Dee-1 - Pt 2 | "Cherry Picking" Dee-1 Exposes J.Cole & Kendrick Lamar Label Deal & Explodes in Debate: Master P vs. QC Pee & Coach K - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hendrick J. Coble somebody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
But they have.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
Massive machines behind them. Now, if we're talking this talk,
let's get into it. But in addition to that talent,
we know that a hip hop talent eight nine.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Three words wrap your reality? What if you kN Vod's
what's what's your thoughts on man? Man?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Did you think in two thousand and anything that Master
P possesses the abiliting to stand next to an artist
and really turn them up in the way like a
young body, a QCP of of any one of these
other execs, and even a baby, a little Wayne or
doctor Drake, anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
So that that'sten.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, I'm wondering matter people's coach K and q QCP
are yet one.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
No, he definitely was. I haven't CDP invest in that way.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
That's talking about you seen p or Kedle that feeding
history than talking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
We're talking about you said that the littleness feeling that
q C and P coach Ket that was true.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Master right right there, Maddi Pee was working.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
At the company's body whipper at a point over there
was Low and Lee Rap Popper. I'm talking about willing
Lewis should invest in an artist.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't think master P can have that Canadal to.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Coach K and q C P A s ain't you crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh their greatness grab esterday and decided to that. He
from Lord and yeah, he wasn't one of those guys
and he was well master P wasn't Sherry Peagan. If
you were signing to master P, you were getting a house.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
In addition, and the old house was he gonna live
your ownership?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
That of music?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I knew ten minute off the yard and got your
two hundred down down the house.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That ain't talking me And this is the man that.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Like right if they talk them to surgeons, we talked.
And that's while I'm telling you an investment. This would
make people all comfortable about master P.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
He was jail v and doesn't bearish Stephen what he
was at a j A Russ as Simons in one
he was.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Real baby and QCP in one and people just can't
fathom that.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Bro to me, you mean Coach came and bury me
out and Baby did the same thing there like the
better floods in the peak. So did Baby not sit there?
And I can put P and Coach and Slim and.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Baby to death exactly My man, my man, loan old loan.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, okay, okay, all is.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Up there and stuck that nick when it's up there, Man,
it's stuck there.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
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The plantation looks like us.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Be is so desperate for validation that he sit here
and say, our form of communication, which is wrapping and
consuming wrap, is something that's going to eat in to
our degradation. You feel me, that's the mean telling me
telling me your because because you went through a land
of little bespiration.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, telling me what makes yours different than what the
coach is in right?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Because I knew me I foundation, because I knew my
foundation when that story that I did I tell about
the dude that was like, I'll managed you, but he
wanted me that will be a part of some homosexual stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now, man, I'm cruel.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I got to afford it to you to be like no,
because now you ask me to grapes my foundation. I
will come right out here, out of town, out of state,
you know, in the old hinder accord to come and
meet with you and hang around at all day waiting
to get a little bitty with time to try to
get you the word to work with me.

Speaker 9 (04:55):
I will do all that I'm telling pass just sing
I'm all righty not because if I just got right, well,
I'm not going there.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
If you trust God, you're not going that work with people.
I'm not that sip some messing and little bit in
this time.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Oh man, I mean unfortunately that got the name Bard
that ain't been doing right.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
So if I said, well, God, that had been better, Yo,
i'mna be humble. I ain't gonna be arrogant about it.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
But if I'm goodn't when I when I say, sitting
here for a little bit of the time just to
give kadat is a video shoot, right, So I just
hold out of state.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
So it's really not yo, we showing the video.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
B I'm down to me with you, but I'm overseeing
there like yeah, that was so so that's all I read.
I ain't know I'm being the person that's been that
desperate that well they do it be better? But he
did the way. I know what I'm saying, But you
gotta know, you gotta be careful that it doesn't because
being when Joe Boyd and Jim Jones, Rick Bross meeting
there and you say we can do better than A

(05:47):
but I wanna meet with you, that's when he gets okay.
That's when they say it might be something mess to
that because when you when you rather, what I would
say would be the correct thing to do is and say,
here is the issue, here's the solution.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
If you guys, let a culture about.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That solutione geah. So I care ul with the solution.
And one way that I'm organizing the galvanizing everybody is
something I created called the Platinum Pledge, the Platinum play
Hero and the music it is the Platinum is high
as highest level. So I started platting into an acronym.
People needing a transformation involving.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Me, unified mansets filming.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
The Platinum Pledge is me sitting here saying everybody has
down with this, you know mean, put your giant head
cargo in here, sign this right here. The Platinum Player
simply says that we coll together and say that we're
vowed not to create support entrepreneur music that is glorifying
keyword glorifying murder, drug deeming and drug usage Bush respect

(06:49):
for women and sexual irresponsibility. If somebody riving with that
man signed the Platinum Players right here now we are
forming a community.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
We all coming.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Together because it's so many of us that we've become
a silent majority, because it's being seen as.

Speaker 10 (07:05):
Like you're untellable if you're not participating in this all
making these meansic go whatever sitting now is that now
boot y'all not gonna mentally trick us today that we
want for advocating for what's right said, the Platinum Pledge
has been brave on.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Thousands of people together D one means.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Of dot com slash Platinum Pledge. It's my Instagram a
Viru boot And though all these thousands of people that
have been signed this already, then I come together and.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Say what am I going to do land informing this
massive community. I go to my head and tell my
hotel was divided. Man, we don't know everybody grew he Wilding.
You know everybody knows he's been grunted for.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Whis Sarley sild that now D speaking out the glass staff.
And then you got some people you know in the
city I don't know about feeling nineteen.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
You worry about this the right wing all if I
be with the message cool, you know what you know
about solution Alla days.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
That's all I sit down the break read that's just
my style, a little let's sit down.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
So when I did, I would back home. Ye there,
Christmas Break.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Had one hundred rappers together, out one hundred of us
rappers only we don't want nobody else.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
If you're a rapper, may get somebody here.

Speaker 11 (08:09):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
We got to sit down at the chop of that.
Let's agreed, let's disagree, let's crying. That's that's fighting. That's
all you that's come to.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Some solutions to understand each other better because doing that
and that type of communication is healing for everyone.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Cooking the matter what y'all think.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I might be this certain type of rapper, you might
be a different type of rapper, but we are all
on the same team ultimately, bro, And that's what I
know of right now. Say he talks solutions, I'm not
just a contrarian.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
There's just like light and just spur up ness.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
No, bro, I'm justlike But if I'm brig Waltz and
I'm winning and I'm a nigga just bought.

