,
like team is in thirty seconds. I still thought we
had a chance to really like the very until they

(08:46):
started taking a knee. That's when we can start. They
started taking me at one forty. It's just such a
weird feeling. You look around you like do you see
people leaving, and like this is like this is really
really frustrating, and we just don't really believe it to
the clock is to you, and you're like, damn, Like, yeah,
I'll never say losing like you need to experience a loss.
But experiencing a loss is such a humbling experience a lesson.

(09:09):
It's such a lesson and it can go either one
of two ways. You can either crumble from it or
build from it. And I don't know, I just have
this weird feeling like the whole building is just about
to like like click together, like bring bond together through this.
And a lot of the younger guys and even even
a lot of the older guys, we were just kind
of like getting in this routine where it's just like, oh,

(09:30):
we go, should go. We can we win games, and
that's not bad expectation, but at the same time, it's like,
you gotta know it's a possibility we could lose games,
and we gotta prepare like that every single week, and
every single week, no matter the opponent, you gotta cover
your basis and every time you get stup on it.
So you gotta cover every base. You gotta be prepared,
and in preparation can only get you to a certain point.

(09:52):
You gotta go out there and perform. You do the
job at hand, and then you gotta play a game
at night, but the next week like youbly can do
weeks now, Virginie is actually very good team. Really, it's
a loss. You gotta bounce back right away. The atmosphere,
I mean, we'll go into that like more than it's
a little bit. But you learn from the loss. We
can't dwell on the loss because then you'll affect your
preparation for the upcoming week. And my uncle and a

(10:14):
lot of my family came to the game yesterday and
I'm walking out the stadium and I'm mad, obviously, like
who wants to lose? And the first thing they said,
she played well, And the first thing I said, no
matter how good I played, He's like the shot because
he didn't he doesn't have the film we have of
going undefeated and not losing at home. He doesn't know
any of that, understands football and know that losing it

(10:35):
comes to football. He's like, have you ever lost the
football game before? My guess it was like, okay, you
understand how that feels, but don't let that become a
trend because of your emotions. So he knows me really well,
and he knows when I'm down them down. So he
sees that in me, and he's like, Bro, that's not
the state you need to be in. You need to
come into your own, have some leadership. Don't walk around

(10:59):
pounding and molten because you have a really good opponent
coming up. And if this becomes a trend, then it's
no longer that you're gonna be feeling like how you
feel now. It's going to be something that you're accustomed to.
Come and comes accustomed him. We're no longer accustomed to
having underfeed diseason is not losing at home, but we're
customed to losing in general, and that's something that we
don't do. That's something that anyone at this table isn't

(11:19):
used to. So people are like, we're juniors, right, So
the younger cornerback actually looking at you to see how
you respond after this long and I'm walking around a
locker room with long face and Harry to get it
out of the locker room, not really talking to anybody,
and I feel like that's something that I need to adjust.
I can come home and mope and watch film and
cry all I want, but when I'm around the philip

(11:41):
Ale East, Justin Walters and these young cats that look
up to us. I can't be like that around him,
no matter how I mean be presently have to grow
up fast. I I'm not playing sitting on the bench
seven games two in the role that I am now. No,
not to say that I'm in any high row, but
I had to grow up. I gotta be leader in

(12:02):
the group, but one of them at least, and then
seem like that that's something I really regret so contuching
on them what you said, Like my people will text
me a good game, and I'll be like, no, it's
like the worst game I've played. And obviously right after
the game, you're emotional and you're like saying stuff that
may not have shown them feeling like it's not as
bad as you always think it is. But at the
end of the day, we have more invested in this

(12:23):
than anybody else. It's easy for them to say like,
good game when you know we put so much into
this and to have this as a result, it's just
like it's it's horrible. It's like it feels like this
might be a hyperbole, but like it feels like raising
a kid, and then the kids just like a failure,
Like you're you're raising this child from like winner workouts,

(12:44):
the summer workouts to camp and you just want to
see it flourished throughout the season, and for it not
to work out, you're like, damn, Like what do we
do wrong? Like how do we fix this? Like what
more could I do? The type thing? And my mom,
my dad, like my brother and my girlfriend would text
me and be like a and I'm like, no, it
wasn't a game, like like I don't even want to
talk about it right now, like, but it just goes

(13:05):
to show how much we care about it really. Was
there any uh stories in the game that you guys
want to share, anything, any bright spots or anything interesting?
Actually I do have a story, and this is a
funny story. I didn't think much about it. I didn't
get mad or sad or anything like that. But we're
sitting at the bench and uh, some dude behind me
was like ghost sauce and I'm like, I didn't didn't

(13:27):
conceptualized to be at the moment, I'm like, wait, this
is like yeah, So I look back and dude have
like a green note dat thing on it and maybe
he has a connection with their cornerback or maybe he's
just a fan of them. I don't know, but I
was just like, I was pretty funny. Nuts. Yeah. I
have a few things that happened. Um, like the coin toss.

