September 4, 2024 • 38 mins
Mary Poppins knew it was time for her to fly when the wind changed direction. Did you expect anything less from your beloved Elf and Witch?
One of the hardest and most tender Earth School lessons is knowing when to say goodbye, and today, we do just that. With grace and gratitude, Julie and Brenda give thanks, sharing the themes, dreams, insights, and Love that have connected us here weekly for the past five years, and will continue to do so infinitely. Tune in for this very special and bittersweet goodbye.
Because Earth School is hard, but your spiritual toolbox is ready, thanks to Julie, Brenda, and the Other Side.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, br in,
Earth School is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my Witchy Pooh and everyone out there listening.
So based on our title, I think you'll find that
this is the other side of our podcast. So this
will actually be our last show, and really to honor
(01:04):
this is to actually one of the biggest lessons I
think that we learn in Earth School is to know
when it's time for something to be finished, to end,
you know, right. We learn, we learn how to say goodbye,
We learn how to do it with grace and with
(01:26):
love and understanding and celebration and joy. But I have
to tell everybody that this whole journey started because I
practically was in a corner, rocking back and forth, not
knowing how to even get up when my mother was
sick with Alzheimer's, Like that's when it started. And frankly,
(01:47):
what's also the fun that funny not Hahas part of
this timing is that it has been let's say, this
Thanksgiving will be twenty five years to the date of
when I actually saw at the beginning of my mother's
(02:07):
Alzheimer's symptoms. I didn't know what they were. But this
journey's been going on for me for twenty five years,
and at times it has been the shittiest fucking journey
that you could have ever asked for yourself in this lifetime.
And at other times it has been like shock and awe.
(02:29):
Enjoy and love and learning and teaching has been such
an amazing part of it. And I have to tell everybody,
after twenty five years of this journey, I'm okay for
this part to be over. I'm okay for this part
of it where I can sit here and tell everybody
(02:51):
listening thank you, because I couldn't be actually sitting up
today if not for you, and for you, my witchy Pooh,
actually couldn't be standing if not for you. You were
the one who got me to stop rocking back and
forth facing the corner when you came up to me
and put your hand on my back and said, it
(03:11):
doesn't have to be this hard. So I'm going to
put my hand on everybody's back, no matter what it
is that you're dealing with right now, to tell all
of you it doesn't have to be this hard.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, in this space of you know, out of this
crushing challenge that you faced with your mom, you burst
this book that received such, you know, such a warm reception,
reception where people leaned in and said, we want more.
(03:47):
This is how we ended up bringing them the podcast,
right so yeah, yeah, I mean this is how we
got here.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
When I think about this journey that we've shared together,
and it's been about five years, right, yes, it has
the show. Yeah, yeah, so we've been doing this for
five years. And you know, when I think about when
you came to me and said, hey, what do you
think about doing something like this together, I'm like, I
am the last person that should be talk.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
You did say that that's a story.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I think you did the wrong number, you know, and
you know, you challenged me in a good way, And
of course I asked my guides and they said, get
over yourself, you know, and that you know your elf
is right. You can serve a lot of people, and
(04:41):
you know, so I had to dig deep, and you know,
sometimes I did better the times than others to share,
to speak, to offer, but I was always entertained when
I get showed up for the podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That is my job.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, always giggle somewhere along the line. And I think,
you know, that's one of the things I hope people
took away from our time together, like how can they
trust and grow and stretch into unfamiliar territory knowing that
(05:17):
they are supported, that they are you know, have their
inner knowing and their guidance that's brought them to this
threshold for a reason. And so how can you challenge
yourself to show up right?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know. One of the common themes that we have
had throughout this that I keep getting played back to
me from our listeners is about listening. Yes, Like when
they actually listen to us, they're listening. Like, let's just
be really literal in this like math equation, I'm going
to lay out, like you're listening to us, give yourself
(05:57):
the same effort and care and time to listen to yourself.
For that was very meta, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, to pay attention to those whispers, those nudges, those
invisible things that make you go is did I make
that up? Is this real? You know? Like those things?
When you start paying attention to those, you will receive
more of those, and they'll get louder and more clear,
and you'll understand them and you'll the confidence grows, and
(06:27):
it's this beautiful upward spiral.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Can I tell a story, of course you can, because
you know I love to do this, so rumor has
I like to tell stories, and I because I just
feel that if I've experienced something, other people have to.
So let's just talk about it and what it means
and when you taught when you when you were just talking,
(06:51):
it reminded me of literally where I flew back from
last night. I went to Nashville. Somebody that I love
very much is pregnant with twins and had an issue
let's just call it an issue. But her older daughter
is almost thirteen and very interested in the spiritual world,
(07:16):
and so I spent an evening with her and listening
to her talk about about how she's paying attention about
how she's seeing things out of her peripheral vision, about
how and she listens to our show too, how I
guess her both her moms let her listen to the
(07:38):
cousin Mamma Jay and how they had a cat that
had jumped and she saw the cat, actually thought it
was the other cat that was living, Nola, who was
still alive, Like, are seeing these things? And so I'm
seeing this almost teenager, like two months away from being
(07:59):
a teenager. I'm seeing this becoming a woman because she's
listening and paying attention, wanting to know more, asking questions.
And you know what I did, If you want to
take this whole thing full circle, brand just everybody knows
that when I first met Brenda, she had said to me,
(08:22):
She goes, I'm sending you a book. And I know
we've talked about this before, but for those who may
not remember, are taking notes as they should have been
for five years. Sticky note, y'all. But the book you
sent me was do Dead People See You in the Shower?
(08:43):
Written by Clenchitta Bertoli. And in this book, it poses
a question from a mere mortal and then it gives
her answer. It's very short, like bits and pieces. It's
very twenty twenty four when it comes to attention span.
