August 7, 2024 • 37 mins
Fairies: sinister, sweet, mischievous, or myth?
Today is part two of our folklore series where you’ll learn the rules of fairyland, offerings faeries cannot resist, Brendas first encounter with faerie, and the history of fey throughout the centuries and across the globe.
Because Earth School is hard without the charming, realm-hopping fair-folk at play 🧚
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because, let's be honest, brand,
earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That, let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy o pooh, how are you you know?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh, my goodness, my alf I am a busy, good
witch these days. I am getting ready to teach my
only spirit guy class online this year. Whoa no, And
we've got some new visuals and it's all just very exciting. Yeah,
so that's coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I love that. When wait, when is it coming up?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
August eighth is the first class.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, okay, not for nothing, it's a day after my birthday.
Because I am a Leo. I have to tell everybody that.
So I was commenting on your Instagram host about we're Leo.
I'm like, yeah, we are very response. Okay, so August say,
(01:31):
now where can people sign up?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Just Brenda dash Roods dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh that's easy.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So I think it's really interesting and my you know
elfin way that the irony or this is call it synchronicity.
You you beginning this class very soon, and and I
just have to say I have been Actually I got
(01:59):
kind of lack with my guides. I think have my
own personal crap, you know, like well moving and just
all that kind of stuff. You kind of get caught
up in that stuff. And it's funny because I think
I was just telling you the other day, I started
to get reconnected and it has been incredible, I mean incredible.
(02:21):
I just encourage people like it's I mean ideally you
practice it regularly. There are people that do and have
those conversations. And everybody's heard about my story about Jacob
take the Wheel and how he saved my laugh on
the four or five. But you know, I went just through.
I went recently to Los Angeles and I saw Patricia
and we were back in her weird awesome room she
(02:44):
has since she closed a Crystal Matrix, and we were
both like jiving with our guides talking about stuff and
it was just so much fun and it was so
healing and like, even though it doesn't feel like you're
on Earth, but I feel like I'm back to Earth
as a result of it, because.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Of Yeah, it's very grounding, right, yes, yes, And it's
so interesting because you know, recently I taught the class
in person at Eslyn in June, and so we just
had our forty day check in together as a group,
and it was just so sweet to see everyone and
everyone was so excited to be reunited, you know, visually
(03:24):
and see people and see each other. It was really sweet.
But to hear about their experiences and how their lives
have changed, and you know, with the practices that they
were given in class, how they're using them and it's
just shifting their lives.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Can you share anything without names?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, it's just they notice the difference between when I
do the practice in the morning before you know, I
engage in my world and then when I'm done doing
the practice, or if if you know, something happens in
the morning and I don't get my practice in the
day is just harder. It's a little wonky, it doesn't flow,
(04:09):
it's not as easeful. I'm not as calm like. It's
so just taking that time to connect in with those
guides and have them on the ready and feeling the
confidence of that. And one of the students reminded me
in a reconnection. She was so sweet, she said, I
remember you said you teach this class because you want
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as many people as possible to have the experience where
they never have to be lonely again, that they are
so connected and loved and supported in their journeys. And
when you said it, I thought that was really nice.
But then I took the class and I really under
and I practiced when I came home, and I understand
(04:56):
now what you're talking about. I didn't really know that
feeling before, and how it's just empowered her confidence in life,
in everything she does, not just in connecting with her guides,
but knowing that she had you know they have her back,
and that you know it's they're going to support her,
They're going to be there, They're going to make it great. Anyhow.
It was really it was really quite beautiful to hear
(05:18):
her new perspective on life.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And not for nothing, humans like in the in our
meat puppet body, we all drag around. Part of that
is that we're social creatures, right when we talk about
a loneeness. And you know, I wrote this in my book,
It's like, why why is the harshest penalty for our
worst criminals is that they're in solitary confinement because that
(05:44):
is the worst punishment for a human, right.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We're social creatures, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right, And so it makes all the sense in the
world about why it sounded good, right, But then when
you're your student practiced it embodied what it had sounded like, right,
Like it's like, oh, this is so much better because
now because she feels it. Right, it's not just in
(06:10):
the it's not in the in the air and the
head kind of thing which is just dawned on me,
is that what we call people airheads because the air
sign is the mental sign. It's all I'm saying this
question for later because I have so noticed. I know
this is like it's your class, but you know, I
can't help it. I step to keep talking. But you know, Jacob,
(06:33):
who was my main man, there are times like I
can feel him and it's behind me because when I do,
like like my work work with him, he's usually behind me.
And that rapping. It's like wings. It's like it's like
(06:53):
it's like a safety, you know, even though it's so
ethereal right, and safety is such a like on mas
Low it's like number two from the bottom of the pyramid, right,
but it's this, it's this safety that is extends humanness.
I don't yeah, no, I that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, And that's what I mean, like they have your back,
They literally have your back.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh my, technically I just told that story. You just
said that would even connect it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Your elf is slightly slow, not at all, because I
have to confess I just learned something that was I
was a little distraught when I got my haircut. You
can't tell I got my haircut, by the way, it's
in a pony because I can't wear this hits it
with me, right, Okay, not that everybody's listening cares. We're
just sorting this out. I got my haircut yesterday, and
(07:46):
I'm saying, I'm like, what product I go my hair
It's like it's humid, but I know it's dry here.
And she's like, oh no, Julie. She goes, you're eighty
five percent gray now, and those are white hair and
they're wild and there, and she goes, you could very
well end up with that, like only I said, I'm
(08:07):
gonna be like a white haired witch, like by the
time I'm old and I'm and I'm not even that old,
so not even that olde yet. And but it's like
I'm like, Okay, she goes, you have a little bit
of your natural color, you have gray, and you have
the wild white hair.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm like, well, shit, well you are a wild child.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's just a reminder what the body's doing, you know.
It's like, Okay, here we go, white haired witch. Anyway,
the I don't know where I was going with that
doesn't really matter the most important part of this whole
first section is that y'all sign the fuck up. It
is life changing. And I love that you taught it.
(08:48):
This an escellent and they're getting back to you and
they're sharing these stories with you. Everybody needs to me,
Everyone needs to find their Jacob. And there's more than
just one.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But yeh, And I would just remind people that you're
working with your guides anyhow, you might as well become
aware of it, right right, so you can like have
a little party and give.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And they have names.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They have names, and they have names and functions, and
it's nice to be able to personalize it, to let
it be a deep spiritual practice and you know, bring
you to your best in everything you do. Like that, right,
It's part of their job. It literally is their assignment
that they've they've signed up for.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And if you care to have your life saved, get
to know your guide.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It can come in super handy, without a doubt, without
a doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So today we are talking more in our folklore mini series,
and today we're we're talking about fairies. And I don't
mean like my gay people fairies. I mean like the
ethereal fairies, because I could do that all day long.
