Loon Breaks Down Playboi Carti’s Album Sales Scam, Lil Baby’s APD Setup & Joe Budden’s Trade Talks!

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(02:05):
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I just think it it's understated what I've contributed I

(02:29):
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(02:52):
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(03:14):
want to talk to you guys today about Playboy CARDI
for those who do not know, Playboy Card had just
dropped an album called IM Music that is projected to
sell two hundred and and as of right now, people
are saying that number should have a bump here soon,
and I want to get into some of the business
surrounding that number one number two. I remember talking to

(03:39):
Brandon Marshall, because if you don't know, Brandon Marshall has
im athlete.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I remember vividly.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Having a conversation with him saying, Yo, you gotta do
IM music.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I am this, I am not I.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Just love that brand. Like this was in two thousand
and what twenty two, I think, twenty three, whatever it
was twenty two, I think, But I was like, bro,
that I AM thing. It's a very powerful brand. And
the reason I relate to the I am theme is because.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I grew up listening to YO Got It.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So for those of you that come from the South,
in particular from Tennessee, like I come from, you, remember
YO Got It?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Ad Lib used to be I Am. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
When he switched his hustle from dope boater, Now I
need that next level check he starts saying I am.
He started wheeling it in the unif I am, He'll
be talking about some money in the chorus and in
the background, I am right. So I come from here
and that I am. And then when me and B
Marshall got cool and to see him doing IM Athlete

(04:49):
and how it was thriving, I said, yo, Bro, I
AM music. He was already doing I Nascar, so he
probably thought about the in music as well.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
But that really crossed my mind. But nonetheless, Playboy CARDI
dropped this album. I really want to talk to y'all
today about a couple of different things. Number one, the
business behind.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
The projected two hundred that they're saying that he will sell.
Number one. Congratulations to Playboy CARDI. That is a lot
of records that speaks to your influence, your fan base.
Double salute the Swamp is though. Swamp just stopped me

(05:38):
and per and told me, Yo, anything you need in anywhere.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I met you planning and I said, man, I got
love for you, boy boy. I got love for you boy,
just even just for coming it.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Because you know me, man, I'm still a street dude
that comes from nothing. So I still play the back,
I still play the cut. I still by myself, just shot,
and I'm trying to play it low because I ain't
assuming everybody know me, you know. And Bro came up
to me and said a few things to me and
told me a couple of episodes, told me certain things

(06:11):
I said in the episode, and that's what I speak
when I speak to these companies. I be trying to
telling my fan base. It's different. The people that listen
to me, it is different. So even if you see
Fitty views on something, it's a different fitted than evening.
Number one is organic fitted and then the fifty is

(06:33):
the kind of people that is really movers and shakers.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's the highest level of thinkers.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You get what I'm saying, interested in developing and just
real shit, real talk.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
But salute the.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Swamp is Oh I I cut that Playboy cardis shit on, man?
And if I'm being one hundred percent honest with y'all, man,
I didn't like it. When I first cut it off,
I was like, Yo, what then what they doing? Is

(07:08):
this the music that everybody telling me that's supposed to
be this like.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Monumental music.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I said, Loon, don't be the old So I listened
some more, and I said, it's a couple of records
on here that I like, like like a bunch of
the albums that come out from the people that I
do enjoy.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's records on there that I enjoyed. So at first.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I asked myself, Loan, why do you have that adverse
reaction to his music? And I figured it out it's
this certain style that he got that it's foreign to me.
And I think because I don't get that style, it's
like what I can't find way yet? You know, because
me quiet has kept I know music, They didn't know

(07:57):
that it was up there, puncaut.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I ain't even got into that side of my life yet.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I ain't even told y'all what I should be telling
y'all what anybody else in my position will be telling
y'all about my background with music, and that ain't and
this ain't no low level shit. This is high level shit.
But anyway, I'm looking way you going with it?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Whey yet with it?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know when you see me, like when you see
me bouncing in a nick rapping, it's me. I'm trying
to see where he at, what pocket is, and I'm
you able.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
To catch him wherever? Yet whatever pocket, I'm able to
catch it.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
And card come on and I'm just like what And
I'm just like I can't catch him.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I just can't catch him.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Running from me on this month. I can't catch him
where the fuck going? But when he chooses them those
other tracks, those traditional tracks that I think my.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Ears used to, I said, oh, I see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And also some of those tracks that are I guess
I would classify as kind of rage rage music, almost
like some rage music, but he putting trap element in
it because he's talking trap shit on rage kind of beasts.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I think it probably.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Works great in those arenas, in stadiums or whatever kind
of tours that he plans on doing. So I understand
that a lot of it is performative music, but.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I'm a production buff, like.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I need them beats to be even if they're different
kind of beasts. I need you to find it in
the beat, though. I need you to find that silver
line and there's a sweet spot in the beat. Matter
of fact, there's a bunch of sweet spots in the beat.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
But I need you to find one of them. So
when I catch you in it, I said, oh, he
found the sweet spot. He found something in their beat.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like sometimes Kanye choose something some of these unorthodox beats,
and then when he come on rapping, you'll be like, oh, okay,
he found the little bop in and you can tell
that it didn't start that way. He stripped it down.
I'm not sure if Playboy Cardi was doing that. But again,
as I listened back to the album, I say, yo,

(10:20):
he got a few joints on there. Salutor swamp Iszo
Salutor Cardi. You're selling a lot of records, you got
a big fan base. Again, I'm still interested in wild
these streamer dude stayed up. When I know these dudes
is booge and they don't even really look at rappers
with any.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Kind of respect.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Within an hour, a little baby dropping. Casanett said that
he didn't like it, but he stayed up four five
in the morning waiting on Cardy to drop. So I'm
interested in knowing what the motivation behind those kinds of
things are. I still haven't came with a conclusion. The
jury is still out on that, but I'm looking. I'm

(11:00):
looking into a nigga. I'm gonna show.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Up Nick Brown.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I'm trying to figure out what's going and who cutting
the check and where they at and how much they paying,
what is they doing?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And because.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Hold on, before we even get to the streamers that
stayed up a countless amount of time waiting on Cardi
to drop his album, we got some other things to discuss.
For people who do not even understand what I'm speaking
about that, let me put some framework down and help
you understand exactly what I mean, because some people don't

(11:35):
know what streamers are, what they're doing. Playboy Cardi had
announced that he was gonna drop his album on Friday
at twelve o'clock, so there was about ten different high
power streamers that were on stream waiting for him to drop,
to do a watch party or a listen party, which

(11:56):
this is normal activity for streamers and for us, like
on both sides, for content creators. Really there's a reaction
side to this business. Now, where he drops, we come out,
we talk about it, we listen to it, we listen
with our fans. I'm still interested in knowing the conversion
rate on some of these quote unquote viewers and listeners

(12:19):
that are in some of these chats. And this is
no disrespect.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I got a.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Lot of love for streamers. Now this is bigger than y'all.
This ain't got nothing to do with y'all. I'm talking
over y'all head when I talk right, and I don't
mean that disrespectfully. I'm saying I'm speaking about the business side,
and I'm talking to Twitch and these other avenues that's
utilizing y'all to make a bigger point to some of
these ad companies. But so these guys stayed up. CARDI

(12:47):
didn't drop at twelve, He didn't drop it at one,
he didn't drop it at two. He stopped answering the phone.
Dudes was just up it was five in the morning,
six in the morning, and it finally dropped, I think
around seven or something like that. Dudes had went it,
fell asleep, they had they outing sitting there. It was
just a crazy scenario, and I think it's just interesting

(13:09):
that all of those guys.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Stayed up like that.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
They just come off a bit too bougie to do that.
But let's get into the business side of this. Right
when we deal with Cardi, we hear some of those streamers,
and this is why it's important to speak about those streamers.
We hear some of those guys now reporting that, hey,
for some reason, Billboard hasn't counted a bunch of the
streams that should be contributed to Carty's first week sales

(13:37):
number one. I believe that the people who were involved
in what I CAUs Carti's marketing plan. It's gonna be
hard for someone to make me believe that all those
streamers wasn't a part of some sort of marketing plan
that Cardi or the label had put together. Not doubting
that there's a genuine relationship, but it felt too orchestrated.

