March 4, 2020 • 30 mins
Can you imagine hopping on a plane you cannot see, riding it through an invisible sky, taking it to the places and people you're longing to connect to?
Between the mental and spiritual layers of our world lies the Astral Plane - a place you can weave in and out of intentionally and subconsciously to work out all kinds of issues and experiences you are having here on Earth. The Astral Plane is not just a ride accessible to only mystics and shamans. It is available to us all, through energy practices and dream-states.
You may already be aware of or practice this travel consciously, or perhaps you've heard about these occurrences being described as out-of-body or near-death experiences. Tune in and join spiritual travel agents Julie and Brenda and discover how humans and spirits navigate this multi-layered realm with support, guidance, and blessings from the Other Side.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to
Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now y'all need to
know that we are obsessed with everything on the other side.
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the
energetic or two some the invisible world, life is going
to be more fun and much more serene. Heck, yes
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it can, because let's be honest, Brand Earth school is hard.
In fact, you taught me that. Let's crush eart school together.
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the other Side, a production
of I Heart Radio. Hi, Brand, Hello, my elf. How
are you today? I am great. Well, we're going to
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start today with another Julie confession. Bring it. I will
bring it. So. There are topics in our world that
I don't fully understand. Doesn't mean I don't believe, but
I just don't fully understand because I am not the
same level of expert as you are, which I know
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you want to deny, but you are. There are many
things in this world I don't understand either. You just
want to go on record. I have a feeling what
we're gonna where we're gonna go. You probably do, because
I mean, I don't know, because let's be honest, I'm
an elf and el faint Santa, and in our world,
I actually think that you are the Santa Claus. I
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just called you Sanna. I can't believe you just called me.
So I did just call you Sanna. But I'm gonna
one up that old bearded one because you're more than Santa.
You're a teacher and I think that for what I
want to talk about, like, I would love to just
sit in the classroom of Brenda, and in fact, I
think that we can do a three part series on
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this topic. Do you want to know what it is?
I am very curious, now are you? You are you
just stuck on me calling kind of moving on? But
I want to talk about the astral plane. Okay, I've
heard about it. I think I've accidentally been in it,
or or I know I've been in it. What do
you want to know? I just I want to know everything.
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So let's start with what it is, So you go,
teacher Santa. So we've talked about the chakra system and
the layers, and the astro plane is a specific layer
that's between the mental layer and the etheric layer. So
it's in the middle there and the astral plane. Many
people would talk about it in terms of being a
duplicated physical plane. Well, the astro plane itself has seven layers,
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and we don't need to go into all seven layers
of it. But you would think of like the lowest
layer being the most challenging. Some people would call it hell,
Like it's really dark and heavy and where we experienced
all of our challenges and all our limitations, all our
lowest vibration thoughts. We've all been there enough for very long. Yeah,
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we've write some people move in, some people just move
through a lot of people in the balls before so
I so, And at the highest vibration it would on
the other end of the spectrum, it would be considered heaven. Right.
It's a place of great joy, of great ease, love, health,
well being, abundance, all those things. At the very high
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end in between those layers are the spiritual realm. Um,
this is where spirits reside because it's an energetic plane,
this plane that we're talking about, it's a meditative space.
It is again sleep vibrations are here, so this is
often what people experience as they sleep. So do we
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leave our bodies to go there? Definitely, definitely. All right,
so we leave our body to go to all these
To be clear, I just want to say a word
about that. Okay, So before you think like, okay, this
version of leaving our bodies, right, we know that we
have different layers, and so there's a part of our
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spiritual self that is always attached to our bodies until
the day we take our last breath and then we
release the body. So when we talk about leaving our bodies,
it means an aspect, the astral plane is the astral
layer of us goes to the astral plane, but our
spirit is still attached to our body. So I don't
want people to be thinking of like the Walking Dead
going on here. Look at you being all reference what
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is to happen? Just right? That was incredible? Okay, So wait,
so Santa just became a colt. Oh my god, it
was amazing. You're like, uh oh the Walking Dead Santa.
Just because I don't understand something this, I mean, I
haven't read about it. Is there like a silver silver cord? Yeah,
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tell us about that. We have a silic cord. God,
thank you. She would never end. So the silver cord
is what keeps us tethered to our bodies energetically. It's
like that, for instance, we go to the astral plane
to work out all kinds of things because we've got
a lot of things to work out here on Earth
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school and when we go to the astral plane to
figure things out to gain deeper understanding in situations, we
can swim around in them, seeing from different aspects. It
can be a very useful plane to gather information and guidance.
We can connect with our loved ones on this plane
passed on. We can connecting with our spirit guides, we
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can connect with the larger aspect of ourselves. So there's
all kinds of information and experiences and insight for us
at this level. I think before I learned how to
communicate with our deceased loved ones, that they would come
to me during the sleep time. Oh gosh, yes, yeah,
because that was probably the only opportunity they had to
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get to me because my head was so busy, right,
and if you don't stop and have time for meditation,
there's no other way, right. So it's the only time
when you're unconscious in their space to either speed up
your frequency or your vibration in the astral plane, or
slow your mental game right, the mental body down. And
so in this way, I just want to take a
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minute to talk about This won't be the only time
we talk about it, but the difference between dreaming right
where we actually are our conscious mind is working things
out informed by the unconscious right, so they create images
and experiences for us to work things out and understand
and integrate things we didn't get to finish during the
day because our days are so full. And there's also
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an aspect of us when we go to the astral
plane where we have connections and reunions with our loved
ones who have passed on, and it's so real. It's
when people wake up and they're crying or they're laughing,
or they feel great or they're just so moved because
we really think of this more as a visitation, because
it was an actual experience with that spirit. Is that helpful.