So I just ordered that book for Emerson. I love
that because it is her. It is her, and I
(09:05):
told her, I said, I have the same one, but
I'm not giving mine away. Mine's from Brenda. And let
me tell you what it did for me. And it
was the best entry point for me. So I feel
like I just passed the torch to a teenager, right,
not to another adult, to a teenager, but full circle, right.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, So when we think about, well, we should probably take
a break.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, we'll take a break. Yeah we By the way,
there's no pre talk, no ready for any of this
to say, you guys know or does I head? And
like on end, So bounce around with us for the
next fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How is that different from the last five?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's not different. You didn't have to say that, kay, y'all,
We'll be right back to my evil witch. Okay, Well,
Brenda's still taking a drink. Brinn is drinking on the show.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Just that everybody knows by hot water.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, she's a drinker. So she just reminded me of
actually what some of our plans were. And I think
the lesson to.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You, we're reminiscing. We're reminiscing.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We're kind of reminiscing. These are things you guys don't know,
but yeah, we're reminiscing because you never know when we
still might do it. Maybe in wheelchairs, but we still may.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was twenty twenty. It must have been January twenty twenty,
right when that happened. So what happened is, yeah, it
might have been. We had, you know, we were doing
the podcast and and I think.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, you're you know what it was right when covid
was hitting here, but nobody knew it.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We were invited to go to the iHeart Radio Awards,
not because we were up for an award.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We don't have that kind of podcast obviously, but because
I was going to do readings and so, and obviously
you were going to be there, and you were going
to be the color as always, and I was going
to be in a quarter talking of people went on one,
which is where I belong.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I think human to say I was going to be
the clown and you were going to be the main event.
It's fine. You were the color.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You were up front bringing people in. But so what
happened then is I ended up doing the readings and
it was fun and it was just a beautiful event.
They do such a good job at the event.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And but one of the.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Conversations that came out of that with iHeart was like,
could we do these things live? And in a matter
of weeks the whole world shut down with COVID.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We're going to take it on the road. We weren't.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We're going to do we were going to do you know,
little small town things and do some readings, do some
cold readings, you know, in group settings, but that never happened.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So but we're going to do we were going to
take it on the road.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But but with that, even you know, having the conversations
about what that would bring to the audience, what would
be possible, and you were going to teach pendulums and
you know, it was, it was fun. The important thing
I want to leave with people is, you know, I,
of course I always have things that I want the
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audience to pay attention to, which is probably nothing that
they want, but is to like think think bigger, think
of how because I hope all these little ways that
we've taught you or talked about or discussed or shared
about how to run your energy field, how to protect,
how to direct, how to contain and know oh that
(13:00):
you are you know, not social media influencer, but you
are an energetic influencer in every situation that you engage in,
whether it's physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, how you connect is
actually influencing whatever you're connecting with. And with that challenge
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yourself to know what is possible and how powerful you are.
That's when things I hope people take away and will
always be thinking about, am I energetically clean? Am I
taking care of as you would say, my owf, my
side of the street right right? And how can I
make it better? How is this going to be better?
Because I was involved, or I was present, or I
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was holding someone in the light right right.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Right, And it's not just it's not you know, it's
not the it's not just the aggressive corporate or ladder
climber or kind of thing. That's not what this is,
you know, because in you know, ever since my days
at Fox, my role is very different. Like I've had
conversations within the agency that I work with again when
(14:11):
they're like, oh, well, you know we can do this
influence that, And I said, who actually what people can
you can you pair me with that you would like
to be trained? Like how can I serve in that way?
And they're like, oh, I have a list because nobody
asked that. Nobody asked how can I give? How can
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I spend time? How can I work with people? How
can I still be productive for what we're supposed to do? Obviously,
but how can I do that? And that is also
in part two again all of you into you, my witchipoo,
is that I've actually learned the importance of that, Like
I don't have to be the star of the show.
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I don't have to be the one to get credit
to be to participate is a joy to watch. To
watch a plant or a flower in this way aka
human grow is a joy. To watch them succeed is
a joy.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right. And again, knowing that we're all connected, right, so
when you're you know, blasting someone with support, it goes
beyond what your intention is, It goes beyond you, and
it's contagious. Whatever you're putting out is bigger than you.
(15:39):
So be mindful and really own your power, own your
you know, your energetic influencer status.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's exactly right, exactly right, yeah, you know it is
even whether it's been in a work environment or doing
service in the spiritual realm for people they've come back like, well, yeah,
I owe you, How can I pay you? I said,
your job, and I say this to your job is
(16:08):
to actually pass it along to someone else. That is
your job. I don't live a life of debiting credits
unless we go to dinner all the time and you
happen to forget your wallet every time that bush. Outside
of that, outside of that, there's not a debit or
credit here. It is truly, you know, pass it on,
(16:29):
pass it on, pass it on. That's why I'm such
a Democrat. Pass it on, care for somebody else. We
don't have to worry about our exchange.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And I think that's how you got me to do
the podcasting.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, and so I just also want to add to
that part of the conversation that you started, because you're like, wait,
did you get the wrong number? Because you kind of
said that in your different words but the same energy
when I called you, and I'm like, yeah, I said,
because my vision for this, it's like you are my teacher,
not just mine. You're a lot of people's teacher. And
(17:06):
I think we that dynamic teacher student in this case,
which ELF which is kind of the same diff I
think is such a great way to have conversations that
people can fully understand these Earth School lessons in a
in a full circle way exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So along those lines may have I said one thing
that I hope people will take away, which is that
listening component, how to trust themselves and then challenge themselves
to think large and how to take responsibility for their
energetic influencer impact. What's the hope you have for our audience?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You know, I will tell you something that has been
incredibly powerful, and I think it depends upon kind of
your personality. So speaking to all the other Elms out
there that this is all the fire signs that that
(18:09):
a life changing thing. And I know we've hit on
it in and out, but I want to make a
big point about it is about the asking of permission.
To me and I talked about a lot this last
weekend when I was sitting in a Nashville hospital, did
not know what day or time it was, but talking
about permission a lot, and permission is so important whether
(18:35):
it is you're actually like if you if you are
in touch with your your gifts and you're getting a message,
it's like, you don't blurt, you know, you don't just
jump into somebody's space to blurt something. If you have
an idea and work and it's not your idea or
(18:55):
not meaning your area, you're like, you know what, I
have a thought? Do you mind if I share it?