(14:00):
Someone either gonna have to show me some proof or
have to go with the fact that I'm one of
the more brilliant men of walking this planet. And I
know a fish when I see a fish.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
He hear me.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
So let's talk about the official sales of the album
Iron Music and how music is calculated now according to Billboard.
And again there's a conversation to be had that's above board.
So it's above this level of conversation. It's one to
be had as to why the numbers keep changing, why

(14:33):
they keep changing the standards and the rules, and what's
the inspiration and motivation to continue to tweak the data
for people who are displeased with Iron Music's numbers, which
I don't see why they will be displeased.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I think because of all of.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
The quote unquote star power from streamers to features and
all of the hypes around in cardial aspect of a
larger number.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
For me, that was a great number. That was a
great push.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
And also this album will continue to grow on whoever
this album is for. But if we want to pick
at the numbers and talk about the other side, then
you have to consider that it is thirty songs and
it did two fifty and if you got to calculate,
then you can divide. Then you can really come to

(15:22):
a different kind of outlook or have a different kind
of perception on the real consumption rate and the genuine
interaction with Cardi's music. Now, it's an impressive number that
Cardi gave you, but before we get to that, I

(15:43):
want you to know that official sales and numbers for
albums like Iron Music that calculator using the combination of
streaming data and actual album sales. So if you don't know,
it's including digital downloads for those that downloaded, and.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Also physical copies for example.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Streaming numbers are aggregated and then converted into album equivalent units,
so a certain number of streams equal one play. I'm
sure people have heard about Snoop Dogg going over to
the Homies podcast thing it's called Business Unfilled to in

(16:26):
which he said he had I think it was a
billion streams and he only got forty five k. So
again we're talking about streams converted into an album sell. Now,
digital sales and physical album shipments are tracked separately, and
I think this is where they're getting confused, or they
may be misrepresenting the data.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
But I think I want to bring some.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Clarity to what we're looking at So for Carti's first
week sales, although he may have an influx of people
that's buying bundles and merch, those numbers don't count towards
anything until they actually ship. Now, I don't know when
they put this rule in place, but just because people
have placed in order, they don't count. What they have

(17:10):
found is here's the trick, and this is what I mean.
This is high level business. And that's why I say
when I speak about this CARDI mem need to just
sit out and they can't get in their feelings. I'm
talking over their head. This to fight Drake and Kanye
and them talking about the game that the labels have
played far too often is order up a bunch of

(17:34):
that first week merch bundle boardshit, inflate the.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
First week sales, and then cancel the orders.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
So although they counted towards the Billboard first week sales,
those shits never got shipped out.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
They never counted toward anything.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
He drops another album and the last bundle still they shipped.
They caught only their loophole and that trick, so they
cut that out. Hey, when you ship it, that's when
we'll count it, So it no longer counts towards your
first week, you started to see a drastic drop in
first week sales, and it was partially due to some

(18:11):
of the new rules that they have in place, that
being one of them. In Carti's case, we got about
two hundred to three hundred units from streaming alone. Again,
it doesn't include the physical or the bundle purchase because.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It hasn't ship yet.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So for all of the streamers that are trying to
either manipulate the fans and make people think that Cardi's
being cheated, you're being disingenuous, and you also are tearing
down your credibility of your platform if you don't really
understand the rules that Billboard and some of these other
entities that actually counter the music are going and abiden buy.

(18:51):
There's parameters, there's boundaries, and they're trying to catch up
with tech, and this is again, this is the bigger fight.
They're trying to catch up with tech. This box involved,
there's tricks involved in Billboard and other people are catching
on to the inflation because they are actually paying for inflation.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You gotta remember this is a two party system.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
One person is inflating and one person is paying for
the inflation. So what happens is someone out there is
being paid for fake numbers, for fake influence, for fake involvement.
And so what you see is Billboard trying to crack
down on those instances when they say, hey, we understand,
we're gonna still do bundles, but they got to actually

(19:37):
ship before we count them, because they're looking that some
data that this person counceled two hundred bundles over the
last year. Man, we counted those sales, and they got
awards towards that, and they counted towards oh our double
A and it's just this whole system that they're inflating, right,
So the first fight is to get Spotify legitimate eyes

(20:00):
Apple legitimized, the stream legitimized. Once you get it legitimized,
then you whoop them by trying to.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, you get one. I'm going with it.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
In Cardi's case, again, it's two hundred and fifty to
three hundred units. That's just from streaming. So I just
explained to y'all that they don't count it to you
ship it. That is literally a standard practice according to
my research. So if I'm being real and I'm keeping
my intellectual honesty about the card situation, and my expertise
in the music business that they don't know that I

(20:32):
truly have billboard rules only count physicals or bundle cells
when they actually been delivered to the customers. And so
I saw Cardi come out publicly say that it's odd
that bundles aren't included. This is not a special treatment
of his release. This is just how the system is
set up. You get those bundles delivered, you get those

(20:54):
cells counting. Far too many times people are doing tricks.
And so the conundrum that he finds himself in is
that the pre release sales probably look like four hundred,
but physical sales can only boost those numbers once the
merchandise ships, and so those bundles don't count unless it's ships.

(21:14):
And so I understand Cardi's frustration because again, someone's looking
at some numbers and saying, I see five hundred people
involved in this. Our numbers say we did four hundred.
Someone's literally looking at some numbers and that's what the
data is telling them. And so the frustration is understandable
from a marketing standpoint, since its bundles might eventually push

(21:37):
the totals even higher, but it's not a deviation from
the industry standards, and I think it's unfair for people
to even position it that way. Playboard Cardi and his
new album Iron Music has not faced any unfair treatment
as it pertains to Billboard, the charts, or any of
Billboard's method and how they separate digital and physical sales

(22:01):
until shipment occurs. Rappers also have to understand then they
are dealing with evolving business practices and this is in
real time. And this is what I mean about. Oh,
Billboard said, oh they got us with that. A couple
of artists got us. See, because what will happen is
Billboard don't even have to do the research. They just

(22:21):
go off the trends. Right, So I remember how this
potentially may have happened. You had a scenario where Nicki
Minaj was receiving some backlash because her sales didn't come
out as high as some other artists or maybe as
projected as how as maybe she projected or reported. And

(22:45):
so she came out and said, well, that ain't music.
They selling t shirts, they selling shoes, they selling all
kinds of other shit. They're selling quote unquote bundles. And
so what happens is is each rapper that has a
team in each label investigates other labels. So when they
see it working for Travis Scott, even if bill Board

(23:05):
ain't red flag because if I'm a label, it ain't
my job to red flag it.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's working for them and it's driving revenue.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
We don't want to tell bill Board to say they cheating,
Look how they cheating. We want to copy what they
doing until Billboard stop it. And so what happens is
if Nicki Minaj's business people are smart enough, they see
what Travis Scott doing and they complain the first time,
but that second time they come out with the same
strategy that Travis Scott was doing. Because what you may

(23:35):
uncover when you look into it is what I uncovered
that you got guys like nav and other individuals that
were utilizing bundles and a lot of the shit NBA
Young Boy won as well. A lot of the shit
maybe never shipped or it took a very long time
to ship, or this collaboration with this individual never really shipped.
Then you gotta refund, but it counted towards sales. So

(23:58):
they try to they try to get that from and
so they read the business of that and so as
the business adapts, new chapters and new technologies.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
We're seeing innovative approaches to album.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Selves and if you don't and if you don't know
how to navigate around it, you'll be left in the dirt.
And that goes for marketing, media and music, the three m's,
it all goes together. We see everybody do the one
move with everybody trying to as like the layup that
ain't really innovation no more, like you really got to

(24:31):
get in your think tank and come up with some innovation,
right that ain't even innovation no more, just a bundle
thing the first week sell bundle.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's like the layup in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
That's like some real simple business practice that ain't nobody
that's getting in there and saying, how can we activate
our fans?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
You dig what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
How do we take advantage of our fans and activate
them on week one? Like the president? You ever see
how Trump or the presidential campaign years of that last
week before people actually gotta go vote.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
How do we kick into that gear.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
These are the conversations you gotta have, and you gotta
mimic the people that's been productive. You gotta mimic the
industries that's been productive. No one is giving information. Game
is to be peeped. Game is to be peeped, homie.
If I'm being honest, though, there's a larger conversation that

(25:26):
the entire streaming numbers is so confusing because it allows
them to be deceptive. There's some very simple math you
can put on things, right. One stream is one cent.
Let me know what, Give me something that is worth

(25:47):
one cent. Give us some whole numbers.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
To work with.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
See what they understand is the zero point point point
one zero point from five to five five. Ooh, that's
a hall. That's a hall one right there. That's the
first throw off. You got to get one eyed people,
because only eye people understand it. Again, talking about this
on Patreon, how they even if you happen to strike

(26:12):
gold in the industry, you're still gonna have to hire
some people in the industry because the industry has a language,
it has practices, It has avenues and crevices and cuts
that only those that's been in those alley ways know
where they are.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
So they have certain techniques that if you come from
outside the industry, you won't even know.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's being ran on you.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
You ain't got a clue and your potting of this
coming there with you. He don't got a clue. I
on'tka if you come from Harvard. This music business game
they running, and if you check it too long, they
don't even want to do the deal never mind. Yeah, nah,
you got a smart nick which you never mind. It
ain't worth our time. And so they break the numbers

(26:53):
down in a way where only the people that's been
in those high level meetings really know how to even
look at the numbers and get the number that all
of us understand. Everyone else outside of those buildings and
rooms are being told what number streams are worth. And
that's a conversation to be had there. Me and l

(27:15):
Russell had a great conversation about that. Go check that
out if you have not checked that out. While I
am having a conversation about Cardi selling two hundred, then
the rules being the rules and him not being treated
unfairly as it pertains to the business practices a billboard.
I also want to speak to the point that I
think fifty dreams for one play is where, so let's go,

(27:41):
let's go for that standard that it was. I think
it may have went up some at this point, but
the standard was thirty five four a million plays. I
think if you can get a million plays, it's worth
way more than thirty five And they know that. And
I think for anyone that don't understand that, it's an
issue that now is we don't understand how to get

(28:01):
more than thirty five four, because if you did, then
you would, so you operate in their system, and in
their system, they tell you what it's worth.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Nobody knows what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
So I do think that even when you see somebody
selling one hundred and fifty on its first week, and shit,
I think they're undervalue. When you see somebody selling forty
first week, twenty first week, they're undervalue. Like fifty real
views is a hell of a thing. Most arenas hold
twenty thousands. So if you drop something every day and

(28:34):
it's getting seventy five real views, like real views, I
ain't talking about like I'm saying real organic views, it's
a different thing happening now. I think some new metrics
need to be put in place, the stream and the view. Okay,
y'all got that. We need to come up with one
and make them respect it. Whatever we call that metric.

