Feat Tafia - Tafia Talks Trick Daddy Street Cred, Drake & Lebron James Beef, Rick Ross, Kendrick Banging - Ep-231 - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you respect Trick Daddy? And then what's your relationship
with Trick?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ain't got no relationship with him. There's no rapper from
Miami that's doing what I'm doing or did what I did.
Like the facts, I'm talking from Rick Ross all the
way down. I'm really outside for real. These things go through,
But I really did that. I'm really that for real.
Like even with the Trick Daddy's like he was always
had backing them, I didn't have nobody backing me. I'm

(00:25):
gonna be real to can't nobody run Miami. I'm saying
it on camera like this is this is stuff people
from Miami. No nobody can run Miami. You can't come
out and say I run Miami.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
No, you did right last night, Kendrick just did that
big concert.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
That was hard.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That that was some real life even though Kendrick not
like you know, Kendrick is.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Kendrick, but he confusing me because he looked like a
gang bango.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
But yeah, we done lost a lot of lot of
hobies to this music, a lot of hobies to the
street from each side of Mother l A Crisp Blood
Powers Special.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Man, Yo Yo Yo Yo, Welcome to us up that podcast.
I am your active and attractive host for another episode
of the fastest growing podcast on the market right now. Man,
you know the vibration is how on this side everybody
can't come on this platform. This platform ain't welcome to everybody.

(01:33):
I want to be clear with that.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
So what we're doing today is, Man, we're gonna talk
to one of my player partners out of Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Man, big toffee. Man, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
What it is? What it ain't? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
What's good with you? Just cooling? Brother, I'm just cooling.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
How you should have Man, you know I've been wonder
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Man. Yeah, Man, it's a blessing, brother, It's a blessing. Man.
You know the game we need these conversations facts for sure.
For sure.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
We've been chopping game in a way behind the scenes. Man,
it be It been good conversation all real.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
You know what I'm saying. You know, similarities.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
We're telling me For people who don't know who you are, Man,
explain to them who you are and where.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
You're from from a Haitian man, you know, from North Miami,
born and raised in Miami, real Miami. You know, Uh,
I'm really what they ain't if I could make it short,
what you listen to, They ain't this man, I'm the
real deal, and you know the real deal always got

(02:33):
to go through it. We take It's like me take
the take the suffering that come behind it because we're
trying to make it, you know, better way for better
way for our lives. And you know a lot of
people they perpetrating trying to make it seem that they
wait till they make it to be that.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I wonder why why the addiction to the addiction
to that side of the culture like.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
That, Like, I wonder what that's about.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Is it because of the women, the money, the money,
the money number one? You know, but the street fame
hit hard too, though, no street fame hit hard. But
you know, once they started touching that paper, you know,
money bring power, so they feel like they chest buffed.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Out a little more. They ain't ever used they're not
used to it. You had that money, but you not
really like that. So once you once you tap into
that atmosphere, it'll only last for so long because you
not really like that for real.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
So when somebody pushed back, Hey man, Mike Tyson, punch
out right.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know what I'm saying, when somebody pushed back, you
ain't gonna know how to handle it.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I wonder, but street fame or rap fame?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Which one I rather?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Which one you think is more poland ship or.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Rap fame it's stronger. But I'd rather street fame the
rap fan.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I think rap fame because you could be a famous rapper,
don't nobody give a about no disrespect, but like and
show up in the hood, and it really don't mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Depending what type of music you're making. Right, if you're
making the music for the streets, the streets because they
don't want to go back you all day, right because
you come from that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
But if you a rapper just to be a rapper,
the street's not gonna relate to you anyway.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And then and then, like you said, fame gives you power, right,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So that power power?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, the power dudes with you.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You said you did seven years in jail, Tell me
about that.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, I caught seven years, my first time in handcuffs.
Eighty seven months, I'm getting arrested, first time ever running
into the police.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's hard. Yeah, I had a breakup.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Boy, I ain't. I ain't ever moved slick the first
time I did, first time I had this year, I
always myself. First time I.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
What was the case? What kind of case?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Robbery, robberie farm hobsack, Yeah, fifty grand the casino, Oh
from the casino.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy. So it was you
and two dude and then.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Three three dudes. Okay, yeah, yeah three damn. Did y'all
get the money at least?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, we ain't get caught on the spot. We got away.
One of the dudes wanted to go back and do
it again, got caught up there, told on everything plus
Jesus Christ, right.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Man, that's crazy what you've been working on right now.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
My last table I dropped was Street Fancy Foe. That's
how I came. I came in the game with that mark,
that Street Fancy. That's like, you know, it's me like
street with Bougie, Like you know, I'm cutting up. You
feel me, I'm giving you the raw, you feel me
if you go back to the first Street Fancy, Well,
the table I dropped before Street Fancy was Guerrilla Dripping.

(05:58):
You see. I got on a little h and them
sweat suit with some Jordan ones. I just got on
fresh shot. They ain't got I'm on the bus. You
feel me the next tape cover, I'm in Margella's. You
know what I'm saying. I got a couple of little
chains on. You see the difference street fancy to come out.
You see the rollies, you see you know what I'm saying.

(06:18):
Like you see the growth, you.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
See you know what I'm saying. People appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You see the videos. I went from on foot doing
videos doing things. I'm in these cars like you know
what I'm saying. I showed matter of fact when I
got my money straight. I did a video to emulate
exactly how I was living before I got on. I
did a whole video, made the camera. Come on a

(06:41):
bus with me? Do yeah, come on a bus with me?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
What I think it was?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Can you hear me? Yeah? I think it was. Can
you hear me?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Can you hear me? And then I'm going on the bus.
I'm acting like I'm looking for a job. You know
what I'm saying. And see me I jump pull up
to the church on praying, pull up in the big
body bends like you know what I'm saying. Like I'm
showing you that.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
When you when you you did seven years though? What
what what jail was that you was in? Fads went
to the Fed. Yeah I didn't Miami fans.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
But that I mean, at least you got to stay
in the at the crib though.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, yeah no, but they moved. They know, they made
me do hard time. They left me in the I
ain't see the sun in six years because I ain't.
I ain't talking. They ain't want to send me to
a yard where you know, they sent the niggas that
told to a yard where they had the football fields,
and they sent them there. They ain't want to see me.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Damn, six years, you didn't see the sun.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's deep I came out. I was Danny your color
when I came out like a refrigerator. My case was
state first. They didn't have enough evidence on me, so
they dropped it. Yeah yeah, fast picked it up.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Damn when you explain to people who don't know what
Zoe pound.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Is, so pound everybody got there. You know, they didn't
put on them. But really to my you know, I was,
I was a baby when that's that's going on. Nah,
I was, I don't think, Yeah, that was I was
a baby. When that about to be over with, you
know what I'm saying. When yeah, so pound really liked

