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December 20, 2023 33 mins

How's your relationship with sugar? After a listener wrote in to describe her sugar craving as an addiction, Julie and Brenda decided it was a good idea to chew on this subject a bit longer...Sugar is everywhere, and it is quite addictive. Today, we discuss what happens to the brain when you eat it, how it can feel when you decide to limit it or quit, and ways you can interrupt your eating patterns to be present with what your body actually craves.Attempting to halt your sugar rush (or any form of over-consumption) is an opportunity to complete an Earth School lesson, which keeps it from lingering into the next life and beyond. So tune in today to learn how to plan, prepare, and take responsibility for your habits and lifestyle goals.Because Earth School is hard, and temptation is everywhere, but empowering choices and greater self-awareness are attainable, courtesy of the Other Side. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Other Side.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
everything on the other side.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
or to some the invisible world, life is going to
be more fun and much more serene.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Uh heck, yes it can. Because, let's be honest, br in,
earth school is hard.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
In fact, you taught me that let's crush earth School together.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, hello, my witchy pooh. I don't know about you,
but I'm very familiar with the sugar monster.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh yes, the sugar monster. Not your friend. Not your friend.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
How you doing that? We'll jump into that in just
a second. Are you doing good?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hi? I am doing good. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Everyone's
whinding down at work, and so everyone's in a really
great mood when I talk to them. I'm like my
couching clients, all my reading clients. Everyone's happy, happy, happy.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's awesome. Yeah, I only that's awesome. I love that.
You know. We are sorry about the noise. That's my
dog running around. We are actually getting ready to move,
so we're some chaos, which is why you hear all
the notes like if you hear Suky she walks over
boxes and things. And because we're trying to pack again,

(01:34):
you know, to move into our home, we've been happening. Yeah,
we've been untethered for a while, which is actually I
think part of this part of the subject that we're
going to talk about today, because for me, being untethered,
you know, I go back into some bad habits.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
But well, seeking comfort, right, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Seeking comfort and yeah, and being untethered for me is
that And so I didn't know that in advance. But anyway,
we live, we learn. But uh, but we have a
really great question from one of our listeners. So I
think what we should do is kind of read it
and then kind of break it down and also go bigger.

(02:18):
So I think that's our plan.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, great, great, great great.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I was very British of me to say, so that's
our plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least that's how the
Brits used to talk to me. Okay, here's the question. Hi,
Julie and Brenda, by the way, nice order. But she
didn't call me elf, Hi, Julie and Brenda. I have

(02:43):
a follow up question to today's podcast, which one that was, Oh,
she goes, you touched a bit on emotional eating. Yeah,
I bet we did, She goes. It's like, you know,
are you looking up my soul right now? She says,
I quit sugar a little over a year ago. But

(03:05):
what's interesting is I struggle very much with not eating it.
Co workers bring donuts into the office, and then there
are birthday parties, and then there are holidays. I found
that that since I quit sugar, it actually makes me
kind of sick when I do have some kind of

(03:25):
sounds like drugs, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, what a gift though.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh seriously, I wish I did. Which after we read this,
it's going to be interesting because this is a very
profound question. She goes, Uh, I you know, but when
I when I sick, when I do have some, I
know it makes me not feel well, and yet I
have this desperation to eat processed sugars and sweet things. Yea,

(03:50):
I know what's linked to my emotions. So kind of,
by the way, just kind of it's not fully how
does one work past this struggle? I'm the wrong one.
My brain thinks sugar is the best thing to ever
happen to me, But my stomach says otherwise. It feels
like more of a matter than just deciding not to

(04:13):
eat it. Sugar is literally everywhere, and even though I
tell people that I don't eat sugar, they still will
offer it to me because they know I used to
like it. I feel like an addict. Please help and
thank you in advance. So I'm going to jump in
really quick because we you know, we prep and we

(04:35):
spoke at length yesterday and about this, and I remember
I made a statement to you that says, you know,
it's interesting. I never have stomach problems. My physical problems
are usually, or have always been, more congestion right in
my sinuses. I woke up this morning with a stomach ache,

