June 14, 2023 • 34 mins
Aliens. They're everywhere these days. Alien summer has officially arrived from conspiracies to certainty, skeptics to scientists...Or... has it been here for longer than we think?
Today's episode is inspired by a recent article in Popular Mechanics (May 2023), where Garry Nolan, Professor of Pathology School of Medicine at Stanford University, says, without a doubt, Aliens have 100% already arrived. What makes this declaration so unusual is never before has a member of academia publicly acknowledged Alien existence. It turns out, few believe the conspiracies, even fewer believe the government... but a man of Stanford? He has space cred.
Today we'll discuss Dr. Nolans' research and beliefs. You'll learn what a WOW is, what a UAP is, and what happens to the pilots who get a little too curious about unidentified spacecraft. We'll also explore the legend of the Roswell Alien Wood and apply it to some home decorating tips courtesy of Julie. So tune in, buckle up, and enjoy the ride... because Earth School is hard, and the Aliens are here. 👽
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, for
in Earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh, holy shit, do we have
a show by you for everybody else? Let's try to
make it rhyme. In fact, if anybody wants to reach
out to an Instagram and give you some better witchypoo rhymes,
I'm open, give me something.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm good. I'm good, and I'm excited about our topic
because it seems to be coming.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Up a lot, like NonStop.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, so I think you know, were calling it Season
of Aliens because like you know, there's always a hot
girl summer like who that is? And now aliens are hot, so.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They totally are. And I don't read a lot in
the winter about aliens, by.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The way, right, But in summer, I think people are
watching the skies.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
More, I think, right, and they're visible.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, they're out, you know, so out.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And about Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So hot Alien summer, Hot alien summer.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Get your green swimsuits ready.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
To roll, elongate your fingers like.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Used to said, hot Dogs? Did you ever see everything
everywhere all at once?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, that's why I was saying.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Is that okay? I love that. That was so good
another culture Look at you, cultural reference. You're not gonna
make me soon.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm coming back. I'm coming strong.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's the Hot Dog Figures. It made me giggle so hard.
I love that movie. Yeah, anyway, not what we're talking about.
But we can't talk about alien movies all day, however, Yes,
what's different though? Now favorite?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I just have to say one of my favorite alien
movies Contact No, No, no No. I did love Contact No.
It's the other one. It's a rival with rival Amy Adams.
I watched that so many times. I love this watch
so much. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Everybody, for real, it's a beautiful episode on it. We
should but we could to read a chance to watch it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Who hasn't, Yeah, it's so good, and watch it again
if you have, and then you can thank us because
it's so good.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh my god, that's amazing. Maybe they'll thank us after
this episode for enlightening them on aliads.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
This season of Aliens is so good, right, because everything's
coming out people are talking about all the time. Well,
the last few years though, we started to see things
come out, like the videos from the government of the
different fighter pilots and things like that. Right, so we
kind of started with that, yep.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And then you know, and then came the everything was
a spacecraft, you know, because it's like, oh, there's this
was scene over blah blah blah blah. And then two
days later, well they found out the source of what
it was that they saw, but everything was a spaceship
or weather balloon or but but they call thought it
was a spaceship at first. This is different, though, Yeah,
(03:33):
this is different and you found it, and I like
all the credit in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, you know, I just it made me giggle, so
I sent it to you.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh okay, yeah, because aliens are humorous, they can't be,
I guess. But what I think is interesting about this,
like it's different when like your friend's mom tells you
that they saw a spaceship when they were a kid,
versus somebody who's a phdu right, And that's what we're
(04:07):
dealing with now. This credibility to what we're going to
talk about, and this is dis ebody knows. This is
out of an article from Popular Mechanics about a doctor
named Gary Nolan, So just everybody has a reference point,
and he is a professor at Stanford. But before we
(04:28):
get to that, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That Stanford School of Medicine, Yes, I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I agreed, But I think what's really interesting too, is
things become really real when you have authority, figures, trusted
scientists that talk about these subjects. Right, it doesn't feel
so conspiracy theory, you know, it feels very real. And
(04:56):
I liken it to many lives. The Masters actually by
doctor Brian Wiss, and I think one of the reasons
that his book was believed and became such a massive
hit was the credibility of his work. And to your
point in our pre talk, it's kind of like pre dinner.
It's like a snack before dinner. So like we talked
(05:17):
before we you know, it's like a pre dinner, so
you use appetizers, appetizers, call them pre dinner. But but
your point about Brian, about doctor Brian Weiss, which I
think is going to be the same case for doctor
Gary Nolan, is they put their reputation on the line. Yeah, right,
(05:39):
And so how do you not believe? Right? Because the
whole thing now is anybody can say anything they want
to on the Internet because they can do it, you know,
under the cloak of darkness. You don't know who it is,
but they can start rumors and all of that. But
when you have people with a really incredible education, a
(06:01):
practice that they've had for years, or that they've done,
and like this guy that we'll talk about, Gary is
definitely has experienced that, it's hard to disbelieve, right.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And and he you know, he's a PhD at Stanford
and he doesn't he's not trying to make a name
of himself here, right, He has a lot to lose.
He's not trying to gain anything. He actually has a
lot to lose, and he's being generous with his expertise
since coming forward and it's a game changer.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And his guts to come out for this kind of
stuff for what he's done, and again, incredibly successful. Man.
I think he has like forty patents yeah on things.
I mean, like he is. He's not a slub, right,
He's like the real deal. So sure he does. So
min don't we take a quick break and let's go
talk about what he's telling us in this article and.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Take a look at his published work. It's exciting and
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Thanks every time, seriously, every time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm an easy audience.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You are such a creature of forgetting every time that
we do this.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So doctor Gary, okay, so what do we know about
doctor Gary?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
What's he doing? Bring it?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay, I'm gonna get little nerdy on y'all, and I'm
probably gonna read some stuff direct from the article. But
I just want again for everybody to know it's in
Popular Mechanics if you want to read it. The title.