Speaker 12 (08:46):
A thirty million dollar crib, but hat a fifty million
matter as far that our lists going on had that
team's around here. And I don't mean that this money
makes me better than you, but it makes me busy.
It makes me someone that has a tight schedule.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Again, I'm saying the solution that doesn't involve D one.
That's why I keep saying that people gonna think about
self interest because everything has to involve D one for
it to be fixed. So if if people want to
live abize everything that out there standing on the represented
for the last fifteen years through the music I'm.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Making, through the amazement that.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I'm creating, through the interactions that I'm having, if people
want to try to minimize that to because he said
and that's all sitting down, that means that he wants
something to be in it for.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Him, if people want to.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's clearly when joe is syring, because Joey is saying, well,
I seen thing that dude you're clout chasing and he's.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
In the guard. Thing gets a cloud chills going on right.
Just calling these there's names, What the fuck? Why don't
you call that gc lem Soux call him blidy? Why
don't you rag in the game. Any with it right?
Why don't you go because there's other tell sens that's
tearing down kids. I'm not a gamer. I know rappers,
So I'm gonna talk about the dues. Why not they're
associated with so they can doubt forever. But then when

(10:07):
I say, what's the point of writing all of these lyrics?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
If already to an audience that ain't trying to hear it,
they would rather be blown bag and they'll ramp about
building wealth. They read to me, get some boiling, They
rap about let it help better sense to me. Eventually,
try to make sense to me. I would need you dialerst.
I need you to feld sensibly and still word not.
You're vegan, but that's funny if you still put motal garbage,
you're just a healthy dummy my city.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Don't even let me.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm calling you to how it is I'm gonna fit
to the power structure that's bread washing our kids of fracturing.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
On the egos of illegitimate. He rolls I already look
up to one day because he died. Then he vows
I keep it told, really because I don't last too low.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
If every didy likes me I'm doing something too well.
Maybe in time they'll appreciate my words, like NSI tell them,
I'm gonna see how Paul.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Keeping your real gives me. That's a belt, that's get that.
And do you know I respect you and you have
a beautiful measures of beautiful spirit. I can it right?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
That A lot of respect for you speak amro and
that that's something that is that was, that's something you
that that's our that's a risk.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I need got a son again, it's it's called people
that what they will we need?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
That's my verse off of the son though, Yeah, that's
all rather like that's and that's the tip of the Iedenberg.
So it'd be like it's a big well. A right,
it's a big well. I deal with Why not gospel? Well?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Why not gospel?

Speaker 3 (11:25):
That?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Sorry? Why being in the studio with buc of Ken
and gall Why not be in the studio with a
gospel artists.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Born boy and never in the studio with some wonder
because couldn't you bridge the glad from gospel?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Could it be more effective in gospel being trying to
come into the trup build and say cleaning this up,
get that, do that? Every good? But you know, I
do it all well, you might not know.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
And that's why I'm here for communication, because I'm going
into the elevation. Whether I'm performing at churches, none stop,
run on the clock at churches, rater at.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Churches, at church conferences. Ain't that city I'm performing at church, I'll.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Be if you were performing at an Olds conference advantage
And I want you to call me.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm at it and like that. I'm that what we
talking about right now. That's what all this is for.
It's because God made me a breed.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
All that I forget all there. It's about being a bridge.

Speaker 13 (12:18):
So just like I'm performing in the church, I'm also
teaching at a college, and I'm also performing at a club,
and I'm also collaborating with people who are undoubtedly seeing
as gospel artists, but also.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
People that's undoubtedly seen their street artists. And I'm the
same me everywhere. That's the point if I want to
be the same me everywhere.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Believe that I saw you don't saw many different spiders
that You've been the same.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
In man, Bro. So I appreciate that. Bro.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
That means more to me than anything because hopefully that
it makes you view me through a lens to where
it's like, man, I'm gonna win and listen to a
Homi talking about musically all said just socially, because what
thing about him is he's authentic. You might not always agreed,
but name somebody who you always agree that it don't exist,
So don't try to hit me with that. But what

(13:06):
it is is both like people.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Have beclare comfortably because they got.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Santais, they got positions, they got a certain level of
spature in this industry to where they feel like if
you are challenging the status quo, you are perceived as
being a threat. So now I can't attack the message
because the ain't nothing wrong with saying we don't need
to be glorifying the genocide of our old people. So
I'm gonna attack the messengers. So I'm gonna look for

(13:32):
a technicality with.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
De ward of technical you are Tevin Gates old, so
and why would you do it?

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Dere Technically you say we want to sit down to
meat with Jim your own in person or burg Ross
in Percy.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
You MutS to be trying to get over Man.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
If you hear it, you're gonna have the technic crateities neowhile,
I'm dealing with reality, man, but you're but you're caring
seawaters how they can feel that way, and that's fine.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You're like your family realize that.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I can't see how some were co feel that we
because we were used to so many cloud chasers in
this industry especially, and I'm being effective how I met
a lot of people in this industry.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's just like coming on.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
My platform, like yeah, just living one on this week.
Uh man, but you know what he should doing? That
did is stead or I ain't even reached.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Out to him, like seeing nothing of him competal stuff.
He goes something that and that individual reached out to me.
And that's what I was going through. Like I remember
when the industry was getting onto to Baby and Meat
and all of them about being around Michael Ruby.

Speaker 14 (14:34):
And I tell you, I'm like here, but they burying
there and now me being around Baby and we talking
about like Bulers gets out that time Wilbur and he
telling me, now I'm learning this.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm learning that. So I'm saying, no, we getting something
from that. So that my position was, yeah, man, I
land them with the business. You know, and some of
these guys reached out, was like, yeah, it's business past.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
That's why we really aren't real what he lived right there,
we trying to figure out.

Speaker 11 (15:01):
These tax limpballs were never making two or three hundred
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
This is not their long about it hustling. This is
about information at these what they doubting you for wanting
to be aware of people. That's going to help people
called they're a version of yourself. I don't even know
about them.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Man, that's toxic and we got to be able to
point that out and see that ain't coming.

Speaker 11 (15:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Whatever in the culture is toxic if we truly love it.

Speaker 13 (15:25):
If I'm spending the rest of my life in this
culture because I love it so much, if I'm spending
the rest of my life with my woman because I
love her saying.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Much, I'm going to have to address the parts so
I know that say, boll, I love you, but this
agnimates me about you. I love you, but I look
how you be raising our kids, and there's some of
the raiss that you talk to them.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I don't think there's best da dada. We gotta be
able to be this bro.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
And it's such a sensitive verwhere man, because people want
to instantly cast you off as how they instill something
against it.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
There's two types of Marith move. I don't ever want
you to forget this, whether or not we're ever talking.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Again, but as affirmative love, and there's transformative love.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Affirmative love is man, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Getting active and attractive or whatever you know, to getting
it in noa fresh and know what are taking in
nord A street doors so he didn't be to overcome.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Of obstuclest I. That's just affirmative live. I only gonna
build you up and pour into you, you know what
I'm saying. That's affirmative level.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Transformative love is I let you so much love that
I'm gonna offollod you and I'm gonna find a way
to communicate to you what areas of which I'm like, no,
that you could be better in this area, better than
like you could be better like the side of righte
with like that, I get you a matter one of
these from on line to where they ain't gonna be
swaved that poor.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
That's transformative love is I'm gonna affirm you and tell
you what you could be better. The culture is so
used to.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Affirmative love because all we want to do is big
up people to the prog where now you can't even
say that trick off somebody aftermoves back. No more man,
they gonna be better to be beefed outage in the
comment sexual and when I'm coming to the transformative now,
which is like, boy, I clearly love this culture.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I am of this culture. I clearly love it.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
But there are some areas that I want us to
get better. So let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
But these you're going on there it needs more specific.
I mean when I mean that because I agree with
you again Mad.

