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January 23, 2024 42 mins

This week, Tommy is joined by actress and director Danielle Savre, who stars in the ABC hit drama, Station 19. The wildly popular series is a spin-off of the critically acclaimed Grey’s Anatomy and is heading into its seventh season this spring. Station 19 revolves around a group of interesting and complex firefighters navigating their way through high-stakes rescues while balancing the highs and lows of their personal lives, and Danielle brings the role of Maya Bishop to life flawlessly. Danielle opens up about how deeply connected she is to this role, what being in a same-sex relationship on primetime television has meant to her, how she has been processing the news of the series cancellation, the one item she hopes to take home from set when the series is over, the piece of advice she would tell herself at this very moment of her life, how she tackles those emotional scenes, and her deep love for the Station 19 fandom. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, welcome to I've Never said this before with
Me Tommy di Dario. Today's guest is the incredibly talented
actress and director Danielle Savory, who stars in the ABC
hit drama series Station nineteen.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Station nineteen is a spin off of the critically acclaimed
series Gray's Anatomy. You may have heard of it before,
and it revolves around a group of interesting and complex firefighters.
But what I love about this series is, Yes, we
get to watch these incredibly dramatic rescues in intense, high
stake situations, but we also get to watch the personal

(00:39):
dramas of these characters unfold, the highs, the low's, and
everything in between. Danielle plays the character of Maya Bishop flawlessly,
and she quickly became a fan favorite on the show.
For good reason. Her character means so much to so
many people. As this wildly popular series heads into its

(00:59):
set season, Danielle is joining me today to reflect on
her journey on the show. But what I love about
this interview is how real and vulnerable Danielle is. Now,
if you're a big fan of the series, you may
know that unfortunately, after this upcoming seventh season, Station nineteen
has been canceled by ABC. This ugh, this is beyond

(01:23):
shocking to well, the entire world because the show has
been so incredibly successful and popular since day one. So yeah,
a lot of us are scratching our heads with this news.
For one of the first times, Danielle is opening up
about this recent news, But the episode is also a
celebration of the incredible work that she has done over

(01:43):
the years, and of course we are celebrating the amazing
fans of Station nineteen as well, because well, y'all rock.
So let's see if today we can get Danielle to
say something that she's never said before. Danielle, it is

(02:04):
so good to see you, my friend. How are you
so good?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
To see you too? I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Twenty twenty four is off to a pretty good start.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Good same? I can't believe we're here at the beginning
of the new year. I feel like last year everything happened.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
So fast, right, it happened way too fast, but also too.
I think we were talking earlier about we saw each
other in twenty twenty one, and I feel like that
was yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I know, I know, it's pretty wild. Well, I'm so
excited you're here, and today we're going to celebrate you
and the show Station nineteen that means so much to
so many people, and really just kind of dive into
your world and get to know you a little bit
more deeper, a little better than people already know.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
But I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
No it, don't be scared. Don't be scared. It's gonna
be fun. Hopefully you'll let me know by the end. Okay, deal,
let's just start, Danielle. I have to bring up the
news that is everywhere. I mean I feel like every
day I open social media and I see a tweet
on Instagram, a post somewhere, and that, of course, is
that after the seventh season of Station nineteen, which y'all

(03:04):
are working on right now, it seems to be that's
going to be the last, which is breaking hearts across
the world and really deeply impacting people.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I don't say that cavalierly. I mean it.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean people are devastated that the show is coming
to an end. So, first of all, before we dive
into this whole conversation, how are.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
You doing with the news in general? Yeah, it was
a shock. I think use the word devastation it was devastating.
I think I didn't fully see it coming. I think
there were some signs with the time change and things
like that, but it really kind of caught all of
us just completely off guard, as I think the fans,
like all of us, were pretty shocked. So I'm devastated

(03:45):
and I'm still processing. I'm full of gratitude and grateful
for the years we had. I mean, for a show
to run seven seasons, that doesn't happen all the time,
So I'm grateful that we had the run we had.
I'm grateful to play the character I got to play.
I'm going to misplane her so much. She's not just
had an impact on the fans, which are the best

(04:06):
fans in the world, but she also had an impact
on me and getting to work with Stefani, getting to
play the marine a couple, getting to be a female firefighter,
and being empowered by that, and empowering the fans that
watch the show.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's I'm still processing it.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I'm still processing it, and it's going to take a
little bit of time, and it's probably going to hit
the hardest on what seems like will be our last
day of filming. But you know, they are trying to
save Station nineteen, and it is a hashtag and it
does trend, and we are doing everything we can to
try to convince the top dogs that it's worth saving.
I mean so much to so many, But yeah, I'm devastated.