It was actually published on May twenty three, and it
said the title is aliens are probably using drones and
AI to spy on us. Stanford Professor says, So everybody knows.
(07:52):
We just sourced our conversation here. So it's it's this guy.
Just I'm gonna talk a little bit about him because
he has actually worked for the intelligence community and defense contractors.
So defense contractors, there's kind of two different type of
(08:13):
defense contractors. Are the ones that you have down on
the space coast that make missiles and things like that.
Then you actually have contractors weirdly here in New Mexico
that are more of the nuclear contractors. FYI, Okay, So
he's worked with these and what he says, he believes
(08:33):
that aliens have not only visited Earth, but they have
also probably been here for thousands of years. And the
thing is explains a lot, by the way, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It does explain a lot. And I don't think anyone pyramids. Yeah,
if you're looking at a lot from lay lines, like
I mean, you can't. You can connect so much stuff
to this, but like you don't come out and say
as something like that if you're a PhD unless you
have some data.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Correct, Yeah, correct, and he does, I mean he yeah,
So we'll get that in just a second. So what's
interesting is that he, like you said, he is actually
part of the school of Medicine. He is the he's
in the department of Pathology, which will actually help us
understand some of his his his findings here and right right.
(09:27):
And the reason this is out is because he is
part there's a global leadership former New York City called
the Pentagon Extraterrestrial Intelligence and crash UFOs.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Is that not the best title for something?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean kind of but they could use some marketing
help with that, I know.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But it's like so a nerdy and you don't expect
those two things to land in the same headline. Correct, Correct,
That's why I liked it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Correct. But what's interesting is that at this there are
nerds like him. There's policy makers, there's investors, because God knows,
this is America and if aliens are coming, they're going
to find a way to make money.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
There's a there's a way to make a dime.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, exactly right. So anyway he is, he's convinced that
they are still here. The first thing that he mentioned,
which I think is really interesting, is he called it
is called the Wow signal, which is an incredibly strong
signal that Ohio State University boom brenda totally. They have
(10:40):
what's called a big ear telescope, and there was something
that was detected in nineteen seventy seven that lasted about
a minute and appeared to originate from somewhere in the
direction of Sagittarius, which I really like the fact that
they're talking about the difference constellations out there.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's a planet, Sagittaries, Yeah, well I mean constellation.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah. Well it's like a yeah, it holds like.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The energy like a planet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah. Okay, it's a house like it holds the energy.
Yeah yeah, but it's and it holds the energy of
long term travel. That's what I love. So like the
signal track.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's amazing, a really long way. Yeah, that's amazing. So
this evidence of this wow. And if you guys can
go look at this article, you'll see the letters and
numbers of why, yeah, the sequence of why they called
it the Wow. There's some of course at the time
(11:43):
it was nineteen seventy seven, of course that they were
claiming it may have come from a comet or something
like that. But those are the chicken shits that said.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That, Well, it's also seventy seven. They didn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Right exactly, and chicken shit. Although before that, let's be honest,
that before that is when I think it was the
Air Force wanted to blow up the Moon that I
talked about, how they wanted to blow up the moon
so stupid. You know that came up not that long ago.
I know, some other asshole, some policy guys, some congress
person or whatever. We used to blop them out. I'm like, god, y'all,
(12:15):
we've been through this once before. So anyway, oh my god.
So what's interesting is that there's an interviewer who was
up there with doctor Nolan and said, he finds it
tough to believe, right, like these signals would be coming
(12:37):
from like an alien source and without hesitation. And that's
what I like about this guy, he goes. When pushed
about the probability that aliens have already visited Earth, Nolan
replied without hesitation on Yeah, I mean, he was like,
he's a scientist, but for real explained stuff. Yeah, Like, uh,
(13:02):
I think the pyramids, I think the lay lines, I
think that Stonehenge, right, Like there's the Mayan Pyramids. Like
there's so much.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right and even you know, the glyphs that we find
and where we find them, like and from crop circles
like things things that you know we discovered here on
the ground that have been here for a long long
time but only could have been planned out if you
were in an aerial position.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Correct, right, that's right. Yeah, you know this. We have
tons of petroglyphs here. I mean, it's petri glyphs all
over the world, and I think it's really fascinating about it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And I just want to be clear when you say
here you actually talking about Santa Fe.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
New Mexico. Yeah right, not just Earth. Yeah, not just Earth,
that's fair. But my here now changes to all of Earth,
which is you know the circle, the spiral of life.
You know that we actually put out our house. Yeah, No,
to circle, the spirally thing. No, it's a spirally one
(14:10):
that's born geometric, and it's what we actually put in
the cement in our library in our new house, our
new old house. That's a cemetery. But what's interesting, because
I did a lot of research on that, and what's
fascinating is these things have been dated to thousands of
years ago and they have found that symbol all over
(14:31):
the world. Right, So somebody tell me explain that, right,
you can't except aliens. Okay, So continuing here, we obviously
like this topic a lot too. We have fun with it.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We totally do. Let me see here, I'm going to find.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Scary.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, I'm going to find. Okay, So about him again,
specifically is that this is not a guy who's known
to make wild statements on a stage, right. This is
a man who's a decorated academic. He has a PhD
in genetics. He's published over three hundred research articles. He
(15:12):
holds forty patents in addition to his academic work. He
found eight biotech companies and has been honored as one
of the top twenty five investors at Stanford. Seriously hate
no slouch smarty pants, right, So I just like want
to go back to that. I think it's really important
that this is that this guy is the real deal. So,
(15:38):
and he's done interviews before, like the now shuttered Vice
News the IC. He did a whole article for those guys.
And it's interesting because it leads into kind of the
(15:58):
the effects of what aliens leave behind. So he's used
MRIs to look at people, He's looked at different symptoms.