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It's incredibly helpful, and it just it reminds me of
the first one I ever remembered was when Mona passed
and I didn't even know she had passed yet, and
she came to see me and kissed me on the
forehead and said, everything's going to be okay. And I'm like,
what the hell is going on? Right? And then within
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minutes got a phone call. Thank you for sharing that example,
because so many people have this experience of being visited
by spirits before they know that they've that person has passed,
and this is what they do. Instantly, their spirit goes
out and gives a blessing, a goodbye, a thank you
to their beloved. My aunt Marline did it too. Yeah,
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they all come see mebe when they jump. Yeah, they're like,
oh hey, let's go see you. It's just this burst
of love. So is it fair to say that we
all travel to the astral plane? So we all have
a ticket. Yeah, we have a plane ticket, an astral
plane ticket, for sure. Again, you can do it in
a conscious way through meditation or sometimes an energy practice
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would over that would be for you some people, whether
it's doing a raiky session, some people will connect into
the information in the astral plane, or it's when we sleep,
anytime we go unconscious, our astral layer will rise up
and kind of travel all over. And we call it
astral projection or astral travel. As that happened to you,
it happens to all of us. So there is no
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one you would ask that question to that would say no,
Now some of us are I know all about it,
but no, I haven't done it, never done it, never
done it. Every once in a while people will have
an experience of landing back in their body after a travel,
after a journey of this type, when they're sleeping, and
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so usually that would be an unconscious intention, although some
people do it consciously. So I have this friend will
call it Sally. Every woman every guy is Jim. We
are two old white women that we have our names are.
So that's what came up in our talking. So Sally
has a very advanced meditation practice, and she also has
a very expansive world, like she's a global traveler, and
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so her body system gets off, you know, just making
it through the day is hard, which travels these different
time zones. So what she will do is set the
intention as she goes to bed, Oh, I gotta clean
up this conversation that I didn't get to finish, or
I'm having a conflict with my beloved and I want
to smooth that out, and I can't call him right
now because it's the middle of the night. So she
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will set these all up in her astral travel ticket
now playing tickets in her tinerary. I want to stop here,
I want to stop here. I wanta stop here. And
these are the agenda items I'll do, I will have
And what happens is then in the morning or in
her morning, she'll wake up and turn on her phone
and get texting. You know, I was thinking about what happened,
and you know, like it'll all be resolved. So she
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does it with a great deal of intention and high
blasting energy, and it's it's a really fun and expansive
experience for her. But there are many ways that we
can work and activate the astral plane that are really useful.
So haven't you connected with her before? Like, don't like,
wasn't she pregnant? She the one that was that was
a different we'll call her Sally May. It was a
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different Sally Sally May. Okay, So after this break, we're
gonna hear about Sally May. Yes, come back, and we'll
hear about the Sally May connection. Welcome back. So I
was telling you about my friend Sally May, who was
pregnant with her first child. And Sally and I are
really good friends and we talked all the time, and
of course I would fall asleep, sending her in her
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baby raiky and you know, trauma, wanting just the best
experience for her birth thing, for her pregnancy, and just
trying to send all the love and support I could
because we didn't live in the same city. And one morning,
I wake up the first thing in the morning, and
I'm craving a Pepperoni pizza. I'm like, I've never known
you to order a pepper and and look, I love
me some pizza, there is no doubt, But that was
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not Pepperoni is not one I've ever heard. Yeah, it's
just it's just not my jam. Right, I got nothing
against it, but I'll eat it if it's there. But yeah,
and I do like jam, but it was just like, okay, wow,
it's and I'm having this craving and I go through
my day and I got my calls and you know
what's happening. And at lunch, I finally just cave to
it because it is like in my system, in my cells,
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and I order a Pepperoni pizza for lunch, a whole pizza.
Like I didn't get a large, but you know, it's
like a who's going to eat a whole pizza for lunch.
It's fine if you admit you got a large, it's okay.
I did not get large. You don't have to light everybody.
And I take and so I take them by to
this pizza and I'm like, what is happened like this?
It didn't do it? You know, like when you crave
something and you finally get it, like, oh, I'm so excited. Yeah, no,
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it's just like whatever, you know. And then I went
on with my day. In the afternoon, I'm talking to Sally.
We have this call and she's like, oh my goodness,
I have been craving Pepperoni pizza. I'm like, yeah, well
I got your pizza here girl. So in the night,
as I set up this intention to work with her, right,
I'm tapping in. We're having this deep connection on the
astral plane. I wake up and write, just as my
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other friends Ali had resolutions for her conflicts or her misunderstandings,
I wake up in the morning with a Pepperoni pizza craving. Right,
these connections we make are real, And that's just a
silly story, but it's such a great actual story for
how we have these connections. Well, because you knew it
wasn't yours, right. I mean you knew well you had
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the craving, but it was like, but I didn't know
until I took the bite. I'm like, this isn't doing
it for me, Like I didn't know why I was
craving it. I didn't think, oh, I set this up
and I did this work with her because I just
woke up and started my day, right, I didn't have
that point of reflection. And so now that was a
snap everyone. And because I'm sitting so far away from me,
you can't point me on the forehasd but you're snapping.
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And that was a snap, thank you. But this point
and when I took the bite and I realized, oh,
this isn't me, this isn't satisfying because this was never
my craving. Oh my goodness, Like, what am I doing
here with this pizza? What am I going to do
with it? Sally? I got your pizza. So we have
conscious and unconscious way that we travel, right, Like those
are kind of the two. So, because this was a
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newer topic for me, I was up all night studying
and it's very dangerous when your elf is up all
night reading. So what did you discover? You know, you're
taking this Earth school seriously, taking the Insiders Guide to
the Other Side as my class very seriously. What I
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stumbled upon, and it was very interesting, was what the
Bible talks about and says about astral projection. So I
thought I would share and I'm going to read because
I did not pay attention in Bible study when I
was a child in my Oklahoma. So did they teach
astral projection in Oklahoma? Well, they taught Well, I don't know.
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I didn't pay It would have made attention, I could
tell you, but I didn't. So I have no earthly idea,
just astral idea. That it was an aattional idea. But
I found this to be interesting, So it's a is
the Bible explicitly warns against occult practice or sorcery ps
one of my favorite words of sorcery? Does it define
what a cult is? I'm sorry, I'm singing Stevie Nick
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Sorcerer in my head right now. What did you ask me?