(08:21):
it formed where the Americans was picking on the Asians
in jail or in school.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay there starting in school.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
They ain't know how to dress, they're not speaking on English,
so they're with them. They're picking on them girls up boys.
They jumping them every day after school. And then certain
ones that wasn't going for that, they said, nah, we
ain't have an issue. We ain't going we ain't going
with it no more. They clicked up and they started

(08:51):
fighting back. But they just went a little harder. You
know what I'm saying. They put they went a little harder.
So and then now they go for It's crazy because
they go from that. You just picking on these people
for no reason. You jumping on them for no reason,
just because they don't not speak English, they't with you
or nothing. Because one thing about Haitians, even in.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
The eight.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
They grow up to respect like they I'm gonna be
real true. Majority of the Haitians can't fight, bro. They
don't know how to fight. Fighting in the streets, if
it's some fighter, it's like gonna be two seconds. Like
some wild. It ain't they don't know how to fight.
It's not really going on, So we don't really come aggressive.
We can be though, but so these people getting picked

(09:35):
on at first they scared because they're not they're in
a foreign country. That is going on. This is what
this is what this is, man hold on. And then
now we're the crazy ones. Yeah, now we're the crazy ones.
Were the crazy ones, like we were y'all just jumping
on y'all, y'all, punching females in the face, all types
of like and then you know, and then that created

(09:56):
from then and it just got a little more.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
So those and the pound, these are different things.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Those and pounds different things. Those is just what they
call us. It's basically like saying Haitians. But it was
calling those because means bones, so they say our bones
was hard like because we like we're tough like type ship.
But those is like calling Haitians. I didn't know that
pound is like that was hard.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
There was the click that was doing all the you know,
I think it really started a music group really, yeah,
it was a music group and then it was just
doing their gangster. Yeah, you know, it just got caught
up with it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do the those run Miami?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah pretty much.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, yeah, tied in every what.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, we want making it, we want making the cheese.
Like what's the name said on Tommy Tommy Lee from
Love Hip Hop? Was it Tommy Tommy? I don't watch
it the females.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You know old Tommy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
She she was with our dogs. And then she said
straight up, She's like, I never seen a group of
young not even a group. I've never been to a
city where all the young was rich, y'all those different yeah,
y'all those different like y'all have a real money. I

(11:20):
never seen that no where, like and y'all standing on
business like. She's I love y'all, I love the hate,
like you know what I'm saying. So we turned up
because we was We was the ones that on early on.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
And that's crazy, bro. Yeah I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, bad like begging. When we was young, it wasn't
even cool to say you was Haitian like he was
getting paid in Miami. I'm talking about in Miami, right, Yeah,
But you know, back then, besides Florida and New York,
nobody really knew what Haitians was back then. Yeah, you know,
it started becoming a you know, it's Haitians everywhere though,

(11:55):
but they didn't they didn't know what Haitians was because
a lot of people were scared to say they was haiti.
There's just as much Haitians in New York that is
in Miami, you know what I'm saying. But they wasn't
telling people they were right right Boston too, Connecticut, that's
where they flooded at Haitians. Haitians, you don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Is a different style though, Like because because y'all like
our homeboy, you're a big player, so y'all got a y'all.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Got a certain style. Yeah, as in Miami, like you say, young,
rich and right.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
You know what I'm saying, I'm not sure that like
like my guy right here Haitian. You know what I'm saying,
he a different totally different type. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
It's it's like it's different styles.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Do you think the culture American culture kind of got into.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It a little bit, Yeah for sure. Yeah, Yeah, the
Miami culture just different.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
We just.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
We raised different out there. It's just different, Like the
real Miami is different bro yea like everybody like it's
kind of like everybody for self, Like he's trying to
nobody too friendly, you know what I'm saying. That's why
it's like it's kind of hard to make it out
of there.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah. Yeah, do you ever did a song with Kodak No?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
But so why y'all ain't done a song? We just
ain't do. I'm waiting on him.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, he and Miam and that should happened. Yeah, we know,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, no, you know he wanted them wars you know facts, Yeah, yeah,
he wanted them. You know. He don't like he don't
like when people say you're from Miami from broad right,
but he's from Florida. Yeah, he from down there.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, so you would think Florida is Florida, you know
it's like yeah Brown, that do make sense though.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
He do post a standing on that though.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah that brow he's staying on here.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
How far is that from Miami?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
He's from pumping on, pumping on from my life, Uh
about forty forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, that's that's a that's a little ways, that's a
little ways.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
He real broad deep and broad Yeah, broad.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Big what what hoods did you come from? Over there
was it?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
And then ives Dairy and then be with no Miami
no Maamy for no Miami that and then be the
ives Dairy bet no Maam.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Do y'all do y'all get upset when tourists make it
seem like Miami South Beach.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean, we don't get upset. We just we understand
because that's where the tourists is supposed to go, you
know what I'm saying. They don't know like the other side.
They don't got no business going on to the other side.
Ain't really nothing there for them unless they they happen
to find some restaurants. But they think all the all
the good restaurants on the beach. Really the food on