(28:57):
We need to come up with a new metric, because
you got to remember when the wild wild West of
technology as it pertains to entertainment.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
All Right, y'all got the stream, y'all got the view.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Now we're gonna take the Now we're gonna add another metric,
and we're gonna put a value on that metric, and
we're gonna help y'all understand what that metric is worth,
what we think is worth the way y'all are doing
the stream and the view, because they've already locked in
the stream and I view a it's worth this, and

(29:32):
we're trying to fight them with their terminology. It's gonna
be hard for you to go to Detroit and tell
them that a cold drink ain't a soda. I don't
give a damn if you is from the South. It's
a soda up here, it ain't a cold drink. So
it's gonna be hard for me to manipulate you with

(29:52):
the terminology or the tactics that you put in place.
What we gotta do is birth a new metric using
the same just birth of new metric. Once we do that,
that's the power for us. We need to do that,
but we need coordinated efforts because again, they can inflate

(30:12):
the numbers, and when they inflate the numbers, they can
use against you when they stop inflating the numbers, When
they stop, when they take they foot out the gas,
they can use that against you and make you think
that you are no longer as powerful as you was,
and you don't have the engagement that you may once had,
and it's no longer sustainable. There's a conversation to be

(30:32):
had about impact versus numbers. Traditional metrics clearly face challenges
with this new with this new tech. When you consider
the view and the stream being hijacked by the infrastructure.
We now need to come up with a metric because
of the evolving consumption habits. There has to be a

(30:54):
new metric that we can come up with, and we
don't let them define that metric. We define that metric
and the worth of that metric in this in this
formula that they have in place, we have to develop
new benchmarks in our contracts to speak to a new
metric that we put in place. That's what i'm That's
what i'm that's my argument to our culture. I also

(31:17):
think that's part of the formula is they've tricked people
to think the first week numbers is so important, and
this is in particular with rappers, right because we're talking
about Playboard card in this first week numbers scenario with Billboard.
But it's important to remember the early numbers are just
a piece of a bigger puzzle and as an initial

(31:40):
surge of your fans that's going to hear your new themes.
Cardi had a coordinated streaming sessions. The shit look impressive,
but it could be short term. And the reason I
say that again, this is bigger than Cardi. I question
that if casanid has three people are now and Lou

(32:04):
and b I think their name is, they may got
a hunted K and act got twenty thirty K and
this person got seven K and eight K and all
these people go listen to the music at the same time,
how is it not inflating the numbers in a way
where you can see it move in real time. And
again it's a disrespect to these young black creators. This

(32:26):
is Loan on the hunt to still figure out what
a stream is worth, what a view is worth, what
the algorithm is doing, what the analytics is, what the
date is worth. This is still me on the same
hunt from when I walked in this business. And so
all I'm saying is it is something isn't either connecting

(32:47):
or they're blocking something. Some either is it connecting or
they're blocking something, and they got a stronghold on it
on social media, on this platform as a whole. But
the music industry is at a crossroads. I think we
have to re examine how we deal with music. The

(33:07):
traditional metrics have to be reevaluated. We're not gonna be
able to take a stronghold on a view or the stream.
They have attached the industry standard and what I would
call a franchise tag on that terminology and contracts. We
have to now create a metric. That's how I'm signing
out of this podcast today. I thank everybody for watching.

(33:28):
Now let's get into the rest of the part because
we still talk about trade talks and all letting this part.
It's gonna be a long one. I salute everybody that's
rocking with us today it's up that podcast. Salute, welcome back,
Welcome back to it's up there podcast. I am your
active and attractive hosts, Big Loan a lot to talk

(33:52):
about today.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I want to get right to it. If you're not
subscribed to the Patreon. Come to the Patreon right now.
It's patron dot com. It's up there. Podcast.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Also listen to the podcast anyway you get podcasts presented
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Black Effects, Salute to all my sponsors. Salute to all
my fans. Salute to my listeners too. I know y'all
might thank I forget about y'all. Don't never forget about y'all.

(34:23):
Salute to y'all that is listening at work, that's doing
something in the business or in a cubicle, and this
is helping you get through your days. Salute to y'all. Man,
y'all make this community what it is. We are centralizing
behind the paywall, and you have to find your tribe.
This is not for everyone. This is not for every listener.

(34:44):
This is not for everyone that views a video or mind.
This is for other people that's involved in the tribe
in which we want to have these kind of conversations
on a daily basis. Iron sharp is iron right. We
do not need a whole bunch of yes men and
lap dogs, right.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Far too often when we look at a lot of
these podcasters, in particular the ones that have a little
bit of power. You start to see people conform and
they don't contribute anything but dick RD. And this may
be offensive, it may come off as harsh, brash language,
but it's important that I'm authentic with my audience when

(35:26):
I had these conversations. You have a lot of lap
dogs in this business and people that just want to
be down and soon I think we have to.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Have a very very very real.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Conversation about people's positions, how they got there, why they
still are able to sustain those positions, and what they
truly know, because I think when you get down into
the weeds of what these individuals truly know and what
they truly contribute and what's not really regurgitated.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
See, I'm one of the highest levels of it.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
And We're gonna get into that because we about to
speak about the Pard trade Talk conversation. But I'm one
of the highest levels in this game. And when I
say that, I mean wit against wit. I ain't talking
about how my voice sound, the inflection of my voice,
the vocabularity, the ability to do it by yourself, to
be producer, talent CEO, talent booker. Dig what I'm saying

(36:23):
like to be everything in all things at one time.
I'm not even speaking about that that to the side,
just wit for wit. I think in this business it's
understated what I've contributed, and it's people in these rooms
that know what I've contributed and have told me behind
closed doors how they feel about these things. And so

(36:43):
I'm concerned when they're in the arena they don't have
the nuts or have a pride to ego to insert
the facts in the conversation. We'll get to that lady
as well. We're not even gonna start there. But I
did want to kind of set the pressing in and

(37:04):
let the people know how I'm feeling, what I'm thinking,
and what the vibe is, because you know, I sit
in the back cave often, and when I sit in
the back cave, I need people to know I'm not
just sitting there looking at pictures and posting pictures, and
I'm actually trying to put together a plan that had
this show the number one show in the world. And

(37:25):
I understand it's gonna cost money, it's gonna cost investment,
and I'm interested in investing just in the right places.
Before we get to the podcast, trade talk conversation and
you got a lot of people from the WCW that
have a certain feeling about Loan. They won't express those feelings,
I guess because they think maybe it'll go left. Maybe

(37:48):
I'm too gangster for them niggas to even come out
and say certain things which they don't understand. I'm truly
a scholar, you know what I'm saying. When you look
at me. This is what I call the old fashioned
sneak attack for guys like them that don't really understand.
You know, I made a way out of no way man,
and so the way people are being handled in their cities,

(38:12):
it has me highly concerned about the way they're speaking
to me. If they handle you like that, even in
the region, it's highly concerning that you have the balls
to say certain things when it pertains to Loan or
other small YouTube guys.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
You know, we just have a lot to talk about today.
Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
First though, I wasn't gonna speak about this because a
lot of times when I give my opinion, in particular
on Bro, you know, people know where I stand with
Bruh and how I feel about Bruh and what I'm
staying for when it comes to baby his crew and
whatever they got going on on that side, and so

(39:01):
I kind of wait till I want to speak to
him about certain things. But when it comes to this,
you know, I'm gonna have this conversation out in the
public because I think I can add to the algorithm
and the narrative and my perspective can render useful.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
To the viewing public. For those who do not know.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Within the last year, there was a video shoot that
little baby was at. Unfortunately, at this shoot that was
shots fire. The unfortunate news following those shots fied, well,
a couple of young men lives unfortunately will taken. I

(39:47):
want to play you a video from the scene up
that day and we'll come back with some commentary.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
Pay attention in we got a little baby shooting a
video around here. We don't know how we do it
at slepping Taco baby that he go, that he go,
y'all see him.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
He came to get here some tacos.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Baby.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Y'all better pull up cause you already know how he's
doing this snap of tacos baby. Pull up baby, Little
baby just pulled.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Up on us.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
You know we're doing it being around this month, so
y'all better try to get in where you're fitting? Where
at slapping tacos? Baby, the actress is in the bio.
If you don't know where we at, I don't even
know why you following me no more the baby. You
should already know where we at. Sing right there off
the cram.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
So for those of you listening, there's a young lady
that's promoting up business as a bunch of escalades are
pulling up. You got Tesla trucks and shout out the
baby and them them escalades one fifty piece. I just
grabbed one, but she's just promoting her business at this point.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Pay attention.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Who end this car?

Speaker 7 (41:01):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Straight? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:01):
Straight right right here? Oh that sh that's a miss stuff. Man?
Do you think Sam?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (41:15):
Then you say he's got captain?

Speaker 8 (41:32):
Man?

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Can of got hit man? Fuck?

Speaker 8 (41:38):
Who got captain? You've been up from across the street.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
I ain't even used that one.

Speaker 8 (42:00):
Nobody's saying you have anything to do? Money? Take what'll Sam?
Gotta clear it out? Stand across the street, please.

