May 18, 2022 • 44 mins
Sunday's Full Moon & Total Lunar Eclipse has many of you asking: What's my life purpose? Why am I in this situation (good or bad)? Did I really sign up for this?! Is there another reason for my current life challenges? Eclipse energy intensifies things in a way that powerfully gets your attention to wonder about the bigger picture - on a deeper level.That's why this is the perfect time to discuss the process of pre-life planning—the contract you make on The Other Side with your Spirit Team before returning to Earth School. Your contract has many purposes: healing, overcoming challenges, expanding love in our world, and karmic balancing... just to name a few.Earth School is hard, until you recognize that every moment of your life is part of a Divine plan full of support, grace, and co-creation. And then, even the most difficult circumstances take on a higher meaning and purpose.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now,
y'all need to know that we are obsessed with everything
on the other side. Yes, we are, because once you
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learn to navigate the energetic, or to some the invisible world,
life is going to be more fun and much more serene. Heck,
yes it can, because let's be honest, Brian, earth school
is hard. In fact, you taught me that let's crush
Earth School together. Well, hello, my witchy woo, I met
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another cava food Oh, caba fool you. Yeah, I know.
My brother's dogs are exquisite. Little Lulu he is like
the leader of my kabapoo pack. She's so sweet. Gaba
foods are so sweet. But what's the new capapoo's name?
Her name is Willow. Willow, Yeah, she doesn't like that name.
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I have to say. Yeah, Well, I'll let her her
guardian know. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, she's a new
one to the world, and they're all figuring each other,
sniffing each other's butts. They'll figure everything out, you know.
You ask how are you my elf? And how are
you my elf? Sorry? We have we got cavapoo to
st well, I want to tell you because we start
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did the countdown to start, you know, to our recording,
and I had the ear ringing. I'm like, oh, somebody's
trying to get through like some it was like I
mean literally it was three too. Was like going on MYNT.
I'm like, it's gonna be a good episode. Okay, let's
do it. Let's do it well today. I love this,
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this is I love that you suggested this. I think
it is such great episode. First we know that I
don't tos do, but this one they gave me. And
then like this is it's time we need to talk
about this. And I actually think why is because the nodes,
the moon nodes are really being activated, particularly in this quarter,
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but particularly highly this year, but particularly this quarter with
the eclipses that we were going through. So I think
that's why and what we'll talk more about that. But
that's really interesting though, because we have an eclipse I'm
able to see here on Sunday. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
we are recording this um yeah on whatever data. Yes, yeah,
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there's a linear full linear eclipse coming up and um.
And the thing about that is that, UM, so when
the north node gets activated, that is an invitation of
a grander invitation. First of all, our whole birth chard
is the invitation to activate our commitment to our life plan.
But the north node says, let go of what's familiar
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and go to your growth spot. So where your north
note is in your chart is where you want to
focus on activating, developing, learning, stretching yourself, getting out of
your comfort zone. All those things we hate because it
makes its very vulnerable and it's secure and it's scary
and I'm comfortable. Okay, So let's roll this back a second.
So the we're calling pre life planning, and you know
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a lot of people do planning, by the way, for
their end of life. You know, people plan for wills
or how to be treated the hospital and reseuch, right,
do I want to be buried, burned, whatever effets? They
just had that conversation before we got on the phone,
which is very strange. UM. It was with Pubby. Of
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course we talked about everything so and ad to we've
ad to weave into every episode. So you know, Kep,
now we're talking about it. But so we do really,
you know, most of us do a pretty good job
on that, you know, planning for the end of life.
People do terrible jobs in this country because we don't
really we don't really talk about that that much. Know,
we're really bad about it for sure, but even though
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people need to know it exists. So let's just like
take that and then we go to the pre life planning,
talk about not understanding it, and you talk about different
cultures will dive into that too, but this is the
pre life planning We've talked over the years on this
show and on our you know, special pre prep calls
how to which are really fun. We should record those
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um um of of the of the different lessons, like
you know, how this works, like there is you know,
all the things that that as spirits we miss as
humans and our lessons and that's why you know it's
our school is hard without the other side. And so
I'm just gonna flat out and ask you why is
our school so hard? Our school is so hard because
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between the pre life planning and the Earth School arrival,
the angels blow into our face and blast us with
love and blow out any recollection that we agreed to.
This that's why it's so hard. Okay, So then I
have a question about that, um you and I love
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how you say that, because you do it so beautifully
and eloquently of course, and I'm sure i'll cuss in
my um. So when we talk about the angels blowing
in our faces and the da da da, the love
and the you know, memory wipe, um, do they miss
a spot with some people that actually come in with
a lot of knowledge. Well, and and my experience, and
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you know, I'm curious as yours as well, but my
experiences people tend to remember past lives more than they
remember pre life planning. Those are two, Those are two
different things. Very good distinction. Thank you. Yes that makes
sense because you know, one of my friends, Cathy Bird,
wrote the book The Boy who Knew Too Much right,
and her son right, um, and so obviously her son yeah,
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oh that yeah, her son at a very young age, um,
before you can even talk, he was pointing, um, the
Mets guy with the Luke Garrick. Yeah, and he was
like pointing or and doing all this stuff and like
he like he was Luke Garrig. He was right. And
so I asked for that reason, and then of course,
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by the way, I mean, jeez, what they have gone
through in their life as a result of this whole thing.
And he was an exceptional baseball player too, And I
actually hit like Luke Garrig, like that's really crazy stuff.
And she went in and ended up meeting some of
Luke Garrig's descendants, um, and recognizing things at their old house.
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This is and this is mine exactly that was. It's
not like, oh that was mine, went back in the day.
He's like, no, that's mine, give it to me, it's mine. Correct.
And then even um, the other baseball player that he
had a rivalry with. I don't remember who it is,
but somebody this is this is girl talks, so we
don't not important was boards to us, but you know
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he pointed at whoever it was and said, mommy, he
was mean to me. And they kid have no idea
the history of those two like no ideas. So anyway,
that's why I was asking, like, oh, well, maybe they missed.
But your point is that there are two different things
so differently. Go back to the free life planning, and
to tell us more so in pre life there there
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there they interact with each other, but they're two different things.
So in free life planning, you meet with your spirit
guides and you know in the in the strategic meeting
of what you're going to accept as far as challenges
and what you're going to accept as far as gifts
to have a successful life. Successful not in the terms
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of Earth School that we think of a success as
you know, bringing your gifts, being rewarded, being acknowledged, being happy,
being healthy, contributing, blah blah blah. That's all Earth School standards.
That doesn't have anything to do with that strategic conversation
pre life, which is all ab out it's because it's
conducted at a soul level, not at a personality level.
And it's like, where are you going to expand Let's
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take a look at your trajectory or if you want
to put it in Earth school terms, like what other
roles have you played and contributed to humanity that we
are now going to expand upon? And and so so
many times when we are in our soul state, we
are brave and feeling the support and the you know,
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non duality experience of the spirit world. So we sign
up for big challenges knowing that we are not disconnected
ever from the other side from our our expanded soul state.
But when we come to earth school we forget it instantly.
Was that like a case of your eyes are bigger
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than your stomach, Like this is delicious at all? And
then you get back you're like eight tin By It's
like I'm full, well, I'm done, I'm over, and I
didn't really like any of that. You can feel like
you can feel a little bit like that. But remember,
in those pre life planning sessions, you're always looking to,
of course karmically balance your previous lives as well. So
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if you're someone who was not compassionate, you like, I
really want to understand compassion. And what's amazing in those
pre life sessions is it's really in the best way
self focused. We've talked before in this space that how
there are no victims and there, yes there's wrongdoing, but
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there are no victims. We've signed up for this somehow before,
even though it seems completely unfair on justin fathomable, like
how come TI, I'm stupid? Like wait, I signed up
for what? Yeah, shooting me? I did what? Like next
time somebody to have you on the shelves. I don't
do that, that's all. But you agreed to it, right
and definitely and so this is so it's really about
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these you know, because we think of it as a
retribution um or punish me and sometimes and um when
because when we get to your school, like why did
this happen to me? What did I do wrong? And
it's never about that. It's literally you signed up for
this challenge and you literally are expanding the love that's
available in the universe by healing this, by overcoming these
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challenges with grace, with you know, dignity of your own
self love. Like a lot of times that's one of
the challenges, like you have to forgive yourself, you have
to accept what you did and and but with love
and compassion not judgment. So I love that so many
times in those strategic sessions, like it's really a deep
dive for self of accountability and responsibility for where you're
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committed to growth. And then you have to you know,
cast your your life on earth school. So then you
bring in these souls that you've interacted with before, remembering
that we reincarnate in family sessions and um and family
groups right or tribal groups. How every want and think
about that until you're like, go and you'll say, hey,
I need this experience where you you know, you'd be
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mean to me in the session, and they'll be like, no,
I can't do that. Please, I really need this and
I trust you to do it. Okay, I'll do it,
but we got but we uh you know, we can
only do it for a short time because I really
that's going to hurt a lot. And the truth is,
you know, when we're in our school, we don't remember
that part. We just but when we can do this side,
we're like, oh my god, you did such a good
tap your culture you on that note, I'm going to
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take us to a break. Oh my gosh, I know,
which is weird, right, I know. I want to come
back though, because I think what would be really great
is to share, like, what are some examples of pre
life planning, Like let's like get into the weeds of
it so people can understand what are some of the things.
