Pt 2: How No Jumper & Wack 100 Clips Buried Big U & Brick Baby | Akademiks Calls Street Dudes Dumb! - ITS UP THERE PODCAST W/LOONEY

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
So we had part two of the Big U indictment
that also involves a couple of hosts from No Jumper,
and we're just going to kind of continue to go
down the road of trying to understand how we got
to where we are now. I do want to say this,
there's so many layers in this there's no way I
can go over it in this podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I would probably have to do a documentary really.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Sitting down with someone and come up with some actual
talking points and professionally put it together. But for the
sake of the podcast, we want to kind of just
deal with the hot topics of what's going on, hopefully
leave some game next to some of this shit. But
as we were speaking about Whack one hundred and brick

(00:47):
Baby found themselves several times having public discord about private matters.
And so I like to tell young people who get money,
who hustle us entrepreneurs who may have been weak and
emotionally triggered and rage baited at different points in their life,
that you can no longer do that. When you get

(01:08):
in position that you've been asking God to bless you for,
you can no longer respond like you used to. I
tell people you don't get the same version of me
if God has blessed me on this level, so you're
not gonna be able to give people the same version
of you. I would have smacked you for that, But
now I'm gonna pray for you. I'm gonna pray for
you as long as you don't harm me and hurt

(01:29):
nobody I love. But outside of that, I'm gonna stay
away from you and pray for you. My energy is hiding,
my frequency is high, and I'm trying to get some money,
so I don't want nobody drawing me into this back
and forth bulld shit like I would think that even
if I've done this for a month, two months, there's
no way you're gonna have me going back and forth
with you for three years straight. That's not gonna happen.

(01:54):
We gonna crash or something. We're gonna see each other
like three years straight and you just keep get to
do that. Ain't gonna be able to do it like that.
We ain't gonna be able to do it like that.
I also know if you in big U situation, it
come with a lot of power. Like see, some of
y'all don't know what it's like to control the ugly
coner like that shit come with some power. A lot

(02:15):
of them big homing nigs be abusing that shit. And
I'm not saying big you dumb, but a lot of
be abusing the little homits. They big overcharging them for shit,
like they just kind of be rough on them because
they know they look at them a certain way and
they need them and validation exists on their stem and
so they utilize that as a tool. Now, I don't

(02:37):
want to completely push back on making it check in
and texting. For shooting videos in the neighborhood, you gotta
go get a permit from the state to shoot the video,
and they don't. They don't got nothing to do with
the video, but they make some money. If I'm coming
to shoot the video in this area, tell me why
that is. We'll get to that later. I also think
it's interesting if we really want to drill it down

(02:59):
and say, Yo, what really does gang intervention look like?
Big U has been arrested and the allegations are that,
you know, he was extorting people and basically it was
under the guys that Yo, if something happened to you,
I'll get your money back and you don't got to
pay me no more? Well, what is gang intervention? What
happens when someone takes something from you and I can

(03:21):
go get it. Am I supposed to do that for free?
And I'm supposed to go put me and my family
homes way for free? They done took seventy thousand from
this nigga, and I'm finna send a couple.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Of niggas that'll make that right? Is that supposed to
be for free?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
When they saying that he would set people up, that's
a totally different thing. But we're just talking about what
does gang intervention look like when we deal with some
of the more violent neighborhoods in America? Like, what does
it really look like? I think we have to have
a real conversation, right, you have to have people who
had walked that path to even have the respect to

(03:57):
have their words honored in a way that the need
to be for them to even be effective.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's number one.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Then number two, you have to also deal with what
does it look like like practical, not in the boardroom,
not on the paperwork, Like, what does it look like
when something has just happened Little Ronnie just shot little
Tony and now somebody got a step involved. Unfortunately, for
black people, you gotta rule with an iron fist, and
that's unfortunate. But you gotta be hard on black folks.

(04:25):
They gotta know violence is on the table at all time.
If they don't know that, they don't move right. You
will see a niggack a certain way to the police
show up because he knowed violence and jail is on
the table. I'm still amazed that Big You turned yourself in.
That still is like, that still has me flabbergas that

(04:46):
I'm floored at the fact that he went and turned
hisself in. I mean again, that speaks volumes. Big You
had his seat belt on in the video while he
was a fugitive. Come on, now, Big you had a
seat belt on in the video when he was a fugitive.
They calling him a fugitive. He talking on the thing

(05:07):
with a seat belt on. Man, listen, turning itself in,
you know, I mean, I guess that's the right thing
to do if someone in the neighborhood had this platform.
Because we're about to look at no jumper as they
speak about the Big U indictment involving brick Baby. I

(05:28):
haven't put a name on it yet. But that's a
feeling associated with how no Jumper and Adam I think
how he responds to these kind of events. That's something
that that feels sticky. It just it doesn't feel the best.
Let's take a look at a discussion that Academics was

(05:50):
having with Whack one hundred, because Academics is kind of
saying the same thing I'm seeing where it's like, Yo,
you drilled this narrative into the ground for three years
going at be you.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Let's pay attention to what academic.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Said created crush groove. We created that. I had contracts
with Nick Masters, the Live Nation. I would cut big
U in so broke it eat because we were showing
him how to hustle in the industry.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Or he left. He wasn't in the industry.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
It was key to rock from six to oh it
was it was SMAC from six sold the industry.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Guys right, there was no big U.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
So when he came home, we embraced him, set him
at the table, and we plugged him everywhere. This is
why when I stepped away from him, all the industry
went away from him.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
You really feel like that that's a fact. Everybody go
to twenty twenty one. I feel like a lot of
people think it was the inverse of that. I know
a lot of people stopped going with you.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Oh me, our plugs ain't stopped. You know.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
That definitely felt like you became a lot more controversial
in the industry.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, but see Adam right here is you're confusing it.
You're confusing the business with the popularity. His popularity went down,
but his infrastrutuction, his business, it's probably stayed in tech.
And that's kind of what I've been speaking on. When
I say Whack one hundred lost seventy percent of itself by.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Effectively getting Big U.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Out the paint, I'm not necessarily speaking about his business.
I'm speaking about his popularity, his respect, the avenues that
were available for him to do business. And it wasn't
just Big You. It was this whole power up that
he had to do to face Big You. He had
the power up, but he ruined a lot of relationships

(07:33):
along the way, changing his whole business structure and his
approach in the market. Like we talk about twenty one Savage,
we talk about like you can name fifteen different that clubhouse.
Whack one hundred got him on Clubhouse they had some
kind of relationship prior to that, and it blew up
on clubhouse and it's just that on that and so

(07:54):
Whack one hundred had to reinvent himself in a way
to be able to have this public discourse against Big U.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
And it was effective. Pay attention because of what?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Because of you?

Speaker 7 (08:13):
I'm gonna take it as.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
I was always bro.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
He had no contracts, right, it's only artist that gotta
deal me in Game got him the deal.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
He screwed it up, right.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
You got a dude to struggling to try to keep
his home from getting tooken and all this other crazy stuff.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Wat was af DJK Schlake. That's me.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
We put him with t I Smac Plug on my
artists on my side. When he needed scooty bikes for
the kids giveaway? Who supplied?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Could you get game to promote my football league? Who
got that done?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Right? Yo? Could you help me get nip go on
towards Who got that done?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Let's talk about it like bro, he has no real
connects in the industry.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think here's a good question for Whack one hundred.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
If we're gonna believe all of the paperwork and some
of the tactics that they say Big U utilizes on people.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Because if we're taking the fears at.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Their word, no donation is genuine, no move that's being
made on behalf of Big U is genuine. There's a
lot of extortion going on. There's a lot of bullying
going on. So my question to Whack is, when you
list off a lot of these things that you've done
for Big.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
You, what.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Was it ever a feeling of extortion? The Big You
ever hit you with the yeah, make it happen. You
see what I'm saying, because you you name off a
lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
You've done for him.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know, you bought the kids this, you send money there,
you got the even to perform here. I send it like,
that's a lot of work being done. And if we're
taking the fears at what they say, Big You making
it do work. So I guess that's a question I
leave out to the internet. Let's pay attention to some more.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Zero And You've always kind of been resentful of the
fact that people treat him as if he's kind of
on your line.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm not resentful that he ain't got more money than me.
He ain't got no play, he has no plaques, he
don't have no resources.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
He has no Stamford. What he was talking about.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Different like, I mean, it ain't my level with no
damnit music industry. White's like one of the most.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
I mean, Big You hasn't had successes in the entertainment world.
People act like he does, but put it around it.
He just like one documentary style show that was my show.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
I gave it to him. They begged me for eighteen months.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
That's the homie from Compy Paul Rugs show, Jim Bob.
Jim Bob came to me for eighteen months, him and
the run of the writers for Power begging me to
do it. I didn't want to do it, no disrespect
because I didn't want the segment to end with music
with me always told myself, when I do that type
of style thing, I want to have my other thing

(11:09):
going on right, which like now I can do it
because it's going on right.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
But I said, Jim, but I no disrespect. That's a cheat, homie.
But I said, go have Big You do it. He
eat it up. He's looking for the life.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
But wait, let me ask you a couple questions because
I gonna lie. It was reading through the entire indictment.
I was fucking flabbergast of just how accurate. And I'm
not gonna lie. You said these things. And all these
guys that you're in They're like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 9 (11:34):
What?

Speaker 7 (11:34):
Akks? What this nig I'm reading through this shit. I'm like,
this wack is on the money.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
June twenty, twenty twenty three, he got how do you
find out about that?

Speaker 10 (11:43):
Though?

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Okay, I'm gonna keep it one honey, Could I tell
how I found out about it?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Whatever you want to say.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Okay, a certain person's wife is intimate with a par root.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
You know what? The truth par root dead homies when
I come off with our facetoped.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
But that's how you really found out.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
When he went to jail, she called her significant others.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I think it was like an ex boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Ain't no, no, no, ain't no ex boyfriend, because I
know my homeboy and I know his situation.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's Little John's Hodie. Little John know I'm talking about.
He's a very well known dude. He's tied to a
bunch of people, right. So when he went I get
the call, he said, hey, you know that boy called up?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Said who that?

