November 25, 2020 • 41 mins
There are some things white people love doing that Laiya, Jill, and Aja would never do. Then there are things that white people love doing that Laiya, Jill, and Aja would recommend to their Blackest of Black friends. These are some of those things. (Hot tub outdoors in the winter, anyone?)
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Jay dot Il, a production of My Heart
Radio Piece of Love. Y'all, Jill Scott presents Jay dot
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Ill with my sister Plans a job and and I'm
Jill Scott. What's up everybody? I hope you are doing well.
We are here chip check. You know how we do.
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We are going to talk about some white people ship
that we never thought in a million years that we
would be interested and more than that that we would
love it. Okay, okay, Well, I am immediately of the
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thinking that none of this is actually white people ship
at all. That I would I venture to say out
of the box that of the stuff we're gonna talk
about today, maybe even ninety originated with the blacks to
begin with, because it all started with us, because it
all the black can we can we add as we
do this list? Can we analyze? And really decided to
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start with the blacks? I like that. I like it
to Let's go forth. Who want to go first? Oh? Okay,
I'm gonna keep it simple. I got a couple of
these things. Okay, okay, So the first one is JACUZI
outside in the winter. I don't know if that's black
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people ship. You know, let's let's discuss that's that's that's
that's definitely not that's not black. Hai hai. However, however,
what I will say is that black people don't fun
with the cold. So we're gonna figure out a way
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to bring the summer situation into the winter situation at
some point. Let me say this, going skiing, let's start
off with the Poconotes. That's that's, that's level C. Let's
just go through the level C entry level skiing, snowmobiling
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on that. I saw every now and then some some
white folks outside in the baby and suits. I said,
these people are nuts. They are out of their entire
minds for being outside. First of all, in the cold.
It's freezing cold, it's snow on the ground. Stupid. That
was my opinion. Have you done that thing that rich
white people do? Have you gone to? Where is that
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in Ireland or Scotland where it's like snow and then
people jump into the warm springs. This is like a
thing where there's like stars in the sky that you've
never seen before. What is this place called? So, Willie,
this is a rich people ship. We're talking about black people,
but that's rich white. That's a rich white remix. This
is where I am with it. Okay, that's where I
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am with it, all right. So level a Aspen, going
to Aspen and seeing all of these white folks in
this jacuzy outside, it's it's for reason we walked by them.
We got on coats and hats and scars with gloves
and long times and and all of it, just trying
to stay warm, handwarmers, warmers in our shoes because we
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were black and it we used to being warm, or
want to be so we don't know much about this.
I talked more ship than a little bit about these
crazy fools. And then our friends that were with us
had on their baby suit and they went to the
JACUZI I stood by the window and I talked about
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them too. I said, trying to be here, trying trying
to be something. I don't even know what they're trying to.
My girlfriend calls him to brunch of blacks. I talked
about that. I talked about that the first trip, second
trip would go back to Aspen again, and I find it.
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I love this place because it's so low key and
and everybody is chilling. You know, they think I'm the
nanny or something, you know, which family. Are you with?
I was like, with family, are you with? I was like, okay. Anyway,
So at the time, I was married to l Boogie
Lizell what's up Lie? And yeah, So we were like,
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all right, come on, let's do this. Let's just do
it like we're here, Let's do it. Man. When I
tell you the walk to it, I cursed at myself.
I called my whoof fir and fur? I called myself
all kinds of dumb, dumb idiots, dumb bitches. I did,
I did, And I got in that water and it
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enveloped my body and it was cold outside, but that
fresh crisp air on the step of my head and
my whole body submerged in this hot ass boiling water.
When I tell you Heaven, Heaven, I was like, I've
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been missing this. This the relaxation, the whole juxtapose of
that super super hot and that super super cold. What
it did to my body. I got out the water.
I'm kid back to the room with my baby suit on.
What was on your feet? I had the boots that
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I put on, some boots. Pure white people fun weekend.
You was skin and in the jacuzy in the wintertime.
Oh no, it's skin and Aspen. Yeah that's level three. Yeah,
level three, level three, level three, it was level one.
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You got we're talking Switzerland. Na nag at the A game, Oh,
I said. When I say level one, I gots, I'm
thinking the opposite, like A one. But y'all going, okay,
one to Aspen and then after that would be Switzerland,
which every man, I'm gonna skip that though. I'm I'm
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I'm particularly black in my blackness, and now that I'm
over forty, it's a couple of things that over forty
black people ain't trying to do, is is be cold
and fall So I feel as if that time has
passed for me. That's safety. It's not forty were worried
about falling and breaking bones? Oh my god. Well, lets
and I have to say that I can't. I can't ski.
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I've I've hired several world class ski instructors, and I
cannot ski. I can go, I can get down the slope.
I can. My problem is that I cannot stop. I
can't stop into Okay, but your feet won't let you
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be my feet do it. But I still go. I
can turn to the side like you're supposed to like
that should. I can turn to the side, but I
still go. I don't know why I can't stop. I
have fallen into ditches, I have crashed into small buildings.
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I have crashed into a tree. I'm I could. I
fell off a lift as it was coming down. I
just got off too fast and busted my lip. But
I tried. And that's what it's about Black people trying
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these fun things that white people have a tendency to
do more than us. See, here's the deal, is that
they get an opportunity, or have had an opportunity to frolic,
to play, to enjoy. And this is this is kind
of new to a lot of it's to the you know,
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the idea of just enjoying life, the simplicities of life.
Going skiing in the winter. Some of us have had
that opportunity, but a lot of us from the hood
don't know what you're talking about, going outside and getting snowsall.
And so I just want to say, if you do
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things since you was little, by the time you get
in your twenties and thirties, it's like, okay, you you
got the vibe, right. We we out here to start things.
When we finally got enough money to go somewhere in
some disposable income. And we all here and these months,
been doing this mess generations, and I'm gonna say this.
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I'm gonna say this right here for me as well.
Some of the particular white ship that I won't do
is when I have to invest too much money in
equipment just to show up and suck at it. That
is fair. That's how I feel with skin camping camping.
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But somebody and bodies you want to glamping trip, you ago,
I am going glamping. In fact, I am planning. In fact,
I am planning something called gam uh. I mean no,
is it gamp No? What is it called glambe? Must
be still somewhere it's gam No. I'm still in the
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printing planning projects. It's all grown as woman camp Okay,
I'm killing all that, ain't m because I can't spell whatever?
Grown as women? Okay, Okay, So we got the jacuzy,
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the Jacuzy in the winter thing. I'm here to tell
you that that is a yes for me, yes at
any time, because that is some of the best rest
I've ever gotten. And that little juxtaposition between hot and cold,
it is fantastic feeling and invigorating. So there's my I
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want to try it. You should? You know what I
could try? That? I could that I could try you should.