Speaker 7 (42:06):
Across the street.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Let me got say you're gonna take it out here,
y'all gotta clear out, Yatta clear out from here.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
As you see in that video shots rang out.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
There's a very unfortunate circumstance that take place.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Baby moving like a boss. You know, they got.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Bulletproofs, probably me and the two out there, and cars
pull up for a quick video shoot. Cameraman on deck,
production on deck, bodyguards on deck, doing everything in the
legal way, the way that the Americans tax paying citizens
able to move, you know, inside of the confines of

(42:51):
the law. And I know it gets interesting when you
think that because I come from a criminal background, but
now I got money. It's scattered police. Because I know
a few killers. You think I'm getting killings done right,
Because I know a few niggas that hustle, You think
I've got something to do with them hustling. No, I

(43:12):
just come from that background. My associates are the people
that I grew up with and I grew to love
throughout my journey. I couldn't help that I was playing
it in the ghetto and some of them niggas is
hell of five niggas, and they make it turn a
nigga to a dollar, a dollar to a ten, a
ten to a fifty, and a fifty to one hundred,
right or some of them dudes may got problems that

(43:35):
they feel like that the law ain't gonna be to handle,
and they rather go take care of themself, like some
of those people. We know because of what we come from,
that don't necessarily mean we contribute to the behavior. And
I hate that that's the way that is portrayed. I
always tell y'all that society will push you to cut
off the people that you grew up with. They'll literally

(43:58):
make it dangerous for you to still be attached to
the people you grew up with. I'm so fresh out
of it. I gotta detach. It's too dangerous. My guys
still knee deep in it. There's no way I can
be around. There's no way I can be pulling up
every day on the phone fucking around with it because they.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Pull me in. And now I got a problem.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I ain't had no being this with when God has
placed me on the path where I can see a
honey men, right, I'm looking at a hundred million. If
I can just keep this thing going and keep scaling
this thing up.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I see a whole hunter. So I gotta respect that.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And when I say respect that, it means I gotta
isolate myself from situations that have caused me resources that
I can be delegating to things that really matter. Yeah,
I can fight a murder charge right now. I can
make a bond right now for damn thear in there.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Mit.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
But it's that a smart way to use your money.
Hell now when you can put it in stocks. And
so at this video, shots rang out, people are hurt.
There's a lot happening. And so we're about to watch
a press conference from Fulton County in which they made
some allegations in this if you ask me, that are

(45:17):
truly unjustified, unsubstantiated, preposterous claims against a rapper, little baby
that has been a philanthropist in that town for I
don't know how long. But let's take a look at
the irrational behavior from Folden County. I want you guys
to understand, I'm the guy that just interviewed one of

(45:39):
the lead attorneys in the wie CeAl trial. I just
spoke to two of the head jurors in the wycal trial.
So I have a real sense as to what people
in Fulton County are feeling about the judicial system. The
practical nature that has to consistently be there when you're
dealing with cases that are of this magnitude.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
You're trying to jam.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
People up and put them in jail for years, take
them away from their family.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And these jurors are paying attention.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
One plus one is two, and so when I speak
with them, there's a strong sense of yo, man, we're
not done. Like, we're not just going for what the
police is saying. We're looking for the truth in these scenarios,
and if the rapper ends up on the wrong side
of the truth, they'll be held accountable. And that's all

(46:30):
you can truly ask for. But I think you're dealing
with an overreach. Let's pay attention to this press conference
and then we'll come back with some commentary.

Speaker 9 (46:37):
Investigation aspect of this Lamtt Friedman was allowed to be
a thirteen year old for twenty seven minutes before gang
violence ultimately took his life. Gang violence was orchestrated by adults,
adults in our city and cowardly acts. Cowardly acts of

(46:58):
an Atlanta Base rapper that decided to go over into
a rival gang stronghold and shoot a music video in
a place that he knew he should not have been,
and in the subsequent days we saw homicides and shootings
and ultimately the deaths of two children as a result

(47:20):
of his cowardly actions. And you know who you are,
and I tell you that this team will work relentlessly
to hold you and the persons that you are affiliated
with responsible for those actions.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
You know.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Before we address anything that he said, I just want
to say, Foldin County got some of the most bad
built officers on the force that I've ever seen. Right,
I'm been in the gym, so I'm looking at some
of them niggas, how they built. I'm saying what I'm
some of the most bad built officers. They don't really
want to give no squabble. And got a nigga that's
telling looking them in the eyes, I ain't going to jail. Yeah,

(47:55):
and I be in the gym, sucker, I ain't going
to jail them niggas that on a really them nigga
bag up, get somebody over here this yeah. Nah, them
niggas don't look like they ready for no squabble. But
set that to the side. The idea that law enforcement
would be corroborating some sort of band on a rapper

(48:19):
on the side of town. That's the first thing that
stuck out to me is that the idea that you
can have law enforcement come out in the press conference
and for in all intensive purposes, authenticate the fact that
there's a band in effect that needs to be respected.
That's to me, that's off that that's off the charts
to me just that much. It's off the charts to

(48:42):
me because if we're just dealing with the law. And
of course again I look like a street nigga, but
I'm a scholar. This a thousand milligrams of game.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I give you.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
This ain't that low level hanging street bullshit. These nigga
be kicking. So I'm telling you it's un fortunate to
see someone in a position of power come out and
say that a rapper is orchestrating some sort of violence
that took place. Folk County is stinking up the place.

(49:15):
And I think they don't know that we know that
all of this is arbitrary. They everyone that they go at.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
There seems to be some sort of incentive.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Come to find out, this gentleman has already been involved
in Hollywood and some other things, so he's interested in
probably getting a little cloud on his name. Shortly after this,
and we'll get into my take after we cover all
the ground. Shortly after this, Drew Feeling, which is little
Baby's attorney, spoke out on his behalf.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
They had a press release that was.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Released to the media before we moved to what Drew
Feeling said in response to it, I want you to
take a look at this video from the Atlanta Local News.
What a reference little babies involvement in some alleged murder
again unsubstantiated. These claims are baseless at best. Pay attention.

Speaker 10 (50:09):
Atlanta police now blamed the deaths are two Atlanta teens
last summer on a violent street gang in our community.
Good evening, Thanks so much for joining us for Fox
five News at five.

Speaker 11 (50:18):
I'm Tom Hanks, I'm Courtney Bryant. Just hours ago, APD
announced they now have charged seven people with the murders.
Fox Hoss Tyler Finger is live at Atlanta Police headquarters
to tell us what we're finding out.

Speaker 12 (50:30):
Tyler, Yeah, Courtney, Good evening to you. Investigators say two
thirteen year olds were innocent victims caught in a gang
retaliation shooting while celebrating a birthday.

Speaker 9 (50:43):
The overall famous case is grown men playing gangsterd.

Speaker 12 (50:49):
Atlanta police say these are the innocent faces of gang
violence in Atlanta. Two of them, thirteen year old boys,
Jacoby Davis and Lamonde Freeman, were killed at eleven year
old Dontavious David was wounded last July in a shooting
on Spark Street. APD says Freeman was killed on his
thirteenth birthday.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
Flamont Freeman was allowed to be a thirteen year old
for twenty seven minutes before gang violence ultimately took his life.

Speaker 12 (51:14):
During an afternoon news conference, investigators blamed the deadly shooting
on a local rapper. They said the attack was in
retaliation for the rapper entering a rival gang's territory to
film a music video.

Speaker 9 (51:25):
In subsequent days, we saw homicides and shootings and ultimately
the deaths of two children as a result of his
cowardly actions.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And you know who you are.

Speaker 12 (51:37):
Authorities say a high ranking member of the Goodfellow's gang
who was incarcerated, orchestrated the attack using a smuggled cell phone.
Following those instructions, the suspects opened fire and an apartment
complex where the three young teens were gathered to celebrate
Freeman's birthday. Police say they weren't the targets.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
These kids were innocent victims.

Speaker 9 (51:56):
So when we talk about the gang involvement, thirteen year
olds and this eleven year old, they didn't have a
game involvement.

Speaker 12 (52:03):
Who was arrested were identified as Keante Sanders, Richard Hollis,
Reginald Thomas, dakeify On Mobley, Marcus Crawford, Tradeon Crawford.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
And Ali Caldwell.

Speaker 12 (52:14):
The final two were arrested Tuesday. Police had some tough
talk for those responsible.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
Good Fella's criminal street Game being one of the most
hyper violent gangs in the city of Atlanta, and we
will pursue you relentlessly, relentlessly in making sure that we
keep this city shafe and suppressing violence.

Speaker 12 (52:33):
And the investigation continues. There is a fifty thousand dollars
reward for information about this case. We're live in downtown
Atlanta tonight, Tyler fingers fuckstive New good.

Speaker 10 (52:42):
To know police are finally getting some answers. Tyler, thanks.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
A couple of different tactics. I want people to pay
attention to number one. They didn't say his name, but
they alluded to the day where a shooting took place
at a video shoot in which he was the only
person in which altercation like this probably took place on
that day, So they tried to play some kind of
game in a legal loophole that we really didn't say

(53:08):
his name, but we know who you're speaking about. For me,
I think behind the scenes it says a lot.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Clearly they are.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Looking to put together some bullshit case and if anyone
is telling bro anything outside of that, they're mistaken. There's
some interest in them trying to figure something out that
probably isn't there. But we've seen them be over aggressive,
over zealous. We've seen them be belligerent, and I mean

(53:40):
I can go on and on, right, we've seen how
they handle some of these cases. Now, little baby Attorney
responds to all the sneak thish in and the clout
chasing that unfortunately the judicial system in Folton County has
been doing here for the last four or five years.

(54:01):
We've seen what Trump has even have to get involved
and shut down a couple of prosecutions and a couple
of things that he would call overreaching. I will be
interested to see how we can utilize some of this
power we've been giving Trump to see if we can
slow down some of the overreaching this happening in Folden

(54:22):
County pay attention to what his lawyer said. Little Baby
attorney puts police on blast. Rapper has nothing to do
with murders. Lawyers for Little Baby are firing back at
the Atlanta Police Department, claiming the rapper had absolutely nothing
to do with this year's gang related murders of two
teen boys.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Babies.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Attorneys Drew Finland and Marissa Goldberg issued a statement to
TMZ blasting APD for holding a Wednesday press conference in
which some police brass accused the hip hop star of
triggering the rap war during his twenty twenty four music
video shoot at the press sir. At the press conference,

(55:06):
police officials announced the rest of seven gang members allegedly
responsible for the two fatal shootings, with a third person
also wounded. APD Homicide Commander Ralph Woodfolk said Baby was
filming the video in the same area and he knew

(55:27):
he shouldn't have been there, calling it a cowardly act
and vowing to hold him accountable. They got a better video.
They have a better video on TMZ. I never saw
this one. Let's look, what.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
The fuck where you at?

