August 21, 2025 • 33 mins
This week Leslie answers listener questions about staying safe.
01:36 What is the best way to protect myself and my daughter when we have protective orders in place?
04:10 Situational Awareness and Self Defense
12:54 How do we teach kids to trust their instincts and stay safe?
16:07 What safety tips do you have for minors walking alone?
19:08 Can offenders really be rehabilitated?
22:14 How do we protect college aged girls in social settings?
26:10 What can you do to keep yourself safe online?
Hosted by Leslie Dobson. Produced by Liam Billingham. Executive producers are Paul Anderson and Scott McCarthy for Workhouse Media. The views expressed in this podcast episode are solely those of the guest speaker and do not reflect the views of the host or the production company.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Okay, you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome back to Intentionally Disturbing with Doctor Leslie Forensic Psychologists.
Today's episode is going to be a bit different because
I want to answer your questions. So on my social
media platforms, I asked you to submit questions about safety.
I wanted you to ask me about self defense, how
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to protect children, co parenting, online threats, workplace danger. And
here I am answering your questions. Now some I didn't
have the answers to and I had to read about some.
I asked some people in the FBI, some people in
police departments, CIA, other therapists.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And even lawyers.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So I can't own that all of this information is
straight from me, but I can say that it is
professional and reliable. And if you like this episode, let's
keep doing it because if we can keep even one
child or one person safe, it is worth it. We're
going to start with personal safety and self defense questions
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and recommendations. This section focuses on tools, instincts, and strategies
to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life
and high risk situations. So to answer our first question
from at not yours oo love this name?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not sure what it means?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Good boundary setting, though, what is the best form of
protection to keep my daughter and me safe when we
already have protective orders in place. I get this question
a lot, and people may not fully understand it. So
this is likely a mom and a child who has
a restraining order from an ex husband an estranged husband
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or wife, and they are not allowed to be around them,
but the person is still trying to be around them.
One of my biggest recommendations is that you are always
ready to call someone and you know they are going
to answer. You always have your phone charged and on
your favorites list. It's not just nine to one one,
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but it's somebody that you have a promise with that
if your name comes across their phone, they will answer,
and immediately they will start recording everything and anything that
they hear, because you need witnesses if somebody is going
to break a troro. Now. Additionally, there are a lot
of amazing recorders that you can have in your pocket.
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Some are the size of a lip gloss, they're tiny
of a thumb drive, and you can immediately just tap
your pocket and record any noise, anything that shows that
this person is aggressing against you. I also highly recommend
voluntarily offering updates to the police that are involved with
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your case, the detectives, investigators, lawyers, judges. Even if it's
the FBI and you have an FBI agent assigned to you,
update them, let them know what is going on. If
you have the funds for a private investigator. I think
it is very okay to keep tabs on what your
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estranged X is doing. Who are they, where are they?
Are they online? Do they have a social presence? Keep
tabs on them so that you can keep clear from them.
But the biggest thing is to be aware. You don't
want to be crazy and paranoid, right, but you have
to be vigilant. And this is a very high stakes game,
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especially when you're protecting yourself and your daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So stay aware, stay.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Vigilant, have your phone prepared and ready, have multiple phones ready,
you can have two iPhones, you can have a go pro,
lots of things to record word always document everything. All right,
We have another question from the Susie. Can you talk
about situational awareness and self defense products that actually help.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yes, I can, Susie.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So situational awareness is huge for me and that is
also why I don't always return my shopping cart. That
video went viral and most people didn't understand it, but
over time, as the conversation grew, people started to think, Hey,
I'm in a parking lot. I don't feel safe. I'm
going to return my cart because I don't want someone
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else to judge me or yell at me that I'm
leaving my cart up on a curb or in another spot.
Choosing other people's judgment or fearing their judgment over you,
choosing your gut, intuition, and instinct not okay, so for me.
Situational awareness is one being aware of you, the feelings
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inside you, and also being aware of your environment and
trusting what you think and perceive in your environment. If
you feel off and you can't find the words to
understand or really explain why you feel off or nervous
or anxious, anything, get yourself out of that situation and
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be safe. Go align yourself with a member of staff
if it's the grocery store, somebody who works there, whatever
you can do to feel safe and who cares. If
you don't fully understand why you're doing it, trust yourself
and let the words and the understanding come later, even
if you have to ask for forgiveness for being dramatic.
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You have kept yourself safe and likely those around you
safe as well. I had a moment like this at
Nordstoon Rac, which is my therapy. I love digging around
at Nordston Rac and I saw a couple guys following
me and they were not the type of guys that
were going to be in the women's shoe aisle. And
as I walked around the store, they kept kind of
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looking at me. They didn't have bags, they didn't seem
to have wallets, they weren't collecting items. They did not
seem like they were shopping there. As I kept walking around,
I made sure to go back to areas I had
already been, but I was staying on the perimeter of
the store where the staff could see me, and I
did not feel comfortable, and I told a staff member
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that this seemed very odd. As I was talking to
a staff member, the two men walked outside and I thought, okay,
so I'm going to have a staff member.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Escort me to my car.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
As they escorted me to my car, police were arresting
those two individuals. Now, I don't know what they were
planning to do with me. I don't know if they
were trying to traffic me, because it's way more common
than you think. I don't know if they just wanted
to rob me. Who knows. Maybe they wanted my autograph.
No when as I ever wanted my autograph. But whatever,
I didn't feel safe. I don't care. I'm keeping myself
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safe and that's how I did it. So trust yourself
and stand up for yourself no matter what. Now, with
regard to self defense products, I know it's very hard
depending on where you live. I know in Australia and
in Canada, it's very hard. In places where you can't
have self defense, I say, find a workaround, find a
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workaround and practice with it, even if it's a very
strong pen, even if it's.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Dog spray or bear spray.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Even if you say you're going to baseball practice but
you're not actually on the team, but you've got a
bag of bats in your car. Find a way around
it and keep yourself safe because the law should not
dictate your safety when a lot of the time the
law does.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Not protect us.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Now, for the people who can have protective measures, I
am all for guns. I am all for getting your
CCW you're concealing, carry and thoroughly understanding how to use
a gun. And if there's a misfire, what do you do?