Speaker 12 (17:21):
The gratification of things that shouldn't be glorified. That I
think the message got to be drilled down where we
can really figure out things to what mess being said
once leaned to it like there's more data, there's more data,
but that thing needs to be given what data it
needs to be given?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Word Well, I did date that the builder shows that
music sticks with us over there any other type of
information we receive. I can't quote you a sermon from
twenty years a little bit I heard.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I can't quote you a message from any of my
teachers that they give me. I can't tell you nothing
that me and my granddaw are.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Not word Paul Recipeace talked about twenty years ago. You
feel me, but I could rap you some hot Bears
nersy years ago word for word.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Rather, the fact of music is that sticky. That's all
the information we need right now.

Speaker 12 (18:14):
Well, well, to see what I mean is when you
right when you're on the campaign trail, as far as
like a politician, you're gonna hear them be very particular
when they're certain markets of thirty three percent of the
people over here, so there's there's a twenty one percent
of that was individual. You're gonna hear them thread this
down said, but common person can because it feels like

(18:34):
that Wi Blue dead, it could come off of us.
That's just to stake my business because there's no solutions,
nooks to up, there's no there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Looks to the damn they may have taken me.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, the solution is three words, wrap your reality the
word if you king VN that's what's what's your thoughts on?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Man?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Man?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I hate I hate what happened to that, but I
absolutely hate that man that pays me, that pays me.
Prove on is a person who I wish that he
would have had time to fully grow and mature into
whom God had ordained him to ultimately be. I wish
trip I had more time. I wish big as I

(19:19):
always soldiers, see them have more time year me.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
But I'm seeing these brothers. They all got what thing
in coming. They got killed in their twenties, you feel me.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Twenties, bro, they didn't even get that shot and that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
So that's the they're just of making certain type of music,
consuming certain type.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Of music where it's like, well we yng, we all
gotta make mistakes. Some people don't get a second chest
through some mistakes that they're.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Making right now.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
So you think, I mean then comes without music being involved.
And I also say that that was a little the
contributed coler Be.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
But Nansic has heard that.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I was young and music is simply an amplifier to
this already going over in life. But that's the only
So why not use that amazing amplifier, call it hip
hop music to amplify the type of change that we
want to see.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
And some people are why you think you're not as
big as Kendrick J. Called somebody, but they have massive.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Machines behind them. Now, if we're talking this talk, let's
get into it.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Jack Cole came out side to rock Nation. You have
a jay Z colet signing. You have a major nable
just now you push it. That's an amenist artist coat signing.
Kendred comes out, decided to who after math Doctor Drake
co signed and you got the top dog infrastructure, top
very entertainment infrastructure.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, can you gonna give me some of the drink
from all want some venant?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Go come?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Can you get too drama Telle Gay Bray give you
two drinks right quick?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah? Or just ken you went to the storey man?
Yeah here, okay, Jack Cale, Kendred.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
They both got amazing tanned life changing talent, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Generational talent.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
But in addition to that Tanner, we know that the
hip hop talent ain't knough to make you successful on
a massive So in addition to the talent, having the
infrastructure and the coast sign of the eight Minutes, autists
like the jay Z and the Doctor Drake that helps
a whole were not so you need massive resources pumped
into you. And at the time that they came up,
which we all round the same generation at the time

(21:18):
that they first came into the game, that was the
era of that coast sign was always like a prerequisite
to getting on. So you got me and why they
were rig You got Big Sean, the Kenyan West, you
got Drake and Nicki Minaj in their way. So for me,
it was like then he tried to get that coast sign.
I wanted to decide to t I real bad back
then real name. I want to decide to t I.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
He was one of them, one boy, Yeah, that Lee
and I got this close.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
I ended up being managed by Gred Hustle, by his laghbor.
But at the time I was managed by them, Tip
was locked up. Unfortunately he had caught their case, right,
dagn So, Jason Jeter was my manager.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Rest in peace, clue, we're the role manager.

Speaker 15 (21:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
My first tour with them, Betters, we're young, drove with
cleaner bike, right, we were all we were all underneath
Grail Hustle at the time. The Tip wasn't there, so I.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Got the grayl Hustle bread but I ain't got the
mad you feel me, So they're like, ah go dang.
So then after that that situation, you know where at
this course, and then it's like, all right, I got
many Fresh. That's why I said, Maddy Fresh is my brother.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Because many Fresh steward next to me at the time
where it was like this d the one is a
different lane than the words has ever seen. But I'm
downing with hold. I met mad In Fresh in the
auto zone that and get that ball on my mixtape.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, he with his sunning y time had my cell
phone them and didn't know the least tape.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I was a college student, bro, and it took funny
years for Fresh to call me because.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
After I met him, he ain't called me. But I
got my weight up. I kept hustling well, and you.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Kept the same number, kept the sad no, but I
still got that sadder. I still got that sam No.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
That's it. I think that's say something about somebody calendar
when it's like, oh where he from?

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Look you ain't dropping ditch in the lumbers, you know, man,
I may have in the same number it says says
I was at high school.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
With that being said Fresh statning on MTV jabs, the
Fresh was like, that's then do from all those uns
she kept hustling.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
He never complained and now looking and he'll know a
TV fresh called me. I went out to Houston, got
the studio refreshed. Who made a saw card the one.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
That got away? That was my first locking click saw
on the.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Radio mainstream rotation seven eight spins a day while shout
out the Q laty three and one of two point
nine for running that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So now all of a sudden, hey d one who
kept waiting the underground artists of the year's.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Three years in the row bet who everybody was like,
but he wasn't there different you know what I'm saying, Like,
we all know it's grummy there, you know that's what
it is.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
It was nobody like, yeah, this one of the worlds.
We got to get behind the rad Now he got
itself on n TV jabs.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
He didn't got the Grand Hustle, toured the country of
the Grand Hustle, fresh Coat signed. They got to hit
song together. Oh sure, the one Cliney is a force
to be reckoned with. But still nobody all away was
like we thin to all to be like take him.
I was talking to YMCNB at the time, like I said,
I always got a shirt left shout out to Slim specifically,

(24:16):
you know, shout out the baby.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
But Selim Maw.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Sniller was like, man, you that dude, bro, Like I
want to I want to have nurture that talent that
you got right me and Slim Tall and Sliminger game
the money before like all kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Man, Yeah, the thing the than Millans do.

Speaker 11 (24:33):
Bo.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I still wasn't getting the nail.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Wayne Cole sat and I'm I'm scoring to the game
as you I can tell Samon Ripkin, I'm like the
only people that's been succeeding over here, Drake, Nikki and
Tiger they all here and the way is standing right
next to them.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
You feel me. They got me in the yam C and.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Be ecosystemall right now, But I'm not getting way the
way Michael Carter Julia to come and stand right next
time me and Wade. I was like that that that's
the Niss and Nick right now. And I didn't foresee that.
Why why you think that was the coriach? Why why
didn't stand.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Those to you? Blue? It was in jail, were Tim
was in jail.

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Okay, so there was universal that, But why don't you
think the Wayne embracement came.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Did they be for Drake and type? Great question because
of no personal beefs and all. Well, I didn't recognize
at the time is way did baby spending the fall
sudden business was in trouble and.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And and that was before it hit the public till
everybody knew like, oh man, this dude was really because
all that money man and all of them and they
the peer will left outside of me the kid money.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
There was all the catch money.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Then you go stay at this time you got baby
a snip that's forming death stable of artists that they're
bringing in that Wayne personally ain't got no.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Part of that. That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Baby, So never got that that that co signed some
of the artists that was like aim this you know,
which I feel like was really needed.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
So what I kept doing, I ain't stopped.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I went on too with Malcamore, that's a nicklemore white
boy out of Seattle had.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
All that shot not here died. I mean shout out
to my dollar that as well been.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Bad sport, beautiful chat I've been cheating with respectfully, like
I ain't no harm by of there.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
That's really really mistake. But Todall, my name was on
all the batis Man, Matt brilland Mac milland that's all
I need it. I need it was that melic so
me and nothing man going to it.

