September 14, 2022 • 34 mins
What's the difference between clearing out a space and cleansing your space? Today we dive into the nuances and continue our previous discussion—The Purge.
Cleansing a space (aka Smudging) is performed when you need to clear the energy around your home, your relationships, spirits, habit, cords, and patterns. Clearing a space occurs when you need to open up the energetic flow in your home; make room for the new by releasing the old. Your intuition will guide you when it's time to do either or both, and the results of these practices can be felt immediately.
Both practices ask you to consider: what energy supports my vision, and what energy diminishes it? By taking your time, you will feel your way through both practices. Today, we will show you how.
Earth School is hard, and the Other Side is ready and waiting for you to clear the doorway for new blessings and beginnings to come in. Whether it's a dustpan or a smudge stick in hand, let the cleaning begin!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
of My Heart Radio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie. Hi there,
I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side. Now,
y'all need to know that we are obsessed with everything
on the other side. Yes we are, because once you
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learn to navigate the energetic, or to some the invisible world,
life is going to be more fun and much more serene. Heck,
yes it can, because let's be honest, Brian, earth school
is hard. In fact, you taught me that let's crush
earth School together. Well, hello, my witchy Pooh, how in
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the hell are you today? I'm doing grave my own?
How are you? How are you? You know? I'm fabulous,
I'm fabulous. Tell me more. I'm just I just I
feel fabulous. I just feel good. Um. Life is changing,
it's shifted and shaken. And I love this episode that
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we're about ready to embark ones because it is has been.
It is a foundation for me and it has been foundational.
And and we'll just about daily life obviously, but even
with all the moving, with moving, with selling homes and
all that kind of stuff that we'll get into because
I I think it would be really helpful for folks. Well,
I think, well, and that's where this this episode came from, right,
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because we did that episode about making space for the
grace Physically, what it takes to engage to hold stuff
and what it takes engaged to release, you know, emotional, physical, um, mental, energetic, spiritual,
like all all that happens when you whether like for me,
I cleared out a closet. For you, you're clearing out
a house or a resort, right, you're resorting. But this
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is the whole idea of this is really about navigating energy, right,
So that's really what this is. And this is about
navigating yeah, and this is what people asked about, like
what's the difference between smudging and clearing out space? Right?
So and it's nuanced, right, It's very very nuanced, it is.
And I think that you're the best one to probably
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define it, because God knows no mood to understand what
the hell I was. It's just so much more. But
I don't know about that, but I mean know they'd
be entertained if you told the story. Well yeah, and
do well do clod stories for sure, because you can't
stop that. Um. So when we think of like clearing
out spaces. Like for me, when I went to my closet,
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I literally was like, I want to create space in
my business for a new business to flow in because
it's in my office, right. It would be thinking differently
if it were my clothes closet or something, but this
is my office, so like I want, I want to
create space in order and and you know, create clarity
of what I'm offering in the world. And so that's
when I went through and I just cleared everything out.
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And you know, I don't think I told this in
the in the first episode, but then after I finished
that what I thought was gonna take a couple of
hours and ended up taking you know, like multiple hours
over four days. But by the time I finished, literally
the following Monday, like I got this call, a new
business came in and I thought, oh, that's really interesting.
You know, like I hadn't I and it had my
intention clear, but I hadn't realized it would happened so fast,
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and you know, totally grateful and kind of fun and
it's just loving, you know, like a little love bomb
from the universe and says hey, we heard you, and
good work and good on you and let's do this's
be in the flow. And so that's like clearing out
things and it definitely takes focus and energy and you
do have to touch everything right, and that's what you
get really clear about do I want to bring this back,
like this item in my house, Like you get really
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clear because someday I'm going to have to, you know,
release it and take it back out. So like it's
like great clarifying process to go through. But when we
talk about smudging, and that is literally like working the
three dimensional smoke whatever you know. I prefer to use
sage to you, but not everyone uses stage. They used
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different orbs, whatever you would like. But using that smoke
to go down to the foundation of the structure that
you're you're smudging to release energetic patterns, which could be spirits,
which could be habits, which could be past relationships like whatever.
It is, Like that's that's a soul clearing level as
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opposed to I'm just touching my stuff. Does that make sense?
I love that It's like one is like one is
like materialistic and one is like soul level. Yeah, yeah,
that's what it is. And when you're when you're dealing
with the materialistic stuff, you can still set deep spiritual
intentions like like I did, like I like when I
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engaged in my office. Just like you know when you're
getting ready, you know, going through this house, the house
you're currently into, the house that you're moving to or creating,
you're being very specific about what goes with you and
what does it. Yes, yes, it's not just it's not
just what will be. We'll fit in the truck right right,
we're exactly exactly. But we even did to sell our homes.
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We did, we we we go, we do, we work,
and we made it really easy from my high school
boyfriend and his husband, who are our realtors. Since I
love saying that so much, it makes people stop and think,
what did she just say? But we made their doublet easier.
And the house is beautiful. I saw it online, But
the house is beautiful. It was Christine and like it
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just screamed, yeah, it was perfect. But here's the thing,
just like anything else, right, like you can you can
meet a supermodel and if they're a dick, they're going
to be ugly to you. And so even though our
house looked great, we needed the energy to match what
it looked like. We needed it to be inviting. Frankly,
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we needed to clear all of our ship out, and
I don't mean just physical ship, but we needed to
clear our stuff out. And so and we did this
in Sherman Oaks as well, and we sold that house
in fact, and and it's it's it's the funniest thing.
The day after we did it there, we had an
offer on the house. Yeah, right, Suzanne actually met those owners.
And I'm actually I'm telling the story for a reason
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so those that are wanting to sell or buy, like
you pay attention to these things, and so this is
a you know, helpful hint from the elf. But we
had to remove our cords, like were recorded to the house.
A lot had gone on there. We'd spent fifteen years
in that house, you know, and there was a lot
that went on, and we had to remove our connections
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to it because it didn't need to be ours anymore.
And you know, so much, so much that house, and
it was a big part of our life. It was exciting,
like it was. There were devastations, there were it's the
whole rollercoaster of life happened there, and we need to
remove that because we needed to invite other people in.
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You know, we needed to make it where it's not our,
it's not ours, it's it needs to be somebody else's.
And so with this house, we knew right from the
start that's what we needed to do. And um, I
learned well because of Florida and in l A. I
I cleared that thing so fast and that's sold within days.
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This house was more of a concern just because you know,
it's a little on the higher end for the area,
you know, for the for the in in anyway, it's
a giant house. It's just it's a big, gess house.
So Suzanne and I, I did a guided meditation for
us and it was great, actually, and and and I
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would speak and then we would take a moment to
kind of go through it. But like things like that
that I walked us through were all of the areas
that we wanted to give gratitude that we were here.