Does does it define? Let's find out? Or sorcery? And
the warning can be applied to voluntary out of body
experiences and astral projections. God's commands are always for our good,
and he capital age commands us to stay far away
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from a cult practices. There is great potential when trying
to access the spiritual world of opening oneself up to
demons who can lie to us about God and confuse
our minds. I think what they talk about, because I
read deeper into this is intentionally leaving your body is
how they define at least astral projection. They don't define
a cult at least in what I've been reading. So
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many things within my head listening to that, So thank
you for sharing that. Oh there's more to share, Okay,
Well it's just that. I mean, when you think of
when we get distracted, I think it's more when we're
awake and not paying attention, like that's the most dangerous thing.
When we're asleep, we can bring information back and be
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able to choose, Like in my case, I ordered a
pizza and then said this isn't for me, right. Sometimes
you have to go through the action to learn this
isn't aligned with who I am. But when we're awake
and we're moving through the world and we get under
the influence of whether it's an addiction or just watching
too much TV or whatever it is that we're doing,
we can lose ourselves. Does this make sense like that?
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And so that's what I think of his deception when
we lose ourselves and our inner guidance like this is
are more about control, right, like there is one in particular.
I got so obsessed with this lest hardly slept um
dealing with it, very tired of today because of this
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levitical Leviticus thanks nineteen Colon twenty six. I have no
idea how this stuff is said. I just want to say, Colon,
you are not to eat anything containing blood, engage in
occult practices, or practice fortune telling. Well, that just makes
Christianity no damn fun to me, because these are all
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the good things, um, but it feels very controlling to me. Listen,
I'm not going to trample on anybody's um religion because
I actually think there's amazing things out of all of them.
But this feels like control. Because what we've talked about
with all of this is about freedom, right, when we
talked about earth School, when we've talked about astrol, it's
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about you know, finding freedom in connecting. None of these
things sound bad to me. The stuff that we've been
talking about, and what's really interesting is there's this really
quick story, and this is how it looks like religion
turned on itself. There was a pastor. His name is
Don Piper. He wrote the book called Ninety Minutes in Heaven.
So he was in an almost fatal car accident. Well
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it was fatal actually because I think what he did
is he had an inde. So when he came back
death experience, that was for you guys, because I knew
what it was. I know, you knew kind of that
shorthand underneath the microphone sort of. I like it. So
he died and came back. And what's interesting is this
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is what I read is written from the perspective of
deeply devout Christian And what he said was that whether
or not Piper did actually see Heaven or spend time
there was debatable, and in the end nobody but God knows, okay.
But what Pastor Dawn came back saying is that he
could speak comfort to grieving people at funerals with more
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authority than he had in the past because of this experience,
which I think is incredible because those that I know
that I've had indes came back as different owls, like
they talked about a completely class completely transformed. Yeah, it's
like being nine years old and and getting a doctorate degree.
I mean, it's like that's how fast their education went.
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But obviously this guy wants to give people hope. But
here's what they say, however, it is dead wrong, no
pun intended right, love a good pun which is unintended
by them to say that his own subjective experience will
give him more authority to administer the hope of heaven
to others. Scripture by itself, apart from our experience, is
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the authority. They're rejecting one of their own. Yes, they're
rejecting one of their own. But the thing that is
so funny, like, so this is you opened with it
is not permissible to consciously go into the astro plane,
right right, But if you slip into it, it's okay,
give into it. What they say is you unintendedly go
into it. Is that to treat it as if it
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were a dream and it wasn't real. So so it's
about saying this, if you go into a intentionally, shame
on you, because the demon is going to slide in
there and kick your ass. Which I think what they're
doing is are harkening back to the serpent and Adam
and Eve, and when the serpent tries to convince them
to move away from God. Is what it sounds like
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to me, is the reasoning for that. It's weird. I
knew that. Um, I was gonna say. You can see
the surprise look on our faces, like your eyes got
really big. It's weird. I knew that. It's weird. I
knew that. But when but when you go in unconsciously,
they're saying that it's all fake and it's all false.
So either way, they're taking away your power. It's just
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access to more information, more wisdom. And it makes sense. Right.
What's the quote The power at the top of organization
are structured to sustain the power at top of the organizations,
and that's what in this case the church is doing.
That says we will control your dreams and your insights, right,
which is which is an organization? It makes sense to me.
I mean it's not it's not original, but it makes sense.
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Or maybe it is the original version. I don't know,
and corporations just duplicated it, you know, I doubt they
used that kind of language. Yeah, I'm so clearly this
was written later in a later version of it. But
I just think consist because I think it's more about
control and about taking some I mean, you're far more
kind about all of this, I think, probably than I.
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And because I think what we are trying to achieve
and sharing these types of stories and these information is
for people to find freedom. And then you can stumble
upon this kind of stuff that tells you know, you're
not allowed, you're a not allowed to do it or
believe in it. And I just think it's important to
bring this stuff up just so everybody can see the
contrast for these types of topics, because we come into
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these with a lot of positivity because we've experienced it
most well, I've experienced a lot of it. You've experienced
all of it, and and I have not met a
nicer human on the planet than you. So you don't
seem like somebody who you know is evil and the
devil's come in to get them. So, but I think
it's important to put it out there because I hope
that some of our listeners are practicing Christians and Muslims
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and Judaism and Hinduism and Buddhism and and all the isms,
and it opens her mind. Well, And this is the exploration. Right,
we're insider's guide to the other side. We're not the authority.
We're a guide on the side to the other side.
Right that says, hey, this might be for you, Hey,
this might be for you, and to trust your own
guidance in drawing towards and into and moving around in um.
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That's that's our intention and opening these conversations up to
invite you to it. And we'll get to more reasons
why we brought in the astral plane ticket concept for
you when we come back after this break. So, Brian,
I think I've done this, actually know I've done this
astral projection, and I know I've done it consciously. It
was a night, it was like a couple of years ago,
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and I looked at Suzanne and for some reason, like
sometimes I really don't know why I do certain things.