(14:44):
the beach.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I ain't never had no good food.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
On the food because there's people that's not from Miami
putting restaurants on the beach for the most part, unless
finger licking, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Fanger licking shout out to them. What about last night,
Kendrick just did that big concert.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
It was hard. That was some real like even though
Kendrick not like you know, Kendrick.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Is Kendrick, but he confusing me because he looking like
a gang bangle. But he raised, he raised, he raised around.
He always mentioned it though, like he I know we
we he made he make it clear that he.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Ain't that yeah, but he raised around it like you
know what I'm saying, and that's what is. But see,
if I was Drake, I would attack that part of it.
I would have.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Can't take Yeah, you think it's it's done, leave him alone,
don't mention nothing.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
So you just let him dish you five times, run
the song back five times yesterday, and just let that
go because, in my opinion, Drake get to use Oh
you want to play tours and shows.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I got a show.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I can do a show, not what the records I got.
But the boy can sell up. The boy can sell
some ship out now. So I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Though he could sell it out, but he ain't gonna
look out how.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
It ain't look him got the records right now, that
not the records, the niggas.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
You see how the niggas made it a movie. Everybody
know Kendrick gonna sell out some ship you already noticed.
But the way he made it like a movie like
that with them niggas on the stage, that was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
But that was beautiful for us.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
If I'm Drake and I gotta go with Kendrick, I
say that that's a whole bunch of niggas.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's that's trying to you. You're stealing credibility.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
How you gonna go out of a nigga when you
already waved the white flag?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's what I'm saying. You can't.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
If I'm Drake, you know I waved the white flag already.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
How you waved the white flag? Man?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
When he came out with that, the last song he
shouldn't even much came out with it, but I forgot
what it's called was horrible and the last, the very
last one he put after he Kendrick came out with
you not like us? It was horrible.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Bro, No, bro hell.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Not family matters. I ain't talking about. Ain't the last one.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I think that's the last.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
No, No, that ain't the last one.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
We got right here. You ain't know.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Come on, man, he supposed to be keeping up with it,
and I think that's the Ain't the last one? Family member?
Family matters came out before you not like us? Then
he came out, You're not like us? And then he
and then he came out with. Drake came out with another.
But the one he came out with he basically singing
on the song, yeah, that shit was hard. He basically
saying the song was hard.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Ah, man, you're talking about the hard part six terrible, Damn.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Damn the hard He ain't but to be honest, to
be fair, he ain't even try.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Like is that to be trying? No?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, no, he ain't even try on that song. If
you listen to it, he gotta be trying. He ain't tried, bro, everybody, Bro,
the man got hey, how many how much was it?
I think he got a million dislikes or two million dislikes?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, but they just figured out that that they will
body it up though.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
No the song horrible.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, but they had a nigga on that yesterday saying, man,
they boding this right here.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Man, I'm the one body it for him. I don't
know if it's true or not.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
They just kept everybody could come out and say they
called hi him K butot now no, he's trying to
He's trying to get some anybody. I said, not a
song bad though, he ain't even tried. Bro, you heard
what I say. I ain't saying, he God, but he
ain't tried. You telling me about this, I don't want
to hear no more.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
He ain't fucking with it. Listen, man, let me just
see what he says.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I was like, Man, I'm like, bro, he shouldn't even
came out with it.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Bro, nah is it being less evasion?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You know?

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Just say it's a re choice if thinking this is
my expliration? Even that picture was the jokes in the
Medicai said that the made bad glove and.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
That ain't that bad? Bro.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
You listen, you're gonna see when he weared the white flag.
He waved a white flag in that.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Song, he waved a white flag.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
He only rapped for like a minute. How long the
track is he? I have seen the jigs in six
months that this this this four minutes long exactly. He
only rapped for like a minute and a half.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
The rest he talking. Yeah, I don't know why he
keeping came out with it.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
And jos said, did instead of being on this direct ship,
you rather fucking grab.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Your panty with direct ship? My mom came over today.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
And I was like, mother, I mother a mother. Wait
a second, this about it getting so depressed and he's
trouble for your old.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Confessions that when your father leave your own noble.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
With no protection, so and so.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Think about it. You come out with that after you
not like us? That was after Yes, this is after
yeah bro.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah nah he boys ship, That's what I'm saying, Like
you slowed it down.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
He came out with what was it called family Matters?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, the first one with that box pop push ups drop.
That was some ship. He should have came out with
after you not like us?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, he don't. You shouldn't have slowed it.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
That one's supposed to be the first one. Family Man
is supposed to be sicking, and then push was supposed
to be last.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So you think if he did a different order it
would it would.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But he ain't know it's gonna go like that though.
But after you're not like us, you come back with.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
That can't come come on, you can't slow it down
like and you ain't even you ain't even get mad yet.
To the point when he started even White Flag, when
he started telling him letting it known that the song
was hard, he's like, yeah, I fucked with it, like yeah,
he waved it like but but I mean, I come
out with the song you might not come out with that, but.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Real, it's real. If the song was hard, it was hard.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I don't I don't mind that. Don't come out with
that period though. Don't say it on you killed yourself.
I guarantee, if you would never came out with that
song afterwards, he would have still been all right. He
could not say nothing. He could have just he could
have tweeted, I ain't gonna like that was hard and
that's it, and then people would have gave him people
like everybody would have laughed it off. But the fact
you came out with that, it's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Denny Jump followed back with sixy red song.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
He been fucking with sexty red Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, he ain't know what.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
To do after that.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
After the fight.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
You can't come with that kind of ship though. You
gotta gone double nine like you're saying that dude drop.
But now I'm gonna be honest when I listen to
not Like Us Now, it.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Don't hit like it did when it first dropped.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Nah, I shit still hit. That's shit all. I ain't
gonna cap to you, bro, it's hard. I'm I got
a ear for this ship. I don't just bop anything
that ship hard.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Ship hard, but it ain't hit the pocket. Is he going?