(04:42):
I'm devastated and I'm still processing.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I understand that. I'm sorry you're going through that.
I think when people watch art TV films, you know,
whatever the media may be, you don't always realize how
much the project means to the artist, to the actor,
and it's not just a paycheck. And that's very obvious
with you and many people in that cast. It's a
deeply personal show. Did you find out recently? I mean

(05:06):
when did that all happen?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Recently? About the cancelation or recently about the impact it
has on people?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now you've known about the impact.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I know that because I have all the conventions and
how people reach out to you and what they write.
But about the cancelation, when did that happen?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
We wound out the day the day of, so the
way it kind of happened was basically, like I think
around like eight am, nine am.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't know the exact time.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Our bosses were told and then our bosses told production,
and then our production told the writers right before they
told us, but they had called in the writers to
come in. I think at like one, I think I'm
getting something like that. We got there at two two thirty.
They told us they knew there was going to be
a press release, or told there was going to be
a press release around four I think is the time

(05:48):
it came out, or five, and so we basically was
just a mad dash to try to tell everybody. Because
I have to applaud both Peter Page and Zoanne Clack
for making sure that every single person that played a
partner show, including the three hundred person crew, found out
before it became public.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
But it was such a quick rush and just trying
to feel all the emotions and I know that for
Peter and Zohan to go through all the motions, to
feel all the things, but also to be you know, leaders,
to make sure that, like everyone needs to know before
this comes out. At four, it was like we were
racing against the clock. So we found out and then
we immediately went down and announced it to the crew.
It was right after lunch, and we all hugged and

(06:28):
cried and then.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Got back to work.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
It was it was a yeah, it's I think we're
all still kind of like, Okay, every time we go
back to work, we're like, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, range well yeah, I was going to ask as
the tone kind of changed on set, because now you're
in this position where the final season and you want
to soak in every moment and be present and be
with your family that you've built over the last six
going on seven years. But has it changed kind of
the tone?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
You know, we're still having a great time and still
enjoying it, Like it feels the same with everyone.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Our dynamics feel the same.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
It feels like we're excited to come to set and
shoot the scenes we're shooting, and we still have the
passion we had before. It's not like people are like, oh,
it's the last season, I'm done, I'm checked out. No
one is like that, but there's this air of like
this is it. Like every day we're one step closer
to being the last day, and I think that kind
of that looming it's going to happen eventually. The gift

(07:24):
is is we have four months to kind of prepare
and to cherih all these moments and to take pictures
and to say the things we want to say to
the crew into the cast, and to set feature things.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Up and do all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
But we also know that it's happening, so you know
there's a looming thing that's there, but everyone's still excited
to be a part of the show and to show
up every day.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I don't want to go as far as to say
as I'm psychic, because I'm not. But I'm a very
I am a very intuitive person, and I honestly firmly
believe this is going to get picked up somewhere. So
I'm putting that out in the universe.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
From your lips to my please, please, please, please please, Yeah,
I would love. It's killing me to not get to
play my Bishop anymore. I loved playing her for the
seven years I've had the opportunity to that. To not
get to wake up and go get to play whatever
they have thrown at me for that, you know it's
gonna be hard.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So I hope I put it out there. Put it
out there too.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, I hope that your intuition is right.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yes, put it out there, put it out there. And
I love that You've said that a few times now.
How deeply personal. Playing my a Bishop is for you?
Why what has made her so magical for you over
the years.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
There's so many things at first that I related to
about her. I ladd with her, about her drive to
a fault, her perseverance, like a lot of things that
she had, the good and the bad. I really related
to this character at first, is how it started. You know,
I didn't know the impact it was going to have
on people that watched the show. But at first it
was just the fact that a lot of what she

(08:57):
said and did and who she was resonated with who
I was, And so I felt this connection because I
don't tend to see a lot of I mean, there's
now multiple firefighter shows, but how many female firefighters do
you see? How many strong, physically strong, not just mentally
strong female characters do you see on television? It's I've
been on auditioning since I was seven years old. You
don't come across it all the time. So I was

(09:18):
grateful to be able to play this character. I was
happy to dive in. I shared a lot with her.
Then when I realized the impact she had on so
many people, it added a whole different level, almost an
anxious level too, because I was like, oh my gosh,
everything mine now says and does really has an impact
on the people watching it, not just me. And so
then that obviously added a whole different layer to it.
Because even the season six playing the storyline of mental

