January 3, 2024 • 29 mins
Welcome to our first episode of the New Year! Today we kick off 2024 with a series of existential questions certain to make your mind spin.
❓ What's the difference between infinite beings and old souls?
💫 Does a soul have a beginning?
🍷 Does it hover and chill til it's ready to re-emerge like a fine wine or perfect cheese?
Which of course leads one to wonder... IS there a beginning and an end? ♾️
The exploration of these great big questions leads to a conversation about the soul's journey, the myth of 'time', and the reality of a multiverse. Soul expansion and expression is our task here on Earth School, where the objective is to learn and channel our Divine Self. Put THAT on your New Year's Resolution list 😉
Because Earth School is hard, but your soul is limitless when you learn to follow its lead, guided and fully supported by the Other Side.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, for
in Earth school is hard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, hello, my witchy ophoo, what in the hell is
going on with you?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Just contemplating the universe as one does right?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, that and you know, stuggling with my dog.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No they're not. It's actually funny because you know, I
walked the gy every day in the neighborhood. That's how
I've met people, and we've made a lot of friends
and met a lot of other dogs. And there was
this woman who's so sweet. We were walking home and
this woman goes, aren't they just magnificent? Oh? And she goes,
(01:26):
aren't they just incredible. She's like, I just don't know
what I'd do without. I mean, she didn't even say
hello to me. It was like, it's just magnificent. And
it's like, yeah, they are. That's why I think that,
you know, Homer was once my dad. But that's a
whole other topic. They will get into. Well we've gotten into,
but you never know, we might get into it some
other time, maybe today again. Anyway, So we have an
(01:52):
amazing existential, mind blowing question and I have the best
listeners rights ever that are so thoughtful and so fun,
so fun, and it's you know, it's if you if
(02:15):
you sit quietly long enough and kind of think about
some of this, this is a really, I think, a really
magnificent question because you know, we we are here in
these these human suits and which limit sometimes us and
how we think, and so this was really impressive. So
(02:37):
without further ado, I will read this question from Jesse Kapp. Hey, guys,
I have a question. I promise I'm not high. Okay,
to be honest with you, it's like we actually wanted
to name this one. Hi. We're not high either, So
Jesse Ken, you know that was one of the options
(02:57):
that we were working with she goes on and says,
if everyone has always existed because we are infinite beings,
then how are their souls that are older than other souls?
So that's part one. There's lots of parts here, thank you, Jessica.
(03:22):
The other then she goes on and says, doesn't that
mean a soul has to have a beginning? Part two?
Great question? Or do the souls just chill out for
a few millennia while other souls get started first? But
then that goes back to their being a beginning, which
isn't a thing if everything is infinite. Help. Thanks love
(03:51):
Jesse kat Well, Jesse kat we love you. This is
a magnificent question that I mean, Listen, I've sat around
and wondered where was my beginning? Where did I start?
How early I'm aware of like some past live action
back in the Egyptian days, but like what it was,
(04:13):
Atlantis a part of it. It's all crazy stuff. And
then I think the whole new souls, which I actually
think people use. I know I'm still talking. I should
be stopping right now and let you know, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's such a great question, right, that's how you's a
great question. You can just around it, right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But here's what makes me crazy, is, uh, somehow humans
always try to find a way to be superior, and
people like to use an insult saying, oh, well, they're
just a young soul. You know. I've heard people say that,
or it's like, well, you know, I'm an old soul.
You know, that's like about as Kooth is saying I'm
(04:51):
a shaman. You know, you just saying it like that,
that's right, right, And so I think you know you
did as we were, you know, kind of prepping for this.
You actually did a little trick with me, asking me
a series of questions to make the point of kind
(05:12):
of soul soul level existence whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right time doesn't exist in soul age, is how I
would say it. So when you were coming at me
with these questions expanding.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Upon coming at you gently, coming up.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Just with curiosity, right, like what about this? And what
about this? And what about this? Right? An elf special
curiosity factor, And so that jesse Kat's beautiful questions spurred.
And what the analogy that I used, and again it's
just an analogy, but I asked you the question that said,
(05:49):
you know, at what point did you decide to declare
your interest and passion for marketing.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
When I was my first two years ago you Yeah,
I was in the journalism school yep.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay, and you're like, this is what I'm going to do.
Like this speaks to me, right, And I'm assuming that
you had peers who were also like, yeah, let's do that.