So we started with gratitude. They started with like being
so thankful that this was such a great place to
hold us during you know, the scary parts of COVID.
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It was a great place to nest, It was a
great place to feel secure. Neither one of us actually,
you know, had COVID during that, you know, the pre
vaccine time. Um right, We're very grateful. There were things
were really grateful for. We're grateful for the people the
new people were able to meet. You know, we just
went through the whole gratefulness aspect of it and the
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good news that took a while. But then the other
thing that we had to do, and this is really important,
is we had to forgive ourselves and forgive other people's people.
I said people's people, to give other people people for
the things that we wanted to have happened but didn't,
for the things that didn't go well. You know. So
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there was the gratitude and then there was the forgiveness part.
And then the last thing that we did is we both,
in our own way, swept through the household energy to
clear all of our stuff out. And Suzanne like when
she described to me what she experienced, like she goes,
I'd like saw this gust of wind, like going through
the doorways and clearing things out when it was sparkle
d when it was done. Like so we both did
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the work and and and felt great afterwards, like we
felt so good. We're like, oh my gosh, this place
is clear you know. Um so uh. We left on
a Sunday two. We had a little tour, went to Austin,
then we went to Santa Fe and John came in,
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did the photographs, all the kind of stuff. We had
an offer on the first day, and then halfway in
the half way into the second day, we had an
almost bidding war. But there was only thirty minutes left
on the first offer and it was too much pressure
for the second couple. But that's how fast it can
move if you do the work and pay attention and
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want it to. Because here's the thing. When people walk
into your home, they feel it. Don't think that they
see it first. They feel it first, and of course
they look around seeing all the black rocks and all
the corners of all the windows and doors and stuff,
but they don't think twice about it because it feels great. Yeah, exactly,
that's exactly right. So we did the physical part, We
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did the spiritual, the meditation part of it. We went
through I walked us through a grounding meditation to make
sure we're both locked into the center of the earth.
Did the whole thing and it literally paid off, literally
created space. Yeah, literally paid like cash cash money it's awesome.
And the funny thing is is that we got an
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all cash offer, so that's what I'm saying. It paid.
That's right. There was no bank involved, nothing like that.
It's like it was a cash offer and it literally paid.
And so we were inviting that in and that's what
came in. And this stuff like this is real. This
is the first time. This is the third time I've
done this, stump, if not fourth that I've done this,
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And it matters people. So if you're in that position,
that's its start with ground yourself, gratitude and forgiveness right
of yourself and other people, um and other people. And
I'm going to say people, um and and spend time
with it. Sit with it, don't rush through it, run
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off to dinner, don't do whatever, like take your time spacious. Yes, yes,
and with that that's moving energy. We are going to
be right back. Yes, we are after this with more energy.
All right, everybody, We are back with a witchy poo
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and a vortex. Was just sharing during the break the
story that I think I've told you before, but it's
it's worth it in this in this clearing versus smudging,
and how they can be the same and they can
be separate, right, someone can be strictly physical and when
you know, but they can work together. So my house
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was my little house was virtue. It was empty. It
was it was literally empty in the hottest mark It
selling market ever and I couldn't sell this house been
on the market for maybe six weeks. I was like,
come on, are you kidding? I smudged right, I was like,
are you kidding me? And you know, and someone someone
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else went in and planted at St. Anthony upside down
in the front yard like we've done, you know. We
did all the things. And then I was hosting an
event for my my reading students, my psychic development students,
and we we were hosting an event where they would
bring people and they would bring friends that they would
read for their friends like each other. So the people
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they didn't know, but they read for each other's friends.
And I was supervising. And then of course one of
the friends didn't show up. So I sat in with
one of my students. I'm like, you gotta read, you
gotta read me, and she's like, oh, I don't want to.
I don't know, and she says to me, horrified, I know,
I know. She was she would guess the worst thing ever,
you're like the queen, how do you read for the queen? Right?
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Clearly that it was very helpful. It was all predestined
because that she says to me, you left something at
your house. I'm like, trust me, no, there's there's nothing
at that house. So there's not except for the plants
that are planted in the ground and they're staying right,
but nothing else is in that house. Because now you
left something at the house. And all of a sudden
it hit me that after I'd been there maybe to
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three weeks, two vortexes opened up in the house. And
they well, one opened up upstairs, and then like a
little bit like a couple like a week later one
opened up downstairs, and then like a year later some
another one opened up in the fireplace. But it was
such an awesome house. Like the fact this house wasn't
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limitating was amazing. But here nor there um And like
I had gone in and deep purpleized the house. I
painted everything white, like you know, like I had taken
care of it. You're so funny, I had, right, yeah,
like it's what I did. I had a d skull.
I can't have people in Arkansas looking at my skull
collection of skulls I knew. I knew my skull no way,
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but so anyhow, so I'm like, oh my god, the
vortexas I forgot to shut down the vortexas because I didn't.
I didn't really want to to tell you the truth,
right because I've only moved a block away and I wanted,
you know, I can still feel it. And so I
pick up that VAD because I'm like, you have to
come with me. You've gotta shut down the vortexas He's like, okay, whatever,
I don't really know what you're talking about, and walking out,
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and from his perspective because how he tells the stories,
he goes. So I'm just standing there, you know, because
I don't know what she's doing, and she's like maybe
a foot away from the wall, and she's nodding and
she's crying and she's thinking them, you know, like she's
making prayer hands in front like I don't because I'm
having this telepathic conversation with the energy of the vortex
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that says, we open to support your work, we open
to support you. I'm like, yeah, but you just have
to be a little quiet until the new owners move in,
you know, and they're like, oh no, no, no, we're
shutting down. We're not opening up ever again. And it
just broke my heart. I'm like, are you sure, are
you can't to are you sure you want to shut down?
And so anyhow, that was a conversation. So it wasn't
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a thing, and it wasn't my energy that right, that
was left behind because I didn't I didn't think of
it as mine, so I wouldn't have thought to shut
it down. But it was an energy pattern that supported
the life that lived that that was in that house, right,
So you have to be really aware when we sweep
through the house energetically, what what we're leaving. How fast
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did itself? Oh by the end of it, like that
was on a on a Wednesday, and by Friday I
had an offer and like close closed within ten days. Yeah, yeah,
it's insane, Like once you actually can start dealing with this.
And I to have a talk with my dad not
to scare people. I forgot to have a conversation with
my mor texes not to scare people. Yeah, you forgot
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to have a conversation. But I knew I needed to
talk to my dad to not scare people because he
would have because he's just protecting he didn't know. Yeah,
well you gotta tell him, though, you gotta tell him.
I know that's I gotta tell you. Can you move
on and help us find a place in Santa Fe
because that's how we're going next, right, because he would
have been bailed at a hell of a job with that.
