September 14, 2023 • 31 mins
Chris Merrill fills in for John & Ken. Hunter Biden has been indicted on federal firearms charges. One of the members of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence freaks out people because of trying to indulge themselves in perpetuity. Guest Mike Dobuski joins the show to talk about UAW President Shawn and auto workers contract negotiations. The guy who escaped a county facility while awaiting transfer to a state prison in PA is captured. He was headed to Canada.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cam, I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Come Chris merrill in for the Boys. A huge news
today and Stephen Portnoy is our ABC News national correspondent
of Washington. And Stephen, we have a sitting president's son
indicted on federal firearms charges. And I can only assume
we're talking about felonies here. This is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And serious charges too. I mean, when you look at
the aggregate sentence that could be brought for conviction on
these three counts, twenty five years in prison.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Wow, So what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hunter Biden bought a handgun in twenty eighteen at a
time when he says in his book he was a
drug addict, a regular user of drugs, and there are
photographs of him posing naked with a pistol. There's photographs
of him with drug paraphernalia all on that laptop. So
today charges were brought, arges that almost never are brought
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in this way without being attached any kind of a
larger felony involving drugs or guns or violent crime. Oftentimes,
when a charge like this is brought, it's in connection
with other crimes so that prosecutors can obtain a stiffer sentence.
Oh okay, well, in this case, it's in a vacuum.
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And it's why Democrats and hunter Biden's defense lawyers say
that this is all part of political pressure being brought
to bear by Congressional Republicans upon David Weiss the Special Council.
What we do know is that this was something that
the Special Council's office was set to set aside as
part of an agreement with Hunter Biden where he was
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going to plead guilty to two tax related misdemeanors and
in exchange, he would have the felony gun possession charge
set aside in part of a diversion program. But now,
because those plea agreement negotiations fell apart over the summer,
the prosecutors are moving forward and they have brought this
three count indictment.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
All Right, Steven Portnoy, our ABC News national correspondent in Washington,
as we dive into what this means, since it is
something that is so rarely charged as a standalone here,
I mean, is it tried any differently? It would seem
that if they're pressing forward on this, the Court's treated
like any other case, although it is a little bit
odd that they're bringing something that is not normally charged.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, look, it's a standalone case because that's what the
way the prosecutors decided it should be. What's interesting is
it's being announced now. This is not the conclusion of
the Special Council's investigation into Hunter Biden. You know, there
are those tax charges that he was going to plead
guilty to. Those have not yet been resolved, so there's
more to come. Republicans in Congress say this is a
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small first step and a positive one, they say, but
they say that there ought to be more, and they say,
if there isn't more, and then it'll be a sign
that the Justice Department is covering for Hunter Biden. There
have been a lot of insinuation, a lot of innuendo,
a lot of suggestions speculation that Republicans have offered no
hard and fast evidence to convince the public that Joe
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Biden had anything to do with Hunter Biden and riching
himself by peddling the family name. But we'll see what
happens next. There's one thing that we're all sort of
watching for, and that is the possibility that the Special
Counsel's Office might bring charges related to the Foreign Agents
Registration Actor FARA. When the plea agreement became undone before
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everyone's eyes and the ears in open court in Wilmington,
Delaware at the middle of the summer, the judge who's
presiding over this bewildered by the document that was placed
before her contending language she'd never before seen. Picking apart
the fact that the two sides clearly had a difference
of opinion as to the scope and extent of immunity
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that Hunter Biden thought he was going to get from prosecutors,
she asked the prosecutors in that hearing whether they might
pursue charges of violating the FARA Act, the Foreign Agents
Registration Act, taking money for foreign entities to do their
bidding here in Washington without registering with the Justice Department
as a foreign agent as you're supposed to do. And
when the prosecutor said, well, maybe that really put Hunter
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Biden and his defense attorneys on their heels. So is
there going to be a FARA charge?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's interesting, Stephen. You in to make great point, Stephen Portanoy,
our ABC News national correspondent, about the timing on this.
Why not hold this charge until the Special Council might
be ready to drop more charges.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, the answer to that one is simple, and that
is the fact that because this process of dealing with
this particular account was already initiated. There is what's known
as the Speedy Trial Act, which governs the timing of
these proceedings. And in a filing a couple of weeks
ago in federal court, the prosecutor said, we understand our
obligations to act under the Speedy Trial Act. We understand
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our deadline is the end of September.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
On this gun chart.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We will beat that deadline. And they beat it today
announcing the three count indictments.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
All right, that makes perfect sense. Now what are we
looking at it as a timeline then moving forward? You know,
we've obviously the closest thing we have to compare this
too politically is the charges against former President Trump and
a number of his supporters and advisors. That has It's
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all over the board. The scheduling is could be October,
could be April twenty twenty six. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, no, Unfortunately, I don't have the answer you're looking for.
