May 31, 2023 • 36 mins
You've heard Julie and Brenda discuss the importance of meditation in their daily lives on numerous occasions. You've also, most likely, heard many scientific studies touting the health benefits a meditation practice can bring, both cognitively and emotionally. But... this does not mean meditation comes easy to you or that you even know what it means to achieve a meditative state. So today, your Other Side Guides share their meditation tips and tricks to get you started on your own practice or enhance the one you already have going.
The truth is you naturally weave in and out of a meditative state throughout your day, and that's because, at its core, meditation is a very natural state of being. Theta-brain, aka relaxed brain moments, occur when you're daydreaming, traveling down memory lane, imagining your future, swimming, bathing, or in a deeply relaxed creative state (to name a few). Knowing this, the bigger question becomes: how can you create an intentional meditation practice in your daily life?
Today, we'll discuss: 🙏 simple ways to begin meditating 🙏 what a moving meditation is 🙏 'brain-clutter' and how to clean it 🙏 how to invite your Spirit Guides into your practice 🙏 the importance of grounding and breathing
Because Earth School is hard, without making time to meditate, connect with the unseen, and access your support from the Other Side.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
U heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that let's crush earth school together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh, how in the hell slash heck?
Are you nice?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Nice self? Editing there?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It was weird. I didn't even plan for that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Just like that, I've great, I am great. How are
you you know?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I am doing fabulous.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I just want to share one quick thing because what
we're going to talk about, but I just wanted to
say that I have actually done my first wedding officiating.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh that's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Thank you, and also thank you for your help. Of
course your help was amazing. Of course, so it was
very it was awesome. It was in Little Rock. It
was Suzanne's cousin Chad and his his now husband Myron.
So of course, naturally, my first one's a gay one.
How my next one I have another one on deck,
and this is awesome. My high school boyfriend John, his
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son Colin, who I love. I mean, I love the
whole damn family. Yeah, like all of them, Jenny, Dianne, Mark, John,
like the whole group, their kids, all of it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I love that family so much. But anyway, I'll be
officiating Colin and Laura Beth's wedding as well. So I'm
very excited. I love this work.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
By the way, it's such an honor, right, it's such
an honor. I'm doing one on Saturday too.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You are, yes, in Cincinnati?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
In Cincinnati, yes, Oh, some picks'll be so sweet?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Do you like the gown and stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Do you because I do? I have a whole get
up because I like because I like a good costume.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I'm a reverend.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hello, Well I am from the whatever church online, so
and they have a whole store of the get ups.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So I always asked the couple, the couple, what would
you like me to wear?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh? So I always ask what if they said nothing,
I would decline that opportunity, saying, by the way, who
was insane and she owns a cemetery. So yeah, I
I love it. It is an honor. Like I was
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so like serious about it, like I really wanted it
to be amazing for them that they would remember as
well as their guest, you know. And I'm doing the
same with Colin and Morobeth. So it is exciting. It
is an honor.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it's a it's a really fun time because it is.
I take it seriously too, because it's fun. It's like, Okay,
I'm committed to your your journey together, like I'm committed.
So I take them to Colby and Ingram and we
talk about how they're going to navigate and find supporting
each other and their differences and as humane.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, well, you might be stealing my future gigs by
saying shit like that. When I do not do that
for my people, I have a very different conversation. It's
not a competition, but it felt like one because yours
is way deeper like your mis enneagram. I'm like a
goofy fucking elf.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, but you have customs costumes.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And a little bit of a sency humor when I
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's got to be playful Otherwise.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Others, what's the point? Okay, enough about that. I just
want to share it because it's exciting. I love this.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah. The first one you'll never get, of course, mine
is Barbie and Geen.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh my god. Okay, that's that's an offline convo.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Insiders inside here we go.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right, Okay, So we have people and they're asking us stuff,
and they're asking us about We love our people and
their stuff. But you know, I think some folks are
struggling or want more kind of tips and hints and
tricks on meditation because I think they know that it's powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They do, they do, and I think people want, you know,
to have their experiences, but they want to get it
right or they don't know if this Like there's a
lot of are you sure this is worth it? Because
if I just do this, it doesn't seem like much.
And I think this is a really important conversation to
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have to remind people that you naturally go in and
out of this kind of sacred space where you're connected
to something larger than yourself throughout the day. Like, yes,
we can give you techniques, we can give you steps,
but this is actually reconnecting that was something that's actually
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a very natural state. So I think that's an important
thing to remember. So in that way, you agree, right,
you can't get it wrong, Like just give yourself that
sacred space and you'll fall into it.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And let's be honest, there's history that goes back to
the beginning of mankind where they did things that were
if they didn't call it meditation, it was very it
was it's what they did, you know, when you have
like the monks and the Himalayas, that's what they did.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
They still do.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They still do, no doubt, obviously they still do. But
it's like, this is not like a new this isn't
a new age thing, folks, this is an old age thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Trying to say, yeah, yes, it's part of our nature, right, yeah,
it's your pashu. It is the essence of who you are.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And then I would say, bless you if you said
I may be the wrong co host for this episode,
but I'm here.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's still very relevant, my dear. All right, So the
first thing, let's just talk about how to start, Like
people want to know how to start meditating. And I
can tell stories again about how I started meditating, which
was a freak out for me, but because I was like,
why would anyone do this? This is crazy because I
closed my eyes and all this shit happened, and I
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was like, I don't know what's happening. Why is this
different from any other time I closed my eyes. I
I didn't know I was cliff diving, like off a
Capolco cliffs. I was running in front of a train.
I was like doing like I was Superman or something
like it was nuts, Like it was just crazy, and
like why did people say that this is relaxing exhausted?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I didn't know about the cliff jumping. That's actually
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That was the first time. And then I called my
brother who said I should meditate, and he's like, you
you told you. I told you not to lay down.
I'm like, you said, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You told me not to lay down.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, but this is why I told you not to
lay down. But still I wondered, I closed my eyes
every night when I lay down. Why was it different
and why it's different? This is why I'm telling the story.
Is why it's different is because there's a signal to
every cell in your being, and there's a signal that
goes out to the other side, including your loved ones,
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including your guides that you're assigned, including the sacred deities
that you've worked with, your angels, everybody. There's this signal
that goes out, Hey, here she is finally getting quiet.