I can tell you all about other fairies which they
(10:01):
can't be banilla, banillovant, it's a word I hate say
it for me, banilla, but bvlla, yeah that too. They
can be that, and they can be evil. But those
are just the gay fairies. So but we're going to
be back in just a minute and we're going to
talk fairies. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We laugh, I mean, just do y'all. Do you wonder
why we laugh every single time we come back? We
start every sin. When we restart, we just like are giggling,
We just have fun. Ye.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I love that we have fairies and talking about spirit
guides in the same episode because like they're nuanced and layered, right,
So what do you know, what did what did nerdy
el find out about fairies?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well, nerdy elf has stuff to say. But in my way,
of course, you know, I like to go I start
with movies, so we're going to start there. And what's
really interesting. Out of really all of the folk lore
mythicalness creatures, if you want to call them that kind
of category, fairies are funny enough, the most prevalent in storytelling.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I have a list and I'm just going to run
through some of them. And because I think that maybe
some people who want to like kind of live this
whole little fairy world right now, which ps I have been.
I'm gonna tell you guys, it is the greatest thing
h studying, right because it's like I'm living, like with
the fairies as I go through this stuff, and it's
so much fun. So shrinking down, I mean tiny, y'all.
(11:45):
I'm gonna be a tiny ass elf, not just a
short one.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's the movie where they shrunk them down that one.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Honey, I shrank the kids. I don't think it was fairies.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, no, but that's I'm thinking for you, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Totally, that's me. It's gonna be uh, which I shrunk
my health or whatever. So you know tinker Bell being
the most famous, right, it's got it. I mean it's
also the oldest, the most famous. Huh. Very global, Oh,
totally global. But we also have there's a movie called
(12:16):
fairy Tale the Dark Crystal. I did watch that and
I really liked it. It's kind of a it's a
little CULTI because it's weird.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, but I love I have a I have a
long sleeve T shirt that I bought from the Oscars
dot org. Like they have a store that they had
me museum store and they actually sell or did these
like dark Crystal themed. I mean it has like the
poster on it and the cools. Anyway, I have a
long sleeve T shirt of the Dark Crystal because it's weird.
(12:49):
So I'm just saying out loud. We had Peter pan
I mean, come On, which eventually became the movie Hook, right,
that had.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So Peter pans a fairy.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There's a fairy in Peter Pan.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh there's a very yeah, isn't this But.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
There are two separate movies. I'm just telling it. There's
a lot of fairy action going on here.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There's also like a kind of a kid's movie called
Ella Enchanted. There's another movie which I haven't seen. So,
by the way, I now have a new movie list.
I'm just gonna live. But you know it's my fairy
movie list. So you'll get your if you if you're
not driving or do anything important, start writing the ship down.
So Willow is another one. Oh, Pans lab lab LABYRINTHA.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What is wrong with me? It's in its shadow phase.
We'll just let that go.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Thank you. That's another one. Also weird like it's there's
some good weird fairy movies, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So when you say weird, do you mean dark?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Do you mean they can sometimes dark? But sometimes it's
weird like it's not like so when you have like
kids stories for fairies like a Peter Pan or a
tinker Bell, you have them like interacting a lot with
humans and very much on the human kind of plane.
But in some of these they're not on the human plane. Okay,
(14:15):
Like right, so, like Dark Crystal is not Pan's Lab
Labyrinth is not. Like that's what I mean, Like it's
more otherworldly. But it's a very very fine question on
my definition of weird. Okay, there's the Spiderwork Chronicles that
actually if you have Roku, you can watch it on
Roku based on the books. I can't believe. I know that.
(14:35):
I just talked to my friend at Roku random. Well,
I just talked to my friend Jay over there. There's
there's a movie called It's a Disney movie called Artemis Fowl.
There's another. There's several Disney movies that have fairies in them,
like even Maleficent with Angelina Joli there's fairies in that.
I even saw there's a movie and I'm like, oh,
(14:58):
I need to watch this one. It's called Pirate fair
I'm like, what the hell is that? I need to
watch that. There's another uh uh. I think it was
a DreamWorks movie and I don't think. I think maybe
I did work on it called Rise of the Guardians.
Oh no, that was right before I started working on DreamWorks.
Was called Rise of the Guardians. It's a uh uh,
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it's an animated film Fairies, and that my favorite one
is actually The Tooth Fairy. Okay, I have a feeling
I've never told this story, so we're going to divert
slightly because this is one of my favorite Hollywood stories ever.
So The Tooth Fairy started Dwayne john Has starred Dwyane
(15:40):
Johnson The Rock. It also had Julie Andrews in the
movie as well, and so it was the cutest movie.
It was one of the first, like within my first year, now,
maybe my first few years I worked at Fox, probably
my first three. So we have they're called filmmaker meetings,
and Dwyane is in the filmmaker meeting and ps in person,
(16:02):
you don't call him the Rock. His name was Dwayne.
So we're having this great meeting with him. And afterwards,
so and you remember when I was around that age,
I was in the best shape ever. I had hatch
my trainer, I was skinny, I was strong. I was
like beating boys at work arm wrestling like that was
that face so left handed just ps everybody, and I'm
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right handed. So after the meeting, Dwayne was like, Juliet,
was so great to meet you. I'm so excited. The
marketing plan looks great. We have this really lovely conversation
and I said, I cannot wait to see you again.
And I said, and I have to tell you. He goes,
what's that? And I said, next time, I'm going to
challenge you to him arm wrestle. He goes, oh you are.
(16:48):
He goes, well, let me tell you some I go,
what's that? He goes, I'm not going to let you win.
I said, that's interesting, because let me tell you something.
He goes, what's that? Literally, guys, this is that. When
he goes, what's that, I said, I'm not going to
let you win either. That man stood twice my size,
giggling like a little school girl. So watch The Tooth Fairy,
just because he's an awesome dude, I mean, because he
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was like in the movie, he was this guy who
didn't believe he was made to be a fairy and
that he was kind of a fussy kind of guy.
And you know this, this is his transition to not
being a fuzzy guy, you know whatever. So anyway, I
had to share that story. I'm very excited about The Tooth.
I still love that movie. So anyway, there's lots of
movies about it. And it's funny because seriously, I just
(17:35):
I want to repeat this because I've been I've literally
been saying this. It is the most prevalent. It's like,
you don't see this many movies about the Lockness Monster.
You don't see it about Bigfoot, you don't see as
many dragon movies. You don't see Elf movie, like you
see a couple Elf movies. But it's fairies, like they're
literally everywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, and that's that is the thing about fairies.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They're everywhere exactly. So let me tell you my nerdy party.