That's cool, let's do that. I did, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you change schools, right I did.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I went to SMU and then yeah, and when I
went there, I had already declared my major as advertising,
so yes.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And so you had new peers, right, that were also
interested in advertising, and so there they are peers because
you're in a structured program and you know, you're all
studying and having your own experience. But then you graduate
and you go out into the world, and when you're
(06:48):
in the world, you start taking assignments and roles and
working with different companies. And I'm sure at some point,
like you came back in contact with you or studying peers, correct.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I did. Yep. Still friends with some of them.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And some of them actually took work in marketing areas, correct, Yeah,
almost all of them, almost all of them. Okay, then
some of them did, right, some of them, did they
went on something else?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Law school?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But yes, a natural segue, but that's another podcast. Okay,
So you've got some peers, you know, and then you
kept accelerating and expanding your skill set as a marketer
as you went to different industries and different companies and
different markets across the globe. Yes, right, And so some
(07:39):
of those souls or people who were your peers at
OU or SMU, did they perform at the same levels
in the same organizations, in the same industries as.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You, not necessarily, No, not all of them. Yeah you
did really well.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Okay, so suddenly we have what
can look like. And again I want to be really
clear when we're talking about sole expression, we're not talking
about economics, We're not talking about societal hierarchy, We're not
talking about any of that. We're talking about expression and expansion.
(08:22):
How do we continue to learn and channel the divine right,
our divine self, like, how do we bring that to
the planet. That's what I'm defining a sole expression. Other
people would define it differently, But for this working and
extended analogy, that's I'm asking you to define it. And
so for the people who went on to law school.
From a marketing perspective, they did not continue to advance
(08:45):
in the marketing as right, they.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Chose another path.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So there you're going to look like an older marketing
soul compared to them, right, correct, to the people who
dropped out and went to do a startup, right, they
may have ended up being incredible marketers because as a
startup you have to wear all hats, right, seriously, right,
(09:09):
But it's going to look different, right, right, It's going
to look different. So in a traditional marketing role, they
may not be as competitive, but they still knew how
to do the ground, you know, so they would be like,
you know, I do okay in the marketing right. So,
but but my my point is that what you practice,
what you double down on, what you continue to expand
(09:30):
and be curious and learn and challenge yourself to express
over and over and over. That's what traditionally we refer
to as an old soul. It's not a chronological thing
because time doesn't exist in the spirit world.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So yeah, And the other thing is that there's a
lot of stuff I didn't do. I like, this is
the example of a path that I was very committed to.
I had a lot of people you know ask me,
it's like, well, how are you able to do this
kind of thing? And you know, for a long time
I wondered the same thing. You know, my right voice,
right time, whatever it may be. But you know, my
(10:08):
my more adult answer to it is I was curious.
I found something that I was very curious. I loved
working from a blank page. I love not sitting in
somebody else's seat. And I worked hard, right or long
hours hard, and I loved it. And so yeah, I
(10:32):
see how and on that path that would you know,
on the live scorecard be like okay, check, yeah, right right,
I get that right.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But we look at we look at things through different lenses.
So if we're looking just at the marketing lens, and
obviously you've expected you have expanded and expressed and experienced
far beyond just the marketing lens. But it was just
that example, that analogy that I thought was accessible that
when we look at through a marketing lens, you look
like an old soul compared to someone who did it
(11:05):
for two years and then switched whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Here's exactly right, because this was something that my soul
wanted to pursue, and I listened and it was about
creation right where there. Yeah, and there's I think also
some people came in and like my sister in law,
by the way, phenomenal mother, phenomenal just she and my
(11:31):
brother have three kids, and she loves those kids more
than I don't even know you have much more. You
could love those kids than anything else. And that's what
she said, Like from when she was young, she wanted
she wanted to be a mom. That was her thing.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, and again this is like the direction your soul
tells you what to do. But this is just an
analogy of how when we think so it's not I'm related,
is my point? These old souls soul and when people
you know, roll their eyes, Oh my god, I'm just
such a new soul. Like that's it's snarky. It's fun,
it's playful, but it's not really a thing that's kind.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Of assholy too, because a lot of people use it
as an insult. Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It is a little snarky, but you know, it can
be a giggle or whatever. But my point stands, So
your point totally stands. Yes, So that's how I invite
people to think about it. And we'll take a little
break and come back to address just cats incredibly insightful
questions and welcome back.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Whooo all right, gid it up, folks, We're gonna keep
going here because I have thought about this and I'm
just gonna express how I thought about it, and then,
in typical form, Burnd is going to correct me. So
because I I love this. Got a second piece that
she has about does it? It's because she in the
(13:10):
middle says, doesn't that mean a soul has to have
a beginning? Or do the souls just chill out for
a few millennia while other souls get started first? But
then it goes back to their being a beginning, which
isn't a thing if everything is infinite. Okay, So I
have actually thought about this weirdly, and my analogies are
(13:31):
not as eloquent as yours. Mine are sometimes stupid, but
it gets the point across. So you know, I may
you know they had just discovered a footprint, a fossil
footprint here in New Mexico, and they carbon dated it
to twenty one thousand years ago and likely not a
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time when there were a lot of humans on the planet.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So also when it goes in that's a significant difference
for people.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Right, and you know, we only know what from a
logic standpoint, what science has told us. We think we
know that the Earth was formed roughly four billion years ago,
and then here's a footprint twenty one thousand years ago. Right,
there's a lot of time, right, right, there's a lot
(14:22):
of time. There are theories of you know, Atlantis lost civilizations.