It might not be yours in particular you listeners, but
to understand what some of them are, and then we'll
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talk about how can we can start to identify those
and know that hey, I this is something I need
to be paying attention to and and trying to solve
for right? Is that fair? So we'll take a break
and we'll be right back everybody. And we're back everybody
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pre life planning, and let's talk about what some of
these like when we're you know, we're when we're in
spirit form. What are some of the specific lessons things
that we want to learn? And I'm saying it generally right,
this is just if so people can be curious and
think about their own life through this kind of filter.
What are some of the things that we that we
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plan for? Well, um, so some of the things we
plan for our If I was in a position where
I abdicated my power in a previous life, Um, my
personal power, I got pushed around a lot and I
didn't do anything. I would want to sign up for
a lifetime where I was challenged and I stood up
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for my personal integrity and empowerment. So that would be
something I would sign up for. Oh, that's a good one.
So let me ask a few questions then, because you
know I always come up with sometimes good questions, sometimes ridiculous.
So you can ask me an origin story for that.
Maybe maybe what would iron Man do? Um, so I
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should have bracelets? What would iron Man do? Uh, okay. So,
for instance, if you in another life, and does it
even have to be if I'm not mistaken the last life,
it could be accumulation, right. So like if you were,
I'm gonna say, um a jerk, right, Like the example
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you gave was something more inside yourself type of right.
And so the way that you treated others. Right. So
we've talked so much about um, when it's time for
us to jump to one of the first things that
happens as we go through a life review and you're
in the position of the other person to feel what
they felt based on your actions, words, thoughts, whatever it
may be. So let's talk about how we can how
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we interact as our group. What are some of the
things that we would come back for those types of lessons? So,
and and the thing about that some way in the
life review you're like, Oh, you're learning, you're integrating, and
you're understanding more of earth school with a different, completely
broader lens, right, and in a way that we don't
operate normally at our school and not not ever, but
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oftentimes we don't operate with that big perspective. Oh, how
is this going to impact someone in every single exchange?
Right in every single exchange, because that's that's what happens
in the life review. And then you would go, Okay,
what did I learn about that? And when I look
at my other lifetimes and all all my lessons from
my other lifetimes, what's still missing? How did I not
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bring the essence of my soul and my gifts and
all that I've learned over lifetimes. How did I bring
that to the planet, Because those are the gaps we
want to address in our life planning for our next incarnation, right,
So where not and again that's in astrology. Spe that's
where we're turning from the south node things we've done
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before to the north node. This is and these are
now the opportunities I want to bring forward like that, Yeah,
and so and remember for for a soul, you know,
ultimately in all of these many incarnations and you know,
bites at the apple of of bringing a gifts forward
where we want to absolutely build on the gifts we have,
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but continue to grow. And so we accept challenges. And
the challenges can take many forms from you know, coming
in with differently able to body, a different neurow, neurow
atypical um too, addictions to raising uh a child that's different,
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right somehow, whether it's a physical or neuro um different functioning,
and you know in these aspects, so I that is
um that See here's the thing. When you say it,
it all makes sense. I know, it makes right, It
makes so much like oh my goss. Of course, I'm
not being punished. I'm just being taught to learn a
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new lesson and and and try to do it with
as much grace. Right. So I have another question, because
this one has absolutely fascinated me because I know somebody
that this happened to um and this is about meeting
up again with our people, right um there, Because you
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remember you cast your life from from all your like
the movie. It's like casting directors. Yes, we are casting
directors in that pre life planning and you're negotiating contracts.
Will you do this for me? Nope, that's too hard.
I don't love you that much, right or I love
you so much? Of course I will. I will come
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up and just be, you know, be be that child
that you have to push around in a wheelchair and
continue to find that compassion and that strength every day,
like whatever it is that they're standing up for. Right.
So this friend of mine when he was nineteen, he
went to New Orleans and with a bunch of buddies
went into one of the you know voodoo shops right
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as his car as one does. I mean, you can't
avoid him, and it's super fun um uh. And he
got a card reading and in there said you're gonna
be married quick soon, and he's like, how could that be?
There's there's nobody in my life. So then I don't know,
let's say, months later, not long after that, this young
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woman went in who was fifteen years old. Name was Michelle,
and funny enough, went to the same card reader. Didn't
know each other. Card reader said, oh, your husband was
just here. That's awesome. Right they got married. He was nineteen,
she was fifteen. This was not in the forties, I
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mean like our generation, sister, um. But it's like that
to me feels like no matter what, they were bound tied.
There was no getting out of that, right, Like how
it's it's just the third party telling you, oh, by
the way, I just met your husband a few months ago.
They had not met. Yeah, that's so great. That's so great,
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isn't that planning? And definitely prety life planning? Um. And
in that situation. When you said that, the first thing
I thought that, you know, the first thing that I
saw was that they were probably separated very early in
previous lifetimes. So they're like, we have to start early
in this lifetime. Oh wow, yeah, you you owe me
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a couple of a couple of decades. Here, let's do that.
Wow that makes that that again when you say something,
it makes sense. Yeah, that makes so much sense. I
can't can I tell him? I'll I mean, he could listen,
but I'll tell he'll he'll know who he is, but
I'll tell him that because that's actually really interesting that
they were separated young. And so they're like, okay, we're
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not going to mess around. There's no at least at
least three lifetimes that happened for them at three at
least three they agreed to do that. And they're like, no, no, no, no,
we now we want to be together. We were in
the right to be together, because that's sweet. Yeah, we
both got to be strong on our own in different
ways under different challenges and circumstances. But now we get
to just have this recovery lifetime. Oh I love that. Okay,
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I'll pass that along. Um so there and there must
be other like, Okay, I have a you know, now
I have to go to the ridiculous. Do we because
you can't help myself. Do we pre life plan with
um with our animals? Oh I don't know about that.
Yeah I would, I would imagine so, because yeah, I
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would think so. I just asked and they said, yes, Okay,
I love when you do that. I saw your eyes
like kind of roll off to the side, and I
pretty much know when that happens. It's like, Okay, there
she goes, she's doing old poulter Geist thing rolling around
and then she's gonna come back with an answer. The
comedy of the season, you know, Pulter Guys, the comedy
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that is actually one of my favorite things. We have
so many favorite things between us, pop Tarts, all time
favorite Pulter Guys. The comedy is like a really close
number two that was hilarious. Um, okay, so nothing insiders
jokes there, no, But I don't think I can do
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that all day. So what other like, how about this
is a little bit of its written kind of questions
because I feel like there are aspects we end the
pre life planning that are written. No matter how much
you try to avoid it, you end up there anyway.
I know that all because free will exist. We get.
We get because I did some nerdy el ship and
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started reading, and you know how I am. I I
just want to act like I know a little bit
about where she's talking about UM, and what I kind
of got from it was that there's these big like
UM milestones or pillars or if you want to call them,
that that we are meant to achieve and if you
keep avoiding it or if you're not interacting, that it
will find you kind of thing. But it's not everything, obviously,
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because the whole idea is to be put in situations
and then you decide how you handle it. You want
to be an asshole? Do you want to be graceful?