Do you know how to clean it? Do you know
what a gun does? Do you know how to shoot
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at a target and actually hit what you want to shoot?
Do you know how to shoot to injure, not to kill,
just to get away to keep yourself safe? Do you
understand the rules when you can shoot? Do you understand
castle lot? Do you understand when somebody can actually come
in your house and you can't actually shoot them. They
have to look like they're aggressing on you. If an
incident plays out, do you understand what you have to
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do after you have to shoot an individual? You need
to try and save their life. I mean, these rules
are crazy. You need to understand it now if you
don't want to commit to an actual gun. And there's
a lot of fear, especially in California about weapons to
that degree. There are companies like ungun and those are
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kind of like Bebi's that hurt and really will push
a perpetrator back, but you're not going to likely kill somebody.
I always say pepper spray Saber is kind of the
company that everyone uses. I really like the company safely
because when you buy the pepper spray, what you get
is a practice spray. And I don't know about you,
but for a long time I carried pepper spray and
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I had never used it before. I didn't know that
you need to take the pepper spray and you need
to basically spray like you're spraying a Z and then
another Z flipped over and then a square. So you're
kind of building a shield of pepper spray because it's
going to stay there, and you want to use the
gel pepper spray gel so that it doesn't blow back
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in your face if it's windy. These are great tools.
I also like there are tools where you can wear
a ring and on the underside of the ring it's
a taser. You can wear a ring that you could
stab somebody with because it's sharp enough to get away.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So we have a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Of tools that we can carry, hairpins. We can also
be careful with our situation and we don't want to
invite ourselves to be a victim. What I hate is
victim blaming. No one deserves to be the victim. But
at the same time, it's very rare that someone knows
that they are going to be a victim. So advice
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from working in prison that I have, and advice from
many colleagues in this field of threat assessment and threat mitigation,
is don't wear air pods when you're out on a run.
Don't go running at night. It's just simply not safe
and not worth it. If you really want to wear
air pods, just wear one. Don't have your hair in
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a ponytail. Put it in a bun. It's harder to
grab if anything. Put a hood over your hair. You
don't want to look like an easy victim because most
perpetrators do not want to fight. They just want to
get what they want, and usually that is something from you.
They want to rob you or they want to sexually
assault you. So there's an element of command presence. There's
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an element of walking with power, walking with confidence, walk
as though you are not someone to be fucked with.
And if you can't find that within yourself, borrow it
from someone else. Picture somebody else who does it, and
just act like them until you have the confidence to
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do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
One thing I taught a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Of students when I was a professor was to go
home and look in the mirror and practice practice things like,
that is my vagina, you cannot touch it. Get your
penis away from me. Your hand is on my butt,
That is fondling. Raise your voice, make it louder, keep going,
even scream, and understand what that feels like, so that
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when you're in a moment of distress it is easier
to grab on to that skill and keep yourself safe.
If you are going to wear air pods, I highly
suggest you wear just one, but also keep it in
that trasparent mode and don't do the full sound blocking
mode because you won't be able to hear somebody coming
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up on that side. One criminal I worked with his
favorite move and it worked so well was that he
would look for women and he would come up and
he would give them a side hug and it was
very nice, you know, and just somebody coming up and saying, hey,
I haven't seen you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
In a while.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So of course you're going to look over at him
and think, who is this an old friend? Well, what's
he doing? The other hand is in your purse, taking
your wallet, and then he's off, and that's a very
common way that they rob you. We're going to take
a quick break and we'll be right back. Okay, Well, Susie,
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you got a mouth full there from me, so let's
move on too. Medusa. Caine Corso, Oh I like that,
Caine Corso. Just please tell me that you have them
trained really well, because those are some badass dogs. How
do we teach kids to use their gut feelings and
not worry about being rude or embarrassed when someone gives
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them a bad vibe?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Oh? I know.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
My daughter is eight and I'm in this right now,
and I practice a lot with her. So one thing
we do is if we're going on a hike, if
we're in a park, even if we're in the mall, anywhere,
I ask her to look around at the people that
she sees, and I ask her to profile them. I
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want her to tell me, do you think that this
is a good person? What do you see in their clothing?
What do you think their personality is like? Do you
think they're married? Do you think they have kids? Do
you think they have a job? Do you think they
work here? And I just let her freely tell me
those answers, and then I ask her, well, how did
you come to that determination?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
How did you learn that?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What led you to think that that guy was homeless
rather than a construction worker, and we get down to
the details, and there's a lot of teaching I can
do in those moments. But the biggest thing is there's
a lot of empowerment that she finds when she's correct.
So an example is, you know, if someone's homeless, get away,
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I don't care, get away from them.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You're a child.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You shouldn't be near anyone who looks like they're homeless.
Now what if they're a construction worker and you didn't
know what Her answer typically is, I look at their shoes.
Their shoes tell me a lot, because construction workers wear boots.
She also looks at their hair. She looks at if
it's clean, if there are things in their hair. She
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is well aware of when somebody is talking to themselves
or if they're hearing voices, and that can make them
more impulsive or dangerous. She's aware of paraphernalia, if people
have little things that they're messing with that could possibly
be she doesn't know what it is, but heroin or methamphetamine,
any kind of little thing like that picks up on
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and it empowers her to say, you know what, I
don't trust this moment and I don't have to apologize
for it. Another example is my daughter in school when
the little boys were kind of teasing the girls in
the bathroom, and my daughter thought, this isn't right, Like
girls should be able to just go to the bathroom
without the boys outside teasing them, because you know, they
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keep the main door to the bathroom open in elementary school.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And she told the principal, she said.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You know, I don't want to get anyone in trouble,
but these these boys are teasing us, and you know,
when we want to go pee, it just feels like
a private moment. And the principal said, you know, you
are completely right. I'm going to go talk to those boys.