(13:48):
So I went up out for the coin toss and
you know, captain shake hands and stuff. And so I'm
trying to be cool, like saying like good luck, good luck,
good luck, and one guy is like, bro do untouched me.
I'm like, okay, that's what we're doing. It's like it's
gonna be a long day for y'all. I told you
this on the bitch, but it's gonna be a long day,
long day. I was like, all right, I'm I gotta

(14:09):
see what we're all all right, So I left it alone.
You're supposed to shake hands. After they finished the coin toss,
I just ran off the field. I was like, all right,
that's it, it's over now. So and then during the game,
there was a holding call on me that probably should
have been called I probably also should have you should
have been called yeah, but just necking myself should have
snacked off them. But I digress. But um, and then

(14:32):
the reath comes up to me after the play and
it's like, Kyle, you're an All American I shouldn't have
to call holding on you, and I'm like, come on, dude.
I was like that, I've never heard that was before. Ever.
That doesn't change the holding rule. This isn't the discretion holding.
Like my jerseys all like up in my it was ridiculous.

(14:56):
I just like laughed a little bit supt like did
he really just say that? Like he can't all the
flag just because that's that's ridiculous, But what about y'all? Yeah,
I think I'm not too crazy. It's crazy. I peeped
that moment, like with you the whole He's like, let's
go sas Gardner and I was like, bro, aren't you line.
It's just how it work. I guess i'll work. But

(15:17):
I peeped that in the same moment. I'll probably say, um,
stot Xavier, Xavier watch, but we stitt there. We sitting
there when Drew was leading the drive whatever, I think
we were down we had seven, so we had seven
seventeen seven. They're doing the drive whatever. Xavier play offense.
So he called out the place like as they're running them,

(15:37):
They're like, all right, cool. He's like, Brady's gonna runing
go out. I'm like, your dad. I was like, yeah,
all right, so the place, snap whatever, you get the
ball he throws in, I'm like, bro, even the watch,
I just turned it from my head on his shoulder
and all I heard was a straight fan reaction. I'm like,
my favorite mode from yesterday. I have to Actually, this

(15:57):
is random. Me and Mike had like a little like
a little random like mayor No, Mike Young, he had
like a little random I don't even know what it was.
So I'll lined up against him, explained like Mike. So, Mike,
he spent three years here, I believe as a starter. Yeah,
and a lot of it. I mean, I don't know.
Something didn't work out for him. I have no clue,
but he ended up at Cincinnati. Um, no bad blood

(16:18):
versus Mike. I don't think anybody on the team has
blood versus bad Mike. But he plays the receiver there
and I was guarding him from a jority of the
game and he was a solid rob with the quarterback
goes the other way and we just look at each
other and lock eyes and we just both start laughing
each other like that was pretty cool. But then also

(16:40):
I don't know what song they're playing, hip hop or something,
but this one we see it was come up right
now to come up? Yeah, And I was like, she's bro.
We were talking like alright. I like that the stadium
was playing good like lit hip hop trap music, but
y'all got to be care for the other thing might

(17:00):
get lit to dimm it down a little bit. But yeah,
seeing Mike was was kind of cool because like the
second place I tackled him and help them up, was like,
what's up? Mike? He's like, how are you doing there?
And covered him on the goal line and we're talking.
He's like, how are you being? I was like, I'm good.
He's like, man, I'm good. Man. Those conversation like two

(17:21):
seconds against each other buddy stuff, though, how do you
guys feel about like conversation that's had The next day?
So I go and try to have a dinner with
my family last night and then breakfast from my family
this morning. And there's a lot of people that I
have no clue as asked me your kim like what

(17:43):
happy I should watch you lose? Or my family like
not to like talk down everyone by my family is
like asking me for a lot of questions. I mean
a lot of answers and asked me a lot of
questions and as the day at the game, we haven't
evaluated any filmed yet. But how do you guys deal
with that? How do you guys deal with people who
you don't even know, You don't know from Adam and Eve,