By the way, Okay, so this is about or Texas.
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That whole places of Vortex. Yeah, that's right, that's right,
that's gonna be. That'll be for a future show for sure, right,
all the haunted. Oh my god, I will have a
whole Haunted State of Face season. Yeah. I don't even
don't even get me started. Um yeah, we'll speaking of haunted.
Yeah yeah, back to your theater. Yeah, I really want
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to go and cleared that space. I believe that I
have permission. It's actually I found out it's owned by
the city, and um right, I didn't know that. And
I have people working on this because I know that
this needs to happen. Because I was over at OJ's
house last night and o J was talking about um
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because I told her we were probably gonna talk about this,
and I and she was talking about how you know
years ago, she could feel it. She's just you know, sensitive,
and she goes, but I couldn't feel it until I
was up in the dressing room like up top, and
it was like kind of small. And then when we
went in just you know recently, she goes, I it's
it got it's gotten bigger. Well, it's gotten more intense.
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Well I think that did they shut it down for
a time, Yeah, to renovate. Okay, okay, because that's when
it went everywhere, because before it was contained and then
when they shut it down and started tearing stuff down,
it just went everywhere. That's what That's what it feels
like to me. It is it's still concentrated. That it's
still concentrated around the stage versus the audience, but it's
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not it's not contained on the stage in any way,
shape or form. So when you go, be rested, be mindful,
and keep yourself lots of time. Okay. So now, um,
this is where smudging comes in. Yes, yes, yeah, it's
super important. Are there any anything else? Because I mean
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I could go at any time to go do this
because I believe I have permission from Barbara Smith, the
one who had the event. The event was for her,
and I think she has the ability to make that decision.
And I weirdly know the mayor and all these other
people because it's a small town. I mean, they're younger
than me. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, But I believe I
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have permission so I could be called at any time
to go do this. And is there anything that you
see because I know and Julie talked about because she
of course listens to our show and she listened to
the episode when you held up four fingers and said
there's four Guardians and she goes she was I got
goose bumps and it freaked me out. You know, she
loved it, like she was probably our best audience for
that show because she was there. But is there anything
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else that you could see that what you would guide
me to go do while I was there? Well, there's
a couple of things right now so you can see
is a closed to right now so I can see that.
Cooks don get that we're on video. But this is
what I this is what I think. First of all,
I would go back to find out who the original
architect of the theater was because I feel like the
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person who built that loved it and and it actually
gives me chills when I'm saying it loved it and
created as a space of community and and so to
reconnect with the original purpose of the of this space,
the sacred space, well it'll help it. Well, what it does,
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it gives I know I do too. So what it does,
it gives you the anchor to the foundation, which will
keep you aligned to the mission because that's what you're
going to restore it to. And it's the foundation that
that is put into that and so everything else is
just noise on top, and so it will supersede anything
that moved in. Does that make sense? You're still going
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to have to deal with all the noise and and
and that is not a small thing. But having this
anchor and be singularly focused on its restoration, um big, Yeah,
that's closed portals before. This is not like that. This
is this is no this is like a tidal wave now.
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And I think you really do need to talk to
to my friend Toby Toby Christians then, because he's he's
he is, as he calls himself, a badass shaman, you know,
and usually people who call them shaman the shamans and
like little but he's got the he's got the goods.
So but he is he's like the real now, he is,
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he's the real deal. And he usually just says that
to people who knows not to not out in the world.
But he'll he'll give you, he'll either go with you
or give you guidings. But he's he's the real deal.
But again, having that that anchor to the foundation, yeah, yeah,
that'll that'll help a lot. And what I like about
it so much is it it puts the focus on
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the restoration and not on the invasion, because that's just
literally is just noise. I mean, these spirits. I'm not
saying that the black magic isn't real, because it's real,
um and and it's it's real and active, like it
doesn't mind if it hurts people. Like that's like what
I like, that's the kind of what we're here for. Um.
But but it's it's kind of like it's kind of
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like teenagers who don't have authority, who aren't paying attention
to the authority or haven't who who who aren't don't
don't have any authority present, is what I want to say.
And once and you know, like when once authority shows
up and like it's like I'm I'm in charge here
and I'm sorry. You know, either you either comply or
you leave. You know, they shape up usually, right, And
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I feel like that's what's going to happen with these spirits.
But they've just run rampant for so long and and
people are afraid of them, but they don't know what
to do about it. So when it is literally chaos,
it's yeah, and they're they're breaking ship, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I feel like I want a little sulfur with me, lots,
not little, lots, lots of black ternaline, lots of and
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then I think I need to and that was gonna
say salt and selenite, like on the outside, planting black
turmaline selenite in salt on the outside. That's what I
would do. Yeah, And and this is not my you know,
you're actually you're you're good with this. Well, I just
that I got down, but it's like I I but
I see like pulling out all of it. You know
what else I did when I was like packing up stuff,
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I ran across a whole bunch of holy water that
I bought from the guy on Etsy that ship worked before.
Does that on Alex's house, It does. It absolutely works
if it's good. But do you know you just make
me nervous when you buy sh No, but it's old.
It's like I bought it like from the early What
was that guy's name? Crap, what was his name? The guy? Anyway,
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a book reader will remind me what the guy's name
is that I bought off off off of any but um,
I used that same Holy Water and Alex's condo in
l A and definitely it worked. But anyway, I just
want to cross that was hugely successful. I have other
whole water too, but that's my old holy water, that's
my Etsy Water. It's my holy Etsy Water. It's gonna
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be perfect. It's gonna be perfect, there's no doubt. All Right,
we need to take a break and we will be Okay, everybody,
We're back. We are we are back. We're back. Uh.
And I think that Brenda, you just got confirmation in
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our break that you weren't missing anything. It was really
all about they founder and that these these spirits have
literally moved in and taken it over. I mean it's
just they've just they've moved in like they think it's
their's and that's gonna that's going to be the challenge.
It was so clear to me. I it's you know,
and I am a bit of a badass. I mean,
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I'm not as talented as your friend Toby, but I
got a few skills up my sleeve. But I'm fearless
as one of them. And I'm telling you it is
and it's it might be like ignorance, but I'm going
to go with it. You're trained, but sometimes you're fearless
because you don't know any better. It's like a kid
when kids do stupid ship because they're fearless. But that's
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but I have never and the disorientation, right, the disorientation,
Oh my god, never encounter with something like that. I mean,
so they're skilled. These these are cards. They are Yeah, yeah,
And I guess, I guess like when I deal with
the whole thing, am I going to have to deal
with the four kind of guards separately? Or could I
deal with them altogether? Because they're they're together, you can
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do together. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. I just want to
describe everybody, which is because we have this moment of
silence and it's my most favorite thing ever, and tell
everybody when I just saw because because I have I
have my eyes open this time, and um, I saw
you and your gut quiet, and then your eyes shifted over.