And both are okay because you learn right exactly there's
there's no judgment from the soul level. And remember the
soul level is the one that contracts, that creates these contracts,
these soul contracts, but the personality is the one that
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has to execute the contract. But as you said, the
personality still has free will, and and so there's UM
because the personality is not a bot, like it isn't
just you just said bo I'm so, I'm so proud
of you. I'm not gonna ask you if you know
what one is because I'm gonna leave it where it is.
I'm just keep doing it right now, keep going. It's
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not a lot. So you know, we have our own
free will and there are many things that we're not
going to avoid because it is. It is contracted, right,
So it's kind of like, you know, what, what are
the things abo? How we do it is after the personality,
How how we let it in, how it gets experienced,
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how it gets expressed. That's the personality. What what is
not up to the personality, that's up to the soul, right,
that's what So, yes, I uh, the internet agrees with you, um,
and you roll your eyes talking together side, I get
on my phone and I google UM same day, right,
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we all we all pray to We pray to UM.
So I don't ask where this ship comes from. You
know that, right, UM? It must be my joy. But
by the way, when you were talking in the very
beginning of it, I don't know if you notice, but
I had actually closed my eyes because Jacob came behind
me and wrapped his wings around me. When you were
talking about the pre life. You you're with your guides.
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I think he was like getting a little acknowledgement of
that at the time, but it was very sweet. It
made me almost a little terarious. I was that you
were talking um. But what I one of the analogies
that I read is that which is very strange from
like a psychic spiritual standpoint. But they were using like
a military plan as an example. They're like, you know,
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you plan in advance, and and they said, but you know,
and even there was like some great general or something
had made a comment about, um, you know, but the
plan ends when you are in combat. Yeah, well, no
plan survives the first moment of contact with the enemy exactly.
That's exactly right. Thank you. Look at you getting it
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all right again, look at me getting you there. I'm
like that in basketball, I would be the one assisting.
I'd be like throwing you the ball if you could
make the score the point. Um. And I thought that
was a really great analogy. It's like, it's right because
even the best late plans. Like my favorite thing when
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I was, you know, in either being interviewed or interviewing
for jobs, and I had somebody asked this this a
long time ago, so we really want to be in
five years and I earnestly set alive. Yeah here, I mean,
I have no idea, like because I'm telling you life,
my life, and I'm sure everybody could say this about
their lives. Absolutely nothing has gone to any plan that
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I thought I might have set, so I stopped setting them.
It's like, why bother because it's just a waste of
energy and time. I'd really gonna swim nothing when according
to plan. Oh my god, oh my god, Oh my god.
So funny because I just had a conversation today with
someone who we were talking about careers, specifically working as
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a couch in a career, and I said, you know,
it's so funny because back in the day when I
worked at the Procter and Gaml company, we and I
was a new manager there, and I was in this
high level leadership meeting. I really had no business being there.
I don't know why they invited me. It was executives
that was not at that level. I think they felt
sorry for me because I didn't know anybody let me in,
but they did. They did this envisioning thing about you know,
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your career in which you want to contribute to blah
blah blah blah. And of course I was not deeply
rooted in the PE way, so I went my WOU
way and I was like, and I wrote this whole
thing about I want to get up every day and
I want to help people, and sometimes I go to
them and sometimes they come to me, and we'll look
through the head and the heart and the body, and
you know, like I wove it all together. I'm like,
that's what I do today. Okay, well, your plan work.
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It was very broad and you know, very high level.
I was not specific in this way, and they had
nothing to do with But of course, of course, why
don't we take another way? Wait, wait, quick break, because
that is my job in this episode. Okay, okay, yes,
and then we will be right back everybody, and we
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are back to pre life planning. It comes to many forms.
So I wanted to just share a story about, you know,
back in the day again, I had just lended in
Cincinnati with PNG and somehow there was this sweet woman
I don't remember her name, but she had fibro mantalgia
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and you know, so this was over twenty years ago,
and um so she her body was a challenge for her.
But she was very spiritual and you know, hopeful and positive.
And she came to me and said, I understand you
do these readings? Would could I could I do that
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with you because I'm and she started weeping. I don't
understand why God's mad at me. And I was like, oh, sweetie, absolutely,
let's get on this. And you know, and it came
through so beautifully in the in the reading, how advanced
her spirit was, and that she needed a challenge that
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would really push her in this way, that would make
you know that she would have to stretch to find
her connection with the Divine. That's so easy for her
to remember the divine essence in all of us and
in life, because again she's such an individual who's filled
with grace, but in the face of physical right, it
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completely brings her so focused, so prioritized on the physical.
And how the other challenge in this life was that
she had to prioritize self care and not just serving others,
serving others, serving others, And so this was her plan,
and so it was her co creating with the Divine
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to amplify her experience of true and deep love. And
she just she just was, she just wept with gratitude,
and like everything about her physically just lightened. When I'd
see her in the hallways at work, she just she
was just a lighter person when she looked at it
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differently instead of like why is God punishing me? And
we can look at every moment of our lives of
being challenged, and you know that dark knight of the
soul and that filled with self doubt and and raging
at the divine. Right, it happens all the time. It
happens every day, millions and millions of times where we
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think we are separated from the divine instead of no,
we co created this, We had the support because I
get to dive deep and find my grace. Right, So
you're you're effectively talking about reframing at this level, reframing
at the soul levels, like when you are in that
because the dealing with that type of affliction, you're in
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pain regularly for those that don't know about it, like
and your body doesn't work, like it does not work,
it constant pain to not working in pain. Because I've
known a number of folks that have women specifically that
I've struggled with that um and it is can be
debilitating and to be debilitating and to lead a life,
especially in Earth school, to learn and assent is a
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hell of a challenge. And she signed up for it
and she I know, she's crushing it, right. I love that.
And and the other one that I think is really
common is addiction. Now, while one addiction often leads to
a second and a third. And you know sometimes some
situtes sometimes trading off, sometimes trading up, training down, whatever.
But typically there is uma, like a commitment to a
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very specific condition, and then you have to pick and
activate those life environments that will land you with the
addiction that you have contracted for, whether it's alcoholism or haroin. Interesting. Really, yeah,
it's interesting to see it when it gets laid out
in front of me, you know in a session. Oh
that's fascinating. Yeah, Like even with the oxy cotton because that,
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by the way, oxy um. If anybody hasn't seen Dope Sick,
it's worth watching um if you are interested, if you
are know someone loves someone with that type of addiction.
It is a really powerful it is taking us through.
It's about the Sackler family, the ones with the pharma
company that actually invented um oxy cotton and then lied
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and manipulating everything to get on the market to be
easily prescribed. But the thing that I understand about oxy is, um,
you physically crave it and your body starts to shut
down if you don't have it. Like it this yeah,
this one, this one is different because it happens so fast.
It happened fast. It's very severe. But yes, I mean
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it's very quick that it happens to people. And it
doesn't you know, it doesn't matter if it's sugar, fee, alcohol, whatever,
like it's the body gets used to it, like okay
that I need to nicotine nicotine, so all of it. Yes,
but but again these are things. All those things rob
us of bringing our full gifts to the planet, right,
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and so to to be able to overcome that, well,
elevate your soul's ability to express. Can I give an
example of that because I used to be I'm an
ex smoker and I need this podcast a long time.
But um, I started later, like most people who smoke start,
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like in their teens because they're stealing at other parents handbags.
I started later. Um, I was in college because I
wanted to lose weight. So there you go. Ok Um,
So training addictions, um, and uh but I and I
wasn't a smoker for long, like relatively speaking, but I
remember in my twenties when, um, I didn't want to
go out to places that didn't allow smoking for very long.
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Like I like, it is such a it's like having
a parachute that keeps pulling you back from life because
you start avoiding places, avoiding people, avoiding situations. So I'm
just using it as an example because that was me
and I saw it. Yeah. The other thing about smoke,
smoking specifically is that it literally veils you from other people, right,
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It literally takes like it gets in front of your face,
even the scent. Like people will kind of recoil from
this because you know when someone smokes, it gets in
their clothing, in their hair. You know they tell me
about it, right, and so like it's it literally distances
you in this way. So I think that's and weirdly
worked for me for that time. Yeah, of course, I
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mean it's like, oh yeah, that actually kind of worked.