Speaker 15 (26:32):
This one.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
We got that song thrift Shop. You keep going with
my fierce recording because he gone the.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Biggest, biggest soul in the world at the time. And
I'm sitting there like day this man asked me to
come on too with him. So then I'm on Turrible Mackamore.
We go around the whole country together.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Bro, I'm playing in front of thousands of people each.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Night, and I'm sitting there like, dang, I'm really all
the way into game right now. I'm racking up at
the merch table. I'm sitting here really night. I'm achieving
stability financially from rapping for the first time because the
rap it's easier to travel and in order to get paid.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Write that down, man.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
So I was popular for about two or three others
that I was not getting paid.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Then that the more tour changed in my life, right,
and that the partner and we.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Were something that we were talking about was why you
think you didn't get the little wine and break.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, And so all this is happening now. So I'm
telling you what I will spoken on this. So after the.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Macklemore tour, I end up getting a call from the
RCA Records right r c A. They got Chris Brown signed,
they got ACP Rocket ascept third, they got Usher at.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
The Town, Alicia Keyes Gen Easy, both on people. They
called me. We work it out.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
I said, I'm gonna be this deal cash running situation.
I did end up doing that where grandhusted and materialized.
I do the RCA deal with no post sign from
the Big Artist store. Right after I did the r
c AND deal.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I mean, guess what I meet, oh master P right
from my city.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Uh me through mutual shout out to Jay Tweezy shout
out to Junnie, but at the time it was Jay
Tweezy who introduced me to master P.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Jay Tweezy is a real well known program director from
the radio station in bad Ruge. I used to internal
for him when I was in college. I did all
this man yeah, intern for Jimmy Innchman oh man right now,
and you know he he got him around and real
issue received them there. Shout to Jimmy, I was his intern.
You know now that I got music with the game.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's a full circle moment because I used to be
on a game streight team when I worked for Generationally
and not meaning the game for sewing said, but there
showing that you that person, you ad me.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
This, I did this, I did bro So I did so.
When I met p I'll never forget.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
I was in Memphis, Tennessee at the time, and this
was Mugle at the time. It was her birthday, and
I'm out there for her birthday and I get the
call directly from Pee himself. I never met Pee up
until this point, and he was like a little young
and tweezy told me about you and Da Da Da.
I'm to be in New Orleans this weekend. I'm trying

(29:15):
to meet up with you and me and my God
was going through it at the time already, and I
was right, this is potential that was in the lifetime
opportunity for me to meet Pee. He is a legend
where I come from. I got to go back to
New Orleans, and I knew that when I left from

(29:36):
her birthday in n CAD and our time that we
were spending together to go back to New Orleans, I
knew that I had damaged our relationship beyond repair, you
know what I mean. I just didving because she just
felt like, it's another example that you want this more
than you want me.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah I do. I'm sad, Like what does a man
that does not work? And I am bonn It was
an ambitions.

Speaker 12 (30:01):
Yeah, you know, it's unfortunately that that someone will put
that kind of pressure on someone.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
That choose that over there. Tell it was type. So
I went to New Orleans and I ended up meeting
with people and pe tells me everything that I was
looking for.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
He was like, I want to be that co sign
for you, similar to how Dre is for Kendrick Lamore,
similar to how jay Z is for j Cole.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
He's literally speaking what I've been looking for. But I
just signed with r C A literally bro nest the
nest in the month of vidence, just side with our.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
C A SO and Peple building his other day at
the time. This way, he had Andy by Fat Trail,
He had, you know, a few artists from around the
country that he was building his ur stable.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I had just sided with r C A. So, me
and Pece still cool to this day.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
But that was that that that situation didn't materialize in
the lot of that coat sign. So at that point
I did them full fledging the game. I'm going to
I meet NewBay Fiasco. Ivet a tour with New Bay
Fiasco a few minutes latter. We tour in the country together.
That felt like somebody that's closest tonight. But I mean
mentally and music me and it's a real brother. They were,

(31:17):
you know, like, just watched it. I wear did everybody
everywhere I go, people look this watch fight. They gave
me this the last day of the tour. I wear
this watch every b symbolic.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, they remind me even know the front of the
tour was noon.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
They didn't not have brought for me, but they came
in the waters and I opened for him on a tour.
I killed the show, and Luke All was like, now
I respect your house, so d you're doing your thing.
Come on, you want to do we gotta we gotta
couch in the front of the bus and I fold
it out, sick and everything.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But knowing like, man, this is what I prayed for,
is these opportunities.

Speaker 9 (31:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
So I got on the front of that bus and
I weave rocked every show and now looked at Fiasco
as a professor at M I T.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And I'm a professor at to five minutes apart from
each other. So you just naked for the Bunday a
few days ago. That's not due though. Be our music together,
move him and be kick yo.

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Sure, I'm going ball football with these but what was
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Speaker 3 (33:18):
Me?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Oh, man, Dad, I'm one of them, you know you?
So you went down to the door. And so with
that being said at this point, and look, the wasn't
all something like yo, I would have signed you all.
You gotta be my artist type of thing.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
But I started to realize these relationships are.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Just filming organically. You tell me courtesy. I ain't mentioned
my brother courtesy. We go up across the street from
each other where we live. So my horse, he's in
the deuce, but currency where.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
He lived, that in the east, that's where my grandparents lived,
literally across the street from my grandparents' cleb Bro. So
I've been knowing I've been knowing her and this since
I was a little boy. And man, that was something
that I always felt like motivated me to feel like
I come rely do this because when you know somebody

(34:05):
and you grew up with them and you real close
to them and you're seeing the sheet of success, you
feel like, well you dood, I feel out I could
do it.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
So I'm seeing courage to make it in the gag.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
That's motivating me even more to know, like, man, this
rap stuff ain't just a dream.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
This is turning it into my reality.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yo. I blink my eyes and it's like, all right, man,
I've been in the Gary for about five years on
my own. Now I'm making stable money and I'm seeing
my thread and my fan base continue to expand. I
stopped chasing the cold sine and I started just chasing
an authentic relationship with the people that choose to believe
in me. That's why me and my fans so close

(34:44):
well tight, because of what we just like you because
you signed to this person.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
And that's really that's where my podcast stands at. It's
because I perished the people will always been like, yo, ma'am,
we're here for the guests, bro. Like when you be.
They didn't understand a lot of time the gifts and
they didn't do requests to learn Clay feel down that
I want to talk to you about like I don't
remember the first time. Indeed, it was when Dere's Deshaun,
So I got into a.