But even in those thoughts that in my head to
Jesse Katz kind of question endpoint at the same time
is are their souls waiting? And I've always kind of
(14:44):
imagined this warehouse and back in the days where there
weren't a lot of humans to embody, the souls that
they were kind of were waiting, I think in this
kind of packed warehouse. But then you have so fast
forward the twenty one thousand years from this footprint, because
again this is what science has sold us. We've asked
(15:06):
forward to that. And now we have billions of humans
on the planet. And since you told me we can't
cross over species like Homer being my dad had to
find a way to bring it up again that you know,
that warehouse seems a little less full to me. Now,
you know, can other souls be created? Oh? Maybe do they?
(15:32):
You know? Can they come from other planets? Sure? Why not?
You know who says right? So I don't know if
I really said anything except that, you know, is there
a soul warehouse or is there a soul factory? If
we're credit, is there a soul factory? I don't know.
In Detroit that's where the factories are, or in China
(15:52):
more factories. Where in the world would the sole factory be?
I like Detroit personally, So I don't know, like, but
that's my vision. And again I try to use some
science to think kind of like, you know, kind of
make little hashes for different times in four billion years,
(16:14):
and lately the closest one we have for people is
twenty one thousand years ago. Yeah, So I don't know,
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So there there's a whole bunch enough in y'all I'm
thinking about.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, I love the curiosity and the creativity because that's
always fun. And there's a lot we don't know, and
my limited understanding because I am embodied in human right,
so we have a very limited perspective. But there is
you know, a sort of starter kit, shall we call
(16:50):
it for souls, Like there's the starter kit for the
was it the yeast bread everybody made during the time. Yes,
I'm talking about right. So like there's a starter kit
and it's a creation process like Stardust.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Can we say it's like a startup?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It is?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
We can say started starter kit. Sorry, I'm just visualizing
my creative healve, right, So we start with what we
start with, and the process itself is creative, so it's
going to continue to generate. That's what the process does.
And how that creative process gets influenced or stoked up
(17:31):
or slowed down depends on what's happening here on earth.
Does that make sense? It totally makes us guess a
question I can ask.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Because it's just a continuum, right, the recycling and the reincarnation,
and so it's just continuum. What happens in spare what
happens in Earth, that's as above so below right, That's
where that axiom comes from. So what's your question?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay? My question is because I always have to refer
to entertainment. You know, there have been there's actually been
music and I just saw documentary recently and it was
some really messed up kind of cult thing called the
Twin Flame whatever it was. And then there's songs that
have twin because the way they explain it is like, oh,
(18:19):
well your soul was split and then you found the
other half to your soul. It's like, okay, a, I've
never believed in that. I never have. Maybe it's true,
so maybe you can convert me. But it's like, I
don't know how we could split. Okay, So it's not
a thing. Brenda was shaking her head, y'all.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
See, yeah, sorry, it is a poet. I have to talk. Okay, Okay,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
This is not for you.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
This is a popular concept and I understand where it
comes from.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But the.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Union is a choice activated with love and a connection
with each other. It's not one soul actually split.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Right Because the song, just so everybody knows, is Headwig
and the Angry Inch. It's kind of a gay cult film.
It's also became a play in New York and there's
a song in there about being split and coming back together,
and it's like I remember hearing it and I'm like, nope, nope.
And then I watched this twin flame thing and they
(19:22):
were by the end, if you ever watched it, they
were clearly full of fucking shit. So I didn't believe
in the first place, but then at the end, finally
they kind of brought everybody along with him, like, no,
this isn't a thing. They were trying to make money
and scam people.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I don't know. I never saw the show, so I
can't speak to that. But what I will say is
when people share a deep love here in our school
and then someone one of those to leave early, when
you come back together, it can feel like, oh, I
finally you know, in another lifetime, when you read were reunited,
it can feel like, oh I feel whole again.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's like a sole family thing to me.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I remember this, I remember it. So it's a
beloved reunion, which is very sacred and it's very beautiful.
But it's not the same thing as the core essence
that is you being split into bingo.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That's it. And you also could be a part of
being made up of stardust. I mean, who says that
this is the only planet that can inhabit something that
can inhabit house the soul right now?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And Carl Sagen would say that we are made of
stardust right.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, for sure, but who knows. Like so, even before
the Earth four billion years ago, the whole thing that happened.