Ready for my nerdy part. I know I'm very tatty,
I promise y'all, and that you're gonna hear from Brenda
a lot more. But it's like, I get it super
excited about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Woice, come on.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So it's fucking fairies. Not just fairies, it's fucking fairies.
So in speaking of I will talk about fucking fairies
here in a minute. But so for real, there's a
thing in here about not technically don't use that language,
but that's elf language. But anyway, so for those who
might not be totally familiar with what a fairy is,
it is in writing what they say. It's a mythical being,
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which we will address that of folklore and romance, usually
having magical powers and dwelling on earth. In close relationship
with humans. It can appear as a dwarf creature, typically
having green clothes and hair, living underground or in stone heaps,
and character and characteristic. I can't speak characteristically, good God, damn,
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exercising magic powers to benevolent ends. I should not be
reading today.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They're doing great, You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I can't pronounce anything, so I just made it.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It makes me giggle because when you do the fairy emojis,
they're they're green, right.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They're green, and that funny. I didn't know that until
you just made that connection.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
See, yeah, there's also multiple ways to spell them, but
we don't have to get into that level of detail.
So here's what's.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Actually that just comes from the because it's a global phenomena.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, well, which is when you go back to.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
The Celtic right, they spell it differently.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
This is where we're headed, whichy pooh pooh, pooh wooh
is The term fairy goes back to the Middle Ages
in Europe. They appear like they're they're from, like when
we have our oral history as well, because we know
we start going back, you know, four or five hundred
(19:59):
plus years ago, we were dealing with, you know, a
population that was pretty illiterate, right, So so much was
through oral history. They also have written history as well
about fairies, and they have them from Sanskrit. There's a
word called gandharva g a n d h a r
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v a, which means semi divine celestial musicians.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Isn't that fun like cord gestures.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
But fairies is what they call them. Yeah, And then
they talked about, of course, the the nymphs nymphs of
Greek mythology and Homer, and then they also have the
j I n n i of Arabic mythology. And then
there's also similar folk characters of the Samoans, of the
(20:54):
Arctic peoples and of other indigenous Americans. So you said global,
and you were fully you got a plus on the
global because it is. But this is where all the
you know, again, whether it's written or oral, this is
where this has been compiled from was all over the world.
And the different you know, terms they had for them,
(21:15):
the names they had for them, and the different parts
of the world. So I think it's really fascinating. And
of course we've certainly talked about how fairies have been
characterized in like children's movies specifically, and so a lot
of what I pulled up talks about that. What's interesting
is some of them how it shifted from the early dates.
(21:36):
Is that again, this is like, you know, because modern
day we ruined lots of stuff, they have made them
more sinister at times, right, Like, so we see the
sinister part coming in.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well fairies, can you know we talked about elves and
how elves can take things into the other realm. Fairies
can do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yes they can.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean they do it a little differently, but they do.
They do like to hide things on us because they
like to play with us.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
They like to play with us, exactly right. So let
me just tell you. So I'm going to read again.
Hopefully I can say these words so, but but if
I read it, I'm going to get it right because
it's interesting about how things have how have they've shifted,
And it also gets to the point when I call
them fucking fairies. So hold on. So fairies are usually
conceived as being characteristic, characteristically beautiful or handsome, and is
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having lives corresponding to those as human beings.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Mh uh.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Though they say that the fairies live longer, they also
say they don't have souls. So that's one thing I
had a question for you about. And I say that
the Internet says they don't have souls.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Is they don't have human souls. They have fairy souls.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's what I was thinking because.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I identified it as like how we identify our human song.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right, Okay, because I read that, I'm like, I don't
think my wichipo is gonna agree with this, because like
my intuition was, no, that's not right. They're just not
getting it right. They like, yes, like the human soul
part for sure. So then it continues. They often carry
off children and there, but they they will leave changeling substitutes.
(23:30):
Do you want to tell everybody what changeling is, Well,
they'll just leave.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's like when they take something they so that you
don't think like, oh, maybe I didn't put it there.
They'll leave something in its place, like a calling card
that says now game on, like now you have to
play with me. You have to play with me to
get this back.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's how hilarious.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's how I think of it. I'm throwing down. They're
thrown down a gauntlet to play, right.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They also carry off adults to fairyland, which resemble what
they say, which resembles pre Christian abodes of the dead
what that sentence means. But here's the interesting part. People
transported to fairy land cannot return if they eat or
drink there. It's note if you get carried off, y'all.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Okay, but think about it. Fairies are little. What are
they going to serve you that you're interested in? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, that's totally fair. Like you can get a shot
of something, you know, like here's a geos seed, here's
a fairy cheese seed. Oh my god, we should start
a whole new line of chia seasons. It's call them
fairy seeds and eat them.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But my point is, like, you know, if you're human,
you get carried into fairy land, they're not gonna it's
not gonna be enticing to you like that. I'm gonna
have to eat like a hole, you know, a whole
truckload of that to even taste it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Come on, right, Okay, I'm just telling this is what
they're saying, this is what theyself me. Let me tell us.
The Internet tells me fair in human lovers may marry,
though only with restrictions whose violation ends the marriage and
often the life of the human. That's why I said,
That's why I said, fucking fairies, people do.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Not do not be confused. It's not worth your life.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's right, y'all. There's yeah, there's no Jdvans. You don't
need to do it with a sofa. You don't need
to do it with a fairy. You've been out of
the news, Brenda anyway, you look it up later. And
it also some female fairies are deadly to human lovers.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Go girls make black widow sort of situations.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah. So, Also, female fairies may tell fortunes, particularly prophesizing
at birth and foretelling deaths. Internet says, what do you
think about.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That, Well, considering that they are black widow lovers think
that would be an easy they'd be a ringer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I think so too. It's like the fairyland is truly
where girls rule. This is what it sounds like to me.
I love it. There's also there's apparently herbs that are
potent against fairies. Do you know about that? One of
them is Saint John's wart, and it's also it's called it. Okay,
(26:21):
it's saying it's a John and it's a wart. I mean, honestly,
the name of it makes it frankly potent against me.