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I guess they shifted over to your lap and like
you did this like shifty, and I see you kind
of nod and I'm like, I know what she's doing.
It's my most favorite thing ever, just talking to my
guides and making sure did they say anything else. They
said that they individuated a single energy because that was
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the most effective way to cover the territory. But it
is one energy, and because they do it so efficiently
that they can make it a lot more, So it
can be twenty, it can be two. It's like Medusa.
Yeah you cut off one and ten more grow back. So, um,
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you got to go to the core, which is why
you're going to the foundation, right that we got to
go to the core. And I also think I physically
know where the core is. Where is that? I think
I know where it is in the theater. It is
up the stairs, and actually I think it's probably in
the dressing room. And I think what I felt was
pushing me back off the stairs. Yeah it's not up this,
it's upstairs, but it's not up the stairs like it's
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the dressing rooms are upstairs. I'm assuming with their showing,
but it's this. Yeah, they but when they put the
the guards on the stairs, then they don't have to
deal with you finding the core. Do you know what
I'm saying? Absolutely? Oh chills, Yeah, because that's who knocked
me down. I mean, like, I think that's the one
that when we talked about this however long go on
the show, I saw one and I think it's because
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it was the one that got me. Oh yeah, that
makes sense right, Yeah, I mean like a punch in
the gut where I wanted to vomit. And I will
tell you everybody that's listening, and if you retell your
to your friends, I have a cast iron stomach. I
don't have stomach issues. Nope. Now I could sneeze and
get snotty and get a science infection from something, but
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I do not get stomach. Stomach issues are not my jam.
Stomach is actually my antenna, to be real, honest, it is.
It is antenna. I know things based on how I
feel in my stomach, Like if it's something like that,
I know great grief comes through my stomach. I know,
like all those things and so so discomfort comes through
your stomach from something you stomach. Yeah, yeah, that's great,
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that's great. I mean I can eat anything expired food
all day long. Fine. And it drives Susann crazy. It's
like she's like, it's like a yogurt. She's like, baby,
it's past. Do I go. It looks fine, there's nothing
green on it. And but this, this is I was
inherited from my mother. It's because she was the same.
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She just stepped forward. She was like, that's my girl. Yeah, right,
Like and like, did you teach her that? And you
say that I got that from my mom? Like I
was just like, god, yeah I did. I mean, it's
like if it's not moldy eat it. So anyway, that's
why the castAR in stomach. So I'm just saying that's
why it is that I didn't actually until the moment
ago Um ever articulate that that's why antenna, because I
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believe that is why antenna and the other thing. People
when we're talking about clearing and smudging, like when even
when you're earing out things, pay attention to what you know,
where the energy goes when you grab something, does it
go up and elevating, does it go down? In a grounding.
Does it feel heavy like I don't even want this?
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Does it feel light like it's going to float away
to someone else with a lot of ease, Like pay
attention to how things are feeling as you're clearing things
out in the material field, and then pay attention to
how things are feeling when you're smudging. Because we had
actually smudged maybe a couple of weeks before I decided
to attack my closet. Address my closet, I should say, um,
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and I was like, uh, this, this has got to change.
This cannot be like this. You know this, you know
this fallout from the pandemic. And so that's where I decided, Okay,
that's what I'm going to focus my energy. Because it
just felt so heavy even after I smudged. I'm like,
of course, I've got all kinds of stuff in there
I don't need. I literally found like people shipped Christmas
stuff that like treats and cookies and stuff like you know,
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I don't want to eat. So I put in the
cloud because I just couldn't. I couldn't even keep up,
like and like they were in tins. It's not like
they were mice in there or something, you know, whatever,
because they were sure. I was like, oh, I can't, like, oh,
for the love of God. And truthfully, I don't even
know if they were from this past Christmas or the
Christmas before. Like that's how I was in such a
haze for right for two years, all I did was work.
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So yeah, but that's how how to touch I was.
So that can't tell everybody for a fact, I do
not send you food. No, definitely, definitely, not cookies, definitely,
it's not but anyhow no onions definitely not onions definitely.
But but but to pay attention to how it's feeling,
because that's how you'll know, oh it's times as much.
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That's how you'll know like, oh this is this just
feels heavy to me. I'm going to address this corner.
Yeah yeah, I mean I'll say when I went in
when I when I first walked into the Coleman Theater,
I just walked in like the threshold and I was like, yeah,
like heavy, pay attention, yeah, lead, yeah, like heavy, I'm
walking through slood. Yeah, yes, yes, and go ahead. I
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was just gonna say, and that is like always my
sign that I need to go smudge and clear like
a space. It's because of it's we've got to light
in this load now. It's just because I interpreted juice.
But like on the other end of the spectrum, my
dear friend Siana just returned from leading a merry pilgrimage
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in the south of France where Mary Magdalen spent thirty
years of her life, right the last three years of
her life. And she brought me back like a merry
metal and a little rose quartz and things that she
took to all these shrines and meditated with it. And
she's like here and she drops it in my hands,
and I swear to God, I had to grab something
because the room started spinning. I was I was instantly
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transported to these places like like pay attention to like
and she's like, she's like, I'm sorry, this is a
little I'm like, are you kidding me? Like practically blew
my hat off. It was such a blessing. It was
such it was so extraordinary. Um, you know, my connection
to Mary goes way way, way, way way back, and
and anyhow, so like like pay attention to that things
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and energy and fields and how they support you and
how they diminish you, and then honor those guidance, right,
so good. It's house cleaning, folks. I mean that's the
other thing. It's like, if you're going to do spring cleaning,
just clean the energy too, if you're you know, just
I also made the spray that I use, and I
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just like do a little touch up, you know. It's like,
I love, I love that spray. Spray is really good,
isn't it. It's really good and so convenient. It's amazing
because it's a spray. It's like a cheater. It's kind
of like kinite. It is like if you don't have
time to align your chakras, it's wave that kinite in
front of you and boom. This is like a cheat
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or spray for sure, without a doubt. So with that,
I keep it in my car, by the way, kind
of you know, the spray. I keep the both actually
ill that you ask, I actually have them both, actually
have the kind I'm looking at the spring right now
and it's right over there in my mind. That's hilarious.