(18:03):
but there they obviously know you, They obviously know y'all name,
and they come to you and ask for for answers.
So are you hard to stay honest with them? Or
are you like, bro, can you can I enjoy his
talking to my family because yesterday and we're at bar
Lowis and I'm just trying to have a simple dinner
with my family. We're not talking to football, we're not
talking about the game, We're just catching up. I haven't
seen these guys and however long. But there's people that

(18:25):
it's come to the table, interrupting that family time. It's like, Yo,
why did you lose? Or what happened on this third down?
Or why I didn't offense convert there or something like that,
And I'm like, yo, I don't have any answers for you.
Can you just please be respectful and allow me to
enjoy his family time. But that's something that comes with
the package. That's something that comes from playing on a

(18:46):
high level. So I don't really right now, I don't
really know how to deal with that because in that
media moment, if I want to say what I wanted
to say, then it will be all of the news.
But I don't really not react to that. So I
would thing, it's kind of funny saying like there's fans
like quote unquote fans, and then fans who actually care
about us, because a lot of people who say they're

(19:09):
fans kind of just see us as like a chest
piece for their favorite team instead of eighteen and twenty
two year old kids trying to make a way for
their family, and they don't really understand that, Like we
go through this process and how much work we put
into it, and then something goes wrong and they're like
what happened? You're like, we don't really have an answer

(19:30):
for you. But like the d M I showed you
guys earlier, like there's fans DM me me like this
and that like racial learning and stuff like yeah, so
there's gonna be people out there that just see you
just like I said, like a chess piece for their
favorite team, and it's just like what we're wrong, Like
you're a robot, and you're supposed to respond like this
went wrong, and supposed to keep a straight face all
the time. But I feel like there's a lot more

(19:51):
people who actually care about us, because there's still people
saying like, keep your head up, like we've still believe
in you, guys, And I feel like having the fine
the difference between those who are caring for you and
those who just want to win out of you is
kind of there to help you keep a level head.
I just approached it is the same way I would
have talked to somebody, like if I don't really know

(20:12):
you and you don't really know me, I'm not quick
to just give you a full answer, give you a
completely honest even the day after the game you don't
have an answer, Yeah, I mean if I don't have
an answer, like you know, I mean, I'm not I
don't know what to tell you. I will just tell
you that I will be like I don't have a
comment on it. But there's some people in this world,
you know, we all know, like they can take that

(20:32):
really wrong. kJ is unapproachable, and we all know like
you're a great person, Like you're one of the most
approable people in this crib, But like, how do you
approach that? Because I feel like when they come to
the table next that I'm trying to protect myself, but
at the same time, I'm trying to enjoy my family.
So you kind of gotta get somebody answered for them

(20:52):
to be like, okay, satisfied with because they're coming up
to the table or wherever you are, and I'm saying
they're going they're obviously approaching you because they want something.
I'm saying, just give him something, I guess. I mean
as far as an answer goes, like we know being
on a team, like going through practice, going through scotting,
the team, going through scotting, the game, going through the
game in general, we know all the answers, you know

(21:13):
what I'm saying. We understand everything's going on, what happened
on his play, what's going happened. But even if we
sat there and trying to break it down to someone
I would they wouldn't understand, you know what I'm saying.
So a lot of times, a lot of people just
want to hear the answers that they want to hear,
so they're going to formulate the question in the type
of way that they can get the answer that they
get they want, So I mean, all you can do

(21:34):
is really give your best answer and try to be
poluit about it, try to be is politically correct about
it as possible. You know what I'm saying. That's that's
how I really feel about it. I think I misunderstood
your question. I would answer it different way. I feel
like in that situation, like that's happening me before. And
there's a big difference between someone coming up and say
good game, tough, loves, keep your head up, and what happened,

(21:54):
like they obviously want something instead of just giving there
like support. But I would just be blunt about it
and be like, hey, I'm with my family, not trying
talk about football right now, and if they have a
problem with that, then that's their problem. But you don't
owe them anything. You don't owe them an answer just
because they came up and ask you something like you
have this rare family time with your uncle. You probably

(22:15):
don't see that often. He's come of traveled hundreds of
miles to the game, and this is the few hours
that you get spent with them, Like, you don't have to.
You don't owe anybody else the time to answer whatever
little question they have, So from my perspective is a
little different because I'm not gonna say playing. One thing
I'll say about that question is that because I'm not playing,