Let's go in.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
We got her, right, we got her trapped.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, Like this is a big opportunity, right, And that's
kind of what happened. And so it is different. And
so this is what I would suggest, and this is
how I started. I literally started with a digital clock
in my lap. Now today we can use our phone
or watch this to set a timer. But just give
yourself two minutes to start. If this is the first
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time or you've had many false starts, you're like, it's
not working. Give yourself two minutes and all you're going
to do is give yourself ten breaths in hell, Like
to the account of four, hold for four?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Why do I always do what you say when we're recording,
Like just I was doing it, You always do anything
in stri I'm like, okay, wait a second, you going
too faska.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But I'm doing so You're going to inhale for four,
hold for four? An exhale for six.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, wait, I can make six.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You can make six, And remember you want in you
want to exhale longer than the inhal So in hell
for four, hold for four or three, depending on your capacity,
and exhal for six, seven, up to eight, like twice
as long as the inhale, and you can count faster, right,
and you can do to your own pulsation, your own count.
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You can set a metronome on your phone, do whatever
you want to do, but make it accessible so it's
a little bit challenging, but it's not going to freak
out your nervous system because that defeats the purpose. We
want your nervous system calm everything to be peaceful. So
if you can do seven to ten breaths like that
in two minutes, and then you'll have probably thirty seconds
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left to just be still and expansive in that space.
And when your timer goes off, you can ask yourself,
would I like to sit in this sacred space for
another minute? And sometimes the answer'll be yes, and sometimes
they'll be like I don't have time for that, then
fine and let it go, and then come back the
next day and do the same thing until it's like
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yes and now I want to wait for another minute.
I want to sit in this space for another two minutes,
another three days, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, so you joke about three days, but I
know you've done that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh my god, it's my favorite. But here nor there
like this is it can be that simple. Never underestimate
a solid three minute practice as a starting place for
your meditation practice, and a starting place. You may do
this for ten months, you may do it for ten years.
What a beautiful practice, and it will shift your life,
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I promise you. It sounds like such a small thing,
but if you can set the intention that I'm connecting
with the larger aspects of my life, the unseen aspects,
and I invite in all my support, and then start
to practice in help for four, hold for four, ex
hel for six, seven, eight, and then rest for you know,
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just a brief second in hell for four. You know,
do that. It's such a beautiful foundation, super easy, and
we can all. It doesn't have to be You don't
have to sit in a darkened room with a candle
or a singing bowl, and you can. That's a fabulous
way to practice. You can also do it when you
get to work and you sit in your car for
an extra three minutes by yourself and maybe the last
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time you get to be by yourself throughout the day,
you know, Like that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
When I first started, That's what I did. Yeah, I
was lot to the office so much that I closed
my door. Yeah, because there's things I wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, and you need to drop in.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
And I need to drop in. It's like I have
someone that needs to be solved, and in the state
I'm in, I cannot solve it. Yeah, And I think
that was what was the compelling, Yes, very compelling reason
is I cannot solve this in the state I'm in.
But when I'm calm, right, when I'm in the in
that place, I can solve damn near anything.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And look, there are there are so many people who
are like you have to meditate first thing in the morning. Well,
first of all, when anyone tells us we have to
do anything, that's a hard pass. Right. Right now, we're
going to talk more about starting when we come back
from this break.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right, y'all, welcome back. You're using my crap against me,
Thank you very much. Yeah, Okay, I'm proud. I will
make you a medal when I get my whole setup again. Yeah,
I expect one my my metal making setup. I will
make you. I will. Okay, we're back for the startup.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So anyhow, I just want to talk about you know
that that startup be easy. Don't make it to be hard.
And the other thing I want to say about starting
up is that you don't have to sit still like
some people. If they have to sit still, it's never
going to happen. Some people are in the bath. I
know you're a good Oh. I love that, right, little
water baby, were swimming because you're taking big, huge deep
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breasts when you're swimming, Like that's a great meditation. Like
there's a walking meditation is great movement to cooking meditation
like it. But you know it's a different I have
to make dinner in the next thirty minutes or you
know whatever, versus I'm making this a sacred blessing the food,
blessing the people who brought you the food, who grew
the food, who prepare right, like that can be a
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meditation too. It doesn't mean every time you cook it's
a meditation, right, but give yourself permission to drop in
and be spacious and call in the help you need,
Like this. These are ways to connect with your unseen support,
with this spacious and greater part of you as you
move through life, Like, don't force yourself to be a
sitting meditation. It's not required, it's not necessary.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Well, and the funny thing is, because we I we
started out and you said, how was it? And I,
you know, had my first wedding officiating. I came across
this really great poem about being present, and I think
that the what you gain from being present, you know,
because you miss so much if you're not right, like
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if you're always thinking about the next thing or tomorrow
or whatever it may be. And I think meditation is
the single thing I can point to that put me
in the present more than I ever had in my
entire life. And I don't I hardly miss the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah. Well, and again they would say, like, if you
do a solid fifteen minute meditation, you have Hello, Siki.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, Siki's very busy. I sorry, everybody was sick.
He's very busy. She was just on her back wallering,
you know, at wiggily and biting the pillows and all like.
So anyway, she's up, Jesus, She's going to meditate in
a minute.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Within a solid fifteen minute meditation, if you have thirty
seconds or two minutes of that deep, deep theta brain space,
that shifts the entire brain chemistry and it cleans out
the synapses, which is what allows you to be present,
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fully present throughout your entire day. So if you do
thirty years of that kind of practice, your brain shape
and chemistry and power is actually shifted.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Okay, if we have any scientists out there, I would
like for somebody to do a study.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
There's some times of studies on it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, but I am talking specifically because I'm very active
with the New Mexico Alzheimer's Association, and I'm really curious
about if that type of practice can actually I know
it helps in a lot of ways, right, but I'm
wonder if it physically helps in terms of the proteins
that build up and then turn into plaque on your brain.
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If this is something that can help that. So let's
just say it does right now, because.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
They've done a lot of meditators, they've done a lot
of meditation studies.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, I need to read that because that's really fascinating.
I need to share that with those guys. But I'm
sorry I got off, I got distracted.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
No, no, but this is again just it's a great place.
And of course one of the other questions that we
got to asked about meditation is how does this connect
with spirit guides? Right, because it's everybody's favorite topic.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It is listen, mine saved my life, so clearly, yeah,
it's my favorite topic.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's a really good one.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And it is the like once you can connect and
that's another thing changed my life. Yeah, like changed my life.
