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class has been tapped in with me. Welcome everyone. Today
we're gonna speak about Sean Pete did he Combs. He
has now been arrested on a flurry of charges, including
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six trafficking, racketeering, among other things. I want us to
take a look at a video that sums up Sean P.
Diddy Comb's arrest and what's going on, and we'll come
back with some commentary road or tape.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
My name is Damian Williams, and I'm the US attorney
here in the Southern District of New York. Today, I'm
announcing the unsealing of a free count indictment charging Shawn
Combs with racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking, intertate transportation for prostitution.
The indictment alleges that between at least two thousand and
eight and the present Comb's abused, threatened, and coerce victims
to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal
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his conduct. As a legend of the indictment, to carry
out this conduct, Shawn Comes led and participated in a
racketeering conspiracy that used the business empire he controlled to
carry out criminal activity including sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery,
and the obstruction of justice. Let me say a little
bit more about the charges. The indictment alleges that Combes
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abuse and exploited women and other people for years and
in a variety of ways. As alleged, Combs used force,
threats of force in corrosion to cause victims to engage
in extended sexual performances with male commercial sex workers, some
of whom he transported or caused to be transported over
state lines. Combs allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances,
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which he called freakoffs, and he often electronically recorded them.
The freakoffs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple
commercial sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics
such as ketamine, ecstasy, and GHB, which Combs distributed to
the victims to keep them obedient and compliant. As allege
when Cones didn't get his way, he was violent and
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he subjected victims of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse so
that they would participate in the freakofs, and that Combs hit, kicked,
through objects, at, and drag victims, at times.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
By their hair.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
On one occasion in March of twenty sixteen, that conduct
was captured on video and later reported in the media. Specifically,
Combs kicked, dragged, and threw a vase at a victim
in a Los Angeles hotel.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When the victim was attempting to flee.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
As alleged, these assaults often resulted in injuries to the victims,
which took days or weeks to heal. In addition to
the violence, the indictment alleges that Combes threatened and coerce
victims to get them to participate in the freakfs. He
used the embarrassing and sensitive recordings he made of the
freak offs as collateral against the victims, and the indictment
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alleges that he maintained control over the victims in several ways,
including by giving them drugs, by giving and threatening to
take away financial support or housing, by promising them career opportunities,
by monitoring their whereabouts and even by dictating their physical appearance.
Because of all of this, the indictment alleges that the
victims did not believe they could refuse Combs without risking
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their security or facing more abuse. The indictment also alleges
other acts of violence undertaken by Combs and others, including
violence against witnesses of his abuse, kidnapping, and arson. The
indictment alleges that on more than one occasion, Combs carried
or brandished firearms to intimidate and threaten victims and witnesses.
Now Comes did not do this all on his own.
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As I mentioned, Combs has been charged with rico conspiracy.
He used his business and employees of that business and
other close associates to get his way. Those individuals allegedly
included high ranking supervisors in the business, personal assistance, security staff,
and household staff. The indictment alleges that those individuals facilitated
the free coffs. They booked the hotel rooms and stock
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them with the supplies including drugs, baby oil, personal lubricant,
extra linens, and lighting. When the hotel rooms got damaged,
they helped clean it up. They arranged for victims and
commercial sex workers to travel for the free coffs, and
they delivered large quantities of cash to Combs to pay
for the commercial sex workers. The indictment also alleges that
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they helped Combs cover up his crimes. During the March
twenty sixteen incident at the La Hotel that I mentioned earlier,
a member of the hotel security staff intervened and Combs
attempted to bribe the staff member with a stack of
cash to make sure that what happened was kept quiet,
and as the indictment alleges, in late twenty twenty three,
after public allegations were made about Combs's crimes, he and
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others pressured witnesses and victims to stay silent, including by
making phone calls to witnesses and victims and giving them
a false narrative of what they had experienced.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
There's a whole lot to take in with that number one.
The federal government has a fourteen page indictment as it
pertains to this case against Diddy. If I would have
let him continue, but I'm sure most of you already
have saw that video. Reason why I cut it short
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because I think the commentary is more important. We do
a little context setting for people who may need a
refresher as to what we're speaking about and what the
approach may be to the conversation. And so we try
to start there. But there's a lot to unpack with this.
We got to deal with Bondon. Now, we have to
deal with the moves that Diddy has been making. We're
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dealing with the reason why they made the rest at
this time on that particular day, What the lawyer has
been doing, quote unquote being proactive, and there's a lot
of things. But I take no pleasure in seeing what
one of the four or five black men and we
have come out of hip hop being drugged down to
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his knees. I don't want to speak to the particulars
of the indictment just yet. We're gonna let the evidence
roll out. I do know that you know, we all
saw a video in which did he had some disgusting behavior.
We're gonna get into some of the contradictions that the
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lawyer is placing forward that Yo, if I can say
see this on this level, I think you may want
to watch that going in caught against the federal government.
But we'll talk about that here in the second But
I take no pleasure in these black men falling. I
was telling someone when you someone like Diddy, this isn't
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just like a CEO of let's say Sprite or Apple
or someone that's a part of a weld or machine,
that that machine is going to continue to roll no
matter what, even if they are not. Diddy's position in
the culture is not of that elk. It's not of
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that texture. And I say that not to have any
disrespect to Ditty, more so to highlight that our culture
doesn't really have any criteria or anything that keeps you
in those positions outside of productivity. And it's only but
so much productivity you can do in a year. So
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what am I getting to? It takes time. And so
when you pluck a Diddy out of the scenario, you
pluck a jay Z, you pluck some of these guys
out of the scenario, you plucking twenty five years worth
of relationships in the music business, people that he may
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have hired in the nineties early nineties now running this
label over here, because they all been in the business
twenty years and so it's phone calls that he can
make to make things move and shake, as it pertains
the business. We ain't even talking about freakouts and all that.