I really don't. I don't I believe you, I don't know.
And I turned to her and I said, you know,
I'm gonna go check in on our Houston people. And
Suzanne's from Houston, so she has a lot of family
members there and a lot of friends there. And I said,
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I'm gonna go check in on your sister. And so
I went and I checked in on her sister. I'm like,
she's in a different room. She's in the guest room.
That's strange because I could see her in that room.
I said, I want to check on your friend Wanda.
Then her nickname is Wicked Wanda, and not because she's wicked,
it's because she's tall and she's stunning. Way yeah, And
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so I went to go check on Wicked Wanda, and
I turned to Susan and I went, oh, my gosh,
this is so strange. She's sleeping on her sofa tonight
and she's I've never said, I've never heard her talk
of that. Never. She's always been go to the the bedroom,
go to bed, go to I said, so in the morning,
let's let's just find out and see where she was.
And so Suzanne calls Wicked Wanda, and Wanda was like, yeah,
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it was weird. I slept on my couch because Susanne,
where'd you sleep last night? She I don't know why
you're asking, but you are. I slept on the couch.
And Suzanne looked at me and the body why are
you asking? And she's like, oh my god, And I
will tell you. My first thought, Uh, well was amazement.
But the second one was I probably shouldn't be doing this.
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This seems rude. This seems like I'm jumping some boundaries
that I should not be doing. So it's a little
bit of that jump. Look later, I think it's really
what I do, or we'll shoot the name or whateverever
it goes. Well, first of all, checking it on your family.
There's usually a consent of love, but you do want
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to get the actual consent so you're not violating people's boundaries.
So that's always a nice because he knows what they're doing.
Because there are certain things I don't need to see,
that's correct, tont I want to see people do. And
my point is that I believe, Um, one reason why
perhaps you were inspired to do this is for your
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own affirmation. That doesn't mean that you need did to
do it ever again, but to know that it's real. Right,
So it's really what this ability, this astral playing connection
is real, and so that's the information you got, so
you don't ever need to do it again in this
particular way. Yes, right, that's why I knew I shouldn't
do it again. Yeah, Now there are situations that do happen,
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UM where people will ask me, can you check on this?
Can you check on this situation? Can you check? And
so I've got permission, and that's right. I think the
key is permission. Permission is very key. And so I
have a little story about that where I fell into it. Right.
So it was in the dream state, and so I
wake up and my beloved and I are getting ready
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to go on a trip. We have a conference and
we're going to go together. And I wake up and
I'm like, oh, gosh, I had a great dream where
we were walking on a beach together. And what I
didn't know is that he was planning a little extra
bonus for us to spend some time to go to
leave the conference and go up to Santa Barbara and
spent some time on the beach. And I had no
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idea that He's like, will you give it a break?
You know when you have a weird thing when you
see geographies, right, So I often will have the experience
of being in a certain area of the world or
the country. So I'll be like, oh, I was in
the southwester or I was in Canada or something. I'll
have the geographical experience, but I don't always have the
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specific of the individual or the work or the transmission
that was done. And what I have been shown is
that there are things that I don't need to recall
and that it's not purposeful, so they just don't bother sticking.
It's not like I'm doing some veiled work, but it's
just specific for that individual, and so it's done and gone.
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But I do have the geographical experience, which is why
I came back with, Oh, I had this dream that
we were walking on the beach. It's like, there are
no surprises. That's so interesting that that's one of Yeah,
it's it's a little unusual, but what and says, It's
not unusual for me to get emails or text or
voicemels or whatever that people contact me and we'll say
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you were in my dream last night, and this is
what you told me. I get that all the time,
by the way. Yeah, I get people saying you're in
my dream. I'm like, oh, please, was I skinning? If
you're going to dream about me, I need to be fan.
I want to be okay skinny, right, I don't want
my hair to be clean. Did you comb your hair?
Margaret wants to know that question. So these are just
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connection points again, And usually when I'm hearing from someone,
it's usually like a guidance point I'm giving them, like, hey,
what about this? Not that long ago someone told me
I showed up and said, hey, you need to stop
drinking for forty days. And I'm like, okay, really not
a personal agenda on my part, but you know, but
there was something between us where we had something where
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this would be useful, and she took it for real
and like had an incredible experience, had an incredible life
transforming experience of her experiencing her life without alcohol for
forty days. Look at you while just going around, just
tapping in everybody's dream. But my point is there's all
kinds of things, all kinds of situations, all kinds of
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wisdom that we have access to. And this astral plane,
it's an amazing space to tap into to know that
it's there for you. It's an extraordinary place that we
all have a ticket to it, that we all have
a ticket. So this can be I think the astral plane.
The idea of this, the idea of going and conscious,
going and unconscious, can be a very complicated concept for people,
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and if you haven't experienced it, it actually requires I
think quiet leap or if you haven't acknowledged that you've
experienced because you have experienced it, is there a way
that everyone can consciously, we would say is intentionally intentionally
to intentionally navigate into it would just be meditation create
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that sacred space with permission. Well even if you even
if you're not going into connect with someone else, you're
just going into dive into your own information, which is
super helpful people. And really you have plenty of stuff
going out in your own space. You don't need to
go check out Houston or anywhere else. But a no
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without an that sounds pretty good, okay, But it's this
space where you have all kinds of information and insight
to gain. And when you can slow your mind, slow
the activity, and get into sacred space. And it's what
you may notice is that your body just gets a
little fuzzy like as your spirit moves away from it.
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You're obviously still connected, as we established in the beginning
by the silver cord, and sometimes it's literally just thirty
seconds is even three seconds in the astral plane will
be a huge download of insight. And it doesn't mean
that when you come out of meditation it'll be easy
access and totally clear. It may unfold with recollection over
the days and weeks and hours ahead, so let it unfold.
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Don't go in expecting I spent three minutes in there.
I need, you know, three years of information. Like, don't
get all snippy. That's not how it works. But to
be open to it and practice makes the master. So
the more you practice, the more it pays off, just
like it with anything else. We're going to call this
the Brenda nineteen colon. Please don't that astual projection is okay.