I'm getting a no on that, Okay, horse shit. Okay,
what about ya o y A R R O W.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm getting a no on that.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay. So this is a bullshit part. So it Elsa
says hawthorn trees checking that one too. She's doing her
little charley stuff, y'all.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It depends on it depends on the regional of the
region of the fairy.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh my god, that's hilarious. Okay, a foxglove and grand cellar,
oh are also dear to them. Oh and if you
abuse those trees or plants, it may bring retribution.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
So the fairies do have such a strong connection with
herbs and plants in general. So often if you are
working in a garden or you are, you know, harvesting
medicinal plants, you would make offerings, right, you would think
the plant and the fairies that helped it grow, so cool.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, I need to remind Susannah that because she's getting
ready to do that at our house. Okay, I just
noticed the time. We're going to take a really quick
break and we're going to come back because I can't
wait to hear what you have to say. Okay, y'all,
we'll be right back. Okay, y'all, we're back, and Brenda's
going to fix everything I just said. Except because it's
(27:57):
a girl's wonderland. I love that. I want to go
to Faeryland.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So all I was saying is I asked what Susanne
will be harvesting. And because it's not always clear what
an offering is, and an offering can be anything that
is heartfelt. It can be something that you create. It
can be food, it can be song, it can be
a dance, it can be a prayer. But something that's
very traditionally an offering is tobacco. Julie's doing an interpretive dance.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I got a dance man.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
My friend Sianna plays a penny flute that she's always
making offerings. Today.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I need to get Susanna flute.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, just it can be a little recorder, a little
penny for yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
No, no, I'm going to get one off Amazon, like
literally after we finished recording. I'm getting I'm making a
note flute and she'll be like, what the hell are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'll be like, baby, this is your offer to the fairies.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Did keep the soil fertile and vibrant?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And yes? And I can sit and watching giggle in
the corner that my girls.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Play in a flute and helpfully dancing, and.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I'll be dancing. Oh my god, I'll dance their.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
A flute exactly. See how he dovetails together?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So good.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
But it creates such a lovely cycle, right, because you're
receiving the benefits of the plant and they're receiving your blessings.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
So now I think we've talked about this, but we've
been doing the show now. It was five years, so
you know, long term memories get a little sketchy. But
I because of this topic and one of the things
I remember so much about just getting to know you
over the years has been kind of your your first
(29:41):
experience with the other side, Like you were a little girl, right,
So why don't you tell us, tell us give us
your version of fairies from your experience.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So I'm I'm under the age of five, and we
are in a nineteen seventies station wagon, like the full
Ford station wagon experience from the seventies. Google it. It's
and so we have this. We have the back seat
down and we have the way back seat down, and
(30:12):
so it's like we've got blankets and pillows and books
and crayons and toys, and you know, it's like I
thought I'd think of it like a moving campground in
the back, right, and is what's happening? And we of
course this was pre air conditioning, right, So the windows
are all down and we're driving from Wisconsin. We have
(30:34):
a family of five, Yeah, driving from Wisconsin to Texas
in July, right, So it's just a nightmare. It's hot
and it's it's crazy. And so we were ritsen around
in the back seat and we're going through Saint Louis
or rush hour traffic, and my mom's navigating from the
passengers side with this fold out map and telling my
(30:58):
dad where to go, and and all of a sudden,
my feather pillow breaks loose and there are feathers everywhere,
like it is everywhere, and it's swirling in the car. Right.
My dad can't see, and he's somehow he instinctally knows
that it's my pillow, right, and starts yelling at me.
How do you know that? But the reason it's important
(31:23):
of the pillow breaking is because I couldn't stop giggling.
I thought it was the funniest thing that had ever
happened in my short life. Like I was just like,
oh my god, this is the best thing ever. And
I'm inhaling feathers because I'm laughing so hard. And when
the feathers cleared, and what I saw were these like
(31:44):
clear bubbles that I could play with and I could
move with my mind or I could move with my
fingers before I could touch it, and it was like
these energy patterns that I was playing with. And someone said, oh,
it's totally what the fairies would do. They would totally
break a pillow and then want to play with you.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh oh, I love that. And you were so young, yeah,
and how And that's actually what a perfect age, right,
because you know, the all the movies that I mentioned,
most of them are animated movies, and like it's for children,
it's for the wonderment right of being a child, you know,
I'll tell you during my my beginning of my ghost
photography and still to this day, I have seen and
(32:29):
you talked about bubbles, right, I've seen other photos and
it's so funny to me because I've seen them and
really nice hotels where they just have whatever art they buy,
you know, and they'll have like if it's at nighttime
in the street lights. And sometimes when you see that
photograph you see little round bubbles, there's something inside of
(32:49):
every one of them. I have stood there at work
meetings and I have brought executives, you know, with me.
Do you guys see that in there? They're like, what
is that? They'll have it there, Holy crap, and they're like,
nobody's probably ever noticed this. I said no, because nobody
notices the fairies the way they should.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
They don't look the same either, by the way, they don't.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But they have a different charge than the rest of
the background.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, they do. I've seen little I've seen little elephants
and some of the bubbles.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah. Not like all kinds of creatures.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Right, they can write, like you said, they.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Can take different shapes and forms and yeah, and colors
and yeah. But these these were very playful, very joyful.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So let's redefine a word that I used in the
beginning of this the definition that came from the people
of the Inner Web, and they talk about it being methought,
like it's it's a myth and it's just another dimension,
is what it is. It's not a myth. And if
you experience things like this, you're not crazy. Obviously we
(33:56):
say this all the time. If you do this, you're
not crazy. But it is it is a very real experience.
And I think that's the important part of this. Like,
you know, we talked about elves. You know, people in
Ireland they actually changed their their design of their highway
system because of where the elves were very real to them. Right,
(34:17):
it doesn't make it where it's not. It's not untrue.
It's not a myth. It's real. Fairies to you were real. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And often like puppies and babies and kiddies will play
with things that we can't see, right, oh and a
lot of times that'll be uh, you know, just energy
patterns we can't see.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah. Or if you take a picture, sometimes you'll catch
those those globes of light.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I catch those little yeah, little fuckers all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah. And it's fun when you get when you because
I have a picture of my shitsu when she was
a puppy playing with those botts of light that I
couldn't see when I took the picture. When I got that,
got it developed because it was back in the day.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So Maggie was you get Maggie's magical dog. Let's be honest,
because I took a picture for your house after it
was her time to cross, and I'm like, girl, I
think this is Maggie. You're like, oh my god, that's
my girl. She was most magical dog. So anyway, I
love these conversations. I hope that. I mean, I hope
(35:27):
we just changed this podcast to like lore and mythology
because this would be It's just so much fun to
talk about it. It's so much fun, and it's a
part of our world, right it isn't. It's energetic, it's
not just the mythical part.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
And again I love that it goes back so many
centuries and across the globe.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yes, me too.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's just it's just part of the human experience.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So yes, it is. Wait till we talk about Dragon Jall.
That's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Well, nerdy elf, thank you for bringing all the fun,
all the magic, and remember our.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
School without the other side. And fairies and spell them
any way you choose, and even your gay friends there
your fairies too.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Thanks for listening to everybody, Bye y'all, Thank you for
joining us everyone, and a special thanks to our producer
Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya Cole Howard, who
guides us while we guide.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
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Speaker 2 (36:35):
We want to know what you think, we want to
know what you know, and we want to hear your stories.