He even like the best example, in a horrifying way,
I say best is that Nolan told Vice that the
brains of some of these pilots, Right, So these pilots
(16:19):
who've gotten close to supposed u aps, we tell you
to what U A p is because you told me earlier.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh I found it. It's aerial project phenomena and aerial phenomena.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Okay, yeah, so because you know, a few years ago
we got the whole, the whole dump of all the
videos of pilots. So what he told Vice was that
he went to research actually on the humans that were
close enough right into the I guess the orbit of
the alien stuff in the U A p Yeah, stuff
(16:54):
and things sounds really good. And what he told Vice
was that the brains of some of these pilots had
been horribly, horribly damaged, comparing the level of atrophy or
gradual loss of brain volume to those who suffer from
multiple sclerosis. Right, it's or lesions all over the brain
(17:17):
by the right, this hardness, thickness.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's and like the pilots will report like I just
I went to chase it to see what it was like.
They thought maybe it's Russia or something like. They want
to know what this what this craft was, so they
wanted to be able to report back. They didn't know
that get they didn't understand that getting close to it
would be dangerous to them, right, I mean other than
(17:43):
being shot at it or something. But they didn't know.
They couldn't imagine that just the proximity. And we're not
talking like within thirty feet, right, I mean you don't
get that close to it, right to aircraft, right, So
you're still at half mile distance or something, and it's
you know, it's danger the radiation from it. So it's
a really big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
So hindsight is kind of no surprise. Yeah, it's just
that people don't believe that's what it is. But now
here's the proof of this doctor. Right. He also so
he not only went in and studied the pilots right
who got close, he actually went into and started looking
at the eyewitnesses that would see these things from the ground, right,
(18:26):
And he said that they have a smorgus board of
symptoms and stated that one individual had been harmed at
Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
People, Oh, I remember that that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Episode Skinwalker Ranch, Give us our cows.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Back right where they actually he ended one of the
branch workers and ended up in the emergency room a
couple of times. Right.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, And so those that don't know about Skinwalker Ranch,
there's a show on the on your television machine or
your computer machine about a private ranch that was actually
bought by an investor, like he was like a Morgan
Stanley guy or something like that. Here's what I've learned.
People have a lot, a lot of money when they're
left with nothing else. They either want to make movies
(19:11):
or they buy paranormal ranches. They just do they just
do shit. They just do other shit, you know, cemeteries
or cemeteries. I don't have that much money, but one
of these days maybe I will and I'll buy more cemeteries.
So because what he found was that that there's an
unusual ratio with these people of radioactive radioactive isotopes. In fact,
(19:37):
they found a sample of magnesium from an alleged us
a UFO explosion in Brazil. You said you saw that
you saw something on that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean, yeah, I did not see, you know, explosion,
but there was a I think it's on Amazon, but
it's it's the talking to people who are Swibers. They
went to the location. It was you know, people who
saw they were children when this happened, but they saw
alien beings and you know that they were swept away.
(20:08):
I mean they actually said. The story they told is
that American government came in to grab the bodies because
the Brazilian government didn't know what to do with it,
so they called in the US. Whether that's true or not,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But that I like it. Let's go with them. Okay,
because this guy also claims. What's really interesting, and I'm
going to hit on this at the in the next segment,
is there are people who are trying to reverse engineer
this UAP technology. Imagine what happens, right if they actually
like what they say is is that if that is
(20:46):
truly something that is possible to be done on this planet,
that it will make Silicon Valley look like a tea party, right,
because the technology is so much more advanced they believe.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, but I don't think they could because everyone told
talks about the materials from the ships is being so
foreign to us. That's my point, right, I don't think
they can do that. I don't think we have the
materials here. Because they talk about how if you bend
it it goes back to shape, you can collapse it
and it'll expand again.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
You know things like that that I get a story
on that.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Okay, we'll talk that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's crazy, right, Let's talk about that when we come back.
We will talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And welcome back. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
So now I want to hear your story.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay, so this is really weird as shit. So my
new home state absolutely love whether it's the seven thousand
year old petroglyphs that we have all over the state
or if it's our a little cute town called Roswell, Ah,
(22:00):
New Mexico, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
All right, So to say what Roswell is in case
people don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Roswell they believe was the site of a very large
UFO crash. There's been movies, by the way about it
and about how the American military actually had some alien
bodies and alien technology that is like like in a
bunker under underground where they're running test and all these things,
(22:29):
and there is a US military presence there and no
one is allowed. In fact, didn't they like a year
or two. I've lost ib on COVID calendar. Yeah, completely
lost track. But there was some stuff going on where
all these people were going to rush Roswell, like try
to break the gates down, some stupid ass shit like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, that was right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, So that's Roswell, y'all. And if you've ever. If
you've ever been, you'll know what I'm talking about. If
you haven't been that, they have restaurants and souvenir shops
that are like alien themed. It's really fun, by the way,
it really is. But I get a kick out of Roswell.
It's very playful, right.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
There's also a show that used to be on the
CW called Roswell New Mexico. I am not kidding, and
I yeah, I did watch that over COVID. It's a
great little show. Look kind of a teeny bopper thing
and how half of them are aliens and their mission
and blah blah. But one of the main characters, her
father owns like an ice cream or like a little diner,
(23:35):
and you see all the space stuff. It's just really fun.
So that's I mean, in essence Roswell. Okay, so funny thing.
Of course, it's about my house because it's what my
life right revolves around. Right now is this old new
house or new old house. And I went to a
(23:57):
place in Albuquerque called Range would Reclaimers. By the way,
they have great stuff, so call them, call Claudia. She's great.
So I wanted to get I wanted to get some
flooring for the casita, and I wanted to get reclaimed.
So I'm trying to, you know, because it's such a
cool house. I want to reclaim as much as we can, right,
(24:19):
and so we we bought two kinds of wood. The
first one is actually reclaimed from an old polo field
by the way, not far from Roswell. But it's called Pietown,
New Mexico. So naturally, if I mean it's pie, y'all,
you know how I feel about pie. So we do.