(22:35):
some of the people that I'm close with, like some
more so friends better than like older adults, will feel
like they are more able to speak bad about the
players because I'm not necessarily on the field. So that's
frustrating from me because obviously everyone that teams like a
buddy of mine. So like let's say I'm with a
good friends that man may not know well because I
don't play. They sometimes feel that they can like talk

(22:58):
bad about specific players to me because like I'm on
the bridge there of the team I'm playing, so they're like,
why didn't this person play better? It's so hard not
to spas because like, yeah, the team, like like it
makes me mad right now. You don't understand like what

(23:20):
this person has gone through, Like you aren't there a
practice like what kJ said, Like you don't do the
scout every week. You're not like you're not in the
Goo seven preparing for this game, and then you're gonna
like talk bad about the person to me because I'm
sort of like outside perspective on the game itself. As
a family nor dame growing up, I've seen hundreds of
players go through this program, right, and now I'm a

(23:40):
part of the team, So now I really like I
don't understand the feelings and players like people went through
before it was the team. You know, I don't understand
the extent of the schedules to the guys in the team.
So now as a guy on the team, when people
talk bad about guys in the team all back game
plans or coaches, it's it's so frustrating because now I
have an idea what we go through. If I was
playing really hard for me do not it's bad as

(24:03):
that person we're talking about, like the preparation during the week,
Like you don't know what someone's going through, like even
just their whole career or live, Like you don't understand
how a moment so little do you want to feel? Kid?
It could seem so little, seems so insignificant, but to them,
like that could have been the most devast anything, or

(24:23):
like five million dollars on my podcast. Yeah, Like I've
seen your face after the second pick against Wisconsin, even
the first one, like knowing you understanding, like what you've
been through and like what's what you've got going on
and what you've had going to even outside of football field,
and then just that was emotional for me. Like we said,
we talked about it last on the last episode, but like,
just like that, there's countless stories like that. You know

(24:44):
what I'm saying. You don't know. People could have been
like I've been waiting on this opportunity for a long
time and you could have either a mess it up
or first, and it's just like you's a great point,
like with their picks, Like and we started crying on
the side, like you don't just cry of nothing, like
we understand all the work that all of us put in.
I'm not even emotional guy, like honestly, and I never

(25:07):
cried like last time. I cried with my last state
championship already, but uh, it was it was like a
moment where I would never forget that moment because I
know all the hours that we put in the Google
and in workouts in and for somebody to say like
like you drop a pig, Why how do you drop
that pig? Why do you drop that pig? It's like, bro,
you don't understand what I have to do to hold

(25:30):
my tongue right now. You don't even have to say that,
like I'm still there thinking like why did I drop
this pig? Of course, let me thinking about that exactly
weeks from now. And I heard that immediately after I
dropped that. Yeah, I know what you're talking about it
and even going back to what you were saying, like
I was in that that position the last two years
here in Nordin, and I feel like now and I'm not,

(25:51):
I'm no one special, but there's love us to it obviously,
and even with one person coming to me after the
game saying that it goes from me being and you're
shoes that you are now like not having to answer
those questions, not having to respond, I have to at
least think about or hold my tongue for other players
when people come to me and say why isn't such

(26:12):
and such playing good? But now it comes to I'm
in the game, and those questions they involved myself, and
I feel like going from not being on the field
nine percent of time to being on the field nine
percent time, those questions they mean a lot more and
they they affect me a lot more, and I feel
like I'm not getting obviously probably what you're getting, all

(26:33):
the hate that you're getting. But even the one DM
or the one question I get lyst it's so much
like thoughts and so much I guess I don't even
I wouldn't say anger, but just like ignorance because it
is so annoying respect, Like if you're with your family,
like they don't understand that you, guys, I live around here.
You guys don't live around here. Your families are not

(26:54):
here all the time. You know, I'm saying the players
and team they don't see their families every weekend. You know,
it's fair. So like when your family comes in town
and someone comes up to you and says something, you
have to look at them, like compose yourself in front
of your family after you just play a football game
and you lost just the fact that they felt like
they should be able to come up and talk to you,

(27:15):
you know, like in front of your family. Like I
don't get that from fans, really would You went from
not playing Lierson in time to play Liperson time not
you feel like it's more significant, right being a fan,
you don't play at all, So you're completely disconnected from
me because many avenues there are for fans to like
connect with the team and be with the team and
be a part of the experience films part, You're gonna
always be disconnected, you know what I'm saying. And I