(09:40):
health in Maya, I mean, I think we can a
lot of people can relate to going through some sort
of mental hurdle throughout their life, upset, turmoil, roller coaster,
and I obviously could relate in a lot of ways
to that as well, and to show that on television.
I've gotten such amazing feedback of how even that had
an impact on people, and it had an impact on me.
So I've been grateful to have a character that they've

(10:01):
given so much too in her evolution that then as
me as an actor, I've grown so much in my
personal life and as an actor, I mean, they've challenged me.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
And then the impact it has on the world.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
There's so many facets as to why I love playing
this character and why I'm so passionate about playing her.
And it's been a good ride and I hope it
doesn't end.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
And that's cool to hear because a lot of the
time you sometimes hear actors talk about being ready to
move on from a character or wanting to disassociate from
a character, which always kind of confuses me if it's
such a beloved character and someone that has meant so
much to so many, But you're like, I want more
time with this character. I want more time with her.
What has Maya taught you about yourself over all the years.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I mean recently, I think I've talked on it. It's
been like the work life balance when she went through
the mental turmoil. I think I'm the type of person
that also constantly keeps setting the next bar, the next bar,
the next bar, and I never end up just enjoying
the successes I've had, and I can never seem to
find that work life balance.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And I think through Maya, I kind of she.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Was forced to do it, and I was like, oh,
this is actually a good lesson for myself. I think
I learned that, but I also learned to be more myself.
I think Maya is such She's a person that she
is who she is to a fault, and we're watching

(11:26):
her unfolds and unravel and build herself up and tear
herself down. And I think she's kind of taught me
to kind of embrace who I am as a person,
except who I am as a person, and not be
afraid to express who I am as a person and
embrace the faults too. Like I don't know, it's hard
to actually put words to it.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Sometimes, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
It's kind of it's hitting me very deeply because I
feel like, what a gift to be able to learn
so much about yourself through the work that you do.
But I don't think you can learn about yourself unless
you're open enough and.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Aware to do that. Right.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's very easy to say, oh, that's my character and
that's their quirks and faults and things they go through,
and that's just what I'm playing. But to kind of
allow yourself to step into their mind in that intimately
of a way, I imagine that can also be as
exhilarating as it is exhausting.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah at times.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I mean Season six was an exhausting one. But also
I think you have to as an actor, put yourself
fully into a character. You really have to immerse yourself
into that person to really understand them.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
At least that's my process.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
So I couldn't see it any other way, and I
do think, and I've heard a lot of other actors
say this. I don't know if everyone feels the same way,
but you grow with every character you play. I've grown
every time I played a different character, whether it's that
I've learned. I've played, you know, some very unhinged person
and I'm like, Okay, I'm learning things I shouldn't do,
or I'm playing a really empowering person and I'm learning
a lot of things that I want to become and

(12:52):
change into. I think every character's changed me and has
left a part of them with me after I'm done
playing them. She has just had the biggest impact so far.
But it can be exhausting at times. There are definitely days,
Like I said, season six was a tough one. It
was hard to sometimes switch off after I'd have some
of those scenes with either the hospital scene with Stefania
and Kim or the scenes with Tracy Tom's, it was

(13:15):
hard to disconnection. I don't think most people know that,
Like most of all those Tracy Toms scenes were shot
in one day, so it was like come to set
and basically cry the whole day. And anyone that knows
me on set before action, I am usually someone that's
like bubbly and talking and asking like that. You usually
call me to set. Jordan, who brings us from basically

(13:35):
base camp to set, always is like I got it,
called Innielle fifteen minutes early, only because she stops and
talks to every single person along the way. I'm like, Ah, George,
how are the kids?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
You know, like Leilani, how's Jim?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Like?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm always stopping and talking to people, and I love that.
I love engaging with our crew. And on a day
like that, it's not just exhausting because of the emotional
turmole I'm having to play as the character but also
because I'm basically having to silence who I am as
a person.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I couldn't even interact with the crew that day, which
I hate doing.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I hate having to close myself off and not talk
to these people I love. I had to put my
headphones in and I had to look forward, you know,
because the crew for the most part, doesn't know the script.
They don't know what they're filming that day.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
So they didn't know.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
They just were like over the years, they now have
seen me in this headspace a couple of times, and
so they just know, like Danielle's happy to do something today,
but it's exhausting. And I remember when he finally finished,
and I was like, I looked at Paula Hunssinger and
director of the episode, and I was.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Like, are we done? Are we really done? You're not
going to like spring it on me the way with
one more And I literally just was like, oh.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
And then I was able to start being a little
bubbly and excited to talk to the crew and hug people,
and because I mean, I'm somebody that loves to hug
people and I get so much from that.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
So that was a really long answer.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I follow Jeza, Oh, it's super interesting. I love hearing
that sort of insight, and that's the purpose of the show. Look,
I work so many red carpets and junkets and it's
like three minutes, six minutes.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's if you're.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Lucky, this is the space to really do that and
I want to learn more. So thank you for being
so open with that. Of course, you mentioned Stefanya, and
your relationship with her character on the show means so
much to so many. I don't need to tell you that.
And what's so cool as a viewer is on primetime television.