I'm just saying as a black man in business, there
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is a deficit as.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It pertains to the place that Diddy sat in.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It takes years to carefully craft up your way through
this crash course. It takes so much time. It ain't
about talent, because you can be like yo, I can write,
I can write, man, we can get some more hits. Yeah,
but what about the things that Biggie did in ninety four,
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ninety five, ninety.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It did the things that Biggie did in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That legacy takes time to boil over for you to
recognize it and appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It has to live though that time. So we lose
that side.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
And so I say that our culture takes a hit
as it pertains the powerful black men being in entertainment,
and we look around and we don't see many of
us even in those power positions.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Did it was one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Now, some can argue that have trouble being paid and
the business side of things wasn't was not the greatest.
You can argue that. But in this arrest you hear
them say we have found several things. They found firearms,
but they didn't charge him with a gun. They mentioned
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that they found one thousand bottles of baby or that's
not a crime either. Now, I do think it speaks
to the freak off. And this gets slippery right because
a long time in the industry I heard people say, yo,
did he mess with the men?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know, talk with when they telling you this, they
ain't moving their mouth, you see.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So it's been whispers around the industry, and then some
people have also been front facing with it, like man,
he buy, Man, ain't nothing wrong with that he buy?
And I've always been in the back of my mind
just being like, yo, man, the.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Internet shit crazy boy. But they internet shit crazy boy,
and folk be saying anything.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Then them little videos and pop up you'll be like,
oh man, it say, ain't kind of saying.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Like man, what was that?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
But now did hey gotta come on out and expose everything?
Oh yeah, y'all ain't saw the place. See, I'm giving
y'all a game. This is one on one. I'm giving
y'all a game. And hope ain't nobody listening. But did
it Finn expose Cassie? Oh yeah, you try to take
me down?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh nah?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
They feel that whatever secrets he got on Cashi, is
Finna come out and play out in front the world.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's Finna play out in front the world.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Now here's a couple of interesting things about Diddy and
how they're arrested him. If you noticed over the last
couple of weeks, you saw Diddy just pop up in
New York and people it was like, yo, Diddy's.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
In the streets of New York walking around.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Academic said something, and this made kind of made me
look at it different.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Academic said that Diddy is out there and.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
He's just kind of looking like it ain't like he
used to be, you know, talking back and forth. Love,
how you doing that? You know, he's not engaged with
the people. He just he damn, there is the black
Joe Biden they had before they locked it up. He
was walking around like the black Joe Biden, just and
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what he was doing. He was not engaged. But him
moving back to New York didn't strike anyone as odd,
we know, did He don't want to stay in New York.
He could have been stayed in New York. He want
to stay in Miami. He know he can't stay in
La because Surety is in La don't stay out there.
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It's a little too if it. Stay in Miami, away
from everybody in the big mansion. That's where he wanted
to stay. But he came to New York didn't even
stay in the house. I thought he imagined he would
have had a house or a pen OUs or something there,
but he was staying at a hotel. And so when
he pop up in New York and he linked with
GDP and linked with some of those Harlem legends, it
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felt like he was saying his goodbyes, like bro any
day now, bro, yeah, my lawyer said, and broke and a.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Nigga they coming, Yeah, yeah, they coming. Yeah, my lawyer
said that. My lawyer said, they on the way. And
that's what kind of felt like.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
His lawyer has been in constant communication at least. But
here's what you find out when you do the research.
His lawyer has been in one way communication with the
federal government. They ain't been giving him no juice. Nah,
they ain't giving him no play. He hitting him, They
ain't respond, They leaving him on red. Yeah, we ain't
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playing this little game. We know what you're trying to
set up. We know what you're trying to do. But
he got all these ducks in the row. He trying
to cover his ground, so he been trying to negotiate
with him. They ain't playing the game when Cassie does
say it to file a lawsuit on Diddy. In November
of twenty and twenty three, Cassie ventured did his former
girlfriend filed a lawsuit accusing him of abuse, manipulation, and
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violence during the relationship. The case was settled in a day.
It took and went on fire, costed firestorms. He paid
a thirty million dollars, so that's one loss. Already lost
thirty ms to it. That's why he should have paid
her a t in upfront. See this all goes back
to you should have paid that t in upfront, kept
her quiet because they her off A first was ten,
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ten and ten and a grin and let me spend
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He ain't want to get.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
A ten ten turned into thirty and now all this
other shit. Losing all your companies, losing the ego, the
ten turned into thirty, the ego man pride come before
the fall.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But she did that in November. They raided his house
in March.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's about four months for them to get an indictment
to raid a billionaire's house.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So I knew then, Oh, when.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The fears do that to a billionaire, they not planning
he will be arrested. The collateral damage of paying her
triggers of the lawsuits from other individuals who were involved.
Two more ladies filed a lawsuit before. See, if you remember,
New York had a law that was about to expire,
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and so if you didn't take advantage of it before
a certain date, then you can no longer prosecute or
or hold the person that you're accused and liable for
whatever damages. And so two more lawsuits came out after that.
I knew he was going to be arrested, but this
is about to get interested, because they showed up to
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a hotel that he was staying and arrested him while
while the whole time his lawyer was trying to figure
out a way for him to surrender, because the lawyer
understands what surrendering looks like, and as of the court,
they weren't interested in that. Did He then went up
for bond. Let's take a look at one of the
news reports about what happened with his bond.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
This road and off the top of five thirty drenking
developments in the federal cast against Music Mobile Sean Diddy Combs.
After playing not guilty following his arrest in New York,
a judge rules no bond. Diddy has charged with rocketarian
conspiracy and sex trafficking. Good Evening, I'm Jim Berry.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
And I'm Lauren Pascona Nauja is on assignment.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Many details aren't stunning and maybe disturbing for some viewers
to hear servious news.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Miami's anima coounster is live in Miami Beach with one
on this explosive case, Anna Vaughn Jim Did He won't
be here at his Star Island home or any of
his properties for quite some time. According to investigators, they
found a wealth of evidence here in Miami and in
his LA homes back during those raids in March, and
according to prosecutors, they say that did he coerced his
victims to fulfill his sexual desires and to protect his reputation.