(27:37):
think that's that's what allows some fans too have the
ignorant thought that I can just do this. This is
my space to come up and say that, you know
I'm sayingcause I'm so disconnected. This is not like to
hate on fans at all. Yeah, but this times better.
But yeah, just like we need to be looked more

(27:58):
as as more as just the chest easy to you
know what I'm saying, like people just people. Like we
said to the fans listening, it's no slight to you, guys.
We we know you, guys know we appreciate you. But
at the same time, it's just like we're trying to
give you inside look into our minds how you may
not get the answer that you're looking for sometimes, or

(28:20):
why we may say what we say or not say
what we do say and stuff like that. So I
feel like that was definitely a conversation needed to be had.
And no, I don't think that was planned, but was
not at all. I think that was just me just
like getting a little bit of everything that went into it.
That was good. That was a good conversation to have.
Moving on, we talked about a little bit. But on

(28:41):
Virginia Tech this week. That's gonna be a crazy environment,
probably craziest when we played in this year. Have you
been there? Have you been a Blacksburg? I've been a
Blacksburg a few times. I've never been for a game
and they were recruiting me pretty heavily. So I took
a few visits up there and they were up on
my choices. So another week listening to some music, bro,
we got er, how does it go? Again? I just

(29:11):
did thunderstruck. That was bad. I don't know how it's
the guitar, bro, the what is it? It goes? You're
about to figure it out? Now it's gonna be lit
though it could. I really think this cannot be more
perfect timing for us, honestly, going into a hustle environment
after a loss. This is really good, say like not

(29:32):
up time, Yeah, that's for sure. I feel like it's
good for a lot of people to google, especially us
who haven't experienced that type of feeling, and then the
older guys that gives them an opportunity to lead, so
we won't ever feel like this. So I'm excited to
see what Tuesday, Wednesday, Tomorrow's couldn't look like. It definitely
would be definitely a fun environment to shut up. Yeah,

(29:54):
that's how a lot of the stadium shake. We're going
there and when it solve a lot of problems. For sure,
it's winning solves a lot of problem. Night game. Yeah,
we have three in a row, three night games in
a row, USC and the one after you see the byes,
after the byes after probably weekend un see spooky great

(30:14):
segue j into it's it's October finally now that it's
specially fall ranked the season's month ago. Where I'll start,
I'll go summer, spring, fall, winter, fall, summer spring, winter. Yeah, fall, fall, summer, spring, winter, Yeah,

(30:36):
I think I'm fall first, and then yeah, fall, summer, spring, winter.
What else they fall? Because football? That when? Because what
is not crazy? Yeah? If I like wearing sweaters too,
I like summer though, put that answer change if you
didn't play football, because I feel like if I didn't
play football, befall spring, summer, spring, spring, the spring. But

(30:59):
we have spring football, so it's a really grind type
in high school, I really enjoy spring spring break, Like
how much coming like that aroma? I don't know. Everyone
just had to be like May. That's the weird part
of my birthdays. In winter. But winter is nice for
the first week or two. It's snowing like it's nice night.

(31:20):
It's like when it gets negative and the snows all
brown and you can't dry and you're like, damn, I
used to like winter back in Baltimore. When you're here
is different. Bro in Atlanta, it don't even snow. It's
just brick breakout. Yeah, it's just cold, just cold. What's cold?
What's Atlantic COLDEO? Last state championship senior in high school,
it was nine degrees. It was a really cold year.

(31:42):
That wasn't like that was the vortex here, wasn't it
when they had a vortex? Agree, all should have been
here for the fourth I was about to say that
we shouldn't have been home so quick. Never like never
canceled classes, like because the snow, you know, still class.

(32:04):
It was a negative forty, right, like neative forty and
like you sapped outside for like a minute two you
were getting frost place. Everyone just stayed in the dark,
I'm stepping outside. Why why everybody? So you don't step outside,
step aside? That doesn't make me do it more. I
want to feel it, Like what does it feel like
after it goes below twenty degrees? But I feel like

(32:25):
it's gonna always feel the same. Yeah, I think I
definitely disagree with you saying, but it's called sotell. Your
fingers just frozen, your nose is cold, your ears or cold,
and if you're on the scooter worse. I would not
get on the scooter, bro, no matter what the outside