I have a life because of him, but changed it
for real. And but it is and it should be
people's favorite topic. And you know, if there's one thing
that if I ever did a graduation speech, you know,
(17:01):
and because you know how they always do like, you know,
make sure you brush your teeth there you do. Yeah,
that's stupid shit they tell you about. I would be like,
you need.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
To please brush your teeth people, I know.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Is stupid shit. Like if you've read those things, Like
if I could be young again, I would whatever I
would say to them, like my older self to my
younger self. Get to know Yeah, one is get to
know your guide and two is to meditate.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, and meditation will lead you to your guides. Yes,
so and I'm telling you right, so just shameless plug
I have. I'm teaching Spirit Guides in June, the week
of June fifth, Estlin, and we start on Saturday, the
twenty third of September for the online class in the fall.
So if you want to drain Spare guid class, please
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come do that and we will meditate.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Because yeah, and encourage everybody to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And it's literally raising the frequency you have to connecting
with your guides. Right, So you're I'm guiding you to
you know, visualize, invite, focus on these aspects so that
your guides can find you more easily. They're always there,
but when you can raise your frequency specifically to match
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that of your guides, which I'm helping them, helping them
download and you know, down lower their frequency so they
know where we're going. And your essence can lift your frequency.
So there's a connection. But so there's a correlation and
exact correlation of how often you meditate, how sincerely you're
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able to shift your own frequency that brings the focus
and accessibility in tangible experience of your guides.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So did I add to that, Yes, recently, ever since
we moved, I had a hard time that I used
to have, right, because we're in a rental I mean half,
I mean it kind of looks like a shithole if
you guys could see it. It's just like stuff stacked up.
And when the room I'm in, well.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean like you're living in a storage space.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Right kind of. Suzanne says it's like living in the
bottom of her handbag, which I think is a genius description. Seriously,
it's right, it's like live on the bottom of her handbag,
which is, by the way, more organized than mine. But
that's a whole nother conversation. But I really struggled, like
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and I have been struggling, so I like when I
go to swim or sometimes when I walk so ky
it depends, so I have to get out of the
house to have that that moment. But I will tell
you what's really interesting is the reason that I brought
this up is that Jacob, who is my main squeeze guide,
and he's not offended by being called to me and squeezes.
Everybody knows he's very handsome. But he was like tapping
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like hey, like you're just saying hey to it for
me to acknowledge, and and he did it in the
car and of course I'm like when you sit in
the front seat. So but it's like it's like, once
you have that relationship, they can also remind you, right
if you're open and you have that connection, that vibration
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connection and all of that, and which luckily I was
able to sustain even though I wasn't doing the practice
that I had been doing.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Before, right, right, because you have you established the relationship. Yes, yeah,
it's super important. And like some one of my favorite
quotes coming out of the last Spook Guy class I
do the Eslon was a woman who said I never
have to feel lonely again, because not only do I
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have my guides, they are my cheerleaders, they have my back.
And she went from not really sure about her gifts
and like just offering things small to speaking professionally at
a conference. I love that within two months in too
much She's like, oh, I'm like, you give me a
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presentation at this conference. She's like yeah, like that's amazing.
And it was a professional conference. It wasn't like, you know,
I'm going to teach meditation at this conference. It's like, no,
I am, I am speaking as with authority on this subject.
And it was I was like, yeah, she's like yeah
because of my because I have my dream team now
I'm ready to go, which.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Is right, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, you just you feel you just have more confidence,
like okay, that's real.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well and I think that confidence for me, what happened
was the confidence was because there is a knowing that
you are ye and and it is so incredible. Like
I remember I meditated a lot because they had to
when I worked at Fox. Yeah, and I could literally
shut my door like let me alone, everybody. It's like
humans leave me alone. And when I was in that space,
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I really like I was on fire because I understood,
you know, like I understood myself and what when my surroundings.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, and I feel like you just you because you're
so creative, you needed like just to feel that with
sacred energy and guidance, and that combination just made you
like a laser on the work.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
The charts.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, it was like the charts download download, and it
came in with clarity and power and you actually had
more time, not less time. I know that crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, that's the thing. People don't understand that it's like wait,
I'm gonna spend time doing this and it's like I
became so incredibly efficient the creativity, the problem solving, you know,
because I always really believe that. It's like, you know,
if I'm calm, I can solve about anything. If I
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am not, if I'm like all fired up, me and
everybody around me is screwed.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's really harder to drop in when you're not, when
you don't have time, when you don't have time and
so and so when you drop in, you think you're
dropping in, but you're not going deep enough. You're just
kind of annoying your energy level. You're like I can't
get there, can't get there.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But because I think people get yeah, and it is,
but I think people get caught up and like you said,
like light a candle, which I love to lot of
candle by the way, but it would like go to
the same spot, dark room, and there people feel so
many restrictions on it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Or should This is this is meditation. This is what
it looks like. Some of the most powerful meditations I've
had is when I'm doing something else, like oh, you're right,
You're totally right, Like I'll stop what I'm doing and
go take notes, like, oh that's so brilliant. Whe's my phone,
I gotta make a note of this.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I start keeping a notebook.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And it's really like when I'm doing something undane, whether
it's the dishes or laundry or like the really it's
the mundane things where you don't really have to think
about it, and driving sometimes where you're like boom, these
these connections drop in because I have a practice.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's you know. And I know I've said this,
I'll be very quick with this, but the first time
I really understood this, and I you know, I love
to tell stories because I think sometimes you know, sometimes
people connect and they're like, oh my god, me too.
But the first time I ever experienced something happened from
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the other side, and I know I called you about it.
It was Mona. I was driving and I like I
felt her next, like this ball of energy that that
was right there and then went like literally inside my
body and I was crying so hard I had to
pull over. Yeah, like I mean like hard cry, ugly cry.
It is not the whole work, like take every box
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of how ugly a cry could be. That's what it was.
And it was her. And then you later you told me,
You're like, well, that's when your brain is not so active,
like they have to come in when they have a chance.
When you don't meditate, when you don't meditate exactly right,
when you're not doing it. They got to find their
times when that and the and so the car was
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that place obviously a place a lot of other things too.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
But that's so great, that's great. All right, Well, we're
going to be right back with our final tip on
how to get started in just.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
A minute, and we are back. Welcome back. You're not
playing the game with me, brand It's like when I
when I try to lead you to water, you refuse you.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh my god, thank you everybody for letting us have
the show so we can entertain each other.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
All right. So, one of the other questions that came
up in this string of how to get startup meditation
practice was to find space, like physical space, but also
space in your life to practice. And so we talked
a little bit about that. You know, the space can
be literally like sometime is walking around the block and
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saying a prayer.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Or your car or you're wherever you may be.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, Like it's just whether you're at work or at home,
like just you know, and like there's there's a saying
that says, if you can't meditate walking in the streets
in New York or on a New York City bus
or something, if you can't meditate there, you're not meditating,
Like you're not okay. Like, if you can't find that sacred,
expansive place where your energy is so lit up and
aligned to the divine and like three times as wide
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as your house, you know, whatever house that is, then
like that's the state, you know, when you're meditating.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's just like I love that though I love the hold,
the bus, the train, all of that, because it doesn't matter.