Like I read a whole thing about how it was
an asteroid hit a chunk of what became the moon,
you know, like all these like really this science is
kind of incredible, but who says that pre that there
(20:57):
wasn't something else? So just cat really fabulous And no,
we don't think you're high. And even if you were,
still a great question you got there. It's really fabulous.
So we are going to take a break. I think
we should take a break.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And welcome back from my ELF's break.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, So speaking of this whole soul warehouse, soul factory,
not soul splitting. One thing that you've said to me
that absolutely blew my mind. We're going deeper than what
Jesse asked right now, y'all. You had said that if
our soul was our whole soul was in our body,
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our body would explode because the energy, the vibration would
be so high. So there's only a part of our
piece that is in our physical body right now, right,
And so where's the rest of the Brenda soul? What's
it doing?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, the soul that has chosen to send a beam
to incarnate as Brenda. Right, So that's how we would
think about it, because it's the soul actually isn't named Brenda.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's just this we are today. It's named Brenda. Okay, Okay,
labels right, Okay. So this.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So your core essence has opportunity to do all kinds
of things at the same time because your soul isn't embodied,
so it's not limited by its physical presence. Right, So
this element of you know, your soul can be off
(22:47):
on other dimensions.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
An island, oh, like survivor you're on an island.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
An island is a dimension, that's true. But I'm thinking
not in our school. Oh my god, myth is snorting.
We're not going to get this back people, amazing, Oh
my god. So we have other things to work on,
other things we can contribute to. We can be greeting
(23:25):
human you know, people who have left our school and
showing up in the spirit world, and we can be
greeting them, healing them, helping them, guiding them, holding space.
We can be inspiring people, coaching humans right on earth.
We can be literally in other dimensions that we are
not familiar with as humans, but as a soul we
(23:46):
have complete access to. So this is you know, the
multiverse world that that is absolutely an option.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, so it don't be shocked, but it reminds me
of a TV show. Now here's what it is. It's
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I have to sit down now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Sid you'd sit down and take some notes. So, and
I just finished watching the series recently. It's on Amazon
Prime and it's called Man in the High Castle, and
it's really fascinating because it is it's kind of in
that what if category. I love like what if this
(24:25):
kind of thing. Like there was the movie that was
Quentin Tarantino made called Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,
and it was a what if the Manson family went
to the wrong house kind of a what if? So right,
it was great because at the end of it, sorry
everybody should have seen it by now, but at the
end of it you see Sharon Tate walking down a
driveway going, hey, what happened last night? Because a man's
and family went next door to her? Wild? Right, And
(24:48):
so this is a what if? And this is what
if In World War Two that the US lost and
the western part of the United States was actually run
actually Japan, and then the eastern part was Germany. The
Nazi Nazi Germany. And then then there's a little sliver
which actually where I live now is kind of in
(25:09):
the snow Man's Land, which is kind of fun, but
it's wild and reckless. But here's the thing that through
the the whole idea. The man in the in the
High Castle has videos of alternate realities, same players, same people,
of times when it didn't happen, where the US wasn't
(25:29):
split like this, like it was a multiverse.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
There are times and not a continuum. It's a curl.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It's a portal. Yes, that's exactly what it is. I
haven't but that's yeah. Well you might have written it
as somebody made it and it was really Scott, so
it doesn't surprise me because he likes to do stuff
like this. But it was really interesting. So if anybody
wants to kind of watch something. The reason I bring
it up is just to really offer to people that
(25:58):
there's a there's there's something out there that I think
there's a really nice job of not only the what
if but in this kind of multiverse idea, And very
soon you'll figure out who our heroine is in this
and how it's kind of up to her to figure
some stuff out. But it's really fascinating because it is
(26:18):
very multi I was. I kind of made Susanne watch it,
and she was like, what are you making me watch?
I go just keep watching, And toward the end of it,
we were having these great conversations, these existential conversations about
these like living in different universes. This one happened to
all be kind of on the earth plane because it's
(26:39):
kind of hard to shoot things that are Yes, it's
kind of hard to you know, shoot things on your ainus,
so you know, I have to get that in, I know.
But anyway, it is it's a fascinating thing to think
about a sprinkle of our soul is here with us,
and how busy it is doing other things. It's kind
of awesome. And anyway, so I Jesse Kat, you absolutely
(27:05):
made my day by asking this question. I think you
made Brenda's day as well, because it's a pontificate. We
get a pontificate because here's their thing. We don't know.
We don't know, Yep, we don't know. We will explore,
you know, there's things that we believe, but hell, we
(27:25):
don't know. We're not going to know till we go
back home. But right now, these are really, there's far
better way to spend your time contemplating and thinking than
it is on a lot of other subjects. Because this
is just it's interesting. I have conversations. What are possibilities?