And I, frankly the first thing would be the initial appearance.
It is interesting that this Hunter Biden is a Secret
Service protectee, so I guess the Secret Service has some
experience now dealing with booking. So that'll be the first
thing to happen in Wilmington where Hunter Biden will have
to appear on these charges. He's now been indicted by
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grand jury. But how soon this will come to trial
and when what else is to come Our answers we
don't have now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I should also point out that this is a federal charge, right,
so this would fall and I'd love just being a
conspiracy theorist here. There's no reason to believe this would happen,
but it does fall under the purview of potential pardon,
would it not.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, Look, the White House has been asked about this.
They you know they First of all, they have tried
not to comment about today's indictment. The President ignored shouted
questions about it. But the idea that Hunter Biden would
be pardoned by his father is something that they really
don't want to even contemplate and have not wanted to address.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
No, of course they don't want to. But I just
love the I love the drama playing out in front
of US. Stephen Portenoire, ABC News National correspondent Washington for
their update on the Hunter Biden indictment the firearms charges.
Very informative, Stephen, thank you for your work on this.
I appreciate you. All right. I am fascinated by all
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of it. I'm fascinated by the politics behind all of it.
I'm fascinated that you've got the president's son that's just
been charged because, uh, basically there was the political demand
for it from the group that says that the DOJ
has been weaponized. I don't think that DJ has done
anything wrong in this case. I think the DJ is great. Look,
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you want to charge him, charge him, you want to
charge him with the with the other misdemeanor tax evasion,
charge him, you want to charge him with uh, with
the not registering at Farah. I think that's probably a
slam dunk. Yeah, I think all of that is probably
in the works. But it does sort of cut into
the whole weaponization thing that we've got members of the
Freedom Caucus insisting on as part of the verbiage and
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the upcoming the upcoming budget bill. They say, well, we
have to address the weaponization of the DOJ. While the
president's son is under indictment. It is a two way street,
and I just I'm here to watch Rome burn. I guess,
bring me my fiddle. All right, we'll talk about the
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sisters of perpetual indulgence, perpetually indulging themselves, because why wouldn't they?
That's next. I'm Chris merrill Ian for John Kin Today.
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Speaker 4 (08:12):
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Speaker 1 (08:19):
We got big strike on the horizon. Man. This has
been a weird year for strikes. I know, Year of
the strike, right, and I get that it's but it's
everything seems to be coming to a head here in September.
I don't know, Maybe we should do a before and
a half or what do you think? Who will end
their strike first? Now? The UAW may go on strike
(08:41):
starting I think tonight, right midnight, midnight tonight is what
it is, thank you? So who ends to the strike first?
UA w WGA, sag AFTRA or I think Tyser may
go on strike here shortly too, right? They authorized a strike? Yeah, yeah,
so who ends up? Who goes? Who finishes their strikings.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
First, I would say the car strike, the autoworkers strike.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I agree. I agree. Well, we'll dive into what their
contentions are. One of the things that they're asking for
is a bit ridiculous, but I think it's more of
a point than anything else, So it's certainly one of
those things that they can negotiate out on. So you're
familiar with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, right, that's the
group that was. They were invited to the Dodgers Pride Night,
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and then they were uninvited because America is losing their
minds about drag shows all of a sudden, and then
they got reinvited. Yes, yeah, okay, So now one of
the members of the Eureka chapter just got in trouble
in lolieda coastal community fifteen miles south of Eureka, Clinton Monroe.
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Ellis Gilmour allegedly made no attempts. This from the New
York Post is, which has basically become like the Washington Examiner.
North allegedly made no attempt to hide the perverted act
they're calling it on August twelfth, when he stopped off
in a public park and decided he was going to
perpetually indulge himself, or, as Shannon Ferrin called it, self care.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh no, no, no, I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You can't do self care? No, okay, Well here's there
are some details to this that are a bit succulent.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
There's that word again.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There it is okay. According to numerous witnesses, this dude
had been at the location for about an hour, sitting
in his truck with the door open, taking care of
business in an hour, thank you, that's what caught my eye.