(32:45):
I s outside, I'm on the scooter wiped out. I
wiped out a few times. I slid across god clock
one time. You know, like it gets from the snow.
The snow is like on the ground, but it's like
it's like mushy. Yeah. So I was on the scooter
and they have they have like those tour groups too,
right there, like walking by and I'm on a scooter
and I tried to take that left like that, I

(33:06):
was going towards Como. I was like going straight through
and I tried to take a left and I just
roll roll my scooter all the over there and the
whole tourist group is just looking at me, like. The
worst time about that is that you get up in
your pants are all wet, Like I think I'm going home. Bro,
I'm happy going home. I was. It's officially October, officially

(33:32):
spooky season. I'm excited to hear this. What's the best
Holloween customs? Have? Every one just up his waldo one time.
There's pictures on the internet, but yeah, I got them
off where a cople of people got them. I'm gonna
started out a waldo one time, but they gets my
freshman year, I did them. Remember that when I did

(33:52):
the Jesus the Jesus thing in Biana Jones staying the
next night, I'm thinking like little kid, little kid, I
feel like I dressed up as the same thing every
year Jersey No. I had the Spider Man, so everybody everybody,
but I just feel like I feel like I didn't
get that creative For Halloween. Bro, we had this guerrilla

(34:14):
costume and so we you know, you'd wear the school
right to constumes to school if Halloween was on the
school day. So I worried sixth eighth grade And the
best part about the costume was that it was like
big on me, and had like this big head to it.
And so I bring my little iPod in the class
and I would just play like boodle jump because if
I put the head on like this, and I just

(34:35):
plucked myself under the constume, so it looked like I
was paying attention to the job brod on that one year,
I think I was like eight. My mom, but I
went to CVS and about like five big a strap
like boxes and I was a mummy. She just wrapped
me in a strap from head. Yeah. I was always

(34:57):
you nerd like hawk ye e spider and a football player.
And I just wear my jersey. I like the pack
costume that came with the little drape thing and then
I had the face. I was just high, actually high.
When I was younger, my friends were toxic bro so
like we were dressed up and stuff. We would get
clowned and stuff like that. Like I was around a

(35:19):
group of people who does what and wore a mask
and like their regular clothes to asked for candies. Right,
like being around that group of people, what did she
started doing that? I started doing that like like with
the mask and st put a mask on. Yeah, I
feel like around like starting elementary school pollogy elementary school
to school. I think I was blame. I think I
started when I was like eighth grade, hard on. I

(35:44):
wish I would because stories like this. It's also always
cold here, so the big the costumes helped, you know.
I think about that that Buns Indiana. I feel like
once she got to high school, then you have, like
Frank that you're going out with stuff like that Halloween
parties to go to, and then college is even better.
So he's unlocked. Yeah, I was definitely unlocked. What y'all

(36:10):
dressing up this year? Y're dressing up? I'm dressing now.
But I thought about this for a little while dressing up.
We have to what day? What day do we play?
Play on Saturday? So game is it on Halloween the
day before Saturday? Or would be the weekend of Hallow.
That's buns. It's buns. But no, let's dress up, bro,

(36:30):
Even if we stay in the crib. He didn't do podcasts,
we could decorate. Gotta put that cookie cost remember that, bro,
some cookies? What's h alls? A favorite horror film? If
you were to suggest one horror film somebody that wants
to watch horror film, what would it be? So I
tried to watch Halloween the other day. Halloween, how want

(36:51):
was the first scary movie that I watched? Halloween Town
or like, no Halloween, Michael Halloween that was o G
that's yeah, not a Michael Myers one. That was Yeah.
That was the first scary movie I ever watched, and
I think that scared me for a long time. Was scary.
So I wanted to watch it the other day, but

(37:12):
it's like, you gotta rent it, and I have your
account on the Amazon projects. I was like, shover, I've man,
I'm not a big horror film guy, to be honest,
why not, though? Are you scared? Are you scared? I
feel I feel like Carter would be watching a horror film.
They have a jump scared Carter just like alright, I

(37:36):
mean I opposite. I never liked hunt Houses when I
was a kid. I was kind of a whin scares.
I don't so I just never liked horror films because
I don't always just think about the scenario after the
horror film, like you know. So obviously I was afraid
of the dark when I was a kid. So I
watched a scary movie, had be scared for the next week.
Watching the horror films, but I was pure pressured into it.
My sister and my mom loved falms. They love going