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Ain't like that shit hard?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think it's hard and it will be real with you.
I'm not a huge Kendred fan. When I say I'm
not a huge Kendred fans, like I'm not jumping in
my car bumping Kendrick. I listened to trap shit, but
I fuck with Kendrick. Kendrick all motherfucker, but that ain't
my type of style of music. I'm from down South,
y'all don't really listen to too much West Coast music
like that. I know about it. I'm tapped in, but

(21:37):
I can't lie and say, oh, I'm a big Kendreck fan,
like I'm not a huge Drake fan. I listened to
Drake songs just like I listened to Kendrick songs. Like
I said, I listened to trap music. But when I
heard that ship, I said, bitch, the first thirty seconds,
I'm bopping.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, But now it don't hit the same.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Bro, I don't know why I don't either, that's all.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Like I heard it five tasks last night. He ran
that bu but he killed last night. Though, when I
listened to it, on my own. I ran it back
five times on his own.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I let it just and I don't get tired of it.
That's how I know the.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Song hard man. I don't know how you doing that.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I'm not listening to it every day.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, but I'm just come on.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm saying it's a good song. I ain't saying it
ain't a good song. It's definitely a hit. It's a hit,
but I'm talking about my passion and level. When I
first heard it, like in response, when they was in the.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Middle of the fight, it was like, oh my goodness,
he just right brought the missile out. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
When they played it back yesterday, you know it was
hit and still, but it didn't give me what he
gave me.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I ain't gonna lie that ten times harder yesterday with
them niggas on the stage.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
See, I don't look view it like that.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's just like when you hear a song at first
but there's no video to it. But then when they
dropped the video and made the song harder. Now it's
like that.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, but but but all them niggas. I don't never
view a bunch of niggas like that. Because I've been
told on. I know I can shut the door with
a couple of these niggas say let's kill each other,
and they ain't gonna want to do it, but they
up here, you know, I don't. I don't view a
bunch of niggas floating gangster ship, you did, I don't

(23:14):
view that that way. I view that like I'm saying, yo, bro,
this supposed to be you and this dude rapping like
wrap this thing all this gangster ship.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
That don't do it for me.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Now it wasn't even again it's the culture, you know, Yeah,
I love, but it's.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Like in a boxing match if everybody get in the
ring with the other boxer, like we boxing like you
as much.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
As y'all gang banging, throwing your ship up, y'all stay
outside the ring though we boxing this whole ship.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I started this ship with a drake this he come
out the thing boom right into what was the first song,
the neutralizing when he say, uh the famous actor we
once knew is yeah, he comes straight out of the
tunnel with that.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
So he like this what he owned, bro. He was
selling shirts.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
They had the the Chinese restaurant in Toronto.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Warn't it right, So he coming with this. But I
just think in a boxing match, you.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
On all these niggas, like I'm talking about our culture
for us salute for the gang banging world, salute.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
It was a show to entertainers. All the niggas was entertained.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
But there was a show on riding on the back
of this and Drake.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
And they're showing that this.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
This Kelly, but they was.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
But I'm saying, but I thought, Kelly, but I thought,
Kelly believe in the fair ones.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Let me get my fade cuz.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
They still got a ride with days though.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, but let me get let Kendrick handle his fade.
It's over. Also, that's what you said, yes do I
don't think it. I think you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Listen to the rest of the song, then agree with yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
And you know what, I think they ignite you.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I think I think when you bring this, I think
when you bring in the show aspect of it, right,
I think you not elevated it. I don't think it's
over at all. Now it's over. When you listen to that,
you understand what I'm saying. But I still called it.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
He basically called it quitch and then moved on to
the sexy red shit.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
He done with it. He like, I'm gonna tell you
what he said to himself. I ain't gonna lie that, nigga,
kip me. Fuck it, I'm rich, I'm drake. I'm finna
keep doing what I'm doing. Fuck it, it's over. I
lost one. He even said it, he said, I lost
one on does no fast forward a little like thirty seconds?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
More? Man?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
All right, there you go. It's more intimates.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I'm praying you recall both in both incidents, but your
piece of shit, so this shit really know coincidence? Trait
is not a name that you can see on the
sexistent that it is easy. Does it?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Make sure you get his face in this flag. He
is not impressed at all.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I expect the way better for me.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I will say the response to the the a minor
with the d he made that ain't doing for me.
I don't think that ain't minor hit hard on the motherfucker.
When Kendrey said, you're trying to strike a chord, and
it's probably a minor that hit hard, he tried to
respond to that with this with that be major boy
didn't do what it was supposed to little and.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Then Lias easy does it you ain't. I listened to
ninety percent of that song. I never listened to it again.
One time.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I'll slitch and throw with the razor and through red
Cross air like that one flight throwing Lasier.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm your baby, mama, scrape.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Say, but that's fucking with Whitney's not really Bobby Brown's.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I never looked twice at no teenager. I'll fucking hit me.
It's like he hes trying to put himself out of.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Hate danger, stop irefusing by com mans. You may as
well keep the baby or shit you out.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
The need for later.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I keep the fuck about your streaming data and you
can drop over there more recase.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'll see you later and then maybe when you meet
your maker.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I don't want to fight.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
With a woman, be the feature in nature.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
If you're still pumping r Kelly, you good thing to save,
you said, if his.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Music and yours music.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, I remember what he said that. Damn. Now here's
what I'm thinking the pressure of getting back in there
too quick.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I think Drake gotta let his shit bake a little bit,
like he gotta sit and think.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Kendrick just seemed I don't know what the fuck happened.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I'm gonna be real with you. I already knew how
I was gonna go from the beginning, but I didn't know.
I ain't expect Kendrick to come back with it. You
not like us. I'm like, this nigga finna get into
this battle with this dude, Kendrick of wordplay Assassin, Like
that's something I know. I heard about Kendrick when I
was in prison. The wordplay is crazy on that boy.

(27:48):
That's the first time I actually compared somebody to Lil
Wayne from wordplay, well for wordplay wise, that's the first time.
I would never compare no rapper to law Wayne. Right,
that's the first time I was like, Yo, this nigga
really that Like, I'm like he from the get see
me and symbol you know something? And I say, yeah,
I know what I'm saying. And I said, and Drake