Speaker 7 (12:30):
Whoop?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I said, how you know, he said, you know, I said, oh, okay,
you said, he said, I'm an send you this info.
They come in, they catch him with a K. She
gonna know because she at home. They catch him with
a k. This is how I knew. This is why
when Brick was saying in one of these rooms having
a tantrum, I don't know how cos be knowing he
don't support these shit. That's because you got a leak

(12:54):
in your water bed. I don't wake up and say
I the danky while he was still in there umb
old club.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
House saying it.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Gonna lie.

Speaker 11 (13:07):
Man.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
I called the date. I called the date the year.
I told you what caliber.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
It makes it?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know?

Speaker 7 (13:15):
Actually I got a question for Adam on.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
Because, like even reading the whole thing, and this is
what they call the Big U Enterprise, And even when
brick Baby comes up here to work, even certain conversations
being allowed on this platform do here pull you to aside,
Like again not saying that it would be the cause
of it, but it's exascerbating it, right, So adding context,
like all the time y'all are come in here, and

(13:39):
y'all a literally y'all expect I mean, there's a part
where they're like, hey, we knew this, but then on
the note Jumper podcast they corroborated it, and I'm.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
Like, no, definitely, And just because I have it pulled up,
I really want to just play this one clip that
has been going kind of viral that's like generally.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
See even this, right, Adam, I'm coming up there, but
even this, this nasty behavior. It's a room full of
it that don't know this is nasty behavior. Now granted
it's already out, He's gonna proceed the play a clip

(14:18):
of Loose Cannon basically incriminating Big U on this platform.
Even academics is saying, bro, you're still doing this right,
So we gonna get to the business behind all of this,
because I think people really have this distance between people
understanding exactly why things happen and what's happening. So it

(14:41):
can get blurry because so many people are profiting off
this shit. You got so many different narratives coming out
to defend it.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
But the truth is the truth.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
When you get these gang bangers talking like this on
these platforms, there's inevitable consequence. What happens is a lot
of these individuals like Adam academics whack and they know
these dudes do not understand delayed consequence. They don't get it,
and so they play real close to the sideline, real

(15:12):
close to the sideline. They're flying real close to the sun, right,
And so we're gonna continue to watch Adam twenty two.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Pay attention.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
It considered to be like the most federal clip that
anybody on the podcast has ever had. This is Louis Cannon.

Speaker 12 (15:29):
Basically, it's like cuz he'll be like here, he's talking
about things like we're going into something, and it's saying
that we do it too.

Speaker 13 (15:41):
Show up to the house like ten minutes later when
we trying to you know, counting.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
Everything right, and we were like, how.

Speaker 13 (15:51):
Just give him like forty thousand dollars back and stuff
like that.

Speaker 9 (15:53):
But Cousins actually putting us in.

Speaker 13 (15:56):
Paperwork, right and like doing like real police shit. I've
seen it get like twenty guns. And when he got
twenty guns, he's selling them to the hommies. But he
I'm like, why are you writing down the serial numbers?

Speaker 9 (16:07):
So it's like he was doing like.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
You see whacking Adam. You see whacking academics laughing. They
know they got in the trick bag, look at him.
They know they got in the trick bag, watched it.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
I'm like, why are you writing down to serial numbers?

Speaker 13 (16:22):
So it's like he was doing like shit like that
and I didn't catch on. So it was like, I'm
waking up.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Man.

Speaker 11 (16:28):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Because I'm his.

Speaker 11 (16:31):
Right hand man.

Speaker 9 (16:32):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (16:33):
So when it came down to like dirt and stuff
like that, I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Do you get what I'm saying?

Speaker 6 (16:38):
And then like people are pretty sad because almost that
exact thing is listed and don't.

Speaker 7 (16:44):
Let me go back to what you actually conversation.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, this is why when Louce Cannon was calling me
about with six hundred was doing, I'm looking at the
phone like you can't be serious.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Six hundred then made a video with him saying.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
What he was saying two seconds later and put that,
so you're called me about what six hundred saying, Brody,
how you forgot the things you're saying?

Speaker 7 (17:12):
So basically, though they both was a man that they
were saying police shit.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Six hundred wasn't saying police shit because.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
He was trying to contradict you.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Was trying to say six hundred was reporting what was
on internet. That was on the internet.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
That's his own person on that story that he lived.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I know how to protect my team. How did you
get to the internet. I made sure it went to
the proper stages of getting into internet. I ran a
club house room, I played snippets, hap, I media team,
tape it, take a clip it, send it to YouTube,
and I sent you six hundred.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Now you can talk about it. It's on the internet.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
So wack when you hear a story, there's a loose
saying shit like that.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
So you didn't have that ain't my business?

Speaker 8 (17:48):
No, But you didn't have any clue that he could
be caught up in his reco or anything that was
going on.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Would I have? I had no idea.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
I think Lewis thought I.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
Had thinks it was two three years ago, like like,
oh he got twenty guns. It's like it just sounds
like he's talking bullshit. But when the Feds are actually
able to put the case together and show that this
is the type of thing they're actually doing, all of
a sudden, these podcast very important.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You know what they're in that when he says, really's
thing big you said on his turning Little Videos was
Lou's cannon.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Brick Baby or not brick Baby, He.

Speaker 14 (18:26):
Says, I don't really break baby. I don't really brig baby.
He said he did for brick baby a brig baby. Yes,
that's a fact, ye buddy, but lose he don't.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
I mean, but it is allege that, And that's why
I'm so surprised that if I'm brick Baby and I
feel like him and you have a close person relationship,
I'm either quitting or I'm telling you no more conversation
about it.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Definitely needs to be careful.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
It's alleged that he would rob somebody and then have
these conversations, And first of all, they were typing, been
used phone. Hey, how you get down with him? Which
is pretty much kind of like extortion.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I don't think of that stuff. He was working here.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
In the past.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
Why would you ever talk about that man's crimes if you.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Feel like if they get away with him week.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Britt never wanted to talk about it.

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Speaker 6 (20:34):
I think doing any of that stuff while he was
working here, I'll be with you in the past.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
Why would you ever talk about that man's crimes.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
If your close feel like if they get away with
it week, they're safe.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Brick never wanted to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
This is one of the rare times academics is actually
holding these guys accountable and having a real conversation. He's saying, listen,
if brick Baby is a part of your platform, and
he is in the extension of big U and they're
under the same umbrella, why are you allowing Whack one
hundred to continue to have conversations that is coroborating crimes

(21:10):
and criminal activity that's actually happening outside of content world.
And how did this shit even end up in content?
So even academics knows this. I think that's a tidbit
of information for people to hold on to when when
he plays like he's obtuse when this topic comes up again.
So he definitely understands how to create a narrative and

(21:32):
how to push a narrative and.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
All of these different things.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
He's even telling Adam, look, man, for the sake of
brick Baby, why you ain't stop this shit?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Adam can't even understand it.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
He's basically responding to a question that Academics is not
even asking. He's saying that Brick didn't do any of
that stuff when he was working here. He definitely needs
to be careful. That's not what.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Act was saying.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
He's saying, why are you even creating a space where
these kind of things can be discussed.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I want to be cleared.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
The platforms are part of our culture, rather large platforms
that have a thirst for violence, thirst for clickbait. They
claim to give artists, entrepreneurs and businessmen, comedians otherwise a
safe spaces, but on the contrary, they create a structure

(22:23):
with saying the wildest things and the most reckless things
get you rewarded. And this is the loophole that brick
Baby get caught in. Right, if he just so happened
to God signed the Black Effect, that wouldn't happen. He
just so happened to have been on Joe Budden podcast.
It's up the podcast any other show but out there
in the West Coast on No Jumper because the environment

(22:44):
is way too toxic and so there's no way to
duck the inevitable consequences. The platform that hands you the
microphone to self incriminate yourself a lot of times will
play in us.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
They'll say, well, we don't tell people what to say.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
Lon.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
That's we're not in control of what people say, and
I do think that that that's the truth. I second that,
But I do want to speak to the subconscious element,
because there's a subconscious element to creating content, especially in
particular in certain environments, and there's an incentive to crash

(23:24):
out by way of algorithm shares, endorsements, and rebookings. So
the incentive to crash out. Now, it's not announced, but
it's implied. And I think when we have these conversations
in the culture, far too many times we try to
ignore what's implied by you big ass needs. Yeah, y'all

(23:49):
ain't gonna y'all ain't got us to say what y'all
opposed to say to nobody faced. Y'all gonna just do
sucker shit and sucker shit imply certain things, and so
it's on the real pick up sucker shit you're doing. Ah,
he gonna turn to a sucker. So it's not announced,
but it's implied. It's very interesting. The platform will roll

(24:11):
out the red carpet and it'll go right into a
court room.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
And I want to be clear with all of y'all.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Anybody that speaks crazy on these interviews about cases.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
They don't beat their case.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Young Doug got lucky, but he never had any real
interviews talking about criminal activity. He may have said something
in songs, no interviews that get on here and speak
out of your mouth that's outside of the guy's in entertainment.
And younna start using allegedly And I'm gonna get to
allegedly who cursed our culture with allegedly? I'm gonna tell

(24:46):
you later on because you people don't even know where
you got shipped from. You just adopt it and use
it and think that you shield yourself. But we'll get
to that in a minute. This is a very perverse
incentive and sis them that they create. Now, I don't
think that a black man can do this. I think
if a black man had this platform, they would already

(25:08):
be in there shooting at him, holding him hostage, kidnapping
him like unliving him. Like if this was a black
man with these platforms, in particular dealing with gang bangers,
because what Adam twenty two is doing with gang bangers
is what academics deal with rappers. You can argue that
some of them Chicago knows gang bangers. They were into

(25:29):
beef and certain things. But what Adam twenty two is
doing when no jumper is gang banger on gang banger,
that is gonna spill over in the streets every single time.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
But it's so close to reality.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
His audience has a thirst for you know, for me, man,
I look at these things and.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
It frightens me.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
That people are this comfortable sitting across from a white
guy saying some of these things.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Let's listen to a little on.

Speaker 12 (26:01):
Me.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
And used to rob stores back in the day.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
And then now I'm on a podcast and people want
to talk about your robbin history. Maybe we're talking talking
about you Robin stores in over there, and I never
robbed stores to do I don't want to talk about
you Robin stores.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
If we used to do something of the sort, that's.