Speaker 8 (56:07):
H H He's gone. You can put it up here.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Y'all, who the fuck with that?

Speaker 8 (56:12):
He I just sat right here and watching all the time.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
The real floor bruh, real floor bruh.

Speaker 8 (56:26):
The like they was shoot they own video in the
hole time they were plotting on the edge. Yah, he
shooting at Why get y'all as up.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I'm getting diwed like to tell you in the military,
you got black and man number will gone on.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
Man he shooting at nobody, So we gonna side that
wall woulda.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Stick though, when you getting the fuck out of the way.

Speaker 8 (57:01):
Thank you for always trying to get to set.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Some sting in a white car.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
God damn got down there and starts shooting back up
right down at them.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, they were in the white car. They stopped down
at the cut right there and let go let loop.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
Huh. Yeah, man, you're coming back with your fro knock
or two every down, know.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
What little babies.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Attorney Drew Feeling releases a statement in response to the
Atlanta Police Department claiming that the rappers cowardly acts cost
two teenagers to be murdered. Now, Drew Feeling and his partner,
Missus Goldberg Marissa Goldberg provided a statement and it reads
the part of the press conference on Wednesday by Atlanta

(58:23):
Police Department and made an obvious reference to Dominique Jones
was complete in total nonsense to say he couldn't shoot
a music video in his hometown, a place that he
loves and continues to uplift. And it's disgraceful. Even more
the location for a major video even more, the location
for a major music video shoot is a decision made

(58:45):
by a professional team and not a decision made by
any individual. Bringing his name into a conversation regarding a
terrible crime for which he had obviously no involvement is unprofessional, unethical,
and shameful. Dominique's dea stated about the situation because those
children came from the same neighborhood he did, and he
will continue to build up his community in any way

(59:09):
that he can. Salute to Baby, friend of the show,
brother of the show, salute to all the CBFW all
the Homeboys, and also, I repeated to Kobe Davis and
Lamont Freeman, like, let's be clear, two children lost their
lives by no fault of little Baby. I can go

(59:29):
anywhere on God's Green Earth. I double my worth again
for law enforcement to be confirmed in the fact that
a band is in place, and they're recognizing that a
band is in place, and they having dismantled, done anything
to dismantle whatever gang had some sort of band in place.
Now Baby's attorney came out and I truly believe that.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
The statement he.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Provided to Double L and a lot of the other
platforms was it was a great statement, and it had
a couple of indicators in the statement that me, along
with Bradford Cohen, would say that he would probably need
to explore those avenues. If it was me, I would
probably sue APD. Folk County would be getting a lawsuit

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that has my name on it. There's no way that
you're going to continue to be irresponsible with my name.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
On top of that affirming some sort of gang band.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And like the police stand for it and stand by
if you're asking me, they should have been arguing the
other side if they respect the citizens of Folding County
and they really even look at the people involved like
human beings, because at this point they're starting to look
like rappers are sub human. See, it's dangerous for a

(01:00:54):
nigga to come from the ghetto and get a whole
bunch of money, and some people with their panic ba
than others. But when we look at that Folden County,
you can see panic written all over their face as
black men come through the trenches and get rich. My
affiliations don't dictate my contributions.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Everybody. I know. I ain't financing every motherfucking body.

Speaker 12 (01:01:19):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I ain't the nigga behind everything you see moving just
cause them niggas know me or they take a picture
with me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
We'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I mean, because the question then becomes, what do they
think about me? The same city that I'm donating to,
giving money to, helping out with, havn't been in any trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
What do they think about me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Some of those powerful people in those offices when they
are justifying that my presence on the scene and me
being allegedly shot at, it is a fault of mind
in this same city. But me and Breadford Corn, which
is he's a famous attorney. He's represented people like Kodak Black.

(01:02:06):
You probably know him for representing Drake a couple of
different people. He's one of the heavy hitters in the game,
and we share the same sentiments.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Again, a lossuit needs to be fouled.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
If you're asking me and Again, I don't speak for
Bradford con as it pertains to this section of it.
I'm just saying that we do share the same sentiments
as it pertains to maybe a lossuit needs to be
explored and we need to deploy some resources to put
something on file that they are completely over zealous when
it pertains to Dominique and Little Baby and rappers in

(01:02:40):
this town. Which is kind of on the record, but
I would be concerned when I look at Foldin County
over the last couple of years. You've seen what they've made,
some desperate attempts to take down a couple of rappers
in which they fail. I believe they get better at cheating,

(01:03:03):
And I know this sounds far fetched for people who
hasn't been involved in the legal system. I literally just
sawm send my boy feed and when I know he
beat that case, he had the case beat, they just
went ahead and convict him and sent him down the road.
My other people got the nine twenty two g shit
going on with the gun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
And the like. They play these games, my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I keep telling y'all dudes doing cooperation and they ain't
even getting nothing from it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
They tipping them off giving them shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
They ain't even getting ain't even cashing them me in
when they come to reducing their time or filing some
paperwork on their behalf. Like the FIZZ is running a
completely different game as well as the state, as well
as law enforcement. It's just a different game being played,
and I think if you don't know, then you can't
consider some of the parameters of things that I'm contributing

(01:03:51):
to the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Again, I believe them to get better at cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I speak with a certain reverence because I have spoke
to and these episodes are coming down the pipeline in
which I've interviewed lawyers that had to do with the
y sal interview jurors that had to do with the
WI sale, and so I have pertinent information as it
pertains to how they are dealing with these things from

(01:04:16):
both sides. Something needs to be said about Folton County
blacklisting the rap community.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
It's almost like that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
They have banded together and made a decision to blacklist
people who are contributing to involved with influence by even rap,
and I think that's unfortunate because Atlanta used to be
the mecca.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
People used to go down there and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Really feel like that they had a chance to make
it in music and different things, and feels like they're
trying to ostracize and make some of the people disassociated
themselves with the community that produces the talent. Because a
lot of times when I go deep down in Atlanta

(01:05:08):
and I speak to some of the real ones, they
tell me, Yo, now club crucial birth that dance. Now
that song came up out of compound. Now that song
never came up out of Magic City. These are the slums.
These are where.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
The black culture.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Congregates and they take community. There's a culture in Atlanta
where you are going to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
A lure and you may see a rap nigga that's
worth seven figures, eight figures. You dig what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
You may head over the Copper Cove and it's three
four niggas in here were nine figures. And this is
the community, brother, this is the environment that births these individuals.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
And they want to stay close to it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
And I'm telling you it's becoming detrimental to state close
to the very thing that made you who you are,
that encouraging and uplifting black men that once you get on,
cut everything black off and we'll bless your game room.
But I lose myself doing that. And black men are

(01:06:18):
in an unfortunate situation because we cannot control everything that
everyone around us does. So one of my little homies
go out and commit a crime like that, ain't on
my watch.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
I ain't told the boy to go commit no crime.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Well, he got a chain, he got he got an
fo he gotta it's up there podcast chain. Yes, because
he was with me when I was sleeping in the
car trying to figure out how we're gonna get this
thing going, and he stayed down. He don't even know
how to work camera, so he started fucking with the
camera on my behalf and we just start putting it together.
He really rolled me, So I went and put a

(01:06:52):
chain around his neck. This is my business, this is
what I represent, and now that's what I stand for.
So I would have put a chain around his neck.
That chain don't mean that we in some kind of alliance, agreement,
or I have any kind of affiliation with any kind
of criminal activity. You see him setting forth in any
behavior that he's exhibiting and has been putting forth to
the community. I haven't co signed, contributed, or been consulted

(01:07:16):
about any behavior you see any of these gentlemen doing.
It's unfortunate because I'm black and I'm rich that you're
telling me to stay away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
From the ghetto.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Granted, there's time to stay away from the ghetto. But
sometimes the essence of these young men like somebody like
bruing them. They young like, bro, this is where I
come from. But I will find a lawsuit man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
It will put some room in It will put some
room in between.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
The approach that Atlanta Police Department has been setting forth,
an approach that they should be presenting, as it pertains
to one of the more famous power for black men
that has not been in it need trouble in their
community and quite some time, I would think they would
have a certain reverence for that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
They would celebrate that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
And they play this game where one side celebrates you,
the other side tries to take you down. And so
you don't know which game you play. You don't know
who you're dealing with, right because they'll come celebrate you
down here and give you a key to the city.
Whole time, the DA looking to bring you down and
bring me down for what when I ain't contributed to
No behavior that you say is tearing up the community

(01:08:29):
for them to say that the mistake that little Baby
made was that he came to a community to shoot
a video that was appalling. If I was Baby, I
would be concerned because again they're gonna learn how to cheat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Salute a little baby again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Rip Jacobe Davis and Lamont Freeman, APD. Y'all been doing
a horrible job at trying to get your cloud together.
I mean, it's obvious, it's written all over your face.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
It's not to a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Point now where you can even deny the fact that
you guys have something against rappers. And it's unfortunate. If
it was me, I would move from that town. I'd
have made it. I Dodnet made enough money, I'm gone.
I'll come down here, but my address and everything about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Me would be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Moved away from there because and again, dude, Baby Nam
is a nine figure nigga. He eight nine figure niggas.
So Baby got several houses. Probably don't even be down
there like that, or may be done. But it's unfortunate
you cannot be a part of the same community that
birthed you and instill some of the beliefs that took
you so far in life. Sometimes you want to look