It's funny because I actually prefer to stay away from
all the energy that's around me, like I prefer to
go inward, you know. So it's really nice.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah. Yeah, And when you are dialed into your personal
connection to the divine, it doesn't matter what around you
because your frequency is so high, there's no interference.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Nobody messes with you.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
You're a completely different feel So if you think about
the rainbow, like the violet doesn't worry about the red
interfering with it. It's a different frequency.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh my god, that's a T shirt. My god, that's.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Good because you're just a purple.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Doesn't worry about the red interfering. My God, I love
it well. One of the things that I have found
to be very helpful, and especially if you're doing well
any level of meditation. I mean, if you're doing a
long meditation, grounding to me is crucial, but I even
think for the short ones. So do you mind if
I share a couple of ways that i've because i've
(27:41):
I have a number of different ways. I know that
you also teach multiple ways for people to ground. But
the first way that I was taught was I would
have it was actually the back of my first chakra,
which is right above your heini on your back. And
I say it way cruder than that to other people.
(28:02):
Oh so you know where your ass crack is right
above there. So and I would drop a cord from
the back of my first chakra down through all the layers,
all the crust of the earth, and go to the
center of the earth and anchor it into the center
of the earth. And that like once that grounding like
that is when I first go like, I don't feel heavy,
(28:24):
I don't feel like something's dragging me down. I feel
the opposite. I feel light, I feel calm because I'm connected.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, it's really solid practice. It's a really solid practice
and really like I tend to do that practice in
the shower in the morning. It's it's such a foundational
practice for me because it's to do.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It from your feet, the bottom of your feet. You
can have like you know, like roots, you know, come
from the bottom of your feet and do the same thing.
Going through the different layers of the earth and then
connecting to the center has been really helpful. And then
there's more are advanced things you can do, but that's
not important right now. You can clear your energy bring
new energy in by by grounding. So I just want
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to add the grounding part because that might help people
actually feel it immediately if they actually ground first.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And some people will find doing the breathing practice first
and then doing the ground oh because the breathing yeah,
and because and some people will do it the other way, right,
the grounding first and then the breathing practice. But play
with it, make it your own as long as you
are fully engaged, right that all of you. Just bring
(29:36):
all of you to focus on. And I will say
this when you have a thought like oh, I need
to send that person email or I need to get
to this or that. Just put a bubble around that
thought and put it to the side, like I'm going
to remember that and I'll pick it up when I'm
done meditating. Okay, So don't judge yourself. If you have
a thought like an Earth School thought when you're meditating,
(29:57):
it is not a problem. Just put it aside, you
pick it up when you're done meditating.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's great advice.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, but having this this concept that says, okay, so
my process is going to be breathing somehow six to
seven breaths, like seven to ten whatever you can get.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I like ten, but good round number.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah. It's just a nice practice. And then from there,
grounding is for me the next step. And then I
like to just call in a guide or an angel
and you don't even have to know their name, just
or you could just say I call it all my
guides and all my angels, like that's fine too.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
May be busy, you may be flying off the cliffs
and doing stuff that Brenda did, but.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Don't lay down. Don't do this all standing or sitting.
Do not lay down people.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
That was what that's literally what you first told me. Yeah,
when I'm like, is I listened to I Still Love
Your Your Olden Days? It was a meditation CD that's
online because I just love your voice and and oh
I love it And it was so like for those
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because we're all different, right, like we all have different
birthday suits, we all like respond to things different. We
can be triggered by things. People are just naturally calm,
people are naturally high strung. And for those that are
always busy like that, and I don't mean like physically
busy all the time, but maybe even head busy either.
One that calm feeling like you'd pay for it, but
(31:24):
you can have it for free. It's like for real though. Yeah,
that calmness shifts everything.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, well in your nervous system responds, right, that's what
we're looking for because the nervous system knows it's okay,
you're good.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
There's like a blissfulness to it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it's just like, oh god, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, it's like, oh god, I don't, like, I don't
even know why I'm even out of a meditation. It's amazing,
Like I understand why you do your long term ones.
It's like it's there's no better feeling, you know, but
you still have to be human.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, that's why you set the time off for the meditation.
Sometimes it sucks, and so again, you know, finding space
in your life to practice as opposed to this physical
space is remember giving yourself permission to know that you
are worth that three minute investment every day. Just make
it accessible three and then three minutes is great, five
(32:20):
minutes is great. But you don't have to do more
than that. You really don't. If you do that every day, right,
that's amazing. Think of how much care you've given your field,
you've given your brain. You are a better version of
you when you do that, So it's super exciting.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So just to those who are parents, I will just
say that, you know, I had actually talked to Patricia
about this about meditation and timing because you know, sheares
three kids and when she was younger, with the kids
are still in the house, she waited for everybody to
go to bed and that's when she would do her
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menday she's like, that is my time. I made sure
it wasn't bed on time, and that's when she would
do her work because everything was quiet, and she's also
a bit of a night person, so that worked for her.
And that's the other thing to understand yourself, to find
that to make that room is like, what are you me?
I'm so slow getting out of bed in the morning.
It's like a fire drill for me to get ready,
(33:20):
to get time for anything. So morning was never an
option for me. It's not my thing.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, and that's fine, no judgment.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Exactly right. It's like this is what and who I am.
But I love the night and the night was that
time that was like amazing for me when incredible things
would show up. Yeah, so fun whoever, who you you know,
whatever you are, I think is where you start. It's like, oh,
my morning's crazy? Can I fit it in there? Do
I have to be up at five? It's like maybe
the answer is no, man.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And it's so it's so much pressure if you're not
a morning person, right, it's way too much heat. It's
way too much heat. And so like, yeah, just find
find where the opening is. Yeah, and be gentle and
gracious with yourself because again you go into these sacred spaces,
you're just doing it on command, which you don't normally do.