(15:24):
It really was one of the biggest and most important
same sex relationships. Yes, you see it more and more
in streaming now, but primetime still is breaking through with it,
I would argue, And you guys have portrayed this beautiful
partnership with ups and downs and all the things in
between for years now. So what has it been like
exploring that relationship.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean so many elements to it. I've really loved
that we were able to be that couple on broadcast
network television. I think they've written it so beautifully. You know,
there's been some storylines that some people don't agree with,
but I'm proud to have played it.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Also because I think I naively thought before I started
the show that there's been a lot of change in
the world, that we'd had a lot of progression forward.
And it wasn't until and I played queer characters before.
I played characters that are part of the LGBTQI community,
but I've never played one on this scale. And to

(16:26):
hear people when I first the Steffanian Mya or sorry,
Crean and Maya relationship first started to hear people say
and people close to me be like, yeah, yeah, but
enough of the gay storyline. We wanted to see the firefighting,
and I was shocked to hear like, I'm like, they're like,
why does everything have to be about the same sex couple? Why?

(16:47):
And I'm like, wait a second, I was like, what
shows are you watching? Like? I was so infuriated that
it made it even more. I didn't realize we were
so behind still. I really naively thought that there. I
live in La I'm in the entertainment industry. I really

(17:08):
was like, Oh, this is the bubble we live in.
It's so accepted here and it's understood. It's why would
it not be? And then you realize on a global scale,
how or even now what I'm realizing even on a
local scale, that it's still something that it's it's infuriating
and it needs to still be represented. And the fact

(17:29):
that someone thought that that was too much representation for
them shocked me, blew me away, Like can't you just
get back to firefighting? I was like, these are real
life stories, these are ah and just to even have
the story of Maya coming out to her father, so
many things resonated with me. In playing as characters, so

(17:50):
much of it meant so much to me every time
someone came to me saying, I'm finally able to live
in my truth. I'm able to admit who I am.
I'm able to admit my sexual whether it was coming
out or I had women that were in their fifties saying,
I'm finally admitting who I am and I feel so
free and seeing this character meant so much to me,

(18:12):
so like talking about it, and also I think I
have so much anger right now because it is such
a needed couple and on network television specifically, and it's
going to be gone hopefully not, but it's.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Just meant the world to me. It's meant the world
to me.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
And discovering who I am myself too, which I you know,
and talking about who you are, and talking about who
I am.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
I shouldn't try to make it not about me, and really.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Realizing that in order for change to happen, you have
to speak up and you have to be willing to
play characters like this.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
That resonate with people.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That's beautifully said, and yeah it is. It is.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It is because you're touching on something that extends beyond
the screen. These are two women who are not just
characterist to so many people, they're they're saving grace and
to have that in the world, to your point, on
broadcast television is important and I agree with you completely.

(19:20):
I think that for as much as those storylines people
may think they see and think that, you know, why
do we have to keep talking about it, Well, compare
it to what's already out there. I mean, every other
project and piece of art is about heterosexual couple, So
why can't we have it all.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
And look at the world we live in.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I've also heard that sometimes they're like, why can't it
be a proper representation of the world, And I'm like,
it is, like and I get it some people now,
I get it that they're saying that.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I get the.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Understanding that people think, oh, where I live and in
my little bubble is the world. And I'm like, you're
missing such an amazing rest of the world that you
haven't seen, and this is a representation of the real world.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I just wish people would see.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
That instead of saying I don't want to see it,
they'd say, oh, that's what the world looks like.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, you'll forever be a part of that change. And
that's something that I hope you let that settle in
and sync in as you're working over these next four
months because it is super important the work that you're
doing and have done, and so many people are inspired
by it. And I think, oh, I don't even know
how you would answer this, because I'm not playing those characters.