To an hour. Wow. At some point we call it
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doctor because things are going on too law.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I was going to say, there's an issue there. You
think you got I was thinking the same, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Nowhere in the report is that is there any reference
to lotions or any other lubricants of the sort. I
am completely blown away by this. They do claim, according
to some witnesses, that basically he pulled over in this park,
he opened up one door and dropped a leg out
the side, and I guess I don't know that he
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was making eye contact, but he certainly wanted people to
see him, according to witnesses. One witness says that parked
two spots away from This person had the left leg
out the open door of the truck, right leg up
on the dashboard with no pants on, giving him a
full view of our perpetual indulgent sister taking care of them.
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But then another question comes to mind. Not only is
this guy going to town for an hour, but witness
is are what making sure he doesn't stop? To listen
this guy? Do you guys see what this guy's doing.
He's been doing it for like forty five minutes. We've
been watching the whole time. I would be watching me,
thank you. At some point, don't you go this is vile.
I'm gonna call the police and leave. Yes, But evidently
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they didn't. They didn't leave, They just told to. So
I think we've got a lot of problems all the
way around on this now. Of course, what's what's going
on is that this has been picked up, like I said,
by the New York Post. So what they're doing now
is they're basically saying, look, this guy is a pervert.
We knew everybody in that group was a pervert. They're
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all perverts, and this is what's happening to America today.
Are you sure you want to have that drag time
Story Hour at the library, because you know what they're doing.
As soon as they're done with that drag time Story Hour,
they're going right out to their cars and they're they're
opening the doors for an hour. And you also have
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to wonder, is it the first time? Oh, well, you
never know, Well, this isn't the first time.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It could be that's why it's taken so long. Oh,
but then nervous Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, I kind of forgetting.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I hope I don't get in trouble. But this is exciting,
But I hope I don't get in trouble. Or maybe
it's not the first time, so it wasn't as exciting,
and it took an hour. And again he.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Has an issue. Maybe he has some kind of a
health issue there, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, you know what does he need to be milked
every so often to avoid something?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
That perhaps I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I mean, don't you think that there's an issue if
it takes an hour?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I mean, I'm not a guy, so I'm not really
the one to ask.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, just from a human, from a human standpoint, how
do you keep your you're focus that well, you can't, right,
I mean even if even if a long time for
you is five minutes, maybe for some people it's not. Uh.
After about twenty minutes, doesn't your mind start to wander,
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especially if you're at a park and you go, oh,
they have puppies over there, did or maybe cramps got
to be something that goes on.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
He's superhuman.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Clearly you really the sister of perpetual indulgence. Truly is metaphysical.
I love you guys for it. All right, we uh,
we do want to get into the strike. Which strike, Well,
it's the latest strike. Of course we'll talk the right things.
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They're popping off all over the place.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Summer strikes.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Man, what happens with the ua W strike and what
does it mean to your next vehicle? It could have
an impact. That is next. I'm Chris Merrill k if
I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on your iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
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Speaker 1 (15:11):
Year of the strike. Right, we've got the Writers Guild
SAGA for those are the big ones that catch a
lot of headlines. We've got Kaiser Permanente is authorizing a strike. Oh,
speaking of SAG, I just got notice that SAG is
now asking to authorize for those in the video game sector.
Is that all voiceover stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Is it the Okay? So there's another there's another avenue
that may be striking. And we've got the hospital hotel workers.
That's another one that was that's got strikes going on,
and now it could be the UAW. Mike Dubuski is
ABC News Technology reporter. He's in Detroit, and what's the
(15:55):
vibe there in Detroit? Mike, it seems like this is
a big deal for that city. Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Absolutely, Yeah. So I'm actually sitting here at the Detroit
Auto Show. You might actually hear some cars screeching around
in the background here. That's the electric vehicle test track
that they have set up. Yeah, I know, the theater
of the mind here. We got to do what we
can in radio. But yes, the vibe, the mood of
the Detroit Auto Show, this sort of pre eminent North
American Auto Show, is all about the strike and the
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concern by organizers here and by sort of the city
of Detroit, is that a potential UAW strike, a historic
one is that would overshadow this auto show that has
struggled in recent years, especially since the pandemic, so the
whole city's talking about it. I went to a whole
bunch of automotive press conferences yesterday and just overhearing people talk,
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it is all all about this UAW strike that's kind
of looming.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So if the UAW does go on strike, it doesn't
mean everybody shuts down, right, just certain plants will go
on strike, and we don't even know which ones those
are yet.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, that's right. So what Sean Sayin is proposing here
is certain workers will walk off the job and others
will remain working under the existing contract, which by that
point you'll have expired. And the goal there is basically
two fold. One, Sean Fain, who's the president of the UAW,
says that allows them to sort of laser target to
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really hit the Big three where it hurts. The other
part of this is purely logistical. The UAW has a
strike fund, basically a big bucket of money, and by
only allowing some people to walk off the job, that
prolongs the life of that strike fund. That allows them
to potentially strike for longer, if that's indeed what they
want to do. So that is kind of their logic here.
