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September 11, 2023 61 mins

How do you turn the worst thing that’s ever happened to you into a comedy show? 


Comedian Michael Cruz Kayne went viral for a tweet he posted on the 10th anniversary of his newborn son’s death. What followed was an outpouring of support, but also: of storytelling, with thousands of people sharing their own experiences of loss. 


His one man show, Sorry for Your Loss, and his podcast, A Good Cry, have made the topic of child loss a little bit easier to approach. He’d like you to know you should ask your sad friend about the sad thing that happened to them: it’s ok to not know what to say. 

In this episode we cover: 


  • Can you make comedy about tragedy? 
  • How telling the truth can make you less lonely
  • Is it okay to say “sorry for your loss”? 
  • If family members would be upset by what you say on stage, should you say it anyway?
  • Does everything happen for a reason? (spoiler: no. but maybe yes.) 


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“Having half of infinity is also infinity. I got more than you could ever possibly get, and I thought I was gonna get twice that.” - Michael Cruz Kayne, on the enduring grief of his son’s death. 

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About our guest:

Comedian and writer Michael Cruz Kayne is the host of A Good Cry, and creator of the one man show, Sorry For Your Loss, from Audible theater. He’s an Emmy nominated, Peabody award winning writer on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Find him at and on Instagram and Twitter @cruzkayne 


About Megan: 

Psychotherapist Megan Devine is one of today’s leading experts on grief, from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don’t call grief. The best-selling book on grief in over a decade, Megan’s It’s Ok that You’re Not OK, is a global phenomenon that has been translated into more than 25 languages. Her animations and explainers have garnered over 75 million views and are used in training programs around the world. Find her @refugeingrief


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