Speaker 8 (26:16):
Something I'm so surprised that I thought Brick like maybe
didn't have anything to do with it. I mean, again,
obviously these are allegations, but kind of reading, I'm like,
I don't know what, Brick, it can't be that good.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I want to ask you the ak case he said
what it was dismissed and comped in court? That what
he saying?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
I said, what's up with that ak case you called
you twenty third twenty it would dispersed the d a
reject nor it ain't Brick. The fans got it along
with the cell phone. So now you gotta ask yourself
if I got caught with that, right, I'm gonna be like, yo, bro,
I got caught. I ain't gave me a cord date.
But I'm not gonna hide. That's the reason why you hide.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
People think that you the confident, but in reality, no,
in reality, that's just being smart. It's the same thing
with Zail Simon when he got caught with the switch
in the and New York picked it up and dropped it,
and he's like, I remember.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
He dissed me.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
He was like, yo, I told you they ain't had
nothing on me. And then the fans came right like,
come on, that's a hug Nelson.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
What I'm saying. Cop and Court never had it. The
fans has always had it day one.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
He knew that. But why did you lie?

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Because you know you got that sealed foul over there
about Sue surfing them in Jersey.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
That's what if Brick ever has to do with them.
You think Brick is in some way.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Big you too, you got a seal foul the exposers.
Prince Lavish pulled it up. We tracked the case number
back to Sue surf theim first we thought it was
some dirt shit. It's not dirt shit. He got a
seal foul dope case New Jersey. It's the same shit
indictment and seue surfing them. I know it is this

(27:51):
weird exposers. Bro, that's a clubhouse. Ta let's straighten that
out too. The exposures come from clubhouse under side of the clubhouse. Right,
it was six. I let big you, I mean, I
let loose? Can he really bangs clubhouse?

Speaker 7 (28:06):
Like?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Is his name?

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Whoever clubhouse he got?

Speaker 5 (28:11):
He got?

Speaker 8 (28:11):
And listen, they're gonna pay her because I looked up
the same thing, and I was like, I see Jersey,
but I'm not putting together what you're saying, Like why
is a Jersey thing?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Reference to brick?

Speaker 11 (28:21):
Baby?

Speaker 5 (28:22):
You a little nervous being in l A no.

Speaker 8 (28:26):
No being here like here here, I'm like, yo is
locked up?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Huh, loose is locked up? So pet your head from jail.
He called it before you he's coming home.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
He called me before I thought him last night he
thinks you lined him up.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I say too much.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
He thinks him last night I told him last night
to better.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
First question, he asked me how last night's episode dude,
counting view behind the wall?

Speaker 8 (28:51):
First, the first thing he said to me crazy that
The first he said to me, you the only person
who I could trust to put out a statement for me.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
He's a snake, he trust me.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
Hell no, I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 8 (29:03):
And you tell me, you know, I think we all
have or whatever, and but but but there's respect all around.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
After seeing this indictment.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
Again, I would if you continue to lean into certain conversations,
it's like you're saying, Yo, these guys don't have the IQ.
Like even what let me tell you this, I read
the entire indictment a lot of what loose can and
corroborated with.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
They already had proof.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
You're sitting there with him, and you're you're doing the
same thing you do a lot of times. So you're
telling me that big you did this, and he called
him back and he gave him the money. Again, Louise
doesn't Louise doesn't know he's.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Everything.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Let me tell you a few things. You ain't gonna
do you can't.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Tell Again, I said that what Adam twenty two is
doing with gang bangers at could deemics did with rappers.
So academics started with drill culture in Chicago, breaking it
down in a way that made people that committed violent acts.
He almost made it look like a scoreboard. And so

(30:14):
you have several layers to the media. You have the mainstream,
you have podcasts, you have reaction channels, you have documentaries,
you have a clickbait you have it's just so many
different layers to media. But what happens is academics, adams,
some of those bigger platforms, they gotta feed the messy
shit because if they don't validate it, then the rest

(30:36):
of that shit.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Don't really mean nothing and it won't get any traction.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
You are aware of a lot of other things that.

Speaker 8 (30:44):
You're not You're not gonna say, but like, all right,
I'll use a brick baby thing I use as an example,
give on sing. So, yes, brick baby has some situations. Respectfully,
I'm gonna be honest with you. I would have said
to Adam, yo, if you're my friend and I'm your
employee and you value me, and I think the story

(31:06):
is that you bailed him out of some stuff, right,
So I'm pretty sure you knew a little bit more.
I would say, yo conversations regarding the case, that I
should only have a lawyer's speak for me. Only have
a lawyer speak for me. What are you talking about
the case, about the weapon or whatever?

Speaker 5 (31:22):
The Okay, so here you'll go squarre Ville. Okay, here
we go square Ville.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
Dag. He didn't.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
It's not that he didn't want to talk about the
case because it may get him in trouble. It's that
it's stipulations and what he was doing and possibly doing
and not going to court for that case. It's gonna
have the streets looking at you like, what.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Are you doing.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
You don't catch an a K forty seven case and
go eighteen months, damn near two years without a court date.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
You don't do it unless you got something else going on.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
So he can't stop that with me the long as
Breck is, you know what Bridg's done at Let me
ask you something. If you knew how I was, would
you be popping my name, antagonizing me, knowing my capabilities
if I go to digging into you, or would you
leave me alone?

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:13):
But that's to know which one would you do?

Speaker 8 (32:16):
You know you got He talked about this on the
phone privately, and I think it's okay if I said,
you said to me act there's a few dudes who
I know it'd be a long day going at him
if they cerebral, they talked that shit, they're gonna get
that extra stuff.

Speaker 7 (32:32):
And it's like, yo, me and.

Speaker 8 (32:33):
You, I'm glad we're in that boat, and I'll put
even some other people in there. Like also, why I
think he's even pretty decent? Not everybody's of the elk
when you are going at it with a lot of
other people.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
It's not even what I asked you.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
And the only thing I'm saying is that do you
think those type of streets, like I get it, that's
the street would square, You're right, that's the street s
Do you think that should be politics on a podcast
where a lot of those things I've seen happen, like
the fans looked at Again, not that the podcast was
trying to encourage some shit, but there was fallout from

(33:05):
conversations happening that led to.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Firm Now we got academics basically saying that street dudes
are dumb when he's talking to Whack one hundred number one.
The premises misplaced because in the same sentence he praises
Whack one hundreds intellect and Whack one hunter says he's
a street man. So that just makes it nulling void.
But let's entertain the conversation that he's having. He's basically

(33:28):
saying that, Yo, what iny of these street dudes out here,
they need to not engage with you in public because
they can't out talk you. I kind of agree with
that so far. The people that he has been up against.
What I do believe is is that Whack one hundred
is an innocent guy. He's a clean guy, and if
you are dirty, you cannot be out on this internet

(33:51):
playing the same games that these dudes on the internet play.
And so I think that's the advantage that he has
is that he can bring things that is meant for
the shadows out in to the light. Now, Whack one
hundred lost seventy percent of hisself by taking down Big
U in his culture cashad. So when I hear academics

(34:15):
giving him so much praise and saying, Yo, these dudes
shouldn't talk to you online that like you're just whooping
all of them. Listen, Whack climb the mountain and lost
half his gear. So yeah, he's climbing the mountain, but
he lost half his gear getting up there, and now
Big U is gone, So that's something he can't talk
about or that doesn't hold any weight anymore. A lot

(34:38):
of the relationships he's ruined along the way via club house,
just getting into it with people. Again, that's if, in
my opinion, that's him powering up to get in position
to fight against a big opponent. Right, you got twenty
one savages and dough boys and all these dudes that are.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Just casualties of war, futures. All these shit is just
casualties of war.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
As he's trying to boat go up to be able
to take Big U down and spread enough narrative to
change perception on Big U by beating him by communication,
our confrontation. It's a trick bag. He had you, nigga.
But academics, let me tell you this. These street dudes.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Are not dumb.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
The brick babies and all these guys who involved with you,
the NBA young boys, this is what is interesting to me.
You'll have literally the NBA Young Boys, the little dirks,
all of these individuals will be fiending Playboy cardis and
shit feeding to reach out to act and then he'll
literally be on the platform saying Street stupid, and some

(35:42):
of them act like Street. I'm a scholar, so they
can't affect me either way. But y'all parading around like
streeting and get up there and say, yo, Street is stupid.
They IQ is low, these dummies, and you'll have young
boy getting out the feed and then you have academics
acting like he was ready to embrace young boy. You

(36:04):
see what I'm saying, Or you will have brick Baby
go to jail, and then Adam twenty two will act
like four extra, I'm waiting on you. It's like, yo, bro,
this shit is getting slippery, like shit is all over
the place. It's just a it's a complete mess. Let's
take a look at a little bit more.

Speaker 9 (36:26):
Now.

Speaker 8 (36:26):
Now they're listening to wire taps, so now people are like, yo, man,
stick buck, they're actually detailing them.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
That's on your dumb ass, stay off the phone. But
while you're smarting, change this south homie.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
This shouldn't have been politics online, but all this fan
love and war and he was at war with big
U I still can't co sign the behavior.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's a little too much for me.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
But I will say this, the entire time they was
having those conversations on the jumper, all of me and
my comrades and the people that I know from the
Inner City, it was almost like the entire Inner City
was sitting back waiting. It's almost like when you hit
sir and you're just waiting on the boom when they

(37:17):
start talking about all of this shit. We're waiting on
a certain kind of response. We're thinking, it's no way
that this is gonna go on address for three years.
There's no way that nobody is gonna come up to
that building or press Adam. That's why Adam has this
nonchalant attitude towards it. He don't give a damn. He

(37:40):
ain't really pressed about that shit. He know I ain't involved.
That's y'all shit, even though it's on my platform in
my building. You got nilly me mad, no jumper, nigga.
We gotta get out. You got all this going on,
and Adam is just like, yo, this none of this
shit is my problem. But it's almost like everyone was
waiting on the car crash at the hearing the tie screech,

(38:03):
we're waiting on some action because that action usually takes place.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
But I was.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Thinking about it, and it's not a street issue at
this point.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
It's an opportunity issue.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
If this was some street shit, Whack was too close
to people who would have, in other circumstances tried to
suppress him from being able to speak in the way
that he was speaking. But because people don't want to
mess up that opportunity, they don't cross the line. So
now let's address what academics is saying to Whack one hundred,
which I pushed back on. Yo, Whack, you're smarter than