(34:07):
So remember that and just keep practicing until it becomes
your own practice.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I have one last thing. Yeah, and my last
thing is that encourage people to do is to remember,
like when you're in that moment, how you feel, remember
that because you're gonna want it again, Like remember that feeling.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And remember it's yours.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's yours.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah right, yeah, super important. Ye so beautiful. So thanks
for this question if we love hearing from you, and
we hope it helps let us know how you're breathing,
grounding and calling in your guides and angels and spaciousness.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
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Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
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Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
U heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that let's crush earth school together.
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Well, hello, my witchy pooh, how in the hell slash heck?
Are you nice?
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Nice self? Editing there?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It was weird. I didn't even plan for that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Just like that, I've great, I am great. How are
you you know?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I am doing fabulous.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I just want to share one quick thing because what
we're going to talk about, but I just wanted to
say that I have actually done my first wedding officiating.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh that's so exciting.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Thank you, and also thank you for your help. Of
course your help was amazing. Of course, so it was
very it was awesome. It was in Little Rock. It
was Suzanne's cousin Chad and his his now husband Myron.
So of course, naturally, my first one's a gay one.
How my next one I have another one on deck,
and this is awesome. My high school boyfriend John, his
(01:42):
son Colin, who I love. I mean, I love the
whole damn family. Yeah, like all of them, Jenny, Dianne, Mark, John,
like the whole group, their kids, all of it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I love that family so much. But anyway, I'll be
officiating Colin and Laura Beth's wedding as well. So I'm
very excited. I love this work.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
By the way, it's such an honor, right, it's such
an honor. I'm doing one on Saturday too.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You are, yes, in Cincinnati?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
In Cincinnati, yes, Oh, some picks'll be so sweet?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Do you like the gown and stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Do you because I do? I have a whole get
up because I like because I like a good costume.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I'm a reverend.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Hello, Well I am from the whatever church online, so
and they have a whole store of the get ups.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So I always asked the couple, the couple, what would
you like me to wear?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oh? So I always ask what if they said nothing,
I would decline that opportunity, saying, by the way, who
was insane and she owns a cemetery. So yeah, I
I love it. It is an honor. Like I was
(03:03):
so like serious about it, like I really wanted it
to be amazing for them that they would remember as
well as their guest, you know. And I'm doing the
same with Colin and Morobeth. So it is exciting. It
is an honor.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it's a it's a really fun time because it is.
I take it seriously too, because it's fun. It's like, Okay,
I'm committed to your your journey together, like I'm committed.
So I take them to Colby and Ingram and we
talk about how they're going to navigate and find supporting
each other and their differences and as humane.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, well, you might be stealing my future gigs by
saying shit like that. When I do not do that
for my people, I have a very different conversation. It's
not a competition, but it felt like one because yours
is way deeper like your mis enneagram. I'm like a
goofy fucking elf.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, but you have customs costumes.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And a little bit of a sency humor when I
do it.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's got to be playful Otherwise.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Others, what's the point? Okay, enough about that. I just
want to share it because it's exciting. I love this.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah. The first one you'll never get, of course, mine
is Barbie and Geen.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh my god. Okay, that's that's an offline convo.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Insiders inside here we go.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Right, Okay, So we have people and they're asking us stuff,
and they're asking us about We love our people and
their stuff. But you know, I think some folks are
struggling or want more kind of tips and hints and
tricks on meditation because I think they know that it's powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They do, they do, and I think people want, you know,
to have their experiences, but they want to get it
right or they don't know if this Like there's a
lot of are you sure this is worth it? Because
if I just do this, it doesn't seem like much.
And I think this is a really important conversation to
(05:10):
have to remind people that you naturally go in and
out of this kind of sacred space where you're connected
to something larger than yourself throughout the day. Like, yes,
we can give you techniques, we can give you steps,
but this is actually reconnecting that was something that's actually
(05:31):
a very natural state. So I think that's an important
thing to remember. So in that way, you agree, right,
you can't get it wrong, Like just give yourself that
sacred space and you'll fall into it.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And let's be honest, there's history that goes back to
the beginning of mankind where they did things that were
if they didn't call it meditation, it was very it
was it's what they did, you know, when you have
like the monks and the Himalayas, that's what they did.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
They still do.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They still do, no doubt, obviously they still do. But
it's like, this is not like a new this isn't
a new age thing, folks, this is an old age thing.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Trying to say, yeah, yes, it's part of our nature, right, yeah,
it's your pashu. It is the essence of who you are.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And then I would say, bless you if you said
I may be the wrong co host for this episode,
but I'm here.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's still very relevant, my dear. All right, So the
first thing, let's just talk about how to start, Like
people want to know how to start meditating. And I
can tell stories again about how I started meditating, which
was a freak out for me, but because I was like,
why would anyone do this? This is crazy because I
closed my eyes and all this shit happened, and I
(06:52):
was like, I don't know what's happening. Why is this
different from any other time I closed my eyes. I
I didn't know I was cliff diving, like off a
Capolco cliffs. I was running in front of a train.
I was like doing like I was Superman or something
like it was nuts, Like it was just crazy, and
like why did people say that this is relaxing exhausted?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I didn't know about the cliff jumping. That's actually
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That was the first time. And then I called my
brother who said I should meditate, and he's like, you
you told you. I told you not to lay down.
I'm like, you said, no such thing.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You told me not to lay down.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, but this is why I told you not to
lay down. But still I wondered, I closed my eyes
every night when I lay down. Why was it different
and why it's different? This is why I'm telling the story.
Is why it's different is because there's a signal to
every cell in your being, and there's a signal that
goes out to the other side, including your loved ones,
(07:50):
including your guides that you're assigned, including the sacred deities
that you've worked with, your angels, everybody. There's this signal
that goes out, Hey, here she is finally getting quiet.
Let's go in.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
We got her, right, we got her trapped.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, Like this is a big opportunity, right, And that's
kind of what happened. And so it is different. And
so this is what I would suggest, and this is
how I started. I literally started with a digital clock
in my lap. Now today we can use our phone
or watch this to set a timer. But just give
yourself two minutes to start. If this is the first
(08:29):
time or you've had many false starts, you're like, it's
not working. Give yourself two minutes and all you're going
to do is give yourself ten breaths in hell, Like
to the account of four, hold for four?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Why do I always do what you say when we're recording,
Like just I was doing it, You always do anything
in stri I'm like, okay, wait a second, you going
too faska.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
But I'm doing so You're going to inhale for four,
hold for four? An exhale for six.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, wait, I can make six.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You can make six, And remember you want in you
want to exhale longer than the inhal So in hell
for four, hold for four or three, depending on your capacity,
and exhal for six, seven, up to eight, like twice
as long as the inhale, and you can count faster, right,
and you can do to your own pulsation, your own count.