(37:58):
to like the haunts, house and stuff. Now I was
a little I was the youngest one obviously, but they're
like older, They're like, I enjoy it now and I'm like,
oh no, wait, so what film? Um let's see, I'm
minded it. They're terrifying, but of like a horror film
of conjuring. Obviously I didn't like it, but I thought

(38:20):
it was a good horror film. They did their job
well that a good horror film. Is the plot good
or is it good because it's scary? Yes to both. Wow,
I'm more of a like apply I think the ones
that are scary. So the ones are like based off
a real story or like you could be true, or
like you know what I'm saying, Like the ones were

(38:41):
just how did this world? Like I just couldn't even
imagine it? Like I probably my favorite horror film probably
to be Have you seen would you rather? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
I like that like this? Yeah yeah, technically got you.
I guess all right, well I guess my perception of horror.
I'm a little messed up. I can't watch movie with ghosts.

(39:02):
I let you know. I like The Purse too. I
think that's thriller. Yeah. I feel like when I think
of a horror film, I think about like killing like
Michael Myers, or on the flip side, like ghosts and spirits,
and I cannot watch those movies. Would you say, get
Out it's a horror film, no thriller, thriller, I would

(39:23):
probably say The Conjuring. I'm really into that series. Like
there's like seven movies within the series that you have
to watch, and it saw its beast of the True Story.
Sorry kid, but that's cool because they lead into the
next one, like each one answers the question from the
last one. And I think it's really expanse parts like
where you just like see the feet or like the

(39:46):
oh you know what else is? What else? Is good?
A quiet place? It's really quick. Good of the Monsters, right, yeah,
noise ye, Yeah that was good. That's a good movie. Like, yeah,
good off all that bro get off it. Yeah, it's
not a not scary, it's not it's not what's not going? Yeah,

(40:07):
like in Citious Conjuring, good to watch them, but that
that's something to me mentally, I think I've had a
personal experience, bro, Yes, but of course you have. Maybe
maybe if I have, I don't know. If I haven't,
I don't know. I don't want to know. A horror
movie I think was really scary, but like I look
at it and I'm like, Bro, I'm tripping. It was

(40:30):
your Monster House. Yes, it helped. I had an older brother,
like you said, like your mom, and I used to
climb in my mom's bed like after I watching her movie.
I don't care what time it is. My mom could
be sleeping and in any type of state I'm getting
into bed, mom, I don't care. Alright, Moving on to

(40:56):
outside the garage. You guys already know sent us in
topics to our d N. We'll talk about anything, so
hit us up. You might get a shout out. First one,
uh just from at Brian Gonzolo. If you walk up
to a Halloween bowl. Good on topic, If you walk
up to a Halloween bowl, what candy are you looking for? Snickers?
Recy's got them and the free the first, the best,

(41:19):
hundred grand bar, what bro, what are you eighty years old? Something?
I promise you hunt grand bar like that too. I
like Keith Bars, hundred grand bar kick Kat twitters like
I like bars. I like the heat bars, bro. Like

(41:43):
you like the toffee, Bro? You like the toffee with
the chocolate around here we go. You guys had a
grandma with all them, like the candies that you just
never see anywhere in stories like my grandma. Yeah, I'm like, bro,
you where you be? I can see trick or treating
and we see Connor he's looking through the ball. He's

(42:04):
like where all enjoys? That? Are y'all the type of
kid that would like take money you need to take? Yeah.
I feel like once I got to a certain age
where I understood, like it's okay if I slapped me
one more then if you see Kyle's the guy that
takes the ball out and dump it into it I was.

(42:25):
I'm like, I was all about efficiency when I was
trick or treating. So just whatever, we get a bowl out,
that's that's a lig r. Kids are hitting two houses
and he's done for the night. Are walking with your

(42:46):
parents like always checking the candy and stuff like that
for knives and stuff knives like poison. I'm like, you're
not gonna find any poison, Like you're not gonna find
Let me eat my kids be me and my brother
sisters supported on the table and my dad like what
y'all got a start picking stuff out? Like, Bro, you're

(43:08):
taking at a good candy. But we would always trade,
would be like all of us. That week of school
is the best bargaining time in my Like shark tink
fois for your package chips. I got the big sneakers,
Bart got with that. Bro. The kids who lived in

(43:28):
like the nice neighborhoods and stuff like that, they had
the best people are driving the neighborhoods. Just a yeah,
I used to do that. I used to play strategically.
I'm going with a nice crib to get the King
size bar Man back. Last topic, um, this is from
at Mark Underscore Johnson thirty four. Very different topic. What