So if anybody does have the answer, reach out because
we'd like to know too.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But anyway, we thank you Jesse Katt and listening. I
remember our school is.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Hard without Jesse Katt on the other side. Absolutely, thanks
shall thanks and thanks us again.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
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to our producer Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, for
in Earth school is hard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth school together.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well, hello, my witchy ophoo, what in the hell is
going on with you?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Just contemplating the universe as one does right?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, that and you know, stuggling with my dog.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No they're not. It's actually funny because you know, I
walked the gy every day in the neighborhood. That's how
I've met people, and we've made a lot of friends
and met a lot of other dogs. And there was
this woman who's so sweet. We were walking home and
this woman goes, aren't they just magnificent? Oh? And she goes,
(01:26):
aren't they just incredible. She's like, I just don't know
what I'd do without. I mean, she didn't even say
hello to me. It was like, it's just magnificent. And
it's like, yeah, they are. That's why I think that,
you know, Homer was once my dad. But that's a
whole other topic. They will get into. Well we've gotten into,
but you never know, we might get into it some
other time, maybe today again. Anyway, So we have an
(01:52):
amazing existential, mind blowing question and I have the best
listeners rights ever that are so thoughtful and so fun,
so fun, and it's you know, it's if you if
(02:15):
you sit quietly long enough and kind of think about
some of this, this is a really, I think, a really
magnificent question because you know, we we are here in
these these human suits and which limit sometimes us and
how we think, and so this was really impressive. So
(02:37):
without further ado, I will read this question from Jesse Kapp. Hey, guys,
I have a question. I promise I'm not high. Okay,
to be honest with you, it's like we actually wanted
to name this one. Hi. We're not high either, So
Jesse Ken, you know that was one of the options
(02:57):
that we were working with she goes on and says,
if everyone has always existed because we are infinite beings,
then how are their souls that are older than other souls?
So that's part one. There's lots of parts here, thank you, Jessica.
(03:22):
The other then she goes on and says, doesn't that
mean a soul has to have a beginning? Part two?
Great question? Or do the souls just chill out for
a few millennia while other souls get started first? But
then that goes back to their being a beginning, which
isn't a thing if everything is infinite. Help. Thanks love
(03:51):
Jesse kat Well, Jesse kat we love you. This is
a magnificent question that I mean, Listen, I've sat around
and wondered where was my beginning? Where did I start?
How early I'm aware of like some past live action
back in the Egyptian days, but like what it was,
(04:13):
Atlantis a part of it. It's all crazy stuff. And
then I think the whole new souls, which I actually
think people use. I know I'm still talking. I should
be stopping right now and let you know, it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It's such a great question, right, that's how you's a
great question. You can just around it, right.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But here's what makes me crazy, is, uh, somehow humans
always try to find a way to be superior, and
people like to use an insult saying, oh, well, they're
just a young soul. You know. I've heard people say that,
or it's like, well, you know, I'm an old soul.
You know, that's like about as Kooth is saying I'm
(04:51):
a shaman. You know, you just saying it like that,
that's right, right, And so I think you know you
did as we were, you know, kind of prepping for this.
You actually did a little trick with me, asking me
a series of questions to make the point of kind
(05:12):
of soul soul level existence whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right time doesn't exist in soul age, is how I
would say it. So when you were coming at me
with these questions expanding.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Upon coming at you gently, coming up.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Just with curiosity, right, like what about this? And what
about this? And what about this? Right? An elf special
curiosity factor, And so that jesse Kat's beautiful questions spurred.
And what the analogy that I used, and again it's
just an analogy, but I asked you the question that said,
(05:49):
you know, at what point did you decide to declare
your interest and passion for marketing.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
When I was my first two years ago you Yeah,
I was in the journalism school yep.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay, and you're like, this is what I'm going to do.
Like this speaks to me, right, And I'm assuming that
you had peers who were also like, yeah, let's do that.
That's cool, let's do that. I did, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you change schools, right I did.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I went to SMU and then yeah, and when I
went there, I had already declared my major as advertising,
so yes.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And so you had new peers, right, that were also
interested in advertising, and so there they are peers because
you're in a structured program and you know, you're all
studying and having your own experience. But then you graduate
and you go out into the world, and when you're
(06:48):
in the world, you start taking assignments and roles and
working with different companies. And I'm sure at some point,
like you came back in contact with you or studying peers, correct.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I did. Yep. Still friends with some of them.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And some of them actually took work in marketing areas, correct, Yeah,
almost all of them, almost all of them. Okay, then
some of them did, right, some of them, did they
went on something else?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Law school?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
But yes, a natural segue, but that's another podcast. Okay,
So you've got some peers, you know, and then you
kept accelerating and expanding your skill set as a marketer
as you went to different industries and different companies and
different markets across the globe. Yes, right, And so some
(07:39):
of those souls or people who were your peers at
OU or SMU, did they perform at the same levels
in the same organizations, in the same industries as.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You, not necessarily, No, not all of them. Yeah you
did really well.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Okay, so suddenly we have what
can look like. And again I want to be really
clear when we're talking about sole expression, we're not talking
about economics, We're not talking about societal hierarchy, We're not
talking about any of that. We're talking about expression and expansion.