(01:09:43):
back and ride down the same streets. Say man, I
used to walk down these streets. Now I mean something
worth a million dollars pulling up. You know what I'm saying.
I used to stand outside this building, man, and we
used to smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Now own this whole, the whole little comp picks right
here right. Sometimes you want to celebrate your wins, but
salute the baby. Glad Bruthernan was good from that situation.
Of course, that happened last year. The irresponsible behavior from
Folden County needs to be examined, studied, ostracized.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
They need to be disbarred.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
We need to have more people put in position it
has a little bit more tact about themselves and not
so irresponsible. That's my take on the little baby scenario
with APD, and as that develops, we will revisit. I
do want to get to the pod trade talks. For
those who do not know, this is a scenario in

(01:10:37):
which we're gonna talk about today in which Joe Budden
podcast did a couple of different episodes and had it
all on Twitter where they were basically speaking about podcast
trades and who they would trade and what they were
traded for. It started actually on the podcast, I think

(01:10:57):
it went over to a Patreon and then they are
also took it over to Twitter. I believe they do
spaces over there several hours out of the day. I
think these are some of the most uneventful humans that
we have on this side of podcasting, and so we
definitely want to examine how they have so much availability

(01:11:18):
throughout the day to just sit on spaces. I think
that is a skill set that a lot of us
don't possess. I mean a lot of us have other
things that we're doing. And so with that being said,
our availability, we just wouldn't check that box, right, for
lack of better term, So salute to the guys that
have twenty four hour availability to be on space and

(01:11:42):
scream what kind of value that they have into the
void because no one's listening, right. This is one of
the more delusional conversations that I've heard come from the
WCW when we deal with some of the people that
was having these conversations. Of course, I expect my name

(01:12:03):
not to come up. You know, when my name comes up,
it's a search and destroy. It's like if you said
his name, bleep it out. I don't care if we're
talking about podcasting. I don't care if we're talking about podcasts.
I don't care if we're talking about anything. If you
say his name, bleep it out, and I get to
thinking of myself, Joe Budden can't have this big of

(01:12:23):
an ego to what he truly believes that him saying
my name on his show will benefit me in any
kind of way. Nigga, you sit next to people that
sit on the show, and it don't beefit them. Let's
get to that, like we're gonna have a real conversation.
Let's get to that. It's people that sit on that show.
And when soon as you get out the picture, everything

(01:12:45):
falls apart.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
So let's get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Nigga, You saying my name on your show, don't do
me no motherfucking nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Ain't no charity case.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
And the more I think a body loan is bigger
than that, it's bigger than that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I see pass it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
So the people at the WCW have been having a
conversation about us over here at the WWF WWE, and
they're worried about what it looks like, what a trade
talk is, Who's worth who? If Joe had to trade
this person to be on the couch. What is it worth? Now,
this is some of the most delusional commentary that you're

(01:13:37):
gonna hear for the rest of the year. I just
want to set that standard before we even go into it.
We even got into a gray area where a couple
of couple of the people who are part of the show,
or maybe just associates of the show, was saying that
Yo Joe Rogan is not a fair trade for Joe Budden,

(01:13:59):
indicating that Joe Button may be worth more than Joe Rogan.
At that point, I knew we're dealing with dick sucking
at the highest extent. Excuse my language, We're dealing with
dick sucking at the highest extent. This is where I
want to start at first, And for those of you
not on Patreon, you won't be able to see this.

(01:14:19):
Joe Budden in quarter Lab, shut out the quarter Lab.
They've been trying to get with us. We'll probably do
something with them this year, probably fourth quarter this year,
third quarter this year. We'll look back into getting a
deal or signing something with quarter Lab, interested to see
how they could help the business. But if you're not
on my Patreon you're not gonna see these videos for context.

(01:14:43):
I'm gonna try to come out of the video and
give a little commentary because I know they're gonna cut
it out the YouTube video. But for full context you
have to come to Patreon. But we're about to look
at right now and add some commentary to is Joe
Budden and his cast of eight or nine p B
speaking on possible podcast Trade Talks with Joe Budden and

(01:15:05):
others at the Helm pay Attentions trade.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
This is bad funny.

Speaker 7 (01:15:13):
Oh, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Give me Shultz Ray Daniels, No.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Shout his trade. This is his trade. You should trade
me next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
For Shultz Ray Daniels. Trip.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yeah, you better both get up there. You know, my
body ahead, man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Over Sultz because you gotta cover all the bases. You're starting. Well,
that's his trade, Ray Daniels. Two people cover it, Trip
Trippy Fontaine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
We're thinking the same too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
I think so.

Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Hold on, I'm trying to run through my brain all
of the podcasts you want to come back to you. Yeah, please,
uh let me get.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
Prime Charlemagne because you did say prom let me do
Prime Charlemagne and academics there you can go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
For Joe. Yeah, your Prime I need Prime Star. You
started with Star is different? Start Yeah, Year, that's not
that's not a swa that's not a swamp even till

(01:16:46):
the start start Prime Star. I love Star, know you
do not two thousand and two stars, one Star. I'm
not gonna hold you. I ain't even doubt it's a
good one, right there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Absolutely loved Star. Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
You need one more though, I don't think it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Yeah, it's you don't. You don't you don't need one more?
You don't Prime Star is that's not true? Yeah, that's
my trade star of Legend Star as a mont.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Prime Star coming here and prizepects will be going cash
at Yeah who else anybody that's putting the doc.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Into you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Let me get, let me get Prime Star, Prime Star
come here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
You gotta hate month run.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Let me star and promise Jones?

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
No, no, all right here, trade me man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Prime, Charlemagne Prime Rogan.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
Damn that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Rogan is it is a swap Prime? Who in prim? Who?

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
I know this?

Speaker 8 (01:17:49):
Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Didn't just say Prime? Rogan in Prime? What's your niggas
being paid? I'm a wu.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Niggas pay check Joe Button for Charlemagne and Joe Rogan
is Come on, son, I know that y'all got. Come on, son,
Come on, wipe your mouth son, yo, Son, Come on, son,

(01:18:22):
niggas be all that melodies and all of this shit.
Man trying to get in where you fit in. Man,
come on, son, let's listen to some more that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Just come on, son. For those of you who don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Who are not on Patreon, it was just suggested that
Joe Butden needed to be traded and it was only
an equivalent trade if it was Prime Charlemagne and Prime
Joe Rogan. Man, I can't believe them. Nigga just said that. Man,

(01:19:00):
can't believe him. Nigga just said that, bro, pay attention.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
To me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Charlemagne is not as funny as Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I don't think y'all know just how I think it's
this daring.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
I don't think. I don't think he's with it like Joe.
Joe is a rapper that could think of some ship
in the middle of a conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
I don't that what you're talking about, y'all forgetting what
prom Charlemagne was out there doing. Prime Charlamagne was getting
it done.

Speaker 8 (01:19:22):
No, he was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
I think if we're dealing with Joe right now, and
would you consider this right now you're prime?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Would I?

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
I could? Is that is that fire? So that I wouldn't?

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I wouldn't because I have a belief and.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Let's just say yeah with Corey on this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah, because the money wasn't okay, the money wasn't here,
so I had to be unfilled.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
I think if we met, I think I think if
we're matching those two primes as far as just influencing
what they did and how they spoke, I think it's
a fair trade.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Charlemagne and Joe at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Prime know Charlomagne and what I was able to do for.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
All Right, let me step in for a second, and
I'm gonna put some respect on the WCW. I ain't
gonna just act like you know what I'm saying that
that y'all ain't over there having some good matchups and
things are, you know, clicking on all cylinders and there's
one guy that's eating off most of that's eating most
of the pie. I'm not gonna sit here act like

(01:20:26):
that case. That's not the case, right, It wouldn't do
anyone any benefit for me to exaggerate people's contributions. But
I also want to be clear for everyone over at
the wcw Yo, y'all cannot fuck with us over here.
Let's just look at the lineups. Number one, me and Charlemagne,
get Joe and whoever out of there. I don't give

(01:20:48):
a fuck who you putting next to Joe. You may
got to put Joe in academics, but academics is a Joe.
So I would look at academics having to get somebody
Me and Charlemagne. He and Charlemagne put you in whoever
the bed that go for academics and Joe, butden And
that's withit for with conversation transition. That's all of the

(01:21:09):
shit that podcasters do. Me and Charlemagne put whoever the
bed that's number one. Number two, if we deal with
Prime Charlemagne and Prime Joe, let's keep it gangster Joe
Budden can't interview like Charlemagne. So even if you give
Joe a bump, which I don't, because Prime Charlemagne is
a different kind of animal. He's way more with your

(01:21:31):
way more funnier. I mean He's done this for so long, right,
I think it's understated what Charlemagne does.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
On the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
And now that I'm working on a daily basis doing this,
I'm saying, oh, this is this is more work than
I anticipated. He got to have a take every single day,
every single morning, every single point, for every single topic,
five days a week, then do a podcast with shows,
then go speaking interviews like the workload ain't even like,

(01:22:00):
come on, let's keep a gangster bro. But let me
put this in lame in terms. Joe Budden can't interview
Charlotte like Charlemagne. And Charlemagne is just as funny as
Joe Budden, if not funnier. So Joe Budden can't see
Charlemagne if you ask me. But when we look at