(38:40):
all these street nick You're smarter than all of them.
They don't know what's going on when you start talking.
What are you telling me this? You mean to tell
me this? You know how we see Shannon shap do
when you know you got a line of researchers and
people like you know how the media is like this, right,
because we're actually speaking for the fans. So people try
to mask that behavior as fan driven questions.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
And so.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
You bag them into a position where they don't react
how they normally react, out of hope for an opportunity
to stay on No Jumper to try to get out
of the streets. Hopefully I can escape all of that.
I'm on this side of it, so I ain't gonna
push the issue. Now come up on me. It could
be some, but I ain't gonna really try to just
get it. But if somebody in the neighborhood would have

(39:31):
been doing this, if this would have been a black
dude doing this, my man, he would have been addressed
totally different. Because if someone in the neighborhood just says
the wrong name in the case, retaliation comes fast. But
if it's a big podcast or a blogger like Academics,
no Jumper, Vlad, people hesitate. I've even watched Academics change

(39:55):
his behavior only certain rappers. He's seduced now because he
sees that these other rappers are buy down. And so
even when I went on Brilliant Idiots two years ago
and I tried to explain, yo, the meta verses affecting
the universe.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Y'all they starting files.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
But I go visit the burn sites, I talk to
the people that have to beary children.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Casualties of the war.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And so I try to explain to academics, Vlad, Adam
and whoever would listen within the sound of my voice,
that the audience is always entertained, but the consequences are real.
There's a delayed consequence to speaking on certain things in
particularly if you'reself incriminating on these podcasts. And here's the thing,

(40:44):
it doesn't hurt me at all. And so I get
caught up in trying to think me don't understand and
explain it when whole time, the entire game understands it.
Nobody's gonna pull me to the side, like Loom, We
really understand that were ignoring the rules, like we're here
for the money for them, nigga, You the only one
that's trying to be like Now, we can have conversations
without that, y'all. We can talk about business. We can

(41:06):
talk about journey. We can talk about mindset. We can
talk about goals, motivations, relationships, parenthood, fatherhood, you dig past, present, future, right,
we can talk about things other than that.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
We don't gotta talk about that. Let's deal with the products.
Put this in.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
The audience is entertained and it's making a lot of money.
If you ask me, all of this is just the
tough Rapper evolved. The tough Rapper and his entourage evolved,
and so now you got actual street guys that grab
these mics and that jocking for position. We live in

(41:49):
an interesting time now what street status and social status
now sit at the same table. And to be honest,
I still have an issue with understanding how they're using
lyrics interviews iny of that.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I understand that that that basically are gonna say that
when you're on a podcast or an interview, that's a
mission of guilt, Like if you lay out of crime,
they're gonna basically say that's an omission of guilt.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
That's a little different than rap.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
But I believe it's a profound contradiction and selective hearing,
because let's be real, You'll have guys in the same
interviews that to say I'm just playing or nothing I'm
saying here is real, and afairs ignore that, the state
ignore that. I believe that's unfair. I believe if saying
I did that on the interview is case closed, then

(42:34):
saying I didn't do that shouldn't in case dismissed if.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
We're using that logic. But it just doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Interviews with certain people, streams with certain people, interactions with
certain people, have become court rooms with comments sections, and
we've also lost our foot because we have misused allegedly
for so long.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
There's an issue with allegedly in this culture.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
What we're doing is we think that allegedly puts distance
between us and prosecution, when it really doesn't. The issue
with allegedly is for defamation, it does not protect you.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
It's for a.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Civil matter, not criminal matter. So we've been misusing allegedly
for so long that these dudes are confessed to a
crime and then say allegedly and think that that's some
kind of shield, some kind of absolute legal protection. And
so for all my players out there that think they
gonna get on these interviews and run behind these dudes
and they gonna talk about something other than any other

(43:35):
than the mess, then you're wrong because the audience don't
want to hear that. They've trained the audience in a
way where they want to hear.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
About the murders.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
They want to hear about the killings, their hed You
so lost out here. You will say I'm pushing peace,
but then be showing them where you shot a nick
on the video. Yeah nah, shot right here. Yeah you
know what I hate, got shot at but you pushing peace.
See I watch honorable men. I got honorable men around me,

(44:01):
honorable guys in my town. I know what pushing peace
look like. I know what pushing the real agenda for
black folks look like. That's why I don't play with
it and try to use my platform to act like
I'm doing something that I ain't doing. I can play
with it like everybody else and pull a cameraund and
show up once a monthy and act like I'm involved.
That ay, how I get down When I'm involved. I'm

(44:23):
really involved. I got a representative on location on assignment.
But you gotta be careful in this game. It'll make
you change the way you see things, the way you
view things, and the way you do things.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
We can't use.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Allegedly like it's, you know, shielding us from prosecution. Listen,
all of y'all is inadvertently self incriminating on these podcasts.
You gotta watch who you sit with and watch who
conducts your interviews. Some people are there to make sure
that they get the selation's head. Like, listen, that's yourself.

(45:00):
This one question I would have for Adam twenty two
will be simple. There's only a few people that will
get you out of your bed, to make you get
on the airplane and go get the interview. What is
the criteria? You've seen Adam twenty two move maybe what
three four times? What was the criteria in the last

(45:21):
two years when he moved in and went to do
an interview? What was the criteria? These are real questions.
We'll talk about this more at some point. I'm gonna
speak a little bit about the jets Hilarious and Breakfast
Club thing, and then we're gonna get out of here.
Appreciate y'all rocking with us, all right, So let's talk

(45:42):
about the jets Hilarious and Breakfast Club situation that I'm
sure you've seen. I want to address the business side
of it. Of course, you know, the iHeart family is
my family. That's part of my umbrella. I sent a
salute to everyone that's hustling under our heeart. Salute to
the iHeart Family. It is a that is rolling now.
Jess Hilarious was brought onto The Breakfast Club after Angela

(46:06):
Yee's departure, stepping in as a guest co host while
they figure out their new lineup. I did a couple
of dates they did this rotating guest thing as they
were searching for another co host for the Breakfast Club
and while she was pregnant, and upon her return, I
believe Jess felt the transition and how the show was

(46:29):
being handled, and she started to fill a shift. Now,
Jess eventually reached a breaking point and took the Instagram
Live to call out the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
And that's where we're gonna start.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
First, we're gonna be looking at what Jess said to
them in real time. Then we're gonna go to the
Breakfast Club interview with Charlemagne Envy and Lord La Rossen
actually spoke to each other. But first I want to
I want to look at Jess hilarious, reaching her breaking
point and speaking to her Instagram live about how she feels.
It was about a current role at our heart Breakfast Club.

(47:03):
That's road at first.

Speaker 10 (47:03):
Clip looking flowers and we'll always because what does she do?

Speaker 9 (47:08):
She does this shit? Okay, she she shows up.

Speaker 10 (47:12):
I was hired to carry that that third seat and
I was doing that just great.

Speaker 15 (47:17):
But then I got pregnant by my fiance.

Speaker 9 (47:20):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 15 (47:22):
Wouldn't regret it, never would.

Speaker 10 (47:24):
I'm going to have another one. Stopped playing with me, okay,
so I picked her?

Speaker 9 (47:31):
All right, cool. It's proof of that too.

Speaker 15 (47:35):
When I got back, she never left. I constantly was
asking about and when I.

Speaker 10 (47:42):
Say, I called Charlamagine, I called our program director, I
called the boss, I called it. I'm asking, all right,
what's going on? Why where's she gonna Why? Why is
she not leaving?

Speaker 15 (47:51):
What's up?

Speaker 9 (47:51):
Why she's still on air?

Speaker 10 (47:54):
I was told that she was gonna be the producer,
she was gonna be hired as a producer. Okay, producers
aren't on air, though, so what's going on? Because we
have a lot of producers up there already, they're they're
not on air.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
What's what's going on?

Speaker 10 (48:08):
I've called and I've asked many times. That's what I
got told she's the producer. Okay, cool. So I ain't
asked no more. She's only on my segment. So I'm like,
all right, I'm putting shit together because that's what I do.

Speaker 9 (48:27):
I put ship together.

Speaker 15 (48:29):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 9 (48:31):
So Shorty was about to be on the show.

Speaker 10 (48:33):
That's exactly what I put in my head before anybody
decided to come and tell me again. So I did
another round of asking, all right, what are we doing
all right, Well, we've always this, this is this is
the boss. We've always considered having a fourth seat.

Speaker 9 (48:54):
When the fuck was y'all gonna tell me that?

Speaker 5 (48:56):
When?

Speaker 9 (48:57):
When?

Speaker 10 (48:57):
When was your and then this is months at after
I came back. This was like two months after I
came back from a time if you leave, We've always,
you know, ever since Angela Ye left, we said that
we would consider having four seats. So why why when
me and Claudia Jordan did the guest co hosting of
me and Kendrad g did the guest co hosting, then

(49:18):
everybody say, oh, it ain't gonna work with four people?

Speaker 9 (49:20):
Why? Right? Why was that ever even said?

Speaker 10 (49:24):
Why wasn't that something that was presented at the jump
like from jump at the top of the shit. That's
that's what I want to know, right, But I'm still playing.
I'm still here, mind you, I'm not playing the game.
I'm just still here with it because I'm in this
and this is a fun contract. This ain't no part
time little shit that that I got. I got a
contract that I negotiated and I got it. So I'm like,

(49:47):
all right, cool, I'm on air. She overtalks, she's over
talking me.

Speaker 15 (49:54):
Lauren knows she does this shit.

Speaker 9 (49:55):
Whatever.

Speaker 10 (49:55):
I've told about the ship many of times, you know,
she's she overtalks me. I'm like, YO, shut up, all right,
or the hush be quiet? Yeah that clicked that, y'all saw, Yes,
I shut up, I be quiet.

Speaker 15 (50:10):
Yeah, I've said that.

Speaker 10 (50:12):
And I've met that, you know what I mean. That's
the only way to get it a hush. So I'm like,
all right, Cool. One day I told her, I mean,
because I went in the comments, I'm like, all right,
people don't like that, all right, whatever. You know, I'm
not her mother, she's another grown woman.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
I have to respect this lady. But she's not gonna
keep talking over me.

Speaker 10 (50:31):
Y'a Already I'm already confusing on why the fuck she's
still here, you know what I mean, like on air,
not in the building on air, right, So I'm like,
all right, I told her be quiet. The next day,
Charlamagne texts me and he says, YO, don't tell her.