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Music Mobile Sean Diddy Combs now facing several serious federal charges.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Shawn Combs led and participated in a racket two conspiracy
that use the business empire he.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Controlled to carry out criminal activity.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Including sex trafficking, forced labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery, and the
obstruction of justice.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
The threecount indictment comes after numerous lawsuits accusing Didty of
sexual assault and battery, and months after the surveillance video
from twenty sixteen was released of him beating his former girlfriend, Cassie.
Speaker 10 (19:20):
Ventura in a Los Angeles hotel.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
In March, federal agents rated both Ditties Miami and Los
Angeles homes, and prosecutors say they found evidence of freakoffs
sex parties where victims were allegedly forced to participate.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They seize firearms and ammunition, including three defaced AR fifteens
and the large capacity drum magazine. They also seize evidence
of the free COFs, electronic devices that contain images and
videos of the freak COFs with multiple victims.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
The indictment goes on to state that investigators seized various
freak off supplies, including narcotics and more than one thousand
bottles of baby oil and lubricant. Ditty's aruliers say he
is innocent and argued that he should be released on
ball ahead of trial.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
Right now. Ditty is the only defendant listed in the
ending I would not.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Be surprised that if this case is ultimately resolved through plea,
a negotiated plea. While he's charged in a conspiracy, it's
interesting that there are no co conspirators that were named
in this indictment, which leads to his.
Speaker 11 (20:13):
Belief that there are a lot of cooperating witnesses.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
If the case goes to trial and Diddy has found guilty,
you could spend a minimum of fifteen years to a
maximum sentence of life in prison.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
A year ago, Shawn Combs stood in Times Square and
was handed a key to New York City. Today he's
been indicted and will face justice in the Southern District
of New York.
Speaker 9 (20:33):
And did these lawyers say that their client is innocent?
And again he is being held without bond for now reporting.
I'm from Star Island in Miami Beach. Adam McAllister, CBS News, Miami.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
The time is four thirty five Seawan Diddy comes is
during court this afternoon for baill hearing.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
The judge denied ball yesterday after.
Speaker 12 (20:49):
He pleted not guilty to federal racketeering and sex trafficking charges.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
Combs attorney offered a.
Speaker 12 (20:53):
Fifteen million dollar ball, but the judge said Colmbs is
a danger to witnesses and alleged victims. Combs is accused
of leading a criminal enterprise subjected women to sexual abuse, violence,
and coersion. His attorney cost the charges nonsensical.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
And this whole notion that mister Calms is forcing drugs
on someone is just nonsensical.
Speaker 13 (21:10):
There's not the slightest.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Inkling, according to the interviews that I've done, of anything
that's coursive, non consensual. Nobody was too drunk, nobody was
too high.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
Prosecutor say Combs manipulating women to participate in highly orchestrated
sex parties with now prostitutes called freak offs.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
He's facing twenty years on each of the three counts
he's charged with.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So did He's legal defense team put up a fifty
million dollar bond package that was denied, and that was
the initial bond appearance. Of course, there was an appeal
put in place that just took place. Literally, we're off
of breaking news. So did He's legal defense team put
up a fifty million dollar baill package that was denied
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on the initial bond appearance.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
That was the first one.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Of course, an appeal was in place, and we're fresh
off of breaking news from that appeal that the jail
judge also denied the appeal of the bond for Sean
Ditty Combs, as they added to the already fifty million
dollar bond package twenty four hour security, no visits from
any females outside the family, amongst other things that was
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also denied. The judge seemed to take favor with thinking
that Diddy would be obstructing as he had been contacting
witnesses after he knew he was being investigated. It looks
like two things are coming back to Hunt Diddy. One
the video I told you guys about. He shouldn't have never,
under any circumstances, responded to that video. He let his
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emotions put him in a trick bag. If he did
not respond to that video, his lawyer now would still
have a case to try to say. We still need
to figure out the validity of that video, Yana. We
don't know where that came from, how, what who that is,
what the room was it, what day was it. There's
a lot to look at as it pertains to that video,
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and it probably isn't the time to do that now.
But his admitting that he was quote unquote wrong in
that video is costing him right now, and it's so
bad because you would think the accountability and responsibility would
have some reward, and it does, but that reward is
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internal and at some point when you're playing, especially a
game with the system, keeping your mouth closed, it's always paramount.
So he's dealing with that video number one. Number two,
you're dealing with the obstruction of justice element that continues
to get his bond denied. What the government is a
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legend that he has done in the last paperwork that
they filed is fifty four text messages and or calls
to a witness someone that has been subpoena.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh argues that, no, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
She received the subpoena, reached out to him and that's
how that communication happened. Again, the gray area is where
the lawyer can dance at. With that video that was released,
it triggered something in him and made him put itself
in a trick bag. And I know when he came
out and apologized, the government was saying, thank you God,
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that was the parart that we need. Did he made
a couple of mistakes while this investigation was going on.
It's almost like he couldn't understand that the wolves were
at the gate. And boy, when the wolves at the gate,
you don't come outside eating no food and enticing the wolves.
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You try to starve them out, stall them out. You
don't come out there playing with the wolves. But they're
gonna They're gonna force Diddy to pull the curtain back
on not only hisself. Number one, Cassie's going under the bus.
And I say that respectfully.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I don't know. Cash.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
See, I'm doing my job. Cassie, You're going under the bus.
Oh man, you fit to hear some things about Cassie.
She may not never wanted nobody to hear if he
going down. The least he can do is he gonna
take her credibility with it.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
The dude she married to.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Gonna find some things out about her while this trial
is going on. That may be uncomfortable for a man
who didn't know this information.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
We're gonna watch this play out.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I think he has no way to make his defense
without dismantling the whole thing that he's built, the entire
freak off thing. He got a dismantle to defend hisself.
He gotta say, well, no, Cassie actually was the one
that one what she really likes to do, Yanna, in bed,
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she really wanted six dudes, if I'm just being honest, Yanna. Now,
let's get down to it, because they think I'm She
really wanted six men in there, Y'allna, she wanted you know,
he gonna gone down through that. They got it in jail.
Just picture what that's like. Number one, did it been
on drugs a long time? I always tell you all
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this because it's something that I know about getting off drugs.