(09:33):
You can set a metronome on your phone, do whatever
you want to do, but make it accessible so it's
a little bit challenging, but it's not going to freak
out your nervous system because that defeats the purpose. We
want your nervous system calm everything to be peaceful. So
if you can do seven to ten breaths like that
in two minutes, and then you'll have probably thirty seconds
(09:55):
left to just be still and expansive in that space.
And when your timer goes off, you can ask yourself,
would I like to sit in this sacred space for
another minute? And sometimes the answer'll be yes, and sometimes
they'll be like I don't have time for that, then
fine and let it go, and then come back the
next day and do the same thing until it's like
(10:17):
yes and now I want to wait for another minute.
I want to sit in this space for another two minutes,
another three days, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You know, so you joke about three days, but I
know you've done that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh my god, it's my favorite. But here nor there
like this is it can be that simple. Never underestimate
a solid three minute practice as a starting place for
your meditation practice, and a starting place. You may do
this for ten months, you may do it for ten years.
What a beautiful practice, and it will shift your life,
(10:51):
I promise you. It sounds like such a small thing,
but if you can set the intention that I'm connecting
with the larger aspects of my life, the unseen aspects,
and I invite in all my support, and then start
to practice in help for four, hold for four, ex
hel for six, seven, eight, and then rest for you know,
(11:13):
just a brief second in hell for four. You know,
do that. It's such a beautiful foundation, super easy, and
we can all. It doesn't have to be You don't
have to sit in a darkened room with a candle
or a singing bowl, and you can. That's a fabulous
way to practice. You can also do it when you
get to work and you sit in your car for
an extra three minutes by yourself and maybe the last
(11:35):
time you get to be by yourself throughout the day,
you know, Like that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
When I first started, That's what I did. Yeah, I
was lot to the office so much that I closed
my door. Yeah, because there's things I wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, and you need to drop in.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
And I need to drop in. It's like I have
someone that needs to be solved, and in the state
I'm in, I cannot solve it. Yeah, And I think
that was what was the compelling, Yes, very compelling reason
is I cannot solve this in the state I'm in.
But when I'm calm, right, when I'm in the in
that place, I can solve damn near anything.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And look, there are there are so many people who
are like you have to meditate first thing in the morning. Well,
first of all, when anyone tells us we have to
do anything, that's a hard pass. Right. Right now, we're
going to talk more about starting when we come back
from this break.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right, y'all, welcome back. You're using my crap against me,
Thank you very much. Yeah, Okay, I'm proud. I will
make you a medal when I get my whole setup again. Yeah,
I expect one my my metal making setup. I will
make you. I will. Okay, we're back for the startup.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So anyhow, I just want to talk about you know
that that startup be easy. Don't make it to be hard.
And the other thing I want to say about starting
up is that you don't have to sit still like
some people. If they have to sit still, it's never
going to happen. Some people are in the bath. I
know you're a good Oh. I love that, right, little
water baby, were swimming because you're taking big, huge deep
(13:14):
breasts when you're swimming, Like that's a great meditation. Like
there's a walking meditation is great movement to cooking meditation
like it. But you know it's a different I have
to make dinner in the next thirty minutes or you
know whatever, versus I'm making this a sacred blessing the food,
blessing the people who brought you the food, who grew
the food, who prepare right, like that can be a
(13:36):
meditation too. It doesn't mean every time you cook it's
a meditation, right, but give yourself permission to drop in
and be spacious and call in the help you need,
Like this. These are ways to connect with your unseen support,
with this spacious and greater part of you as you
move through life, Like, don't force yourself to be a
sitting meditation. It's not required, it's not necessary.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Well, and the funny thing is, because we I we
started out and you said, how was it? And I,
you know, had my first wedding officiating. I came across
this really great poem about being present, and I think
that the what you gain from being present, you know,
because you miss so much if you're not right, like
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if you're always thinking about the next thing or tomorrow
or whatever it may be. And I think meditation is
the single thing I can point to that put me
in the present more than I ever had in my
entire life. And I don't I hardly miss the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah. Well, and again they would say, like, if you
do a solid fifteen minute meditation, you have Hello, Siki.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I know, Siki's very busy. I sorry, everybody was sick.
He's very busy. She was just on her back wallering,
you know, at wiggily and biting the pillows and all like.
So anyway, she's up, Jesus, She's going to meditate in
a minute.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Within a solid fifteen minute meditation, if you have thirty
seconds or two minutes of that deep, deep theta brain space,
that shifts the entire brain chemistry and it cleans out
the synapses, which is what allows you to be present,
(15:24):
fully present throughout your entire day. So if you do
thirty years of that kind of practice, your brain shape
and chemistry and power is actually shifted.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Okay, if we have any scientists out there, I would
like for somebody to do a study.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
There's some times of studies on it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, but I am talking specifically because I'm very active
with the New Mexico Alzheimer's Association, and I'm really curious
about if that type of practice can actually I know
it helps in a lot of ways, right, but I'm
wonder if it physically helps in terms of the proteins
that build up and then turn into plaque on your brain.
(16:02):
If this is something that can help that. So let's
just say it does right now, because.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
They've done a lot of meditators, they've done a lot
of meditation studies.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, I need to read that because that's really fascinating.
I need to share that with those guys. But I'm
sorry I got off, I got distracted.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
No, no, but this is again just it's a great place.
And of course one of the other questions that we
got to asked about meditation is how does this connect
with spirit guides? Right, because it's everybody's favorite topic.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It is listen, mine saved my life, so clearly, yeah,
it's my favorite topic.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's a really good one.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And it is the like once you can connect and
that's another thing changed my life. Yeah, like changed my life.
I have a life because of him, but changed it
for real. And but it is and it should be
people's favorite topic. And you know, if there's one thing
that if I ever did a graduation speech, you know,
(17:01):
and because you know how they always do like, you know,
make sure you brush your teeth there you do. Yeah,
that's stupid shit they tell you about. I would be like,
you need.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
To please brush your teeth people, I know.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Is stupid shit. Like if you've read those things, Like
if I could be young again, I would whatever I
would say to them, like my older self to my
younger self. Get to know Yeah, one is get to
know your guide and two is to meditate.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, and meditation will lead you to your guides. Yes,
so and I'm telling you right, so just shameless plug
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(17:50):
come do that and we will meditate.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Because yeah, and encourage everybody to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And it's literally raising the frequency you have to connecting
with your guides. Right, So you're I'm guiding you to
you know, visualize, invite, focus on these aspects so that
your guides can find you more easily. They're always there,
but when you can raise your frequency specifically to match
(18:19):
that of your guides, which I'm helping them, helping them
download and you know, down lower their frequency so they
know where we're going. And your essence can lift your frequency.