So another moment where she felt empowered and she felt
confident and sure, there are times where she's wrong, but
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I tell her, you know, you keep yourself safe, you
keep your friends and your family safe, and you ask
for forgiveness later, and that in itself is empowering infidence
building in a child.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
All right, we're moving.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
On to at hh G four four five. I'm not
sure what that means. I'm not going to guess anything.
What safety tips do you have for miners who walk
alone in parks, streets and forests, but can't carry protection.
Oh my immediate reaction is to not allow that to happen.
But I know that that's just not something we can
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completely control. So get your kids in martial arts, get
your kids in self defense classes. You know, we don't
want to always anticipate the worst case scenario.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But we should be prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A few months ago, in Carmel by the Sea, which
is a quaint little town up in northern California, a
young girl, I want to say she was twelve or thirteen,
was just crossing a street. I think she was outside Lush,
like the beauty product store. I go there all the time.
It's an amazing cute. You feel so safe that town.
And an adult, grown man over six feet tried to
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take I don't know what his plan was. That girl
was trained in jiu jitsu and she wrecked him. She
broke both his ankles and took him down. And it
was such a proud moment for me as a mom
seeing that these parents had thoroughly trained this child to
protect herself. Now, I know that's a high standard, but
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you know, if you're thinking of an activity, get your
kids involved in an activity where they understand their body,
their body movements and how to protect themselves, even just
child self defense classes. And I know miners can't carry
guns and things like that, but again they can be
careful with how they have their air pods. They can
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always go in pairs or groups. Everyone should have Life
three sixty. They should have bark phones at and T.
There's so much technology where you can be tracked. You know,
put on an air tag, put it in your shoe,
put it in your backpack, have it on your wrist.
Where does a necklace get that ring that everyone has
nowadays it comes in gold. It's super cute. But let
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your family know where you are at all times. And
some of these apps will also tell your family if
your heart rate is rising and that can alert.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It'll go straight to their phones.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The bark phone, the Bark app is the technology is
so cool. It will text the parents right away and
say there's loud noise, there's violence, there's bad language, there's
commotion going on around your child. So the child needs
to leave one point arrive at another point. People need
to be aware of that transition. People need to know
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that there are safety measures in place on the child
in the child's mind, and that other people are with
the child or the miner as they are moving about
their business. Because we can't always we can't always be
there to be with our kids, and they need to
learn how to adult. So this is a good way
to start adulting. It's time for a commercial break, Okay,
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jumping over to missus Jennifer Dare, is there any rehabilitation
for offenders? What would it look like if nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Was off the table?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I see what you're getting like, are we talking about
castration here? If we are talking about castration, I have
had pedophilic clients actually blow their penises off and they
still reoffend. So it's not all about the penis or
the sexual stimulation. There is rehabilitation, but offenders predominantly respond
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to consequences, and I think that we need to pair
rehabilitation and therapy if they're not psychopathic, because therapy really
doesn't work with psychopaths. But we need to pair that
with consequences. So if we're talking about sex offenders, we've
got the ankle monitor, we've got probation check ins. They
have to be inside on Halloween evening, they have to
tell everyone they're a sex offender before they have sex.
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There are so many rules and regulations that come with
that crime. If they're not in prison right and then
prison does tend to take care of itself. But for
non sex offenders, for violent offenders, oftentimes the consequences of
being on parole or probation are helpful, as well as
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bringing their family back to them and trying to help
that estranged relationship bring back meaning to their life, bring
back purpose. A lot of offenders I've worked with have
joined groups that are anti gang that teach kids, teens
how to not get arrested. They go and they speak
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I have a friend named Jimmy, three time bank robber.
He goes and he speaks to kids and he says, hey,
this is what it's really like when you're in prison
and you don't want this now. He doesn't want to
terrify them, but he wants to educate them enough so
that they understand it's really not worth it. And it's
not just don't do it right, it's also what else
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can you do? How can we find you ways to
keep yourself busy, to keep yourself interested? What are other
avenues when you are stuck in a situation where crime
seems like the only option. So yes, I think there's
a combination of rehabilitation and consequences. But in all honesty,
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especially in California, I think we absolutely suck at it.
I think we let people out of prison and we
drop them right back into the neighborhood that got them
arrested in the first place, the corner where they get
their drugs, the gang members that are going to re
recruit them, and everybody just gets tangled right back. We
need a lot of changes. We need a lot of
changes at a legislative level. We need a lot more
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funding not going towards housing the homeless that aren't that
still use drugs. We need funding going towards figuring out
actually how to stop crimes, hold people accountable, and offer
treatment that is actually realistic to what they need and
what they're willing to do so that they don't reoffend. Okay,
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jumping over to Renee.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What can we do to.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Help protect college aged girls from being drugged or harmed.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
In social settings? Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That one just cut like a knife, because because that
happened to me and I wasn't protective. That's why I
have been partnering with companies to start pushing out some
of these incredible products. So I am partnering with NOPE
and what they have come up with are these Well,
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they have drink covers which are incredible, so you can
cover your drink and nobody can spike it or put
drugs in it. And they're hot pink, which is my
favorite color. But the big thing is that they have
drug test strips, and they have these strips that test
for seventeen different the most common drugs used to do
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a date rape, and you can get a drop of
your drink in there in whatever which way you do
it with the straw, a spoon, something. You go to
the bathroom and do it and within seconds they say,
like give it a minute, But from when I've tested it,
it's been within seconds it's positive for substances, and.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So keep that in your pocket. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I also really advocate for safety tools and safety devices
for young girls, like pepper spray, like spring blade, spring
blade knives, whatever you're allowed to have to just tell
the guide to back away. But at the end of
the day, don't put yourself in a situation where you
may be victimized. And I know that's hard to hear,
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but don't go somewhere alone. Don't let a boy pressure
you into a date in an isolated area when you
feel you don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Him well enough.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You don't have sex with anyone unless there is monogamy,
you know. Make a list of who you think you are,
make a list of who you think, what you think
the world thinks of you, and then ask other people
what you think teenage boys think of you, because it's
going to be a lot different than what you think
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of yourself. So the biggest advice I would have is
know your stimulus value. Know that every person sees you differently.