And all of sudden it turns into because I'm going
to be honest with y'all, I've never gotten to know
just ps it's because I'm so charming is all of
a sudden it turns into an invitation. And that's what
(19:16):
I learned from you. So credit one hundred percent to
you taught me about invitation permission because it has completely
and utterly changed my life. I don't go around carrying
all that baggage because of who I WinCE was. I
know that didn't make sense, but I wanted to say it,
(19:38):
WinCE and I was also turned around apologizing a lot.
That's exhausting, y'all. It is so much better for everybody
involved if you have permission. So permission to me, m,
that's godly.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Permission, beautiful and so much easier comically, Oh are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I carry I was going to say I carry so
much less weight, and I was actually going to be
make a joke of the weight I have gained and
lost on this podcast, but that is not necessary, and
then lost again and gained again. Yeah, but that's also
about being mindful though.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, it's just always it's all been a journey, right
for all of us. For our listeners though, and who
stayed with us, they found us and in the most
unusual ways and shared those stories. That's what was always fun.
And I just I loved how they reached out to
us and shared their connections and surprises and blesses and
(20:38):
blessings and challenges. Y'all are very generous, and I just
really want to thank you well.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And I think it's that gratefulness that kept us going
this long. Let's be honest, we didn't plan on this
to even go as long as we did. You know,
I was a surprise. It was a little bit of
a surprise. In fact, let's be honest, we don't know
what the hell we're getting ourselves into. So let's just
start with that. Because we actually started even though we
didn't launch it till it was a live till October,
(21:06):
but it has been a full five years, yes, because
we met in Atlanta to record, and it was actually
my fiftieth birthday, and I git with that's the day
I arrived, and full on it's my fifty fifth, so
I can keep track based on that. And you know,
it's also really funny. Is the other thing I think
that I would like for folks to really embrace is
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because I actually, because y'all know, Britta and I had video,
you don't see it, and this has actually been the
best hair day I've had in five years. I don't
know why. It's amazing I finally got it colored. But
what's funny that I look is like I look at
our faces, and I can look at my face and
I can see there's more lines I see, there's more
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age I see. And the reason I got my hair
colored is because I'm getting those weird white, you know,
wild ass hairs, but embracing that part of Earth's school.
And you know, when I was at another part of
the story from this last weekend, I was at the
hospital and kept going to the cafeteria one I needed
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to move. Plus I was being sent on errands and
I was just you know, it was the it was
the the the g y N emergency area, so they
kind of knew that's where I was coming from. And
can I tell them, oh, you must have a grand
baby on its way. Okay. For the fucking record, that
(22:37):
was the first time I have ever been classified and
the grandma stage, and I'm like, so at first, I
was like, oh, I can't even pass that. I am
at an age that could be with someone who's having
a child, like I didn't even pass that. And so
there is a grace of it and embrace of it.
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And because I think when we fight, the physical part
and where we are leads to some of the crazy
Earth school shit that can happen to us, right.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And I would say that for anything we resist keeps
us out of alignment.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Okay, I said up a nice way, I said that shit, fine,
you definitely bre into eyes it, thank you very much.
But it's true though, right, because it's like, but I
didn't resist. It was just the first time it hit me,
and I was like, and first I went, oh, okay,
it's really real now, and then you went like, oh, okay,
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I'm now it's really real now. Okay, okay, I'm okay
with this. It's like because then there's always you know,
listen and a lot of cases, words are cheap, do
you know people are like and I being younger, I
remember people complaining about age or what have it, and
it's like, it's always better than the alternative. Okay, words
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are fucking cheap when it comes to that, because when
it's yours to face, don't ever say that to someone.
Once you understand that, it's like, eh, that's mabby alternative. Okay,
practically yes it is, but I am now dealing with
the other It's again the other side. I'm on the
other side of that hill. And it's interesting. It's like,
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how am I going to carry that? And I'm going
to say that for people who go from their twenties
and thirties, their thirties to forties, their forties to fifties
or fifties and sixties, sixties and seventies, I think I've
covered off a lot of map.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I would also say, just because you know, of counterpoint,
sometimes it's not better than being on the other side.
So with that, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh my god, that's hilarious. I took me a minute.
I was so slow. That was so good, right, all right, y'all,
my which still a drinker because i mean, for some reason,
you're like, let's go back and you start to take
(25:06):
a drink and I'm like, okay, so somebody's turned into
a drinker on our last episode. But you hit it, sister,
what you got?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I just you know, thinking about your mom's journey
twenty five years ago, and you though I'm clearly the
older of the two. Clearly my mom was dis diagnosed
with Alzheimer's and I'm just glad to have you as
my guide on the other side because it's it's a tough, dicey,
(25:39):
dicey journey, and I'm so grateful for your love and
support and guidance and you know, to have the gift
of understanding the energetics when the words in the mind
doesn't work. I'm like, I'm talking to her all the
time on the etheric level, the astral level and is
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helping and so you know, there's a lot, a lot
to learn, a lot to learn. So just making that
full circle.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah right, I mean I knew right that this is
twenty five years later, it would be your journey.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, exactly and you never know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You don't ever know. And I think that, I mean,
I could give a list for the next hour of
the things not to do in this scenario. Just keep
in mind, I was thirty and dumb as a door knob,
and I was scared. I had no idea what was coming.
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I was the first one of anybody in my orbit,
and then those who have entered my orbit since then
still the youngest to have dealt with it. And I
think there was a bit of that was part of
a purpose for me that I had to prove other people,
because clearly I'm a talker and I'm happy to talk
about and I also don't have I really don't. I
have very little shame and I'll talk about this stuff
(27:10):
I didn't do right. And I think the hard parts, though,
are very similar for everyone. I don't know if I've
ever talked about on the show about having the PTSD
about listening to voicemails, but that's real and that still
exists to this day, and it's been twenty five years
that I refuse to listen to voicemails because I was
(27:30):
so traumatized by the ones that were left for me
when my mother was sick, and there's real things, y'all
that you face with this. I felt like a failure constantly.