That worked out for a while. Um, But so that
is I think, like that's some of those things that
can happen, Like you know, we talked about addictions that
we can talk about the extreme something extreme like an
oxy but also when smoking, you know, not as calm
and luckily um, but still is in the behaviors, you know,
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the behaviors that go into that, like you don't want
to go to places see certain people who don't who
would disapprove of it. I remember that, um, and that's
a shitty way to live, for the record, And you know,
just this component of really, um, how we judge others
And it was so easy, right, it's so easy to
judge others. And you know, we do it for sport.
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We do it because we're scared. We do it because
you know, we're going for a giggle whatever it is.
But if we really understood life planning and you know,
our exes are you know, enemies, are friends whatever, like
we would we wouldn't do any of that. We just
be like, got it, that was your plan. That's no
good right or right, and just be curious about it, like, oh,
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I'm really curious how you chose that, and I hope
you've got what you needed out of it, and be
done with it, like you don't have to spin on it,
you don't. I think that's a really important thing is
because it's so much easier to see other people. You know,
I was that was a crappy plan. How that's funny, right, Yeah,
But then let's look in the mirror for a moment.
And I think part of looking in that soul mirror is, um,
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I think, as we are in our bodies on this planet,
I think what is really helpful, at least it's been
for me, is I can see lessons coming now. You
know I didn't. I wasn't always able to see that,
but I can see them coming now because I've learned
to be incredibly present in my life, so I can
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see things clear as a result of that. But I'm
telling you I spent a big chunk of my life
because I think I said in an earlier episode, I'm
somehow to said late Bloomberg decided to like adopt all
this ship in my fifties. But um, there's no judgment,
no judgment. It's just kind of funny. I just because
you know, I like to make everything funny. I possibly can,
um and just for entertainment purposes. And but I will
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tell you what I've learned is that once a lesson
comes on, it is kind of like it kind of
taps you a little bit, like, hey, this something for you,
and either you can ignore it or I have found
there are wrong answers to handling lessons, um, because there
there is right and wrong in some ways, because you're
actually not getting the lesson if you keep doing the
same stupid thing over and over. And I've done the
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same stupid thing over and over on a lot of
different occasions. And I know what about it, of course
we all have. But here's the thing. It gets. It
gets exponentially harder, right, does not say that I meant
to say that word you just said harder? Um. And
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and if if, if you call it like if it's
a if the dials on one the first time, the
dog can go to five the next time, it is
not the same increments. Um. So paying attention can actually
help you get through your lessons with a lot more
grace and not as much difficulty. You know, it doesn't know.
It's the first thing you said when you met me.
And I think it's like for so many it's like,
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it doesn't have to be this hard. And I know
you're talking about mom, think you were talking about my life,
but it doesn't have to feed this heart. Oh my god,
that's just gone on me. And here's the thing whom
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it actually brand. Put your hand on you know, a
million out of a million and one people and say
the same thing, and it would be true. It doesn't
have to be this heart and and you know one
out of a million would hear it, right, right, right? Yeah, right?
So I think what's important, like I hope people will
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be curious about pre life planning, and like I wonder
how I got here and not spin out about I
have to get it right, Like it's not about that
as much as being curious, like if there was another
meaning to this, what would it be? What might it be?
Because the truth is you're not going to find out
until you jump to the genth of planet. Until you
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reunite with all those with all your cast members, you know,
you can to thank them and you understand your life
plan and rap party, yeah, the movie rap party, right,
that's all. That's the wrap party baby. Until then, just
go with an open heart. You know, Yes you can
ask a meditation, Yes you can ask a medium, blah
blah blah, but it's also just more practical to remain
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curious and compassionate with yourself and others, Like I'm doing
my best. I wonder if I'm I wonder if I'm
really paying attention. Let me take a look again at
my at my day? How am I doing? What's popping up?
Over and over? What? What am I missing? Them? Might
be a thread here for me to talking about it
with those that you deep trustworthy in your tribe can
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be really helpful because I literally had a conversation I
just it's when you brought this whole thing up, I'm like, oh,
this is so good. I had this conversation just yesterday
with another friend that was talking about his wife who
just wants to like pull the rip chord and be
an absolute monster to a particular teacher. Why I I
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don't We don't need details because it's happening all over
the country. And but the thing is, um, you know,
because I had brought up and I said, well, she
could do that, that's always an option, but does she
want to actually destroy somebody's life over something that actually
seems kind of petty compared to someone's life in their
livelihood and all of these things, and someone who dedicated
their life to actually teaching children might not like how
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they do it, but you need to go destroy them?
And he said, you know, I told her the same thing,
he goes, do you really want to do that? Do
you know, like play things out? Because this is where
when we get super emotional, we don't have the ability
to play things out about those desires in the moment
we think we want, which are typically retaliatory, and and
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we make a bunch of stupid moves. Well, and I
think that you know in that situation. Look, we all
we all get enraged at something, right, but and and
sometimes it's fun just a vent to a friend, like
that's one thing. But to ask yourself to what end?
To what end is exactly right? To what end? Like
how how do I want that? You know, because otherwise
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you're gonna you're gonna meet that person again. Yeah, I
know the spirit. Well, you're gonna have to apologize. Much
easier to apologize now and go, you know what, I
was kind of rude to you earlier. I was a
little rubbed up. Or not do it? That's the other thing, like,
especially some of you don't know premeditate all that kind
of stuff. There's a couple of rules that along this
time of my life I've established. One is I really
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don't want to blow anybody up. I don't I I
don't want to have any harm. You know, we've talked
so much about highest school to all, harm to none.
That is very real to me, That is in my bones.
That is very, very very real to me. And I
think through those things because it is so much a
part of you know, who I am, um, and I
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think through things. The other thing is very It's the
one we've talked about before we had our guns conversation,
is I have no interest in taking anyone's life, even
if they're after mine. I still have no interest in
doing that. And this is these are my choices, right,
not no nobody else, no judge. But you can do
what you can. Go kill a hundred. I don't care.
It's up to you. It's it's like it's your you
gotta pay for it, not me. Everything has a price, people,
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but these are things. These are prices I don't want
to pay. I don't want to do that. I don't
want to be that person that blows people because I can.
We all know I can blow people up like a motherfucker.
And that aren't because you're so strong willed about it,
You've already done that in a lifetime. Because let's say,
you have to realize we've all done it all. We've
all been the sovereigns. We've all been the prostitutes, we've
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all been the pimps, we've all been the victims. We've
all been the perpetrators. Like right, all my agreement. We've
all been maditor, we've all been CEOs, men, we've been women,
we've been in the middle. Right, We've ended our lives
by suicide. Right, we've ended other lives by murder, like
we've we've done at all. It's it's on the human menu,
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and it's done with mutual agreement. Most of the time,
there are things that do happen in unplanned ways. So
I want to be clear about pre life planning. That
doesn't mean that your contract won't be renegotiated in the
moment because of something someone else did or missed or
you know whatever. Gets an example of that. We're going
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to drag this episode out. This is a good and
keep going. Give an example of something that's unplanned that
that things change in the um. You know, things can
happen in a in an instant in uh, something can malfunction,
like an equipment can malfunction. Um, and you know, because
that just happened like a car with a car, right, so, um,
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someone's life it can end in an unplanned way or
in the birthing process if some somebody missed something and
now you you know, your left leg doesn't work or
something like that like that, and then when when that
does happen, boom, there has to be a reconvening of
your your squad, your life strategy squad that says, Okay,
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so what else do you want to sign up for?
Because what we planned isn't available to you? Now, um,
what else do you want to sign up for? Like?
So it happens instantly? So so sh it happens. Yeah,
you know what you're saying. Yeah, every once in a
while and it's like, you know, point nine or something. Oh,
I like how you put statistics. Find that's impressive. I
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can't really tell if it was point nine or nine,
but I don't think it was point nine. Is that
what they're telling you? Your eyes didn't roll? That I
just closed him because I couldn't see. That's hilarious thing. Okay.
I have absolutely utterly enjoyed this. I hope everybody else
has as much as we have, because this was enlightening
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and fun and it also you know, really gives us
things to think about and like you said, be curious
about because being curiosity is a beautiful thing, so filled
with grace, it really is. And like people like curiosity
killed the cat, I'm like, we all quit killing and
skinning cats because it's all I hear our reverence. Leave
the cats alone. Let's just be curious and it can
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be okay and open hearted. Stay open hearted, because stay
open hearted. Remember our school is hard without love and
the other side of the other side. How about that, boy?