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It does not look like everybody's going to walk off
the job if the deal is not reached by midnight,
by the stroke of midnight's night, eleven fifty nine Eastern.
But that is kind of the lay of the land
here as a stand.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Mike Debuski is a ABC News technology reporter. He's in Detroit,
as you mentioned, at the auto show in his scene center.
We love to call that in radio, Mike, what where
are the sticking points? What's going on here? I know
that the auto workers are asking for an astronomical raise,
but that seems to be more of a point that
they're trying to make rather than an actual demand.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. So the latest information we have
is that the UAW is asking for a thirty six
percent wage increase. That's down slightly from the forty percent
figure that they initially were targeting. There, the reinstatement of
pensions for all members, revised retirement benefits, a thirty two
hour work week, a four day work week. Yes, those
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sound like big demands and they are again. UAW President
Sean Fain does not shy away from that. He calls
their demands audacious and ambitious. But their whole argument here
the UAW is that in the year since the Great Recession,
the big three American automakers, meaning General Motors, Ford, and Stilantis,
have seen skyrocketing profits in Shawn Fame for It's they're
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rolling in the money and the blue collar American workers,
the union members, have not seen their wages go up
in correspondence with that profitability from the top. That's their argument. Now,
it's worth mentioning that the automakers say that they need
this extra money to speed the transition to electric vehicles.
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The cars that are behind me right now are electric vehicles.
There's this big electric vehicle test tracks that they've set
up here, and those cars are really complex to build.
A lot of automakers are pouring tens of billions of
dollars into making this transition, and the automakers say they're
going to need that money if this is going to
happen by twenty thirty five, which is what various world
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governments have legislated, is going to need to be the
year that we make the jump over to electric vehicles.
So there many of the considerations that they're having right now.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
There has to be some concern mic over from the
unions that there may be plants that close, not assembly
plants necessarily plants that make the parts for internal combustion
engines that are going to be shuttered simply because of
the transition to electric Is that part of the contention here.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, So it's estimated that between twenty and thirty percent
less labor is required to build an electric car. They are,
from a purely mechanical point of view, less complex than
a gas powered car. That's not to say that they're
not very sophisticated in high tech, but when it comes
to the moving parts, the component tree of electric vehicles,
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there's just less of it. And obviously that is a
concern for a union that is built on having people
put parts for cars together. So the very nature of
electric vehicles the uawc's as a threat to their very
existence and to the continued profitability of their members, And
that's kind of hanging over all this discussion as well.
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Another part of this too, that I know is also
worth considering is that the automakers are making the argument
that they have to remain competitive against car makers that
don't use union labor force. It's the car that just
drove by me right now, is a Tesla. Tesla does
not employ union workers, and the Big three say that
if they are to a seede to the uaw's demands,
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they're not going to be competitive. They're just not going
to be profitable when that's the competition that's out there.
So you know, again a lot of different considerations to
weigh as these hours stick down.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We saw another threatened strike just last month, and that
had to do with the teamsters at UPS, but that
was sort of an eleventh hour save. If you were
an odds maker, what would you say, as far as
odds go, are we going to see an eleventh hour
save on this one?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, I'll say this. At ten PM tonight, Sean sayin
UAW president is going to hop on another live stream
and announce the first round of local unions that are
going to walk off the job. Right again, not everybody's
going to walk off at once. It doesn't seem like
he's going to announce specifically who is in structed to
walk off the job. That's two hours before the contract expires.
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That is the potential to tighten the screws on the
automakers as they enter that the negotiations and sort of
final minutes. Whether that will make any difference, I think
remains to be seen. A lot of it is up
in the air, and a lot of this is happening
behind closed doors. It's worth mentioning too, a lot of
this negotiation happened at the headquarters of all of these
automakers here in Detroit, but in recent days we learned
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that the negotiations are actually happening at UAW headquarters, so
Sean Fain doesn't have to be in three places at once.