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I need to actually mass produce that. That's not going
to happen until after we move, but it might be
something if you guys, tell us if you want us
to do that, because if you don't I'm not going
to go through the hassle. But if you guys want
a cheater clearing spray, then I can make it. Cheater
makes it sound like it's it's not powerful, like it's
just like it's a little bit. It's it's real. How
about it shortcut called cheater because it's a short cut. Yeah,
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it's really good though, it's shortcut and it's fantastic. It's
a frankincense. It's in sacred Frankincense's amazing. Yeah, a Polo
Santo and holy water not from Etsy. And on that note,
thanks for listening everybody, and have ng and smudging and
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learn to navigate the energetic, or to some the invisible world,
life is going to be more fun and much more serene. Heck,
yes it can, because let's be honest, Brian, earth school
is hard. In fact, you taught me that let's crush
earth School together. Well, hello, my witchy Pooh, how in
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the hell are you today? I'm doing grave my own?
How are you? How are you? You know? I'm fabulous,
I'm fabulous. Tell me more. I'm just I just I
feel fabulous. I just feel good. Um. Life is changing,
it's shifted and shaken. And I love this episode that
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we're about ready to embark ones because it is has been.
It is a foundation for me and it has been foundational.
And and we'll just about daily life obviously, but even
with all the moving, with moving, with selling homes and
all that kind of stuff that we'll get into because
I I think it would be really helpful for folks. Well,
I think, well, and that's where this this episode came from, right,
(01:30):
because we did that episode about making space for the
grace Physically, what it takes to engage to hold stuff
and what it takes engaged to release, you know, emotional, physical, um, mental, energetic, spiritual,
like all all that happens when you whether like for me,
I cleared out a closet. For you, you're clearing out
a house or a resort, right, you're resorting. But this
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is the whole idea of this is really about navigating energy, right,
So that's really what this is. And this is about
navigating yeah, and this is what people asked about, like
what's the difference between smudging and clearing out space? Right?
So and it's nuanced, right, It's very very nuanced, it is.
And I think that you're the best one to probably
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define it, because God knows no mood to understand what
the hell I was. It's just so much more. But
I don't know about that, but I mean know they'd
be entertained if you told the story. Well yeah, and
do well do clod stories for sure, because you can't
stop that. Um. So when we think of like clearing
out spaces. Like for me, when I went to my closet,
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I literally was like, I want to create space in
my business for a new business to flow in because
it's in my office, right. It would be thinking differently
if it were my clothes closet or something, but this
is my office, so like I want, I want to
create space in order and and you know, create clarity
of what I'm offering in the world. And so that's
when I went through and I just cleared everything out.
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And you know, I don't think I told this in
the in the first episode, but then after I finished
that what I thought was gonna take a couple of
hours and ended up taking you know, like multiple hours
over four days. But by the time I finished, literally
the following Monday, like I got this call, a new
business came in and I thought, oh, that's really interesting.
You know, like I hadn't I and it had my
intention clear, but I hadn't realized it would happened so fast,
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and you know, totally grateful and kind of fun and
it's just loving, you know, like a little love bomb
from the universe and says hey, we heard you, and
good work and good on you and let's do this's
be in the flow. And so that's like clearing out
things and it definitely takes focus and energy and you
do have to touch everything right, and that's what you
get really clear about do I want to bring this back,
like this item in my house, Like you get really
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clear because someday I'm going to have to, you know,
release it and take it back out. So like it's
like great clarifying process to go through. But when we
talk about smudging, and that is literally like working the
three dimensional smoke whatever you know. I prefer to use
sage to you, but not everyone uses stage. They used
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different orbs, whatever you would like. But using that smoke
to go down to the foundation of the structure that
you're you're smudging to release energetic patterns, which could be spirits,
which could be habits, which could be past relationships like whatever.
It is, Like that's that's a soul clearing level as
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opposed to I'm just touching my stuff. Does that make sense?
I love that It's like one is like one is
like materialistic and one is like soul level. Yeah, yeah,
that's what it is. And when you're when you're dealing
with the materialistic stuff, you can still set deep spiritual
intentions like like I did, like I like when I
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engaged in my office. Just like you know when you're
getting ready, you know, going through this house, the house
you're currently into, the house that you're moving to or creating,
you're being very specific about what goes with you and
what does it. Yes, yes, it's not just it's not
just what will be. We'll fit in the truck right right,
we're exactly exactly. But we even did to sell our homes.
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We did, we we we go, we do, we work,
and we made it really easy from my high school
boyfriend and his husband, who are our realtors. Since I
love saying that so much, it makes people stop and think,
what did she just say? But we made their doublet easier.
And the house is beautiful. I saw it online, But
the house is beautiful. It was Christine and like it
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just screamed, yeah, it was perfect. But here's the thing,
just like anything else, right, like you can you can
meet a supermodel and if they're a dick, they're going
to be ugly to you. And so even though our
house looked great, we needed the energy to match what
it looked like. We needed it to be inviting. Frankly,
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we needed to clear all of our ship out, and
I don't mean just physical ship, but we needed to
clear our stuff out. And so and we did this
in Sherman Oaks as well, and we sold that house
in fact, and and it's it's it's the funniest thing.
The day after we did it there, we had an
offer on the house. Yeah, right, Suzanne actually met those owners.
And I'm actually I'm telling the story for a reason
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so those that are wanting to sell or buy, like
you pay attention to these things, and so this is
a you know, helpful hint from the elf. But we
had to remove our cords, like were recorded to the house.
A lot had gone on there. We'd spent fifteen years
in that house, you know, and there was a lot
that went on, and we had to remove our connections
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to it because it didn't need to be ours anymore.
And you know, so much, so much that house, and
it was a big part of our life. It was exciting,
like it was. There were devastations, there were it's the
whole rollercoaster of life happened there, and we need to
remove that because we needed to invite other people in.
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You know, we needed to make it where it's not our,
it's not ours, it's it needs to be somebody else's.
And so with this house, we knew right from the
start that's what we needed to do. And um, I
learned well because of Florida and in l A. I
I cleared that thing so fast and that's sold within days.
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This house was more of a concern just because you know,
it's a little on the higher end for the area,
you know, for the for the in in anyway, it's
a giant house. It's just it's a big, gess house.
So Suzanne and I, I did a guided meditation for
us and it was great, actually, and and and I
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would speak and then we would take a moment to
kind of go through it. But like things like that
that I walked us through were all of the areas
that we wanted to give gratitude that we were here.
So we started with gratitude. They started with like being
so thankful that this was such a great place to
hold us during you know, the scary parts of COVID.
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It was a great place to nest, It was a
great place to feel secure. Neither one of us actually,
you know, had COVID during that, you know, the pre
vaccine time. Um right, We're very grateful. There were things
were really grateful for. We're grateful for the people the
new people were able to meet. You know, we just
went through the whole gratefulness aspect of it and the
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good news that took a while. But then the other
thing that we had to do, and this is really important,
is we had to forgive ourselves and forgive other people's people.
I said people's people, to give other people people for
the things that we wanted to have happened but didn't,
for the things that didn't go well. You know. So
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there was the gratitude and then there was the forgiveness part.