(20:33):
But I don't know how I would answer this. But
do you know where you want that relationship to go?
As it kind of comes to an end in the series, I.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Just wanted to continue.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I think there's so much amazing which I've discovered, this
whole world of fan fiction, like, I want it to
live on. I want people to still be inspired by it,
whether they're making up the stories or or we continue.
But no, I think everyone knows. I mean not everyone.
I guess people watching us don't know fully. But I'm
really excited to see them be mothers. I'm excited to

(21:05):
see them excel in their careers further, but in a
healthy way. I'm excited for my to eventually maybe one
day be a captain at some station in Seattle. I'm
excited to see them. I'm really excited. I think what
I was getting at was to see them be mothers.
I think we didn't get enough time to really showcase that,
you know, we've touched on it. They've been trying, and
we won't get enough time to really see them be

(21:28):
mothers to mothers raising a child or children, and so
I want them to leave on that high note, hopefully
fingers crossed, because I don't know what the season's going
to be.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I don't think anyone fully even the writers are working
on it. Now you know know where it's going to lead.
But I just hope that we can leave on this
note of like they went into the sunset being happy
mothers who have their ups and downs and funny times
with their kids, and yet still are these independent, badass,
empowering women.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
And I think what I heard you say is at
the very least, we need to spin off with the
two of you. I believe that's what we just said.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
It was someone pitched this like funny, and I was
laughing so hard. It was like basically the Maya and
Crenas spin off or the Marina spinoff. That's a sitcom,
like a half hour sitcom of just them basically their house,
their apartment, their house whatever it is at the time,
and the children and basically they come home from work
from being a doctor, from being a firefighter and all

(22:25):
the sitcom takes place in the actual house and all
that ensues with them being mothers, And I thought, I
was like, that's actually kind of brilliant and I kind
of love it. And I love that it would be
this like kind of sitcom where you kind of get
to see the humor ensue, but still.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
The love be there.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's a genius idea.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It was such a genius idea to imagine too. I
was like, huh, we'll put it out in the universal scene.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
That's right, I keep putting things out. I love that.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You never know that would be so entertaining to watch, Dunielle.
There's been so many important storylines discussed on the show.
For you, what was one of the most impactful And also,
is there a storyline you've always wanted to discover that
hasn't been touched on yet in this show.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
I think the one last season, the season six, the
mental health one. For me, I think I really really
really resonated with that because it's so important. I have
such a big advocate for therapy. And I don't see
a lot of again, we'll go back to network television.
I don't see a lot of network television actors having
complete meltdowns and hitting rock bottom. And I thought that

(23:30):
was really important to start the conversation about, like therapy
is important and it's not something that's taboo or shouldn't
be talked about, because even that I was naive about.
I mean, I've grown up so much on the show
because I think I was so naive, Like I thought,
therapy is normal, you go to therapy. There's so many
people that you know, shy away from it, don't believe
in it, look at it as a weakness, and I didn't
know that. So that's been the most impactful storyline that

(23:53):
I got to play, and knowing the impact it had
on the world, I mean as an individual story, I
think Maye Krena have had the bigger impact as a whole,
but that one specifically, and it really mattered to me
because I think, first and foremost, mental health is the
most important thing. It's if I'm in a good mental
place in my life, I'm happier, things fall into place, more,

(24:18):
I'm willing to live in the moment more. Like I
learned so much through therapy that, Yeah, that was most impactful.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
On the flip side of that, is there a storyline
that you think maybe is edgy or controversial or not
talked about a lot, or something you don't really see
in various forms of art that you would have liked
to explore or still hope to explore on the show
and if not, the show in the future.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
I think the world of sexism in the workplace was
something that I didn't. We definitely touched on, but we didn't.
I think we shied away from really getting into it.
I mean we did with Dixon and a little bit
with Beckett and this earlier episodes and stuff like that,
but it always felt that we kind of shied away

(25:03):
from even with Natasha. You've seen it, You've seen it,
but I don't think is an accurate depiction of what
I've seen in real life. Yet I think we kind
of we always kind of fought it and knitted it
in the butt before it became a bigger issue. And
I think it is so prevalent and happens so much,
even if it's just I mean, just how women are

(25:24):
treated in a male dominated industry in general, and I
think that was something that never fully came into fruition.
We never really told that story versions of it, but
it never was a dedicated storyline of like this person's
having to deal with it and someone needs to be
held accountable or how to fix it. I think maybe
the answer is no one knows how to fix it.
Yet he's not sad it is beside showing up every