And remember, our school is.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
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Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because, let's be honest, brand,
earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That, let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy o pooh, how are you you know?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh, my goodness, my alf I am a busy, good
witch these days. I am getting ready to teach my
only spirit guy class online this year. Whoa no, And
we've got some new visuals and it's all just very exciting. Yeah,
so that's coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I love that. When wait, when is it coming up?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
August eighth is the first class.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, okay, not for nothing, it's a day after my birthday.
Because I am a Leo. I have to tell everybody that.
So I was commenting on your Instagram host about we're Leo.
I'm like, yeah, we are very response. Okay, so August say,
(01:31):
now where can people sign up?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Just Brenda dash Roods dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh that's easy.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So I think it's really interesting and my you know
elfin way that the irony or this is call it synchronicity.
You you beginning this class very soon, and and I
just have to say I have been Actually I got
(01:59):
kind of lack with my guides. I think have my
own personal crap, you know, like well moving and just
all that kind of stuff. You kind of get caught
up in that stuff. And it's funny because I think
I was just telling you the other day, I started
to get reconnected and it has been incredible, I mean incredible.
(02:21):
I just encourage people like it's I mean ideally you
practice it regularly. There are people that do and have
those conversations. And everybody's heard about my story about Jacob
take the Wheel and how he saved my laugh on
the four or five. But you know, I went just through.
I went recently to Los Angeles and I saw Patricia
and we were back in her weird awesome room she
(02:44):
has since she closed a Crystal Matrix, and we were
both like jiving with our guides talking about stuff and
it was just so much fun and it was so
healing and like, even though it doesn't feel like you're
on Earth, but I feel like I'm back to Earth
as a result of it, because.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Of Yeah, it's very grounding, right, yes, yes, And it's
so interesting because you know, recently I taught the class
in person at Eslyn in June, and so we just
had our forty day check in together as a group,
and it was just so sweet to see everyone and
everyone was so excited to be reunited, you know, visually
(03:24):
and see people and see each other. It was really sweet.
But to hear about their experiences and how their lives
have changed, and you know, with the practices that they
were given in class, how they're using them and it's
just shifting their lives.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Can you share anything without names?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, it's just they notice the difference between when I
do the practice in the morning before you know, I
engage in my world and then when I'm done doing
the practice, or if if you know, something happens in
the morning and I don't get my practice in the
day is just harder. It's a little wonky, it doesn't flow,
(04:09):
it's not as easeful. I'm not as calm like. It's
so just taking that time to connect in with those
guides and have them on the ready and feeling the
confidence of that. And one of the students reminded me
in a reconnection. She was so sweet, she said, I
remember you said you teach this class because you want
(04:34):
as many people as possible to have the experience where
they never have to be lonely again, that they are
so connected and loved and supported in their journeys. And
when you said it, I thought that was really nice.
But then I took the class and I really under
and I practiced when I came home, and I understand
(04:56):
now what you're talking about. I didn't really know that
feeling before, and how it's just empowered her confidence in life,
in everything she does, not just in connecting with her guides,
but knowing that she had you know they have her back,
and that you know it's they're going to support her,
They're going to be there, They're going to make it great. Anyhow.
It was really it was really quite beautiful to hear
(05:18):
her new perspective on life.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And not for nothing, humans like in the in our
meat puppet body, we all drag around. Part of that
is that we're social creatures, right when we talk about
a loneeness. And you know, I wrote this in my book,
It's like, why why is the harshest penalty for our
worst criminals is that they're in solitary confinement because that
(05:44):
is the worst punishment for a human, right.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
We're social creatures, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Right, And so it makes all the sense in the
world about why it sounded good, right, But then when
you're your student practiced it embodied what it had sounded like, right,
Like it's like, oh, this is so much better because
now because she feels it. Right, it's not just in
(06:10):
the it's not in the in the air and the
head kind of thing which is just dawned on me,
is that what we call people airheads because the air
sign is the mental sign. It's all I'm saying this
question for later because I have so noticed. I know
this is like it's your class, but you know, I
can't help it. I step to keep talking. But you know, Jacob,
(06:33):
who was my main man, there are times like I
can feel him and it's behind me because when I do,
like like my work work with him, he's usually behind me.
And that rapping. It's like wings. It's like it's like
(06:53):
it's like a safety, you know, even though it's so
ethereal right, and safety is such a like on mas
Low it's like number two from the bottom of the pyramid, right,
but it's this, it's this safety that is extends humanness.
I don't yeah, no, I that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, And that's what I mean, like they have your back,
They literally have your back.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh my, technically I just told that story. You just
said that would even connect it.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Your elf is slightly slow, not at all, because I
have to confess I just learned something that was I
was a little distraught when I got my haircut. You
can't tell I got my haircut, by the way, it's
in a pony because I can't wear this hits it
with me, right, Okay, not that everybody's listening cares. We're
just sorting this out. I got my haircut yesterday, and
(07:46):
I'm saying, I'm like, what product I go my hair
It's like it's humid, but I know it's dry here.
And she's like, oh no, Julie. She goes, you're eighty
five percent gray now, and those are white hair and
they're wild and there, and she goes, you could very
well end up with that, like only I said, I'm
(08:07):
gonna be like a white haired witch, like by the
time I'm old and I'm and I'm not even that old,
so not even that olde yet. And but it's like
I'm like, Okay, she goes, you have a little bit
of your natural color, you have gray, and you have
the wild white hair.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm like, well, shit, well you are a wild child.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's just a reminder what the body's doing, you know.
It's like, Okay, here we go, white haired witch. Anyway,
the I don't know where I was going with that
doesn't really matter the most important part of this whole
first section is that y'all sign the fuck up. It
is life changing. And I love that you taught it.
(08:48):
This an escellent and they're getting back to you and
they're sharing these stories with you. Everybody needs to me,
Everyone needs to find their Jacob. And there's more than
just one.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
But yeh, And I would just remind people that you're
working with your guides anyhow, you might as well become
aware of it, right right, so you can like have
a little party and give.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And they have names.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They have names, and they have names and functions, and
it's nice to be able to personalize it, to let
it be a deep spiritual practice and you know, bring
you to your best in everything you do. Like that, right,
It's part of their job. It literally is their assignment
that they've they've signed up for.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And if you care to have your life saved, get
to know your guide.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It can come in super handy, without a doubt, without
a doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So today we are talking more in our folklore mini series,
and today we're we're talking about fairies. And I don't
mean like my gay people fairies. I mean like the
ethereal fairies, because I could do that all day long.