Speaker 12 (35:09):
Scenario of telling him about expenses and how the labels
keep you in the red and the negative and certain
fans because I was unknown, like, who isn't this guy
like we want to hear him the rugs And fast
forward to the year.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Now they are extremely happy with hearing my perception and
perspective on things.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
And that is important as an artist to get that
footprint in the market that's out saying of someone else's
because they can crarit.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
That out and you go down with that.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
The George was Michael Jerdan without the Chicago jersey on yeah,
and so you just to play shooting.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
You are who you are, regardless of the team came
through that, regardless of that industry and red, regardless of
what breached you all or what adverdication may be.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
You know, that's facts, and now not grealty has been
like so when that was someone asks why I'm not
bigger or why I'm not on this level, I'm like, man,
I wasn't even.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Supposed to be here according to industry standards. Where I'm
in my fifteenth season in the league. Yeah, the fifteenth season.
Its still ascending. Somebody with the Workers Club in a
few days. I don't even in normal right now. That
Mia Star Needro just dropped the.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Bay well last night in the studio, you know what
I mean, mere project, Pat got some heat coming.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
They don't even know this story, Neil, he got some
heat coming. I just dropped my album, fumming into all
of it. And whether or not the person watching this
has it coing me, just know.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
That the album has been massively success right, And that's
and by the time.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
You get to that the r C A bay How
will you continue to get these deals?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Now?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
How do you get a position to continue to land
these deals.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
In this industry?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Better favor a fair and I have favor all over me, right.
I'm the being who.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
People never understood why it is how they It's like
God really got his hand on my life.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
That's why I always have to bring it back to
speaking in terms of.

Speaker 9 (37:08):
Spiritual perspective, because I'm way more spiritual than i am political.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Where there spiritual than I of financial, realmal spiritual than
I am word of me right because anything political, financial
or world of me. I have seen how when you
are to set up pages, you're having the father and
your creator.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Those gayhearsts that.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Typically have to open by way of gatekeepers can open
by way of God. And we're gonna give some We
got the keepers arts away to get to hell. He'll say,
my wanting issue bring him favor. Master P has the
ability to pos sign the artist, great business man, legend
in the game, made a lot of money, laid the
foundation for what we see now as in with pendent

(37:50):
in industry right with the dropping ONTs in mind, just
so many different.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Things he did.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
But do you think in two thousand and anything that
Master of P possessing the building to stand next to
an artist and really turn them up in the way
like a.

Speaker 12 (38:05):
Young guyy a qcp uh of any one of these
other execs and even a baby, a little Wayne or
doctor Joy.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Anything can happen. So that's no, he made me, created,
that made it. And this we didn't think. I'm looking
say yes or no, or you look yes and no.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Less him know And I want you to clarify it
because they're not monaalistic accepted. So if I'm saying anything
can happen, that means towards yes.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay. Because I didn't know who's the P from QC Wethers,
I did not know who he was. I didn't say, well, no, no,
I don't won't.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Matter if I was staying Atlanta and didn't know who
he was about over there.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
He is one of them managed in his industry. Check Clevin.
He's one of the quiet to QC. P was know
in the industry. Never you ain't telling me you didn't
know Pete.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I didn't know pen that when Negos first came out,
when Baby first came out, money man who wasn't even know.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
But pe turned all them up with a kerry lud
no he can't no p oh. Then you got a
good way because Leven turned them up. He was a
street mingle with connections and around.

Speaker 9 (39:12):
And coach k tund them Peel coach all right right,
they really coach. And the nigga with the connections in there.
That's why Pete really got coach. Let's be clear, here's
a street guy coaching there. The good that man in
Jesus Mata is groud. She has been in the industry
for that. Those two the greatham have.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Just unstopped them.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Built P understood you gotta spill the money of the
nagging money, and Coach understood them that this is my
second round and I'm want to get this to the
how to be biggles at I never and they made
the mirror.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
So I'm setting that ko C, P or coach Ky
well by themselves didn't turnin those artists.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Set is the environment got the investment all right, right,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
One that people's coach co and uh Q QCP, are
you one? No, he definitely was. I haven't seen P
invest in that way. Boo. How did you building the
empire got to deal with votes?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
No, No, it was I believe he received an inheritance
from your grandfather.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
He died little that one hundred million time here and
I believe that. And I watched them that. I'm telling
you the investment and my own money to say.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
I ain't talking about even you're talking about q C,
P r K left feety history.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
We're gonna talking about it. We're talking about you. We
said that the little de Fieling left q C and
P Coach Kelly. That was proof. That's if you're right
right there, mag q C and P coach Kelly.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
When things were not profitable and they were like how
older heed.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
So think about the Migos video that once.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
That achieved really and when they did for Sachi video
letter they were actually glut from the strings spinning whatever
thirty forty grand on a video. At a time Pe
was working get the company's fighter Leper at a point
this Overna is lo and le rap Popper.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Willingness should invest in an artist. I don't think master
P can have a cad to coach K and q
c P. You was saying, ain't you crazy?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Ru Let's say and this is why you're created master P.
When you were signing the master P, you were getting
a house in your dad. Let's not know, QCP and
coach give you what they give. They give them all
their greatness grabbed yesterday. I decide to that he from
Lordon that he wasn't the one that just got him.
He was well master P. Wasn't Sherry peaking.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
If you was signing to master P, you were getting
a house and in addition and the house was think down.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
There if all the ship that the music, what you
mean all everybody who asked about pet music, that's a
QC bro.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
They got on in that aldership from the mousey. So
that's why few years ago offset and that they had
the issues with the character. His contracting at that was
about a soul.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
So you hat us out he did nick QC artists
on there on the oller note, they got a decimes.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
They're all interest in their masters, so long understanding. The
sod Ons aren't.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Especially the high earliness than interest in their masters.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
As a potato. Once you becoming, how early we all
go with yourgotiat you.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Know that we all don't give the deal that we
have was did let it ride the money off out
over the snoot Dog looks up to master P as
a businessman to say it without master P his career, Well.

Speaker 16 (42:26):
That way it won't and I shouldn't even believe. Let
him save pe to let sugar v o pias and
so it's all I'm share. The roll is not man
but sugars on shoe bears.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
He says, shoe That's what I meant. Strind Dad Gusshons
on the West coast. P came in, Well we got you.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Down here because they were they were doing there blackball
and then they were talking about Helen Shoe That correct, correct,
you know what I'm saying saying, that's what I mean,
not that's not this snip saint the other way around.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
That's why smooth is indebted. He rolls P. Right.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
But it's like you say, you came from less Ringmond.
It was dog that we got dog and you know
maybe Park had died. Let's start, man, we got a dog.
So P had to talk the.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Industry talk and go hiding Michael Jackson's morning.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It just to get consitation services and go take the
meetings with the labels, but distribution.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Deal with priority to us, like we gonna keep.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Eighty five percent, y'all keep fifteenth percent?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
P did that side AIRP was Baker on and the
hell nor in the operation all set up.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
May be the only person that has came out to
say something about the label QC. And this was about
a sellingar bill and they weren't even signed this selling
little access.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
It was funny because what happens is where's language in.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
The contract that may or may not protect the guest
certain things. And then now all of a sudden they
don't need selling that artists, so they got they got
to look into it. Whatever there's been nobody signed the
QCP and coach k QC the label that says I
didn't get paid.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I don't got my money. He owed me money. Mister
p had a number of people coming out. You want
to watch it. All the money we've done. Bill he
got in the house, but I didn't get it on menity.