(04:55):
but it wasn't because of food, by the way, like
as I will get into that in a minute, but
I woke up up with one. I think this is
a really powerful I think what we're going to talk
about today is important because I woke up feeling this question, right,
what about you?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I did now ike up with the stomach ache or
so I'm happy about that. However, I had a plumber
come to the house who had to leave halfway through
the job because his stomach was a message I had
and I will say it is. I know this isn't
the case for you, but it is the holiday season,
and you know there's a lot of celebrating equals sugar

(05:35):
and sugar could be alcohol because that turns to sugar
in your system, it does, right, Or it could be
little literally you know, like rock cane sugar or whatever
whatever version of sweetener you you're ingesting like it literally,
So it's around us all the time right now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, and I appreciate that question because when I used
to work in uh, the office environment, there was always
something there and I like remember just walking by a
box or bag or plate or of something and you know,
unconsciously grabbing it like it was you know, a draw.

(06:13):
It was like, oh that looks good. I got to
have that. And even if it got bound to the
bad stuff, I still lid it. It's like, the hell's
wrong with me? So I think there's all I think.
I think a work environment is really tough because.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, and we're all five years old at heart, right,
I mean right, So yeah, But I do think it's
important to remember because she said, you know it feels
I feel like an addict, like a true addict. And
we know that sugar triggers that part of our brain,

(06:44):
the same part of the brain that gets stimulated when
we take crack cocaine, right yeah, And so it literally
is you know, creates those dopamines that high, and you
know the crash is just as intense, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's actually with over the years where we used to
eat well more natural food, right like, because she even
said in a question about highly processed sugar and that's
high fruitcoast corn syrup and the reason that manufacturers started
to use it that it was cheaper and it had
more of that more intense of that sugar because there's

(07:23):
a liquid that sugar high and we kind of became
drug addicts. So she's not wrong. Oh is it is biology?
She is not wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
No, no, no, And it's not a character flaw that this
is the reaction, right, this is biology. So like you
have to have compassion, and you know, just again it's topical.
It's very relevant right now, and sugar is everywhere.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It is.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Just taking a moment to read. It doesn't matter if
it's ketchup, if it's mustard. If it's like it's like
woven into all kinds of things because it's a great
filler and it can mask all kinds of bad cooking.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well you know what it also does, you know, But
you're right, and it's I remember the first time when
I read what was in a McDonald's hamburger. There's more
sugar in a McDonald's hamburg and the buns, and they
put it in the meat because it keeps you coming,
especially kids. Right, it's like, oh, let's go to McDonald's.
Go to McDonald's. And it's not it's there's sugar in it,

(08:31):
you know. And I think you're right, like this is
one of those things to really think about and read
those labels. But I think what we should do because yes, sorry, I'm.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Just gonna say one more thing. Even when she talked
about being off sugar for over a year and still
craving it, that was really interesting to me because usually,
you know, maybe maybe six months, maybe ninety days, maybe
thirty days, you will lose your taste for sugar, you
won't really crave it. And so when that happens, it

(09:04):
really makes me wonder like if this isn't you know,
just something bigger, which we're going to talk about in
the next segment.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yep, we sure are all right, y'all. We'll be right back,
all right, our little monsters, We're back.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I like it. I like it. So I recently got
a new m D which was very interesting to me,
and she was talking to me and taking you know,
doing an intake, just a general intake, and she was
asking me about, you know, my general well being and
my you know, habits, and asking me about coffee consumption,

(09:49):
asking me if I smoke, how much I drink, if
I you know, what my CBD consumption was, and I'm
like nope, nope, nope, and the then I said then
she's like, oh, okay, well that's a little unusual. I said, well,
you know, my might go to bed habit is sugar.
And she's like, oh, that's the other drug, you know.