When you go to jail, it's gonna be a hard
thirty sixty days, boy, especially for Diddy. He been doing
drugs a long time. Whenever they called him with drugs
in New York up at the spot like he he did,
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so the detop's gonna be so rough on him.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
That's one thing.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Also, like I spoke to months and months and months ago,
the lifestyle change that's required to survive in jail, the
drastic fall he has to take as it pertains to comfortability,
quality of living. Right, It's just gonna be a drastic change,
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and it's gonna be so fast. The disappointing news is
that Diddy is on day one of being indicted and
I'm almost certain that he's lost all faith in its attorney.
Now he's not saying that out loud. I don't know
how much money is tied up, but I know if
I'm Diddy in jail right now, I don't have no
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faith in what you told me for the last six months. See,
I could have ran, like I had the kind of money.
I could have ran to another spot and built it
up and flew people over when I wanted to see
folks and deal with women over there and just go
down in history as the guy that left and never
came back, made a bunch of money in hip hop
and just dipped it, never came back. But boy, you
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told me, it's a few things you told me to do.
I did those things and they didn't play out right.
I wanna take a look at this video. We're gonna
look at two videos here. Number one, We're gonna look
at this video right after the appeal for bond was denied. Again,
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we're fresh off breaking news. They just denied the appeal
of Sean P. Diddy Combs. They placed a fifty million
dollar bond package up with twenty four hour security, home confinement,
no visitors, spot test, and different elements to it that
the judge said was insufficient because Diddy has been obstructing
(28:36):
of justice and the video where he was violent to
Cassie in that hotel that we all saw. Let's listen
to what his lawyer says, as he's faced two defeats
in two days while he represents a billion dollar client
that he could not get bailed.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Let's pay attention.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
Awesome foll Yes there, everybody.
Speaker 12 (29:17):
So so we made a bail appeal to Judge Partner.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
It did not go all away. The fight continues. We're
not We're We're not. We're not giving up by a
long shot.
Speaker 13 (29:29):
I told mister Colmes, I'm.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Gonna trying to get his case of trial as quickly
as possible.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
I'm gonna try to minimize the amount of time spends
and be very very difficult.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
And I believe in your main housing conditions in the.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
In the special housing unit in the Metropolitan Attention facility.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
And I'm gonna do everything that I can to move
this case as quickly as possible.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I understand that the government has a great amount of
electronic devices that they have to download and provide to me,
but everything's on the government's timetable. Nothing's on the defendence timetable,
and we're gonna have to accommodate me and him and give.
Speaker 11 (30:00):
Us a foot trial, and I'm going to be pushing
for that.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
He's ready, he's focused, he has been ready to defend
this case since he first.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
Found out about this case.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Nothing has changed from his perspective.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I obviously would much prefer to fight this case with
him out of jail, and we.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
Are going to try to bring that about through additional
legal process.
Speaker 11 (30:21):
But wherever he is.
Speaker 13 (30:23):
Is resolves the same. He believes he's innocent.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
I believe he's innocent, and we're gonna fight this case
with all our might until we.
Speaker 13 (30:30):
Don't have to fight anymore.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
I'm not really going to take any questions, but at
this point we are.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
We are moving forward, we're preparing for trial as we speak,
and we are considering our next steps and appealing FORTUNI contay.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Thank you all very much, s appreciate it. What you
just listened to was Sean P.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Diddy Comb's legal team on the court steps following the
denial of P. Diddy's bond appeal. He had a fifty
million dollar package. As you heard what he said he's
gonna fight tooth and nail try to get this trial
happening as quick as possible. I imagine the government that
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won't did it or suffer and how do they do that?
They take their sweet time with all these cell phone downloads,
video downloads, and again, we don't know what's on this thing.
We don't know what's on this thing. I do think
that the government is gonna try a trick. That trick
is gonna be embarrassment. Not with Diddy, He's already embarrassed,
(31:30):
He's already in the can, he's already kind of on
the menu. I think they're gonna embarrass other people, and
so some of the other celebrities that may be on
some of these tapes, some of these videos, some of
these pictures, I think we're gonna see some of the
same behavior as we saw the Cassie tape make its
(31:51):
way to the public and hopes to trigger a reaction.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I think we see the same behavior with some of
these quote.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Unquote downloadable devices that the government has in their in
their hands at this time.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Because let's just say, for shits.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And giggles, that a video comes out with a female rapper,
and let's say she's in a compromising situation. Let's say
Diddy's there, maybe another guy's there, or maybe a girl's there,
or maybe there's just a scenario where there's video or
pictures that leak of another high profile celebrity that's gonna
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place them in a situation to defend themselves in a
way where they are taking some of the shame off.
Because when those lights are low and those drugs are going,
and everybody feeling good and the liquor is flowing and
there's a vibe, it's a different feeling in everybody looking
at their snock coming down your your nose, you know
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what I mean. You got your tears coming down your
eyes and fucking up your makeup and sit handling your
bed and it's like a true savage You don't really
want everybody seeing that, you know, it's really just for
Big Daddy to see. So again, I think they're gonna
try something like that. His lawyer seems to be ready
(33:10):
willing to fight this case.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
It seems like Diddy is steadfast on.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Look, I'm gonna fight this and I'm gonna embarrass Cassie
on my way.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I want to now take a look.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
At a video where Diddy's lawyer went on CNN, and
I think this is what we're gonna have. The crux
of our conversation today, Diddy's legal defense, which as of
now only see one lawyer being the forefront.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And there's no way one lawyer is gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Take on the federal government of the Southern District of
New York. I mean, he's gonna have to have a team.
I'm sure he has a team. Maybe he's just the
face of it. But I'm looking at one lawyer. He
goes on SEENN and he has what I say to
be a well informed conversation with a journalist and we're
(33:57):
gonna speak about it.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Let's take a look at that.
Speaker 14 (34:00):
So what prosecutors were arguing is, not only does your
client pose a flight risk because obviously he's incredibly wealthy,
he has access to planes and a lot of staff,
even though you said he turned over his passport two
months ago. They were also worried about him being able
to interfere with witnesses and calling them. And so I
guess the question is, how do you assure the court
that that won't happen. If if prosecutors are saying this
is someone who's attempted to bribe security staff and has
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already threatened and interfered with witnesses.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
So I think the most important thing, even more important
than the passport, is that mister Colbs came to New
York on September fifth, soon as we realized that this
indictment was going to be coming down in a matter
of weeks, maybe months.