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You can go. Yes, you can go. You can learn
a lot, and you can travel on the astro plane
without having to go through t s A. It's all good.
See you on the astro plane. Thanks for joining us, everyone,
and a special thanks to our producer Maya Cole, who
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Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to
Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now y'all need to
know that we are obsessed with everything on the other side.
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the
energetic or two some the invisible world, life is going
to be more fun and much more serene. Heck, yes
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it can, because let's be honest, Brand Earth school is hard.
In fact, you taught me that. Let's crush eart school together.
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the other Side, a production
of I Heart Radio. Hi, Brand, Hello, my elf. How
are you today? I am great. Well, we're going to
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start today with another Julie confession. Bring it. I will
bring it. So. There are topics in our world that
I don't fully understand. Doesn't mean I don't believe, but
I just don't fully understand because I am not the
same level of expert as you are, which I know
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you want to deny, but you are. There are many
things in this world I don't understand either. You just
want to go on record. I have a feeling what
we're gonna where we're gonna go. You probably do, because
I mean, I don't know, because let's be honest, I'm
an elf and el faint Santa, and in our world,
I actually think that you are the Santa Claus. I
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just called you Sanna. I can't believe you just called me.
So I did just call you Sanna. But I'm gonna
one up that old bearded one because you're more than Santa.
You're a teacher and I think that for what I
want to talk about, like, I would love to just
sit in the classroom of Brenda, and in fact, I
think that we can do a three part series on
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this topic. Do you want to know what it is?
I am very curious, now are you? You are you
just stuck on me calling kind of moving on? But
I want to talk about the astral plane. Okay, I've
heard about it. I think I've accidentally been in it,
or or I know I've been in it. What do
you want to know? I just I want to know everything.
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So let's start with what it is, So you go,
teacher Santa. So we've talked about the chakra system and
the layers, and the astro plane is a specific layer
that's between the mental layer and the etheric layer. So
it's in the middle there and the astral plane. Many
people would talk about it in terms of being a
duplicated physical plane. Well, the astro plane itself has seven layers,
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and we don't need to go into all seven layers
of it. But you would think of like the lowest
layer being the most challenging. Some people would call it hell,
Like it's really dark and heavy and where we experienced
all of our challenges and all our limitations, all our
lowest vibration thoughts. We've all been there enough for very long. Yeah,
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we've write some people move in, some people just move
through a lot of people in the balls before so
I so, And at the highest vibration it would on
the other end of the spectrum, it would be considered heaven. Right.
It's a place of great joy, of great ease, love, health,
well being, abundance, all those things. At the very high
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end in between those layers are the spiritual realm. Um,
this is where spirits reside because it's an energetic plane,
this plane that we're talking about, it's a meditative space.
It is again sleep vibrations are here, so this is
often what people experience as they sleep. So do we
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leave our bodies to go there? Definitely, definitely. All right,
so we leave our body to go to all these
To be clear, I just want to say a word
about that. Okay, So before you think like, okay, this
version of leaving our bodies, right, we know that we
have different layers, and so there's a part of our
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spiritual self that is always attached to our bodies until
the day we take our last breath and then we
release the body. So when we talk about leaving our bodies,
it means an aspect, the astral plane is the astral
layer of us goes to the astral plane, but our
spirit is still attached to our body. So I don't
want people to be thinking of like the Walking Dead
going on here. Look at you being all reference what
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is to happen? Just right? That was incredible? Okay, So wait,
so Santa just became a colt. Oh my god, it
was amazing. You're like, uh oh the Walking Dead Santa.
Just because I don't understand something this, I mean, I
haven't read about it. Is there like a silver silver cord? Yeah,
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tell us about that. We have a silic cord. God,
thank you. She would never end. So the silver cord
is what keeps us tethered to our bodies energetically. It's
like that, for instance, we go to the astral plane
to work out all kinds of things because we've got
a lot of things to work out here on Earth
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school and when we go to the astral plane to
figure things out to gain deeper understanding in situations, we
can swim around in them, seeing from different aspects. It
can be a very useful plane to gather information and guidance.
We can connect with our loved ones on this plane
passed on. We can connecting with our spirit guides, we
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can connect with the larger aspect of ourselves. So there's
all kinds of information and experiences and insight for us
at this level. I think before I learned how to
communicate with our deceased loved ones, that they would come
to me during the sleep time. Oh gosh, yes, yeah,
because that was probably the only opportunity they had to
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get to me because my head was so busy, right,
and if you don't stop and have time for meditation,
there's no other way, right. So it's the only time
when you're unconscious in their space to either speed up
your frequency or your vibration in the astral plane, or
slow your mental game right, the mental body down. And
so in this way, I just want to take a
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minute to talk about This won't be the only time
we talk about it, but the difference between dreaming right
where we actually are our conscious mind is working things
out informed by the unconscious right, so they create images
and experiences for us to work things out and understand
and integrate things we didn't get to finish during the
day because our days are so full. And there's also
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an aspect of us when we go to the astral
plane where we have connections and reunions with our loved
ones who have passed on, and it's so real. It's
when people wake up and they're crying or they're laughing,
or they feel great or they're just so moved because
we really think of this more as a visitation, because
it was an actual experience with that spirit. Is that helpful.