And when it comes to being in college and this
initial rum spring, this a freedom from the restraints of
high school and living at home. Know that you are
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a target to boys because boys want to have sex
with girls and they will find ways to do it.
And some boys aren't all great boys. So keep protected
and like I said before, let everyone know where you are,
Let your family know, keep those devices on your phone.
If anyone's ever pressuring you to hide, something to lie,
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if the ever threatening you, that is an immediate indication
that that is something wrong. There's something wrong. You need
to do something opposite it's an immediate indication that that
is predatory behavior because you should never ever have secrets
from your loved ones. So pick a loved one that
you tell everything to, and you make sure you tell everything,
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even if it's ridiculous, even if it's like I don't
know how to have sex, I don't know how to
fully get the penis in, because that is often a
college problem. He's pressuring me. I don't know if the
kissing was how I really thought it should go. It
seemed kind of weird. He wouldn't let my lips go.
These are things you need to talk to people about
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and you shouldn't keep them inside. So have a person
that knows where you are and knows everything about you,
and that you can really go to keep yourself safe.
I know I went on a bit of a tangent,
but it's definitely close to.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Home for me.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay, we're going to jump into our last question for
this episode from at Sean nineteen sixty. What can you
do to keep yourself safe online? Now, that is a
very broad question when we are talking about personal safety,
but I actually think a lot of people don't know
that there are a lot of companies out there that
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will clean the Internet of your information. So I think
companies like delete Me, Reputation Defender. There are a lot
of places and you can google this and you can
look at their reviews and everything, but they will Life
three sixty is one too, But they will go through
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the Internet and they will find individual words like your
home address that you don't want out there, and they
will delete it. There's also a way to rebuild reputations,
so they will front low a lot of good information
about you, or what they'll do is put other information
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out there and then bury the personal information about yourself.
So there's a lot of ways online to keep yourself
safe and manipulate what people are allowed to see when
they just go ahead and google something. But my mind
goes immediately to social media and keeping yourself safe there.
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So I really don't agree with lives. If you're doing
a live, make sure you're in a secure location and
make sure you're thinking that if you're doing a live,
somebody's gonna be able to find you. They know where
you are, and at the same time, they know where
you're not. They know you're not with your kids, they
know you're not at home, they know you're not with
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your dog, you're not in the office, whatever it may be,
always think of that opposite. Go into your Instagram, go
into your TikTok, go into your YouTube. There's a section
of security where you can list words that you do
not want anyone to comment on. They will not be
allowed to be placed on your accounts. And that can
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be your home address, family member names, your social security number.
You don't want to get docked on your own accounts,
and then if you are docked on the internet, you
also want to be aware and have these companies looking
for it now. One thing I also often suggest is
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be familiar with your local police department.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They are the good guys.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I hate to say it, but they have devoted their
lives to keeping you safe and when they get calls,
they have to figure out if the calls are real
or not. Right, there's a big thing going on in
this world called swatting, where people are calling the police
department and telling them some terrifying story. Somebody's being held
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hostage at gunpoint at this address. And what do the
police do. They go nuts. They go full force, right,
they are ready for battle, and they are going to
break down doors to save someone, as they should but
what if it's not true, What if it's just somebody
like an estranged ex screwing with you. Be familiar with
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your local police department, let them know who you are.
You can even have signs that you put out on
your gate or your front door saying who you are.
You can have your cell phone number put there, but
in some way keep yourself safe so that if there
are false allegations against you as well on the internet
and online, you can fight against that. Another tool I
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learned from the FBI is to go into Google Maps
and you have the option to blur out your home now.
So there are a lot of ways you can take
your number off the internet, your email addresses, your personal information,
your aids, your family members, and you can blur out
street names, and you can blur out the actual look
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of your house. Because people will look at your house
as they are getting ready to rob you. If they're
not going to do it in person, because you have cameras,
they're going to go online. They're going to look at
the exits, they're going to take those you know, we
have those virtual tours now of homes. They're going to
walk themselves through their home. How would I steal this TV.
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How would I enter steal the TV? And how would
I exit? So with online safety, that's very important when
it comes to online safety with children. My biggest thing
is that there are no secrets. Tell your child if
somebody is telling you online to keep a secret, that
they need to tell you right away. That anybody online
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is not a friend. If you have not met a
person in anybody online is not your friend. If you're
playing video games and you think you're talking to somebody
who's thirteen and you're thirteen, it may be a grown
adult who is beginning to groom you. So educate yourself
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on online grooming, on predatory behavior, Educate yourself on what
can actually happen through the internet and where you lose
your power and your safety simply because you're unaware and
you haven't been informed.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Pope's commercial time.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
Intentionally Disturbing. I want to do more of these questions
and answers. I know I have a lot of questions
that came in, so future episodes we will focus on
child safety. We'll focus on safety in the home and
around strangers. Definitely focus on traveling and co parenting because ooh, Coustody,
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there's a whole world we're going to get into there,
and I want to look into work place safety and
professional safety, like sexual harassment, how to prevent it and
if it happens, what to do. So thank you so
much again for taking the time to listen and learn,
and I will catch you next time. Intentionally Disturbing is
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Thanks again for listening. We'll see you next week for more.