I can tell you all about other fairies which they
(10:01):
can't be banilla, banillovant, it's a word I hate say
it for me, banilla, but bvlla, yeah that too. They
can be that, and they can be evil. But those
are just the gay fairies. So but we're going to
be back in just a minute and we're going to
talk fairies. Y'all.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We laugh, I mean, just do y'all. Do you wonder
why we laugh every single time we come back? We
start every sin. When we restart, we just like are giggling,
We just have fun. Ye.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I love that we have fairies and talking about spirit
guides in the same episode because like they're nuanced and layered, right,
So what do you know, what did what did nerdy
el find out about fairies?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Well, nerdy elf has stuff to say. But in my way,
of course, you know, I like to go I start
with movies, so we're going to start there. And what's
really interesting. Out of really all of the folk lore
mythicalness creatures, if you want to call them that kind
of category, fairies are funny enough, the most prevalent in storytelling.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I have a list and I'm just going to run
through some of them. And because I think that maybe
some people who want to like kind of live this
whole little fairy world right now, which ps I have been.
I'm gonna tell you guys, it is the greatest thing
h studying, right because it's like I'm living, like with
the fairies as I go through this stuff, and it's
so much fun. So shrinking down, I mean tiny, y'all.
(11:45):
I'm gonna be a tiny ass elf, not just a
short one.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's the movie where they shrunk them down that one.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Honey, I shrank the kids. I don't think it was fairies.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, no, but that's I'm thinking for you, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Totally, that's me. It's gonna be uh, which I shrunk
my health or whatever. So you know tinker Bell being
the most famous, right, it's got it. I mean it's
also the oldest, the most famous. Huh. Very global, Oh,
totally global. But we also have there's a movie called
(12:16):
fairy Tale the Dark Crystal. I did watch that and
I really liked it. It's kind of a it's a
little CULTI because it's weird.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, but I love I have a I have a
long sleeve T shirt that I bought from the Oscars
dot org. Like they have a store that they had
me museum store and they actually sell or did these
like dark Crystal themed. I mean it has like the
poster on it and the cools. Anyway, I have a
long sleeve T shirt of the Dark Crystal because it's weird.
(12:49):
So I'm just saying out loud. We had Peter pan
I mean, come On, which eventually became the movie Hook, right,
that had.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So Peter pans a fairy.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
There's a fairy in Peter Pan.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Oh there's a very yeah, isn't this But.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
There are two separate movies. I'm just telling it. There's
a lot of fairy action going on here.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There's also like a kind of a kid's movie called
Ella Enchanted. There's another movie which I haven't seen. So,
by the way, I now have a new movie list.
I'm just gonna live. But you know it's my fairy
movie list. So you'll get your if you if you're
not driving or do anything important, start writing the ship down.
So Willow is another one. Oh, Pans lab lab LABYRINTHA.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What is wrong with me? It's in its shadow phase.
We'll just let that go.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Thank you. That's another one. Also weird like it's there's
some good weird fairy movies, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
So when you say weird, do you mean dark?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Do you mean they can sometimes dark? But sometimes it's
weird like it's not like so when you have like
kids stories for fairies like a Peter Pan or a
tinker Bell, you have them like interacting a lot with
humans and very much on the human kind of plane.
But in some of these they're not on the human plane. Okay,
(14:15):
Like right, so, like Dark Crystal is not Pan's Lab
Labyrinth is not. Like that's what I mean, Like it's
more otherworldly. But it's a very very fine question on
my definition of weird. Okay, there's the Spiderwork Chronicles that
actually if you have Roku, you can watch it on
Roku based on the books. I can't believe. I know that.
(14:35):
I just talked to my friend at Roku random. Well,
I just talked to my friend Jay over there. There's
there's a movie called It's a Disney movie called Artemis Fowl.
There's another. There's several Disney movies that have fairies in them,
like even Maleficent with Angelina Joli there's fairies in that.
I even saw there's a movie and I'm like, oh,
(14:58):
I need to watch this one. It's called Pirate fair
I'm like, what the hell is that? I need to
watch that. There's another uh uh. I think it was
a DreamWorks movie and I don't think. I think maybe
I did work on it called Rise of the Guardians.
Oh no, that was right before I started working on DreamWorks.
Was called Rise of the Guardians. It's a uh uh,
(15:19):
it's an animated film Fairies, and that my favorite one
is actually The Tooth Fairy. Okay, I have a feeling
I've never told this story, so we're going to divert
slightly because this is one of my favorite Hollywood stories ever.
So The Tooth Fairy started Dwayne john Has starred Dwyane
(15:40):
Johnson The Rock. It also had Julie Andrews in the
movie as well, and so it was the cutest movie.
It was one of the first, like within my first year, now,
maybe my first few years I worked at Fox, probably
my first three. So we have they're called filmmaker meetings,
and Dwyane is in the filmmaker meeting and ps in person,
(16:02):
you don't call him the Rock. His name was Dwayne.
So we're having this great meeting with him. And afterwards,
so and you remember when I was around that age,
I was in the best shape ever. I had hatch
my trainer, I was skinny, I was strong. I was
like beating boys at work arm wrestling like that was
that face so left handed just ps everybody, and I'm
(16:25):
right handed. So after the meeting, Dwayne was like, Juliet,
was so great to meet you. I'm so excited. The
marketing plan looks great. We have this really lovely conversation
and I said, I cannot wait to see you again.
And I said, and I have to tell you. He goes,
what's that? And I said, next time, I'm going to
challenge you to him arm wrestle. He goes, oh you are.
(16:48):
He goes, well, let me tell you some I go,
what's that? He goes, I'm not going to let you win.
I said, that's interesting, because let me tell you something.
He goes, what's that? Literally, guys, this is that. When
he goes, what's that, I said, I'm not going to
let you win either. That man stood twice my size,
giggling like a little school girl. So watch The Tooth Fairy,
just because he's an awesome dude, I mean, because he
(17:11):
was like in the movie, he was this guy who
didn't believe he was made to be a fairy and
that he was kind of a fussy kind of guy.
And you know this, this is his transition to not
being a fuzzy guy, you know whatever. So anyway, I
had to share that story. I'm very excited about The Tooth.
I still love that movie. So anyway, there's lots of
movies about it. And it's funny because seriously, I just
(17:35):
I want to repeat this because I've been I've literally
been saying this. It is the most prevalent. It's like,
you don't see this many movies about the Lockness Monster.
You don't see it about Bigfoot, you don't see as
many dragon movies. You don't see Elf movie, like you
see a couple Elf movies. But it's fairies, like they're
literally everywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, and that's that is the thing about fairies.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They're everywhere exactly. So let me tell you my nerdy party.