Speaker 13 (34:32):
But sometime soon, mister Colms got on a plane, left
his home in.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Florida, flew to New York. I called the prosecutors myself.
I said, mister Colms is in New York. Do you
want to know where he is? If you want to
know where he is, I'll tell you where he is.
But he wants to surrender. He's here to surrender. They
didn't want him to surrender because if he surrenders, they
don't get to logize that he's a flight risk, and
he's a danger, because who as a danger on a
flight risk would fly to New York and surrender.
Speaker 13 (34:53):
So they didn't want him to surrender.
Speaker 14 (34:54):
So since September fifth, you had known, you expected it
was likely he was going to formally face charges.
Speaker 13 (35:00):
I really knew he was formally going to face charges.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
On March twenty fifth, the day of the searches, when
Homeland Security searched his Los Angeles home, his Miami home.
Speaker 13 (35:08):
And his airplane.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I knew that day by looking at the search warrants.
I mean, I've been doing this for a while. This
is not my first or one hundredth rodeo that this
was going to come as a matter of time. What
I realized in early September is that it was coming soon,
and so it was time for mister Colms to come
to New York, which he did. And we'll just point
out one very important thing that the prosecutors are seizing
on something that.
Speaker 13 (35:28):
Happened eight years ago. You know this video that we've all.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
Seen, and it's a bad video for mister Calms, and
he said so himself when he gave his apology. This
is eight years ago, and the prosecutors are talking about
him bribing a hotel security worker. There is no criminal investigation.
This was just a matter of personal embarrassment because he
and the person in the video were in the midst
of a ten year relationship. First or one hundredth rodeo
(35:53):
that this was going to come as a matter of time.
What I realized in early September is that it was
coming soon, and so it was time for mister Calms
to come to New York, which he I.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Think he said some interest in that. He said they
didn't want him to surrender. So then my mind started
to wonder, why wouldn't they want Diddy to surrender? Usually
a criminal, he's a billionaire, highly resourceful.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
He can make this hard for you guys.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
He's trying to cooperate, participate as it pertains, to turn
himself in, try not to make this a spectacle. This
tells me a couple of things, but we're gonna sit
here for a minute and deal with some of them.
It's crazy because Ditty's wealth, which was once his greatest shield,
is now becoming a target. So I agree with the lawyer.
They didn't entertain that because they didn't want it to
(36:40):
appear in court that he was cooperating and cooperative. But
to my mind wondered it said, yo, they want the assets.
And so this goes back to my point in what
Diddy may have lost a little faith in his legal
team is because I'm sure his legal team told him listen.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
A couple of different things.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Number one, wherever they raided in this case, any event
you take a deal, they're gonna want to seize those properties.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
That's one.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
So anywhere that they went in and found something or
they said you did freak offs on, they're gonna try
to seize that. So what did did he do? He
started to sell it. So before you seize it, I'm
gonna sell it now. Selling it makes the government say, what,
we need to hurry up because if these things are sold,
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we have no way to track that money down or
see exactly where that money went to. And it's a
different process to try to seize that money versus just
taking over these properties and that jet. So if you
noticed over the last couple of months, did he list
want that property on the West Coast that they raided.
(37:50):
I think he listed it for upwards of fifty million dollars.
Quiet has kept he had he had also listed his jet.
Now while doing so, his lawyer is in constant communication,
one way communication with the government and he's kind of
updating them on what's going on. Hey, mister Combs has
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received the letter of intent to byas jet. We've had
three buyers. They didn't pan out. You know, all of
these different plans to get rid of the jet. And
while he thinks that's building trust with the government, I
believe this is me and I'm no legal expert a lawyer,
but I believe that that just made the government press
(38:35):
the gas, knowing that if he gets rid of all
the properties and take a deal, we have nothing to seize.
If he gets rid of that jet and the properties,
he's just sitting there with a guilty plea. He gets out,
he's still almost a billionaire. And so if y'all out there,
and y'all doing anything outside of the confines of the
law to try to survive or call it yourself outside
(38:59):
in the street, you better ask your homeboy how he
got a federal barn. We'll get to that later, because
we got Diddy and now he's a billion dollar guy,
and they won't budge. We gotta figure out what the
criteria is like. You got to ask your homeboy how
you get their bond. But bonds are hard to get
in the federal system because usually when they come and
(39:21):
get you, or they knock on your door, the wolves
at the gate and they're closing in.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Let's look at it a little more.
Speaker 13 (39:28):
It was time for mister Carmson to come to New
York which he did.
Speaker 8 (39:30):
And let me just point out one very important thing
that the prosecutors are seizing on something that happened eight
years ago.
Speaker 13 (39:36):
You know this video that we've all.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
Seen, and it's a bad video for mister Carminson.
Speaker 13 (39:40):
He said so himself when when he gave his apology.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
This is eight years ago and the prosecutors are talking
about him bribing a hotel security worker.
Speaker 13 (39:48):
There was no criminal investigation.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
This was just a matter of personal embarrassment because he
and the person in the video were in the midst
of a ten year relationship that was difficult.
Speaker 13 (39:58):
At times, that was toxic at times, but it was
mutually so.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
And this whole notion that mister Colmbs is forcing drugs
on someone is just nonsensical and it's can prove to
not be true.
Speaker 14 (40:07):
Well on in that video, he initially denied the allegations
when his then girlfriend who was in that video filed
a lawsuit last fall and we had that video.
Speaker 7 (40:15):
I should note CNN was the first shallot to exclusive
report on it.
Speaker 14 (40:18):
He denied that that happened when she filed it in
a complaint, and then when the video came out is
when he apologized for it.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
So I wasn't his lawyer back then, So I don't
and I don't think he denied. I mean, I think
the lawyers were the ones mostly making the denials. I
think they were denying sex crimes. I mean because at
the end of the day, the gravimen of that civil
complaint wasn't a misdemeanor assault, which is what you see
on that video, not minimizing it, but it's a misdemeanor assault.