(01:22:21):
the WCW and we say, all right, what do we
want to do over here, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Just say me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Let's just say we entertain this on this side and
we'll smoke in there of y'all boots, Like, go get
everybody you cool with your whole ecosystem, your whole network,
your whole infrastructure. You got Charlemagne, you got Big Loan,
you got Andrew Shoultz, you got DC, Young Fly, Duval Glasses, Malone,
Killer Mike, Like who y'all playing with? Carlosmiller? Like who

(01:22:48):
y'all playing with over there? And this is before I
even get into like who y'all playing with over that?
At the w CW that little cash y'all got. Listen,
we liked the little thing y'all doing, brother, But don't
make us mount up on this side, because it ain't
even a fair fight, bro, And we all separate. Running
hell of a businesses them niggas away from Joe, butten

(01:23:10):
fall apart like wet paper. So when he comes to
this content game, let's keep it real and keep it
in his proper perspective. You know, I told it's the
other week, Yo, you're getting better at this thing, son,
because I caught a couple of episodes. I'm like, Yo,
that dude actually he cooking up there and he's bringing perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Joe is Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Outside of that with for wit bro respectfully, and it
should have an issue like on this high level, specially
when you come into a room by yourself, leave all
your friends out there, you one on one, let's talk,
let's speak what you got to give. When somebody ain't
laughing at your jokes when somebody looking you in the

(01:23:54):
eyes and want you to stand on some of the
things you speaking about, craft your opinion, make it make sense.
We got fact checkers over there. You don't just get
dispute things scholar for scholar. And on the other side
of this, y'all ain't even saw me get into my
bag yet about any other other topics that I'm really
well versed in. And that's another thing that Charlamagne has

(01:24:18):
on Joe Button. You can't speak to Joe Budden about
neo conservatism. You can't speak to him about tensions with China,
Middle East politics, global echo.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Like litten, come on, son, like he's a funny guy.
We like you, Son, You're a funny dude.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
But like, let's come on, son, let's keep it real,
let's keep it let's like you dig what I'm saying.
I'm gonna start wondering, can anybody hold a deal outside
of Joe? Like, can they can anyone over there go
by themselves and go get a deal like respectfully and
hold it down, like literally, go hold it down. When

(01:24:57):
you get from over here, you go over there and
try to fit that out too, like hold it down.
These are just questions that need answers, and I ain't
doing no hay not. I enjoy sometimes what the WCW does.
Sometimes they got some good things going on, Like sometimes
I catch it, but it ain't really Yeah, like come on,
like everybody on this side running big business. What the

(01:25:21):
fuck y'all be over there talking about him versus him
or trade this for that? Bring Joe Rogan and this
and that. Niggas even brought up doctor Umar. I don't
know when Joe Budden gonna really get the nuts and
tell everybody that I influenced him to get Umar.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Let's get to that. Joe Budden knew Umar for years.
Let's get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Let's tell the audience what really made Joe Budden go
and fuck with Umar. When we spoke about the d
N Sanders thing, it brought a different aspect.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Let's get to that. These dudes grab things from everyone.
Let's be clear.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
I also want to point out that you're oh Button
was threatening to Soue fifty cent and simultaneously shitting on
small YouTubers on Twitter, and so like a boss, I say,
go get in fifty faced. But let's sit that to
the side. That fifty shit like it seems to be.

(01:26:20):
Fifty has a level of respect with those guys that
you can't pay for. It gotta only be instilled by fear.
This ain't got nothing to do with money music. This
is feelbase respect, And I know the difference that can
distinguish the difference because I come from where you gotta
know why niggas is looking like that. Is they scared
or is they prepare? I'm looking at a couple of

(01:26:41):
individuals that's seemingly apprehensive to address fifty cent in the
same way that they do small YouTubers. But what we
cannot sit here and do is play this little game
that they want to play. Pay attention to a little more. Again,
if you are not on Patreon, you will not be

(01:27:04):
able to see this context. We will try to come
back with commentary that makes sense as to what we
just saw as a family, but as of right now,
we just rolled off of them speaking about Joe Rogan
and Prime Charlemagne for Joe Budden.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Pay attention, shout.

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
It, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that,
And then people can say that about what you and
Spotify and what Spotify did for you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
It wouldn't be. It doesn't matter. It's what they did say.
I'm asking what they did. I don't know. Amplification is
what he's trying to say.

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
They amplified his They amplified his name, and they put
him on a They backed up his name.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Let me ask you, do we know how? And I'm
just asking at the curiosity. See, do we know what the.

Speaker 13 (01:27:48):
Production is like over there at our Heart, at the
Breakfast Club and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
You've been there? I don't know you've been there too.
They got a production team and all that shit. It's small.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Hey today You're lucky day is I've been on there too,
Salute to the fast.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
You fucking right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
They got a production team, and I wouldn't call it small,
especially being someone with no production team. Again, we gotta
have context. You can't call my twenty twenty Bentley old.
When you drive a Nissan Ultimate, get you a Bentley,
preferably a new one, before you call man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Oh you see what I'm saying. So let me speak to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
The infrastructure that Breakfast Club has access to. It goes
well beyond what some guests that's coming in there for
an hour conceit. So I think that Ian Dunlap spoke
out a turn when he just said that. And for
those who didn't see what n. Dunlap said, he tried
to hold it down a little bit and salute the end.

(01:28:55):
We used to speak a lot. For some reason, we
don't speak anymore. When he hit hangs around Joe a
lot doesn't hurt me any. It doesn't hurt me in
the slightest bit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
So each ass.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Does Breakfast Club have a production team? He says, Joe,
you've been up that end, you've been up there? Do
they have a production team? Inn says they have a
small production team. I don't think they understand how resourceful
the Breakfast Club is. To our heart, you won't see
how big that production team is just by coming in
there for an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Let's be clear on that. I just want that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Let the record reflect that. And Breakfast Club has a team.
They have researchers the end, they have resources. They're not
just shooting off the hip. They have to be accurate
because they held to a certain standard. They're on radios
and cars. It's a totally different vibration at Breakfast Club.
And I think until you've done it on that level,
only maybe Joe understands it because it's a different level

(01:29:58):
of business being ran, a different level of commentating happen.
You have to do it day in, day out, every
single day, and not just about topics that interest you,
topics that interest the community, the culture, the audience. It's
bigger than just you. So now you gotta be well
versed in geopolitics. Now you gotta be well versed in

(01:30:21):
the political spill and all of these different things. So
I think it was understated when they're speaking about the
Breakfast Club and their production team, when they spoke to
it being small again, they're very resourceful.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Let's take a look at a little.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
More hit me recently. Anyway, if he's up here, I'd.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Love to have him. Absolutely. Dame is a monster, speaking
like like dames, damons like.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
For Gary, what, I'm just as insult me. Gary v
is him? He ain't him? With this with this fan base,
get that white short nigga the fuck yo.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
You want to see the Patreon comments you see they
might it's for Gary.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
It's not a fut trade.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Who do you name and like?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Because you name and like niggas nine figure niggas on air.
I'm not trading Gary. H it's for my man, his opinion, the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Money. You're an idiot. Yeah, you out the door, You
out the door, Give me fucking a box of crack.
And so you see the unproven Is that what you're saying?
Wallow for me? Wallow you got your while man? Hey,
you about your woman.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
I don't want to get traded for no.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Somebody that who would you get traded for? Wallace are
heard out? Yeah he's not.

Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Tough. I got a back fluss, well trading? Who named
you bleep? Right there? Old school? Hey? School? Who named
you bleep? You're scared of somebody? Old school? If I

(01:32:30):
ain't no pay attention, pay attention now, No I'm not.
I'm listen whatever I go. I'm cool. I'm just figured out,
figure it out. I got a back fluss, well, tra.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Yes, you know what they find funny, right? The funny

(01:33:25):
part about that is they know that he has made
it to what nobody say my name up there, and
he just said my name. And let me say this,
Ian Dunlap is in the building. Me and Ian Dunlap

(01:33:49):
used to have somewhat of a cordial relationship. Ian Dunlap
does not represent the dub c W he represents the
ec W. Let's get to that. I don't even know
how he get into conversation. Then they bring it back
in where it seemed like he could be talking about me.
But I know Ian don Las ain't tomed by Loan.

(01:34:15):
That's my guy. I know he ain't town about Loan.
I would expect more. But let's be clear on something.
A trade for me and anybody up there is not
a fair trade. I run my own successful podcast business.

(01:34:35):
I'm still searching for a name up that it's doing
the same. I'll wait and I'll give you some time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
First.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
I didn't know how to take the last, but I
know these dudes are harmless. They don't mean no harm.
So it's just it's content long. But it's some people
laughing in there that ain't got no business laughing. We'll
get to that. And let me say this. There's a
mold at the JBP. Let me be clear about that.