Intention Only Disturbing
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome back to Intentionally Disturbing with Doctor Leslie Forensic Psychologists.
Today's episode is going to be a bit different because
I want to answer your questions. So on my social
media platforms, I asked you to submit questions about safety.
I wanted you to ask me about self defense, how
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to protect children, co parenting, online threats, workplace danger. And
here I am answering your questions. Now some I didn't
have the answers to and I had to read about some.
I asked some people in the FBI, some people in
police departments, CIA, other therapists.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And even lawyers.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So I can't own that all of this information is
straight from me, but I can say that it is
professional and reliable. And if you like this episode, let's
keep doing it because if we can keep even one
child or one person safe, it is worth it. We're
going to start with personal safety and self defense questions
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and recommendations. This section focuses on tools, instincts, and strategies
to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life
and high risk situations. So to answer our first question
from at not yours oo love this name?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Not sure what it means?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Good boundary setting, though, what is the best form of
protection to keep my daughter and me safe when we
already have protective orders in place. I get this question
a lot, and people may not fully understand it. So
this is likely a mom and a child who has
a restraining order from an ex husband an estranged husband
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or wife, and they are not allowed to be around them,
but the person is still trying to be around them.
One of my biggest recommendations is that you are always
ready to call someone and you know they are going
to answer. You always have your phone charged and on
your favorites list. It's not just nine to one one,
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but it's somebody that you have a promise with that
if your name comes across their phone, they will answer,
and immediately they will start recording everything and anything that
they hear, because you need witnesses if somebody is going
to break a troro. Now. Additionally, there are a lot
of amazing recorders that you can have in your pocket.
(02:40):
Some are the size of a lip gloss, they're tiny
of a thumb drive, and you can immediately just tap
your pocket and record any noise, anything that shows that
this person is aggressing against you. I also highly recommend
voluntarily offering updates to the police that are involved with
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your case, the detectives, investigators, lawyers, judges. Even if it's
the FBI and you have an FBI agent assigned to you,
update them, let them know what is going on. If
you have the funds for a private investigator. I think
it is very okay to keep tabs on what your
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estranged X is doing. Who are they, where are they?
Are they online? Do they have a social presence? Keep
tabs on them so that you can keep clear from them.
But the biggest thing is to be aware. You don't
want to be crazy and paranoid, right, but you have
to be vigilant. And this is a very high stakes game,
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especially when you're protecting yourself and your daughter.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So stay aware, stay.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Vigilant, have your phone prepared and ready, have multiple phones ready,
you can have two iPhones, you can have a go pro,
lots of things to record word always document everything. All right,
We have another question from the Susie. Can you talk
about situational awareness and self defense products that actually help.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yes, I can, Susie.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So situational awareness is huge for me and that is
also why I don't always return my shopping cart. That
video went viral and most people didn't understand it, but
over time, as the conversation grew, people started to think, Hey,
I'm in a parking lot. I don't feel safe. I'm
going to return my cart because I don't want someone
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else to judge me or yell at me that I'm
leaving my cart up on a curb or in another spot.
Choosing other people's judgment or fearing their judgment over you,
choosing your gut, intuition, and instinct not okay, so for me.
Situational awareness is one being aware of you, the feelings
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inside you, and also being aware of your environment and
trusting what you think and perceive in your environment. If
you feel off and you can't find the words to
understand or really explain why you feel off or nervous
or anxious, anything, get yourself out of that situation and
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be safe. Go align yourself with a member of staff
if it's the grocery store, somebody who works there, whatever
you can do to feel safe and who cares. If
you don't fully understand why you're doing it, trust yourself
and let the words and the understanding come later, even
if you have to ask for forgiveness for being dramatic.
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You have kept yourself safe and likely those around you
safe as well. I had a moment like this at
Nordstoon Rac, which is my therapy. I love digging around
at Nordston Rac and I saw a couple guys following
me and they were not the type of guys that
were going to be in the women's shoe aisle. And
as I walked around the store, they kept kind of
(06:05):
looking at me. They didn't have bags, they didn't seem
to have wallets, they weren't collecting items. They did not
seem like they were shopping there. As I kept walking around,
I made sure to go back to areas I had
already been, but I was staying on the perimeter of
the store where the staff could see me, and I
did not feel comfortable, and I told a staff member
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that this seemed very odd. As I was talking to
a staff member, the two men walked outside and I thought, okay,
so I'm going to have a staff member.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Escort me to my car.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
As they escorted me to my car, police were arresting
those two individuals. Now, I don't know what they were
planning to do with me. I don't know if they
were trying to traffic me, because it's way more common
than you think. I don't know if they just wanted
to rob me. Who knows. Maybe they wanted my autograph.
No when as I ever wanted my autograph. But whatever,
I didn't feel safe. I don't care. I'm keeping myself
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safe and that's how I did it. So trust yourself
and stand up for yourself no matter what. Now, with
regard to self defense products, I know it's very hard
depending on where you live. I know in Australia and
in Canada, it's very hard. In places where you can't
have self defense, I say, find a workaround, find a
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workaround and practice with it, even if it's a very
strong pen, even if it's.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Dog spray or bear spray.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Even if you say you're going to baseball practice but
you're not actually on the team, but you've got a
bag of bats in your car. Find a way around
it and keep yourself safe because the law should not
dictate your safety when a lot of the time the
law does.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Not protect us.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Now, for the people who can have protective measures, I
am all for guns. I am all for getting your
CCW you're concealing, carry and thoroughly understanding how to use
a gun. And if there's a misfire, what do you do?
Do you know how to clean it? Do you know
what a gun does? Do you know how to shoot
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at a target and actually hit what you want to shoot?