There's no falling involved, and I think I could do it.
And I'll have to put my head under the water
because I wrote that down on my list. That's fun
things white people do. Swim at a moment's notice. Swim
at a moment's notice. Yes, what is that to like? Like,
let's go swimming. Wait a minute, did you look at
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my hair? I didn't get it braided? Hold on, I
have to go underneath the wait, so hold on, let
me just think because I think about what I'm gonna do.
Actively goes swim all were going out because hold on,
let me hold up. I don't know. I've given up
that ghost because I'm natural and I've been for a
long time and I know that there's gayles to wear
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and hats of all kinds. So I'm not tripping. I
love to go swimming. That that just makes me happy. Yeah,
I've been natural for a lot of years too. I
mean I did go through a period of time where
I had a sow in um and that was a
nightmare for I can't imagine you was da taking care
of it. I don't see. This is to see. This
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is what I don't like. See I try something and
then you want to put me out there like I
don't know what I'm doing. Like, listen, I've done all
the things. I didn't had wigs, so in the natural,
I've done all that. Remember that I had it for
a second. I did. I thought that was cute. I
was like, I had that. Ship is maintenance. I'm cool. Yeah,
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I can't take maintenance, the itching portion of the show.
I can't take that portion. Yeah, that's why I stopped
doing it. Can black girls use the clamps like the
white girls? Do you know how that dude used to
definitely use those? Now? Okay, alright, I don't know girls
were clamps. We clamped like hair clamps. You know how
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they just clamped their hair on top of their hair
and they make a weed like they it's their hair
right here and then underneath their like just clamp some pieces.
It's real fast. You ain't gotta just corn roll your
hair no more. See ship white people do. But now
we do it, and and that's that's great for us.
I will say that the wigs, the we've the soul
ends the clips and clamps. I promise you that that
was some white people should that black women took and
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now we have run with it like we all of
that that did not originate with us, and we have
become the masters of such. So that I'm at that
weaves now it's like you're looking at the white girl like, oh, girls,
it's just fortunate that we don't have a bigger steak
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or the steak in the hair business. That's that's the
unfortunate portion of the show. Well, the millennials are starting
to change that a bit. Yeah, I won't says yeah,
I won't say that that. You know, there was a
time where very easy to find a black woman who
will sell you some hair. And now what she man
you factoring the hair. Now now we have yeah, now
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we have black Malaysia to hope the whole thing. But
now we have black owned hair supplies, black on hair suppliers,
all that good stuff. It's the black people. The blacks
are getting all into. Yeah, I found a black beauty
supplot place in California. Shouts to beauty bees. I'm just
saying shout out, yes, um, can I do another white,
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fun white thing that maybe it's not as expensive, but
I'm glad that black people are now on it. No
go ahead, no, no, no, my ma, my mama. Man, girl,
you don't need permission from nobody in here, get it.
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I'm happy that black people are hiking now, and I
think that's something I just think that's something that can
be done on all coasts, you know. And I'm just
excited to see more black people as I hike on
mountains and we nod to each other. It's just nice.
I'm just saying that that was originally a white person's thing,
but we're hiking now, you know what we I'm gonna
I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna say that that's a
black thing because you like from from original so Philadelphia barefoot, Okay,
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that's not girl. I didn't come back to it so fast.
I didn't think about that, ma'am. Through the through the mountains,
through the mud, through the through the Guck Pass, and
the wolves. I guess the ancestors would being like, wait,
y'all walking just to be walking for for fun and fitness.
I guess that. Okay, I got it. I got it,
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Okay that we like it for freedom. I'm gonna claim ma'am, ma'am,
they just did a re enactment of a slave revolt
down in Louisiana, twenty six miles to re enact a
slave revolt, which they walked twenty six miles. Do you
hearing me from one plantations, from plantations to the next
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to try to set it all? Does that take cays?
I don't even know. You know, ma'am, I don't know,
and I don't want to know. That is a gigantic
shout out of praise, respect, and adoration, because even if
I had the newest Nikes and sunscreen bug spray, uh Nikes,
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that is not something that I don't want it down
miles with a machete in a muslin in a muslin dress.
Add add I don't even know what that is, but
that sounds hot. Just add barefoot, just add that just God, No,
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I think Harry, I haven't seen the movie yet, but
I think she had some shoes. Well that was the
second trip. The second trip she got shoes. Oh ship,
I just made that up, but I believe I believe
she was like, I'm gonna go back. See. That's how
a black history means getting made right here. That's how
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black history meme is getting made. Somebody went to the
computer just now was about to make a meme. Yeah,
but he second time. Second time, Harry didn't have no
shoes to the second trip. Shut up, I enjoy life.
She she figured that out? Was like, wait a minute.
That first time was I mean, everybody, um, you know
the first time we do something that's hard? Is I
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mean the second time she did it? The thirtieth times
she did it was hard. So please don't get me wrong. Okay,
all respect due to that woman, that fierce warrior. Okay,
what I'm saying is that she figured I'm sure she
had to figure that out. That that you know that
I can't make this trip. I don't want to make
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this trip barefoot again. Not again. Yeah, I saw Glory
it was you know that ship was suck up. You've
seen Denzel's feet. Yeah that was a movie, though, wasn't it?
Face got something real? This is where this is where
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others where this is? All right? And a man leave
you right, I haven't litten Come on, okay, okay, I'm
I'm gonna move. What was next? Freaking safari? I want
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to do that. I want to well is it wait?
Is it a culturally appropriate. Listen, I'm here to tell
you I got the hook up. I can't even the
latest detective So I know, you know, people, that's right
when I got When I got to Botswana, they were like,
we want you to be the travel spokesperson for Botswana,
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so we're gonna give you, um the golden ticket. I
went to five different safaris. You know what, just the
first time you're saying that you like the President of Bostwana,
I ain't. Man. I would have been gone, oh god,
oh my god. Okay. The first yes, please, The first
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time I went um, we were in Habard only, which
is a big city in Botuana. We flew from Habard
on it to my wound, that's another city. And then
we went from my wound by helicopter to the Kalajado desert.
Most people say the Kalahari, but it's you know, just
so you know what, I say it again, Yes, yes,
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First of all, that place is silent, scary silent. If
there's no buildings, there's no electricity to make that hum,
there's no cars. It is a gigantic desert. Never been
to that before, so of course, putting my foot down
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on the ground and realizing my foot on the ground
made no sound. Well, it was like being on the moon.
Blew mama, Blew mama. Yeah. I had a similar experience
outside of Vegas, which is clearly not just saying, let
somebody get Asia's where's she going? Trying to see y'all,
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y'all gonna have to look, y'all gonna give America is
not like apparison to the continent Cold go ahead of
Let's say it wasn't a kind of hotti. But I
had a similar experience, is what I'm trying to say.