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It's incredibly helpful, and it just it reminds me of
the first one I ever remembered was when Mona passed
and I didn't even know she had passed yet, and
she came to see me and kissed me on the
forehead and said, everything's going to be okay. And I'm like,
what the hell is going on? Right? And then within
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minutes got a phone call. Thank you for sharing that example,
because so many people have this experience of being visited
by spirits before they know that they've that person has passed,
and this is what they do. Instantly, their spirit goes
out and gives a blessing, a goodbye, a thank you
to their beloved. My aunt Marline did it too. Yeah,
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they all come see mebe when they jump. Yeah, they're like,
oh hey, let's go see you. It's just this burst
of love. So is it fair to say that we
all travel to the astral plane? So we all have
a ticket. Yeah, we have a plane ticket, an astral
plane ticket, for sure. Again, you can do it in
a conscious way through meditation or sometimes an energy practice
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would over that would be for you some people, whether
it's doing a raiky session, some people will connect into
the information in the astral plane, or it's when we sleep,
anytime we go unconscious, our astral layer will rise up
and kind of travel all over. And we call it
astral projection or astral travel. As that happened to you,
it happens to all of us. So there is no
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one you would ask that question to that would say no,
Now some of us are I know all about it,
but no, I haven't done it, never done it, never
done it. Every once in a while people will have
an experience of landing back in their body after a travel,
after a journey of this type, when they're sleeping, and
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so usually that would be an unconscious intention, although some
people do it consciously. So I have this friend will
call it Sally. Every woman every guy is Jim. We
are two old white women that we have our names are.
So that's what came up in our talking. So Sally
has a very advanced meditation practice, and she also has
a very expansive world, like she's a global traveler, and
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so her body system gets off, you know, just making
it through the day is hard, which travels these different
time zones. So what she will do is set the
intention as she goes to bed, Oh, I gotta clean
up this conversation that I didn't get to finish, or
I'm having a conflict with my beloved and I want
to smooth that out, and I can't call him right
now because it's the middle of the night. So she
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will set these all up in her astral travel ticket
now playing tickets in her tinerary. I want to stop here,
I want to stop here. I wanta stop here. And
these are the agenda items I'll do, I will have
And what happens is then in the morning or in
her morning, she'll wake up and turn on her phone
and get texting. You know, I was thinking about what happened,
and you know, like it'll all be resolved. So she
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does it with a great deal of intention and high
blasting energy, and it's it's a really fun and expansive
experience for her. But there are many ways that we
can work and activate the astral plane that are really useful.
So haven't you connected with her before? Like, don't like,
wasn't she pregnant? She the one that was that was
a different we'll call her Sally May. It was a
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different Sally Sally May. Okay, So after this break, we're
gonna hear about Sally May. Yes, come back, and we'll
hear about the Sally May connection. Welcome back. So I
was telling you about my friend Sally May, who was
pregnant with her first child. And Sally and I are
really good friends and we talked all the time, and
of course I would fall asleep, sending her in her
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baby raiky and you know, trauma, wanting just the best
experience for her birth thing, for her pregnancy, and just
trying to send all the love and support I could
because we didn't live in the same city. And one morning,
I wake up the first thing in the morning, and
I'm craving a Pepperoni pizza. I'm like, I've never known
you to order a pepper and and look, I love
me some pizza, there is no doubt, But that was
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not Pepperoni is not one I've ever heard. Yeah, it's
just it's just not my jam. Right, I got nothing
against it, but I'll eat it if it's there. But yeah,
and I do like jam, but it was just like, okay, wow,
it's and I'm having this craving and I go through
my day and I got my calls and you know
what's happening. And at lunch, I finally just cave to
it because it is like in my system, in my cells,
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and I order a Pepperoni pizza for lunch, a whole pizza.
Like I didn't get a large, but you know, it's
like a who's going to eat a whole pizza for lunch.
It's fine if you admit you got a large, it's okay.
I did not get large. You don't have to light everybody.
And I take and so I take them by to
this pizza and I'm like, what is happened like this?
It didn't do it? You know, like when you crave
something and you finally get it, like, oh, I'm so excited. Yeah, no,
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it's just like whatever, you know. And then I went
on with my day. In the afternoon, I'm talking to Sally.
We have this call and she's like, oh my goodness,
I have been craving Pepperoni pizza. I'm like, yeah, well
I got your pizza here girl. So in the night,
as I set up this intention to work with her, right,
I'm tapping in. We're having this deep connection on the
astral plane. I wake up and write, just as my
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other friends Ali had resolutions for her conflicts or her misunderstandings,
I wake up in the morning with a Pepperoni pizza craving. Right,
these connections we make are real, And that's just a
silly story, but it's such a great actual story for
how we have these connections. Well, because you knew it
wasn't yours, right. I mean you knew well you had
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the craving, but it was like, but I didn't know
until I took the bite. I'm like, this isn't doing
it for me, Like I didn't know why I was
craving it. I didn't think, oh, I set this up
and I did this work with her because I just
woke up and started my day, right, I didn't have
that point of reflection. And so now that was a
snap everyone. And because I'm sitting so far away from me,
you can't point me on the forehasd but you're snapping.
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And that was a snap, thank you. But this point
and when I took the bite and I realized, oh,
this isn't me, this isn't satisfying because this was never
my craving. Oh my goodness, Like, what am I doing
here with this pizza? What am I going to do
with it? Sally? I got your pizza. So we have
conscious and unconscious way that we travel, right, Like those
are kind of the two. So, because this was a
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newer topic for me, I was up all night studying
and it's very dangerous when your elf is up all
night reading. So what did you discover? You know, you're
taking this Earth school seriously, taking the Insiders Guide to
the Other Side as my class very seriously. What I
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stumbled upon, and it was very interesting, was what the
Bible talks about and says about astral projection. So I
thought I would share and I'm going to read because
I did not pay attention in Bible study when I
was a child in my Oklahoma. So did they teach
astral projection in Oklahoma? Well, they taught Well, I don't know.
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I didn't pay It would have made attention, I could
tell you, but I didn't. So I have no earthly idea,
just astral idea. That it was an aattional idea. But
I found this to be interesting, So it's a is
the Bible explicitly warns against occult practice or sorcery ps
one of my favorite words of sorcery? Does it define
what a cult is? I'm sorry, I'm singing Stevie Nick
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Sorcerer in my head right now. What did you ask me?