(25:48):
day and just proving yourself. It doesn't feel like it's
ever going to be changed until there's you know, more
equality and all of those elements and all those professions.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Danielle, last time we chatted, and one of my favorite
questions is, of course, what would you tell your younger self?
But I'm hearing it more and more now as people
talk more about mental health and being good to yourself,
which is great, So I want to flip it and
ask you, what is a piece of advice you will
give to yourself today. I think sometimes we negate the
adult versions of ourselves and we think we're supposed to

(26:26):
have it all figured out, and that's just not true.
I wake up some days and feel like a total
shit show.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah me too, Yes, agreed, Well, what would I tell
my current self? Just what would I right now, in
this moment tell my current self?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
All it keeps coming to my mind is.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Like it's Okay, everything's going to be Okay, everything is okay.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
That's where you're supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
As simple as that sounds, that's an incredibly powerful reminder.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I don't know how you feel, but sometimes it's that
I'm not where I'm supposed to be. I should be
achieving more, I should be accomplishing more. I feel like
a failure. I'm not enough of a success, which I've
done a lot of work on, but it still feels
like it's a daily reminder of like I feel like
it's just this is where I'm supposed to be, this
is how it's supposed to be, this is where I'm
supposed to be, and it's all okay.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, I think, beautifully said.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And it's also to piggyback on that trying to remember
to stay in the present and how hard that often is.
How do you remind yourself.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
To do that?

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I mean, it's a daily reminder usually when I start
to get into a headspace. And I love this word
that I've been throwing around a lot lately with catastrophized,
like when my brain starts thinking of worst case scenarios,
which obviously when we got the news, like my brain
went to worst case scenarios, I'll never work again, my
career is over. The Show's that like all these horrible

(27:56):
thoughts came in and even in that moment, and why
I bring that up, I had to be reminded, like, no,
you still have four more months on this show. You
have four months to try to figure out what you
want your future to be, to manifest it, to do
a vision board, to figure out, like what do I
see in my future and start heading towards it, and
live in like you're saying, be in the moment right now,

(28:19):
because all we have is now, right, Like I always
kind of do the same, like we are now, and
we have now and we have met, Like these moments
that go through life, that's all you have and then
they're gone. By being present, I'm able to remember all
of it, I'm able to feel all of it. I'm
able to kind of put it in my memory and
think back of like, oh, that time I had the
interview with Tommy, you know, like going back to.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Being in the present.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
If I hadn't been in the present in our first
interview that in the first interview I did with you,
I wouldn't have been so in the moment to say
what I.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Really felt, which was love yourself for yourself. Don't I
remember that?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Do you know? It's everywhere. It's everywhere now, everywhere.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
And I think those little moments or acting performances I
can go into, but that little moment specifically, if I
hadn't been able to be in the moment and be present,
I mean, I don't know where that came from. I
was just in the moment and authentically hearing you and
listening to myself, and I said it, and it meant
so much to so many people. And I think every
moment in my life that's been special has been a

(29:20):
moment where I've actually been present, I've actually taken it
all in and I cherish it and I'm grateful for
it and I love it. And it's just a good
thing to kind of instant really remind yourself of.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Are you proud of you?

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah, I'm proud of the person I am today, and
I'm proud of the person I hope I'm going.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
To be because I still what that's a good feeling.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I'm sure it is.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
I still have a lot of work to do, obviously,
we all do. I think that's our life. You're constant
I'm hoping to constantly evolve and change and grow. But yeah, yeah,
I'm proud of the person I've become.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I like hearing that, because again, it's something that, oh,
I think we all have to remind ourselves of and
to be gentler with ourselves. And I know you're going
through so much and I can't even imagine what that's like,
but I do know you have a whole community of
people who love you and who support you, and who
are so excited for the next four months of your

(30:22):
career and then to watch the series and to see
what happens after that. And I'm not kidding when I
tell you, I have been messaged by so many people
begging to get you on this iHeartRadio show, and they
remembered our interview from the Pandemic from my Instagram live
series that manifested into an iHeartRadio show that hit number

(30:43):
six in the world, And I'm like, how did this
even happen? It's because I had people like you on
my original series that people want to hear from.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
So it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Well, congratulations, I had no idea and made it to
number six. I had no idea that that was kind
of the trajectory too, like you're saying, I didn't realize that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I started the show during the pandemic because we all
needed something to do and I wasn't going to a
studio and I just went Rogan, created it and turned
into this.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
That's pretty amazing. Are you proud of the person you
are today?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
I am proud of the person I am today. I've
taken some big leaps of faith over the last year
and returned back to doing some stuff that I've always
wanted to do, and I'm doing it and I'm proud
of that professionally, and I'm proud of the husband I am.
And like you said, I have work to do. I'm
not perfect. Every day I wake up when I want
to be better, But overall, I know I lived my