(28:08):
will come back with a bop to to to really like,
because that's that's a that's a that's a play. Yeah,
you're talking and you can make people bop with at
the same time. That's all you win. It's like Gucci
and Jeezy were doing it. You know what I'm saying
back in the day, but then Kendrick beat him at
his own game.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's facts.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
He is like he wouldn't pull the trigger. He waited
too long to pull the trigger. He suposed to pop
right out with his super power. But he don't respect
the opponent.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
He never respected Kendrick as being as big as him.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
As like in that strategy with him. And from the
beginning too, he was talking. Yeah, he was saying, come.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
On out, Nigga, knocks down Nigga. I ain't going back to.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
High research homeword like a real killer homeword. Yeah, he
was doing his homework. That's how you did that. When
you do your homewhere, you win. He was looking for
whatever he was on the top he was, and.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
He took care of that. But I don't I don't
know if I agree that it's over.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
It's over.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
I don't know, bro.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
When I said over, I mean like, I don't think
to be honest, one is over. No, round three is over.
It's old.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's a twelve round fight.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Though the first round drake one, second round was a tie,
third round ship unanimous.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Man, you think it was a knockout, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
It wasn't. It wasn't a fair law. It was a
t k O bro fuck.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Fuck man.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, you know that when you when you get a
chancet to he know he's saying.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
It, boy, he said that like he said, he said
that if you're gonna just lie by me being a
pedophile and all that.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Ship, yeah, he's like, I ain't gonna lie this song like.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
He said hard he said, I ain't gonna lie bop
to it if it wasn't filled with lies and ship like.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Right right, right, you know what I mean, what do
you what do you think about lying though?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Like I would come with you, diss it, come with
battle rap. So yeah, of course you're always gonna say
the word ship. You can say P word though, P word.
That's something. But I don't know what they know. I
don't know what you know. We don't know. All we
could do is listening to joy the music.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yea is it?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I can't get deep into it, right, I don't know
these people, you know, I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Right, yeah, it's like, but I wouldn't respect a nigga
hitting me with that word, like that's what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
You can't just like fighting, but you can't fight to.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Do with it yeah, whatever he thought.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
You got to accept You gotta accept that what you're
gonna stop and say what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
But let's get back to the analogy I was having.
So you feel as though that.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
This isn't Kendrick trying to tag in a bunch of
support as it pertastes that Drake, you view this show
as not only for June teenth, but as like it's over.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
This is the victory lap. This is it that a
real show? Dre there like he smoked.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Lebron's out there. Broun loved Drake.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I wonder what that's about.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I know it ain't no beep Lebron just love rap,
love music.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Can Drake feel away though he probably is?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Is it cool to feel away? Because you can't really
feel away?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I play for LA It's one of the biggest shows
in history in Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Right. I fuck with Kendrick too.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
But it's like tough man because it's like, yo, bro,
I've been calling you big bruh, and right, you see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I wonder how Drake feel about that.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I know he ain't wrong for feeling type of way. Yeah, well,
what can you do? One thing I learned about his industry. Boy,
you can't get any your feelings. It's an ugly industry, right,
you can't get any feelings, bro, it'll.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Really fuck your creativity up. How fucked up this and everything?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
How you looking at your double checking yourself? Like? Am
I the one that's tripper? Like? And when you're not tripping,
you're not tripping? This ship just really fucked up.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
And then if you say something, they done got so
five with it that if you say something, they can
they can make it look like you're a hater. Right,
they got so fire they' insulated the sucker shit in
this industry, man, one than to where they can, damn it,
do anything. And if you come out and say, yo,
he owe me fifty grand by their deal, he hating
on such and such.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
You know what I'm saying. Like now I'm telling y'all
like he told me this.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
We person with a bigger influence go win nine times
out of team. That's what's fucked up wrong That ad
is wrong too. Person with the biggest influence go win. Hey, man,
that's why I just stayed. I stay out the way.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
There we got to man, I see you pushed up
by yourself man like Yeah, that's rare in this industry.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And I got that big song with Dolf too.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, let's talk about Dolph Manah, that's.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
R P flipball, right, Let's talk about how you get
that song with him.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
He's joining them a DM.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
He was one of them too. He'll do that on.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
And it's like, that's why, like when people say the
energy shit real is real, Because when I first got out,
it was Dolf. You know, I been fucking with Gucci Man,
I'm talking about the new guy when I got out
was Dolph, Dolph Future on school the you know, I've

(33:17):
been fucking with Ross and all the time I talking
about the newer guys, Gates, Kevin Gates. You know, I
was already bumping me in jail. Like when I got out,
I got put onto these guys. Like I'm listening to them.
I'm like, damn, I relate to this shit. Oh like
I'm one of the ones. I'm just younger. You feel me.
I started early. I'm like, damn, so I'm bumping these niggas.
These niggas was motivating me to push the music out.

(33:39):
I don't even know these niggas from the campaign. You
feel me worked, that's why I'm watching these niggas. I'm like,
all right, because I'm from Miami, can't nobody give me
no game. I'm in a whole different lane. There's no
rapper from Miami that's doing what I'm doing or did
what I did. Like the facts, I'm talking from Rick
Ross all the way down. I'm really outside for real.
These niggas ain't going through all I have to right,

(34:01):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm not glorifying it, but I really did that. I'm
really that for real, Like even with the trick Daddy's Like,
niggas always had niggas backing them. I ain't have nobody
backing me. You know what I'm saying. I had support.
I ain't have nobody backing me.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's different.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm coming out the pockets, yes, lord, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
It's different though, support versus backing, right, that's a different thing.
Back in its financial and protection and write a lot
go with that.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right exactly. I ain't have that, Just like I pulled
up by myself. I started by myself. I had niggas,
I got niggas. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Support? Yeah, I know, I know some of your niggas.
I know you got me right.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You know what I'm saying, Like, so when when?