Thank you, everybody, Thank you, I love you back by y'all.
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Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now,
y'all need to know that we are obsessed with everything
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learn to navigate the energetic, or to some the invisible world,
life is going to be more fun and much more serene. Heck,
yes it can, because let's be honest, Brian, earth school
is hard. In fact, you taught me that let's crush
Earth School together. Well, hello, my witchy woo, I met
(00:46):
another cava food Oh, caba fool you. Yeah, I know.
My brother's dogs are exquisite. Little Lulu he is like
the leader of my kabapoo pack. She's so sweet. Gaba
foods are so sweet. But what's the new capapoo's name?
Her name is Willow. Willow, Yeah, she doesn't like that name.
(01:06):
I have to say. Yeah, Well, I'll let her her
guardian know. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, she's a new
one to the world, and they're all figuring each other,
sniffing each other's butts. They'll figure everything out, you know.
You ask how are you my elf? And how are
you my elf? Sorry? We have we got cavapoo to
st well, I want to tell you because we start
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did the countdown to start, you know, to our recording,
and I had the ear ringing. I'm like, oh, somebody's
trying to get through like some it was like I
mean literally it was three too. Was like going on MYNT.
I'm like, it's gonna be a good episode. Okay, let's
do it. Let's do it well today. I love this,
(01:49):
this is I love that you suggested this. I think
it is such great episode. First we know that I
don't tos do, but this one they gave me. And
then like this is it's time we need to talk
about this. And I actually think why is because the nodes,
the moon nodes are really being activated, particularly in this quarter,
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but particularly highly this year, but particularly this quarter with
the eclipses that we were going through. So I think
that's why and what we'll talk more about that. But
that's really interesting though, because we have an eclipse I'm
able to see here on Sunday. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
we are recording this um yeah on whatever data. Yes, yeah,
(02:35):
there's a linear full linear eclipse coming up and um.
And the thing about that is that, UM, so when
the north node gets activated, that is an invitation of
a grander invitation. First of all, our whole birth chard
is the invitation to activate our commitment to our life plan.
But the north node says, let go of what's familiar
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and go to your growth spot. So where your north
note is in your chart is where you want to
focus on activating, developing, learning, stretching yourself, getting out of
your comfort zone. All those things we hate because it
makes its very vulnerable and it's secure and it's scary
and I'm comfortable. Okay, So let's roll this back a second.
So the we're calling pre life planning, and you know
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a lot of people do planning, by the way, for
their end of life. You know, people plan for wills
or how to be treated the hospital and reseuch, right,
do I want to be buried, burned, whatever effets? They
just had that conversation before we got on the phone,
which is very strange. UM. It was with Pubby. Of
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course we talked about everything so and ad to we've
ad to weave into every episode. So you know, Kep,
now we're talking about it. But so we do really,
you know, most of us do a pretty good job
on that, you know, planning for the end of life.
People do terrible jobs in this country because we don't
really we don't really talk about that that much. Know,
we're really bad about it for sure, but even though
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people need to know it exists. So let's just like
take that and then we go to the pre life planning,
talk about not understanding it, and you talk about different
cultures will dive into that too, but this is the
pre life planning We've talked over the years on this
show and on our you know, special pre prep calls
how to which are really fun. We should record those
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um um of of the of the different lessons, like
you know, how this works, like there is you know,
all the things that that as spirits we miss as
humans and our lessons and that's why you know it's
our school is hard without the other side. And so
I'm just gonna flat out and ask you why is
our school so hard? Our school is so hard because
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between the pre life planning and the Earth School arrival,
the angels blow into our face and blast us with
love and blow out any recollection that we agreed to.
This that's why it's so hard. Okay, So then I
have a question about that, um you and I love
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how you say that, because you do it so beautifully
and eloquently of course, and I'm sure i'll cuss in
my um. So when we talk about the angels blowing
in our faces and the da da da, the love
and the you know, memory wipe, um, do they miss
a spot with some people that actually come in with
a lot of knowledge. Well, and and my experience, and
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you know, I'm curious as yours as well, but my
experiences people tend to remember past lives more than they
remember pre life planning. Those are two, Those are two
different things. Very good distinction. Thank you. Yes that makes
sense because you know, one of my friends, Cathy Bird,
wrote the book The Boy who Knew Too Much right,
and her son right, um, and so obviously her son yeah,
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oh that yeah, her son at a very young age, um,
before you can even talk, he was pointing, um, the
Mets guy with the Luke Garrick. Yeah, and he was
like pointing or and doing all this stuff and like
he like he was Luke Garrig. He was right. And
so I asked for that reason, and then of course,
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by the way, I mean, jeez, what they have gone
through in their life as a result of this whole thing.
And he was an exceptional baseball player too, And I
actually hit like Luke Garrig, like that's really crazy stuff.
And she went in and ended up meeting some of
Luke Garrig's descendants, um, and recognizing things at their old house.
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This is and this is mine exactly that was. It's
not like, oh that was mine, went back in the day.
He's like, no, that's mine, give it to me, it's mine. Correct.
And then even um, the other baseball player that he
had a rivalry with. I don't remember who it is,
but somebody this is this is girl talks, so we
don't not important was boards to us, but you know
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he pointed at whoever it was and said, mommy, he
was mean to me. And they kid have no idea
the history of those two like no ideas. So anyway,
that's why I was asking, like, oh, well, maybe they missed.
But your point is that there are two different things
so differently. Go back to the free life planning, and
to tell us more so in pre life there there
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there they interact with each other, but they're two different things.
So in free life planning, you meet with your spirit
guides and you know in the in the strategic meeting
of what you're going to accept as far as challenges
and what you're going to accept as far as gifts
to have a successful life. Successful not in the terms
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of Earth School that we think of a success as
you know, bringing your gifts, being rewarded, being acknowledged, being happy,
being healthy, contributing, blah blah blah. That's all Earth School standards.
That doesn't have anything to do with that strategic conversation
pre life, which is all ab out it's because it's
conducted at a soul level, not at a personality level.
And it's like, where are you going to expand Let's
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take a look at your trajectory or if you want
to put it in Earth school terms, like what other
roles have you played and contributed to humanity that we
are now going to expand upon? And and so so
many times when we are in our soul state, we
are brave and feeling the support and the you know,
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non duality experience of the spirit world. So we sign
up for big challenges knowing that we are not disconnected
ever from the other side from our our expanded soul state.
But when we come to earth school we forget it instantly.
Was that like a case of your eyes are bigger
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than your stomach, Like this is delicious at all? And
then you get back you're like eight tin By It's
like I'm full, well, I'm done, I'm over, and I
didn't really like any of that. You can feel like
you can feel a little bit like that. But remember,
in those pre life planning sessions, you're always looking to,
of course karmically balance your previous lives as well. So
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if you're someone who was not compassionate, you like, I
really want to understand compassion. And what's amazing in those
pre life sessions is it's really in the best way
self focused. We've talked before in this space that how
there are no victims and there, yes there's wrongdoing, but
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there are no victims. We've signed up for this somehow before,
even though it seems completely unfair on justin fathomable, like
how come TI, I'm stupid? Like wait, I signed up
for what? Yeah, shooting me? I did what? Like next
time somebody to have you on the shelves. I don't
do that, that's all. But you agreed to it, right
and definitely and so this is so it's really about
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these you know, because we think of it as a
retribution um or punish me and sometimes and um when
because when we get to your school, like why did
this happen to me? What did I do wrong? And
it's never about that. It's literally you signed up for
this challenge and you literally are expanding the love that's
available in the universe by healing this, by overcoming these
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challenges with grace, with you know, dignity of your own
self love. Like a lot of times that's one of
the challenges, like you have to forgive yourself, you have
to accept what you did and and but with love
and compassion not judgment. So I love that so many
times in those strategic sessions, like it's really a deep
dive for self of accountability and responsibility for where you're
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committed to growth. And then you have to you know,
cast your your life on earth school. So then you
bring in these souls that you've interacted with before, remembering
that we reincarnate in family sessions and um and family
groups right or tribal groups. How every want and think
about that until you're like, go and you'll say, hey,
I need this experience where you you know, you'd be
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mean to me in the session, and they'll be like, no,
I can't do that. Please, I really need this and
I trust you to do it. Okay, I'll do it,
but we got but we uh you know, we can
only do it for a short time because I really
that's going to hurt a lot. And the truth is,
you know, when we're in our school, we don't remember
that part. We just but when we can do this side,
we're like, oh my god, you did such a good
tap your culture you on that note, I'm going to
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take us to a break. Oh my gosh, I know,
which is weird, right, I know. I want to come
back though, because I think what would be really great
is to share, like, what are some examples of pre
life planning, Like let's like get into the weeds of
it so people can understand what are some of the things.