Do you know how to shoot to injure, not to kill,
just to get away to keep yourself safe? Do you
understand the rules when you can shoot? Do you understand
castle lot? Do you understand when somebody can actually come
in your house and you can't actually shoot them. They
have to look like they're aggressing on you. If an
incident plays out, do you understand what you have to
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do after you have to shoot an individual? You need
to try and save their life. I mean, these rules
are crazy. You need to understand it now if you
don't want to commit to an actual gun. And there's
a lot of fear, especially in California about weapons to
that degree. There are companies like ungun and those are
(08:49):
kind of like Bebi's that hurt and really will push
a perpetrator back, but you're not going to likely kill somebody.
I always say pepper spray Saber is kind of the
company that everyone uses. I really like the company safely
because when you buy the pepper spray, what you get
is a practice spray. And I don't know about you,
but for a long time I carried pepper spray and
(09:11):
I had never used it before. I didn't know that
you need to take the pepper spray and you need
to basically spray like you're spraying a Z and then
another Z flipped over and then a square. So you're
kind of building a shield of pepper spray because it's
going to stay there, and you want to use the
gel pepper spray gel so that it doesn't blow back
(09:33):
in your face if it's windy. These are great tools.
I also like there are tools where you can wear
a ring and on the underside of the ring it's
a taser. You can wear a ring that you could
stab somebody with because it's sharp enough to get away.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So we have a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Of tools that we can carry, hairpins. We can also
be careful with our situation and we don't want to
invite ourselves to be a victim. What I hate is
victim blaming. No one deserves to be the victim. But
at the same time, it's very rare that someone knows
that they are going to be a victim. So advice
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from working in prison that I have, and advice from
many colleagues in this field of threat assessment and threat mitigation,
is don't wear air pods when you're out on a run.
Don't go running at night. It's just simply not safe
and not worth it. If you really want to wear
air pods, just wear one. Don't have your hair in
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a ponytail. Put it in a bun. It's harder to
grab if anything. Put a hood over your hair. You
don't want to look like an easy victim because most
perpetrators do not want to fight. They just want to
get what they want, and usually that is something from you.
They want to rob you or they want to sexually
assault you. So there's an element of command presence. There's
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an element of walking with power, walking with confidence, walk
as though you are not someone to be fucked with.
And if you can't find that within yourself, borrow it
from someone else. Picture somebody else who does it, and
just act like them until you have the confidence to
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do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
One thing I taught a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Of students when I was a professor was to go
home and look in the mirror and practice practice things like,
that is my vagina, you cannot touch it. Get your
penis away from me. Your hand is on my butt,
That is fondling. Raise your voice, make it louder, keep going,
even scream, and understand what that feels like, so that
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when you're in a moment of distress it is easier
to grab on to that skill and keep yourself safe.
If you are going to wear air pods, I highly
suggest you wear just one, but also keep it in
that trasparent mode and don't do the full sound blocking
mode because you won't be able to hear somebody coming
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up on that side. One criminal I worked with his
favorite move and it worked so well was that he
would look for women and he would come up and
he would give them a side hug and it was
very nice, you know, and just somebody coming up and saying, hey,
I haven't seen you.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
In a while.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So of course you're going to look over at him
and think, who is this an old friend? Well, what's
he doing? The other hand is in your purse, taking
your wallet, and then he's off, and that's a very
common way that they rob you. We're going to take
a quick break and we'll be right back. Okay, Well, Susie,
(12:45):
you got a mouth full there from me, so let's
move on too. Medusa. Caine Corso, Oh I like that,
Caine Corso. Just please tell me that you have them
trained really well, because those are some badass dogs. How
do we teach kids to use their gut feelings and
not worry about being rude or embarrassed when someone gives
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them a bad vibe?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Oh? I know.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
My daughter is eight and I'm in this right now,
and I practice a lot with her. So one thing
we do is if we're going on a hike, if
we're in a park, even if we're in the mall, anywhere,
I ask her to look around at the people that
she sees, and I ask her to profile them. I
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want her to tell me, do you think that this
is a good person? What do you see in their clothing?
What do you think their personality is like? Do you
think they're married? Do you think they have kids? Do
you think they have a job? Do you think they
work here? And I just let her freely tell me
those answers, and then I ask her, well, how did
you come to that determination?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
How did you learn that?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
What led you to think that that guy was homeless
rather than a construction worker, and we get down to
the details, and there's a lot of teaching I can
do in those moments. But the biggest thing is there's
a lot of empowerment that she finds when she's correct.
So an example is, you know, if someone's homeless, get away,
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I don't care, get away from them.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You're a child.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You shouldn't be near anyone who looks like they're homeless.
Now what if they're a construction worker and you didn't
know what Her answer typically is, I look at their shoes.
Their shoes tell me a lot, because construction workers wear boots.
She also looks at their hair. She looks at if
it's clean, if there are things in their hair. She
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is well aware of when somebody is talking to themselves
or if they're hearing voices, and that can make them
more impulsive or dangerous. She's aware of paraphernalia, if people
have little things that they're messing with that could possibly
be she doesn't know what it is, but heroin or methamphetamine,
any kind of little thing like that picks up on
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and it empowers her to say, you know what, I
don't trust this moment and I don't have to apologize
for it. Another example is my daughter in school when
the little boys were kind of teasing the girls in
the bathroom, and my daughter thought, this isn't right, Like
girls should be able to just go to the bathroom
without the boys outside teasing them, because you know, they
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keep the main door to the bathroom open in elementary school.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And she told the principal, she said.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
You know, I don't want to get anyone in trouble,
but these these boys are teasing us, and you know,
when we want to go pee, it just feels like
a private moment. And the principal said, you know, you
are completely right. I'm going to go talk to those boys.
So another moment where she felt empowered and she felt
confident and sure, there are times where she's wrong, but
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I tell her, you know, you keep yourself safe, you
keep your friends and your family safe, and you ask
for forgiveness later, and that in itself is empowering infidence
building in a child.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
All right, we're moving.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
On to at hh G four four five. I'm not
sure what that means. I'm not going to guess anything.