So there's a connection. But so there's a correlation and
exact correlation of how often you meditate, how sincerely you're
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able to shift your own frequency that brings the focus
and accessibility in tangible experience of your guides.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So did I add to that, Yes, recently, ever since
we moved, I had a hard time that I used
to have, right, because we're in a rental I mean half,
I mean it kind of looks like a shithole if
you guys could see it. It's just like stuff stacked up.
And when the room I'm in, well.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean like you're living in a storage space.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Right kind of. Suzanne says it's like living in the
bottom of her handbag, which I think is a genius description. Seriously,
it's right, it's like live on the bottom of her handbag,
which is, by the way, more organized than mine. But
that's a whole nother conversation. But I really struggled, like
(19:29):
and I have been struggling, so I like when I
go to swim or sometimes when I walk so ky
it depends, so I have to get out of the
house to have that that moment. But I will tell
you what's really interesting is the reason that I brought
this up is that Jacob, who is my main squeeze guide,
and he's not offended by being called to me and squeezes.
Everybody knows he's very handsome. But he was like tapping
(19:53):
like hey, like you're just saying hey to it for
me to acknowledge, and and he did it in the
car and of course I'm like when you sit in
the front seat. So but it's like it's like, once
you have that relationship, they can also remind you, right
if you're open and you have that connection, that vibration
(20:14):
connection and all of that, and which luckily I was
able to sustain even though I wasn't doing the practice
that I had been doing.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Before, right, right, because you have you established the relationship. Yes, yeah,
it's super important. And like some one of my favorite
quotes coming out of the last Spook Guy class I
do the Eslon was a woman who said I never
have to feel lonely again, because not only do I
(20:40):
have my guides, they are my cheerleaders, they have my back.
And she went from not really sure about her gifts
and like just offering things small to speaking professionally at
a conference. I love that within two months in too
much She's like, oh, I'm like, you give me a
(21:03):
presentation at this conference. She's like yeah, like that's amazing.
And it was a professional conference. It wasn't like, you know,
I'm going to teach meditation at this conference. It's like, no,
I am, I am speaking as with authority on this subject.
And it was I was like, yeah, she's like yeah
because of my because I have my dream team now
I'm ready to go, which.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Is right, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, you just you feel you just have more confidence,
like okay, that's real.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well and I think that confidence for me, what happened
was the confidence was because there is a knowing that
you are ye and and it is so incredible. Like
I remember I meditated a lot because they had to
when I worked at Fox. Yeah, and I could literally
shut my door like let me alone, everybody. It's like
humans leave me alone. And when I was in that space,
(21:54):
I really like I was on fire because I understood,
you know, like I understood myself and what when my surroundings.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, and I feel like you just you because you're
so creative, you needed like just to feel that with
sacred energy and guidance, and that combination just made you
like a laser on the work.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
The charts.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, it was like the charts download download, and it
came in with clarity and power and you actually had
more time, not less time. I know that crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, that's the thing. People don't understand that it's like wait,
I'm gonna spend time doing this and it's like I
became so incredibly efficient the creativity, the problem solving, you know,
because I always really believe that. It's like, you know,
if I'm calm, I can solve about anything. If I
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am not, if I'm like all fired up, me and
everybody around me is screwed.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's really harder to drop in when you're not, when
you don't have time, when you don't have time and
so and so when you drop in, you think you're
dropping in, but you're not going deep enough. You're just
kind of annoying your energy level. You're like I can't
get there, can't get there.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But because I think people get yeah, and it is,
but I think people get caught up and like you said,
like light a candle, which I love to lot of
candle by the way, but it would like go to
the same spot, dark room, and there people feel so
many restrictions on it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Or should This is this is meditation. This is what
it looks like. Some of the most powerful meditations I've
had is when I'm doing something else, like oh, you're right,
You're totally right, Like I'll stop what I'm doing and
go take notes, like, oh that's so brilliant. Whe's my phone,
I gotta make a note of this.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I start keeping a notebook.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
And it's really like when I'm doing something undane, whether
it's the dishes or laundry or like the really it's
the mundane things where you don't really have to think
about it, and driving sometimes where you're like boom, these
these connections drop in because I have a practice.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's you know. And I know I've said this,
I'll be very quick with this, but the first time
I really understood this, and I you know, I love
to tell stories because I think sometimes you know, sometimes
people connect and they're like, oh my god, me too.
But the first time I ever experienced something happened from
(24:24):
the other side, and I know I called you about it.
It was Mona. I was driving and I like I
felt her next, like this ball of energy that that
was right there and then went like literally inside my
body and I was crying so hard I had to
pull over. Yeah, like I mean like hard cry, ugly cry.
It is not the whole work, like take every box
(24:45):
of how ugly a cry could be. That's what it was.
And it was her. And then you later you told me,
You're like, well, that's when your brain is not so active,
like they have to come in when they have a chance.
When you don't meditate, when you don't meditate exactly right,
when you're not doing it. They got to find their
times when that and the and so the car was
(25:05):
that place obviously a place a lot of other things too.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
But that's so great, that's great. All right, Well, we're
going to be right back with our final tip on
how to get started in just.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
A minute, and we are back. Welcome back. You're not
playing the game with me, brand It's like when I
when I try to lead you to water, you refuse you.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh my god, thank you everybody for letting us have
the show so we can entertain each other.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
All right. So, one of the other questions that came
up in this string of how to get startup meditation
practice was to find space, like physical space, but also
space in your life to practice. And so we talked
a little bit about that. You know, the space can
be literally like sometime is walking around the block and
(26:02):
saying a prayer.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Or your car or you're wherever you may be.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, Like it's just whether you're at work or at home,
like just you know, and like there's there's a saying
that says, if you can't meditate walking in the streets
in New York or on a New York City bus
or something, if you can't meditate there, you're not meditating,
Like you're not okay. Like, if you can't find that sacred,
expansive place where your energy is so lit up and
aligned to the divine and like three times as wide
(26:29):
as your house, you know, whatever house that is, then
like that's the state, you know, when you're meditating.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
It's just like I love that though I love the hold,
the bus, the train, all of that, because it doesn't matter.