It might not be yours in particular you listeners, but
to understand what some of them are, and then we'll
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talk about how can we can start to identify those
and know that hey, I this is something I need
to be paying attention to and and trying to solve
for right? Is that fair? So we'll take a break
and we'll be right back everybody. And we're back everybody
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pre life planning, and let's talk about what some of
these like when we're you know, we're when we're in
spirit form. What are some of the specific lessons things
that we want to learn? And I'm saying it generally right,
this is just if so people can be curious and
think about their own life through this kind of filter.
What are some of the things that we that we
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plan for? Well, um, so some of the things we
plan for our If I was in a position where
I abdicated my power in a previous life, Um, my
personal power, I got pushed around a lot and I
didn't do anything. I would want to sign up for
a lifetime where I was challenged and I stood up
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for my personal integrity and empowerment. So that would be
something I would sign up for. Oh, that's a good one.
So let me ask a few questions then, because you
know I always come up with sometimes good questions, sometimes ridiculous.
So you can ask me an origin story for that.
Maybe maybe what would iron Man do? Um, so I
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should have bracelets? What would iron Man do? Uh, okay. So,
for instance, if you in another life, and does it
even have to be if I'm not mistaken the last life,
it could be accumulation, right. So like if you were,
I'm gonna say, um a jerk, right, Like the example
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you gave was something more inside yourself type of right.
And so the way that you treated others. Right. So
we've talked so much about um, when it's time for
us to jump to one of the first things that
happens as we go through a life review and you're
in the position of the other person to feel what
they felt based on your actions, words, thoughts, whatever it
may be. So let's talk about how we can how
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we interact as our group. What are some of the
things that we would come back for those types of lessons? So,
and and the thing about that some way in the
life review you're like, Oh, you're learning, you're integrating, and
you're understanding more of earth school with a different, completely
broader lens, right, and in a way that we don't
operate normally at our school and not not ever, but
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oftentimes we don't operate with that big perspective. Oh, how
is this going to impact someone in every single exchange?
Right in every single exchange, because that's that's what happens
in the life review. And then you would go, Okay,
what did I learn about that? And when I look
at my other lifetimes and all all my lessons from
my other lifetimes, what's still missing? How did I not
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bring the essence of my soul and my gifts and
all that I've learned over lifetimes. How did I bring
that to the planet, Because those are the gaps we
want to address in our life planning for our next incarnation, right,
So where not and again that's in astrology. Spe that's
where we're turning from the south node things we've done
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before to the north node. This is and these are
now the opportunities I want to bring forward like that, Yeah,
and so and remember for for a soul, you know,
ultimately in all of these many incarnations and you know,
bites at the apple of of bringing a gifts forward
where we want to absolutely build on the gifts we have,
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but continue to grow. And so we accept challenges. And
the challenges can take many forms from you know, coming
in with differently able to body, a different neurow, neurow
atypical um too, addictions to raising uh a child that's different,
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right somehow, whether it's a physical or neuro um different functioning,
and you know in these aspects, so I that is
um that See here's the thing. When you say it,
it all makes sense. I know, it makes right, It
makes so much like oh my goss. Of course, I'm
not being punished. I'm just being taught to learn a
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new lesson and and and try to do it with
as much grace. Right. So I have another question, because
this one has absolutely fascinated me because I know somebody
that this happened to um and this is about meeting
up again with our people, right um there, Because you
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remember you cast your life from from all your like
the movie. It's like casting directors. Yes, we are casting
directors in that pre life planning and you're negotiating contracts.
Will you do this for me? Nope, that's too hard.
I don't love you that much, right or I love
you so much? Of course I will. I will come
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up and just be, you know, be be that child
that you have to push around in a wheelchair and
continue to find that compassion and that strength every day,
like whatever it is that they're standing up for. Right.
So this friend of mine when he was nineteen, he
went to New Orleans and with a bunch of buddies
went into one of the you know voodoo shops right
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as his car as one does. I mean, you can't
avoid him, and it's super fun um uh. And he
got a card reading and in there said you're gonna
be married quick soon, and he's like, how could that be?
There's there's nobody in my life. So then I don't know,
let's say, months later, not long after that, this young
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woman went in who was fifteen years old. Name was Michelle,
and funny enough, went to the same card reader. Didn't
know each other. Card reader said, oh, your husband was
just here. That's awesome. Right they got married. He was nineteen,
she was fifteen. This was not in the forties, I
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mean like our generation, sister, um. But it's like that
to me feels like no matter what, they were bound tied.
There was no getting out of that, right, Like how
it's it's just the third party telling you, oh, by
the way, I just met your husband a few months ago.
They had not met. Yeah, that's so great. That's so great,
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isn't that planning? And definitely prety life planning? Um. And
in that situation. When you said that, the first thing
I thought that, you know, the first thing that I
saw was that they were probably separated very early in
previous lifetimes. So they're like, we have to start early
in this lifetime. Oh wow, yeah, you you owe me
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a couple of a couple of decades. Here, let's do that.
Wow that makes that that again when you say something,
it makes sense. Yeah, that makes so much sense. I
can't can I tell him? I'll I mean, he could listen,
but I'll tell he'll he'll know who he is, but
I'll tell him that because that's actually really interesting that
they were separated young. And so they're like, okay, we're
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not going to mess around. There's no at least at
least three lifetimes that happened for them at three at
least three they agreed to do that. And they're like, no, no, no, no,
we now we want to be together. We were in
the right to be together, because that's sweet. Yeah, we
both got to be strong on our own in different
ways under different challenges and circumstances. But now we get
to just have this recovery lifetime. Oh I love that. Okay,
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I'll pass that along. Um so there and there must
be other like, Okay, I have a you know, now
I have to go to the ridiculous. Do we because
you can't help myself. Do we pre life plan with
um with our animals? Oh I don't know about that.
Yeah I would, I would imagine so, because yeah, I
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would think so. I just asked and they said, yes, Okay,
I love when you do that. I saw your eyes
like kind of roll off to the side, and I
pretty much know when that happens. It's like, Okay, there
she goes, she's doing old poulter Geist thing rolling around
and then she's gonna come back with an answer. The
comedy of the season, you know, Pulter Guys, the comedy
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that is actually one of my favorite things. We have
so many favorite things between us, pop Tarts, all time
favorite Pulter Guys. The comedy is like a really close
number two that was hilarious. Um, okay, so nothing insiders
jokes there, no, But I don't think I can do
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that all day. So what other like, how about this
is a little bit of its written kind of questions
because I feel like there are aspects we end the
pre life planning that are written. No matter how much
you try to avoid it, you end up there anyway.
I know that all because free will exist. We get.
We get because I did some nerdy el ship and
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started reading, and you know how I am. I I
just want to act like I know a little bit
about where she's talking about UM, and what I kind
of got from it was that there's these big like
UM milestones or pillars or if you want to call them,
that that we are meant to achieve and if you
keep avoiding it or if you're not interacting, that it
will find you kind of thing. But it's not everything, obviously,
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because the whole idea is to be put in situations
and then you decide how you handle it. You want
to be an asshole? Do you want to be graceful?
And both are okay because you learn right exactly there's
there's no judgment from the soul level. And remember the
soul level is the one that contracts, that creates these contracts,
these soul contracts, but the personality is the one that
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has to execute the contract. But as you said, the
personality still has free will, and and so there's UM
because the personality is not a bot, like it isn't
just you just said bo I'm so, I'm so proud
of you. I'm not gonna ask you if you know
what one is because I'm gonna leave it where it is.