(31:36):
life with kindness and with my best foot forward, So
that makes me feel good.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's a beautiful way to put it, that you live
your life with kindness. I think that's Kindness is such
an important word that I think I feel like I
need to put more into my vocabulary.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, it's a good word to put in so very
important question because I know people are already starting to
think about this. In your cast and crew from all
of my friends who work on set. Do you know
what you're going to be taking from the set? Do
you have something like if anyone touches this, I will
cut you.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I don't yet. Oh my gosh, I think I.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Know now, though.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Suspends.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I think it's Maya's helmet.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Why, I don't know. It was just it was.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Just yeah, my gut was like, that's one thing I
would love to have and cherish put in my house
and like be a reminder it would be my bishop's helmet.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Amazing, solid choice. Well, keep your eye on that closely
over the next few months. Okay, I'll let her mail.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, now, it might go missing. I'll be like, I'll
give at least a heads up.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I'm a horrible person at trying to like break the rules.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I'm such a real follower, so I'll probably be like.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It might go missing. I'm giving your heads up. If
it does, maybe I know where it is.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
That's amazing. Yes, keep your eyes on that. And Dane, well, lastly,
this show is called I've never said this before, and
you're so open and gracious with what you share with
all of us, you know, throughout the years, and you
really are somebody that I think people have connected with
because you have been such an open book. But I'm wondering,

(33:17):
is there anything else that comes to mind that you've
never said before, whether it's deep or silly or whatever.
Does anything come to mind?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's so interesting because this is the name of the show.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
My brain has been like doing somersaults, thinking of like
what could I say?

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Da da?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
And like we kind of just said I'm someone who
lives in the present, and I try to just like, okay,
just go.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
In the moment, what would I say?

Speaker 4 (33:39):
And then I was also in this pattern of like, oh,
I've got to tap myself.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I like I said that.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Amazing thing the first time, like we had this and
it resonated with so many people, and then I was like, no,
I can't. I can't plan, I can't prep, but I
can't like think. And so in the moment, I'm just
gonna sit here for a second and think, what's the
one thing I've never said before? Right?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
M hm?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Cause like you said, I'm an open book. There's so
many things I've said. I feel like I've said it all.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Okay, I guess we'll go funny. The things that are
coming to my mind are like little weird quirks about
myself that no one probably knows when I guess this
is so random too, look at what's coming here. It's
like when I sleep, most people like I sleep so

(34:29):
still and so quietly. This is the only thing I
could think of that like, no one knows about me
because no one knows me when I sleep. People have
literally had a check to see if I'm alive at
times because I'm so still and I'm so quiet and
I don't move.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
That's one thing that popped my mind.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
And I also sleep in a sweater, sweatpants and socks.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Ooh, my worst nightmare.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Everyone the amount of crap I get that I sleep
and all those things are like, what's wrong with you?
And I was like, I'm always cold and sometimes all
wake up in the morning and like there's clothes that
have been taken off because I got hot. So when
I go to bed, I'm so cold that I'm always
in like a sweater and sweatpants and socks.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
And it's the most.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Unsexy thing, Like it'd be like I sleep in a
lingerie every night. No, no, I sleep in a sweater
and sweatfants and socks and it's so unattractive. And then
I lay there all bungled up in my sheets and
I don't move and I am very quiet. That's kind
of a tidbit about myself that I I guess I
haven't told anyone before.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's amazing and hysterical. And I'm the exact opposite. I
have air conditioning on in the winter, two fans blowing
on me like bare bones, nothing like I can't be hot,
So that's hysterical.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah, you're basically like little as possible, I'm assuming, Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
On the exact opposite.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
And I feel like that's such a disappointment of an
answer because it's not like more insightful.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But I think, like you said, I've I've said everything.
I'm not sure what else to say.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
You have.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
You've You've said so much throughout our conversations and throughout
the years, and even in this interview. There's certain things
you've said that I didn't ask that question, but you
then said it in response to what that question's answer
should be. And I'm like, oh, that could be that moment,
or that could be that moment. So I think people
listening to this are going to actually get quite a
lot that you maybe haven't said before, especially related to