Does does it define? Let's find out? Or sorcery? And
the warning can be applied to voluntary out of body
experiences and astral projections. God's commands are always for our good,
and he capital age commands us to stay far away
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from a cult practices. There is great potential when trying
to access the spiritual world of opening oneself up to
demons who can lie to us about God and confuse
our minds. I think what they talk about, because I
read deeper into this is intentionally leaving your body is
how they define at least astral projection. They don't define
a cult at least in what I've been reading. So
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many things within my head listening to that, So thank
you for sharing that. Oh there's more to share, Okay,
Well it's just that. I mean, when you think of
when we get distracted, I think it's more when we're
awake and not paying attention, like that's the most dangerous thing.
When we're asleep, we can bring information back and be
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able to choose, Like in my case, I ordered a
pizza and then said this isn't for me, right. Sometimes
you have to go through the action to learn this
isn't aligned with who I am. But when we're awake
and we're moving through the world and we get under
the influence of whether it's an addiction or just watching
too much TV or whatever it is that we're doing,
we can lose ourselves. Does this make sense like that?
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And so that's what I think of his deception when
we lose ourselves and our inner guidance like this is
are more about control, right, like there is one in particular.
I got so obsessed with this lest hardly slept um
dealing with it, very tired of today because of this
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levitical Leviticus thanks nineteen Colon twenty six. I have no
idea how this stuff is said. I just want to say, Colon,
you are not to eat anything containing blood, engage in
occult practices, or practice fortune telling. Well, that just makes
Christianity no damn fun to me, because these are all
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the good things, um, but it feels very controlling to me. Listen,
I'm not going to trample on anybody's um religion because
I actually think there's amazing things out of all of them.
But this feels like control. Because what we've talked about
with all of this is about freedom, right, when we
talked about earth School, when we've talked about astrol, it's
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about you know, finding freedom in connecting. None of these
things sound bad to me. The stuff that we've been
talking about, and what's really interesting is there's this really
quick story, and this is how it looks like religion
turned on itself. There was a pastor. His name is
Don Piper. He wrote the book called Ninety Minutes in Heaven.
So he was in an almost fatal car accident. Well
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it was fatal actually because I think what he did
is he had an inde. So when he came back
death experience, that was for you guys, because I knew
what it was. I know, you knew kind of that
shorthand underneath the microphone sort of. I like it. So
he died and came back. And what's interesting is this
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is what I read is written from the perspective of
deeply devout Christian And what he said was that whether
or not Piper did actually see Heaven or spend time
there was debatable, and in the end nobody but God knows, okay.
But what Pastor Dawn came back saying is that he
could speak comfort to grieving people at funerals with more
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authority than he had in the past because of this experience,
which I think is incredible because those that I know
that I've had indes came back as different owls, like
they talked about a completely class completely transformed. Yeah, it's
like being nine years old and and getting a doctorate degree.
I mean, it's like that's how fast their education went.
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But obviously this guy wants to give people hope. But
here's what they say, however, it is dead wrong, no
pun intended right, love a good pun which is unintended
by them to say that his own subjective experience will
give him more authority to administer the hope of heaven
to others. Scripture by itself, apart from our experience, is
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the authority. They're rejecting one of their own. Yes, they're
rejecting one of their own. But the thing that is
so funny, like, so this is you opened with it
is not permissible to consciously go into the astro plane,
right right, But if you slip into it, it's okay,
give into it. What they say is you unintendedly go
into it. Is that to treat it as if it
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were a dream and it wasn't real. So so it's
about saying this, if you go into a intentionally, shame
on you, because the demon is going to slide in
there and kick your ass. Which I think what they're
doing is are harkening back to the serpent and Adam
and Eve, and when the serpent tries to convince them
to move away from God. Is what it sounds like
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to me, is the reasoning for that. It's weird. I
knew that. Um, I was gonna say. You can see
the surprise look on our faces, like your eyes got
really big. It's weird. I knew that. It's weird. I
knew that. But when but when you go in unconsciously,
they're saying that it's all fake and it's all false.
So either way, they're taking away your power. It's just
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access to more information, more wisdom. And it makes sense. Right.
What's the quote The power at the top of organization
are structured to sustain the power at top of the organizations,
and that's what in this case the church is doing.
That says we will control your dreams and your insights, right,
which is which is an organization? It makes sense to me.
I mean it's not it's not original, but it makes sense.
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Or maybe it is the original version. I don't know,
and corporations just duplicated it, you know, I doubt they
used that kind of language. Yeah, I'm so clearly this
was written later in a later version of it. But
I just think consist because I think it's more about
control and about taking some I mean, you're far more
kind about all of this, I think, probably than I.
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And because I think what we are trying to achieve
and sharing these types of stories and these information is
for people to find freedom. And then you can stumble
upon this kind of stuff that tells you know, you're
not allowed, you're a not allowed to do it or
believe in it. And I just think it's important to
bring this stuff up just so everybody can see the
contrast for these types of topics, because we come into
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these with a lot of positivity because we've experienced it
most well, I've experienced a lot of it. You've experienced
all of it, and and I have not met a
nicer human on the planet than you. So you don't
seem like somebody who you know is evil and the
devil's come in to get them. So, but I think
it's important to put it out there because I hope
that some of our listeners are practicing Christians and Muslims
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and Judaism and Hinduism and Buddhism and and all the isms,
and it opens her mind. Well, And this is the exploration. Right,
we're insider's guide to the other side. We're not the authority.
We're a guide on the side to the other side.
Right that says, hey, this might be for you, Hey,
this might be for you, and to trust your own
guidance in drawing towards and into and moving around in um.
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That's that's our intention and opening these conversations up to
invite you to it. And we'll get to more reasons
why we brought in the astral plane ticket concept for
you when we come back after this break. So, Brian,
I think I've done this, actually know I've done this
astral projection, and I know I've done it consciously. It
was a night, it was like a couple of years ago,
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and I looked at Suzanne and for some reason, like
sometimes I really don't know why I do certain things.
I really don't. I don't I believe you, I don't know.
And I turned to her and I said, you know,
I'm gonna go check in on our Houston people. And
Suzanne's from Houston, so she has a lot of family
members there and a lot of friends there. And I said,
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I'm gonna go check in on your sister. And so
I went and I checked in on her sister. I'm like,
she's in a different room. She's in the guest room.