And then the last thing that we did is we both,
in our own way, swept through the household energy to
clear all of our stuff out. And Suzanne like when
she described to me what she experienced, like she goes,
I'd like saw this gust of wind, like going through
the doorways and clearing things out when it was sparkle
d when it was done. Like so we both did
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the work and and and felt great afterwards, like we
felt so good. We're like, oh my gosh, this place
is clear you know. Um so uh. We left on
a Sunday two. We had a little tour, went to Austin,
then we went to Santa Fe and John came in,
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did the photographs, all the kind of stuff. We had
an offer on the first day, and then halfway in
the half way into the second day, we had an
almost bidding war. But there was only thirty minutes left
on the first offer and it was too much pressure
for the second couple. But that's how fast it can
move if you do the work and pay attention and
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want it to. Because here's the thing. When people walk
into your home, they feel it. Don't think that they
see it first. They feel it first, and of course
they look around seeing all the black rocks and all
the corners of all the windows and doors and stuff,
but they don't think twice about it because it feels great. Yeah, exactly,
that's exactly right. So we did the physical part, We
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did the spiritual, the meditation part of it. We went
through I walked us through a grounding meditation to make
sure we're both locked into the center of the earth.
Did the whole thing and it literally paid off, literally
created space. Yeah, literally paid like cash cash money it's awesome.
And the funny thing is is that we got an
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all cash offer, so that's what I'm saying. It paid.
That's right. There was no bank involved, nothing like that.
It's like it was a cash offer and it literally paid.
And so we were inviting that in and that's what
came in. And this stuff like this is real. This
is the first time. This is the third time I've
done this, stump, if not fourth that I've done this,
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And it matters people. So if you're in that position,
that's its start with ground yourself, gratitude and forgiveness right
of yourself and other people, um and other people. And
I'm going to say people, um and and spend time
with it. Sit with it, don't rush through it, run
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off to dinner, don't do whatever, like take your time spacious. Yes, yes,
and with that that's moving energy. We are going to
be right back. Yes, we are after this with more energy.
All right, everybody, We are back with a witchy poo
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and a vortex. Was just sharing during the break the
story that I think I've told you before, but it's
it's worth it in this in this clearing versus smudging,
and how they can be the same and they can
be separate, right, someone can be strictly physical and when
you know, but they can work together. So my house
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was my little house was virtue. It was empty. It
was it was literally empty in the hottest mark It
selling market ever and I couldn't sell this house been
on the market for maybe six weeks. I was like,
come on, are you kidding? I smudged right, I was like,
are you kidding me? And you know, and someone someone
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else went in and planted at St. Anthony upside down
in the front yard like we've done, you know. We
did all the things. And then I was hosting an
event for my my reading students, my psychic development students,
and we we were hosting an event where they would
bring people and they would bring friends that they would
read for their friends like each other. So the people
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they didn't know, but they read for each other's friends.
And I was supervising. And then of course one of
the friends didn't show up. So I sat in with
one of my students. I'm like, you gotta read, you
gotta read me, and she's like, oh, I don't want to.
I don't know, and she says to me, horrified, I know,
I know. She was she would guess the worst thing ever,
you're like the queen, how do you read for the queen? Right?
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Clearly that it was very helpful. It was all predestined
because that she says to me, you left something at
your house. I'm like, trust me, no, there's there's nothing
at that house. So there's not except for the plants
that are planted in the ground and they're staying right,
but nothing else is in that house. Because now you
left something at the house. And all of a sudden
it hit me that after I'd been there maybe to
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three weeks, two vortexes opened up in the house. And
they well, one opened up upstairs, and then like a
little bit like a couple like a week later one
opened up downstairs, and then like a year later some
another one opened up in the fireplace. But it was
such an awesome house. Like the fact this house wasn't
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limitating was amazing. But here nor there um And like
I had gone in and deep purpleized the house. I
painted everything white, like you know, like I had taken
care of it. You're so funny, I had, right, yeah,
like it's what I did. I had a d skull.
I can't have people in Arkansas looking at my skull
collection of skulls I knew. I knew my skull no way,
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but so anyhow, so I'm like, oh my god, the
vortexas I forgot to shut down the vortexas because I didn't.
I didn't really want to to tell you the truth,
right because I've only moved a block away and I wanted,
you know, I can still feel it. And so I
pick up that VAD because I'm like, you have to
come with me. You've gotta shut down the vortexas He's like, okay, whatever,
I don't really know what you're talking about, and walking out,
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and from his perspective because how he tells the stories,
he goes. So I'm just standing there, you know, because
I don't know what she's doing, and she's like maybe
a foot away from the wall, and she's nodding and
she's crying and she's thinking them, you know, like she's
making prayer hands in front like I don't because I'm
having this telepathic conversation with the energy of the vortex
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that says, we open to support your work, we open
to support you. I'm like, yeah, but you just have
to be a little quiet until the new owners move in,
you know, and they're like, oh no, no, no, we're
shutting down. We're not opening up ever again. And it
just broke my heart. I'm like, are you sure, are
you can't to are you sure you want to shut down?
And so anyhow, that was a conversation. So it wasn't
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a thing, and it wasn't my energy that right, that
was left behind because I didn't I didn't think of
it as mine, so I wouldn't have thought to shut
it down. But it was an energy pattern that supported
the life that lived that that was in that house, right,
So you have to be really aware when we sweep
through the house energetically, what what we're leaving. How fast
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did itself? Oh by the end of it, like that
was on a on a Wednesday, and by Friday I
had an offer and like close closed within ten days. Yeah, yeah,
it's insane, Like once you actually can start dealing with this.
And I to have a talk with my dad not
to scare people. I forgot to have a conversation with
my mor texes not to scare people. Yeah, you forgot
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to have a conversation. But I knew I needed to
talk to my dad to not scare people because he
would have because he's just protecting he didn't know. Yeah,
well you gotta tell him, though, you gotta tell him.
I know that's I gotta tell you. Can you move
on and help us find a place in Santa Fe
because that's how we're going next, right, because he would
have been bailed at a hell of a job with that.
By the way, Okay, so this is about or Texas.
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That whole places of Vortex. Yeah, that's right, that's right,
that's gonna be. That'll be for a future show for sure, right,
all the haunted. Oh my god, I will have a
whole Haunted State of Face season. Yeah. I don't even
don't even get me started. Um yeah, we'll speaking of haunted.
Yeah yeah, back to your theater. Yeah, I really want
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to go and cleared that space. I believe that I
have permission. It's actually I found out it's owned by
the city, and um right, I didn't know that. And
I have people working on this because I know that
this needs to happen. Because I was over at OJ's
house last night and o J was talking about um
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because I told her we were probably gonna talk about this,
and I and she was talking about how you know
years ago, she could feel it. She's just you know, sensitive,
and she goes, but I couldn't feel it until I
was up in the dressing room like up top, and
it was like kind of small. And then when we
went in just you know recently, she goes, I it's
it got it's gotten bigger. Well, it's gotten more intense.