(36:11):
everything going on in your life right now. So for that,
I truly thank you. And lastly, I know you've seen
the fan campaigns and all of the petitions. I even
tweeted a petition out, so.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I did my part.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Of course, of course, what does all of their support
mean to you? And how can people continue to support
because I know that's a big question right now.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
The support means everything.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
It's meant everything the entire time movement on the show,
and it continues to mean the world to me. To
be part of a show that's had such an impact
is really what the big thing is. The whole overall
message I hear when I see this support is that
this show has had such a positive impact on the
world we live in, which we need more shows like that.
But what people can do is sign the petition. There's
a GoFundMe to raise money, even a dollar, just to

(36:58):
get certain things out there that they could do.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I know there was a billboard. I know there's going
to be like a flyover by with a play like.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
I know there's things happening too, and I'm trying to
actually keep on top of everything. But signing the petition,
I'd say is like the biggest one. Going to fan
websites or fan sites and voting for the show, is
your favorite show, your favorite.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Characters, whoever they may be.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
I'm trying to remember all of them off the top
of my head, but the biggest one is the save
Station nineteen hashtag using that and really going and signing
the petition and getting as many people as you can
to sign in that petition. I know people are sending
letters to ABC, and I wish I had a crystal
balls to like where it would end up, Like is
it that ABC could possibly save it? Or is it
that it.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Would end up somewhere else?

Speaker 4 (37:38):
And if it ends up somewhere else, I mean, how
do you who and how and where?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
I think I'm really impressed by the fan base and
how dedicated they are to just getting the word out
there that this show is an amazing show and it
deserves to be saved. And I don't know what saving
it looks like, but I do hope that what they're
doing and how doing it resonates with the world as
a whole. But yeah, sign the.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Petition, Sign the petition, and I would say, keep creating
as much noise as possible. And I have seen a
few comments saying I'm canceling my cable and I'm not
gonna support the final season so they see how mad
we are. But don't do that, because don't do that,
we want you to watch.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's definitely.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I wouldn't be interested to hear what their opinions are
about that, just so I can understand it more. But no, definitely,
you have to show how much the show is loved.
I think that's what you know. Basically, if the show
was moved to ten pm, which ratings always go down
when you're at a ten pm slot anyways, we all
know that in the industry, it's just harder because people
go to bed, so live ratings always just go down.
If the ratings stay high as high as they were

(38:46):
at eight pm, it's hard to ignore that. It's hard
to ignore that a show at ten PM is maintaining
the ratings of an eight PM show in the present
environment we're in, which, as we know, streaming is taken
over people watching things after they've aired, so to have
people continue to watch it live at ten pm and
just show they're watching. It really says a lot about

(39:08):
the show and I think would get people's attention.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I think that's what it is, like.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
I think you said it perfectly by saying you got
to keep making noise. Yeah, And I think I said
that at first when it happened, I was like, this
is the marathon, not a sprint. Is it's constantly making
noise for the next four months plus because it's until
that show actually stops airing, which I think won't be
till the beginning of May, I think, or in May
something like that, And so I think it's basically a.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Marathon of like making noise until the last episode airs.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
There we go, let's get loud everyone. I am so
into that. Let's keep doing it. And Danielle, really thank
you for coming on. I know that while we celebrated
you in the show and your work and got to
talk about all sorts of inspirational things, we talked about
this and that's not an easy topic because it is
so raw and emotional, but it's one that I know
the fandom has been wanting to hear more of and

(39:58):
especially wanting to know how you were doing personally. So
I think it was really important to have this conversation today,
and just as a nothing opinion on my end, I
think and hope you remain so proud of everything you've
done and the work you've created, and the artist and
person you've become, and that no matter what happens with
the show, because anything can happen, no matter what happens,

(40:21):
you finish this season knowing you gave it your all
and that you have made a forever impact on so
many people's lives and pretty much, I'm going to say,
change the world for many people. So don't lose sight
of that and try to remember that as you're wrapping.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Up this season.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Look it, you almost got me at the end some
moment where.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I mean it.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
I'm very uh, I'm very proud, and thank you for
saying all of that. It's always a joy to talk
to you. And it's amazing to just discuss the impact
the show has had in the fan base that exists
because of it. In the now, I'm gonna lost for
words now I can't ramble anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Oh well, you don't need to thank you again for
coming on and I look forward to many, many, many
more conversations in our future.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Name and best of luck.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I'm so proud of everything you've accomplished too, from our
Instagram to now.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Congratulations to you as well.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Thank you. I will hopefully see you very soon.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, yes, absolutely, I've.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Never Said This Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario.
This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio
and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've
Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran
podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
For more, rate review.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
And subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode,
tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy de Dario

Speaker 4 (42:00):
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