What I'm saying is we drove out of Vegas because
I'm really not a big fan. Peace and love to
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whoever is from Vegas. They probably are not talked living
on the strip anywhere. But I'm not really a big
fan of Vegas. I'm an asthmatic. I can't do the
smoke whatever. So Fatina I drove out of the city
and just said, you know, we're just gonna drive out
and drive towards the Hoover. And then we went to
this other National park. And it's the same thing. When
you go out into the National Park, which is out
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in the desert, it's the same thing silence you under
saying like it's deafening. You go out there and it's
like there's nobody here, no wine. It's amazing, and it's
easy to not run into other hikers, like it's very easy. Okay,
I need you to add I needed to add animals.
I need to add wild animals that are minds. Okay,
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Snakes and birds for sure. There were not a lot
of uh, there were not a lot of of animals
in the desert. There was some zebra occasionally zebra. Okay,
there's a difference between zebras and zebras. What what what
is that? The president? I'm sorry off ye zebras are
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black with white stripes and zebras are white with black stripes.
Oh my god. Okay, y'all believe that's ship. Don't you
do your jail Scott boys and act like we're gonna
believe it. That's a bullshit. No zebras is zebras the
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same thing, just memes. Gonna tell somebody something. After we
get off the phone, I was literally writing it down
like I'm about to sell the kid to the kids. Okay, okay, okay.
So in the on the safari, they take you out,
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it's it's fantastic. My toilet was mahogany. Okay. My I
had an outdoor shower and an indoor shower and the
tub was made of brass. And listen, this is if
you're gonna do it, dog going it, save your money,
spend your time and do it. It's fantastic. They serve
breakfast every day, and and lunch and and and amazing meals.
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It's like blended Andrew Barrymore movie when they went to
South Africa to the safari. That must be what it's like,
because I don't know what I think, but I know
what this fantastic experience. And then you go to the
Okavanga Delta and that's a whole other safari that's in
the jungle, and you're minding your business, doing what you do,
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and a lion roars and the whole shuts the funk up, everybody, insects,
everybody black, grab it. I wanna go. It's amazing. You
feel the lions war all around you, everywhere, under your feet,
behind you, in front of you. You hear it everywhere,
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and everything stops. It is like it's a testament to
the glory of God and the power of of of
his creation with the green is so green, and the
animals they are funny. They are funny, they laugh at
each other. They sing at night, everything sings at night.
It's incredible. I would I don't know whether to believe
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her as you believe you have to have you have to.
It's literally I'm just saying, I'm just not gonna repeat
none of this. I'm here, I don't have time to lie.
I don't just gonna tell nobody, not until I go.
When I go, I'm like, okay, that's been authenticated. But no,
I will say this. I maintain just ea I was.
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I was in make you like be lying something from
the Lady detective girl bybe Okay. I'm just going with
safari as some white people ship that we definitely need
to take over, like we definitely need to enjoy that.
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I have to say this several of the things that
we talked about so far. Again, I just feel like
luxury items too though, like yeah, that's okay, but I
got I'm no, I got something. I mean, hiking wasn't luxury.
Hiking is not luxury. Well no, because you can listen,
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let me tell you something. You can hike in Philly
and most people don't even take advantage of hiking and
Philly and the what's the hickens and seeing all the
beautiful hidden statue and stuff in the poor So I
hid in your local area. I ain't calling a board alright, Alright,
that I went to with the hicking trail for the
first time this year, I'm gonna just go ahead and
put it out there. That's my first time, and I
was really really impressed. That was in the middle of
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They have the ladder falls. Yeah, they have wonderfalls. They
also have something called the Devil's Pool and people just
be jumping off, like swinging on that rope, which brings
me to other things that white people do that I
did try when I was in Costa Rica. You jumped
off a rope? Is swinging on that rope when you
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swing on the rope and then jump in the water.
Did you do it in time? Did you? I did
it in time because I watched ridiculous. That's like you
know in time. However, I did have to hold my
nose because I got scared. So it was it went
from being free like the white people to being like
the I had to. I had to. They just jumped
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in any direction you had to say that, and my
left titty came out because I had one of um
on like a band do bikini. Why did you have
a band do bukini on g cup? First of all,
because they needed this big brown love out there, girl,
I had to be out. And if I was gonna
be out in the forest and the waterfall, girl, they
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was gonna get all this brown around here? Can I
say that in this conversation. Another thing that came up
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between the two what you guys just said that I
noticed that fun things that white people do the black
people might not do. White people explore their cities that
they live at, and a white people knew about the
the Hicking Trail. No shade to you, to you Asia,
because the white no, don't know You're right Hick Trail.
So I'm like, but people seem to really know the
(27:38):
intricacies of their towns, like the fun things. I don't know.
It's weird. Well, no, I mean you're right. I accept that.
I know that I do get into a comfort zone
with my space and with you know, where I where
I live. I like my little coffee shop, I like
my little this and my little dad, and I'm really
comfortable in my in my neighborhood, and forget that the
(27:58):
city is as big as it is, and you know,
you venture other places and you're like, oh wow, this
is really nice or this restaurant or this little shopping
district or this kind of thing. You're absolutely right. But
I will say this much. One thing that helped me
to see the city more was supporting black businesses because
there's no black business district and if you go out
of your way to support black businesses, you end up
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going all over the city. Here. Here, that's a good
way to see the city. That's actually, that's nice. We've
just been able. There's there's more um, you know, luxury
finance than we've ever had, and there's more desire to
get off the black than there ever was. You know,
even if you go back to the block just to
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go outside of it and expand you know, is now
a real desire. And I think that's who's up. I
think y'all think that social media and people being able
to like see others travel and do their things as
your fire folks to kind of you know, spread their way. Yeah,
(29:02):
I mean, we didn't have a travel noir. You know
what I'm saying now, we have a website where we
can just find out about all aspects of black travel
around the world. Like that's amazing, and you can actually
see black people at a Safari travel group. There are
black travel groups now, like they all over Facebook like
and that that would just be my dream, like just
to get black people to lead a country, you know,
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and and black kids to be able to lead a country.
So because once you leave the country and you see
other things, you want to go somewhere else next with
my next place, Well, how am I gonna do it?
I gotta work a little harder. I gotta pay attention
to school. I mean that's that's that is true. And
once you get outside of your block, you know what
I mean that, So once you get out of the
side of your block, the more you see, the more
you want to do. The more you do, the more
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you want to That's just the way it works. And
all tho you have a thing, there's a thing where
black folks just what's available to us. Sometimes we just
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don't feel comfortable in places. And that's just that white
gaye thing where we're feel uncomfortable going to places we
think we don't belong there. Um, I've experienced that with
my family times when we've taken the kids on certain
trips or to do something on activity and we're the
only black family there, and oftentimes we might spend ten
(30:27):
fifteen minutes talking about it. Finally I put my foot down.