(10:11):
But she didn't ask it, which I thought was amazing.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's fascinating right now, that should be on the intake form.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Why wouldn't it be right? I mean, so I'm like
outing myself to my doc and I'm like, how could
you not ask that question? But the way the way
she's like, oh, yeah, that's the other one. It was
just so normal for her, and I just I think
it's important to think about this numbing process that we
crave in earth school, because her school is hard. We

(10:40):
crave this numbing process. But all those things she talked about,
you know, we don't sleep or we stay up late,
so we need coffee to stimulate. But it's there's almost
a numbing like I'm trying to numb that I'm tired,
so I consume a caffeine or you know, in the
everything else, you know, the smoking, the drinking, the cbe D.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And again I think, is what you're talking about. It
it's th HC because that is the one that that's
that's the chemical in it.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, but don't they like there CBD. It's not.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
There is CBD, but it's not the psychotropic. So THHC
is a psychotropic part of the plant.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I thought those I thought, these are things I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Know Karen and Karen so obviously when you had to
check what you teck, no, because you don't even know
what the fuck it is.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I thought they are like CBD gummies. I thought that's
what everybody takes. But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, I trust I'm here to help, but again, I
just think like what we can talk about sugar, or
we could talk about any one of them, But what
I think is relevant is just knowing and understanding with
great compassion.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
That when we don't address these things that take us
out from our full expression experience of our school, we
will be invited to repeat these sessions, to repeat these
lessons of making sure that we are doing self care
and bringing our best and our most to experience and express.

(12:16):
And it's not to say that these things can't be
useful or used, but when it comes to the drug
using us right, then it becomes abusive when it controls
our consciousness, when it prevents us from being present in
our relationships, when it becomes our primary relationship, we have
cross lines. We're not in control, and it's an addictive state.

(12:39):
And again not blaming or judging, but knowing that it's
not our best version, and we have to interrupt the
patterns to get back centered, to get control so that
we are present. It's super important. And if we don't
get to address that, we carry this into the spirit world.
We'll have to review it there and then come back

(13:00):
again to to re you know, establish that we can
manage and not as a punishment, but as a chance
to you know, have victory in this lesson.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay, I'm going to have to confess as you were
as you were speaking, of course, I, as you know
and as everybody should know, I listened to everything you
say and I weirdly remember it. And but I have
to tell you, as you were talking about this, I
had this like hit in my head of what would

(13:36):
you talk about if you don't deal with your ism?
Now you have to deal with it again, right, And
I just remembered and put things together. Oh my god.
And by the way, y'all, you know, I just share
and so open and honest about stuff because I know
I can't be the only one. But here I will
actually give you a case and point to what you

(13:58):
were saying. And Unford, fortunately and fortunately it is me.
And one of the past life readings that I've had,
I was a woman in India who was in an
arranged marriage. I was not happy in this arrange marriage,
and I was specifically told that I became an overeater

(14:19):
back in this life. And isn't that something? And guess
who's dealing with it again in this life? So yeah,
I just am here to say like I am. I
believe a prime example of what you just talked about.
And I just now sat here and as you're putting
together one holy shit, she had talking about me.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
So this isn't Aren't you glad we have the podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Because you know, I don't want to carry aeisms to
another lifetime. And you know I have talked to you
in the past, and I've talked on different episodes about
different isms I've had. I don't know if I was
ever truly an alcoholic. I mean, I've certainly have had
drinks that I've loved, but I'm not a drinker. You know.

(15:07):
It's also the way that my father slowly killed himself,
so there's always that, so I can check that one.
I don't think that was ever mine in the first place,
so let's check it for fun. So I actually have
a checking that in that column right now, like whoa.
But here's what's interesting I've revealed on a show because
you're like, I can't believe I didn't know this, that

(15:28):
there was a perardent in my life when I smoked.
And interesting another connection to this, like somehow my life
is like all falling together here and I'm understanding it.
Live right now with y'all. Is I started smoking because
people women start smoking so they can manage their weight.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
They literally branded it Virginia slims, right.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
They were literally talking to me, But I'm not realizing that. Yeah,
but till now, I didn't like. All the pieces are
now really falling together. So I'm so grateful for this
question because maybe other people can start putting their pieces
together as well.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
And I want to be really clear, you get to
address this not because you're being punished. It's an opportunity
to expand who you are and how you are on
the planet. So I just want to make sure we
ender line.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, well, okay, yes, and thank you for reminding all
of us, including me. And you know there's no secret
I've dealt with weight issues. You know, I know the
origin of it. The origin was when I was five
and my mother married my stepfather, who we all can
agree was an asshole. But you look at photographs of

(16:40):
me pre they got married and then post and I
was probably twice the size. So eating is something like
my life. My past life in India was about discomfort,
and I have found myself. In fact, I am now
working my way out of one of those moment moments,