I started not to recognize I knew how the pain
she was in. But I will tell you, guys, the
number one thing that I learned in my life through
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her illness, through my own journey after her illness, and
what continues to this day. Well, there's several things, but
the one thing that is so critical is that no
matter what adversary does say, adversary does say it right.
Why do I have problems saying words all the time? Adversary, Yeah, adversary,
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it sounds like anniversary in my head. Okay, trouble, whatever
trouble you say in the conflict may arise, and y'all,
I gotta know. When Brenda started talking, I've had tears
in my eyes since then. But I still can be funny.
I want to be. My goal is the like the
funniest sad person I can be when something arises, is
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it is about to me? The magic word is dignity,
and dignity is something that I didn't understand until I
was in well late thirties, probably mid to late thirties,
because here was this woman that was my hero that
I love more than I think I could have ever
possibly learned to love in the world. I mean unconditional love.
(29:05):
Everything everyone knows. I've talked about it, You've read people
have read my book. No exactly. I mean I wrote
a fucking book because I was grieving so hard about her,
and then I wrote it because I had you that
helped me through it, and Suzanne helped me through it.
So it's like I wrote a book for all the
people I love. But dignity is this thing about dignity
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for yourself and that self care dignity for the other person,
which is they can't self care, so you show them
the dignity of being a spirit in a human body
that you love deeply. That is why you do it.
So it is all about self care. Right, you're capable,
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they are not. And so especially when you're dealing with
a memory disease, when it's conce repetition or forgetfulness, that
right like that, it's like I answered the hundredth time
the sweetest way I did the first time, and.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's it, And that's a gift. I do want to
I don't want to bring it back to the audience. Yeah,
when I think about wrapping up this journey and all
of the various conversations we've had, from crystals to oils
to spirits that shall not be named, all the things
(30:35):
I hope, you know. The theme that I really I
hope they'll walk away from is that love and support
that they have access to all the time, even if
you're grieving someone that you loved so deeply, and that
love is never destroyed. You just lost them physically, but
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that's it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's that's true.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You just lost so physically, So keep that connection. You
cannot destroy the love. You can write a book about it,
you know, like my off did, but you can, you know,
And that I also hope that as you know, as
this podcast comes to a close in this version, that
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you know and feel that we've given you everything that
we can give you. But your journey doesn't end here.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And quit reading my mind, and damn it, and.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
How important it would be for you to trust your
instincts and engage your discernment going forward. So just really
trust that and work that. Don't go in hopeful, don't
go in blindly, test and verify and then make your choices.
But that's that's what I really wanted to say about that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And I listen, I will just concur I I was
thinking when you were talking about, like, what's that last thing?
And I think the last thing is continue your journey,
continue being a seeker. You sought us out, or if
you're friends of mine, I made you, but whatever, But
you're not forced to anymore. But I really I think
(32:22):
being a seeker, if you look at all the different archetypes,
being a seeker in this aspect is so crucial. And
so I just encourage everybody to still be a seeker.
There are so many wonderful voices that are out there
for you. Whether it's on a podcast, whether it's on
a TikTok video. We don't trust them all. We aren't
(32:42):
taught you how to see through that shit. But whether
it's on a show, whether it's a book for you
to read, whether it is a local bookstar, yes, exactly right.
But I in talking to people, you know, like, that's
another way to be a seeker.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And the most unusual counters. Trust those, be open to those.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
They're the best. Yeah, they're the best. So just continue
being a seeker. See I still seek?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, me too, Oh definitely, are you kidding? And for
me personally. The one thing I really wanted to thank
people for, and one thing that I learned as the
most reluctant podcast co host, is true. I want to
thank everyone for allowing me, in you know, in my
(33:31):
quirky way, to show up week after week and speak
and be received. You know, I've spent so much of
my life making sure no one was uncomfortable around my
other part of myself or my world. And to come
and be able to giggle and play and not have
(33:53):
to edit or hold things back, and just allow me
to expand in this way, and I will never be
the same. And I want to thank you for that,
for that gift that I never would have known to
ask for or imagine receiving. So thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Okay, well then I'm going to say I go. My
whole goal in life was to make people uncomfortable. So
you're welcome. I don't know what to say. I mean,
I really don't. That's why we're such a good duo.
It's like my life, at least, the most unlikely duo.
We are. Well great, you guys, rewatch the heat and
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know that that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That turning your shirt inside out. It isn't the same
as clean.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
It is no matter what Brenda says. So so seriously
rewatch the heat if you have, or watch for the
first time and know that I actually do not have
a rifle in my fridge next to a sub sandwich,
but if I could, I would. But that's us, Like,
that's that's the beauty. See, that's the other thing. I mean.
One last lesson is, man, everybody doesn't have to be
(35:08):
like you to love them. They don't. I so prefer
people not like me because I exhaust myself. And why
in God's name would I want more of may around,
Like be open to others and learn from them and
listen and have grace for them and beg for grace
if you're an asshole like me. But just it's like
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there's really space for all of us. And I think
I think you and I are a really great example
of that because really get the core, we're not any different.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's correct, that is correct.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
We're not you're better than me, But that's okay. I
accepted that a long time ago. I know it's again.
I just want to thank my alf for your grace
and wrapped up in silliness.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And and discomfort, and to our audience, thank you so
much for showing us and stay in touch. I am
going to take the Trinity. I've got some new classes
coming up, so come check me out.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, Brenda rose y'all on Insta and I still have
my dumb ass so you'll see pictures of Sickie. But
I have to say, Brenda, I love you with every
fiber of my being. I would not be the decent
human being that I have become if not for you
and to all of you, thank you for allowing me
to be the a decent cussing human. Oh my helf,
(36:40):
and thank you iHeart. So we want to thank Joey,
our engineer. I want to thank all the way up
to Bob definitely Maya, to Will who heads up podcasts.
So we just want to thank all of you for
giving us this opportunity to like be friends in public.
So we owe you parts of our hearts and souls.
(37:03):
So to all of you, thank you. So remember our
school is hard without the other side and this podcast.
Goodbye everybody, and thank you again, see you on this side.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Thank you for joining us everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya
Cole Howard who guides us while we guide.