We do. So she had and they all had, and
(24:40):
all the the the places that they have taken down
deconstructed to offer it to people as you know, reclaimed
would they all have stories. So that's kind of the
Pietown story.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It's oh cool. I have to apologize Lulu Is. It's
close to her.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
She's letting me know to tell her. I'm hurrying. Aunt
Julie's hurry. Aunt elf is hurrying. She's landing the Yeah,
I'm land the plane. I promisedly lived. So when I
when Susanna and I were walking around the.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Come on, I don't even get like the pun, the
cute pun. I'm landing the plane.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh my god, that was so good. I missed it. Shit, Sorry,
can I have penance for that? I apologize. So as
Claudia is taking Susannah, Susanna and I around, there's this other.
She goes, Oh, I have to show you this other
from a barn. I go, well, let's go look, so
we go over the shows. I have to tell you
(25:35):
the story. She goes, we have named this the alien would.
I go, oh, you have have you? And she goes,
of course, I'm my My interest is peaking and Susansy
don't say anything else. She already bought it, like you
just said alien. And I'm pretty sure I saw the
checkbook come out. So I said, continue, tell me more
about this so called alien wood. And right, she goes.
(25:59):
It was an old barn, like back when they kind
of claimed that the like around the time when the
spaceship crashed. So it's right outside of Roswell and.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
She goes.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The story goes, is the guy that owned the barn
after the crash found exactly what the fuck you just
talked about? A piece of metal that kept I know,
I know, I mean, how'd you know kept rolling up?
He would try to flatten it and it would roll
back up again. He kept doing this over and over
and over, wanting to flat it would not it would
(26:31):
always go back to the original form in which he
found it. Then the guy takes it to all I
got was authorities. I don't know what that means, Like,
I don't know if you took it to government. My
guess is he probably took it to government location or something.
Two weeks later, he shows up as the town drunk,
(26:52):
traumatized by whatever the hell he experienced, either how he
was treated, what he saw, what he learned, whatever it was.
He ended up becoming the town drunk. So I bought
the town drunks alien Wood. Interesting that is why? Uh huh, Well,
do you know what they do to people that are
(27:13):
witnesses to unexplained events? Well, that's I mean, this was yeah,
not far from it, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean that's what they That's what they told. That's
what people said about the Brazil.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You know, they killed the witnesses. Yeah, this guy, he
just he became the town drunk effectively and was never
the same after. As the story goes, And I'm telling you,
these people and Roswell full on believe all of this,
and I full on think they're right. Yeah, I really
do it seems in our pea brains sometimes it's like,
(27:51):
how could this be? But if you spend time with
it and you know enough about kind of what we're learning,
you're like, well, of course it's true. Yeah, you know,
of course it's true. So that is so I have
a piece of that whole thing that is going to
be built into a corner shelf in the casino specifically nice. Nice,
(28:17):
But that's that's recent. Like this literally, I learned this
a month ago, and here we are having this conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, weird, right, Yeah, that's really interesting. And I was
telling you that we Lula and I were walking in
the park this morning and there was a car with
a thumper sticker that said Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I was like yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And the funny thing is we did not agree at
that time to talk about it. You had just sent
me the article and because we like you do and
we haven't connect because you were in Mexico and doing
all your woo woo magic ship as I'm over here
trying to figure out my cemetery I bought. We're two
very odd humans. I'm bringing you with me, lady, uh
(29:05):
but still synced up, but totally sink and the fact
that you saw that and probably and not long after that,
I think I texted you and said, I think we
should talk about this today. Yeah, and it's after you
saw the Skinwalker ranch. So it's just weird, weirdly awesome
though little lined up right, lind Up.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But I also think like the fact that as you
were becoming spiritually like spirit awareness and taking all those
thousands of photos, right when you saw the aliens, you're like,
huh yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Mean, I've all I believe there's no question. We've talked
about this on past episodes that I have photographs of
gray aliens in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Which they're not are they in the book?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah there is because that's my that's my memory.
But I was like, you know, sometimes I put things where.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
They don't write your organizational skills are yes, yeah, understand,
that's why, Grandmarly, That's why. But but I did I
had you know, I I have photographs of gray aliens.
I also read the books that I've mentioned before. I
can't remember her name, Oh my god, I can see
her face though, uh that writes about the grays and
(30:18):
how she was had a roommate and she walked in
and the Grays were like tossing the house very much
believe her. I've had people in my life from different,
completely different walks of life, like there's they've never spoken before,
different ages and and and everything that have told me
I hear LULUs so cute. Hi, I know, mother, I'm hungry.
Tell Anne stf you uncle el So. But have have
(30:48):
told me stories and like full on stories about seeing
spaceships full on and people who haven't told no one
because they knew they would be ridiculed by people. But
they knew I wouldn't because I don't know me. Why
would I ridicule you about Stanta spaceship, about a cemetery,
pH you took phonographs and a cemetery. You can tell
me anything. I'm probably gonna believe you. So it's just
(31:13):
so weird. So yeah, I just think it's interesting on
how there's this evolution that is happening where we've gone
from just people nothing we shouldn't have believed them, but
people in their own self report. Then we moved to
the government. Now we're moving to academia. And it's interesting
to just note that, and if you're interested, it is
(31:35):
certainly worth reading this article, and even looking at some
of the things we've talked about, like the videos that
were released a few years ago from the military, it
is it feels far more real in the normal earthly way.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Which is it's coming into the zeitgeist, right, And yes,
hot hot alien summer.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Hot hot alien summer, exactly right. Get your green swimsuit, folks.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So that's our invitation to expand your thought process for now,
and thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And remember, yeah, our school's hard without aliens. But I
just want to say really quick, I do you like
how I did? That is, if you have stories, if
there's things that you want to like share, or if
you even't even want to talk about them on a show,
reach out to us and let us know, because we
get more questions from y'all about this topic more than anything.