(17:01):
because this feels like a confessional, another confessional that I
you know, we moved and we've been living in a
rental house and it's being I felt untethered here and
we're soon going to be moving. I just announced, you know,
a little bit ago, and I started to recognize that

(17:24):
I haven't been eating the way I had eaten before,
not as healthy. It's been more unconscious, and so recently
I decided that how I need to deal with this
is I need to like break up with food, not completely.
I'm not starving myself to serve it. Nows this. It
is not even possible for me to starve myself. It's

(17:44):
not possible. But I'm not eating unless I'm hungry. And
it's weird if you listen to your body, and the
same with sugar, by the way, it's like it's like
you got to listen to your body, and my body
hates sugar. It hates I mean, my body hates how
I feel.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Right like our listener when she consumes it, her body's like,
oh no, you don't.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I feel inflammation? Yeah, I mean I am very clear
when I consume sugar, there's inflammation involved for me. But
what I've done. Is I mean, I'll you know, I
it's the afternoon, I actually have it eaten today. It's okay,
I ate yesterday, I get I'll eat today, but I'm
not hungry and I need to. It's weird because what
it reminds me of is and I know, I think

(18:32):
I've talked about this on a past show. One of
my most favorite things in the world I ever did
at work was this movie called The Book Thief, and
I worked with The New York Times because the whole
power message there's so many powerful messages in it, but
one of them was words are life, and I was like,

(18:52):
you know, what would life be without them? And the
way to get people to understand the importance of something
is to take it away. So I'm actually using a
marketing thing I did ten ten years ago, I think
in applying it to my own life, which is I
need to take it away, not all of it, y'all.
So again, don't don't nobody, worry, nobody, call whatever government

(19:16):
thing you would call, do a health check on me.
Is I needed to take it away to be like, Okay,
this is actually what food means. And I know a
lot of people that are have been on wgovy. I
think it's called wagovy ozempic. That's probably one everybody recognizes.
And I think people are actually learning because they aren't

(19:37):
hungry on how food was controlling them and how they
gave into it or in stressful times, Like I've been
in a stressful time of being untethered and I turned
to food for comfort. I've now looked at this and
been like, Okay, I need to work myself out of this,
and that's how I'm going to do it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
And people do that through cleanses, through diet that restrictive diets,
that's that do that sort of version. That's that I'm
going to limit it so that I can get control
and then add in things that support me and I
can stay conscious and like just bring it to the
to the consciousness, because when we operate in comforting habits

(20:19):
or or make choices that are unconscious, like we don't
always choose the greatest good, right right and so, and
food is comforting, like it's it brings great comfort. It
changes our body chemistry. But when you like take something
that isn't healthier, things you know that your body doesn't like,
you have to think about like how how am I

(20:41):
showing self care and self love like this is? You
know how I try and do it. And you know
I struggle too because I do love sugar.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
And by the way, volume, So let's not forget volume,
because that's it. Even though we're calling the sugar monster,
there's also the volume monster as well, because if you
don't feel good, you're going to keep binging. I mean,
I guess it's the definition of binging and to keep
eating right, And it's actually the og definition of binging
is this.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I try to remember that sometimes.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Right, which which is a big part of trying to
feel better when you don't know how like whether no
matter what it is to me, it has always been emotional,
you know, whether it's lost grief of something and again
currently being untethered and reminding myself that that food is

(21:34):
not love. And I also realized it's my responsibility to
which you know we talked about before.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
We're going to talk about again in the next thing.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yes we are.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So we're going to take a break and be right
back and embrace that great responsibility to yourself.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, And I'm gonna go cry in the corner for
a minute and I'll be back Okay, I am back
from the corner. I have white my eyes, and I
think it's time for Brenda to actually give us. Let's
talk about advice and how to cope and deal and

(22:14):
be present. So I'm going to hand it over to
you with you poo poo.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Okay, Well, I'll do my best. I'll do my best.
So I think what's really important about this, just like
anything else that we are working with and learning from
and being curious about our patterns, so we show up
with great open heartedness and compassion. And remember it is
a dial, not a switch, right, because if you have