I was like, I don't want to hear nothing else
about us seeing the only black people here. I don't
want to talk about it. I don't even want to
address it because I'm like, we're so worried about how
these white folks are seeing us. We're not even having fun.
We're not even having fun, Like, forget all of that.
Stop being worried about where you belong and where you
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don't belong. And this is that another we're joking around,
But why about what white people do? But at the
end of the day, it's that thing in the back
of our minds that say things are not for us,
when it's all when the world is for us, it's
all for us, And that that was a whole black
his episode. No, that's that's relative. When I moved my
grandma to Mount Laurel, New Jersey from Lord Philly, she
(31:12):
she got out the car was a total surprise that
she was moving. I just told him to pack. I mean,
they didn't know where they were going, but they you know,
I told him to pack, so they did. And when
she saw her house and the flowers and everything, and
she said, are they gonna let us stay here? You
know that's that's She's born in nineteen seventeen, you know,
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so she had seen it's all. She was there for
the thirties and the forties and the fifties and the sixties,
you know, the whole gam it. She saw it all.
So you know, there's still I think a certain amount
of fear, like you said, Agia, that you're gonna get
somewhere and you're not gonna fit in, or you're they're
gonna you know, you're gonna feel uncomfortable. Like after a while,
(31:57):
it started to tickle me that every time I went
to ask when they thought I was a nanny, and
whose family are you with? I'm with King Joffrey Joffer's family.
Fuck you, That's what I'm with, Like we have to ask. Well,
I was just I was just reminder all black fools
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that are considering going into these spaces to know that
everywhere we go, we have labor. And even when they're
trying to act like you don't they feel it, So
enjoy the feeling. You know what I'm saying, I don't mind. Well,
I don't do this, but I have a girlfriend who
just ventured into it, and she has um actually meshed
together this idea of like wellness spaces like yoga into
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like an active resistance. So it's like specifically about creating
yoga specific but all wellness spaces that are geared towards
black people. And I also follow this page on Instagram
called the NAP Ministry that now this sounds interesting. The
NAP Ministry US and she talks about how she has
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created this space to fight capitalism, to fight white supremacy,
but mostly she's speaking from a womanist perspective. So even
though she's never been specific that this wellness space is
geared towards black people, she's never said, oh, this is
only for black people. She has centered the black woman
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and her needs as the inspiration for and the voice
for the space. So I kind of liked the idea
of you know, and things about wellness resting. Oh my god.
Her mission we examine the liberating power of naps. We
believe rest is a form of resistance and reparations we
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installed NAP Experiences. What follow nap? I'm following girl, and
it's my face even placed love being you know what,
it's such an interesting place to be because it's not
is it? That's the question I'm gonna ask you, ladies.
Um uh is it that we are trying to um
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distance ourselves from everybody else? Or are we trying to
celebrate and uplift ourselves. It's the middle of all kinds
of middles in there, right Talk to me like we
didn't always like it started with what we were talking
about earlier, about having the access to some of these
things that now we're enjoying, right, like not even haven't
(34:38):
thinking we have the time because of our daily activities.
And then wait, what was the second option you said, Jill?
You said the last one you said? Is it distanting
ourselves or is it uplifting ourselves? Well, I don't know,
because see, for me, I think a certain amount of
distance is needed in order to heal once self. So
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if we're going through something as an individual, you might
decide to sequester yourself just a little bit. Oh, I
need my space, you know, um, in order to heal,
So I need to kind of create a healing space
for myself first and then invite others into it. So
I think, yeah, there is a bit of distance that's
there that I mean, and I think it's really necessary.
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But then also the part about uplifting ourselves, uplifting yourself
also too, and and we just talked about it, talked
about it in terms of that ministry is the centering
of oneself. A lot of times, it's not that we
don't want to share spaces. It's just that we don't
want to go into a space that um either hasn't
considered us or it doesn't look at us as normative.
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So we're always in addition, where the little where the
sprinkles on top, we would like to be the actual
ice cream. We would like to normalize us being at
the center. Yeah, but I'm just saying I really appreciate
these thoughts, you know, because is that it's something that
we should consider if we are just distancing ourselves. Because
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I know this, I know, I know that if the
aliens came tomorrow, I don't care who it is that's
gonna help me, And I don't think anybody would care
if I were to help them. I think they'd be
so happy. You know to get some help. Make sure
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you know you're just in the right hands when it's
time the revolution come to when the aliens come, When
the aliens come, When the aliens come, they'd be doing
told they're being told the eliens. All the black people
live down now on a knife from Baltimore, go get them.
Y'all ain't remember Cosmic Slot when they did the episode
where all the people that were darker than the brown
paper bag gotta go looking for Cosmic Slot. I've been
(36:50):
looking for what can't I find it? They don't want
you to. I can't find it, and I've been looking.
Why can't I find it? Do you remember that episode?
Do you remember that? I don't remember anything. I need
to see that. Why is it hiding from me? I'm
gonna find it for you, because, yeah, it feels you
(37:11):
hook me up. Do we have one last white people
ship that we would like to highlight on today's show.
I'm gonna just go ahead and say freedom man, Well
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then yes, yes, mother Joe, I'm gonna go ahead and
say freedom, teach mother Free? How do you say? How
you say free? But what's your sad? How do you
do that? Fred? Fred? Fred? Free? Don't free don't. Oh, yes, freedom, amen,
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I'm here for it, wild and lipt, fancy free with yes,
free of fear, honey. Isn't that what Nina Simone said? Yes, amen,
amen to not. I mean, I'm certain that everybody praised,
you know, or or or something like it on their
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way or the children's way, you know, out into this world.
Because the world is a lotted it can be crazy.
I'm certain of these things. But that's a different kind
of prayer, y'all. It's a different kind of prayer when
it's a black woman and her children or a black
father and his children. It's a different kind of prayer
because we don't know where, you know, we don't know how,
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and right outside, typically right outside the door, is a
whole world waiting to devour our children. Yes, yea, yeah,
I'm all away into that. I'll take some of that.
I'll take all you can get. How do you eat
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We are here chip check. You know how we do.