Ready for my nerdy part. I know I'm very tatty,
I promise y'all, and that you're gonna hear from Brenda
a lot more. But it's like, I get it super
excited about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Woice, come on.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So it's fucking fairies. Not just fairies, it's fucking fairies.
So in speaking of I will talk about fucking fairies
here in a minute. But so for real, there's a
thing in here about not technically don't use that language,
but that's elf language. But anyway, so for those who
might not be totally familiar with what a fairy is,
it is in writing what they say. It's a mythical being,
(18:35):
which we will address that of folklore and romance, usually
having magical powers and dwelling on earth. In close relationship
with humans. It can appear as a dwarf creature, typically
having green clothes and hair, living underground or in stone heaps,
and character and characteristic. I can't speak characteristically, good God, damn,
(18:59):
exercising magic powers to benevolent ends. I should not be
reading today.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They're doing great, You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I can't pronounce anything, so I just made it.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It makes me giggle because when you do the fairy emojis,
they're they're green, right.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They're green, and that funny. I didn't know that until
you just made that connection.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
See, yeah, there's also multiple ways to spell them, but
we don't have to get into that level of detail.
So here's what's.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Actually that just comes from the because it's a global phenomena.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, well, which is when you go back to.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
The Celtic right, they spell it differently.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
This is where we're headed, whichy pooh pooh, pooh wooh
is The term fairy goes back to the Middle Ages
in Europe. They appear like they're they're from, like when
we have our oral history as well, because we know
we start going back, you know, four or five hundred
(19:59):
plus years ago, we were dealing with, you know, a
population that was pretty illiterate, right, So so much was
through oral history. They also have written history as well
about fairies, and they have them from Sanskrit. There's a
word called gandharva g a n d h a r
(20:22):
v a, which means semi divine celestial musicians.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Isn't that fun like cord gestures.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
But fairies is what they call them. Yeah, And then
they talked about, of course, the the nymphs nymphs of
Greek mythology and Homer, and then they also have the
j I n n i of Arabic mythology. And then
there's also similar folk characters of the Samoans, of the
(20:54):
Arctic peoples and of other indigenous Americans. So you said global,
and you were fully you got a plus on the
global because it is. But this is where all the
you know, again, whether it's written or oral, this is
where this has been compiled from was all over the world.
And the different you know, terms they had for them,
(21:15):
the names they had for them, and the different parts
of the world. So I think it's really fascinating. And
of course we've certainly talked about how fairies have been
characterized in like children's movies specifically, and so a lot
of what I pulled up talks about that. What's interesting
is some of them how it shifted from the early dates.
(21:36):
Is that again, this is like, you know, because modern
day we ruined lots of stuff, they have made them
more sinister at times, right, Like, so we see the
sinister part coming in.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well fairies, can you know we talked about elves and
how elves can take things into the other realm. Fairies
can do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yes they can.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I mean they do it a little differently, but they do.
They do like to hide things on us because they
like to play with us.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
They like to play with us, exactly right. So let
me just tell you. So I'm going to read again.
Hopefully I can say these words so, but but if
I read it, I'm going to get it right because
it's interesting about how things have how have they've shifted,
And it also gets to the point when I call
them fucking fairies. So hold on. So fairies are usually
conceived as being characteristic, characteristically beautiful or handsome, and is
(22:32):
having lives corresponding to those as human beings.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Mh uh.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Though they say that the fairies live longer, they also
say they don't have souls. So that's one thing I
had a question for you about. And I say that
the Internet says they don't have souls.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Is they don't have human souls. They have fairy souls.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's what I was thinking because.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I identified it as like how we identify our human song.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right, Okay, because I read that, I'm like, I don't
think my wichipo is gonna agree with this, because like
my intuition was, no, that's not right. They're just not
getting it right. They like, yes, like the human soul
part for sure. So then it continues. They often carry
off children and there, but they they will leave changeling substitutes.
(23:30):
Do you want to tell everybody what changeling is, Well,
they'll just leave.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's like when they take something they so that you
don't think like, oh, maybe I didn't put it there.
They'll leave something in its place, like a calling card
that says now game on, like now you have to
play with me. You have to play with me to
get this back.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's how hilarious.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's how I think of it. I'm throwing down. They're
thrown down a gauntlet to play, right.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They also carry off adults to fairyland, which resemble what
they say, which resembles pre Christian abodes of the dead
what that sentence means. But here's the interesting part. People
transported to fairy land cannot return if they eat or
drink there. It's note if you get carried off, y'all.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Okay, but think about it. Fairies are little. What are
they going to serve you that you're interested in? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, that's totally fair. Like you can get a shot
of something, you know, like here's a geos seed, here's
a fairy cheese seed. Oh my god, we should start
a whole new line of chia seasons. It's call them
fairy seeds and eat them.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But my point is, like, you know, if you're human,
you get carried into fairy land, they're not gonna it's
not gonna be enticing to you like that. I'm gonna
have to eat like a hole, you know, a whole
truckload of that to even taste it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Come on, right, Okay, I'm just telling this is what
they're saying, this is what theyself me. Let me tell us.
The Internet tells me fair in human lovers may marry,
though only with restrictions whose violation ends the marriage and
often the life of the human. That's why I said,
That's why I said, fucking fairies, people do.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Not do not be confused. It's not worth your life.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That's right, y'all. There's yeah, there's no Jdvans. You don't
need to do it with a sofa. You don't need
to do it with a fairy. You've been out of
the news, Brenda anyway, you look it up later. And
it also some female fairies are deadly to human lovers.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Go girls make black widow sort of situations.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah. So, Also, female fairies may tell fortunes, particularly prophesizing
at birth and foretelling deaths. Internet says, what do you
think about.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That, Well, considering that they are black widow lovers think
that would be an easy they'd be a ringer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I think so too. It's like the fairyland is truly
where girls rule. This is what it sounds like to me.
I love it. There's also there's apparently herbs that are
potent against fairies. Do you know about that? One of
them is Saint John's wart, and it's also it's called it. Okay,
(26:21):
it's saying it's a John and it's a wart. I mean, honestly,
the name of it makes it frankly potent against me.