Speaker 15 (50:49):
Be quiet, you.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
Tell us shut up.

Speaker 10 (50:54):
Play into that narrative of y'all beef and y'all and
not liking each other.

Speaker 7 (50:57):
Why the fuck? What will you do that?

Speaker 9 (50:59):
But like, you know what, all right? Cool? She cool
with it.

Speaker 10 (51:03):
I'm cool with it because I'm not a be quiet
type of bit anyway. I am a shut up type
of bitch. Asks my kids, right, even a step a
month old will ask them.

Speaker 9 (51:11):
So then I asked again.

Speaker 15 (51:16):
I'm like, all right, so she's gonna be the fourth host.
That's what it is.

Speaker 10 (51:21):
Whenever we do find that, you know what I'm saying,
it's just a bunch of beating around the bush y'all.
So luck she started doing the news. I'm like, all right,
look that's her segment. Take me off that shit, y'all
give her that shit. Take me off that shit did
this is her segment. Now, this is no longer just
with the mess you know got dark Fats is the mother, Okay, So.

Speaker 9 (51:46):
I said, take me off that shit. This is not that.

Speaker 15 (51:49):
It is no longer my segment. I said it.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
I said it, Take me off of that, give it,
give it to it, give it to Charlotte Mae Sai, Nah,
I want it to be her segment. It damn nish
sure is already like it. It's her segment. She's she's
reading it and.

Speaker 9 (52:05):
She's doing it to the best of her ability.

Speaker 10 (52:07):
Shorty is like that, Yeah, that's why I picked her
to fill in for me for maternity leave.

Speaker 9 (52:17):
That's why I picked her. Do I need to understand something.

Speaker 10 (52:21):
I'm never hating on Shorty. I already told her. I'll
tell her every day. I tell her she's pretty every day.
I tell her every day. I pick up this woman
every day every day.

Speaker 9 (52:32):
I don't have no reason to hate on that girl.
I don't.

Speaker 12 (52:36):
No.

Speaker 10 (52:36):
I didn't like her when I came back because I'm like,
all right, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (52:40):
What's going on?

Speaker 10 (52:41):
She knew it. We had a conversation because the anger
was misplaced.

Speaker 15 (52:47):
Not even you that I don't like.

Speaker 10 (52:49):
I'm realizing it's the way he's just doing shit up here.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
That I don't like.

Speaker 15 (52:53):
Okay, got it. Now it's her segment.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
I went to the to the person who does the intros,
the sounds and shit. I went to Taylor, Yo, Taylor
make laurin her intro, take Jess with the mess all
that shit.

Speaker 9 (53:13):
She says, Ah, things can't just change like that?

Speaker 7 (53:15):
Why the fun?

Speaker 10 (53:16):
Why not are y'all changing everything else? And then I'm
the only one that don't know my goofy yass don't
know nothing. I'm just coming to work every day, just
zippity do gea. You know what I'm saying, like, nah,
take my name out. That shit just with the mess
is not at breakfast club. I'm just hilarious up here.
I'm Jessic Khmore up here. Just what the mess is

(53:39):
not being done? Laura la Rosa is doing the shit,
So that.

Speaker 9 (53:44):
Need to be her segment.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
I fought further. I fought for that segment.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
What are we talking about? What we talking about.

Speaker 10 (53:52):
While her fans and her people is in the breakfast
club people and uh, you know the people want to
calm and asks. Man, I'm not ready to sit up
here and act like I don't see that shit.

Speaker 9 (54:03):
They all crazy.

Speaker 10 (54:03):
One thing I ain't never try to do is act
unbothered unless shit never bothered me.

Speaker 9 (54:07):
Man, what you.

Speaker 10 (54:09):
Try coming back to work. You try to come and
you try to come back to work, and the moment
is right there at your desk and you it ain't
nobody telling you shit, mind you, nobody telling you nothing,
mind you. Before you know it, everybody thinking you just
you're the villain, Like I'm the villain because I didn't

(54:31):
know shit. I'm sick of that. I'm very very sick
of that.

Speaker 9 (54:38):
I'm sick of the shit. It's weird.

Speaker 7 (54:40):
It's weird.

Speaker 10 (54:42):
I don't fuck with it. Just be quiet up there.
I'm not fighting over on Mike's space. I'm not fighting
over on Mike. That's why I went from shut up
and hushed to not saying nothing.

Speaker 15 (54:53):
I'm nah, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 10 (54:55):
I'm not gonna compete where I already already won this competition.

Speaker 9 (54:59):
I didn't it was supposed to be four. If this
was if this was presented to me, you.

Speaker 10 (55:08):
Know, prior to higher, then i'd have been then I
wouldn't have been so shocked, like oh shit, all right, cool,
So we'll be bringing in the fourth person ship.

Speaker 9 (55:17):
That's what's up.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
All right?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Let me let me try to give some perspective and
give my take on this number one salute to just
salute the Laura l Rossa. I like both of them.
What I speak about today is going to be based
on information.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I'm not like these other guys that just want to
give some salacious takes about women in this space. Shout
out to Charlemagne, shout out the envy, I heart and
black Effect. I wanted to play the video and hold,
but I think there's opportunity for us to speak already,
you know, and and from this standpoint, you just heard

(55:56):
her speak about going from basically fighting over the mic
to being quiet. You heard us speak about returning from
being pregnant and someone being in a chair, her not
being informed. Listen, Just to wrap all of that up,
a lot of this is just corporate games. This is
the games that corporate plays, in particular when you are

(56:18):
operating with a show that it's been running for that long.
So this is a well ORed machine and you are
a new car getting the system. Now, had they been Charlemagne,
he can disappear for six months, I bet you won't
nobody being there. Chad to day he come back, and
I think that's what just feels. But you know, that's
levels to everything. Before we get into any other business

(56:42):
matter of fact, let's talk about corporate maneuvering anytime that
you're working for a company.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
This is just how they play the game.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
When you're working for a company, they're smiling your face,
Oh we love you so much, But behind closed doors,
they're making decisions that don't align with that sentiment. Just
made a critical mistake, and this this is in my opinion,
when she assumed they cared.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Now the universe is just so powerful.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Angela Yee did.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
That job for thirteen years, and I'm not sure everyone
really understands how much easier it was when she got there.
Number One, they softened the audience with the eighteen months,
almost two years of rotating guests. They're softening the audience
because if you go from Angela Yee to another woman
that next day, like say she quits on a Friday

(57:31):
and on Monday, her replacement is there. Nine times out
of ten, the fans are gonna be critical. You don't
know how the chemistry is gonna work. There's so many
different variables that you have to take account for, and
so I think the rotating guest thing was brilliant for
a number of reasons. But when they do the rotating guests,

(57:51):
they end up choosing just hilarious. We saw Charlemagne go
to back for just and try to get that deal
done and say, yo, let's make a decision. We saw
him going TMZ and we'll get to that in a minute.
They hired just not only for her own a personality,
but she had a social presence.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
She was a comedian, so.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
We have a certain respect for a comedian's ability to
have these conversations on many different topics, and so she
was hired. She kind of checked off a lot of boxes,
talented young woman, and so she was hired put in position.
But the universe would have it that while she still
knew in her position, she gets pregnant and just can

(58:33):
feel hurt by this because the universe are lying in
a way where it feels like I worked so hard
to get this position and it felt like it was
so easy for me to lose it. And so what
happened was Jess gets pregnant and in her word, she
chooses Lord La Rossa. Now here's where things get slippery.
Lord l Rosa comes in and she has a background.

(58:56):
Her background is from TMZ. That background all though at
this time undervalued, understated. Ah, whatever it is, what it is,
it will be extremely valuable in the climate that we
were in at that time. Now again, Angela Yee did
this gig for thirteen years. What made it even.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
More easier for Lord l Rossa is.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Just took most of the initial blow as it pertains
to people not liking the change at the show or
a new cohost. So she kind of took the initial blow,
then handed it off and the person she gave it to.
In the climate we was in with Diddy being arrested,
with lawsuit after lawsuit, with tabloid after tabloid, all these
hot topics at a high level, and these were some

(59:41):
high priority cases.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
You got young Thug.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Going to jail, Dirt going to jail, did He being arrested,
tapes being released, and that TMZ background became useful and
all of this is happening. Why Jess is on paternity lead,
She's trying to get better. Now she comes back and
someone's in a seat and she gets in her feelings
because what happens is just feels in her mind. It's

(01:00:05):
like being traded to a run heavy team as a
star running back, and then mid season you come back
and man, it's a whole lot of shotgun in it's
playbook now And now you sitting there like, yo, y'all
brought me in because I'm a beast at the run game.
But the whole office is shifted to passing. But in
corporate guess how they get you when it's time for negotiations,

(01:00:27):
guess what they say, Well, you wasn't as effective as
you was last year. Yeah, you changed the game plan,
you changed the playbook, you went away from running, So yeah,
I didn't have as many carriages, so I don't have
as many yards. Jess Hilarious was brought on to lean
in the comedy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Lord La Rosa.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Came in and the pivoted towards journalism. Just is in
a position where her strongest skill set is working against us.
She's a comedian. She wants to have commentary, but you're
in a scenario where we kind of like how she
gave us that information about Diddy. These topics are so
serious that they want information. They don't really want commentary

(01:01:12):
right now, they won't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
What happened with Diddy? And what are they saying? And
it's his lawyer talking about bond and what about the tape?
Is that real?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
And where is Diddy? And that's a sealed indictment and
that's grand jury and they've been speaking to who you
see what I mean? And so what happens is her strength,
shine Bright. What's unfortunately it is is that because just
wasn't there, they were forced to adjust. The team literally

(01:01:41):
was forced to adjust. And the person that we have
here just so happens to Shine Bright. We have to
change the format to fit her strengths, and what started
as a move to accommodate the situation turned into a
full pivot and they shifted away from the comedic standpoints
and comedic content and they lean into journalistic approach.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Just wasn't finished there. Let's look at more only.

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
Time for that segment. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:02:08):
We had a meeting today to to to restructure to
show and ship like that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:20):
Out of here, go out of here?

Speaker 10 (01:02:24):
That went crazy too. Listen, It's a lot of shit.
It's a lot of things that I that I deal with.
I ain't expecting, not one moment. But feel sorry for
me because that's not what I'm looking for.

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
I don't care that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:42):
And I haven't said a mothering thing at all.