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We are going to talk about some white people ship
that we never thought in a million years that we
would be interested and more than that that we would
love it. Okay, okay, Well, I am immediately of the
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thinking that none of this is actually white people ship
at all. That I would I venture to say out
of the box that of the stuff we're gonna talk
about today, maybe even ninety originated with the blacks to
begin with, because it all started with us, because it
all the black can we can we add as we
do this list? Can we analyze? And really decided to
(01:31):
start with the blacks? I like that. I like it
to Let's go forth. Who want to go first? Oh? Okay,
I'm gonna keep it simple. I got a couple of
these things. Okay, okay, So the first one is JACUZI
outside in the winter. I don't know if that's black
(01:54):
people ship. You know, let's let's discuss that's that's that's
that's definitely not that's not black. Hai hai. However, however,
what I will say is that black people don't fun
with the cold. So we're gonna figure out a way
(02:14):
to bring the summer situation into the winter situation at
some point. Let me say this, going skiing, let's start
off with the Poconotes. That's that's, that's level C. Let's
just go through the level C entry level skiing, snowmobiling
(02:36):
on that. I saw every now and then some some
white folks outside in the baby and suits. I said,
these people are nuts. They are out of their entire
minds for being outside. First of all, in the cold.
It's freezing cold, it's snow on the ground. Stupid. That
was my opinion. Have you done that thing that rich
white people do? Have you gone to? Where is that
(02:57):
in Ireland or Scotland where it's like snow and then
people jump into the warm springs. This is like a
thing where there's like stars in the sky that you've
never seen before. What is this place called? So, Willie,
this is a rich people ship. We're talking about black people,
but that's rich white. That's a rich white remix. This
is where I am with it. Okay, that's where I
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am with it, all right. So level a Aspen, going
to Aspen and seeing all of these white folks in
this jacuzy outside, it's it's for reason we walked by them.
We got on coats and hats and scars with gloves
and long times and and all of it, just trying
to stay warm, handwarmers, warmers in our shoes because we
(03:40):
were black and it we used to being warm, or
want to be so we don't know much about this.
I talked more ship than a little bit about these
crazy fools. And then our friends that were with us
had on their baby suit and they went to the
JACUZI I stood by the window and I talked about
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them too. I said, trying to be here, trying trying
to be something. I don't even know what they're trying to.
My girlfriend calls him to brunch of blacks. I talked
about that. I talked about that the first trip, second
trip would go back to Aspen again, and I find it.
(04:21):
I love this place because it's so low key and
and everybody is chilling. You know, they think I'm the
nanny or something, you know, which family. Are you with?
I was like, with family, are you with? I was like, okay. Anyway,
So at the time, I was married to l Boogie
Lizell what's up Lie? And yeah, So we were like,
(04:44):
all right, come on, let's do this. Let's just do
it like we're here, Let's do it. Man. When I
tell you the walk to it, I cursed at myself.
I called my whoof fir and fur? I called myself
all kinds of dumb, dumb idiots, dumb bitches. I did,
I did, And I got in that water and it
(05:09):
enveloped my body and it was cold outside, but that
fresh crisp air on the step of my head and
my whole body submerged in this hot ass boiling water.
When I tell you Heaven, Heaven, I was like, I've
(05:31):
been missing this. This the relaxation, the whole juxtapose of
that super super hot and that super super cold. What
it did to my body. I got out the water.
I'm kid back to the room with my baby suit on.
What was on your feet? I had the boots that
(05:53):
I put on, some boots. Pure white people fun weekend.
You was skin and in the jacuzy in the wintertime.
Oh no, it's skin and Aspen. Yeah that's level three. Yeah,
level three, level three, level three, it was level one.
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You got we're talking Switzerland. Na nag at the A game, Oh,
I said. When I say level one, I gots, I'm
thinking the opposite, like A one. But y'all going, okay,
one to Aspen and then after that would be Switzerland,
which every man, I'm gonna skip that though. I'm I'm
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I'm particularly black in my blackness, and now that I'm
over forty, it's a couple of things that over forty
black people ain't trying to do, is is be cold
and fall So I feel as if that time has
passed for me. That's safety. It's not forty were worried
about falling and breaking bones? Oh my god. Well, lets
and I have to say that I can't. I can't ski.
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I've I've hired several world class ski instructors, and I
cannot ski. I can go, I can get down the slope.
I can. My problem is that I cannot stop. I
can't stop into Okay, but your feet won't let you
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be my feet do it. But I still go. I
can turn to the side like you're supposed to like
that should. I can turn to the side, but I
still go. I don't know why I can't stop. I
have fallen into ditches, I have crashed into small buildings.
(07:47):
I have crashed into a tree. I'm I could. I
fell off a lift as it was coming down. I
just got off too fast and busted my lip. But
I tried. And that's what it's about Black people trying
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these fun things that white people have a tendency to
do more than us. See, here's the deal, is that
they get an opportunity, or have had an opportunity to frolic,
to play, to enjoy. And this is this is kind
of new to a lot of it's to the you know,
(08:28):
the idea of just enjoying life, the simplicities of life.
Going skiing in the winter. Some of us have had
that opportunity, but a lot of us from the hood
don't know what you're talking about, going outside and getting snowsall.
And so I just want to say, if you do
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things since you was little, by the time you get
in your twenties and thirties, it's like, okay, you you
got the vibe, right. We we out here to start things.
When we finally got enough money to go somewhere in
some disposable income. And we all here and these months,
been doing this mess generations, and I'm gonna say this.
(09:11):
I'm gonna say this right here for me as well.
Some of the particular white ship that I won't do
is when I have to invest too much money in
equipment just to show up and suck at it. That
is fair. That's how I feel with skin camping camping.
(09:33):
But somebody and bodies you want to glamping trip, you ago,
I am going glamping. In fact, I am planning. In fact,
I am planning something called gam uh. I mean no,
is it gamp No? What is it called glambe? Must
be still somewhere it's gam No. I'm still in the
(09:56):
printing planning projects. It's all grown as woman camp Okay,
I'm killing all that, ain't m because I can't spell whatever?
Grown as women? Okay, Okay, So we got the jacuzy,
(10:18):
the Jacuzy in the winter thing. I'm here to tell
you that that is a yes for me, yes at
any time, because that is some of the best rest
I've ever gotten. And that little juxtaposition between hot and cold,
it is fantastic feeling and invigorating. So there's my I
(10:38):
want to try it. You should? You know what I
could try? That? I could that I could try you should.
There's no falling involved, and I think I could do it.
And I'll have to put my head under the water
because I wrote that down on my list. That's fun
things white people do. Swim at a moment's notice. Swim
at a moment's notice. Yes, what is that to like? Like,
let's go swimming. Wait a minute, did you look at
(11:00):
my hair? I didn't get it braided? Hold on, I
have to go underneath the wait, so hold on, let
me just think because I think about what I'm gonna do.