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Speaker 2 (37:43):
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Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, br in,
Earth School is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my Witchy Pooh and everyone out there listening.
So based on our title, I think you'll find that
this is the other side of our podcast. So this
will actually be our last show, and really to honor
(01:04):
this is to actually one of the biggest lessons I
think that we learn in Earth School is to know
when it's time for something to be finished, to end,
you know, right. We learn, we learn how to say goodbye,
We learn how to do it with grace and with
(01:26):
love and understanding and celebration and joy. But I have
to tell everybody that this whole journey started because I
practically was in a corner, rocking back and forth, not
knowing how to even get up when my mother was
sick with Alzheimer's, Like that's when it started. And frankly,
(01:47):
what's also the fun that funny not Hahas part of
this timing is that it has been let's say, this
Thanksgiving will be twenty five years to the date of
when I actually saw at the beginning of my mother's
(02:07):
Alzheimer's symptoms. I didn't know what they were. But this
journey's been going on for me for twenty five years,
and at times it has been the shittiest fucking journey
that you could have ever asked for yourself in this lifetime.
And at other times it has been like shock and awe.
(02:29):
Enjoy and love and learning and teaching has been such
an amazing part of it. And I have to tell everybody,
after twenty five years of this journey, I'm okay for
this part to be over. I'm okay for this part
of it where I can sit here and tell everybody
(02:51):
listening thank you, because I couldn't be actually sitting up
today if not for you, and for you, my witchy Pooh,
actually couldn't be standing if not for you. You were
the one who got me to stop rocking back and
forth facing the corner when you came up to me
and put your hand on my back and said, it
(03:11):
doesn't have to be this hard. So I'm going to
put my hand on everybody's back, no matter what it
is that you're dealing with right now, to tell all
of you it doesn't have to be this hard.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, in this space of you know, out of this
crushing challenge that you faced with your mom, you burst
this book that received such, you know, such a warm reception,
reception where people leaned in and said, we want more.
(03:47):
This is how we ended up bringing them the podcast,
right so yeah, yeah, I mean this is how we
got here.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
And I just.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
When I think about this journey that we've shared together,
and it's been about five years, right, yes, it has
the show. Yeah, yeah, so we've been doing this for
five years. And you know, when I think about when
you came to me and said, hey, what do you
think about doing something like this together, I'm like, I
am the last person that should be talk.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
You did say that that's a story.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I think you did the wrong number, you know, and
you know, you challenged me in a good way, And
of course I asked my guides and they said, get
over yourself, you know, and that you know your elf
is right. You can serve a lot of people, and
(04:41):
you know, so I had to dig deep, and you know,
sometimes I did better the times than others to share,
to speak, to offer, but I was always entertained when
I get showed up for the podcast.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That is my job.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, always giggle somewhere along the line. And I think,
you know, that's one of the things I hope people
took away from our time together, like how can they
trust and grow and stretch into unfamiliar territory knowing that
(05:17):
they are supported, that they are you know, have their
inner knowing and their guidance that's brought them to this
threshold for a reason. And so how can you challenge
yourself to show up right?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know. One of the common themes that we have
had throughout this that I keep getting played back to
me from our listeners is about listening. Yes, Like when
they actually listen to us, they're listening. Like, let's just
be really literal in this like math equation, I'm going
to lay out, like you're listening to us, give yourself
(05:57):
the same effort and care and time to listen to yourself.
For that was very meta, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, to pay attention to those whispers, those nudges, those
invisible things that make you go is did I make
that up? Is this real? You know? Like those things?
When you start paying attention to those, you will receive
more of those, and they'll get louder and more clear,
and you'll understand them and you'll the confidence grows, and
(06:27):
it's this beautiful upward spiral.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Can I tell a story, of course you can, because
you know I love to do this, so rumor has
I like to tell stories, and I because I just
feel that if I've experienced something, other people have to.
So let's just talk about it and what it means
and when you taught when you when you were just talking,
(06:51):
it reminded me of literally where I flew back from
last night. I went to Nashville. Somebody that I love
very much is pregnant with twins and had an issue
let's just call it an issue. But her older daughter
is almost thirteen and very interested in the spiritual world,
(07:16):
and so I spent an evening with her and listening
to her talk about about how she's paying attention about
how she's seeing things out of her peripheral vision, about
how and she listens to our show too, how I
guess her both her moms let her listen to the
(07:38):
cousin Mamma Jay and how they had a cat that
had jumped and she saw the cat, actually thought it
was the other cat that was living, Nola, who was
still alive, Like, are seeing these things? And so I'm
seeing this almost teenager, like two months away from being
(07:59):
a teenager. I'm seeing this becoming a woman because she's
listening and paying attention, wanting to know more, asking questions.
And you know what I did, If you want to
take this whole thing full circle, brand just everybody knows
that when I first met Brenda, she had said to me,
(08:22):
She goes, I'm sending you a book. And I know
we've talked about this before, but for those who may
not remember, are taking notes as they should have been
for five years. Sticky note, y'all. But the book you
sent me was do Dead People See You in the Shower?
(08:43):
Written by Clenchitta Bertoli. And in this book, it poses
a question from a mere mortal and then it gives
her answer. It's very short, like bits and pieces. It's
very twenty twenty four when it comes to attention span.
So I just ordered that book for Emerson. I love
that because it is her. It is her, and I
(09:05):
told her, I said, I have the same one, but
I'm not giving mine away. Mine's from Brenda. And let
me tell you what it did for me. And it
was the best entry point for me. So I feel
like I just passed the torch to a teenager, right,
not to another adult, to a teenager, but full circle, right.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, So when we think about, well, we should probably take
a break.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, we'll take a break. Yeah we By the way,
there's no pre talk, no ready for any of this
to say, you guys know or does I head? And
like on end, So bounce around with us for the
next fifteen twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How is that different from the last five?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's not different. You didn't have to say that, kay, y'all,
We'll be right back to my evil witch. Okay, Well,
Brenda's still taking a drink. Brinn is drinking on the show.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Just that everybody knows by hot water.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, she's a drinker. So she just reminded me of
actually what some of our plans were. And I think
the lesson to.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You, we're reminiscing. We're reminiscing.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
We're kind of reminiscing. These are things you guys don't know,
but yeah, we're reminiscing because you never know when we
still might do it. Maybe in wheelchairs, but we still may.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
It was twenty twenty. It must have been January twenty twenty,
right when that happened. So what happened is, yeah, it
might have been. We had, you know, we were doing
the podcast and and I think.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
No, you're you know what it was right when covid
was hitting here, but nobody knew it.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We were invited to go to the iHeart Radio Awards,
not because we were up for an award.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
We don't have that kind of podcast obviously, but because
I was going to do readings and so, and obviously
you were going to be there, and you were going
to be the color as always, and I was going
to be in a quarter talking of people went on one,
which is where I belong.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I think human to say I was going to be
the clown and you were going to be the main event.