I'm just keep doing it right now, keep going. It's
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not a lot. So you know, we have our own
free will and there are many things that we're not
going to avoid because it is. It is contracted, right,
So it's kind of like, you know, what, what are
the things abo? How we do it is after the personality,
How how we let it in, how it gets experienced,
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how it gets expressed. That's the personality. What what is
not up to the personality, that's up to the soul, right,
that's what So, yes, I uh, the internet agrees with you, um,
and you roll your eyes talking together side, I get
on my phone and I google UM same day, right,
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we all we all pray to We pray to UM.
So I don't ask where this ship comes from. You
know that, right, UM? It must be my joy. But
by the way, when you were talking in the very
beginning of it, I don't know if you notice, but
I had actually closed my eyes because Jacob came behind
me and wrapped his wings around me. When you were
talking about the pre life. You you're with your guides.
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I think he was like getting a little acknowledgement of
that at the time, but it was very sweet. It
made me almost a little terarious. I was that you
were talking um. But what I one of the analogies
that I read is that which is very strange from
like a psychic spiritual standpoint. But they were using like
a military plan as an example. They're like, you know,
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you plan in advance, and and they said, but you know,
and even there was like some great general or something
had made a comment about, um, you know, but the
plan ends when you are in combat. Yeah, well, no
plan survives the first moment of contact with the enemy exactly.
That's exactly right. Thank you. Look at you getting it
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all right again, look at me getting you there. I'm
like that in basketball, I would be the one assisting.
I'd be like throwing you the ball if you could
make the score the point. Um. And I thought that
was a really great analogy. It's like, it's right because
even the best late plans. Like my favorite thing when
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I was, you know, in either being interviewed or interviewing
for jobs, and I had somebody asked this this a
long time ago, so we really want to be in
five years and I earnestly set alive. Yeah here, I mean,
I have no idea, like because I'm telling you life,
my life, and I'm sure everybody could say this about
their lives. Absolutely nothing has gone to any plan that
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I thought I might have set, so I stopped setting them.
It's like, why bother because it's just a waste of
energy and time. I'd really gonna swim nothing when according
to plan. Oh my god, oh my god, Oh my god.
So funny because I just had a conversation today with
someone who we were talking about careers, specifically working as
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a couch in a career, and I said, you know,
it's so funny because back in the day when I
worked at the Procter and Gaml company, we and I
was a new manager there, and I was in this
high level leadership meeting. I really had no business being there.
I don't know why they invited me. It was executives
that was not at that level. I think they felt
sorry for me because I didn't know anybody let me in,
but they did. They did this envisioning thing about you know,
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your career in which you want to contribute to blah
blah blah blah. And of course I was not deeply
rooted in the PE way, so I went my WOU
way and I was like, and I wrote this whole
thing about I want to get up every day and
I want to help people, and sometimes I go to
them and sometimes they come to me, and we'll look
through the head and the heart and the body, and
you know, like I wove it all together. I'm like,
that's what I do today. Okay, well, your plan work.
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It was very broad and you know, very high level.
I was not specific in this way, and they had
nothing to do with But of course, of course, why
don't we take another way? Wait, wait, quick break, because
that is my job in this episode. Okay, okay, yes,
and then we will be right back everybody, and we
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are back to pre life planning. It comes to many forms.
So I wanted to just share a story about, you know,
back in the day again, I had just lended in
Cincinnati with PNG and somehow there was this sweet woman
I don't remember her name, but she had fibro mantalgia
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and you know, so this was over twenty years ago,
and um so she her body was a challenge for her.
But she was very spiritual and you know, hopeful and positive.
And she came to me and said, I understand you
do these readings? Would could I could I do that
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with you because I'm and she started weeping. I don't
understand why God's mad at me. And I was like, oh, sweetie, absolutely,
let's get on this. And you know, and it came
through so beautifully in the in the reading, how advanced
her spirit was, and that she needed a challenge that
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would really push her in this way, that would make
you know that she would have to stretch to find
her connection with the Divine. That's so easy for her
to remember the divine essence in all of us and
in life, because again she's such an individual who's filled
with grace, but in the face of physical right, it
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completely brings her so focused, so prioritized on the physical.
And how the other challenge in this life was that
she had to prioritize self care and not just serving others,
serving others, serving others, And so this was her plan,
and so it was her co creating with the Divine
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to amplify her experience of true and deep love. And
she just she just was, she just wept with gratitude,
and like everything about her physically just lightened. When I'd
see her in the hallways at work, she just she
was just a lighter person when she looked at it
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differently instead of like why is God punishing me? And
we can look at every moment of our lives of
being challenged, and you know that dark knight of the
soul and that filled with self doubt and and raging
at the divine. Right, it happens all the time. It
happens every day, millions and millions of times where we
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think we are separated from the divine instead of no,
we co created this, We had the support because I
get to dive deep and find my grace. Right, So
you're you're effectively talking about reframing at this level, reframing
at the soul levels, like when you are in that
because the dealing with that type of affliction, you're in
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pain regularly for those that don't know about it, like
and your body doesn't work, like it does not work,
it constant pain to not working in pain. Because I've
known a number of folks that have women specifically that
I've struggled with that um and it is can be
debilitating and to be debilitating and to lead a life,
especially in Earth school, to learn and assent is a
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hell of a challenge. And she signed up for it
and she I know, she's crushing it, right. I love that.
And and the other one that I think is really
common is addiction. Now, while one addiction often leads to
a second and a third. And you know sometimes some
situtes sometimes trading off, sometimes trading up, training down, whatever.
But typically there is uma, like a commitment to a
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very specific condition, and then you have to pick and
activate those life environments that will land you with the
addiction that you have contracted for, whether it's alcoholism or haroin. Interesting. Really, yeah,
it's interesting to see it when it gets laid out
in front of me, you know in a session. Oh
that's fascinating. Yeah, Like even with the oxy cotton because that,
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by the way, oxy um. If anybody hasn't seen Dope Sick,
it's worth watching um if you are interested, if you
are know someone loves someone with that type of addiction.
It is a really powerful it is taking us through.
It's about the Sackler family, the ones with the pharma
company that actually invented um oxy cotton and then lied
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and manipulating everything to get on the market to be
easily prescribed. But the thing that I understand about oxy is, um,
you physically crave it and your body starts to shut
down if you don't have it. Like it this yeah,
this one, this one is different because it happens so fast.
It happened fast. It's very severe. But yes, I mean
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it's very quick that it happens to people. And it
doesn't you know, it doesn't matter if it's sugar, fee, alcohol, whatever,
like it's the body gets used to it, like okay
that I need to nicotine nicotine, so all of it. Yes,
but but again these are things. All those things rob
us of bringing our full gifts to the planet, right,
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and so to to be able to overcome that, well,
elevate your soul's ability to express. Can I give an
example of that because I used to be I'm an
ex smoker and I need this podcast a long time.
But um, I started later, like most people who smoke start,
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like in their teens because they're stealing at other parents handbags.
I started later. Um, I was in college because I
wanted to lose weight. So there you go. Ok Um,
So training addictions, um, and uh but I and I
wasn't a smoker for long, like relatively speaking, but I
remember in my twenties when, um, I didn't want to
go out to places that didn't allow smoking for very long.
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Like I like, it is such a it's like having
a parachute that keeps pulling you back from life because
you start avoiding places, avoiding people, avoiding situations. So I'm
just using it as an example because that was me
and I saw it. Yeah. The other thing about smoke,
smoking specifically is that it literally veils you from other people, right,
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It literally takes like it gets in front of your face,
even the scent. Like people will kind of recoil from
this because you know when someone smokes, it gets in
their clothing, in their hair. You know they tell me
about it, right, and so like it's it literally distances
you in this way. So I think that's and weirdly
worked for me for that time. Yeah, of course, I
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mean it's like, oh yeah, that actually kind of worked.
That worked out for a while. Um, But so that
is I think, like that's some of those things that
can happen, Like you know, we talked about addictions that
we can talk about the extreme something extreme like an
oxy but also when smoking, you know, not as calm
and luckily um, but still is in the behaviors, you know,
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the behaviors that go into that, like you don't want
to go to places see certain people who don't who
would disapprove of it. I remember that, um, and that's
a shitty way to live, for the record, And you know,
just this component of really, um, how we judge others
And it was so easy, right, it's so easy to
judge others. And you know, we do it for sport.
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We do it because we're scared. We do it because
you know, we're going for a giggle whatever it is.