(43:48):
you want to do after football? Is this talking like
talking about what you want to be? Cubical work. I
think I want to get into consulting. I think I'd
be good at it. But I mean, like, as far
who I want to be, I definitely want to be
like a cool uncle. You know, I'm dropping my nephew nieces,
not a dad dropping. I definitely want to be a dad,

(44:10):
but like I want to be like uncle. First, I
just want to be like the cool uncle. Everybody just
come through for Stockla like that. I got you, I said,
I dropped in whatever. I want to be an agent.
I want to be on this stage I put nowhere.
Football takes me as far as the next three years
or whatever, however much longer I'm playing college football. I

(44:30):
would like to go to law school for three years
and get him a lot degree and then try to
figure out some way some times into agency. You'll be
a good lawyer, you know why. So if you'd like
to argue and you cannot take Noah's answer, you cannot
take a different answer as it. Yeah, but your honor,
Like that's just a fact. It give me like his

(44:52):
duties represented kills somebody's like no, no, no, he didn't
mean to kill. I need you to understand, conceptualize camera,
Like come on, I feel I'm used to talking to
feel good for grace. Bro. You get some conversations and
I'm like, Bro, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm gonna argue. I'm

(45:13):
gonna argue a lot of our conversations. I feel like
it's ended with me going all right, all right, Yeah,
that's what I've been writing off for the last two
or three years or so, So could you be a
double dumber? You know? I know I could, And I
was actually just talking about this today yesterday. He thinks
that I should do it at somewhere where I would

(45:35):
actually practice um law. So it's like you should probably
go somewhere on the coast where you probably live and
understand law in that area. So I know it depends
on what football do. I play football here for three
more years, and I would do that obviously, but I
don't know. But for me right now, I think I've
said it before a couple of times, but medical school,

(45:57):
hopefully orthopedics or oncology, one of those two fields in
the medicine world. So right, what's outside of being a doctor?
Being a doctor? I think I'm always interested in probably equity,
so I would I'd probably do something like that finance
and U motor bellars and into that stuff, as you
guys know. So I probably do something with P. Yeah,

(46:19):
i'd probably be P or like branding of some sort
after football. I'm a marketing major, so brandings right at
my alley. It's not as numbers intensive, but that's how
you want to work too. What do you mean you
always say you want to work. Oh yeah, I'm excited
to work like regular. That's crazy. I've never heard some
of us. Well, I mean i've definitely heard people that's like,

(46:41):
I enjoy a passion. I want to do this, but
I don't know. Maybe I like the the whole white
picket fence, come under the tie, sit down, have a meal,
don't I don't like. I don't like that. I don't
like like that. I don't like the like how that's
the standard. I feel like you guys know this as
just like I'm I'm a minimalist. I find the idea

(47:04):
of living in a neighborhood where every house is like
the same, you know, like fense, what's up with a
white pick? I don't know. I feel like in the
front yards like like did it like wife and kids? Dog?
I feel I feel what corner field? But I don't informed.

(47:24):
I don't I don't want to be I don't want
to be in a place where everybody's not doing the
same thing. Obviously, but it's going to a job at
eight am and coming home at five and have two
kids and have as for me, I don't like. That's
weird though, because over a break in May, I did
an internship with the private equity firm, and it was
I would like, get up, get up at eight, like

(47:44):
brush my teeth, put a button down on the time.
I'm like you on a computer like zooming and working
all day and then get off. I'm like, it's a
good day. Very big brother show. I don't know, I'm

(48:05):
not to hate on that, but you're also very blessed
to have that opinion of working. Yeah, that's yeah, sure there.
We need to revisit the table in twenty years and
just see where we're at. We're all just homeless. Were like,

(48:26):
she all, I got a beard. It's hope you want
to have to revisit and it's gonna be something that
we do with our kids right here. You imagine this
is something that that we passed on to our kids. Podcast. Yeah,
I'll be crazy. Dang. I cannot wait to see everyone's
kids here. That like that makes you laugh, right, See,
one day we can run the volume. You can take

(48:48):
over Colin. We're coming for you. Inside job now. We're
gonna wrap it up here. I appreciate you guys tuning
in again this week. We'll see you guys next Monday.
Appreciate all the support you've been giving us on social
media or Twitter. Just hit a thousand followers by the way,
Thank you, thank you. Really appreciate that. UM again, really
appreciate you guys. We'll see you next week. Appreciate us,

(49:11):
Appreciate ship.
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