Actively goes swim all were going out because hold on,
let me hold up. I don't know. I've given up
that ghost because I'm natural and I've been for a
long time and I know that there's gayles to wear
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and hats of all kinds. So I'm not tripping. I
love to go swimming. That that just makes me happy. Yeah,
I've been natural for a lot of years too. I
mean I did go through a period of time where
I had a sow in um and that was a
nightmare for I can't imagine you was da taking care
of it. I don't see. This is to see. This
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is what I don't like. See I try something and
then you want to put me out there like I
don't know what I'm doing. Like, listen, I've done all
the things. I didn't had wigs, so in the natural,
I've done all that. Remember that I had it for
a second. I did. I thought that was cute. I
was like, I had that. Ship is maintenance. I'm cool. Yeah,
(12:05):
I can't take maintenance, the itching portion of the show.
I can't take that portion. Yeah, that's why I stopped
doing it. Can black girls use the clamps like the
white girls? Do you know how that dude used to
definitely use those? Now? Okay, alright, I don't know girls
were clamps. We clamped like hair clamps. You know how
(12:26):
they just clamped their hair on top of their hair
and they make a weed like they it's their hair
right here and then underneath their like just clamp some pieces.
It's real fast. You ain't gotta just corn roll your
hair no more. See ship white people do. But now
we do it, and and that's that's great for us.
I will say that the wigs, the we've the soul
ends the clips and clamps. I promise you that that
was some white people should that black women took and
(12:49):
now we have run with it like we all of
that that did not originate with us, and we have
become the masters of such. So that I'm at that
weaves now it's like you're looking at the white girl like, oh, girls,
it's just fortunate that we don't have a bigger steak
(13:10):
or the steak in the hair business. That's that's the
unfortunate portion of the show. Well, the millennials are starting
to change that a bit. Yeah, I won't says yeah,
I won't say that that. You know, there was a
time where very easy to find a black woman who
will sell you some hair. And now what she man
you factoring the hair. Now now we have yeah, now
(13:37):
we have black Malaysia to hope the whole thing. But
now we have black owned hair supplies, black on hair suppliers,
all that good stuff. It's the black people. The blacks
are getting all into. Yeah, I found a black beauty
supplot place in California. Shouts to beauty bees. I'm just
saying shout out, yes, um, can I do another white,
(14:20):
fun white thing that maybe it's not as expensive, but
I'm glad that black people are now on it. No
go ahead, no, no, no, my ma, my mama. Man, girl,
you don't need permission from nobody in here, get it.
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I'm happy that black people are hiking now, and I
think that's something I just think that's something that can
be done on all coasts, you know. And I'm just
excited to see more black people as I hike on
mountains and we nod to each other. It's just nice.
I'm just saying that that was originally a white person's thing,
but we're hiking now, you know what we I'm gonna
I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna say that that's a
black thing because you like from from original so Philadelphia barefoot, Okay,
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that's not girl. I didn't come back to it so fast.
I didn't think about that, ma'am. Through the through the mountains,
through the mud, through the through the Guck Pass, and
the wolves. I guess the ancestors would being like, wait,
y'all walking just to be walking for for fun and fitness.
I guess that. Okay, I got it. I got it,
(15:34):
Okay that we like it for freedom. I'm gonna claim ma'am, ma'am,
they just did a re enactment of a slave revolt
down in Louisiana, twenty six miles to re enact a
slave revolt, which they walked twenty six miles. Do you
hearing me from one plantations, from plantations to the next
(15:54):
to try to set it all? Does that take cays?
I don't even know. You know, ma'am, I don't know,
and I don't want to know. That is a gigantic
shout out of praise, respect, and adoration, because even if
I had the newest Nikes and sunscreen bug spray, uh Nikes,
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that is not something that I don't want it down
miles with a machete in a muslin in a muslin dress.
Add add I don't even know what that is, but
that sounds hot. Just add barefoot, just add that just God, No,
(16:45):
I think Harry, I haven't seen the movie yet, but
I think she had some shoes. Well that was the
second trip. The second trip she got shoes. Oh ship,
I just made that up, but I believe I believe
she was like, I'm gonna go back. See. That's how
a black history means getting made right here. That's how
(17:05):
black history meme is getting made. Somebody went to the
computer just now was about to make a meme. Yeah,
but he second time. Second time, Harry didn't have no
shoes to the second trip. Shut up, I enjoy life.
She she figured that out? Was like, wait a minute.
That first time was I mean, everybody, um, you know
the first time we do something that's hard? Is I
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mean the second time she did it? The thirtieth times
she did it was hard. So please don't get me wrong. Okay,
all respect due to that woman, that fierce warrior. Okay,
what I'm saying is that she figured I'm sure she
had to figure that out. That that you know that
I can't make this trip. I don't want to make
(17:47):
this trip barefoot again. Not again. Yeah, I saw Glory
it was you know that ship was suck up. You've
seen Denzel's feet. Yeah that was a movie, though, wasn't it?
Face got something real? This is where this is where
(18:10):
others where this is? All right? And a man leave
you right, I haven't litten Come on, okay, okay, I'm
I'm gonna move. What was next? Freaking safari? I want
(18:36):
to do that. I want to well is it wait?
Is it a culturally appropriate. Listen, I'm here to tell
you I got the hook up. I can't even the
latest detective So I know, you know, people, that's right
when I got When I got to Botswana, they were like,
we want you to be the travel spokesperson for Botswana,
(18:58):
so we're gonna give you, um the golden ticket. I
went to five different safaris. You know what, just the
first time you're saying that you like the President of Bostwana,
I ain't. Man. I would have been gone, oh god,
oh my god. Okay. The first yes, please, The first
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time I went um, we were in Habard only, which
is a big city in Botuana. We flew from Habard
on it to my wound, that's another city. And then
we went from my wound by helicopter to the Kalajado desert.
Most people say the Kalahari, but it's you know, just
so you know what, I say it again, Yes, yes,
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First of all, that place is silent, scary silent. If
there's no buildings, there's no electricity to make that hum,
there's no cars. It is a gigantic desert. Never been
to that before, so of course, putting my foot down
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on the ground and realizing my foot on the ground
made no sound. Well, it was like being on the moon.
Blew mama, Blew mama. Yeah. I had a similar experience
outside of Vegas, which is clearly not just saying, let
somebody get Asia's where's she going? Trying to see y'all,
(20:28):
y'all gonna have to look, y'all gonna give America is
not like apparison to the continent Cold go ahead of
Let's say it wasn't a kind of hotti. But I
had a similar experience, is what I'm trying to say.
What I'm saying is we drove out of Vegas because
I'm really not a big fan. Peace and love to
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whoever is from Vegas. They probably are not talked living
on the strip anywhere. But I'm not really a big
fan of Vegas. I'm an asthmatic. I can't do the
smoke whatever. So Fatina I drove out of the city
and just said, you know, we're just gonna drive out
and drive towards the Hoover. And then we went to
this other National park. And it's the same thing. When
you go out into the National Park, which is out
(21:11):
in the desert, it's the same thing silence you under
saying like it's deafening. You go out there and it's
like there's nobody here, no wine. It's amazing, and it's
easy to not run into other hikers, like it's very easy. Okay,
I need you to add I needed to add animals.