(22:38):
one hundred percent compliant as your goal, you're going to
fail every time because we're human. But make a frickin' plan.
So this is a small, small thing. But I'm getting
ready to travel for the holidays to be with people.
As we've discussed, I have an onion analogy, so I'm
making sure I am packing food I can eat because

(23:01):
I have to. I cannot rely on other people to
know that scallions and leaks and chives are all part
of the onion family. I can't. I can't count on that,
and I don't blame them. I'm not going to get
mad at them. I'm going to have options that work
for me, and so you too will have options that
work for you. And and this is just it's it's

(23:24):
my responsibility, it's not anyone else's. Now it gets a
little dicey, especially when I'm in someone else's home and
I say, hey, can I see the ingredients, Like it's
because I have to take that step because they're not
going to read the fine print, Like that's that's my responsibility.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
And you actually choose a not not to eat, and
occasions when you question that because of that's not what reaction.
And it ain't pretty, No, it is not.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
It is not pretty.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Go down the hard you do, go down hard.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, And it's it's not a big deal for me
to like, okay, I will eat plain letter like I'm
good with that. So I can eat and be with
among the people and like it's okay food.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
And I do like in a little zippy have like
a protein ball or something that you've made.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I always have nuts. I always have something, you know,
whatever that I can that I can participate in, you know,
the consumption of food. Now, so this is a small thing,
like I said, it's a small thing, but let it
be symbolic that says what can you do now? I
will also say it is, you know, around the holidays
or celebration, I don't drink alcohol. This is something that

(24:33):
people are not comfortable with. They are also not comfortable
with me not drinking coffee in the morning, Like people
don't understand that I don't either.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I don't drink that.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So they're always coming at me in ways like hey,
are you sure you don't want to? Oh, so, okay,
you don't. You don't drink wine. Here's some champagne, Like okay, great,
so I will yeah, and I just hold a champagne
flute because it makes people comfortable. But it's not a problem.
I don't. I don't drink it. I'm not attracted to it.

(25:05):
It's not it's not a struggle for me. But just
like you know, I won't to hold a coffee cap
because I don't like to smell coffee. But like it's
I don't. My point is that I don't expect anyone
to accommodate me because I can't count on that, not
because I think they're evil or I hate them or anything.
It's like it no, I'm I'm responsible. This is on me.

(25:26):
I'm making this choice or I have this situation that
I'm accountable for. I'm not going to blame them. I'm
not going to expect them to accommodate me. I'm going
to be ready for my I you know, whatever whatever
Quippi response you want to make or whatever works for you,
but just prepare, make a plan, prepare, have your whatever

(25:47):
it is that instead of sugar, like, oh no, I
have I have some almonds. Do you want them? Whatever
it is? And they're not chocolate cover, they're just drinking well.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
They have actually some little dusty ones that don't have
a ton of it there's they're called Yeah, those are good.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
And think of it as this is my opportunity. It's
not a burden. This is my opportunity to show myself
and to express my soul in a healthy, balanced way
that works for me. Do I do this perfectly every time? No,
of course not. But I am pretty fierce with the
onion thing.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Will you have me? You know the volume of thing? Right?
The volume thing that I found the worst is it's
like I know you've heard people talk about neo. Never
go to the grocery store hungry, because we end up
earning your part right, Also, never go to an event hungry,
and you know, I like have protein bars, you know,
things that that I'll take. Like we went to the

(26:42):
other night two nights ago, we went to the Santa
Fe Playhouse with a group of friends, and I had
a protein bar in my pocket because if I get hungry,
I get hungry, and then I'll eat whatever's in front
of me. Right, It's impulsive and it feels sometimes, but
that's part of like recognizing to slow down and things
like that. But I keep a backup, so kind of

(27:04):
like how you pack you know, little ziplock maggies of
different things that you need. I think that's part of
managing it if you feel like you have a problem
with it. Right, Because I just did that, I didn't.
I weirdly wasn't hungry, so I didn't. I didn't eat
it even though. And that's the other thing. Just because
it's there doesn't mean you must eat it. And it

(27:24):
was in my pocket and I didn't in the next day,
but not that day.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And again, just like let yourself be proud of I
have a plan, I've taken responsibility and I'm already winning. Like, right,
I'm winning my own life. I don't have to lose
energy about who am I going to fight? How do
I have to reposition? I can just you know, touch
that protein bar in my pocket or whatever's in my bag,