But if we really understood life planning and you know,
our exes are you know, enemies, are friends whatever, like
we would we wouldn't do any of that. We just
be like, got it, that was your plan. That's no
good right or right, and just be curious about it, like, oh,
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I'm really curious how you chose that, and I hope
you've got what you needed out of it, and be
done with it, like you don't have to spin on it,
you don't. I think that's a really important thing is
because it's so much easier to see other people. You know,
I was that was a crappy plan. How that's funny, right, Yeah,
But then let's look in the mirror for a moment.
And I think part of looking in that soul mirror is, um,
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I think, as we are in our bodies on this planet,
I think what is really helpful, at least it's been
for me, is I can see lessons coming now. You
know I didn't. I wasn't always able to see that,
but I can see them coming now because I've learned
to be incredibly present in my life, so I can
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see things clear as a result of that. But I'm
telling you I spent a big chunk of my life
because I think I said in an earlier episode, I'm
somehow to said late Bloomberg decided to like adopt all
this ship in my fifties. But um, there's no judgment,
no judgment. It's just kind of funny. I just because
you know, I like to make everything funny. I possibly can,
um and just for entertainment purposes. And but I will
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tell you what I've learned is that once a lesson
comes on, it is kind of like it kind of
taps you a little bit, like, hey, this something for you,
and either you can ignore it or I have found
there are wrong answers to handling lessons, um, because there
there is right and wrong in some ways, because you're
actually not getting the lesson if you keep doing the
same stupid thing over and over. And I've done the
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same stupid thing over and over on a lot of
different occasions. And I know what about it, of course
we all have. But here's the thing. It gets. It
gets exponentially harder, right, does not say that I meant
to say that word you just said harder? Um. And
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and if if, if you call it like if it's
a if the dials on one the first time, the
dog can go to five the next time, it is
not the same increments. Um. So paying attention can actually
help you get through your lessons with a lot more
grace and not as much difficulty. You know, it doesn't know.
It's the first thing you said when you met me.
And I think it's like for so many it's like,
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it doesn't have to be this hard. And I know
you're talking about mom, think you were talking about my life,
but it doesn't have to feed this heart. Oh my god,
that's just gone on me. And here's the thing whom
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it actually brand. Put your hand on you know, a
million out of a million and one people and say
the same thing, and it would be true. It doesn't
have to be this heart and and you know one
out of a million would hear it, right, right, right? Yeah, right?
So I think what's important, like I hope people will
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be curious about pre life planning, and like I wonder
how I got here and not spin out about I
have to get it right, Like it's not about that
as much as being curious, like if there was another
meaning to this, what would it be? What might it be?
Because the truth is you're not going to find out
until you jump to the genth of planet. Until you
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reunite with all those with all your cast members, you know,
you can to thank them and you understand your life
plan and rap party, yeah, the movie rap party, right,
that's all. That's the wrap party baby. Until then, just
go with an open heart. You know, Yes you can
ask a meditation, Yes you can ask a medium, blah
blah blah, but it's also just more practical to remain
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curious and compassionate with yourself and others, Like I'm doing
my best. I wonder if I'm I wonder if I'm
really paying attention. Let me take a look again at
my at my day? How am I doing? What's popping up?
Over and over? What? What am I missing? Them? Might
be a thread here for me to talking about it
with those that you deep trustworthy in your tribe can
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be really helpful because I literally had a conversation I
just it's when you brought this whole thing up, I'm like, oh,
this is so good. I had this conversation just yesterday
with another friend that was talking about his wife who
just wants to like pull the rip chord and be
an absolute monster to a particular teacher. Why I I
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don't We don't need details because it's happening all over
the country. And but the thing is, um, you know,
because I had brought up and I said, well, she
could do that, that's always an option, but does she
want to actually destroy somebody's life over something that actually
seems kind of petty compared to someone's life in their
livelihood and all of these things, and someone who dedicated
their life to actually teaching children might not like how
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they do it, but you need to go destroy them?
And he said, you know, I told her the same thing,
he goes, do you really want to do that? Do
you know, like play things out? Because this is where
when we get super emotional, we don't have the ability
to play things out about those desires in the moment
we think we want, which are typically retaliatory, and and
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we make a bunch of stupid moves. Well, and I
think that you know in that situation. Look, we all
we all get enraged at something, right, but and and
sometimes it's fun just a vent to a friend, like
that's one thing. But to ask yourself to what end?
To what end is exactly right? To what end? Like
how how do I want that? You know, because otherwise
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you're gonna you're gonna meet that person again. Yeah, I
know the spirit. Well, you're gonna have to apologize. Much
easier to apologize now and go, you know what, I
was kind of rude to you earlier. I was a
little rubbed up. Or not do it? That's the other thing, like,
especially some of you don't know premeditate all that kind
of stuff. There's a couple of rules that along this
time of my life I've established. One is I really
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don't want to blow anybody up. I don't I I
don't want to have any harm. You know, we've talked
so much about highest school to all, harm to none.
That is very real to me, That is in my bones.
That is very, very very real to me. And I
think through those things because it is so much a
part of you know, who I am, um, and I
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think through things. The other thing is very It's the
one we've talked about before we had our guns conversation,
is I have no interest in taking anyone's life, even
if they're after mine. I still have no interest in
doing that. And this is these are my choices, right,
not no nobody else, no judge. But you can do
what you can. Go kill a hundred. I don't care.
It's up to you. It's it's like it's your you
gotta pay for it, not me. Everything has a price, people,
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but these are things. These are prices I don't want
to pay. I don't want to do that. I don't
want to be that person that blows people because I can.
We all know I can blow people up like a motherfucker.
And that aren't because you're so strong willed about it,
You've already done that in a lifetime. Because let's say,
you have to realize we've all done it all. We've
all been the sovereigns. We've all been the prostitutes, we've
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all been the pimps, we've all been the victims. We've
all been the perpetrators. Like right, all my agreement. We've
all been maditor, we've all been CEOs, men, we've been women,
we've been in the middle. Right, We've ended our lives
by suicide. Right, we've ended other lives by murder, like
we've we've done at all. It's it's on the human menu,
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and it's done with mutual agreement. Most of the time,
there are things that do happen in unplanned ways. So
I want to be clear about pre life planning. That
doesn't mean that your contract won't be renegotiated in the
moment because of something someone else did or missed or
you know whatever. Gets an example of that. We're going
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to drag this episode out. This is a good and
keep going. Give an example of something that's unplanned that
that things change in the um. You know, things can
happen in a in an instant in uh, something can malfunction,
like an equipment can malfunction. Um, and you know, because
that just happened like a car with a car, right, so, um,
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someone's life it can end in an unplanned way or
in the birthing process if some somebody missed something and
now you you know, your left leg doesn't work or
something like that like that, and then when when that
does happen, boom, there has to be a reconvening of
your your squad, your life strategy squad that says, Okay,
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so what else do you want to sign up for?
Because what we planned isn't available to you? Now, um,
what else do you want to sign up for? Like?
So it happens instantly? So so sh it happens. Yeah,
you know what you're saying. Yeah, every once in a
while and it's like, you know, point nine or something. Oh,
I like how you put statistics. Find that's impressive. I
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can't really tell if it was point nine or nine,
but I don't think it was point nine. Is that
what they're telling you? Your eyes didn't roll? That I
just closed him because I couldn't see. That's hilarious thing. Okay.
I have absolutely utterly enjoyed this. I hope everybody else
has as much as we have, because this was enlightening
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and fun and it also you know, really gives us
things to think about and like you said, be curious
about because being curiosity is a beautiful thing, so filled
with grace, it really is. And like people like curiosity
killed the cat, I'm like, we all quit killing and
skinning cats because it's all I hear our reverence. Leave
the cats alone. Let's just be curious and it can
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be okay and open hearted. Stay open hearted, because stay
open hearted. Remember our school is hard without love and
the other side of the other side. How about that, boy?
Thank you, everybody, Thank you, I love you back by y'all.
(43:35):
Thank you for joining us. Everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey pat and our executive producer Maya
Cole Howard, who guides us well. We guide you. Hit
us up on Instagram at other Side Guides, or shoot
us a note at high h I at vibes dot store.
We want to know what you think, We want to
know what you know, and we want to hear your stories.
(43:58):
And remember, our school is hard without the other side.
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