(08:22):
How do we continue to learn and channel the divine right,
our divine self, like, how do we bring that to
the planet. That's what I'm defining a sole expression. Other
people would define it differently, But for this working and
extended analogy, that's I'm asking you to define it. And
so for the people who went on to law school.
From a marketing perspective, they did not continue to advance
(08:45):
in the marketing as right, they.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Chose another path.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So there you're going to look like an older marketing
soul compared to them, right, correct, to the people who
dropped out and went to do a startup, right, they
may have ended up being incredible marketers because as a
startup you have to wear all hats, right, seriously, right,
(09:09):
But it's going to look different, right, right, It's going
to look different. So in a traditional marketing role, they
may not be as competitive, but they still knew how
to do the ground, you know, so they would be like,
you know, I do okay in the marketing right. So,
but but my my point is that what you practice,
what you double down on, what you continue to expand
(09:30):
and be curious and learn and challenge yourself to express
over and over and over. That's what traditionally we refer
to as an old soul. It's not a chronological thing
because time doesn't exist in the spirit world.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So yeah, And the other thing is that there's a
lot of stuff I didn't do. I like, this is
the example of a path that I was very committed to.
I had a lot of people you know ask me,
it's like, well, how are you able to do this
kind of thing? And you know, for a long time
I wondered the same thing. You know, my right voice,
right time, whatever it may be. But you know, my
(10:08):
my more adult answer to it is I was curious.
I found something that I was very curious. I loved
working from a blank page. I love not sitting in
somebody else's seat. And I worked hard, right or long
hours hard, and I loved it. And so yeah, I
(10:32):
see how and on that path that would you know,
on the live scorecard be like okay, check, yeah, right right,
I get that right.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But we look at we look at things through different lenses.
So if we're looking just at the marketing lens, and
obviously you've expected you have expanded and expressed and experienced
far beyond just the marketing lens. But it was just
that example, that analogy that I thought was accessible that
when we look at through a marketing lens, you look
like an old soul compared to someone who did it
(11:05):
for two years and then switched whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Here's exactly right, because this was something that my soul
wanted to pursue, and I listened and it was about
creation right where there. Yeah, and there's I think also
some people came in and like my sister in law,
by the way, phenomenal mother, phenomenal just she and my
(11:31):
brother have three kids, and she loves those kids more
than I don't even know you have much more. You
could love those kids than anything else. And that's what
she said, Like from when she was young, she wanted
she wanted to be a mom. That was her thing.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, and again this is like the direction your soul
tells you what to do. But this is just an
analogy of how when we think so it's not I'm related,
is my point? These old souls soul and when people
you know, roll their eyes, Oh my god, I'm just
such a new soul. Like that's it's snarky. It's fun,
it's playful, but it's not really a thing that's kind.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Of assholy too, because a lot of people use it
as an insult. Yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
It is a little snarky, but you know, it can
be a giggle or whatever. But my point stands, So
your point totally stands. Yes, So that's how I invite
people to think about it. And we'll take a little
break and come back to address just cats incredibly insightful
questions and welcome back.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Whooo all right, gid it up, folks, We're gonna keep
going here because I have thought about this and I'm
just gonna express how I thought about it, and then,
in typical form, Burnd is going to correct me. So
because I I love this. Got a second piece that
she has about does it? It's because she in the
(13:10):
middle says, doesn't that mean a soul has to have
a beginning? Or do the souls just chill out for
a few millennia while other souls get started first? But
then it goes back to their being a beginning, which
isn't a thing if everything is infinite. Okay, So I
have actually thought about this weirdly, and my analogies are
(13:31):
not as eloquent as yours. Mine are sometimes stupid, but
it gets the point across. So you know, I may
you know they had just discovered a footprint, a fossil
footprint here in New Mexico, and they carbon dated it
to twenty one thousand years ago and likely not a
(13:53):
time when there were a lot of humans on the planet.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
So also when it goes in that's a significant difference
for people.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Right, and you know, we only know what from a
logic standpoint, what science has told us. We think we
know that the Earth was formed roughly four billion years ago,
and then here's a footprint twenty one thousand years ago. Right,
there's a lot of time, right, right, there's a lot
(14:22):
of time. There are theories of you know, Atlantis lost civilizations.