Speaker 1 (34:39):
When?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
So the respect I get is different, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So do you do you think that? Do you think
you should be further tho or do you think thousand?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Everybody, everybody, nigga of my fans. I go to Chicago
right now, I get off the plant. Somebody yell my
name out so people look at I got a hundred sixty,
one hundred and sixty some thousand followers. I go any
state of promise I can. I'm not on anything. It's
gonna be one person called my name any state in
the country.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
That's big.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I got hundreds of thousands of streams of Canada. I've
never been there. I don't. I never paid for a
stream of my life. You know what I'm saying. Everything organic,
That's how I know I could really be something huge
in this shit. With the right marketing. I never had
the right marketing.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
What is the right marketing? What does that look?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Everything? Digital marketing? Now? Everything you gotta do you know
who to hire?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Do you know where to go? Now?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I do now? I do, Like I had to figure
it out on my own. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Everybody was stuck on the old school way. I remember
when it I remember when the first flip. I was
talking to me. It was like the end of twenty twenty,
early twenty twenty one. I said, bro, I think this
shit just changed, because he was like, you know, he's
still like, just you hard, just keep going. One of

(35:48):
them gonna catch, and when it catch, all the tickets
won and you out of here. You know what I'm saying,
which is the truth. But when it it's I said, nah,
I think this should just switch. So what you mean
the algorithm shit they talking about, I don't even know
how to pronounce it. Then, you know what I'm saying.
I'm like, I like, I'm thinking it's fake. But I'm like,
something switch. It ain't because I'm looking at different artists
that's trying to come up. It's like a block. Were

(36:13):
never gonna see another Drake, another Kendrick, another little one.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I think it's over with.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
That's it's dead. We're never gonna so's it's never gonna
be a rapper to have a ten year, fifteen year
that's dead. Why you think that, like on top that's dead?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think I would.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I would argue that streaming is why Drake has had
that long woman around.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
No, when he first when he first came in, it
was still CDs a little bit. When he first came in,
it was just two thousand and nine people. I think
people still sucking CDs.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You bat two thousand and nine, ky don't got no
CD player? Yeah, it do.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, they started they started switching out later on though, Yeah,
in two thousand and nine. Yeah, I got two thousand and.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Eight when Drake was instrumental and a lot of them
streaming deals with Apple.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
And ship like that.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, later on, he he's one of them babies. He's
one of the baby where he just came in like
right right right, So when it changed, he was already
Locke when it changed, he's already up. Remember YouTube came
out two thousand nine.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
No eight seven, two thousand and six, because two thousand
and seven Soldier Boys shit.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Was on there.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Nah, No, I wasn't. It was in two thousand and six.
It was like two thousand and eight, two thousand nine.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Two thousand and seven Soldier board was on now m.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, two thousand seven, that's when social bub blew up.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, but he was on He was on YouTube two
thousand and five for launched on February fourteen.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, oh shit, you're right, Fedul fourteen, two thousand five.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
A lot of a lot of the old a lot
of old videos that came out a long time ago.
They started two thousand and nine. That's why I figured.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
That, Yeah, it's no.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Five so like if because what happened was YouTube was
like you're saying that, there was a flip happening, and
the record labels didn't respect it, so they they it
took them four five six years before they.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Started to upload to YouTube. Right.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
It was people like sold your Boy like online, while
you would go on have to download.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Music like it was.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
This ecosystem wasn't respected by the business yet. So that's
why you don't see a lot of those older interviews.
They were still traditional using bt MTV shit like that.
Now niggas that go on YouTube and if they can
get a million views, two million views, they're moving like
that that song is actually moving. But yeah, two thousand
and seven was Soldier Boy, Okay, So yeah, but I

(38:28):
would argue that Drake has had the long run that
he has had because of streaming because it opens up
the dollar amount that your customer can give you. Right,
you'll burn out your customer. After they buy this album
two or three times, you may can get forty dollars
from each person. That's if they love you, like Michael Jackson,

(38:49):
somebody like that. They've done bought that same Thriller album
four or five different times.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Right, you might.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Get fifteen dollars a piece for that. But now with streaming,
if they continue to listen to it for thirty years,
you continue to make money off of it. And so
those numbers keep you at the top of that algorithm.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's only if you don't buy it.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
If you buy it, yeah, but nobody down there. If
you download it, yeah, but people not buying it the
whole the whole trick was to make.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Because when you're on a plane, you can't listen to
it unless you unless you download them buy it.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Or unless you now that's that's there's an audience to
buy it. But Apple and them, Apple, Spotify and these
streaming platforms has put an extraordinary amount of money in
changing the behavior of the music listener.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I don't like it. I'd rather go back to the
old way. Right, you get a million streams that ain't
no money, bro, But if you get a million people
to buy your song, you out of here. Yes, you
get what I'm saying, Like a million streams equivalent to
like with three four thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Come on that, right, that ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
That's insane, bro, You got a million people listen to
your ship. A million fucking people is a lot of
fucking people. Bro, super you're supposed to be rich S's
off to million people. So if a million people buy
your songs just like back, then you automatically platinum, right
it take now, will take you one hundred million, one
hundred and fifty million streams to go platinum. One hundred
and fifty million people got to listen to much it

(40:13):
to go platinum before only a million people had to
go buy my shit or.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
A million people do one hundred times? See that's diamond. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
The other well, no, I'm saying, a million people listening
to it one hundred times can still give you one
hundred million versus one hundred million people listening to it.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
So that's what they're counting on.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
They're counting on million people ten times. Oh a million people. Yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
You see what I'm saying see that's what they counting on.
They counting on that, they're not locking it up. So
a million people spending ten dollars, you're gonna get rich.
And I agree that's the business model that rappers should
want to do. But the problem is is they're up
against these mega corporations.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
They're spending all.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Their money to change the behavior of the music listener
and make them stream because they got deals with the
lay and they get paid. You see what I'm saying.
So they it's you fighting. It's you're fighting against the
machine when you're doing that, which for people like you,
I say do that because that's what you gotta do.
For people like Russe LARUSSEO, all these people do that shit.

(41:13):
I just interview Larussell, like hell, he has a situation
where his fans can kind of do like a crowdfunding
of his music where they own percentages of it by
investing in it, and he'll accept the deal, but he
don't tell you a number, so he this is him
testing his fans.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
You don't know who's looking at you, bro.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
It could be a billion dollar nigga that don't got
no connections in the rap world that love your shit,
that'll buy that motherfucker for fifty grand. So he'll put
it out and just say give what you can or
send me an offer and you'll get an email back
of now at this time, won't do that. Oh yeah,
we'll entertain that offer. So he opens it up. You