It's fine. You were the color.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You were up front bringing people in. But so what
happened then is I ended up doing the readings and
it was fun and it was just a beautiful event.
They do such a good job at the event.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And but one of the.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Conversations that came out of that with iHeart was like,
could we do these things live? And in a matter
of weeks the whole world shut down with COVID.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
We're going to take it on the road. We weren't.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We're going to do we were going to do you know,
little small town things and do some readings, do some
cold readings, you know, in group settings, but that never happened.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So but we're going to do we were going to
take it on the road.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But but with that, even you know, having the conversations
about what that would bring to the audience, what would
be possible, and you were going to teach pendulums and
you know, it was, it was fun. The important thing
I want to leave with people is, you know, I,
of course I always have things that I want the
(12:38):
audience to pay attention to, which is probably nothing that
they want, but is to like think think bigger, think
of how because I hope all these little ways that
we've taught you or talked about or discussed or shared
about how to run your energy field, how to protect,
how to direct, how to contain and know oh that
(13:00):
you are you know, not social media influencer, but you
are an energetic influencer in every situation that you engage in,
whether it's physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, how you connect is
actually influencing whatever you're connecting with. And with that challenge
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yourself to know what is possible and how powerful you are.
That's when things I hope people take away and will
always be thinking about, am I energetically clean? Am I
taking care of as you would say, my owf, my
side of the street right right? And how can I
make it better? How is this going to be better?
Because I was involved, or I was present, or I
(13:42):
was holding someone in the light right right.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Right, And it's not just it's not you know, it's
not the it's not just the aggressive corporate or ladder
climber or kind of thing. That's not what this is,
you know, because in you know, ever since my days
at Fox, my role is very different. Like I've had
conversations within the agency that I work with again when
(14:11):
they're like, oh, well, you know we can do this
influence that, And I said, who actually what people can
you can you pair me with that you would like
to be trained? Like how can I serve in that way?
And they're like, oh, I have a list because nobody
asked that. Nobody asked how can I give? How can
(14:32):
I spend time? How can I work with people? How
can I still be productive for what we're supposed to do? Obviously,
but how can I do that? And that is also
in part two again all of you into you, my witchipoo,
is that I've actually learned the importance of that, Like
I don't have to be the star of the show.
(14:55):
I don't have to be the one to get credit
to be to participate is a joy to watch. To
watch a plant or a flower in this way aka
human grow is a joy. To watch them succeed is
a joy.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right. And again, knowing that we're all connected, right, so
when you're you know, blasting someone with support, it goes
beyond what your intention is, It goes beyond you, and
it's contagious. Whatever you're putting out is bigger than you.
(15:39):
So be mindful and really own your power, own your
you know, your energetic influencer status.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's exactly right, exactly right, yeah, you know it is
even whether it's been in a work environment or doing
service in the spiritual realm for people they've come back like, well, yeah,
I owe you, How can I pay you? I said,
your job, and I say this to your job is
(16:08):
to actually pass it along to someone else. That is
your job. I don't live a life of debiting credits
unless we go to dinner all the time and you
happen to forget your wallet every time that bush. Outside
of that, outside of that, there's not a debit or
credit here. It is truly, you know, pass it on,
(16:29):
pass it on, pass it on. That's why I'm such
a Democrat. Pass it on, care for somebody else. We
don't have to worry about our exchange.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
And I think that's how you got me to do
the podcasting.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, and so I just also want to add to
that part of the conversation that you started, because you're like, wait,
did you get the wrong number? Because you kind of
said that in your different words but the same energy
when I called you, and I'm like, yeah, I said,
because my vision for this, it's like you are my teacher,
not just mine. You're a lot of people's teacher. And
(17:06):
I think we that dynamic teacher student in this case,
which ELF which is kind of the same diff I
think is such a great way to have conversations that
people can fully understand these Earth School lessons in a
in a full circle way exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So along those lines may have I said one thing
that I hope people will take away, which is that
listening component, how to trust themselves and then challenge themselves
to think large and how to take responsibility for their
energetic influencer impact. What's the hope you have for our audience?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
You know, I will tell you something that has been
incredibly powerful, and I think it depends upon kind of
your personality. So speaking to all the other Elms out
there that this is all the fire signs that that
(18:09):
a life changing thing. And I know we've hit on
it in and out, but I want to make a
big point about it is about the asking of permission.
To me and I talked about a lot this last
weekend when I was sitting in a Nashville hospital, did
not know what day or time it was, but talking
about permission a lot, and permission is so important whether
(18:35):
it is you're actually like if you if you are
in touch with your your gifts and you're getting a message,
it's like, you don't blurt, you know, you don't just
jump into somebody's space to blurt something. If you have
an idea and work and it's not your idea or
(18:55):
not meaning your area, you're like, you know what, I
have a thought? Do you mind if I share it?
And all of sudden it turns into because I'm going
to be honest with y'all, I've never gotten to know
just ps it's because I'm so charming is all of
a sudden it turns into an invitation. And that's what
(19:16):
I learned from you. So credit one hundred percent to
you taught me about invitation permission because it has completely
and utterly changed my life. I don't go around carrying
all that baggage because of who I WinCE was. I
know that didn't make sense, but I wanted to say it,
(19:38):
WinCE and I was also turned around apologizing a lot.