What safety tips do you have for miners who walk
alone in parks, streets and forests, but can't carry protection.
Oh my immediate reaction is to not allow that to happen.
But I know that that's just not something we can
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completely control. So get your kids in martial arts, get
your kids in self defense classes. You know, we don't
want to always anticipate the worst case scenario.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But we should be prepared for it.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A few months ago, in Carmel by the Sea, which
is a quaint little town up in northern California, a
young girl, I want to say she was twelve or thirteen,
was just crossing a street. I think she was outside Lush,
like the beauty product store. I go there all the time.
It's an amazing cute. You feel so safe that town.
And an adult, grown man over six feet tried to
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take I don't know what his plan was. That girl
was trained in jiu jitsu and she wrecked him. She
broke both his ankles and took him down. And it
was such a proud moment for me as a mom
seeing that these parents had thoroughly trained this child to
protect herself. Now, I know that's a high standard, but
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you know, if you're thinking of an activity, get your
kids involved in an activity where they understand their body,
their body movements and how to protect themselves, even just
child self defense classes. And I know miners can't carry
guns and things like that, but again they can be
careful with how they have their air pods. They can
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always go in pairs or groups. Everyone should have Life
three sixty. They should have bark phones at and T.
There's so much technology where you can be tracked. You know,
put on an air tag, put it in your shoe,
put it in your backpack, have it on your wrist.
Where does a necklace get that ring that everyone has
nowadays it comes in gold. It's super cute. But let
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your family know where you are at all times. And
some of these apps will also tell your family if
your heart rate is rising and that can alert.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It'll go straight to their phones.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
The bark phone, the Bark app is the technology is
so cool. It will text the parents right away and
say there's loud noise, there's violence, there's bad language, there's
commotion going on around your child. So the child needs
to leave one point arrive at another point. People need
to be aware of that transition. People need to know
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that there are safety measures in place on the child
in the child's mind, and that other people are with
the child or the miner as they are moving about
their business. Because we can't always we can't always be
there to be with our kids, and they need to
learn how to adult. So this is a good way
to start adulting. It's time for a commercial break, Okay,
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jumping over to missus Jennifer Dare, is there any rehabilitation
for offenders? What would it look like if nothing.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Was off the table?
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I see what you're getting like, are we talking about
castration here? If we are talking about castration, I have
had pedophilic clients actually blow their penises off and they
still reoffend. So it's not all about the penis or
the sexual stimulation. There is rehabilitation, but offenders predominantly respond
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to consequences, and I think that we need to pair
rehabilitation and therapy if they're not psychopathic, because therapy really
doesn't work with psychopaths. But we need to pair that
with consequences. So if we're talking about sex offenders, we've
got the ankle monitor, we've got probation check ins. They
have to be inside on Halloween evening, they have to
tell everyone they're a sex offender before they have sex.
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There are so many rules and regulations that come with
that crime. If they're not in prison right and then
prison does tend to take care of itself. But for
non sex offenders, for violent offenders, oftentimes the consequences of
being on parole or probation are helpful, as well as
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bringing their family back to them and trying to help
that estranged relationship bring back meaning to their life, bring
back purpose. A lot of offenders I've worked with have
joined groups that are anti gang that teach kids, teens
how to not get arrested. They go and they speak
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I have a friend named Jimmy, three time bank robber.
He goes and he speaks to kids and he says, hey,
this is what it's really like when you're in prison
and you don't want this now. He doesn't want to
terrify them, but he wants to educate them enough so
that they understand it's really not worth it. And it's
not just don't do it right, it's also what else
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can you do? How can we find you ways to
keep yourself busy, to keep yourself interested? What are other
avenues when you are stuck in a situation where crime
seems like the only option. So yes, I think there's
a combination of rehabilitation and consequences. But in all honesty,
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especially in California, I think we absolutely suck at it.
I think we let people out of prison and we
drop them right back into the neighborhood that got them
arrested in the first place, the corner where they get
their drugs, the gang members that are going to re
recruit them, and everybody just gets tangled right back. We
need a lot of changes. We need a lot of
changes at a legislative level. We need a lot more
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funding not going towards housing the homeless that aren't that
still use drugs. We need funding going towards figuring out
actually how to stop crimes, hold people accountable, and offer
treatment that is actually realistic to what they need and
what they're willing to do so that they don't reoffend. Okay,
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jumping over to Renee.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What can we do to.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Help protect college aged girls from being drugged or harmed.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
In social settings? Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That one just cut like a knife, because because that
happened to me and I wasn't protective. That's why I
have been partnering with companies to start pushing out some
of these incredible products. So I am partnering with NOPE
and what they have come up with are these Well,
(22:44):
they have drink covers which are incredible, so you can
cover your drink and nobody can spike it or put
drugs in it. And they're hot pink, which is my
favorite color. But the big thing is that they have
drug test strips, and they have these strips that test
for seventeen different the most common drugs used to do
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a date rape, and you can get a drop of
your drink in there in whatever which way you do
it with the straw, a spoon, something. You go to
the bathroom and do it and within seconds they say,
like give it a minute, But from when I've tested it,
it's been within seconds it's positive for substances, and.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
So keep that in your pocket. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I also really advocate for safety tools and safety devices
for young girls, like pepper spray, like spring blade, spring
blade knives, whatever you're allowed to have to just tell
the guide to back away. But at the end of
the day, don't put yourself in a situation where you
may be victimized. And I know that's hard to hear,
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but don't go somewhere alone. Don't let a boy pressure
you into a date in an isolated area when you
feel you don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Him well enough.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You don't have sex with anyone unless there is monogamy,
you know. Make a list of who you think you are,
make a list of who you think, what you think
the world thinks of you, and then ask other people
what you think teenage boys think of you, because it's
going to be a lot different than what you think
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of yourself. So the biggest advice I would have is
know your stimulus value. Know that every person sees you differently.