That's strange because I could see her in that room.
I said, I want to check on your friend Wanda.
Then her nickname is Wicked Wanda, and not because she's wicked,
it's because she's tall and she's stunning. Way yeah, And
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so I went to go check on Wicked Wanda, and
I turned to Susan and I went, oh, my gosh,
this is so strange. She's sleeping on her sofa tonight
and she's I've never said, I've never heard her talk
of that. Never. She's always been go to the the bedroom,
go to bed, go to I said, so in the morning,
let's let's just find out and see where she was.
And so Suzanne calls Wicked Wanda, and Wanda was like, yeah,
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it was weird. I slept on my couch because Susanne,
where'd you sleep last night? She I don't know why
you're asking, but you are. I slept on the couch.
And Suzanne looked at me and the body why are
you asking? And she's like, oh my god, And I
will tell you. My first thought, Uh, well was amazement.
But the second one was I probably shouldn't be doing this.
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This seems rude. This seems like I'm jumping some boundaries
that I should not be doing. So it's a little
bit of that jump. Look later, I think it's really
what I do, or we'll shoot the name or whateverever
it goes. Well, first of all, checking it on your family.
There's usually a consent of love, but you do want
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to get the actual consent so you're not violating people's boundaries.
So that's always a nice because he knows what they're doing.
Because there are certain things I don't need to see,
that's correct, tont I want to see people do. And
my point is that I believe, Um, one reason why
perhaps you were inspired to do this is for your
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own affirmation. That doesn't mean that you need did to
do it ever again, but to know that it's real. Right,
So it's really what this ability, this astral playing connection
is real, and so that's the information you got, so
you don't ever need to do it again in this
particular way. Yes, right, that's why I knew I shouldn't
do it again. Yeah, Now there are situations that do happen,
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UM where people will ask me, can you check on this?
Can you check on this situation? Can you check? And
so I've got permission, and that's right. I think the
key is permission. Permission is very key. And so I
have a little story about that where I fell into it. Right.
So it was in the dream state, and so I
wake up and my beloved and I are getting ready
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to go on a trip. We have a conference and
we're going to go together. And I wake up and
I'm like, oh, gosh, I had a great dream where
we were walking on a beach together. And what I
didn't know is that he was planning a little extra
bonus for us to spend some time to go to
leave the conference and go up to Santa Barbara and
spent some time on the beach. And I had no
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idea that He's like, will you give it a break?
You know when you have a weird thing when you
see geographies, right, So I often will have the experience
of being in a certain area of the world or
the country. So I'll be like, oh, I was in
the southwester or I was in Canada or something. I'll
have the geographical experience, but I don't always have the
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specific of the individual or the work or the transmission
that was done. And what I have been shown is
that there are things that I don't need to recall
and that it's not purposeful, so they just don't bother sticking.
It's not like I'm doing some veiled work, but it's
just specific for that individual, and so it's done and gone.
(25:45):
But I do have the geographical experience, which is why
I came back with, Oh, I had this dream that
we were walking on the beach. It's like, there are
no surprises. That's so interesting that that's one of Yeah,
it's it's a little unusual, but what and says, It's
not unusual for me to get emails or text or
voicemels or whatever that people contact me and we'll say
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you were in my dream last night, and this is
what you told me. I get that all the time,
by the way. Yeah, I get people saying you're in
my dream. I'm like, oh, please, was I skinning? If
you're going to dream about me, I need to be fan.
I want to be okay skinny, right, I don't want
my hair to be clean. Did you comb your hair?
Margaret wants to know that question. So these are just
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connection points again, And usually when I'm hearing from someone,
it's usually like a guidance point I'm giving them, like, hey,
what about this? Not that long ago someone told me
I showed up and said, hey, you need to stop
drinking for forty days. And I'm like, okay, really not
a personal agenda on my part, but you know, but
there was something between us where we had something where
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this would be useful, and she took it for real
and like had an incredible experience, had an incredible life
transforming experience of her experiencing her life without alcohol for
forty days. Look at you while just going around, just
tapping in everybody's dream. But my point is there's all
kinds of things, all kinds of situations, all kinds of
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wisdom that we have access to. And this astral plane,
it's an amazing space to tap into to know that
it's there for you. It's an extraordinary place that we
all have a ticket to it, that we all have
a ticket. So this can be I think the astral plane.
The idea of this, the idea of going and conscious,
going and unconscious, can be a very complicated concept for people,
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and if you haven't experienced it, it actually requires I
think quiet leap or if you haven't acknowledged that you've
experienced because you have experienced it, is there a way
that everyone can consciously, we would say is intentionally intentionally
to intentionally navigate into it would just be meditation create
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that sacred space with permission. Well even if you even
if you're not going into connect with someone else, you're
just going into dive into your own information, which is
super helpful people. And really you have plenty of stuff
going out in your own space. You don't need to
go check out Houston or anywhere else. But a no
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without an that sounds pretty good, okay, But it's this
space where you have all kinds of information and insight
to gain. And when you can slow your mind, slow
the activity, and get into sacred space. And it's what
you may notice is that your body just gets a
little fuzzy like as your spirit moves away from it.
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You're obviously still connected, as we established in the beginning
by the silver cord, and sometimes it's literally just thirty
seconds is even three seconds in the astral plane will
be a huge download of insight. And it doesn't mean
that when you come out of meditation it'll be easy
access and totally clear. It may unfold with recollection over
the days and weeks and hours ahead, so let it unfold.
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Don't go in expecting I spent three minutes in there.
I need, you know, three years of information. Like, don't
get all snippy. That's not how it works. But to
be open to it and practice makes the master. So
the more you practice, the more it pays off, just
like it with anything else. We're going to call this
the Brenda nineteen colon. Please don't that astual projection is okay.
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You can go. Yes, you can go. You can learn
a lot, and you can travel on the astro plane
without having to go through t s A. It's all good.
See you on the astro plane. Thanks for joining us, everyone,
and a special thanks to our producer Maya Cole, who
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