(41:55):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Sometimes you gotta flirt with your audience to see what's
in there, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, it's gotta see what's in there because you don't
know who looking. You can have motherfucker from the Middle East.
Like then, people in Saudi that like boxing is putting
all their money in boxing.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
They don't really speak English and all of that. They
don't give a damn about niggas like that. They love
to fight though, yeah, right, and so they might.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
They are the people putting mega fights together that nobody
else can get because the money in boxing. They'll come
and just get Hey, what you want twenty million, Come on, man, let's.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Get it done.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
They don't even blink twice at it because they got
they kind of money. It's the same with your customer.
People that's listening. You don't know. You know what I'm saying,
You gotta fuck with it to see, but nah, I
think I think Drake has had that kind of run
because of streaming.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Man, I don't know. You think you think you think
that there'll never be another huge.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Artist that's on top for ten years fifty dollars dead.
Notice why everybody, everybody that came out because they overst
they fucked the game up, like they overset it. They
oversaturated sh like I don't even know how to explain it.
They just they know what they did. They fucked it up.
Now you a dope ass artist after three months, four months,

(43:10):
you don't want to hear no more. They oversaturate them
like you get annoying, you know what I'm saying. Plus,
I ain't gonna lot music not to say no more either though,
what you mean like the quality of the type of
music everything rushed? Yeah, nobody released before you, nigga. Majority
of the songs people coming out with now would never

(43:31):
make the cut. They be like, oh, yeah, this's a mixtape,
put this on that PIF live mixtapes. Yeah, we ain't
putting this out right, but now we got the freedom
to put that shit out, which made it easier. It
made it easier, but it's now like really Foriferal there's
still an underground just because we put the albums out.
It's still underground because it didn't take off yet.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, now for show, it's still an underground scene. It's
just it's in streaming. And I think that's who hurt
the most. The underground people hurt the most with streaming
because the underground made millionaires out of master p and
and some of these people that went out the Trump
even cash money. You can see fifty thousand copies and
really see some paper, right, you know what I'm saying Now,

(44:15):
if you got fifty thousand streams, it ain't doing nothing,
nothing at all. Yeah, And that's what you're saying. But
like I was telling you, is that with podcasts, we
get paid different on our million because of the length
of the actual.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Content the content.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, so the content a hour long, you get much
more ads in that.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Then then for three.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Or four minutes, people always want to listen to a
good conversation, Yeah, they love it. Think for artists, think
about how hard it is from start from nothing to
get fifty thousand people listening to you. Exactly, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
It ain't worth.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Nothing, worth nothing, That's what I'm trying to take you.
But then they may say, well, aniga a nigga back
in c D days, a nigga. All he gotta get.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Is his hood. You can see good, he can see something. Yeah,
he good and change you know what.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
But I think with doing ourselves with disservice by looking
at it like fifty thousand streams represents fifty thousand people,
because it doesn't. Fifty thousand streams can represent a multitude
of things. It can represent ten thousand people listening five times.
It can represent it's on this workout playlist and it's

(45:24):
a passive listen something. They call it passive listen because
they don't really even know what it is. They're just
working out. It's on a playlist. Those are different than
actual fans that are actually by merch that actually are
tapped in with you, that fuck with you. Those are
the people you got to identified. The job is to
always serve everybody. Serve your viewers, your listeners, your fans.

(45:47):
Out of those three, identify your customer, then serve your
customer at a high level, but at the same time
still be serving everybody. That's how you scale rap content.
Sing inny of that shit you know what I'm saying.
You're looking for your customers, even though because everybody looking
ain't a customer. Everybody looking ain't gonna buy a shirt,

(46:08):
ain't gonna come to a show.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
They just a fan. They watching, they viewing, they may
be listening.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
How do I activate them or how do I locate
the people that's actually gonna buy a ticket?

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:20):

Speaker 3 (46:20):
And so it's shipped like that that people don't understand
that they gotta work on their music, you know, and
content world.

Speaker 1 (46:27):

Speaker 2 (46:28):
They say it's easier now, it's harder now to.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
What get on?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Why you think that? I don't think it's hard to
get clout now because I'm starting. I'm starting now. It
ain't hard to get cloud. You gotta do some dumb
ass ship. But I'm starting. I'm starting to. I feel
like I feel like ship. Even with the streams. I
feel like if I listen to it ten times and
it ain't gonna be ten to ten streams, it's not
gonna count a ten streams, you know. So I don't

(46:55):
feel like.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Why not ship?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
That was the case. I let my phones go all day.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
That's why they streaming form. They doing that. Motherfucker's doing that.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I don't know. I don't know how that. I think
matter fact, I think where streaming from. They stopped that
ship where you can just keep streaming this shit. I
think they stopped them.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I think it's never I think it's per device.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Could never stop it. It's per account.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
So the count per account, Yeah, per account, and they
give away premium accounts to inflate their numbers.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
See, so they got a hand in it. You could
never stop it.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
They may stop it being so aggressive. Where you what,
some unknown nigga got six million streams? Right, they may
flag his ship down, But there's a recipe.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
That you can do to get that shit moving.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
You dig what I'm saying. They can't stop it this
tech war bro. You know what I'm saying. Like every
time you every time a company, there's always hackers, and
there's always defense to the hacking. You know what I'm saying,
But they always gonna it's catting mounts. We're gonna hack it,
then they gonna change something. We're gonna hack it, then
they're gonna change something. It's just you know what I'm saying.
That's what that's the same with the streaming farm. Shit

(48:02):
is like bro I see on TikTok sometimes where motherfucker
got a house with just phones just streaming music, like
not even a house a warehouse with some shit like
this with islands of phone this shit on TikTok right now,
Nick can see this.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
You see what I'm saying, like this ain't no. This
is working.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
And the reason it's working and the reason it doesn't
work on Apple.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
See here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
It doesn't work on Apple because they're all paid. You
can't listen to Apple free. That's how that's the reason
why Spotify shit is working is because they're giving away
a lot of premium free sign up, get free, ninety
d eight sign up.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
All you need is an email for that. And they're
doing that so they can.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Go to their stock people and say we got this
minute subscribers. So they're not gonna stop doing that side
of it. It inflates the numbers, make it look like
more people are subscribed than actually are.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You see what I'm saying. So they're never gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
So them giving away those premium accounts is the reason why.
That's the loophole that they got right now. But again
once they pass that, it'll be something else.