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Well I think that did they shut it down for
a time, Yeah, to renovate. Okay, okay, because that's when
it went everywhere, because before it was contained and then
when they shut it down and started tearing stuff down,
it just went everywhere. That's what That's what it feels
like to me. It is it's still concentrated. That it's
still concentrated around the stage versus the audience, but it's
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not it's not contained on the stage in any way,
shape or form. So when you go, be rested, be mindful,
and keep yourself lots of time. Okay. So now, um,
this is where smudging comes in. Yes, yes, yeah, it's
super important. Are there any anything else? Because I mean
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I could go at any time to go do this
because I believe I have permission from Barbara Smith, the
one who had the event. The event was for her,
and I think she has the ability to make that decision.
And I weirdly know the mayor and all these other
people because it's a small town. I mean, they're younger
than me. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, But I believe I
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have permission so I could be called at any time
to go do this. And is there anything that you
see because I know and Julie talked about because she
of course listens to our show and she listened to
the episode when you held up four fingers and said
there's four Guardians and she goes she was I got
goose bumps and it freaked me out. You know, she
loved it, like she was probably our best audience for
that show because she was there. But is there anything
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else that you could see that what you would guide
me to go do while I was there? Well, there's
a couple of things right now so you can see
is a closed to right now so I can see that.
Cooks don get that we're on video. But this is
what I this is what I think. First of all,
I would go back to find out who the original
architect of the theater was because I feel like the
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person who built that loved it and and it actually
gives me chills when I'm saying it loved it and
created as a space of community and and so to
reconnect with the original purpose of the of this space,
the sacred space, well it'll help it. Well, what it does,
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it gives I know I do too. So what it does,
it gives you the anchor to the foundation, which will
keep you aligned to the mission because that's what you're
going to restore it to. And it's the foundation that
that is put into that and so everything else is
just noise on top, and so it will supersede anything
that moved in. Does that make sense? You're still going
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to have to deal with all the noise and and
and that is not a small thing. But having this
anchor and be singularly focused on its restoration, um big, Yeah,
that's closed portals before. This is not like that. This
is this is no this is like a tidal wave now.
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And I think you really do need to talk to
to my friend Toby Toby Christians then, because he's he's
he is, as he calls himself, a badass shaman, you know,
and usually people who call them shaman the shamans and
like little but he's got the he's got the goods.
So but he is he's like the real now, he is,
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he's the real deal. And he usually just says that
to people who knows not to not out in the world.
But he'll he'll give you, he'll either go with you
or give you guidings. But he's he's the real deal.
But again, having that that anchor to the foundation, yeah, yeah,
that'll that'll help a lot. And what I like about
it so much is it it puts the focus on
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the restoration and not on the invasion, because that's just
literally is just noise. I mean, these spirits. I'm not
saying that the black magic isn't real, because it's real,
um and and it's it's real and active, like it
doesn't mind if it hurts people. Like that's like what
I like, that's the kind of what we're here for. Um.
But but it's it's kind of like it's kind of
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like teenagers who don't have authority, who aren't paying attention
to the authority or haven't who who who aren't don't
don't have any authority present, is what I want to say.
And once and you know, like when once authority shows
up and like it's like I'm I'm in charge here
and I'm sorry. You know, either you either comply or
you leave. You know, they shape up usually, right, And
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I feel like that's what's going to happen with these spirits.
But they've just run rampant for so long and and
people are afraid of them, but they don't know what
to do about it. So when it is literally chaos,
it's yeah, and they're they're breaking ship, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I feel like I want a little sulfur with me, lots,
not little, lots, lots of black ternaline, lots of and
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then I think I need to and that was gonna
say salt and selenite, like on the outside, planting black
turmaline selenite in salt on the outside. That's what I
would do. Yeah, And and this is not my you know,
you're actually you're you're good with this. Well, I just
that I got down, but it's like I I but
I see like pulling out all of it. You know
what else I did when I was like packing up stuff,
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I ran across a whole bunch of holy water that
I bought from the guy on Etsy that ship worked before.
Does that on Alex's house, It does. It absolutely works
if it's good. But do you know you just make
me nervous when you buy sh No, but it's old.
It's like I bought it like from the early What
was that guy's name? Crap, what was his name? The guy? Anyway,
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a book reader will remind me what the guy's name
is that I bought off off off of any but um,
I used that same Holy Water and Alex's condo in
l A and definitely it worked. But anyway, I just
want to cross that was hugely successful. I have other
whole water too, but that's my old holy water, that's
my Etsy Water. It's my holy Etsy Water. It's gonna
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be perfect. It's gonna be perfect, there's no doubt. All Right,
we need to take a break and we will be Okay, everybody,
We're back. We are we are back. We're back. Uh.
And I think that Brenda, you just got confirmation in
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our break that you weren't missing anything. It was really
all about they founder and that these these spirits have
literally moved in and taken it over. I mean it's
just they've just they've moved in like they think it's
their's and that's gonna that's going to be the challenge.
It was so clear to me. I it's you know,
and I am a bit of a badass. I mean,
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I'm not as talented as your friend Toby, but I
got a few skills up my sleeve. But I'm fearless
as one of them. And I'm telling you it is
and it's it might be like ignorance, but I'm going
to go with it. You're trained, but sometimes you're fearless
because you don't know any better. It's like a kid
when kids do stupid ship because they're fearless. But that's
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but I have never and the disorientation, right, the disorientation,
Oh my god, never encounter with something like that. I mean,
so they're skilled. These these are cards. They are Yeah, yeah,
And I guess, I guess like when I deal with
the whole thing, am I going to have to deal
with the four kind of guards separately? Or could I
deal with them altogether? Because they're they're together, you can
(24:32):
do together. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. I just want to
describe everybody, which is because we have this moment of
silence and it's my most favorite thing ever, and tell
everybody when I just saw because because I have I
have my eyes open this time, and um, I saw
you and your gut quiet, and then your eyes shifted over.
(24:55):
I guess they shifted over to your lap and like
you did this like shifty, and I see you kind
of nod and I'm like, I know what she's doing.
It's my most favorite thing ever, just talking to my
guides and making sure did they say anything else. They
said that they individuated a single energy because that was
(25:15):
the most effective way to cover the territory. But it
is one energy, and because they do it so efficiently
that they can make it a lot more, So it
can be twenty, it can be two. It's like Medusa.