(01:35:08):
I'm preview the information about Joe Budden's podcast that I
shouldn't be preview to and we'll keep that there. But
I want to say this, none of them guys make
more than me except Joe. None of them guys are
better on the Mic than me.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
One on one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
I'll take any one of them guys down topic for topic.
There's nothing they can do with me. That's why they
gotta bleep my name.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
See. The problem is they hate because everybody loved me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
That's when I knew it was some weird energy because
everybody was loving on me and it was a group
of fuck niggas that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Was hating on me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
It didn't stop nothing, and it didn't hurt nothing. I
salute everybody on the WCW. You guys are doing a
fantastic job. But let's not jump out of the window
and say that over here at the WWE that win't
high quality talent Number one, just Laura l rossa man
d any of those girls that get Melissa out the

(01:36:07):
Paul and we could keep Mandy on your side if
you want. We still got women on this side that
will get Melissa out to park. Tedsln Figaro is one
of them. Let's get to that. Let's get to that now,
Tamika merrily, let's not even talk about Tamika, Like, do
y'all really want to do this? Like, let's be clear, bro,

(01:36:30):
it's a bunch of niggas up there, as you know,
just grab me hold to a cape, and I respect
that because it's working. But the w C W ain't
got no bed in there. You understand me talking about
the WWE like this here. That's if you ask me. Now,
this conversation proceeded, right. You see the laugh and the
jokes and the jokes and the laughs. My name may

(01:36:52):
come up. Listen, they can always have plausible deniability and
say we didn't say long name.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
But you guys are talking about park casters.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
You niggas talk about everybody but Loan because you had
this weird obsession or this weird vouching your brain that
thinks that if you say my name on your show,
it gives me some kind of validation.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
I've been past that, nigga, I've been way past that.
Is you kidding me? Right? We know it's friendly competition?
Is you kidding me? You actually think that I get
something for you saying this shit on nigga? You know
what they saying?

Speaker 13 (01:37:27):
This shit that you think on your show gonna do
something for this here boy, oh man, that ain't gonna
do nothing for loon.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
But this conversation proceeded over the tour. To pay attention
to this video.

Speaker 14 (01:37:44):
Nighttime type situation. I think everybody else cause that I
think I is good for the Patreon. I think Filip
is necessarily sary for the Patreon too, But like Mark
Lamont and then add a little Mona up there, I
think that's a vibe to me. But three mic, oh
geez with even with the trade, I would say.

Speaker 8 (01:38:05):
It doesn't even have to be simply just Joe.

Speaker 11 (01:38:07):
Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 6 (01:38:08):
It can be just your perfect your perfect ABC MIC combination.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Any pie ye oh. I would say.

Speaker 14 (01:38:17):
Drea from Poor Minds Mona Joe. Really that would be
a fire three old like.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Joe with two ladies.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
So Joe one more time on Joe, Mike not not Drea, Lex.

Speaker 15 (01:38:33):
People Joe is a mic, who's Mike, Lex p Na
Mona and then lex p Okay, okay, And I think
that would.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Be that's your worst pot, that you would the worst pot.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
You want to get rid of it, never hear again.
M hm can.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
The worst pot?

Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:39:01):
I would rather say potter. I agree with whoever said Elliott.
Second runner up to Elliott is Jay One Okay, Okay.
I think he's good for spaces but that's about it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Okay, So Jeff Tig and the other homie for me
and Ice.

Speaker 16 (01:39:25):
All right, we that part that is, yeah, I know
if the volume is about to have your arrested, I
wrapped up.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Yeah you sure did.

Speaker 5 (01:39:39):
Big niggas putting nigga in the first class ticket over
the web.

Speaker 14 (01:39:44):
That I would have to agree with, Thrian right, appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:53):
H give me, give me your give me your trades.
If you got to make trades, give me your perfect
you're doing trade.

Speaker 8 (01:40:01):
Yeah, we're doing, We're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
I just hold on us.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
So now let's get give me, give me your.

Speaker 5 (01:40:06):
Give me your trades, if you got to make trades,
give me your perfect A B C MIC and then
give me the one podcast you want to get rid
of or Potter Man.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I can't answer all those questions. Come on, so get
the first one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Get the first one.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
Getting ahead A B A B ab okay, A B
C A Mike be Star, Start Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
And that lady the white girl, don't call me white girl.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:38):
I like that, So start that stars that A mic
Joe's to B MIC and then well we'll start and well,
I don't know because if it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Uh, prime star would be the A mic. Okay, yes,
but now.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
If it's now, it'll be interchangeable between Jones Starr like so,
so if it's now, I have Joe Star and call
me Waker. I like those three.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
I like Miss Jones as the CE Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
I like Miss Jones too, but jonesy Jonesy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Yeah hmhmm, because all of them can hold down that
a Mike, B Mike or c MIC at any point
like they like. Yeah, I like that that Star Joe
and Miss.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Jones is different.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Hey, hold on the funny Joe said, he said, Patreon
said on the regular part, if Star came in on
the Doctor, I guess okay, he says, what's the other question?

Speaker 6 (01:41:47):
And then the one podcast or Potter you never want
to hear from again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good Yeah, we
can packle it up. I like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
You can hear the silence in the room long and
it went quiet because don't nobody really agree with it,
but they know they've been indoctrinated to hate on the player.
You know, I'm running around giving a thousand milligrams a game.
I ain't gonna act like the w C. W ain't

(01:42:29):
contributing to the algorithm. They contributed to the algorithm. I
know they from the Kills and did it error. They
ain't got to keep yelling it every time I say, Yo,
I'm Joe Budden, I'm from the Kills and did it eerror?

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
You see what I'm saying. I know what's going on.
You're on from the Kills and did it era? I
know what's good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Yeah, they don't got to keep yelling it. But when
my name come up, you see how quiety gets. Don't
nobody really get with this man? This is hate, man,
and it's hate that's accepted because niggas need opportunity and
niggas is broke, pitty, starving hustlers. If we're being honest
with ourself and we're being honest to the people, I

(01:43:11):
wipe the floor with all of them, guys, And that's respectfully.
They go from everything but love it. And this is
just dealing with the competitive side of podcasting. I want
you guys to know that. You know, I come in
peace everything these people touch, for all the part. If
Joe not standing right next to him, they gonna exhaust him.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
He's gonna be devastated and exhausted.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
If you gotta run around and you know I said
this at the beginning, Joe got to learn how to
utilize his start power to start up some of these shows.
But then they want to argue about how much they work.
Little niggas is delusional. Little nigga, you delusional. The numbers
only there because Joe there, and you want to go

(01:43:56):
in the back office and argue about how much percentage
you won't on it when it's on my platform, it's
my show. I'm installing this audience equity into you. But
you want to argue about a percentage, little nigga piped down.
Little nigga piped down. If you ain't climbing up buildings

(01:44:16):
and jumping through tables, we really don't want to hear
what you're saying now. You add an element to the
show sometimes, but I don't need to keep hearing about
you niggas on their side from the WCW, from the
Keils and did it Era?

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
You dig what I'm saying. You niggas can't see me main.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Listen, you know, put some respect on my name and
definitely put some respect on all the players on this
side name. And these dudes is running successful businesses, operating
that extremely high level. Number One, when we talk about
eighty five South. We talking about tickets sold all around
the country, and y'all got the nerve to utter anything
but respect when it comes to the families, like, let's

(01:45:04):
keep it legit, Let's keep it above board, because we
know one thing. If Joe stops showing up, I give
it thirty days, forty fifty sixty, maybe seventy percent of
the audience will digress. Let's keep it gangst as you
see me building a business. Let's not be irresponsible with

(01:45:24):
the things that we utter into the void. Because some
of you guys on your third try and you're still
watching me with what I'm doing with my first one.
I think this should be some respect giving When you
see me operate at a high level.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Amongst the elite.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
You dig what I'm saying, and I know the approach
is usually to use a recycled narrative that has been
disproved in fifty sixty seventy times. At this point, I'll
continue to say, if you find any fake views on
my youth to it, I stopped today. There is not
one fake view. But my influence is so heavy. The

(01:46:06):
first thing they try to say is is that I'm
faking my influence. I had in exchange with the money,
which I could never go back and forth with the money.
That's why I don't spend a lot of time on them.
I go back to Joe, I go back to the platform,
I go back to the infrastructure. I go back to
the business, because that's what my interest lies. It does
not lie these low level conversations. These individuals just don't

(01:46:29):
get my motive gone. I'm not interested. I'm not interested.
I'm running a business alone, doing what these guys are
really afraid to do. Even with the audience equity coming
from Joe Budden. It's interesting, but nonetheless, there is no
fake views and there is no fake influence. There's nothing

(01:46:50):
but raw conversation, people enjoying the show, people like y'all
looking at it, respecting it. And my name is my name.
I come from a very dangerous place. Any event, I
wasn't who I said I was. The get O would
have been loud and clear, wade wade way before I
got to this level.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
Respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Let me not have to say too much or put
anything on demonstration, because I'm willing to do so at
the drop of a dime.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Right at the drop of a dime, I'm willing to
go platinum.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
I don't know who they where you, I don't know
where y'all from and what they said, But ask anybody
at any moment, I'm going platinum.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Wherever you play, you lay, that's law, you dig, and.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Again, respectfully to the WCW, this is my perspective on
the trade talk. And this is just a short conversation.
I ain't even get into all of the kind of
come on, let's keep it gainst them. I can put
together some things that will look real good on paper man.
And when my name come up, you know, I would
probably say, y'all should continue to bleep it if it

(01:47:58):
serves you, if it serves your ego in a way
that makes you feel like, oh, I'm bleeping his name.
It's some real, like weird old shit going on on
that side. But salute to everybody in the WCW. Y'all
continue to contribute to the algorithm. We're gonna continue to
run a good business on this side. Everybody on this

(01:48:19):
side gonna continue to thrive, continue to try to prosper,
continue to install infrastructure in the neighborhoods. I continue to
breathe life into the soldiers I'm gonna continue to lead
the way, lead to pack, help people understand you can
reach your full potential. And you know, put one foot
in front of the other. Thought no grass growing to

(01:48:40):
my feet. I really appreciate everybody watching this video. We
catch y'all next week. It's up there podcast, Let's Get It. Also,
we'll be live on Patreon on Wednesday. Come to Patreon,
be live with us as a community, just talking about
some things. Y'all know how I get out, y'all know
how I give it up. I appreciate y'all. Love forever
and no

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