(32:33):
I mean, you'd think you would want to, like, I
don't know, meditate and be calm. No, you don't. You
want to about fucking aliens. So if you have information,
if you have things you want to share, tell us
to share it. Or if you have great stories, you know,
we'll figure out a time to get you on. So
I just want to offer that because I think it's
it's a lot of interest for folks.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Thanks hell, thanks for wichipo. I love you and all
the aliens, and remember erschool's hard without the other side
and aliens. All right, y'all, thank you for listening. I'm
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, for
in Earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
That let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh, holy shit, do we have
a show by you for everybody else? Let's try to
make it rhyme. In fact, if anybody wants to reach
out to an Instagram and give you some better witchypoo rhymes,
I'm open, give me something.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm good. I'm good, and I'm excited about our topic
because it seems to be coming.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Up a lot, like NonStop.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, so I think you know, were calling it Season
of Aliens because like you know, there's always a hot
girl summer like who that is? And now aliens are hot, so.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
They totally are. And I don't read a lot in
the winter about aliens, by.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The way, right, But in summer, I think people are
watching the skies.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
More, I think, right, and they're visible.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, they're out, you know, so out.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And about Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So hot Alien summer, Hot alien summer.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Get your green swimsuits ready.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
To roll, elongate your fingers like.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Used to said, hot Dogs? Did you ever see everything
everywhere all at once?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, that's why I was saying.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Is that okay? I love that. That was so good
another culture Look at you, cultural reference. You're not gonna
make me soon.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm coming back. I'm coming strong.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's the Hot Dog Figures. It made me giggle so hard.
I love that movie. Yeah, anyway, not what we're talking about.
But we can't talk about alien movies all day, however, Yes,
what's different though? Now favorite?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I just have to say one of my favorite alien
movies Contact No, No, no No. I did love Contact No.
It's the other one. It's a rival with rival Amy Adams.
I watched that so many times. I love this watch
so much. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Everybody, for real, it's a beautiful episode on it. We
should but we could to read a chance to watch it.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Who hasn't, Yeah, it's so good, and watch it again
if you have, and then you can thank us because
it's so good.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Oh my god, that's amazing. Maybe they'll thank us after
this episode for enlightening them on aliads.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
This season of Aliens is so good, right, because everything's
coming out people are talking about all the time. Well,
the last few years though, we started to see things
come out, like the videos from the government of the
different fighter pilots and things like that. Right, so we
kind of started with that, yep.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And then you know, and then came the everything was
a spacecraft, you know, because it's like, oh, there's this
was scene over blah blah blah blah. And then two
days later, well they found out the source of what
it was that they saw, but everything was a spaceship
or weather balloon or but but they call thought it
was a spaceship at first. This is different, though, Yeah,
(03:33):
this is different and you found it, and I like
all the credit in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, you know, I just it made me giggle, so
I sent it to you.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh okay, yeah, because aliens are humorous, they can't be,
I guess. But what I think is interesting about this,
like it's different when like your friend's mom tells you
that they saw a spaceship when they were a kid,
versus somebody who's a phdu right, And that's what we're
(04:07):
dealing with now. This credibility to what we're going to
talk about, and this is dis ebody knows. This is
out of an article from Popular Mechanics about a doctor
named Gary Nolan, So just everybody has a reference point,
and he is a professor at Stanford. But before we
(04:28):
get to that, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That Stanford School of Medicine, Yes, I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I agreed, But I think what's really interesting too, is
things become really real when you have authority, figures, trusted
scientists that talk about these subjects. Right, it doesn't feel
so conspiracy theory, you know, it feels very real. And
(04:56):
I liken it to many lives. The Masters actually by
doctor Brian Wiss, and I think one of the reasons
that his book was believed and became such a massive
hit was the credibility of his work. And to your
point in our pre talk, it's kind of like pre dinner.
It's like a snack before dinner. So like we talked
(05:17):
before we you know, it's like a pre dinner, so
you use appetizers, appetizers, call them pre dinner. But but
your point about Brian, about doctor Brian Weiss, which I
think is going to be the same case for doctor
Gary Nolan, is they put their reputation on the line. Yeah, right,
(05:39):
And so how do you not believe? Right? Because the
whole thing now is anybody can say anything they want
to on the Internet because they can do it, you know,
under the cloak of darkness. You don't know who it is,
but they can start rumors and all of that. But
when you have people with a really incredible education, a
(06:01):
practice that they've had for years, or that they've done,
and like this guy that we'll talk about, Gary is
definitely has experienced that, it's hard to disbelieve, right.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And and he you know, he's a PhD at Stanford
and he doesn't he's not trying to make a name
of himself here, right, He has a lot to lose.
He's not trying to gain anything. He actually has a
lot to lose, and he's being generous with his expertise
since coming forward and it's a game changer.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And his guts to come out for this kind of
stuff for what he's done, and again, incredibly successful. Man.
I think he has like forty patents yeah on things.
I mean, like he is. He's not a slub, right,
He's like the real deal. So sure he does. So
min don't we take a quick break and let's go
talk about what he's telling us in this article and.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Take a look at his published work. It's exciting and
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Thanks every time, seriously, every time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm an easy audience.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You are such a creature of forgetting every time that
we do this.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So doctor Gary, okay, so what do we know about
doctor Gary?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
What's he doing? Bring it?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Okay, I'm gonna get little nerdy on y'all, and I'm
probably gonna read some stuff direct from the article. But
I just want again for everybody to know it's in
Popular Mechanics if you want to read it. The title.
It was actually published on May twenty three, and it
said the title is aliens are probably using drones and
AI to spy on us. Stanford Professor says, So everybody knows.
(07:52):
We just sourced our conversation here. So it's it's this guy.
Just I'm gonna talk a little bit about him because
he has actually worked for the intelligence community and defense contractors.
So defense contractors, there's kind of two different type of
(08:13):
defense contractors. Are the ones that you have down on
the space coast that make missiles and things like that.