It's funny because I actually prefer to stay away from
all the energy that's around me, like I prefer to
go inward, you know. So it's really nice.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah. Yeah, And when you are dialed into your personal
connection to the divine, it doesn't matter what around you
because your frequency is so high, there's no interference.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Nobody messes with you.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
You're a completely different feel So if you think about
the rainbow, like the violet doesn't worry about the red
interfering with it. It's a different frequency.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh my god, that's a T shirt. My god, that's.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Good because you're just a purple.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Doesn't worry about the red interfering. My God, I love
it well. One of the things that I have found
to be very helpful, and especially if you're doing well
any level of meditation. I mean, if you're doing a
long meditation, grounding to me is crucial, but I even
think for the short ones. So do you mind if
I share a couple of ways that i've because i've
(27:41):
I have a number of different ways. I know that
you also teach multiple ways for people to ground. But
the first way that I was taught was I would
have it was actually the back of my first chakra,
which is right above your heini on your back. And
I say it way cruder than that to other people.
(28:02):
Oh so you know where your ass crack is right
above there. So and I would drop a cord from
the back of my first chakra down through all the layers,
all the crust of the earth, and go to the
center of the earth and anchor it into the center
of the earth. And that like once that grounding like
that is when I first go like, I don't feel heavy,
(28:24):
I don't feel like something's dragging me down. I feel
the opposite. I feel light, I feel calm because I'm connected.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, it's really solid practice. It's a really solid practice
and really like I tend to do that practice in
the shower in the morning. It's it's such a foundational
practice for me because it's to do.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It from your feet, the bottom of your feet. You
can have like you know, like roots, you know, come
from the bottom of your feet and do the same thing.
Going through the different layers of the earth and then
connecting to the center has been really helpful. And then
there's more are advanced things you can do, but that's
not important right now. You can clear your energy bring
new energy in by by grounding. So I just want
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to add the grounding part because that might help people
actually feel it immediately if they actually ground first.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And some people will find doing the breathing practice first
and then doing the ground oh because the breathing yeah,
and because and some people will do it the other way, right,
the grounding first and then the breathing practice. But play
with it, make it your own as long as you
are fully engaged, right that all of you. Just bring
(29:36):
all of you to focus on. And I will say
this when you have a thought like oh, I need
to send that person email or I need to get
to this or that. Just put a bubble around that
thought and put it to the side, like I'm going
to remember that and I'll pick it up when I'm
done meditating. Okay, So don't judge yourself. If you have
a thought like an Earth School thought when you're meditating,
(29:57):
it is not a problem. Just put it aside, you
pick it up when you're done meditating.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
That's great advice.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, but having this this concept that says, okay, so
my process is going to be breathing somehow six to
seven breaths, like seven to ten whatever you can get.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I like ten, but good round number.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah. It's just a nice practice. And then from there,
grounding is for me the next step. And then I
like to just call in a guide or an angel
and you don't even have to know their name, just
or you could just say I call it all my
guides and all my angels, like that's fine too.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
May be busy, you may be flying off the cliffs
and doing stuff that Brenda did, but.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Don't lay down. Don't do this all standing or sitting.
Do not lay down people.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
That was what that's literally what you first told me. Yeah,
when I'm like, is I listened to I Still Love
Your Your Olden Days? It was a meditation CD that's
online because I just love your voice and and oh
I love it And it was so like for those
(31:01):
because we're all different, right, like we all have different
birthday suits, we all like respond to things different. We
can be triggered by things. People are just naturally calm,
people are naturally high strung. And for those that are
always busy like that, and I don't mean like physically
busy all the time, but maybe even head busy either.
One that calm feeling like you'd pay for it, but
(31:24):
you can have it for free. It's like for real though. Yeah,
that calmness shifts everything.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, well in your nervous system responds, right, that's what
we're looking for because the nervous system knows it's okay,
you're good.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
There's like a blissfulness to it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it's just like, oh god, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, it's like, oh god, I don't, like, I don't
even know why I'm even out of a meditation. It's amazing,
Like I understand why you do your long term ones.
It's like it's there's no better feeling, you know, but
you still have to be human.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, that's why you set the time off for the meditation.
Sometimes it sucks, and so again, you know, finding space
in your life to practice as opposed to this physical
space is remember giving yourself permission to know that you
are worth that three minute investment every day. Just make
it accessible three and then three minutes is great, five
(32:20):
minutes is great. But you don't have to do more
than that. You really don't. If you do that every day, right,
that's amazing. Think of how much care you've given your field,
you've given your brain. You are a better version of
you when you do that, So it's super exciting.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So just to those who are parents, I will just
say that, you know, I had actually talked to Patricia
about this about meditation and timing because you know, sheares
three kids and when she was younger, with the kids
are still in the house, she waited for everybody to
go to bed and that's when she would do her
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menday she's like, that is my time. I made sure
it wasn't bed on time, and that's when she would
do her work because everything was quiet, and she's also
a bit of a night person, so that worked for her.
And that's the other thing to understand yourself, to find
that to make that room is like, what are you me?
I'm so slow getting out of bed in the morning.
It's like a fire drill for me to get ready,
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to get time for anything. So morning was never an
option for me. It's not my thing.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, and that's fine, no judgment.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Exactly right. It's like this is what and who I am.
But I love the night and the night was that
time that was like amazing for me when incredible things
would show up. Yeah, so fun whoever, who you you know,
whatever you are, I think is where you start. It's like, oh,
my morning's crazy? Can I fit it in there? Do
I have to be up at five? It's like maybe
the answer is no, man.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And it's so it's so much pressure if you're not
a morning person, right, it's way too much heat. It's
way too much heat. And so like, yeah, just find
find where the opening is. Yeah, and be gentle and
gracious with yourself because again you go into these sacred spaces,
you're just doing it on command, which you don't normally do.
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So remember that and just keep practicing until it becomes
your own practice.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I have one last thing. Yeah, and my last
thing is that encourage people to do is to remember,
like when you're in that moment, how you feel, remember
that because you're gonna want it again, Like remember that feeling.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And remember it's yours.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's yours.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah right, yeah, super important. Ye so beautiful. So thanks
for this question if we love hearing from you, and
we hope it helps let us know how you're breathing,
grounding and calling in your guides and angels and spaciousness.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Goes okay, tell us everything.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Thanks for listening, everybody, and remember our school.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Is hard without the other side and meditation and grounding
and guides and our Witchipoo and else by a long list.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Thank everybody, Thank you for joining us, everyone, and a
special thanks to our producer Joey Patt and our executive
producer Maya Cole Howard, who guides us well. We guide you.
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