But even in those thoughts that in my head to
Jesse Katz kind of question endpoint at the same time
is are their souls waiting? And I've always kind of
(14:44):
imagined this warehouse and back in the days where there
weren't a lot of humans to embody, the souls that
they were kind of were waiting, I think in this
kind of packed warehouse. But then you have so fast
forward the twenty one thousand years from this footprint, because
again this is what science has sold us. We've asked
(15:06):
forward to that. And now we have billions of humans
on the planet. And since you told me we can't
cross over species like Homer being my dad had to
find a way to bring it up again that you know,
that warehouse seems a little less full to me. Now,
you know, can other souls be created? Oh? Maybe do they?
(15:32):
You know? Can they come from other planets? Sure? Why not?
You know who says right? So I don't know if
I really said anything except that, you know, is there
a soul warehouse or is there a soul factory? If
we're credit, is there a soul factory? I don't know.
In Detroit that's where the factories are, or in China
(15:52):
more factories. Where in the world would the sole factory be?
I like Detroit personally, So I don't know, like, but
that's my vision. And again I try to use some
science to think kind of like, you know, kind of
make little hashes for different times in four billion years,
(16:14):
and lately the closest one we have for people is
twenty one thousand years ago. Yeah, So I don't know,
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So there there's a whole bunch enough in y'all I'm
thinking about.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, I love the curiosity and the creativity because that's
always fun. And there's a lot we don't know, and
my limited understanding because I am embodied in human right,
so we have a very limited perspective. But there is
you know, a sort of starter kit, shall we call
(16:50):
it for souls, Like there's the starter kit for the
was it the yeast bread everybody made during the time. Yes,
I'm talking about right. So like there's a starter kit
and it's a creation process like Stardust.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Can we say it's like a startup?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
It is?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
We can say started starter kit. Sorry, I'm just visualizing
my creative healve, right, So we start with what we
start with, and the process itself is creative, so it's
going to continue to generate. That's what the process does.
And how that creative process gets influenced or stoked up
(17:31):
or slowed down depends on what's happening here on earth.
Does that make sense? It totally makes us guess a
question I can ask.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Because it's just a continuum, right, the recycling and the reincarnation,
and so it's just continuum. What happens in spare what
happens in Earth, that's as above so below right, That's
where that axiom comes from. So what's your question?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Okay? My question is because I always have to refer
to entertainment. You know, there have been there's actually been
music and I just saw documentary recently and it was
some really messed up kind of cult thing called the
Twin Flame whatever it was. And then there's songs that
have twin because the way they explain it is like, oh,
(18:19):
well your soul was split and then you found the
other half to your soul. It's like, okay, a, I've
never believed in that. I never have. Maybe it's true,
so maybe you can convert me. But it's like, I
don't know how we could split. Okay, So it's not
a thing. Brenda was shaking her head, y'all.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
See, yeah, sorry, it is a poet. I have to talk. Okay, Okay,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
This is not for you.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
This is a popular concept and I understand where it
comes from.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But the.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Union is a choice activated with love and a connection
with each other. It's not one soul actually split.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Right Because the song, just so everybody knows, is Headwig
and the Angry Inch. It's kind of a gay cult film.
It's also became a play in New York and there's
a song in there about being split and coming back together,
and it's like I remember hearing it and I'm like, nope, nope.
And then I watched this twin flame thing and they
(19:22):
were by the end, if you ever watched it, they
were clearly full of fucking shit. So I didn't believe
in the first place, but then at the end, finally
they kind of brought everybody along with him, like, no,
this isn't a thing. They were trying to make money
and scam people.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I don't know. I never saw the show, so I
can't speak to that. But what I will say is
when people share a deep love here in our school
and then someone one of those to leave early, when
you come back together, it can feel like, oh, I
finally you know, in another lifetime, when you read were reunited,
it can feel like, oh I feel whole again.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's like a sole family thing to me.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I remember this, I remember it. So it's a
beloved reunion, which is very sacred and it's very beautiful.
But it's not the same thing as the core essence
that is you being split into bingo.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That's it. And you also could be a part of
being made up of stardust. I mean, who says that
this is the only planet that can inhabit something that
can inhabit house the soul right now?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And Carl Sagen would say that we are made of
stardust right.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, for sure, but who knows. Like so, even before
the Earth four billion years ago, the whole thing that happened.
Like I read a whole thing about how it was
an asteroid hit a chunk of what became the moon,
you know, like all these like really this science is
kind of incredible, but who says that pre that there
(20:57):
wasn't something else? So just cat really fabulous And no,
we don't think you're high. And even if you were,
still a great question you got there. It's really fabulous.