Then you actually have contractors weirdly here in New Mexico
that are more of the nuclear contractors. FYI, Okay, So
he's worked with these and what he says, he believes
(08:33):
that aliens have not only visited Earth, but they have
also probably been here for thousands of years. And the
thing is explains a lot, by the way, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
It does explain a lot. And I don't think anyone pyramids. Yeah,
if you're looking at a lot from lay lines, like
I mean, you can't. You can connect so much stuff
to this, but like you don't come out and say
as something like that if you're a PhD unless you
have some data.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Correct, Yeah, correct, and he does, I mean he yeah,
So we'll get that in just a second. So what's
interesting is that he, like you said, he is actually
part of the school of Medicine. He is the he's
in the department of Pathology, which will actually help us
understand some of his his his findings here and right right.
(09:27):
And the reason this is out is because he is
part there's a global leadership former New York City called
the Pentagon Extraterrestrial Intelligence and crash UFOs.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Is that not the best title for something?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean kind of but they could use some marketing
help with that, I know.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But it's like so a nerdy and you don't expect
those two things to land in the same headline. Correct, Correct,
That's why I liked it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Correct. But what's interesting is that at this there are
nerds like him. There's policy makers, there's investors, because God knows,
this is America and if aliens are coming, they're going
to find a way to make money.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
There's a there's a way to make a dime.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, exactly right. So anyway he is, he's convinced that
they are still here. The first thing that he mentioned,
which I think is really interesting, is he called it
is called the Wow signal, which is an incredibly strong
signal that Ohio State University boom brenda totally. They have
(10:40):
what's called a big ear telescope, and there was something
that was detected in nineteen seventy seven that lasted about
a minute and appeared to originate from somewhere in the
direction of Sagittarius, which I really like the fact that
they're talking about the difference constellations out there.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's a planet, Sagittaries, Yeah, well I mean constellation.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah. Well it's like a yeah, it holds like.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The energy like a planet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah. Okay, it's a house like it holds the energy.
Yeah yeah, but it's and it holds the energy of
long term travel. That's what I love. So like the
signal track.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's amazing, a really long way. Yeah, that's amazing. So
this evidence of this wow. And if you guys can
go look at this article, you'll see the letters and
numbers of why, yeah, the sequence of why they called
it the Wow. There's some of course at the time
(11:43):
it was nineteen seventy seven, of course that they were
claiming it may have come from a comet or something
like that. But those are the chicken shits that said.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That, Well, it's also seventy seven. They didn't know anything.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Right exactly, and chicken shit. Although before that, let's be honest,
that before that is when I think it was the
Air Force wanted to blow up the Moon that I
talked about, how they wanted to blow up the moon
so stupid. You know that came up not that long ago.
I know, some other asshole, some policy guys, some congress
person or whatever. We used to blop them out. I'm like, god, y'all,
(12:15):
we've been through this once before. So anyway, oh my god.
So what's interesting is that there's an interviewer who was
up there with doctor Nolan and said, he finds it
tough to believe, right, like these signals would be coming
(12:37):
from like an alien source and without hesitation. And that's
what I like about this guy, he goes. When pushed
about the probability that aliens have already visited Earth, Nolan
replied without hesitation on Yeah, I mean, he was like,
he's a scientist, but for real explained stuff. Yeah, Like, uh,
(13:02):
I think the pyramids, I think the lay lines, I
think that Stonehenge, right, Like there's the Mayan Pyramids. Like
there's so much.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right and even you know, the glyphs that we find
and where we find them, like and from crop circles
like things things that you know we discovered here on
the ground that have been here for a long long
time but only could have been planned out if you
were in an aerial position.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Correct, right, that's right. Yeah, you know this. We have
tons of petroglyphs here. I mean, it's petri glyphs all
over the world, and I think it's really fascinating about it.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And I just want to be clear when you say
here you actually talking about Santa Fe.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
New Mexico. Yeah right, not just Earth. Yeah, not just Earth,
that's fair. But my here now changes to all of Earth,
which is you know the circle, the spiral of life.
You know that we actually put out our house. Yeah, No,
to circle, the spirally thing. No, it's a spirally one
(14:10):
that's born geometric, and it's what we actually put in
the cement in our library in our new house, our
new old house. That's a cemetery. But what's interesting, because
I did a lot of research on that, and what's
fascinating is these things have been dated to thousands of
years ago and they have found that symbol all over
(14:31):
the world. Right, So somebody tell me explain that, right,
you can't except aliens. Okay, So continuing here, we obviously
like this topic a lot too. We have fun with it.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We totally do. Let me see here, I'm going to find.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Scary.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, I'm going to find. Okay, So about him again,
specifically is that this is not a guy who's known
to make wild statements on a stage, right. This is
a man who's a decorated academic. He has a PhD
in genetics. He's published over three hundred research articles. He
(15:12):
holds forty patents in addition to his academic work. He
found eight biotech companies and has been honored as one
of the top twenty five investors at Stanford. Seriously hate
no slouch smarty pants, right, So I just like want
to go back to that. I think it's really important
that this is that this guy is the real deal. So,
(15:38):
and he's done interviews before, like the now shuttered Vice
News the IC. He did a whole article for those guys.
And it's interesting because it leads into kind of the
(15:58):
the effects of what aliens leave behind. So he's used
MRIs to look at people, He's looked at different symptoms.
He even like the best example, in a horrifying way,
I say best is that Nolan told Vice that the
brains of some of these pilots, Right, So these pilots
(16:19):
who've gotten close to supposed u aps, we tell you
to what U A p is because you told me earlier.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh I found it. It's aerial project phenomena and aerial phenomena.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Okay, yeah, so because you know, a few years ago
we got the whole, the whole dump of all the
videos of pilots. So what he told Vice was that
he went to research actually on the humans that were
close enough right into the I guess the orbit of
the alien stuff in the U A p Yeah, stuff
(16:54):
and things sounds really good. And what he told Vice
was that the brains of some of these pilots had
been horribly, horribly damaged, comparing the level of atrophy or
gradual loss of brain volume to those who suffer from
multiple sclerosis. Right, it's or lesions all over the brain
(17:17):
by the right, this hardness, thickness.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's and like the pilots will report like I just
I went to chase it to see what it was like.