(27:50):
Like I can take care of myself in this way
and just you know, like take care and do you
It's super important.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
And it is and you know what I'm doing right
now is probably after done a recording because I'm starting
to feel a little hungry. Is but this is part
of caring though, is instead of eating anything, my my
plan because again it's about a plan, right is. I
love the Cochava shakes because it's vegan, it has everything

(28:23):
you need, it has protein, it's I mean it's to me,
it's a beautiful shape mix because it hit covers everything.
And that's how I know I'm taking care of my body.
I'm not trying to punish myself right now. I'm trying
to reset, and in my reset, I still need to
take care of the nutrients that I need without going

(28:47):
you know, ape shit or get angry or mad or anything.
Because I don't feel I feel actually like, oh, I
know what I'm doing. I am taking care of myself.
I'm resetting, you know. Uh, And and I think also,
you know, again the holidays that we've talked about. When
you know, if I know people who are alcohol pushers,
they're there coffee pushers, alcohol pushers. They look on people's

(29:09):
face when I'm like, I've never had a cup of
coffee in my life, the look on their face is
like I am an alien. I'm like, okay, well maybe
a little bit, but probably not about this. And they're like, well,
you know, And then I get the twenty questions or
why don't you like coffee? I'm like, it's too bitter
for me. I don't like it, like I actually, what's
wrong with you? I've gotten the I get the same
about sushi too, but what's wrong with you? And I'm like,

(29:31):
I don't like it? I literally, full on, I've tried.
I mean, I put an effort. But then I realized
when I took twenty three in me that I am
really high on the bitterness thing. Not my soul is bitter,
just my taste, but bitter. Sometimes I'm bitter, but I
taste it like if you somebody tastes it normal, it's

(29:54):
ten times but it's not even staying away from the
caffeine it's just I don't like it, and so it's
a very shocky thing. Also, my mother, by the way,
did not drink coffee, so I think that was an
inherited trait. So people are in alcohol, it's like, you know,
I'll be like, oh, no, thank you, I'm good. Oh
you're sure you don't want to I'm good, Thank you
so much. Champagne it's like, no, I'm really, I'm I'm good. Well,

(30:18):
I just got to I've just made up this new
Kraft cocktail. I'm like then okay, yeah, I'm like it's okay.
But they it's and I think people are pushers when
it comes to a lot of the ism, so sugar food,
even cigarettes. Hey I want a cigarette. You know, alcohol, Oh, here,
I have a drink. Have a drink.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
And again, if someone enjoys something so much or is
passionate enough to be making up their own drinks, I
think you can understand they long to share their joy.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yes, they do.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Great, I'm going to challenge you. Can you make me
a you know, a kitty cocktail?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Right? Can you make it? But usually a lot of those,
by the way, have all the sugary stuff in. Yes,
but yeah, like I've done that, you know, I don't,
even though I don't either. To be honest, I really
don't like lemonade water water questions, so I should have
ambuja and they're like huh. But anyway, I think that

(31:13):
we understand and I think the question is a beautiful question.
I think it's a struggle so many of us have,
whether it's sugar or other things that we've discussed. Mind you,
I've hit three of the biggies and uh, but we
have to find a way to take care of ourselves
and and like and like you said, Brenn, it's like
we are perfectly imperfect and if you have a bite

(31:36):
of a cupcake, it will not kill you, but just
don't have it every day, you know, if you can
be more conscious about that and be prepared, like don't
go to a holiday party hungry. Probably a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, And I just think the you know, the listener
for this question because it was also very brave, I
thought to share generous, So thank you because it brings
so it gives us all an opportunity to take a
look at ourselves and say, where where am I choosing
not to honor myself and not to take self care
at the highest level available. So with that, we'll wrap

(32:13):
this up and let you go make your plans and
be accountable and responsible, to shine your right the lightest
and remember our school.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Is hard without the other side. Thank you everybody, Thank
you by with Chipoo.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Thank you mael I, thank you for joining us everyone,
and a special thanks to our producer Joey Patt and
our executive producer Maya Cole Howard who guides us while
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Speaker 1 (32:43):
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Speaker 2 (32:51):
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