So a lot of it's still out in the area.
It's going to be really fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, it is fascinating, and I'm just wondering if this
means are we going to see an evolution toward electric
faster or does it slow down the evolution toward electric vehicles.
And obviously we've got deadlines set here in California as well.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely again. You know, the question of electric
vehicles in some ways is inevitable. Right, Both California and
the European Union of legislated that twenty thirty five year
be the last year you sell new gas powered cars,
which means that they're going to have to be powered
by something else. You know, there are hydrogen powered cars
out there, there are cars powered by other alternative methods,
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but electric power is the predominant one, and that's kind
of just how it needs to be. So there's a
part of this where the carmaker's hands are being forced
to comply with that based on the development cycles and
how long it takes to build a new car, especially
a car that uses a form of propulsion that we're
not used to. But again, yeah, it's a really fascinating
time to be following the car market because just so
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much is happening right now.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Mike Debuski is our ABC News Tech reporter. He's in
Detroit at the Auto Show. Mike, thank you so much
for your time today. A pleasure catching up with you.
Speaking of catching up, uh, you bet. Speaking of catching up,
they've been taking almost two weeks. It took them to
try to catch up to this guy who just shimming
his way over some razor wire that takes gonads. Next,
(24:00):
I'm Chris Merrill kf I AM six forty. We're live
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Speaker 1 (24:13):
In for John and Ken today, pledsure pleasure up and
down being with you. I was just talking about all
the different strikes that are going on and what a
mess that's kind of playing out to be every time
and again, it's nice to have a distraction. And one
thing that captivates us better than just about anything else,
aside from maybe missing white women, is when you have
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an escape convict on the run. Boy, we are just wrapped,
aren't we?
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Just focus? Oh did they get him? What's the latest?
What's happening now? And there was something going on in
Pennsylvania that seemed strange. Not only did the guy escape,
the story took a lot of those weird twists and turns. Now, Debra,
maybe you remember some other escape stories that were fun
to follow, like when you got the escapees are running
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away because a guard fell in love with them.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that one.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, weren't there two of those? There was? Wasn't there?
There was the one in upstate New York where the
guard fell in love and two guys got out. And
then wasn't there one out of Alabama or Arkansas, one
of the southern A states, And I thought that was
a deal where the guard fell in love too. I
don't remember the exact detals. Anyway, This one in Pennsylvania
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was curious because the guy he kind of shimmied up
this wall and then he was able to get through
razor wire, two sets of razor wire on fences. And
I found this to be astonishing. I was talking with
Andrew Caravella, who's one of our news anchors. And Andrews said, well,
maybe it's because he's a little fella, and I said, well,
(25:50):
what do you mean by that? And he really he
pointed out that little fellas are very acrobatic. That's it,
you know, that makes good sense. You ever see Oceans eleven? Right, yeah,
they got the old fella is the acrobatic guy.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
This guy's what he's five feet right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
He's very short, he's very slight. And so I think
Andrew was basically proposing that the guy was able to
just Simon Biles his way up and around the fencing.
That's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I always thought those gymnasts would be really good at,
you know, covert operations, because they can just you ever
see those flips where they end up like fifteen feet
up in the air.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, but they practice a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah. Well if you're yeah, well that's special ops. You know,
you gotta practice right, So they found this dude. They
caught him yesterday, and the cops in the Keystone State,
which were acting like Keystone cops, were telling to everybody
all along, don't worry. He's gonna get tired and when
he gets tired, then he'll make a mistake. But we
won't get tired. And then it started raining and they said, well,
(26:50):
there's a lot of rain, so we're gonna stop searching
for tonight. That sort of thing happened constantly. It was
it was wonderful. He just kept saying, Ah, he'll get
tired and come back to us. He doesn't worked that way. Well,
finally they get a break and this was ABC News
was telling us exactly how they got the guy and
then what he said after they captured him.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
This morning. Convicted killer danilokval Kante back behind bars now
in a maximum security facility, two weeks after breaking out
of prison in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I always love the very serious newscasters. I'm going to
tell you the story in a very driving manner.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
You want me to do that?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Will you do that?
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
From the KFI news room, here's the information you have
to have. Love it.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Our nightmare is finally over and the good guys won.
The man hunt coming to an intense conclusion early Wednesday morning.