They thought maybe it's Russia or something like. They want
to know what this what this craft was, so they
wanted to be able to report back. They didn't know
that get they didn't understand that getting close to it
would be dangerous to them, right, I mean other than
(17:43):
being shot at it or something. But they didn't know.
They couldn't imagine that just the proximity. And we're not
talking like within thirty feet, right, I mean you don't
get that close to it, right to aircraft, right, So
you're still at half mile distance or something, and it's
you know, it's danger the radiation from it. So it's
a really big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
So hindsight is kind of no surprise. Yeah, it's just
that people don't believe that's what it is. But now
here's the proof of this doctor. Right. He also so
he not only went in and studied the pilots right
who got close, he actually went into and started looking
at the eyewitnesses that would see these things from the ground, right,
(18:26):
And he said that they have a smorgus board of
symptoms and stated that one individual had been harmed at
Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
People, Oh, I remember that that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Episode Skinwalker Ranch, Give us our cows.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Back right where they actually he ended one of the
branch workers and ended up in the emergency room a
couple of times. Right.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, And so those that don't know about Skinwalker Ranch,
there's a show on the on your television machine or
your computer machine about a private ranch that was actually
bought by an investor, like he was like a Morgan
Stanley guy or something like that. Here's what I've learned.
People have a lot, a lot of money when they're
left with nothing else. They either want to make movies
(19:11):
or they buy paranormal ranches. They just do they just
do shit. They just do other shit, you know, cemeteries
or cemeteries. I don't have that much money, but one
of these days maybe I will and I'll buy more cemeteries.
So because what he found was that that there's an
unusual ratio with these people of radioactive radioactive isotopes. In fact,
(19:37):
they found a sample of magnesium from an alleged us
a UFO explosion in Brazil. You said you saw that
you saw something on that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I mean, yeah, I did not see, you know, explosion,
but there was a I think it's on Amazon, but
it's it's the talking to people who are Swibers. They
went to the location. It was you know, people who
saw they were children when this happened, but they saw
alien beings and you know that they were swept away.
(20:08):
I mean they actually said. The story they told is
that American government came in to grab the bodies because
the Brazilian government didn't know what to do with it,
so they called in the US. Whether that's true or not,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
But that I like it. Let's go with them. Okay,
because this guy also claims. What's really interesting, and I'm
going to hit on this at the in the next segment,
is there are people who are trying to reverse engineer
this UAP technology. Imagine what happens, right if they actually
like what they say is is that if that is
(20:46):
truly something that is possible to be done on this planet,
that it will make Silicon Valley look like a tea party, right,
because the technology is so much more advanced they believe.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, but I don't think they could because everyone told
talks about the materials from the ships is being so
foreign to us. That's my point, right, I don't think
they can do that. I don't think we have the
materials here. Because they talk about how if you bend
it it goes back to shape, you can collapse it
and it'll expand again.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
You know things like that that I get a story
on that.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Okay, we'll talk that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's crazy, right, Let's talk about that when we come back.
We will talk about it when we come back.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And welcome back. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
So now I want to hear your story.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay, so this is really weird as shit. So my
new home state absolutely love whether it's the seven thousand
year old petroglyphs that we have all over the state
or if it's our a little cute town called Roswell, Ah,
(22:00):
New Mexico, y'all.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
All right, So to say what Roswell is in case
people don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Roswell they believe was the site of a very large
UFO crash. There's been movies, by the way about it
and about how the American military actually had some alien
bodies and alien technology that is like like in a
bunker under underground where they're running test and all these things,
(22:29):
and there is a US military presence there and no
one is allowed. In fact, didn't they like a year
or two. I've lost ib on COVID calendar. Yeah, completely
lost track. But there was some stuff going on where
all these people were going to rush Roswell, like try
to break the gates down, some stupid ass shit like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, that was right.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, So that's Roswell, y'all. And if you've ever. If
you've ever been, you'll know what I'm talking about. If
you haven't been that, they have restaurants and souvenir shops
that are like alien themed. It's really fun, by the way,
it really is. But I get a kick out of Roswell.
It's very playful, right.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
There's also a show that used to be on the
CW called Roswell New Mexico. I am not kidding, and
I yeah, I did watch that over COVID. It's a
great little show. Look kind of a teeny bopper thing
and how half of them are aliens and their mission
and blah blah. But one of the main characters, her
father owns like an ice cream or like a little diner,
(23:35):
and you see all the space stuff. It's just really fun.
So that's I mean, in essence Roswell. Okay, so funny thing.
Of course, it's about my house because it's what my
life right revolves around. Right now is this old new
house or new old house. And I went to a
(23:57):
place in Albuquerque called Range would Reclaimers. By the way,
they have great stuff, so call them, call Claudia. She's great.
So I wanted to get I wanted to get some
flooring for the casita, and I wanted to get reclaimed.
So I'm trying to, you know, because it's such a
cool house. I want to reclaim as much as we can, right,
(24:19):
and so we we bought two kinds of wood. The
first one is actually reclaimed from an old polo field
by the way, not far from Roswell. But it's called Pietown,
New Mexico. So naturally, if I mean it's pie, y'all,
you know how I feel about pie. So we do.
We do. So she had and they all had, and
(24:40):
all the the the places that they have taken down
deconstructed to offer it to people as you know, reclaimed
would they all have stories. So that's kind of the
Pietown story.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
It's oh cool. I have to apologize Lulu Is. It's
close to her.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
She's letting me know to tell her. I'm hurrying. Aunt
Julie's hurry. Aunt elf is hurrying. She's landing the Yeah,
I'm land the plane. I promisedly lived. So when I
when Susanna and I were walking around the.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Come on, I don't even get like the pun, the
cute pun. I'm landing the plane.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh my god, that was so good. I missed it. Shit, Sorry,
can I have penance for that? I apologize. So as
Claudia is taking Susannah, Susanna and I around, there's this other.