Speaker 13 (40:41):
What the graviman of the complaint was was sex crimes.
And he denied that and he still.
Speaker 14 (40:44):
Does well, and you're saying that this is all just
about that one relationship, But when you read through the indictment,
they say that there's not just one victim.
Speaker 7 (40:50):
They say there's multiple victims here today.
Speaker 14 (40:52):
And what I heard described was they said they have
fifty witnesses or victims.
Speaker 13 (40:56):
Yeah, I think it's forty nine witnesses and one victim.
Speaker 8 (40:58):
I think if you broke it down, and I say
that because count two, which is a sex traft account,
has victim number one, and there is no victim number
two anywhere in the indictment.
Speaker 14 (41:06):
So you're saying that there are not other women because
what they were essentially arguing here is that he coerced
enforced women into sex acts by using physical force, financial pressure,
emotional abuse, and narcotics for what they described as these
freak off sessions. They saying that he self described them
as that.
Speaker 13 (41:19):
Yeah, there's there's one victim in an indictment.
Speaker 8 (41:21):
That the charging doctor wive does count right, No, no, of course,
But I'm just saying it's not fifty. I mean, what
they did is a little too cute. Is it's fifty
witnesses or victims? Well, it's one victim, that's all that's
in the endome.
Speaker 14 (41:31):
All reporter who was in the courtroom today, said that
he appeared to have a stunned expression on his face.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
Was he surprised that he was arrested last night, No.
Speaker 13 (41:38):
He definitely was not.
Speaker 8 (41:39):
I mean I told him myself in early September, you
are going to be arrested soon and you're going to
be charged with racketeering and you can charged with sex trafficking,
so come to New York. It wasn't a long conversation,
he agreed, So we knew this was coming, and in fact,
we offered that he would turn himself in.
Speaker 14 (41:52):
So if there are these these witnesses and victims, and
you're saying that you believe it's one one victim in
forty nine witnesses who saw this behavior. That's pretty powerful though,
to have that many people who have if they go
to court and argue that they that they witnessed this
behavior by your client, well defensive.
Speaker 13 (42:09):
So my defense is very well established.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
I interviewed myself the different men who were being brought
sort of into mister calms and this person's, you know,
intimate situation.
Speaker 13 (42:21):
I've fled around the country. I've interviewed a large number
of them.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
There's not the slightest inkling, according to the interviews that
I've done, of anything that's coercive, non consensual. Nobody was
too drunk, nobody was too high. These were adults in
a relationship. This is a ten year relationship. We can't
forget that this is a ten year relationship and it
was adults and consensual, and everybody who was there wanted
to be there.
Speaker 13 (42:40):
So I feel very confident in position.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
You said you interviewed the men, but what about the women.
Speaker 10 (42:45):
I have an interviewed.
Speaker 13 (42:45):
The women's not available to me.
Speaker 8 (42:47):
She's presumably a grand jury witness, and we would not
we cannot try to interview grantury.
Speaker 14 (42:53):
Witness and you don't think that there are any other
women who are going to say that they were coerced
into this given drugs and essentially as probably secutors were
saying that that's what kept them compliant.
Speaker 13 (43:02):
So there are a lot of women in these civil cases.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
There's been a mountain of civil cases ever since the
civil case that was filed in November.
Speaker 13 (43:09):
I don't see them as victims in the indictment. That's
my point.
Speaker 14 (43:13):
And so when you talk about that that video of
Cassie Ventura, that was his then girlfriend in the video,
I mean, just when you saw that, you said it's
a bad video.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
It's pretty difficult to why.
Speaker 13 (43:22):
It is no question. So let me let me tell you.
Speaker 7 (43:24):
What he will that be used as evidence in court?
Speaker 13 (43:26):
Do you think one hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
So?
Speaker 8 (43:28):
What I said in court today, and I'll say it
again here is the two of them were in a hotel.
It was just the two of them in a hotel room.
She found out that he was seeing someone else. She
was going through his phone. She hit him in the
head with his with his own phone, and then she
walks into the into the hallway with two bags, one
of the bags has all of his clothing speaking from him,
which is why he runs out in a towel. So
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this isn't her fleeing from one of these freak offs.
Why would she take his clothing? That's not what it is.
And when the evidence comes out, this is going to
be completely different than the Garden's portrayed it.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
But on this video, here's why I want to have
the conversation.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I think we have some opportunity to speak to Diddy's
legal team. My question would be, number one, of these narratives,
you gotta be careful how some of these stories cross over. Right,
So when he's speaking to the video, you hear Diddy's
attorney say, well, you're dealing with two people who were
(44:24):
in a ten year relationship and at that point she
was upset due to infidelity. They were very toxic. Some
things happened, She ran out the room, and then the
video you see with him doing the despicable things he
did by striking her and pulling and throwing a vase
at her at that hotel lobby. A couple centers after that,
(44:45):
the lawyer said something that, in my opinion, kind of
contradicts the last sentence.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
He said that she was.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Upset about infidelity, which caused this toxic situation that resulted
in the video that he tried to pay fifty one
thousand dollars for.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Keep that in your mind.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So she reacted in a way that caused her to
fight him and be upset that he was dealing with
another girl. The lawyer recognizes that on this end, and
then on the other end, he says they were not
even in a relationship. When the evidence comes out, you're
gonna see that she lived alone and she was always
(45:24):
by herself. All right, cool, set that to the side.
He also said that both people were participating parties in
these freak offs where other men were involved. Where how
can the same woman who is upset about infidelity be
okay with sharing sexual acts?
Speaker 12 (45:44):
Right?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
It just doesn't seem like that behavior can be explained
in the court in a way where Jerry can understand.
So you're saying the same lady that was quote unquote
upset that You're saying she was upset that caused her
to react in a way that start violence and have
him run out of a hotel. He can't say he
was in a shower, he had socks on. You don't
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know what socks in a shower. That's the first thing
I said. His body wasn't dripping wet. He's literally just
naked a towel in socks on. So he couldn't say
I heard her leaving when I was in the shower,
ran out chased that she was stealing. He couldn't have
said that. Now we know some niggas do get it
in with them socks on. Nigga go to hitting it
(46:27):
with them socks on, y'all. Nigga still got them socks
on drilling that. Yeah, so he had his socks on.