I need to add wild animals that are minds. Okay,
(21:36):
Snakes and birds for sure. There were not a lot
of uh, there were not a lot of of animals
in the desert. There was some zebra occasionally zebra. Okay,
there's a difference between zebras and zebras. What what what
is that? The president? I'm sorry off ye zebras are
(22:04):
black with white stripes and zebras are white with black stripes.
Oh my god. Okay, y'all believe that's ship. Don't you
do your jail Scott boys and act like we're gonna
believe it. That's a bullshit. No zebras is zebras the
(22:25):
same thing, just memes. Gonna tell somebody something. After we
get off the phone, I was literally writing it down
like I'm about to sell the kid to the kids. Okay, okay, okay.
So in the on the safari, they take you out,
(22:45):
it's it's fantastic. My toilet was mahogany. Okay. My I
had an outdoor shower and an indoor shower and the
tub was made of brass. And listen, this is if
you're gonna do it, dog going it, save your money,
spend your time and do it. It's fantastic. They serve
breakfast every day, and and lunch and and and amazing meals.
(23:08):
It's like blended Andrew Barrymore movie when they went to
South Africa to the safari. That must be what it's like,
because I don't know what I think, but I know
what this fantastic experience. And then you go to the
Okavanga Delta and that's a whole other safari that's in
the jungle, and you're minding your business, doing what you do,
(23:29):
and a lion roars and the whole shuts the funk up, everybody, insects,
everybody black, grab it. I wanna go. It's amazing. You
feel the lions war all around you, everywhere, under your feet,
behind you, in front of you. You hear it everywhere,
(23:50):
and everything stops. It is like it's a testament to
the glory of God and the power of of of
his creation with the green is so green, and the
animals they are funny. They are funny, they laugh at
each other. They sing at night, everything sings at night.
It's incredible. I would I don't know whether to believe
(24:13):
her as you believe you have to have you have to.
It's literally I'm just saying, I'm just not gonna repeat
none of this. I'm here, I don't have time to lie.
I don't just gonna tell nobody, not until I go.
When I go, I'm like, okay, that's been authenticated. But no,
I will say this. I maintain just ea I was.
(24:42):
I was in make you like be lying something from
the Lady detective girl bybe Okay. I'm just going with
safari as some white people ship that we definitely need
to take over, like we definitely need to enjoy that.
(25:09):
I have to say this several of the things that
we talked about so far. Again, I just feel like
luxury items too though, like yeah, that's okay, but I
got I'm no, I got something. I mean, hiking wasn't luxury.
Hiking is not luxury. Well no, because you can listen,
(25:30):
let me tell you something. You can hike in Philly
and most people don't even take advantage of hiking and
Philly and the what's the hickens and seeing all the
beautiful hidden statue and stuff in the poor So I
hid in your local area. I ain't calling a board alright, Alright,
that I went to with the hicking trail for the
first time this year, I'm gonna just go ahead and
put it out there. That's my first time, and I
was really really impressed. That was in the middle of
(25:52):
They have the ladder falls. Yeah, they have wonderfalls. They
also have something called the Devil's Pool and people just
be jumping off, like swinging on that rope, which brings
me to other things that white people do that I
did try when I was in Costa Rica. You jumped
off a rope? Is swinging on that rope when you
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swing on the rope and then jump in the water.
Did you do it in time? Did you? I did
it in time because I watched ridiculous. That's like you
know in time. However, I did have to hold my
nose because I got scared. So it was it went
from being free like the white people to being like
the I had to. I had to. They just jumped
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in any direction you had to say that, and my
left titty came out because I had one of um
on like a band do bikini. Why did you have
a band do bukini on g cup? First of all,
because they needed this big brown love out there, girl,
I had to be out. And if I was gonna
be out in the forest and the waterfall, girl, they
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was gonna get all this brown around here? Can I
say that in this conversation. Another thing that came up
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between the two what you guys just said that I
noticed that fun things that white people do the black
people might not do. White people explore their cities that
they live at, and a white people knew about the
the Hicking Trail. No shade to you, to you Asia,
because the white no, don't know You're right Hick Trail.
So I'm like, but people seem to really know the
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intricacies of their towns, like the fun things. I don't know.
It's weird. Well, no, I mean you're right. I accept that.
I know that I do get into a comfort zone
with my space and with you know, where I where
I live. I like my little coffee shop, I like
my little this and my little dad, and I'm really
comfortable in my in my neighborhood, and forget that the
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city is as big as it is, and you know,
you venture other places and you're like, oh wow, this
is really nice or this restaurant or this little shopping
district or this kind of thing. You're absolutely right. But
I will say this much. One thing that helped me
to see the city more was supporting black businesses because
there's no black business district and if you go out
of your way to support black businesses, you end up
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going all over the city. Here. Here, that's a good
way to see the city. That's actually, that's nice. We've
just been able. There's there's more um, you know, luxury
finance than we've ever had, and there's more desire to
get off the black than there ever was. You know,
even if you go back to the block just to
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go outside of it and expand you know, is now
a real desire. And I think that's who's up. I
think y'all think that social media and people being able
to like see others travel and do their things as
your fire folks to kind of you know, spread their way. Yeah,
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I mean, we didn't have a travel noir. You know
what I'm saying now, we have a website where we
can just find out about all aspects of black travel
around the world. Like that's amazing, and you can actually
see black people at a Safari travel group. There are
black travel groups now, like they all over Facebook like
and that that would just be my dream, like just
to get black people to lead a country, you know,
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and and black kids to be able to lead a country.
So because once you leave the country and you see
other things, you want to go somewhere else next with
my next place, Well, how am I gonna do it?
I gotta work a little harder. I gotta pay attention
to school. I mean that's that's that is true. And
once you get outside of your block, you know what
I mean that, So once you get out of the
side of your block, the more you see, the more
you want to do. The more you do, the more
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you want to That's just the way it works. And
all tho you have a thing, there's a thing where
black folks just what's available to us. Sometimes we just
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don't feel comfortable in places. And that's just that white
gaye thing where we're feel uncomfortable going to places we
think we don't belong there. Um, I've experienced that with
my family times when we've taken the kids on certain
trips or to do something on activity and we're the
only black family there, and oftentimes we might spend ten
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fifteen minutes talking about it. Finally I put my foot down.
I was like, I don't want to hear nothing else
about us seeing the only black people here. I don't
want to talk about it. I don't even want to
address it because I'm like, we're so worried about how
these white folks are seeing us. We're not even having fun.