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
At all. I haven't.

Speaker 10 (01:02:52):
I haven't said anything. Just a crazy thing, y'all. I'm
gonna let y'all. I'm gonna let y'all know this. The
craziest shit is right. I wanted Breakfast Club so bad.

Speaker 9 (01:03:06):
I wanted it.

Speaker 15 (01:03:07):
I grew up on the show the fuck like, what
Hall of Fame show?

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
What are we talking about? Syndicated?

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
This ain't my first time doing radio, But I'm just
saying like this is the biggest fucking show culturally.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 (01:03:22):
I was eating that shit up the whole year.

Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
I co hosted eating that shit up until I had
to leave.

Speaker 10 (01:03:27):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I had a baby
in this industry and what I'm doing ain't no right
time to have a baby.

Speaker 9 (01:03:34):
So you have them when you have them.

Speaker 10 (01:03:37):
I don't regret when I got pregnant.

Speaker 9 (01:03:39):
I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:03:40):
I got pregnant on fuck purpose. That's what I wanted,
a baby, and that's what I got.

Speaker 9 (01:03:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 (01:03:46):
But I wanted breakfast club.

Speaker 9 (01:03:52):
You feel me. I'm and I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 10 (01:03:58):
I don't fucking need to be there. I wanted to
be there. I loved being there.

Speaker 9 (01:04:09):
That was my shit.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
You get what I'm saying, Like that was my shit.
I used to be happy as a mother on the radio.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, I'm not.

Speaker 15 (01:04:21):
I'm listen.

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
I'm not intimidated by no woman walking on this earth.
I give a crown to that girl. If you listen
to the show, you know you're talking about she tried
to be my friend. Excuse me. Ain't nobody trying to
be no mother friends, What are we talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
We just naturally.

Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
Organically became cool once I realized what the fuck was
going on. Like I said, my anger was misplaced. No,
I did not like her when I first came back.
I didn't even down to how I was supposed to return,
Like we had a whole plan on how I was
supposed to come back.

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
When I walk in.

Speaker 10 (01:05:01):
The room, she never left. First thing she said is
not how your baby doing. No, that was envy cause
he's the family man, right, how does maternity leave?

Speaker 9 (01:05:12):
No? No, no, that's not the first.

Speaker 10 (01:05:13):
The first thing that she talks about is the shit
that was in the comments. What the fake would make
me want to talk about.

Speaker 9 (01:05:23):
The comments?

Speaker 10 (01:05:24):
First, I got a beautiful baby at home. Why you
know what I'm saying. So, No, I did not like
her when I first came back.

Speaker 9 (01:05:30):
I had to.

Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
Learn that Lauren was not a spiteful person. Like I'm like,
I don't like the way you're moving. I don't like nah,
I I ain't feeling this shit. We had a whole
nother plan.

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
I don't know what the fuck that what that wasn't then?
But that shit wasn't it. I ain't like that. We've
made cool.

Speaker 10 (01:05:51):
Since then, that's it, right, A compliment this girl every day,
every day and it ain't forced.

Speaker 9 (01:06:01):
She's a beautiful girl. She knows her shit and she
own her shit.

Speaker 10 (01:06:05):
And that segment came from me, Like let's let's not
even sit here and fuck play around with it like
it's a crazy thing. This, this is another crazy thing.
We supposed to be a team up that bit. Not
one person, not one person comes to my defense at all,
Like when I'm t like, not one mother ever with

(01:06:30):
this online shit, Like why the fucking ship we have
to keep playing it? Man, listen, I know one thing, Angelie,
You ain't that much crazy, not not as crazy as
it is try to make out to be Nae the
reason that lady wanted to.

Speaker 15 (01:06:47):
Lead that show.

Speaker 9 (01:06:48):
I don't know how she did that shit.

Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
For thirteen years, my nigga, I'm telling you, I don't
give a fuck. Y'all already know what's up with me.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
I feel played with.

Speaker 10 (01:07:01):
I'm gonna play with it like that's just like, come on,
I've been quiet a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:07:07):
If Jess Hilarious is quiet, it's a mother reason.

Speaker 10 (01:07:10):
I always got my mouth open all the time, whether
it's something y'all want to hear, or it's something that
y'all ain't gonna want to hear. I ain't got time,
I ain't got time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Just hilarious is speaking to breakfast club, not having a back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
And being quiet on set.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
But man, this is just how the universe work. Literally,
this is how the universe works. Things aligned in ways
you can't control. And so right when just went on
maternity leave, Diddy gets arrested and who steps in Lroosso
and guess what. This is exactly the type of cycle
that she thrives in. It's just the years of TMZ
gave her the resources, the context, and the instincts to

(01:07:58):
navigate these kinds of stories.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
And it didn't take any effort from the girl.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
And so while you're on maternity leave, the headlines fall
right into her lane and she takes advantage. And so
while you're out, Lourosa is on air handling the business
some of the biggest headlines in culture. And let's be real,
it ain't really been comedic. Shit that was going on.

(01:08:24):
Hasn't been a lot of space for comedy in the
last year and half two years. These topics have been serious, deep.
You need to be resourceful. It's been a lot of
major legal issues, and you got to have a journalist's mindset,
the right facts and the ability to break things down,
and all of that play the role in how things unfold.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I want to be clear.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
If you go and work for TMZ, of course you
got van that left TMZ. If you leave TMZ, I
want you to understand something. Even if you don't leave
with a big check or real resume or list of
a com publishments under your banner, you still leave with technique.
You learn how to get information, You learn how to

(01:09:09):
title information, you learn how to digest information. You learn
how people view and take in information. You learn how
to reach out, you learn how to track down people.
You get real intel. So when Lrosa leaves TMZ, what
do you think she took with her contacts, connections, techniques.

(01:09:30):
She showed up on the Breakfast Club and wasn't shining
light and unfortunately just wasn't there to defend the comedic space. Wow,
Lo Rosa was there. I want to speak to her
kind of saying that no one held her down. I
remember when Breakfast Club was doing a rotating guess and
you had a scenario where Charlamagne went out and used

(01:09:54):
his leverage to say, yo, get just signed. I won't
just signed. She had an announced it that kind of
came out and so she wouldn't fall flat on her face.
He kind of stepped in behind her, like, I ain't
gonna let him, do you like that? Because they was
kind of acting like they was on the fence a little.
Ihart wasn't pulling the trigger, and so Charlemagne came out.

(01:10:14):
I remember a TMZ interaction in which he said, listen,
we did the rotating co hosts. I'm not interested in
doing that again. With not doing that again, it'll just
be two people if they want to do that, And
so he kind of positioned it like, make the decision
that'll make all of us happy, so we can get
back to making great content. They ended up pulling the
trigger on Jess. They dropped a they dropped the trailer,

(01:10:37):
announced her coming on, and then she started the gig.
But Charlemagne went out on a limb. So I can
only imagine because I'm a counsel and I'm only speculating
because I hadn't spoke to him about this, but I
can imagine he feels like ah, and so when she
gets upset and I know that probably had him thinking
like man, after all that this is how it gets handled,

(01:11:00):
like I stick my neck out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Now. I know Jess was in the emotions and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Felt played with And you know, I don't think there's
the right way to do the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
But I understand how corporate can rage bait you. I
get it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
They can play a certain kind of game that will
make you address them in a way that makes you
look unstable. But in the back of my mind, I'm like, yo,
maybe Charlot Mane said, all right, I can't stick up
for Jess again because look what he got me, and
see the thing about a cancer will continue to laugh
and SMI he but in the back of my mind
will be knowing I remember that you did, and I'll

(01:11:39):
never go out on their limb again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Now we ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Our relationship don't end, but I'm vulnerable when I'm out
there with someone for them to throw me under the
bus the first chance they get, and that's what it
can feel like. But she probably feels like she's through
under the bus. I know, as a cancer you take
that in now. Maybe Charlemagne has some mental health training

(01:12:04):
that I don't have that he digests that and shakes
it off different so there's more live, but we're gonna
skip that. She actually went back to work the next day,
so after she came out, blew up on the Breakfast
Club called him out basically said, Yo, y'all are not
supporting me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Y'all let me get through under the bus.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Y'all are pulling a move that I can see y'all pulling.
Y'all changing the format of the show in the middle
of the game, and then when it's time for renegotiations,
you're gonna save my lack of f for playing into
my number being Lord, this is the corporate game. Now,
let's pay attention to Jess Hilarious returning back to work

(01:12:43):
the next day, and Charlemagne, Lord La Rossa and DJ
Envy had a conversation with her about how she's been
feeling in that Instagram live roads tape.

Speaker 16 (01:12:55):
Morning everybody, it's DJ n V, Jesse Hilarious, Charlamage to God.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
Good morning, what's happening.

Speaker 11 (01:13:02):
How everybody feeling out there?

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
I'm great?

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
How you feel?

Speaker 11 (01:13:05):
I feel? Blessed? Black and Holly favorite Jesslarius is here.
I'm cool, Okay, just as my job.

Speaker 9 (01:13:08):
I came into work.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
What's up?

Speaker 16 (01:13:09):
She's been trending all day? Yeah, I think she's number
nine right now?

Speaker 17 (01:13:12):
Okay, because I was sitting there at home last night
trying to watch magazine Dreams, and I kept getting a
bunch of phone calls and text messages and people's like,
just Larrus is going off on live.

Speaker 11 (01:13:20):
Or we have audio.

Speaker 9 (01:13:21):
Okay, we're supposed to be a team up there.

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
Not one person, not one person comes to my defense
at all, Like when I'm like, not one month ever
with this online?

Speaker 15 (01:13:33):
Come on, I've been quiet.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
I lost.

Speaker 10 (01:13:35):
If jess Larius is quiet, it's a mony reason. I
always got my mouth open all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:13:41):
It ran like a high school. It is fair east
Side High. I agree with them, Fair east Side mister club.

Speaker 10 (01:13:47):
Though every day they always talk about you ain't at work,
You ain't at work yet shall started picking up more shows.

Speaker 9 (01:13:52):
Hell no, that's how I'm getting Hell no, hell no.

Speaker 15 (01:13:56):
I have more fun outside of the studio than I
have in there.

Speaker 9 (01:13:58):
Now, is you crazy? No?

Speaker 10 (01:14:00):
Act like now, Act like act like that's not for real,
Act like nobody knew that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:04):
Stop acting like y like meant don't okay?