How on one end, you could say she's upset with
sharing and that's the reason she was leaving and for
the toxic situation that led to the video of him
assaulting her. But then on the other end, she's a
willing participant of sharing. Are you saying she said sometimes
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when she wants. It's gonna be hard for the jeury
to understand that. And the lawyer is treading on that line.
But you see what he's about to do. He's about
to say, Cassie, you gotta think if Cat she is
a witness and she gets on that stand, that lawyer
is gonna drill her and once he catch you in
the lie, you're done. So he gonna ask us some
shit that only her And did he know you like
(47:13):
for him to shit on your chest? Has mister Combs
ever shitted in your mouth?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
You know why?
Speaker 1 (47:20):
She understand? And that's relevant. We're talking freak offs. Did
you like for your mouth to be shut in? You
know they're gonna be up there doing it like that,
and it's gonna be unfortunate, But that's the games that
the lawyers play in the courtroom. I am interested in
if there is a superseding indictment that's gonna come because
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if it's only one victim and it's only one person
indicted on a racketeering charge, that's kind of unheard of
because racketeering and they're speaking.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
About this enterprise talk.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
What I truly believe them about to try to do
is before they announced the superseding indictment, they're gonna try
to now because they have him in custody, reach out
to the people who they're saying he's working with.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Hey, this is your chance to tell us everything and
work with us. He's done.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
And you're about to be indicted and you'll be done
as well, we're gonna paint you at someone that did
all of.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
His dirty work.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
So if he can't get out, you definitely can't get
out because he don't really know how to hide stuff.
You're the person that knows how to sneak in and
sneak out and deliver drugs and this and that, and
they're gonna paint it that way in court. So I
believe the reason why you only see one person in
this rico indictment on the Combs Enterprise, which is a
(48:39):
real company by the way, it's because they're about to
approach them now while he's in jail and give them
an opportunity to flip.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
Let's look at a little more of this video.
Speaker 13 (48:51):
So why would you take his clothing?
Speaker 8 (48:53):
That's not what it is. And when the evidence comes out,
this is going to be completely different than the government's
portrayed it.
Speaker 14 (48:58):
But on this video, I just want to show that again. Now,
how did you defend against allegations that he hit, kicked,
and dragged women when he's on video hitting, kicking, and
dragging a woman.
Speaker 8 (49:09):
He's not charged with hitting, kicking, and dragging. Well, he's
charged with sex trafficking. I mean, he didn't traffic anybody.
Speaker 14 (49:13):
But he's charged with a conspiracy here where he was
using physical abuse, emotional abuse, financial pressure, as prosecutors alleged
to keep these women in his fold, maybe just Cassie Venturua,
but keeping these women in the fold.
Speaker 8 (49:26):
Cassie Ventura lived by herself, she had her own house,
she had a family, she had a career, and he
was seeing another woman at the time.
Speaker 13 (49:34):
He wasn't around a lot. She could have done whatever
she wanted to do.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
All of these allegations of oh I was forced, I
was coursed, I had to say, are nonsense and it's
going to be proven to be.
Speaker 14 (49:42):
So that video in the indictment, it alleges that your
client paid hotel staff fifty thousand dollars to make it
disappear from the hotel surveillance system.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Did he pay off the hotel staff.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Not that I know of.
Speaker 13 (49:53):
I know that's an allegation, I don't know that that
is true.
Speaker 8 (49:57):
What I was concerned about when I heard about this
allegation is whether there's an allegation that there was some
sort of law enforcement investigation pending, because then that would
be a crime. But there was none, and so this
is not a crime you talked about.
Speaker 14 (50:08):
You said, you're portraying this as adults who were at
these events that wanted to be I shouldn't even call
them events. That's not certainly how it's anyone else would
would label it, but that they wanted to be there.
But they also alleged that they were recorded and essentially
used as blackmail.
Speaker 7 (50:22):
Is that not true?
Speaker 13 (50:22):
That's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
How can you prove that.
Speaker 14 (50:24):
When they have electronic evidence as they argue over ninety
cell phones, laptops I called storage accounts, thirty electronic and
storage devices, hard drives, thumb drives.
Speaker 7 (50:33):
They're not worried about that.
Speaker 13 (50:34):
Nope, because if they had it, they were to pretent
the indictment.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Budd it sound confident and I ain't gonna lie, but
it sounded like and that's true. If they had it,
they were to put it in the indictment, if you're
asking me, unless they have a superseding indictment coming, I
don't know a couple of things here though, is I
think the lawyer has to start being start getting prepared
if he's not already prepared on how he's gonna have
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a jury understand one end, you're saying he's upset and
toxic because he's seeing another woman. And then on the
other end, you're saying she enjoys for them to share
because a regular person isn't gonna understand that, right. I
think about my mother and people in her age bracket.
When the Diddy stuff first popped off. The question they
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had was Diddy seems possessive. How does it make sense
that everyone is saying that if you mess with Cassie
he would be very upset, threaten you. I almost want
to fight you for looking at her being around or
don't talk to her. He was very over possessive of
Cassie on one end, but on the other end, he
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want dudes to come in and beat her brains in.
I was talking to one of my little freak home
girls and she was telling me, now what happens is
after the dude come beat the brains in in front
of you, you gotta go gorilla and reclaim the pool
that I said, How they going they going? I said,
how they going?
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Pray? Are they going animal kingdom? Like this right here?
Speaker 1 (52:05):
She said, Man, listen, if somebody is in that lifestyle
and then they allow somebody to come and have sex
with their girl in front of them.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
They encouraged them.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
To give her the best six that they can and
then their job is to reclaim the pool nanny and
try to top that. And I'm like, oh, so it's
to they doing some kind of competition.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
I don't know, but I just think he's going to
have a hard time explaining that to the jury. It
also was presented to the public that they were originally
going to arrest Diddy on a different date and they
decided to close in on September seventeenth of twenty twenty four.