Speaker 1 (49:16):

Speaker 3 (49:17):
But if you think you so, you don't think you
don't Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you though, it can be that.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I know it was one of them.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Apple.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
You can't listen to a free They don't even want
you over here. If you ain't got no ten dollars money,
you're not over right.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
And that should be way more than ten dollars a
month your Apple shit crazy man, I wake up and
that's twenty dollars here, thirty dollars there, fun God damn
every two weeks, every week. I'm not listening to this
shit like that. I ain't downloading thathing.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
And it ain't just that. What they also do is
it's like they.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Running some kind of scheme or scam where it's like
your phone will fill up with data and then you
gotta buy data from them to to just have your.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Apps on your phone.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
It's like something going on. That's why you see all
them charges. At least me, I see charges for data
I don't have to I mean, not data, but storage
storage I done had to buy. I see charges for
my Apple Music, Apple TV, sit just and they all separate.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
That's what I don't like. Yeah, that's what made me
think they scam it. It's like it's separate.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
She look what they're doing the new iPhones.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
You gotta buy charger, you gotta buy a charge to
the new i'n buy a charger.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
It don't coming no charger.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I didn't know that crazy. Yeah, I didn't know that. Whooping,
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I think they said they made a couple of billion
dollars just all the charges a.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Loon Yeah that see, it's another source of revenue. They
call it a line item. They put another line on eating.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
What I remember back in the day, when what do
you think about rappers who come to Miami and then
act like they run Miami?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
H yeah, references that act like I mean, you know,
sometimes they just be they they start tapping in with
certain people and think, oh, because I'm with this person,
and they on what they on? Oh yeah, we it's
gold time. I'm untouchable. Nah, Miami ain't built like that, bro,

(51:22):
Miami don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Got politics and I ain't got politics like that.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
No, Miami got politics. Everybody for self. Yeah, you could
have one hundred bodies, I got one. I don't give
a funk. I'm gonna treat you like you got my one.
I don't. I won't give a fuck like if you
if you that type of nigga. You know what I'm saying.
Nigga have a thousand bodies. That shouldn't mean nothing to me. Bro,
All it take is one bullet to kill you. That's
how I see it. I don't give a fuck what
you done did. If I got the ups one, You're

(51:46):
gonna take you out. I won't give no fuck. You
know what I'm saying, right, that's the Miami mentality, though,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna be real
to can't nobody run Miami. I'm saying it on camera
like this is this is stuff people from Miami. No
nobody can run Miami. You can't come out and say
I run Miami. No you did, right?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
It's rap.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, nobody run Miami. Nobody. Yeah, It's always been
like that. Your open field.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You you stay over there. I'm still over here. You
respect me, I'll saying you, well, clap it up. Cool? No,
I don't know you could be the toughest nigga. You
nobody run Miami?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
It just built like that. It's been like that forever
since I've been born.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah you feel me? Yeah? Do you uh? You respect
Trick Daddy? And then what's your relationship with Trick there?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I ain't got no relationship with him.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
And he from Miami?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, from Miami.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Why you don't have a relationship with Trick?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Them nigga's different, brouh. They don't really like they fuck
with who they fuck with. They don't really, I mean,
I don't them. Niggas ain't really like trying to put
young niggas on. You know what I'm saying. He put
Iceberg on? Who is that Iceberg? He he from? He
from Miami. He was at one point in time, he
was that like round two thousand and eight two nine

(52:51):
on a down, Yeah he was. He was like the
little Wayne in Miami. He had this ship popping.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Feel me shout out the bird.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
But I ain't got no relationship with him me. You know,
I try to holler at him before, try to pay
him for a feature, but he ain't want to do it.
He ain't barely let me tell him what I wanted.
He just like he just pointed to his manager.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Yeah, well I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I ain't like, bro.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
From Miami, don't do that to me.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, and I and I'm you see how I look.
But when he did that, I just I ain't even
carry on with it. I an't go to the manager,
walked off.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I was like, that's an industry shit.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
I'll be that's me, swallow my pride. I don't really
do shit like that, you feel, but I'll be seeing
a bigger picture, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
But you might have had to talk to yourself twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
To even do that, right, and people had to tell
me just do it. I don't like, but that's the
Miami and me. It took me to live somewhere else
to get me, for me to get out there, to
get out of that ship and to notice that I
was fucked up because and why you don't the last
person that took off from Miami was Rick ross Over
besides the city girls. But it took a nigga from

(53:58):
out of town to living up right. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. Nobody from Miami, just like with me.
Me took a nigga from out of town, right. I
ain't no overnight nigga. I ain't no. I really had
my section buzzn't right, you feel me like niggas fuck
with me down there hard?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
You feel me?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I got, I got more respect than these niggas in
the streets.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, for that's what I mean. But damn though, so so.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Trick is tricks trick, I mean because trick legacy is
something that people think is.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
He talked a lot of.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Thub ship and right right, you know street ship. So
I just don't understand why he wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah, niggas grow U niggas grew up listening because you're
from you, from the creeby, from Miami. But like me,
me seeing what it what it is, I don't respect it.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Do he got any respect in the street?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I mean yeah, probably put his people, but like for
the young niggas.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Now right, they don't gets fucked up. They ain't lifting
nobody up though they're not. What about Ross?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Ross got people for Ross more. But Ross came with
a different You feel me, niggas, niggas, I've been like
since Ross came out, I was the ship he was talking.
I relate to it more like he was letting me know,
like you could be a boss. You know what I'm saying,
Like I like that type of ship like you feel
me like from the beginning, I was at the every
Damn Hustling video shoot. I'm a young nigga, like, oh

(55:20):
you was there, Yeah, I'm there at the tree Market
damn Yeah, before the video show. I just see Ross.
He riding around probably four five magnums. He got the
Booby boy shirt on. There was I'm trapping out of
care City. I'm you know, I got a bomb sack
on me like you feel fourteen like you feel me
like to ship the niggas. That's when every day in
hustle is coming out of ship like that. But yeah, no,

(55:40):
he you know, he came out different.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
He cool, but trick trick, ain't done nothing, trick game
talking about nothing. Nah, Ross gave me a verse. Oh
you gotta so.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I sent the Sam sneak just very next day.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Shout out the Ross for that love.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
I got numbers.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Who else? Who else? Do the streets ever say shit
about that sea old shit or they just let it die.

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