Speaker 11 (44:06):
So what happened was you know the game in these
tripping redews, then get your house and you don't give
that mess. I knew ten million off your arm and
got your two hundred dous dollar house. That ain't talking
meness to nobody about we Why did you talk them
to slagis you talked? And that's why I'm telling you
an investment. I know Coach Killian and Kristen cou was
gonna end.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Vets with right look to the five very he knew us.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
He still got calls over the un kiss was he
their things still invested?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Still bad beach still certain budgets never then it put
we sold in the or anything. Let him find this
way down.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Look at riding he's may created celending woe mean it's
profitable but there those guys are willing to invest in
a way that I'm telling your master P wasn't and
they su would tell me what investment the P didn't
too thought the master piece a simple shot there into
multi platinum artists in.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
The story and the story Hollo Man now's the peoples
like him. I'm even gonna invested.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
I finished up he didn't advance No man investment in
this symptoms Walker need self worth.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
The multi plane of artists. See there multi.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Planning of artists vote this is something to worry and
needs a plant of artists bout.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
This is something to where pe was like, I see
what I have been able to build, and I'm going
to use some of this equity that I've been able.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
To blow and make sure that our fester Dad, my
brother's a look out for my actual family whether I'm
not there.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Old Daddy is the best latist ever in the world.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Becays I'm going to unions with our do that have
these resources.

Speaker 7 (45:34):
I do have to invest in their into them boot
that's powerful boat you see Kingston p and coach.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
They will do it over and only war and not
of it because.

Speaker 17 (45:43):
They know it, saying so you were off with b
in my opinion, and I'm telling him is alleged a
lot on the strength for peace he were artis we
ain't invented over and there on, smooth mustard sneath for singing,
he built mystical.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
All right, soon the shotting he was not there. He
was nothing you even.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
Records, No, all right exactly, Sue Case said, Man, there's
nothing but seven, will you all, I'm letting you.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
And the protection in this business and what he takes
to do.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
He ca in the I be that term the old
master pinion, no limit records, but so won around man
victated him to do that. Shout out him, man, mister
s mister servo platinum get mister said, when you said that,
when I'm saying, I'm saying, that shows the power of
with p billhold, No, no, no, no, absolutely, that's market

(46:31):
that's market the navy.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
That's not that's market day. It's just tomorrow time.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
No, that's not the lottle It at the sound. But
I said, pe hadd a chruck.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Hold what at the time to whatever he dropped with seven?

Speaker 17 (46:42):
He dropped once and on That speaks to how powerful
your brain growing?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
That you bi And he built it on his own
belindn't build it by invest them better. We building by
He built it by consistency and dropping news.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I'm telling so he said money he he builts never
been like a artists Pee and coach Kevill Bilod they
made with like sen Roles, Pee, Bill trius Al are
telling you.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So he Bill Tillors like he was the artist back
all right, That's why I'm telling him that. So when
his his his this thought for ourselves of his serene.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
When I'm looking at Lemon, I don't seen the investment
in the artists like I seen Phil Pinchk and the pool,
whether he be Bautch, whether he be tlem Smith see
a better even.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Though living Billy didn't need nothing outside and wait, I
gotta start seeping on the world. He didn't be Memnies.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Exactly, and not just not just memally that nobody knows
moments that did well normally.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
He's didn't even put him in nombal. That's the boy
says with the artists at all. I still don't think
he listened to me, nor this would make people all
comfortable about master P.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
He was jail v and bersh in one he was
al cohol j and Russell Simmons in one here is
real Baby and QCP in one people just killed Fathom
that bro to me, you mean coach care bell me
out and Baby did the same thing.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Was like all the better version of people. So did
theyby not sit there? P and I could put Pe
in college and Slim and Baby because they understand invest
in an artists. I'm telling him P has not done
this real pens investment.

Speaker 18 (48:17):
I understand the formula the whole banded again, Paula Bull,
that's like saying that because you never had a hit
soul or hit artist, lady, that you.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Got lucky the first tat. You don't get lucky. You're
luck your way to forward a million. That's it lucky.
It was the the to seventy five. It was you
was a better factor of the.

Speaker 19 (48:37):
The industry right and also student hustler and and a
and a good business name that I'm telling you that
that is a thermy mission and the scene to to
point into an artist.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
There's a FORMU movie that you think is just a
co sign that you've been talking about when they said
the in the co signs and that artist it's Moredy
goes in there behind me scenes that I.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Think P doesn't possess at this time.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
I think at third point, when he was both of
those artists, it didn't require that investment really requires now because.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Of an oversaturated market, I think the deep was able
to threatle just sorr that them all saying, I'm saying,
let me anybody around here.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
But actually I'm thinking.

Speaker 20 (49:20):
Yeah, coach Killy, P is meticulous, it's paying ballots, investor
inland right, red letter, the beat selection, the feature that man,
this is a different thereom.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
There and and that's also a little friends and master
p is mine. So so we also bith like right,
so right now that I want to try to have
an objective.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Conversentiallyborut, you can't wow, you gonna call him doing right now?

Speaker 6 (49:43):
If that the term mediate investment argue this the investment
side of what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
So the investment side of what you're saying, and that
back then there was no social media, that's how it
would gets you. Their argument is none to void.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Once I hit you with this, you could have just
go online and say well, we're gonna get this to
go viral or be a trend or tiktik, and then
this single rod pop off.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
This album go pop off. You had to spend money
at wading it. Let's not start talking about payota. Yeah
they Intersted are liking something about that.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
But you had to spend money, which is aka investment
at radio.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
To beet an artist, to pop out, you had to
go real promo tours.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Homo tours mean you're paying go out there exactly, Master
people put fifty cent on promo tour. You feel me
like birth took real money. People can't take that away
from him. Then of course he had the Houston. Then
you had to spend money. Bro, there was no other
dead I none need to spend money.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
The Internet was that I paid. What I'm telling you
needed to lean up the family let off.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
What are you telling because the Amish for chos during
that in and you start, I'm telling him the.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
Illustrate they did not require the intention of Dean Cereum
and all these stays a require.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Now, But a real Hausonigar always figured it out. And
I want to tell that. You know, I won't count
Pee out because I like if he figured out a
way to do it now at this point, part being smarter,
part being the boss is.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Simply know how to surround yourself with people.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
That's smarter than you. So a lot of it nowadays
is just what I don't get the new nature of
the industry.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
But I could definitely surround myself with people who do
and I have seen you do that well, and but
seeing the best of about me, I think that p
because to lose three hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
How you know he knows to a hundred million dollars.
We nobody knows if that's rein or not. Bro him
to him way through three money million doll I don't
know why you're playing this game.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
You're playing then for him to have raid through three
hundred million dollars and they'll be in a scenario where
code Evan Sticker would sell the means asked for him
for money to represent him like so, I'm sure you
know that we won't win, But what the course I
want to make is better, I think.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
But when you get out he when you get that
amount of money and the loss grab money for any reason.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
And I mean he's spoke about the Texans and several
things happening in his life, but appreciated his sponge with
what I'm saying is when you when you take the
leving the.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Loss, and I called him a mask because anything that
I have everything no longer to have.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
They can serve me and my family and my business.
I considered that to be a loss. So if he
no longer hear the money. But you said on the
mag we said you don't love thinking late four hundred million,
ain't THET said I did city, So now Hockey, we
can't now say that you wouldn't have or we did lose.
We're still thinking got four hundred. I don't CALLT him
in the mad packet. You come listen to Howard.