We're not even having fun, Like, forget all of that.
Stop being worried about where you belong and where you
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don't belong. And this is that another we're joking around,
But why about what white people do? But at the
end of the day, it's that thing in the back
of our minds that say things are not for us,
when it's all when the world is for us, it's
all for us, And that that was a whole black
his episode. No, that's that's relative. When I moved my
grandma to Mount Laurel, New Jersey from Lord Philly, she
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she got out the car was a total surprise that
she was moving. I just told him to pack. I mean,
they didn't know where they were going, but they you know,
I told him to pack, so they did. And when
she saw her house and the flowers and everything, and
she said, are they gonna let us stay here? You
know that's that's She's born in nineteen seventeen, you know,
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so she had seen it's all. She was there for
the thirties and the forties and the fifties and the sixties,
you know, the whole gam it. She saw it all.
So you know, there's still I think a certain amount
of fear, like you said, Agia, that you're gonna get
somewhere and you're not gonna fit in, or you're they're
gonna you know, you're gonna feel uncomfortable. Like after a while,
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it started to tickle me that every time I went
to ask when they thought I was a nanny, and
whose family are you with? I'm with King Joffrey Joffer's family.
Fuck you, That's what I'm with, Like we have to ask. Well,
I was just I was just reminder all black fools
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that are considering going into these spaces to know that
everywhere we go, we have labor. And even when they're
trying to act like you don't they feel it, So
enjoy the feeling. You know what I'm saying, I don't mind. Well,
I don't do this, but I have a girlfriend who
just ventured into it, and she has um actually meshed
together this idea of like wellness spaces like yoga into
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like an active resistance. So it's like specifically about creating
yoga specific but all wellness spaces that are geared towards
black people. And I also follow this page on Instagram
called the NAP Ministry that now this sounds interesting. The
NAP Ministry US and she talks about how she has
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created this space to fight capitalism, to fight white supremacy,
but mostly she's speaking from a womanist perspective. So even
though she's never been specific that this wellness space is
geared towards black people, she's never said, oh, this is
only for black people. She has centered the black woman
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and her needs as the inspiration for and the voice
for the space. So I kind of liked the idea
of you know, and things about wellness resting. Oh my god.
Her mission we examine the liberating power of naps. We
believe rest is a form of resistance and reparations we
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installed NAP Experiences. What follow nap? I'm following girl, and
it's my face even placed love being you know what,
it's such an interesting place to be because it's not
is it? That's the question I'm gonna ask you, ladies.
Um uh is it that we are trying to um
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distance ourselves from everybody else? Or are we trying to
celebrate and uplift ourselves. It's the middle of all kinds
of middles in there, right Talk to me like we
didn't always like it started with what we were talking
about earlier, about having the access to some of these
things that now we're enjoying, right, like not even haven't
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thinking we have the time because of our daily activities.
And then wait, what was the second option you said, Jill?
You said the last one you said? Is it distanting
ourselves or is it uplifting ourselves? Well, I don't know,
because see, for me, I think a certain amount of
distance is needed in order to heal once self. So
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if we're going through something as an individual, you might
decide to sequester yourself just a little bit. Oh, I
need my space, you know, um, in order to heal,
So I need to kind of create a healing space
for myself first and then invite others into it. So
I think, yeah, there is a bit of distance that's
there that I mean, and I think it's really necessary.
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But then also the part about uplifting ourselves, uplifting yourself
also too, and and we just talked about it, talked
about it in terms of that ministry is the centering
of oneself. A lot of times, it's not that we
don't want to share spaces. It's just that we don't
want to go into a space that um either hasn't
considered us or it doesn't look at us as normative.
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So we're always in addition, where the little where the
sprinkles on top, we would like to be the actual
ice cream. We would like to normalize us being at
the center. Yeah, but I'm just saying I really appreciate
these thoughts, you know, because is that it's something that
we should consider if we are just distancing ourselves. Because
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I know this, I know, I know that if the
aliens came tomorrow, I don't care who it is that's
gonna help me, And I don't think anybody would care
if I were to help them. I think they'd be
so happy. You know to get some help. Make sure
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you know you're just in the right hands when it's
time the revolution come to when the aliens come, When
the aliens come, When the aliens come, they'd be doing
told they're being told the eliens. All the black people
live down now on a knife from Baltimore, go get them.
Y'all ain't remember Cosmic Slot when they did the episode
where all the people that were darker than the brown
paper bag gotta go looking for Cosmic Slot. I've been
(36:50):
looking for what can't I find it? They don't want
you to. I can't find it, and I've been looking.
Why can't I find it? Do you remember that episode?
Do you remember that? I don't remember anything. I need
to see that. Why is it hiding from me? I'm
gonna find it for you, because, yeah, it feels you
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hook me up. Do we have one last white people
ship that we would like to highlight on today's show.
I'm gonna just go ahead and say freedom man, Well
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then yes, yes, mother Joe, I'm gonna go ahead and
say freedom, teach mother Free? How do you say? How
you say free? But what's your sad? How do you
do that? Fred? Fred? Fred? Free? Don't free don't. Oh, yes, freedom, amen,
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I'm here for it, wild and lipt, fancy free with yes,
free of fear, honey. Isn't that what Nina Simone said? Yes, amen,
amen to not. I mean, I'm certain that everybody praised,
you know, or or or something like it on their
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way or the children's way, you know, out into this world.
Because the world is a lotted it can be crazy.
I'm certain of these things. But that's a different kind
of prayer, y'all. It's a different kind of prayer when
it's a black woman and her children or a black
father and his children. It's a different kind of prayer
because we don't know where, you know, we don't know how,
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and right outside, typically right outside the door, is a
whole world waiting to devour our children. Yes, yea, yeah,
I'm all away into that. I'll take some of that.
I'll take all you can get. How do you eat
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an elephant? One? By? It time? How everyone eats? The
producer here? If you don't know, now you know that
it's resource time, the part of the show where we
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Since we're talking about things white people like. Today, we're
going to recommend some ways for you to find the
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one that's always sitting in front of your favorite local
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hosted by Jill Scott, Laia st Clair, and Aga Grad
and Danceller. It's executive producers are Jill Scott, Seawan g
and Brian Calhoun. It's produced by Laias st Clair and me.
He's Jeff Cote. The editing and sound design for this
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episode we're done by Taylor Chippin aa aa. I hate
to interrupt you. I'm sorry you said you were saying
black and older, but can you I can hear your
chewing on Mike, so if you can just pause for
a second. So I really want you to eat. I
really do. I want all my black people too. But
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I'm so sorry you're like, when you go to talk,
you need to not have food in your mouth. Okay,
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