Yeah you cut off one and ten more grow back. So, um,
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you got to go to the core, which is why
you're going to the foundation, right that we got to
go to the core. And I also think I physically
know where the core is. Where is that? I think
I know where it is in the theater. It is
up the stairs, and actually I think it's probably in
the dressing room. And I think what I felt was
pushing me back off the stairs. Yeah it's not up this,
it's upstairs, but it's not up the stairs like it's
(25:58):
the dressing rooms are upstairs. I'm assuming with their showing,
but it's this. Yeah, they but when they put the
the guards on the stairs, then they don't have to
deal with you finding the core. Do you know what
I'm saying? Absolutely? Oh chills, Yeah, because that's who knocked
me down. I mean, like, I think that's the one
that when we talked about this however long go on
the show, I saw one and I think it's because
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it was the one that got me. Oh yeah, that
makes sense right, Yeah, I mean like a punch in
the gut where I wanted to vomit. And I will
tell you everybody that's listening, and if you retell your
to your friends, I have a cast iron stomach. I
don't have stomach issues. Nope. Now I could sneeze and
get snotty and get a science infection from something, but
(26:43):
I do not get stomach. Stomach issues are not my jam.
Stomach is actually my antenna, to be real, honest, it is.
It is antenna. I know things based on how I
feel in my stomach, Like if it's something like that,
I know great grief comes through my stomach. I know,
like all those things and so so discomfort comes through
your stomach from something you stomach. Yeah, yeah, that's great,
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that's great. I mean I can eat anything expired food
all day long. Fine. And it drives Susann crazy. It's
like she's like, it's like a yogurt. She's like, baby,
it's past. Do I go. It looks fine, there's nothing
green on it. And but this, this is I was
inherited from my mother. It's because she was the same.
(27:27):
She just stepped forward. She was like, that's my girl. Yeah, right,
Like and like, did you teach her that? And you
say that I got that from my mom? Like I
was just like, god, yeah I did. I mean, it's
like if it's not moldy eat it. So anyway, that's
why the castAR in stomach. So I'm just saying that's
why it is that I didn't actually until the moment
ago Um ever articulate that that's why antenna, because I
(27:52):
believe that is why antenna and the other thing. People
when we're talking about clearing and smudging, like when even
when you're earing out things, pay attention to what you know,
where the energy goes when you grab something, does it
go up and elevating, does it go down? In a grounding.
Does it feel heavy like I don't even want this?
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Does it feel light like it's going to float away
to someone else with a lot of ease, Like pay
attention to how things are feeling as you're clearing things
out in the material field, and then pay attention to
how things are feeling when you're smudging. Because we had
actually smudged maybe a couple of weeks before I decided
to attack my closet. Address my closet, I should say, um,
(28:35):
and I was like, uh, this, this has got to change.
This cannot be like this. You know this, you know
this fallout from the pandemic. And so that's where I decided, Okay,
that's what I'm going to focus my energy. Because it
just felt so heavy even after I smudged. I'm like,
of course, I've got all kinds of stuff in there
I don't need. I literally found like people shipped Christmas
stuff that like treats and cookies and stuff like you know,
(28:57):
I don't want to eat. So I put in the
cloud because I just couldn't. I couldn't even keep up,
like and like they were in tins. It's not like
they were mice in there or something, you know, whatever,
because they were sure. I was like, oh, I can't, like, oh,
for the love of God. And truthfully, I don't even
know if they were from this past Christmas or the
Christmas before. Like that's how I was in such a
haze for right for two years, all I did was work.
(29:18):
So yeah, but that's how how to touch I was.
So that can't tell everybody for a fact, I do
not send you food. No, definitely, definitely, not cookies, definitely,
it's not but anyhow no onions definitely not onions definitely.
But but but to pay attention to how it's feeling,
because that's how you'll know, oh it's times as much.
(29:40):
That's how you'll know like, oh this is this just
feels heavy to me. I'm going to address this corner.
Yeah yeah, I mean I'll say when I went in
when I when I first walked into the Coleman Theater,
I just walked in like the threshold and I was like, yeah,
like heavy, pay attention, yeah, lead, yeah, like heavy, I'm
walking through slood. Yeah, yes, yes, and go ahead. I
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was just gonna say, and that is like always my
sign that I need to go smudge and clear like
a space. It's because of it's we've got to light
in this load now. It's just because I interpreted juice.
But like on the other end of the spectrum, my
dear friend Siana just returned from leading a merry pilgrimage
(30:27):
in the south of France where Mary Magdalen spent thirty
years of her life, right the last three years of
her life. And she brought me back like a merry
metal and a little rose quartz and things that she
took to all these shrines and meditated with it. And
she's like here and she drops it in my hands,
and I swear to God, I had to grab something
because the room started spinning. I was I was instantly
(30:49):
transported to these places like like pay attention to like
and she's like, she's like, I'm sorry, this is a
little I'm like, are you kidding me? Like practically blew
my hat off. It was such a blessing. It was
such it was so extraordinary. Um, you know, my connection
to Mary goes way way, way, way way back, and
and anyhow, so like like pay attention to that things
(31:12):
and energy and fields and how they support you and
how they diminish you, and then honor those guidance, right,
so good. It's house cleaning, folks. I mean that's the
other thing. It's like, if you're going to do spring cleaning,
just clean the energy too, if you're you know, just
I also made the spray that I use, and I
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just like do a little touch up, you know. It's like,
I love, I love that spray. Spray is really good,
isn't it. It's really good and so convenient. It's amazing
because it's a spray. It's like a cheater. It's kind
of like kinite. It is like if you don't have
time to align your chakras, it's wave that kinite in
front of you and boom. This is like a cheat
(31:54):
or spray for sure, without a doubt. So with that,
I keep it in my car, by the way, kind
of you know, the spray. I keep the both actually
ill that you ask, I actually have them both, actually
have the kind I'm looking at the spring right now
and it's right over there in my mind. That's hilarious.
(32:15):
I need to actually mass produce that. That's not going
to happen until after we move, but it might be
something if you guys, tell us if you want us
to do that, because if you don't I'm not going
to go through the hassle. But if you guys want
a cheater clearing spray, then I can make it. Cheater
makes it sound like it's it's not powerful, like it's
just like it's a little bit. It's it's real. How
about it shortcut called cheater because it's a short cut. Yeah,
(32:37):
it's really good though, it's shortcut and it's fantastic. It's
a frankincense. It's in sacred Frankincense's amazing. Yeah, a Polo
Santo and holy water not from Etsy. And on that note,
thanks for listening everybody, and have ng and smudging and
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maybe even spraying, and remember to sell your house or
it's right, and remember her school is hard without the
other Side. Thanks everybody, Thanks everybody, Thank you for joining us. Everyone,
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and a special thanks to our producer Joey pat and
our executive producer Maya Cole Howard, who guides us well.
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