Cavalcante seen in that stolen Eagle sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Just ah, he's an Eagles fan, or at least he
was when he was stealing the shirt. I mean, listen,
if I escaped and I was on the run, and
I ran across like an Ohio State Buckeye sweatshirt, I
would just not steal it. I go, I won't even
be caught wearing that. Well, while I'm trying to survive,
You're not gonna catch me in a Buckeye sweatsheet. It
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won't happen. So for the guy who is at least
okay with the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Described by authorities as wet and weathered, the thirty four
year old detailing his survival in a four hour interview
with authorities.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
A wet and weathered thirty four year old, I think
I've met a few of those. After nine pm at
a hotel.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Barn, he did sail on three occasions. Law enforcement officers
did almost step on him. He also told us.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
What a minute, what officers did?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What?
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Now almost step on him?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, all right, so they just they almost.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Walked on him because he's so little and he was
hiding in thick brush.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
They almost almost stepped on him.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, this is like the ultimate game of hide and seek.
How nervous do you think?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
He was?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Oh my god, can you imagine, Oh my goodness, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like they get me.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They're gona get me, They're gonna get me. But then
they almost stepped on him and walked away, and he thought, wow,
I can't do that either, because I get gassy.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
He also told us that he survived by eating watermelon
the first couple of days. He stated he intended to
carjack somebody in the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh wow, I mean that's a good thing. They got
to know somebody was about to get held a gunpoint right.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
And that he was going to head north to Canada
or try to get out of the United States.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And okay, he was gonna head north to Canada. Dude,
don't go to Canada. Everybody knows you go to Mexico.
Everybody knows. That. Unbelievable. All right, back to the officer
who's giving us the update.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Here, or try to get out of the United States
and head back to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Hold on now, hey, hang on there he was going
to try to do what now.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Or try to get out of the United States and
head back to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
All right, this is once again, this is where our
education system is fail less. And this is why I
never really trusted the sheriff's there in that county in Philadelphia,
in Pennsylvania, because you know, they were sure that he
was going to get tired. They were sure that they
had him boxed into a certain search area. Come to
find out, the guy had stolen a dairy truck and
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driven thirty miles away. And now he says that he's
going to get out of the United States and go
to Puerto Rico. We're just we're not bright ante, And
once again I've got to hear this again.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Try to get out of the United States and head
back to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I think they met Portugal, that's where he was. Excuse me,
not Portugal, was it Brazil where he was originally Brazil.
But instead he says he's going to get out of
the United States and go to back to Puerto Rico,
which is part of the United States.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Well, you know they're exhausted from trying to catch this guy.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
You know, their brains are just not functioning at a
hundred percent, right.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, somehow the escapee was still functioning. Maybe they need
more watermelon in their diets and then they'll be able
to keep up with the guy. Good night, all right,
we'll get the latest on what's happening with COVID in
La County. That is next on Chris Maryland And for
John and kN k if I AM six Forting, we're
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Come Chris merrill in for the Boys. A huge news
today and Stephen Portnoy is our ABC News national correspondent
of Washington. And Stephen, we have a sitting president's son
indicted on federal firearms charges. And I can only assume
we're talking about felonies here. This is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And serious charges too. I mean, when you look at
the aggregate sentence that could be brought for conviction on
these three counts, twenty five years in prison.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Wow, So what are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hunter Biden bought a handgun in twenty eighteen at a
time when he says in his book he was a
drug addict, a regular user of drugs, and there are
photographs of him posing naked with a pistol. There's photographs
of him with drug paraphernalia all on that laptop. So
today charges were brought, arges that almost never are brought
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in this way without being attached any kind of a
larger felony involving drugs or guns or violent crime. Oftentimes,
when a charge like this is brought, it's in connection
with other crimes so that prosecutors can obtain a stiffer sentence.
Oh okay, well, in this case, it's in a vacuum.
(01:23):
And it's why Democrats and hunter Biden's defense lawyers say
that this is all part of political pressure being brought
to bear by Congressional Republicans upon David Weiss the Special Council.