And when it comes to being in college and this
initial rum spring, this a freedom from the restraints of
high school and living at home. Know that you are
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a target to boys because boys want to have sex
with girls and they will find ways to do it.
And some boys aren't all great boys. So keep protected
and like I said before, let everyone know where you are,
Let your family know, keep those devices on your phone.
If anyone's ever pressuring you to hide, something to lie,
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if the ever threatening you, that is an immediate indication
that that is something wrong. There's something wrong. You need
to do something opposite it's an immediate indication that that
is predatory behavior because you should never ever have secrets
from your loved ones. So pick a loved one that
you tell everything to, and you make sure you tell everything,
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even if it's ridiculous, even if it's like I don't
know how to have sex, I don't know how to
fully get the penis in, because that is often a
college problem. He's pressuring me. I don't know if the
kissing was how I really thought it should go. It
seemed kind of weird. He wouldn't let my lips go.
These are things you need to talk to people about
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and you shouldn't keep them inside. So have a person
that knows where you are and knows everything about you,
and that you can really go to keep yourself safe.
I know I went on a bit of a tangent,
but it's definitely close to.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Home for me.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay, we're going to jump into our last question for
this episode from at Sean nineteen sixty. What can you
do to keep yourself safe online? Now, that is a
very broad question when we are talking about personal safety,
but I actually think a lot of people don't know
that there are a lot of companies out there that
(26:26):
will clean the Internet of your information. So I think
companies like delete Me, Reputation Defender. There are a lot
of places and you can google this and you can
look at their reviews and everything, but they will Life
three sixty is one too, But they will go through
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the Internet and they will find individual words like your
home address that you don't want out there, and they
will delete it. There's also a way to rebuild reputations,
so they will front low a lot of good information
about you, or what they'll do is put other information
(27:06):
out there and then bury the personal information about yourself.
So there's a lot of ways online to keep yourself
safe and manipulate what people are allowed to see when
they just go ahead and google something. But my mind
goes immediately to social media and keeping yourself safe there.
(27:28):
So I really don't agree with lives. If you're doing
a live, make sure you're in a secure location and
make sure you're thinking that if you're doing a live,
somebody's gonna be able to find you. They know where
you are, and at the same time, they know where
you're not. They know you're not with your kids, they
know you're not at home, they know you're not with
(27:49):
your dog, you're not in the office, whatever it may be,
always think of that opposite. Go into your Instagram, go
into your TikTok, go into your YouTube. There's a section
of security where you can list words that you do
not want anyone to comment on. They will not be
allowed to be placed on your accounts. And that can
(28:11):
be your home address, family member names, your social security number.
You don't want to get docked on your own accounts,
and then if you are docked on the internet, you
also want to be aware and have these companies looking
for it now. One thing I also often suggest is
(28:34):
be familiar with your local police department.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
They are the good guys.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I hate to say it, but they have devoted their
lives to keeping you safe and when they get calls,
they have to figure out if the calls are real
or not. Right, there's a big thing going on in
this world called swatting, where people are calling the police
department and telling them some terrifying story. Somebody's being held
(29:00):
hostage at gunpoint at this address. And what do the
police do. They go nuts. They go full force, right,
they are ready for battle, and they are going to
break down doors to save someone, as they should but
what if it's not true, What if it's just somebody
like an estranged ex screwing with you. Be familiar with
(29:22):
your local police department, let them know who you are.
You can even have signs that you put out on
your gate or your front door saying who you are.
You can have your cell phone number put there, but
in some way keep yourself safe so that if there
are false allegations against you as well on the internet
and online, you can fight against that. Another tool I
(29:44):
learned from the FBI is to go into Google Maps
and you have the option to blur out your home now.
So there are a lot of ways you can take
your number off the internet, your email addresses, your personal information,
your aids, your family members, and you can blur out
street names, and you can blur out the actual look
(30:04):
of your house. Because people will look at your house
as they are getting ready to rob you. If they're
not going to do it in person, because you have cameras,
they're going to go online. They're going to look at
the exits, they're going to take those you know, we
have those virtual tours now of homes. They're going to
walk themselves through their home. How would I steal this TV.
(30:24):
How would I enter steal the TV? And how would
I exit? So with online safety, that's very important when
it comes to online safety with children. My biggest thing
is that there are no secrets. Tell your child if
somebody is telling you online to keep a secret, that
they need to tell you right away. That anybody online
(30:45):
is not a friend. If you have not met a
person in anybody online is not your friend. If you're
playing video games and you think you're talking to somebody
who's thirteen and you're thirteen, it may be a grown
adult who is beginning to groom you. So educate yourself
(31:06):
on online grooming, on predatory behavior, Educate yourself on what
can actually happen through the internet and where you lose
your power and your safety simply because you're unaware and
you haven't been informed.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Pope's commercial time.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
Intentionally Disturbing. I want to do more of these questions
and answers. I know I have a lot of questions
that came in, so future episodes we will focus on
child safety. We'll focus on safety in the home and
around strangers. Definitely focus on traveling and co parenting because ooh, Coustody,
(31:55):
there's a whole world we're going to get into there,
and I want to look into work place safety and
professional safety, like sexual harassment, how to prevent it and
if it happens, what to do. So thank you so
much again for taking the time to listen and learn,
and I will catch you next time. Intentionally Disturbing is
(32:18):
a podcast from me, Doctor Leslie. It's distributed by iHeart Media.
Liam Billiam is the senior producer and he.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Also edits the show and puts up with my shit.
Katie Cobbs does the social media and she attempts to
keep me in my lane, not always successful. The executive
producers are Paul Anderson and Scott McCarthy for Workhouse Media,
who have told me not to text them twenty four
(32:50):
to seven, but you know what, I'm still the boss.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Thanks again for listening. We'll see you next week for more.
Intention Only Disturbing
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