Speaker 15 (52:34):
That's not where Street thou a free fall of the
content that I ant that for foreign to do that
the best counting fida do that I read or if
I wad would have said for it when when you.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Live, that's not how counted for asking me to speak
it that or with another man, that's a lot of bell.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Elements what should be all street buggers will do that. Bro,
you said that, I don't know why you do that.
I ain't even get a million. We spake him living right, well,
no you just slip elevey no what clevet.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
On them and eighty right, Yeah, county pocketst isn't me
going in the masterpiece bank account count parties is simply
speaking on what they may or may not have.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Okay, so you're counting pockets as well.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I read with Forbes reported and then came down a
big platform and said, and regard.

Speaker 16 (53:14):
You to it.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
With Forbes, I cited my sor I'm telling you don't
have a source to cite. I'd like that to be
on the REPS next panel about this him and and
so you had to know what money he had.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I talked to you about the money he lost. I
didn't put the three hundred out.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
There, but he was trying to explain the money bag
your why it's essential to pay attention in the menment
and serve some of these under varidy people through kind
little business like in raps next some of them distributors,
number of the people at the store. It's important for
money Bag and he's in these markets to stop in
the stud that's making them two million, They will everybody bed.

(53:50):
Which is the conversation when you were having and said,
my conversation was there, bro, you know sometimes.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
We played king maker. You know the money you have,
the money you lost, like you were trying to get game.
So I don't let you even think I'm talking just
out of ours mosis, because I'm not right. I'm telling
you that that's account pockets here. Don't run calling guy
if I'm sitting there something that's googleable, bro, it is
sir an you call it. Counting pockets is not a

(54:18):
literal turn you right? Not yet, I don't any of
how much money do I think? Ps? Now that's and
I screw up thinking he got the number? You say
to me, have it, but I.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Don't know what pad I really way I say that
I'm being for real because just like he might be, like, man,
it was a less time he had a hit.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Sorrow or something, just how you may say that.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
We also may now realize, hey, how many real estate
investments he got? How many other companies that ain't something
that you necessarily broadcast on Instagram?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Does he have? Just because he choosing to push Cereal
right now, we don't know what else they got? Got
hundreds of means you can play it because there's your brand.
I'm not being for it. I know pe I may
p the beggars repe I'm a high leveled thinker. I
can't play that game. What I will? We agree that

(55:08):
at some point in at Fanny, you don't. You don't
have to conceive the best counting pockets. I'm telling you
my opinion, that's count pockets because the only thing I
was saying that you still thanking God for the mountain
said hey, well I'll well, then you ratter for that.
What's the point after? The point after that is using
that amount of money. I believe he comes with a
level of don't say call annoying. You're annoyed. You may

(55:33):
not in West I may not got the boys coach
camp peel them. They spending that ship like they've got
it like it ain't.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
They ain't see they ain't lived through that like it yet,
whether it's like some Texas or something that had about
old shirting, there went to lots of chomping noney.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
There you go, and after people go through that, you
pull them up. For after people go.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Through that, they might not be just spending cleanzy night
light like there's no tomorrow exactly. But so when life
hit one more in the way their hands on here
another neighbor. Yet you can't judge that first moved one
say well, I mean that he just ain't uh, he
just ain't, you know, willing to invest or. He never
was willing to invest. When life hiture a certain way, book,

(56:16):
you got to understand that that's like a good metaphor
is when somebody come fresh out of jail, Mabige Chmurder
come out of jail. People were so excited to see
Bobie Chmurder that their instantly was like, where.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
The move again? Where the music again? Well, I've been
golf for seven years. Can I live first? Yeah? Can
I live? Love with it?

Speaker 3 (56:33):
But these friends in these industry people are he falling
off because here Todop learning new music matter. I'm trying
to enjoy being a free man, and people will try
to push that on you because for them, they're like, man,
you're almost like my property. Like I feel like you're
just here to serve me. And fans got to really
think about that. I'm about to take this cover another direction.

(56:55):
And if you don't want to of them, don't have to.
But it's your state. I was in Memphis that they're
being got killed. I speaking engagement at a church. Calf Okay,
I'm speaking of church right manage. I'm now I hear
the news and brother the most top sick area of
hip hop culture can often be found in the comes

(57:16):
sections or Instagram come in. But at I started looking
as the noises getting reported, and you see all these
fans who dolement Dolph personally, we do guided personally, who
are fighting out that have grown black man just got
in his life, taking from him, and they just in
the comments making jokes putting dolphin the.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Molojis they in the comments.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I'm telling that jokes on jokes, gifts on jibs there
and I'm seeing this bull and it's so inhumane that
I'm just like this right, man, is something that we
can't ignore. How we got here, and how we got
here was if we constantly are putting music out and
wanting fairs to support it. This girlfriend a negative of

(58:02):
toxic message having to deal with.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Selling or killing people.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Then when it happens in real nice we also can't
expect them to be empathetic and seeing this is messed up, well,
we need to stop.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
This in our community. So the fans take it, tell
stuff further and be like, yep, we go.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Up find out because this isn't number but the videogram
to us and y'all are just entertainment. That's tough, man,
because you got people out here who are really losing
their life.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
It really means a freedom. So how dare I come
across like I'm.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Against anywhere the artists say, Hi, top culture. I'm sipping
here saying, man, these fans don't numb us as much
as we might think.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
But yeah, no, it's saying that ain't mascot, you know
right then't be the maskcot.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
So let's not have an unhealthy relationship with fame and notoriety.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Because a lot of artists, when it's a metal or
bo we can do this all day another. I got
I gotta listen the.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Same way that we signulate, and we can entertain these fans.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And we were like, well, at least I'm getting paid
in the process. Now I'm not startled for five days.
That's why I got to put this lessons out. I
ain't be doing but this is just.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Just going already the head so I'm gonna get paid
off of it.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
The same way we have an unhealthy attachment with money.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Or with fame and success, these fans have an unhealthy
attachment with their artists to the point where they will
ride or die behind autists who they had never met before,
who they going.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Through with them. Artists are going through, but they'll be
out here be filing with other people in real life.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Over an autists did think it's all this better thing
to do, littered and that, and that's problematic. Bro sience,
the familyine business, the pal social relationship is next level.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
And that's the point. I think.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
The point that I the point that I said I
was gonna YouTube, was we have to ask ourselves how
do we have a message, make money, and make sure
that our mental is in a healthy space because.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
We want all three.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Anybody's if they say they don't want to make some money, right,
anybody's right that they say I want my mental health
to be in a crappy place because I'm in the
music industry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I was su excided before I told it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Then before it was in a fit recording while sat
to RCA while in your city in Nashville on a
BT Black Cottage tour, you know what I mean, and
driving here and contemplating kinging myself right there on the
road by myself in the car with a whole deal
with notoriety about on the red coffee for the BT
hip hop woman I'm in the site for that year,
you know, on that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
We have to figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
How can we make it to where positivity is profitable,
to where progress is profitable, because the ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Wrong with a profit, right, hey, nothing wrong with it.
We should be in a book.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
Business and that held the women we told them about
that we should be able to be in hip hop.
I think the all the glorification of getting to the
bag like has become.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Like the eight gold in the North Star for people.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
I don't look up to jay Z just because he's
a billionaire. I don't look up to Kenrying just because
he's a billionaire. Now, what's your character like wherever? Because
that should matter as well, because he could say Donald
Trumpets being there, but there people be that what I
hate in You can say that this person is a
building there, but then there's out here buying and ken
in thousands of people overseas in the WARLD and you

(01:01:15):
know what I mean. So that is what has happened
in our culture, bro Is. We can't act like any
of this stuff is off the table. I'm not telling
everybody to take a vow to poverty and become a
priest and don't worry about making nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Bro Like how Mare's people I'm gonna do what works. Yes,
people are thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Worth the seat and rappers are adopting what the mail
raptors did that worked for the mall and work than
the mail rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Right. They doing the Bue family, They're doing the talking
about the slides and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
And the sex, talk about slider be for each other.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
That that's the big three.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
So when you see these women building this, I'm just
like where the old Jean's at though.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Because what's the gig the beneficial to Haywood.