That's exhausting, y'all. It is so much better for everybody
involved if you have permission. So permission to me, m,
that's godly.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Permission, beautiful and so much easier comically, Oh are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I carry I was going to say I carry so
much less weight, and I was actually going to be
make a joke of the weight I have gained and
lost on this podcast, but that is not necessary, and
then lost again and gained again. Yeah, but that's also
about being mindful though.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, it's just always it's all been a journey, right
for all of us. For our listeners though, and who
stayed with us, they found us and in the most
unusual ways and shared those stories. That's what was always fun.
And I just I loved how they reached out to
us and shared their connections and surprises and blesses and
(20:38):
blessings and challenges. Y'all are very generous, and I just
really want to thank you well.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And I think it's that gratefulness that kept us going
this long. Let's be honest, we didn't plan on this
to even go as long as we did. You know,
I was a surprise. It was a little bit of
a surprise. In fact, let's be honest, we don't know
what the hell we're getting ourselves into. So let's just
start with that. Because we actually started even though we
didn't launch it till it was a live till October,
(21:06):
but it has been a full five years, yes, because
we met in Atlanta to record, and it was actually
my fiftieth birthday, and I git with that's the day
I arrived, and full on it's my fifty fifth, so
I can keep track based on that. And you know,
it's also really funny. Is the other thing I think
that I would like for folks to really embrace is
(21:31):
because I actually, because y'all know, Britta and I had video,
you don't see it, and this has actually been the
best hair day I've had in five years. I don't
know why. It's amazing I finally got it colored. But
what's funny that I look is like I look at
our faces, and I can look at my face and
I can see there's more lines I see, there's more
(21:53):
age I see. And the reason I got my hair
colored is because I'm getting those weird white, you know,
wild ass hairs, but embracing that part of Earth's school.
And you know, when I was at another part of
the story from this last weekend, I was at the
hospital and kept going to the cafeteria one I needed
(22:15):
to move. Plus I was being sent on errands and
I was just you know, it was the it was
the the the g y N emergency area, so they
kind of knew that's where I was coming from. And
can I tell them, oh, you must have a grand
baby on its way. Okay. For the fucking record, that
(22:37):
was the first time I have ever been classified and
the grandma stage, and I'm like, so at first, I
was like, oh, I can't even pass that. I am
at an age that could be with someone who's having
a child, like I didn't even pass that. And so
there is a grace of it and embrace of it.
(23:01):
And because I think when we fight, the physical part
and where we are leads to some of the crazy
Earth school shit that can happen to us, right.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And I would say that for anything we resist keeps
us out of alignment.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Okay, I said up a nice way, I said that shit, fine,
you definitely bre into eyes it, thank you very much.
But it's true though, right, because it's like, but I
didn't resist. It was just the first time it hit me,
and I was like, and first I went, oh, okay,
it's really real now, and then you went like, oh, okay,
(23:36):
I'm now it's really real now. Okay, okay, I'm okay
with this. It's like because then there's always you know,
listen and a lot of cases, words are cheap, do
you know people are like and I being younger, I
remember people complaining about age or what have it, and
it's like, it's always better than the alternative. Okay, words
(23:57):
are fucking cheap when it comes to that, because when
it's yours to face, don't ever say that to someone.
Once you understand that, it's like, eh, that's mabby alternative. Okay,
practically yes it is, but I am now dealing with
the other It's again the other side. I'm on the
other side of that hill. And it's interesting. It's like,
(24:21):
how am I going to carry that? And I'm going
to say that for people who go from their twenties
and thirties, their thirties to forties, their forties to fifties
or fifties and sixties, sixties and seventies, I think I've
covered off a lot of map.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I would also say, just because you know, of counterpoint,
sometimes it's not better than being on the other side.
So with that, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh my god, that's hilarious. I took me a minute.
I was so slow. That was so good, right, all right, y'all,
my which still a drinker because i mean, for some reason,
you're like, let's go back and you start to take
(25:06):
a drink and I'm like, okay, so somebody's turned into
a drinker on our last episode. But you hit it, sister,
what you got?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I just you know, thinking about your mom's journey
twenty five years ago, and you though I'm clearly the
older of the two. Clearly my mom was dis diagnosed
with Alzheimer's and I'm just glad to have you as
my guide on the other side because it's it's a tough, dicey,
(25:39):
dicey journey, and I'm so grateful for your love and
support and guidance and you know, to have the gift
of understanding the energetics when the words in the mind
doesn't work. I'm like, I'm talking to her all the
time on the etheric level, the astral level and is
(26:01):
helping and so you know, there's a lot, a lot
to learn, a lot to learn. So just making that
full circle.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah right, I mean I knew right that this is
twenty five years later, it would be your journey.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, exactly and you never know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You don't ever know. And I think that, I mean,
I could give a list for the next hour of
the things not to do in this scenario. Just keep
in mind, I was thirty and dumb as a door knob,
and I was scared. I had no idea what was coming.
(26:47):
I was the first one of anybody in my orbit,
and then those who have entered my orbit since then
still the youngest to have dealt with it. And I
think there was a bit of that was part of
a purpose for me that I had to prove other people,
because clearly I'm a talker and I'm happy to talk
about and I also don't have I really don't. I
have very little shame and I'll talk about this stuff
(27:10):
I didn't do right. And I think the hard parts, though,
are very similar for everyone. I don't know if I've
ever talked about on the show about having the PTSD
about listening to voicemails, but that's real and that still
exists to this day, and it's been twenty five years
that I refuse to listen to voicemails because I was
(27:30):
so traumatized by the ones that were left for me
when my mother was sick, and there's real things, y'all
that you face with this. I felt like a failure constantly.
I started not to recognize I knew how the pain
she was in. But I will tell you, guys, the
number one thing that I learned in my life through
(27:56):
her illness, through my own journey after her illness, and
what continues to this day. Well, there's several things, but
the one thing that is so critical is that no
matter what adversary does say, adversary does say it right.