She goes, Oh, I have to show you this other
from a barn. I go, well, let's go look, so
we go over the shows. I have to tell you
(25:35):
the story. She goes, we have named this the alien would.
I go, oh, you have have you? And she goes,
of course, I'm my My interest is peaking and Susansy
don't say anything else. She already bought it, like you
just said alien. And I'm pretty sure I saw the
checkbook come out. So I said, continue, tell me more
about this so called alien wood. And right, she goes.
(25:59):
It was an old barn, like back when they kind
of claimed that the like around the time when the
spaceship crashed. So it's right outside of Roswell and.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
She goes.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
The story goes, is the guy that owned the barn
after the crash found exactly what the fuck you just
talked about? A piece of metal that kept I know,
I know, I mean, how'd you know kept rolling up?
He would try to flatten it and it would roll
back up again. He kept doing this over and over
and over, wanting to flat it would not it would
(26:31):
always go back to the original form in which he
found it. Then the guy takes it to all I
got was authorities. I don't know what that means, Like,
I don't know if you took it to government. My
guess is he probably took it to government location or something.
Two weeks later, he shows up as the town drunk,
(26:52):
traumatized by whatever the hell he experienced, either how he
was treated, what he saw, what he learned, whatever it was.
He ended up becoming the town drunk. So I bought
the town drunks alien Wood. Interesting that is why? Uh huh, Well,
do you know what they do to people that are
(27:13):
witnesses to unexplained events? Well, that's I mean, this was yeah,
not far from it, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean that's what they That's what they told. That's
what people said about the Brazil.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You know, they killed the witnesses. Yeah, this guy, he
just he became the town drunk effectively and was never
the same after. As the story goes, And I'm telling you,
these people and Roswell full on believe all of this,
and I full on think they're right. Yeah, I really
do it seems in our pea brains sometimes it's like,
(27:51):
how could this be? But if you spend time with
it and you know enough about kind of what we're learning,
you're like, well, of course it's true. Yeah, you know,
of course it's true. So that is so I have
a piece of that whole thing that is going to
be built into a corner shelf in the casino specifically nice. Nice,
(28:17):
But that's that's recent. Like this literally, I learned this
a month ago, and here we are having this conversation.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, weird, right, Yeah, that's really interesting. And I was
telling you that we Lula and I were walking in
the park this morning and there was a car with
a thumper sticker that said Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I was like yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And the funny thing is we did not agree at
that time to talk about it. You had just sent
me the article and because we like you do and
we haven't connect because you were in Mexico and doing
all your woo woo magic ship as I'm over here
trying to figure out my cemetery I bought. We're two
very odd humans. I'm bringing you with me, lady, uh
(29:05):
but still synced up, but totally sink and the fact
that you saw that and probably and not long after that,
I think I texted you and said, I think we
should talk about this today. Yeah, and it's after you
saw the Skinwalker ranch. So it's just weird, weirdly awesome
though little lined up right, lind Up.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
But I also think like the fact that as you
were becoming spiritually like spirit awareness and taking all those
thousands of photos, right when you saw the aliens, you're like,
huh yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Mean, I've all I believe there's no question. We've talked
about this on past episodes that I have photographs of
gray aliens in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Which they're not are they in the book?
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah there is because that's my that's my memory.
But I was like, you know, sometimes I put things where.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
They don't write your organizational skills are yes, yeah, understand,
that's why, Grandmarly, That's why. But but I did I
had you know, I I have photographs of gray aliens.
I also read the books that I've mentioned before. I
can't remember her name, Oh my god, I can see
her face though, uh that writes about the grays and
(30:18):
how she was had a roommate and she walked in
and the Grays were like tossing the house very much
believe her. I've had people in my life from different,
completely different walks of life, like there's they've never spoken before,
different ages and and and everything that have told me
I hear LULUs so cute. Hi, I know, mother, I'm hungry.
Tell Anne stf you uncle el So. But have have
(30:48):
told me stories and like full on stories about seeing
spaceships full on and people who haven't told no one
because they knew they would be ridiculed by people. But
they knew I wouldn't because I don't know me. Why
would I ridicule you about Stanta spaceship, about a cemetery,
pH you took phonographs and a cemetery. You can tell
me anything. I'm probably gonna believe you. So it's just
(31:13):
so weird. So yeah, I just think it's interesting on
how there's this evolution that is happening where we've gone
from just people nothing we shouldn't have believed them, but
people in their own self report. Then we moved to
the government. Now we're moving to academia. And it's interesting
to just note that, and if you're interested, it is
(31:35):
certainly worth reading this article, and even looking at some
of the things we've talked about, like the videos that
were released a few years ago from the military, it
is it feels far more real in the normal earthly way.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Which is it's coming into the zeitgeist, right, And yes,
hot hot alien summer.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Hot hot alien summer, exactly right. Get your green swimsuit, folks.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So that's our invitation to expand your thought process for now,
and thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And remember, yeah, our school's hard without aliens. But I
just want to say really quick, I do you like
how I did? That is, if you have stories, if
there's things that you want to like share, or if
you even't even want to talk about them on a show,
reach out to us and let us know, because we
get more questions from y'all about this topic more than anything.
(32:33):
I mean, you'd think you would want to, like, I
don't know, meditate and be calm. No, you don't. You
want to about fucking aliens. So if you have information,
if you have things you want to share, tell us
to share it. Or if you have great stories, you know,
we'll figure out a time to get you on. So
I just want to offer that because I think it's
it's a lot of interest for folks.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Thanks hell, thanks for wichipo. I love you and all
the aliens, and remember erschool's hard without the other side
and aliens. All right, y'all, thank you for listening. I'm
going to feed you and and Loula is going to
be fed just in case anybody who was wondering. Bye, everybody, Hi,
(33:16):
thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Everyone, and a special thanks to our producer Joey pat
and our executive producer Maya Cole Howard, who guides us.
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Speaker 1 (33:26):
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Speaker 2 (33:34):
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Speaker 1 (33:42):
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