The reason being was still all speculation. Come to find
(52:54):
out again, the one way communication from Diddy's lawyer to
the government the Southern District of New York was trying
to let them know his whereabouts and keeping him away
from the jet. Again, they're anticipating him being indicted. Once
he's indicted, they're looking forward to say, Yanna, look at
(53:16):
the behavior we've presented. We think one of the things
that they were doing to try to uphold their standard
was keeping him away from his private jets.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
So he would just charter a jet.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
How you'll go and get a ticket to get your
to get on the flight on the airplane instead of
using his own jet. He would just take a jet
in that fashion. So the jet had been in LA
for a long time. Diddy, according to his lawyer, September fifth,
came on up to New York anticipating him being indicted.
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While in New York, the people who he had controlling
the jet and outsourcing and booking the jet form unbeknownst
to Diddy, according to people surrounding him, had that jet
land in New Jersey while he was in New York.
What that said to investigators or the federal government is
(54:12):
that he is now too close to his private jet.
Maybe he's gonna make a run for it. This is
the speculation as to why they went ahead and made
the arrest prior to the scheduled date. I want to
say I do want to flirt with that and have
a conversation about that, but I also still want to
talk about offload knows assets, will offload nos assets. I
(54:34):
think it triggered them to say, yo, let's get him now.
Also before he dumps two hundred million dollars worth of
stuff like that's supposed to be our stuff, we coming
to get some of that. Did his confidence in his
legal team is wavering. If you're asking me, because I'm
sure he had conversation with his lawyer that says, Yo,
this wouldn't happen.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
You're gonna get a bond.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Listen, give us your passport, all the checks, just's check
all these boxes.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
This is gonna get you a bond. Man.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
These are the things you need to do. Stay away
from the private jet. Turn yourself in, but they didn't
allow it. Don't have any run ins, don't look upset,
don't respond anymore on tweeting anything. Just go low profile,
try to stay out of the way, and we should
be able to get you a bond. I think they
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overestimated the government's willingness to negotiate because the government didn't
budge at all.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
They denied them again, they did not budge.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Also seen a couple of newspapers have some incorrect articles
running about how maybe they were underage people involved. I
didn't see those. If someone out there has those, present
those to the public so we can have a look
at them. I didn't see anything about anybody under age.
The only thing that was going on in my mind
(55:53):
if anything is like wondering if like one of the
sons may have been dealing with girls that was eighteen,
or at least telling them that eighteen, maybe lying about
their age, and what kind of lifestyle what they living.
Let's just say, what if they were sharing girls. What
if Diddy a center thirty four year old in there
(56:15):
on his twenty two year old, that's still cool.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
What if it's.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Swap around and the sun tried to send an eighteen
year old in there to his fifty one year old daddy.
Come to find out, she ain't twenty one, she's seventeen.
She just went and got lip fillers and all of
that are all young. She's nineteen, she eighteen. You see
what I'm saying. It can get slippery, man. I know
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one thing, all y'all little nigga with them penitentiary stories,
gonna put them up.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
Put your penitentiary stories up, you.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Know, all you niggas with them rous of a thousand
stories in the nigga Diddy coming in there, he coming
in there to lay it out some of the stories. Yeah, nah,
he been living a billion their lifestyle. I was with yeah, now,
I was with Barack Obama one time.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
Right. You know how niggas don't got nothing to do
in there.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
They go to talking, and everybody has been They be
living off what they did when they was out there,
how they were balling.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
I'm gonna get back to it, boy, shut it down.
When did it hit the building?
Speaker 1 (57:18):
This is a nigga that been riding private the last
twenty years. He having storage on top of storage. Jail house,
the jail house Netflick's mine. But I don't think he
gonna be able to survive in jail man. It's gonna
be rough on him in now. He ain't got the
kind of you know, he been out here too long,
balling for way too long to live in those conditions
(57:40):
and just let it ride out. You know what I'm saying.
Somebody gonna have to help me understand why they believe
he gonna be able to hold that down. You better
pay attention to the system so crazy that if you don't
got no money, they use that against you. But if
you got too much money, they use that against you.
So if you go up for a bond with no money,
they gonna say, man, well, Yannah, he's a criminal. He's
(58:03):
going to a low, low poverty, stricten environment. You know,
we can't guarantee that he won't be right back involved
look where he's going. You don't really have any transportation,
so he's gonna be stuck over there. We can't promise
that he's gonna be able to even make it to
his classes. We want to keep him in caught like
they're gonna argue that if you don't have the money.
(58:23):
Then on the other end, they're gonna argue it if
you have a bunch of money, Yanna, We're not gonna
be able to let him out. We think he's a
flight risk. He's just too powerful. He has way too
much money. I mean, he is the kind of he
has the kind of money where he can influence people
to do things. Did he done this to himself by
reaching out to all these people? But he panicking. He panicking.
(58:44):
He see the wolves is at the gate, and if
all us fails, the snake gonna have to eat his tail.
He's gonna have to start exposing shit to to He
gonna have to start exposing how people wanted things and
what they want. It does desious that he was fulfilling desires.
(59:05):
He wasn't chasing after nothing. He was fulfilling desires. So,
as of right now, Diddy has been arrested, He has
been denied bond not once, but twice, meaning he will
be in jail and to trial starts. His lawyer is
fighting for a speedy trial and trying to get Ditty
in a position to prove his innocence. According to his lawyer,
(59:29):
Diddy is saying that missus Ventor was not a victim.
She was a volunteer. And I think that what we'll
find out in this trial is from Diddy's perspectives, some
of the things that Cassie may have requested, some of
the things that he may have called blackmail that Cassie
has distributed his way, and some of the other findings
(59:52):
that their relationship was not just as one sided as
people believe.
Speaker 3 (59:57):
I think that's Diddy's position. But as a right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Now, he'll be in jail, he'll be eating food with
the inmates, and he will not be going home to
his fifty thousand square foot house that is almost like
a hospital, and we will watch this unfold, but as
of right now, that's where we stand.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
It's up the podcast. I appreciate you all locked in
with the boy skid It