Speaker 10 (01:14:09):
All right, so the narrative, like I said, with the
online ish, That's what I said, ya ain't ain't nobody
trying to clear up no narrative about nothing? Ever, since
I came back, it was weird, Yes, it was weird.
Yeah I at first, No, I did not. I wasn't
too fond of Lorne. No, I wasn't too fond of
her when I came back, because we had a whole
plan even how when I when I came back, how
I picked her to fill.

Speaker 11 (01:14:29):
In for me?

Speaker 10 (01:14:29):
Right I come back. She ain't ever leave? Then, all right,
cool to shann't leave? But she's on only during my segment.
If if she was meant to be a full post
move her in another way? Why she got to be
moved then on?

Speaker 9 (01:14:40):
Because nobody had a problem with just with the mess
until she started reading, right, you know, I mean till
she started. Till she started, I wasn't hired as a reporter.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
I was hired just with the mess.

Speaker 10 (01:14:49):
So she started reading and delivering details and all that stuff.
Then that's when just with the Mess wasn't good enough
no more. That's how it was presented.

Speaker 9 (01:14:55):
So I'm like, all right, cool, I feel said, what
are we talking about Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is.

Speaker 10 (01:15:01):
This is every this is our listeners, this is this
is yeah. Why can't why can't we worry about the comments?
And these are people that enjoyed the show and watch
the show. It's not all about Instagram, it's YouTube. It's like,
we have people that have been watching the show. Yes,
she's great at what she did, That's why I picked her.
A feeling for me. But when I came back, it
was it was it's kind of it's like, what's going
on If she's gonna be a fourth voice?

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
Why she only got to be a full voice?

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Okay for my segment, She wasn't a fourth voice. She
was a producer.

Speaker 16 (01:15:23):
She was hired as a news producer to help with
getting all news and doing it, and she wasn't on
there when you came back, Lauren was not on it.
She was in the back doing questions, sending interview questions,
reporting the news.

Speaker 9 (01:15:32):
In my line, I thought, hey, as she was on air,
they told her on step in this room.

Speaker 11 (01:15:36):
Yes, but I thought you was using her on purpose?

Speaker 9 (01:15:39):
What you thought I was using Lauren on purpose? No?
What are we talking about? No?

Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
No, no, she didn't leave when I came back the
first day. The first day, we had a whole situation
like all right, look, this's gonna happen, and when it's
time for us to roll that it changed. No, the
first question was about the only person who asked me
about my baby maternity leave was Indy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
All right.

Speaker 10 (01:16:00):
Then she addressed the hate and the comments. That was
the first thing she addressed. When I came back, I'm like,
what the hell.

Speaker 11 (01:16:06):
I want to talk about?

Speaker 9 (01:16:07):
So yeah, yeah, we started talking off air. We started
so so then I felt uncomfortable that first day. So
I'm like, all right, look. They was like, all right, right,
well, we'll just take her off air. She was back the
next week.

Speaker 10 (01:16:18):
All right, cool, because there was a voice they y'all
wanted her on air. There was a voice they you know,
they wanted her there. They wanted her here. There's there's
a place for Lauren in the show. All right, cool,
do it another way?

Speaker 17 (01:16:29):
Yeah, because you said you wanted to change your segment
from just with the message to the Lauren.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
That was eventually eventually even when it even when it
came down.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
See, this is what I need just to understand, right,
is that and this is a profound lesson for all
people that is in the entertainment industry and dealing with
corporate America. You have to understand that you cannot be
emotional and you cannot be reactive because they'll use that
against you. Your emotional instability will be used again you

(01:17:00):
when you are dealing with the high level business. So
I think just made a couple of mistakes, and I'm
gonna speak to him really quick, and just you know,
I got love for you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I'm just dealing with the business. Number one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
This isn't just first time thinking about this. She's probably
thought about this a million times. The comments is getting
towards She's starting to be affected by people saying this
and it presenting itself in her algorithm. And I tell
people all the time, you can't escape yourself. You cannot
escape your own mind. Bro, That's what I be saying.

(01:17:36):
Don't let no one shake your confidence or control your mindset,
because once I make you believe you're less, then I
don't even have to be around anymore. You're still thinking unworthy.
It's like the people drill negativity into you over and over.
It's like, I remember when we come up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Dudes used to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
The girls It's like, girl, you got six kids, Ain't
nobody gonna want you, Nobody gonna take care of nobody else?
Baby whole time, Ain't no man gonna step in and
do the due out lay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
You better hold on what you got.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
You know, that kind of talk drilled into somebody's head,
have a woman thinking like, damn, maybe I really can't
do better, Maybe nobody else will step up, and so
you'll be stuck in your own mind, battling your own thoughts.
I think just has been battling her own thoughts dealing
with this, knowing that Yo, they just feel like they
sneaking and doing something. It feel like they move and

(01:18:28):
shit around and I don't know they ain't they ain't.
Ain't nobody speak what going? The other mistake she made, though,
is being rebellious, right, what happens in corporate can't happen
with your emotions. It gotta happen with the stroke of
a pen or move. You gotta move in corporate. You
can't be emotional screaming and hollering. They don't even react

(01:18:49):
to that. It's paperwork. It's paperwork. And so her being rebellious,
stepping more into the comedy lane worked against her if
you're asking me, so, if you heard it, she started
booking more dates because she felt like, Yo, y'all treating
me this kind of way, and y'all got this other
girl online, y'all got this other girl on ELL, and
she in my seat. And I'm telling y'all, I wanna

(01:19:10):
hear y'all bring it back next week. Man, I'm picking
up more comedy shows and I'm finna be quiet. She
thinks this is her being rebellious, that they're gonna say,
jes we're paying you too much to be quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
You need to speak up. They don't care about the money.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
What they're gonna do is use your productivity against you
when it's time to re up, and your emotional instability
against you. So when you pick up more dates and
you're doing this quote unquote zoom now on, you give
us a reason to have the woman on set. You
give us a legitimate reason. And then when you try
to be rebellious and say, yo, give her the set

(01:19:44):
on some hoping people gonna say, no, we're not doing that.
Just let us make it right. I don't know, we'll
give her the set. Then now we'll use it again.
You know, you know, then you say give her, you
say give her a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Set, right, That's that's how that works.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
We are you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
You said it, you fought for the big We's heard
you fight for it, and they gave it to her.
But you're thinking that they pay you so much, why
would they give your segment away? You make too much
money not to be productive on the show. That ain't
how corporate work in particular, iHeart, they've been in the
green for ten years, eight years. They've been in the

(01:20:19):
green for a long time, so they got some money
to play with. And so while you pick up more
and more comedy dates and do your zoom call ins
to the breakfast club, she's getting more and more ad time.
The audience is getting used to it. And that's corporate strategy.
They always make sure that if you get too emotionally
involved and you decide to step away, they already have

(01:20:41):
a bagup in place. Because let's be real, Jess was
already emotionally text She had a lot going on, a pregnancy,
the shifts at work happening, and now this new girl's
getting some shine people in the comments. Corey hopem is
doing too much, and so while she's moving off that
emotion corporate is moving off operation, and I feel like

(01:21:02):
that's the play they made.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Shuret it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
No matter what they were dependent they were not dependent
on just and once the audience gets used to someone else,
the transition is more easier than you thought. The money
is not even considered at all. The money is not
considered and it's still.

Speaker 10 (01:21:20):
Being called just with the mess. And then I'm introducing
her to introduce stories. That was pointless and it was stupid.
It's not just with the mess. Just make it brown
girl grinding, or or Lauren with the latest, or the
legal Lauren's legal corner. I'm giving ideas. I'm like, yo,
even with the tailor, Yo, change change that, take that
just with the mess off it. I feel like I'm
getting credit for something I'm not doing, and it's stupid
because that's this is not what she does is not just.

Speaker 11 (01:21:38):
With the mess.

Speaker 10 (01:21:39):
I read headlines and I give commented, I say what
people think it You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:21:42):
Yes, she's more of a reporter, she's journalist.

Speaker 11 (01:21:44):
The question why didn't you way to do RAG this morning?

Speaker 9 (01:21:47):
Because so much?

Speaker 11 (01:21:48):
Man, you mean, it's.

Speaker 9 (01:21:54):
A joke, but it's a serious issue about.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
It is a serious issue.

Speaker 11 (01:21:58):
I watch it because I'm I'm not your.

Speaker 10 (01:22:00):
Clark, because it's not I am. Actually no, it's now endy.
That's what I'm saying. No, nobody has even tried to
clean up the narrative.

Speaker 9 (01:22:07):
I'm a villain man.

Speaker 10 (01:22:09):
Y'all stop acting like you don't live in them comments too, Charlotte,
stop acting.

Speaker 11 (01:22:12):
Like what do I always tell you?

Speaker 17 (01:22:14):
I say, stop listening to the internet, Stop listening to
the comments, stop listening to the folks on YouTube. Don't
let them trick you out your position. What you did
last night is what they want you to do, and
you can't let the internet win.

Speaker 10 (01:22:23):
But look, it's not even about what they want me
to do. I did last night, what I wanted to do,
what I felt like I should have been dead.

Speaker 9 (01:22:28):
I've been asking questions.

Speaker 17 (01:22:29):
The internet loves me, and one of the easiest ways
to create mess is to pick people against each other,
especially to women.

Speaker 11 (01:22:34):
And I don't dwell in that, and y'all know that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
But see this, this is the thing.

Speaker 16 (01:22:37):
You let the Internet dictate what's going on. We've had
conversations and this is the thing that this is why
I thought it was corny, and it's just me personally
I thought it was corny because we have conversations up here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
We just have a meeting.

Speaker 16 (01:22:46):
If you had an issue, a problem, situation, or something
that you felt, why you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Ain't bring it to the team.

Speaker 16 (01:22:49):
When you came back, Jess, I pulled you to the side.
I suggest if you feel uncomfortable, if you don't want
Lauren in the room, this is your show. We can
make that the change whenever you want. Did I not
say that to you?

Speaker 9 (01:22:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
You did.

Speaker 10 (01:22:59):
It's not a out wanting her in a room, y'all.
It's about the segment like if she.

Speaker 16 (01:23:03):
Was it was like, yeah, if you had a problem,
say to yes.

Speaker 10 (01:23:07):
Off when it's not.