Speaker 12 (01:01:57):
It's no one gonna be able to tell that someone
like a sexy red I have two three children.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
This is working, sir, Like, what do you say? You
come in here saying working for whom? For hire? Okay,
but what is the doing to the millions of people
that is in wash? First you first, you worry about you,
then you worry about at us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
That's called individualism, right people, we need that, but everyone
everyone worries about themselves for absolutely. The ma's a little
how it needs of course self presonation. That's gonna be
that's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Valid on that. That's part. If you truly would be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Progressed, we gotta start to think about we will make
progress Again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
That's why I say there's time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
She like we were talking about jewicsh word and these
people not getting a chance to actually develop.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
There's a developmental process. There's a learning curve that these
people have to bail through.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Right A lot of times little critical of people that's
in their twenties, like a Silxie red ntch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I do know how that some of their messaging comes off.
But YO, self preservation is the first thing I think, like,
if that's working, how are you gonna come to that?
To stop that? It's gonna be rough to anyone. It's
gonna be roughed to tell on even these guys are here,
it's gonna be roughed. Same way. We've got to stop hustling, bro, Like,

(01:03:12):
you're hurting the community that I'm fleeting. My baby. Yeah,
but I can do with alternative, And that's the one
gotta hear. That's what it is now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
The alternative has to not only be an alternative, but
affect him an effective alternative fair enough, but also as
to be something where I might tell that person you,
you might make less money than he was making hustling.

Speaker 20 (01:03:31):
But you're gonna gain exponentially emotionally spiritually and mentality, because
now think somewhere maybel you give the game, you can give.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Sick away because my favorite about you is I think
you're gonna have to stat just.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Giving the game without being in these people presence. I
think that that's gonna be where Kidney is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Here for these people, even though they're going in behind
clothes for us to say yeah. But he tells me
he want to meet with a nigga, I don't want
to if that sounds like something is in the bed now,
and I know it's that, bro. I'm listen because when
I heard Jerry, when I hear it, when I heard
didn't response some of these people, I'm never because how

(01:04:09):
can he call.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
Him a cloud chase because I know it is theyre
taking their demons, and when that happens, then people just
gonna be like, I gotta take a low blow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
I got a nan call. I gotta make fun over that. Man.
I'm not a disrespectful dude that I'm not out here.
I don't walk around on best strapped and then like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I'm not looking to fight in the title. But I'm
trying to be like Jesus Christ. So with that being said,
when he gets to the point where people come up
and either threatening me physically or just want to make
fun of me and make fun of my ask saying
and saying I'm the basket head and all this type
of stuff, or when people want to instantly call me
a cloud chasing something about my spirit is irritating your demon.

(01:04:44):
You don't think it's your words what you said to him, Yeah, bro,
you say it something to me like you said something
about mind.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
I'm not doing mind of mine business. We just dropped
out and make sure we can walk. We just dropped
out and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
We're doing our left pro Yes, what you said, because
if somebody called the new game tomorrow, I'm sitting there,
you clown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Not if they're on deadthorst called if they are a
Bucks club. I was never saying something about you that
was riddling money. You came to responded, you know nothing. Well,
I mean I ain't said why because that's not middle
to know that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
I mean it was in the grass skating of what
you've been able to accomplish. That dude saying that over
that didn't stop man, It doesn't affect anything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
It deserves a response from a market standpoint, right, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
But it was just Rand Steve and for my point,
which is why I said I could still let him
Joe bending to this day like that's why you didn't
understand what I say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
That is because that didn't buy to be over that
type of level to where I lib. Intentions are important.
Intentions are very important. So if you intended to to
to to chop me down, that's why I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Wasn't able to speak to some of these well guess wait,
and I let you to the mean player because I hadn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I had no desire to know. Do your blessings call
from any of them?

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
People?

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Though quiet blessings call bad because in death, your atilt
to shop me down is sippy a waste and what
a valuable time here because you're not gonna schop me
down because you don't feed me yet, so you can't
starve me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
You shure youward me that your intensions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, and because of our intentions, it's like, all right,
that might mean that we ain't gonna be best friends
at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
But what I can't hug you and I can't hug you,
and you not see that's mature to me. It's like
there's a lot of sting curving and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Oh okay, okay, Well with Jesus nothing nothing was fake
in the church. There's a lot of fake, a lot
of stuff, a lot of fake you know, whole bunch
of types of the head. And there's also a lot
of real behavi Would that being a sayable judas Judy's
sould Jesus man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
He read not doing. Oh Jesus he like this way. Hey,
y'all comen't get anything upset that y'all taking. Y'all go
kill him for thirty pieces of silver, right, Jordis did that?
Guess what Jesus did? Wash that man feet at the
last supper? Wash his feet. I'm stay citty, I mean,
I mean, that's how, that's how. That's how the boy
has been said. That's why I'm always giving me home.

Speaker 15 (01:07:05):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
I'm not holding our respect there, bro. That's it respect
for that man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
And I'm digging into it because I'm trying to get
some information.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
To incorporate some of it. You're saying, so, but I
don't leave it be the shield and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Better equals safe. Yeah, they keep you selling hold of
the nigga. They do a sivil word about me. No,
that's that's because that's my north star. God is my
north star. So I'm looking at all of the behavior
that's already been modeled. Man, Jesus did this already?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Cool? Hanging in this? How may do? Why?

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Gay?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
I want to come on, man, I'm gonna tell you
some reals. I'm bess thaying you so bad. They trying
to tear it down. But you know what, it ain't thating.

Speaker 20 (01:07:47):
I woted.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
First of all, I'm a mad man. I got it
and there oh yeah, this thing you got, but they
can affect it destroyed the affect. I think, I just
I think I'll just be sitting there. If you know
the truth of the Brian if you know the truth,
Curry and you've seen somebody talking them about you and
you need it, man, But what you can't do is
stop these balls.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I'm about to spit on a little show.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Or stop this from the Hood to Harvard out, or
stop this this hip hop children's book David farn his
slave shot that y'all need to go get and then
shave the lives.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Of thousands and thousands of people independently.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
You know what I'm saying with sol as we all
let be said. I think I'm just in your place
now where I wasn't there thirteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
When I'm in that world and I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Seeing inconsistencies and people's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Behavior and character. But they got all the leverage because
I'm like, I'm not you need this person say that
I ain't well, brother, I ain't fail. And I want
to tell you this. This is just another example that
the dudes they had the gun to my head, you
know what I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Mean, when I was in college, man, Like I said,
it's somebody that's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Uh, pretty well known who you know, some people might know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
I would say a good bit of people will probably.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Know who they were. This person's partner, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Me and this Curson sense then, because this is a
like I said, a public figure have.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Crossed paths

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
At least five times in life, right and

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