I'm getting a no on that, Okay, horse shit. Okay,
what about ya o y A R R O W.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm getting a no on that.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay. So this is a bullshit part. So it Elsa
says hawthorn trees checking that one too. She's doing her
little charley stuff, y'all.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It depends on it depends on the regional of the
region of the fairy.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh my god, that's hilarious. Okay, a foxglove and grand cellar,
oh are also dear to them. Oh and if you
abuse those trees or plants, it may bring retribution.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
So the fairies do have such a strong connection with
herbs and plants in general. So often if you are
working in a garden or you are, you know, harvesting
medicinal plants, you would make offerings, right, you would think
the plant and the fairies that helped it grow, so cool.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, I need to remind Susannah that because she's getting
ready to do that at our house. Okay, I just
noticed the time. We're going to take a really quick
break and we're going to come back because I can't
wait to hear what you have to say. Okay, y'all,
we'll be right back. Okay, y'all, we're back, and Brenda's
going to fix everything I just said. Except because it's
(27:57):
a girl's wonderland. I love that. I want to go
to Faeryland.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So all I was saying is I asked what Susanne
will be harvesting. And because it's not always clear what
an offering is, and an offering can be anything that
is heartfelt. It can be something that you create. It
can be food, it can be song, it can be
a dance, it can be a prayer. But something that's
very traditionally an offering is tobacco. Julie's doing an interpretive dance.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I got a dance man.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
My friend Sianna plays a penny flute that she's always
making offerings. Today.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I need to get Susanna flute.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, just it can be a little recorder, a little
penny for yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
No, no, I'm going to get one off Amazon, like
literally after we finished recording. I'm getting I'm making a
note flute and she'll be like, what the hell are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I'll be like, baby, this is your offer to the fairies.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Did keep the soil fertile and vibrant?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And yes? And I can sit and watching giggle in
the corner that my girls.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Play in a flute and helpfully dancing, and.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I'll be dancing. Oh my god, I'll dance their.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
A flute exactly. See how he dovetails together?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So good.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
But it creates such a lovely cycle, right, because you're
receiving the benefits of the plant and they're receiving your blessings.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
So now I think we've talked about this, but we've
been doing the show now. It was five years, so
you know, long term memories get a little sketchy. But
I because of this topic and one of the things
I remember so much about just getting to know you
over the years has been kind of your your first
(29:41):
experience with the other side, Like you were a little girl, right,
So why don't you tell us, tell us give us
your version of fairies from your experience.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So I'm I'm under the age of five, and we
are in a nineteen seventies station wagon, like the full
Ford station wagon experience from the seventies. Google it. It's
and so we have this. We have the back seat
down and we have the way back seat down, and
(30:12):
so it's like we've got blankets and pillows and books
and crayons and toys, and you know, it's like I
thought I'd think of it like a moving campground in
the back, right, and is what's happening? And we of
course this was pre air conditioning, right, So the windows
are all down and we're driving from Wisconsin. We have
(30:34):
a family of five, Yeah, driving from Wisconsin to Texas
in July, right, So it's just a nightmare. It's hot
and it's it's crazy. And so we were ritsen around
in the back seat and we're going through Saint Louis
or rush hour traffic, and my mom's navigating from the
passengers side with this fold out map and telling my
(30:58):
dad where to go, and and all of a sudden,
my feather pillow breaks loose and there are feathers everywhere,
like it is everywhere, and it's swirling in the car. Right.
My dad can't see, and he's somehow he instinctally knows
that it's my pillow, right, and starts yelling at me.
How do you know that? But the reason it's important
(31:23):
of the pillow breaking is because I couldn't stop giggling.
I thought it was the funniest thing that had ever
happened in my short life. Like I was just like,
oh my god, this is the best thing ever. And
I'm inhaling feathers because I'm laughing so hard. And when
the feathers cleared, and what I saw were these like
(31:44):
clear bubbles that I could play with and I could
move with my mind or I could move with my
fingers before I could touch it, and it was like
these energy patterns that I was playing with. And someone said, oh,
it's totally what the fairies would do. They would totally
break a pillow and then want to play with you.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh oh, I love that. And you were so young, yeah,
and how And that's actually what a perfect age, right,
because you know, the all the movies that I mentioned,
most of them are animated movies, and like it's for children,
it's for the wonderment right of being a child, you know,
I'll tell you during my my beginning of my ghost
photography and still to this day, I have seen and
(32:29):
you talked about bubbles, right, I've seen other photos and
it's so funny to me because I've seen them and
really nice hotels where they just have whatever art they buy,
you know, and they'll have like if it's at nighttime
in the street lights. And sometimes when you see that
photograph you see little round bubbles, there's something inside of
(32:49):
every one of them. I have stood there at work
meetings and I have brought executives, you know, with me.
Do you guys see that in there? They're like, what
is that? They'll have it there, Holy crap, and they're like,
nobody's probably ever noticed this. I said no, because nobody
notices the fairies the way they should.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
They don't look the same either, by the way, they don't.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But they have a different charge than the rest of
the background.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, they do. I've seen little I've seen little elephants
and some of the bubbles.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah. Not like all kinds of creatures.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Right, they can write, like you said, they.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Can take different shapes and forms and yeah, and colors
and yeah. But these these were very playful, very joyful.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So let's redefine a word that I used in the
beginning of this the definition that came from the people
of the Inner Web, and they talk about it being methought,
like it's it's a myth and it's just another dimension,
is what it is. It's not a myth. And if
you experience things like this, you're not crazy. Obviously we
(33:56):
say this all the time. If you do this, you're
not crazy. But it is it is a very real experience.
And I think that's the important part of this. Like,
you know, we talked about elves. You know, people in
Ireland they actually changed their their design of their highway
system because of where the elves were very real to them. Right,
(34:17):
it doesn't make it where it's not. It's not untrue.
It's not a myth. It's real. Fairies to you were real. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And often like puppies and babies and kiddies will play
with things that we can't see, right, oh and a
lot of times that'll be uh, you know, just energy
patterns we can't see.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah. Or if you take a picture, sometimes you'll catch
those those globes of light.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I catch those little yeah, little fuckers all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah. And it's fun when you get when you because
I have a picture of my shitsu when she was
a puppy playing with those botts of light that I
couldn't see when I took the picture. When I got that,
got it developed because it was back in the day.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So Maggie was you get Maggie's magical dog. Let's be honest,
because I took a picture for your house after it
was her time to cross, and I'm like, girl, I
think this is Maggie. You're like, oh my god, that's
my girl. She was most magical dog. So anyway, I
love these conversations. I hope that. I mean, I hope
(35:27):
we just changed this podcast to like lore and mythology
because this would be It's just so much fun to
talk about it. It's so much fun, and it's a
part of our world, right it isn't. It's energetic, it's
not just the mythical part.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
And again I love that it goes back so many
centuries and across the globe.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yes, me too.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's just it's just part of the human experience.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So yes, it is. Wait till we talk about Dragon Jall.
That's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Well, nerdy elf, thank you for bringing all the fun,
all the magic, and remember our.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
School without the other side. And fairies and spell them
any way you choose, and even your gay friends there
your fairies too.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Thanks for listening to everybody, Bye y'all, Thank you for
joining us everyone, and a special thanks to our producer
Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya Cole Howard, who
guides us while we guide.
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