Why do I have problems saying words all the time? Adversary, Yeah, adversary,
(28:18):
it sounds like anniversary in my head. Okay, trouble, whatever
trouble you say in the conflict may arise, and y'all,
I gotta know. When Brenda started talking, I've had tears
in my eyes since then. But I still can be funny.
I want to be. My goal is the like the
funniest sad person I can be when something arises, is
(28:42):
it is about to me? The magic word is dignity,
and dignity is something that I didn't understand until I
was in well late thirties, probably mid to late thirties,
because here was this woman that was my hero that
I love more than I think I could have ever
possibly learned to love in the world. I mean unconditional love.
(29:05):
Everything everyone knows. I've talked about it, You've read people
have read my book. No exactly. I mean I wrote
a fucking book because I was grieving so hard about her,
and then I wrote it because I had you that
helped me through it, and Suzanne helped me through it.
So it's like I wrote a book for all the
people I love. But dignity is this thing about dignity
(29:27):
for yourself and that self care dignity for the other person,
which is they can't self care, so you show them
the dignity of being a spirit in a human body
that you love deeply. That is why you do it.
So it is all about self care. Right, you're capable,
(29:50):
they are not. And so especially when you're dealing with
a memory disease, when it's conce repetition or forgetfulness, that
right like that, it's like I answered the hundredth time
the sweetest way I did the first time, and.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
That's it, And that's a gift. I do want to
I don't want to bring it back to the audience. Yeah,
when I think about wrapping up this journey and all
of the various conversations we've had, from crystals to oils
to spirits that shall not be named, all the things
(30:35):
I hope, you know. The theme that I really I
hope they'll walk away from is that love and support
that they have access to all the time, even if
you're grieving someone that you loved so deeply, and that
love is never destroyed. You just lost them physically, but
(30:58):
that's it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's that's true.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You just lost so physically, So keep that connection. You
cannot destroy the love. You can write a book about it,
you know, like my off did, but you can, you know,
And that I also hope that as you know, as
this podcast comes to a close in this version, that
(31:23):
you know and feel that we've given you everything that
we can give you. But your journey doesn't end here.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And quit reading my mind, and damn it, and.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
How important it would be for you to trust your
instincts and engage your discernment going forward. So just really
trust that and work that. Don't go in hopeful, don't
go in blindly, test and verify and then make your choices.
But that's that's what I really wanted to say about that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And I listen, I will just concur I I was
thinking when you were talking about, like, what's that last thing?
And I think the last thing is continue your journey,
continue being a seeker. You sought us out, or if
you're friends of mine, I made you, but whatever, But
you're not forced to anymore. But I really I think
(32:22):
being a seeker, if you look at all the different archetypes,
being a seeker in this aspect is so crucial. And
so I just encourage everybody to still be a seeker.
There are so many wonderful voices that are out there
for you. Whether it's on a podcast, whether it's on
a TikTok video. We don't trust them all. We aren't
(32:42):
taught you how to see through that shit. But whether
it's on a show, whether it's a book for you
to read, whether it is a local bookstar, yes, exactly right.
But I in talking to people, you know, like, that's
another way to be a seeker.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And the most unusual counters. Trust those, be open to those.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
They're the best. Yeah, they're the best. So just continue
being a seeker. See I still seek?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, me too, Oh definitely, are you kidding? And for
me personally. The one thing I really wanted to thank
people for, and one thing that I learned as the
most reluctant podcast co host, is true. I want to
thank everyone for allowing me, in you know, in my
(33:31):
quirky way, to show up week after week and speak
and be received. You know, I've spent so much of
my life making sure no one was uncomfortable around my
other part of myself or my world. And to come
and be able to giggle and play and not have
(33:53):
to edit or hold things back, and just allow me
to expand in this way, and I will never be
the same. And I want to thank you for that,
for that gift that I never would have known to
ask for or imagine receiving. So thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Okay, well then I'm going to say I go. My
whole goal in life was to make people uncomfortable. So
you're welcome. I don't know what to say. I mean,
I really don't. That's why we're such a good duo.
It's like my life, at least, the most unlikely duo.
We are. Well great, you guys, rewatch the heat and
(34:36):
know that that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That turning your shirt inside out. It isn't the same
as clean.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
It is no matter what Brenda says. So so seriously
rewatch the heat if you have, or watch for the
first time and know that I actually do not have
a rifle in my fridge next to a sub sandwich,
but if I could, I would. But that's us, Like,
that's that's the beauty. See, that's the other thing. I mean.
One last lesson is, man, everybody doesn't have to be
(35:08):
like you to love them. They don't. I so prefer
people not like me because I exhaust myself. And why
in God's name would I want more of may around,
Like be open to others and learn from them and
listen and have grace for them and beg for grace
if you're an asshole like me. But just it's like
(35:28):
there's really space for all of us. And I think
I think you and I are a really great example
of that because really get the core, we're not any different.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's correct, that is correct.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
We're not you're better than me, But that's okay. I
accepted that a long time ago. I know it's again.
I just want to thank my alf for your grace
and wrapped up in silliness.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And and discomfort, and to our audience, thank you so
much for showing us and stay in touch. I am
going to take the Trinity. I've got some new classes
coming up, so come check me out.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, Brenda rose y'all on Insta and I still have
my dumb ass so you'll see pictures of Sickie. But
I have to say, Brenda, I love you with every
fiber of my being. I would not be the decent
human being that I have become if not for you
and to all of you, thank you for allowing me
to be the a decent cussing human. Oh my helf,
(36:40):
and thank you iHeart. So we want to thank Joey,
our engineer. I want to thank all the way up
to Bob definitely Maya, to Will who heads up podcasts.
So we just want to thank all of you for
giving us this opportunity to like be friends in public.
So we owe you parts of our hearts and souls.
(37:03):
So to all of you, thank you. So remember our
school is hard without the other side and this podcast.
Goodbye everybody, and thank you again, see you on this side.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Thank you for joining us everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya
Cole Howard who guides us while we guide.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
You, hit us up on Instagram at other Side Guides,
or shoot us a note at high Hi at vibes
dot Store.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We want to know what you think, We want to
know what you know, and we want to hear your stories.
And remember, our school is hard without the other Side.
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