Speaker 16 (01:23:08):
Let nobody have in my back because we have your back.
As far as the Corey Hole come thing, y'all been
beefing for eleven years. Whining about y'all, it's not even
a box showing about comments. You're worried about what people
say about the concession and my reputation. They've been issued
on me for fifteen years. They've been issued for fifteen years.
People that don't issue me it's on the don't let
it affect me because I know who I am as
a person. I don't give a f with them people
saying in the comments, I know who I am, I

(01:23:29):
know what I do. If you let them people get
in the comments and.

Speaker 9 (01:23:31):
F with you, you look great at what you do,
body like you are dope very you let.

Speaker 16 (01:23:35):
Them people get piss you off.

Speaker 9 (01:23:36):
No Nicks, that's too nice.

Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
Like what you do is funny.

Speaker 11 (01:23:39):
I tell that all the time.

Speaker 16 (01:23:40):
I bought that energy that we needed to the breakfast
club and you let a bitch ass person in a
common say something to stay. You're about to the fmnates.
All these people are that could be bots and all that,
and we're doing it on air when we could have
did it behind the scenes, Like I f with you.
The long we're not on some internet ishe and the
and the hair that through that fact?

Speaker 17 (01:23:56):
This is very like let's go to the phones. Five
when the phone line, everybody will stop. I refused to
deal with this page rage and.

Speaker 11 (01:24:04):
This Baltimore madness. Okay, now you bring this Delaware. All
I want to do is right here. Okay. All Charlomagne
want to do is laughing. Then y'all yell at me
for laughing. You don't take nothing.

Speaker 18 (01:24:15):
There, they said, it's all your phone.

Speaker 11 (01:24:16):
I know it's always my fault. I don't care, Okay,
I think the good and the bad with everything. It
is what it is.

Speaker 17 (01:24:20):
It's the World's mos day this morning to show the
Breace Club DJ and be Charlamage the God Just Hilarious, Lauren,
the roast is here. We're having a conversation because just
Hilarius went crazy on Instagram last night.

Speaker 10 (01:24:29):
And I knew the live with upset. You know, you
tell me you don't get upset whatever, but I knew
that it would upset Envy. I knew it would upset going.
That's why you closed the elevator this morning.

Speaker 11 (01:24:39):
That's what that was crazy. Now, why would you do that?

Speaker 7 (01:24:41):
Lord?

Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
I know I did. They pulled the same time at
the same time.

Speaker 17 (01:24:47):
She didn't know what was on, so she was, remember
you remember what you was on Juicybody.

Speaker 18 (01:24:54):
At one time?

Speaker 19 (01:24:55):
And this this was why I heard the button though,
I said, I felt like I didn't know what to
say to you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Because I was so Let me say this too, because
Jess is clearly emotional.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
We do need to take notice. She just had a baby. Again.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Both these women are talented. I stay with both of them.
You know, I don't want to see any division amongst them,
and I want to breathe life into them and send
my support. You dig what I'm saying. To make sure
that I'm loud about that, right. My support is with
these two women. You know, Jesse Motions is everywhere after

(01:25:29):
having that baby, like you're all over the place man,
you know, and she's been handling it well. But job
security is important to a woman, especially if she's the
bread one of the family. Think about that, that's her
job security she's looking at when she thinks about these
kind of games and being played. And that's what corporate
doesn't consider a lot of times, corporate doesn't look at

(01:25:51):
it that way because you're blessed, you got other things going.
But she's accounting for this position and her opinion worked
hard to get in that seat. Passed it rather easily
to Laural, but Laura slam dunked it. And also the
universe aligned with all of the things that were going
viral in her TMZ background, her skill set just it

(01:26:12):
was just in her lane, and so the universe called
for this. And so you cannot push back on the
universe call and pay attention, but shout out to.

Speaker 19 (01:26:21):
Jist thrown off by the bye parts of that live yesterday.
I'm like, bro, we be talking at least, and like
we don't got to be friends outside of here. But
I feel like I've always said to you off air
when every things have happened, We've had conversations about a
lot of different things.

Speaker 18 (01:26:33):
We can let's talk. Call me what's up? What's what's
the issue?

Speaker 9 (01:26:36):
What's the issue?

Speaker 10 (01:26:37):
Is the whole narrative, Like I understand f the comments
and yeah, after people and all that, but it's not
all about them. It's how I'm feeling too. What if
I'm feeling the same way the people feel, you know
what I'm saying. So what because online feel a certain way,
I can't I can't I feel the same way they
feel about it.

Speaker 9 (01:26:56):
I've done like I've done that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 19 (01:27:00):
It's a bigger issue sometimes too, because I felt like,
all right, you'll call him, you'll customer out. We might
talk about different situations. But I think a lot of times,
if there's an issue for Referal, it didn't don't be
no movement in here. It's like there's an issue outside
and then there's no movement in here, and then we
just all in here like he hot like you're doing
a lot of it right now. You're laughing and joking.
But for Rhfeerol, you know that there's she's up here crying.

Speaker 18 (01:27:16):
Nothing about that.

Speaker 19 (01:27:17):
It's funny, like there's real issues and real problems and
we don't really get to the gist of it.

Speaker 11 (01:27:21):
I want the rector of the show I see j
just car.

Speaker 19 (01:27:23):
It doesn't matter if you say talking about I'm not
trying to say I'm not talking to y'all, fee because
when I try to be here to talk, you see
what I'm saying, you should.

Speaker 11 (01:27:30):
Out to me.

Speaker 19 (01:27:31):
What I'm saying is is that I think at this moment,
because this is Eastside High, west side, whatever high you
gonna be, we hear and we together, so we gotta
figure this out.

Speaker 18 (01:27:39):
And it's not everything's not a joke. And I can
understand some.

Speaker 19 (01:27:42):
Of where you was coming from. But Bro, part of
that live I thought was crazy. I'm like what, just
like what part?

Speaker 10 (01:27:48):
Because like, it's not like you didn't hear anything in
that live that I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Said to you.

Speaker 18 (01:27:52):
I heard a lot that you didn't say to Okay,
So what part that I did I not say to you? Okay?

Speaker 19 (01:27:57):
So the part about the talking over each other and
the hush, be quiet. You talk about how you feel
in real time? Right, yeah, I'm feeling in real time,
that'd be quiet. That was crazy, is crazy?

Speaker 11 (01:28:05):
The shut up.

Speaker 18 (01:28:05):
I was like, oh, okay, because what we really given
up here?

Speaker 9 (01:28:07):
Like what's up?

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:28:09):
But I need none of that. What was said I did,
you didn't say it.

Speaker 19 (01:28:11):
And then when I pulled you into the office with
our EP with Eddie the conversation, the first thing I
said to you was, Jess, we fighting for air time
and it shouldn't be like that. I want to know
what can I do better as a producer, What can
we do better as the two women sitting right here
next to each other, to make sure that don't happen,
because it doesn't look good.

Speaker 18 (01:28:25):
It's not gonna play well for either one.

Speaker 9 (01:28:26):
I literally swear to god, I don't even remember.

Speaker 19 (01:28:28):
You saying that, And that's exactly why I had I've
never ever heard that, because you've pulled.

Speaker 10 (01:28:34):
Me to the side a few times to ask me,
you know, are you okay? How do you feel like
about the stories and things like that, You've never said
what you just said to me. Now listen, I have said, hush,
shut up, but yo, you over talk and like I said,
I'm not about to be up here a fighting for
no mic, Like I'm not doing that if I already
got the job, Like what am I doing? Like I'm
not full voices. Three of us are very opinionated, you
know what I mean? Me, you and Chela May. I'm
not saying we don't got no opinion. But he don't

(01:28:55):
jump in every single time there's dead air, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:28:58):
When you you over talk, and it's like the time
you can gouie down as somebody be like shut up,
A hush my.

Speaker 18 (01:29:02):
Mom, don't even tell me shut up yet. I'm a
grown ass one.

Speaker 9 (01:29:04):
And I understand you.

Speaker 10 (01:29:04):
You couldn't say that on air right there and that
but on right after the way I mean you put
me in office.

Speaker 19 (01:29:08):
But it made me know because that because the way
that I do things when it comes to my job
and my career, that's not what we're on.

Speaker 18 (01:29:12):
And I told you from the jump, I was never
going to give that to you, okay, And I did.
I did or not?

Speaker 19 (01:29:16):
Our first conversation, I said, if I ever have an
issue with you, I'm gonna handle it in a way
where we can get through a conversation because we've grown
and regardless, you don't gotta love me, you don't gotta
like me, but we here together.

Speaker 11 (01:29:24):
I'm here and listen, like I said earlier, the Internet
loves me.

Speaker 10 (01:29:26):
You are here and one of the Indians, and you're
here because of the opportunity that I extended, regardless. So
that's yeah, no, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
I'm not.

Speaker 10 (01:29:35):
I'm not sitting here like you don't deserve to be here.
I'm not sitting here like you're not here. You're not
going anywhere. That's not Let's first and foremost, let's get that.
It may be my delivery or whatever, but yeah, you
are here. I ain't never say you shouldn't be here,
I said from the whole jump.

Speaker 9 (01:29:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:29:49):
Surety do the job great, She's amazing. That's why I
want it to be her segment.

Speaker 17 (01:29:52):
I just I think y'all can work very well together.
And once again, you gotta stop letting the internet against.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Us, you know, so basically, so again, man shout out
the Breakfast Club, shout out Charlamade, Envy, just Lord, l Rossa, Taylor,
everybody behind the scenes, the producers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
All of that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Shout out to the family also, Man, you know, they'll
get through that. They monetized on it. That's a whole
nother conversation we can speak about, you know, bringing those
issues to the forefront and learning from them and monetizing
off of them, you know, because if the feelings are
going to be there any way, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
I think this is a cautionary teale though. Man, if
a bird leaves his nest and another bird swoops in,
it definitely make it. It'll definitely make your nest is home.
But I do believe if Jess wouldn't have got pregnant,
she would have fought harder for relevance and the format

(01:31:01):
wouldn't have changed.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
But if Diddy and Thug and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
All of these cases, all of this shit just aligned
and Laura, Laura l Rossa actually did a great job.
And Breakfast Club is breakfast Club. So you got a
certain amount of eyeballs on you. Salute everybody watching this show.
The universe will align in your favor. It's up that podcast. Salute, Salute, Salute.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
W's in the chit a W's in the

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