So we are going to take a break. I think
we should take a break.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And welcome back from my ELF's break.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, So speaking of this whole soul warehouse, soul factory,
not soul splitting. One thing that you've said to me
that absolutely blew my mind. We're going deeper than what
Jesse asked right now, y'all. You had said that if
our soul was our whole soul was in our body,
(21:48):
our body would explode because the energy, the vibration would
be so high. So there's only a part of our
piece that is in our physical body right now, right,
And so where's the rest of the Brenda soul? What's
it doing?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, the soul that has chosen to send a beam
to incarnate as Brenda. Right, So that's how we would
think about it, because it's the soul actually isn't named Brenda.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's just this we are today. It's named Brenda. Okay, Okay,
labels right, Okay. So this.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So your core essence has opportunity to do all kinds
of things at the same time because your soul isn't embodied,
so it's not limited by its physical presence. Right, So
this element of you know, your soul can be off
(22:47):
on other dimensions.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
An island, oh, like survivor you're on an island.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
An island is a dimension, that's true. But I'm thinking
not in our school. Oh my god, myth is snorting.
We're not going to get this back people, amazing, Oh
my god. So we have other things to work on,
other things we can contribute to. We can be greeting
(23:25):
human you know, people who have left our school and
showing up in the spirit world, and we can be
greeting them, healing them, helping them, guiding them, holding space.
We can be inspiring people, coaching humans right on earth.
We can be literally in other dimensions that we are
not familiar with as humans, but as a soul we
(23:46):
have complete access to. So this is you know, the
multiverse world that that is absolutely an option.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, so it don't be shocked, but it reminds me
of a TV show. Now here's what it is. It's
really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I have to sit down now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Sid you'd sit down and take some notes. So, and
I just finished watching the series recently. It's on Amazon
Prime and it's called Man in the High Castle, and
it's really fascinating because it is it's kind of in
that what if category. I love like what if this
(24:25):
kind of thing. Like there was the movie that was
Quentin Tarantino made called Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,
and it was a what if the Manson family went
to the wrong house kind of a what if? So right,
it was great because at the end of it, sorry
everybody should have seen it by now, but at the
end of it you see Sharon Tate walking down a
driveway going, hey, what happened last night? Because a man's
and family went next door to her? Wild? Right, And
(24:48):
so this is a what if? And this is what
if In World War Two that the US lost and
the western part of the United States was actually run
actually Japan, and then the eastern part was Germany. The
Nazi Nazi Germany. And then then there's a little sliver
which actually where I live now is kind of in
(25:09):
the snow Man's Land, which is kind of fun, but
it's wild and reckless. But here's the thing that through
the the whole idea. The man in the in the
High Castle has videos of alternate realities, same players, same people,
of times when it didn't happen, where the US wasn't
(25:29):
split like this, like it was a multiverse.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
There are times and not a continuum. It's a curl.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
It's a portal. Yes, that's exactly what it is. I
haven't but that's yeah. Well you might have written it
as somebody made it and it was really Scott, so
it doesn't surprise me because he likes to do stuff
like this. But it was really interesting. So if anybody
wants to kind of watch something. The reason I bring
it up is just to really offer to people that
(25:58):
there's a there's there's something out there that I think
there's a really nice job of not only the what
if but in this kind of multiverse idea, And very
soon you'll figure out who our heroine is in this
and how it's kind of up to her to figure
some stuff out. But it's really fascinating because it is
(26:18):
very multi I was. I kind of made Susanne watch it,
and she was like, what are you making me watch?
I go just keep watching, And toward the end of it,
we were having these great conversations, these existential conversations about
these like living in different universes. This one happened to
all be kind of on the earth plane because it's
(26:39):
kind of hard to shoot things that are Yes, it's
kind of hard to you know, shoot things on your ainus,
so you know, I have to get that in, I know.
But anyway, it is it's a fascinating thing to think
about a sprinkle of our soul is here with us,
and how busy it is doing other things. It's kind
of awesome. And anyway, so I Jesse Kat, you absolutely
(27:05):
made my day by asking this question. I think you
made Brenda's day as well, because it's a pontificate. We
get a pontificate because here's their thing. We don't know.
We don't know, Yep, we don't know. We will explore,
you know, there's things that we believe, but hell, we
(27:25):
don't know. We're not going to know till we go
back home. But right now, these are really, there's far
better way to spend your time contemplating and thinking than
it is on a lot of other subjects. Because this
is just it's interesting. I have conversations. What are possibilities?
So if anybody does have the answer, reach out because
we'd like to know too.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But anyway, we thank you Jesse Katt and listening. I
remember our school is.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Hard without Jesse Katt on the other side. Absolutely, thanks
shall thanks and thanks us again.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Thank you for joining us everyone, and a special thanks
to our producer Joey Patt and our executive producer Maya
Cole Howard, who guides us while we guide.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
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Speaker 2 (28:27):
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