What we do know is that this was something that
the Special Council's office was set to set aside as
part of an agreement with Hunter Biden where he was
(01:44):
going to plead guilty to two tax related misdemeanors and
in exchange, he would have the felony gun possession charge
set aside in part of a diversion program. But now,
because those plea agreement negotiations fell apart over the summer,
the prosecutors are moving forward and they have brought this
three count indictment.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
All Right, Steven Portnoy, our ABC News national correspondent in Washington,
as we dive into what this means, since it is
something that is so rarely charged as a standalone here,
I mean, is it tried any differently? It would seem
that if they're pressing forward on this, the Court's treated
like any other case, although it is a little bit
odd that they're bringing something that is not normally charged.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well, look, it's a standalone case because that's what the
way the prosecutors decided it should be. What's interesting is
it's being announced now. This is not the conclusion of
the Special Council's investigation into Hunter Biden. You know, there
are those tax charges that he was going to plead
guilty to. Those have not yet been resolved, so there's
more to come. Republicans in Congress say this is a
(02:49):
small first step and a positive one, they say, but
they say that there ought to be more, and they say,
if there isn't more, and then it'll be a sign
that the Justice Department is covering for Hunter Biden. There
have been a lot of insinuation, a lot of innuendo,
a lot of suggestions speculation that Republicans have offered no
hard and fast evidence to convince the public that Joe
(03:11):
Biden had anything to do with Hunter Biden and riching
himself by peddling the family name. But we'll see what
happens next. There's one thing that we're all sort of
watching for, and that is the possibility that the Special
Counsel's Office might bring charges related to the Foreign Agents
Registration Actor FARA. When the plea agreement became undone before
(03:34):
everyone's eyes and the ears in open court in Wilmington,
Delaware at the middle of the summer, the judge who's
presiding over this bewildered by the document that was placed
before her contending language she'd never before seen. Picking apart
the fact that the two sides clearly had a difference
of opinion as to the scope and extent of immunity
(03:54):
that Hunter Biden thought he was going to get from prosecutors,
she asked the prosecutors in that hearing whether they might
pursue charges of violating the FARA Act, the Foreign Agents
Registration Act, taking money for foreign entities to do their
bidding here in Washington without registering with the Justice Department
as a foreign agent as you're supposed to do. And
when the prosecutor said, well, maybe that really put Hunter
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Biden and his defense attorneys on their heels. So is
there going to be a FARA charge?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's interesting, Stephen. You in to make great point, Stephen Portanoy,
our ABC News national correspondent, about the timing on this.
Why not hold this charge until the Special Council might
be ready to drop more charges.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, the answer to that one is simple, and that
is the fact that because this process of dealing with
this particular account was already initiated. There is what's known
as the Speedy Trial Act, which governs the timing of
these proceedings. And in a filing a couple of weeks
ago in federal court, the prosecutor said, we understand our
obligations to act under the Speedy Trial Act. We understand
(04:57):
our deadline is the end of September.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
On this gun chart.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We will beat that deadline. And they beat it today
announcing the three count indictments.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
All right, that makes perfect sense. Now what are we
looking at it as a timeline then moving forward? You know,
we've obviously the closest thing we have to compare this
too politically is the charges against former President Trump and
a number of his supporters and advisors. That has It's
(05:26):
all over the board. The scheduling is could be October,
could be April twenty twenty six. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, no, Unfortunately, I don't have the answer you're looking for.
And I, frankly the first thing would be the initial appearance.
It is interesting that this Hunter Biden is a Secret
Service protectee, so I guess the Secret Service has some
experience now dealing with booking. So that'll be the first
thing to happen in Wilmington where Hunter Biden will have
to appear on these charges. He's now been indicted by
(05:54):
grand jury. But how soon this will come to trial
and when what else is to come Our answers we
don't have now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I should also point out that this is a federal charge, right,
so this would fall and I'd love just being a
conspiracy theorist here. There's no reason to believe this would happen,
but it does fall under the purview of potential pardon,
would it not.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, Look, the White House has been asked about this.
They you know they First of all, they have tried
not to comment about today's indictment. The President ignored shouted
questions about it. But the idea that Hunter Biden would
be pardoned by his father is something that they really
don't want to even contemplate and have not wanted to address.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
No, of course they don't want to. But I just
love the I love the drama playing out in front
of US. Stephen Portenoire, ABC News National correspondent Washington for
their update on the Hunter Biden indictment the firearms charges.
Very informative, Stephen, thank you for your work on this.
I appreciate you. All right. I am fascinated by all
(06:56):
of it. I'm fascinated by the politics behind all of it.
I'm fascinated that you've got the president's son that's just
been charged because, uh, basically there was the political demand
for it from the group that says that the DOJ
has been weaponized. I don't think that DJ has done
anything wrong in this case. I think the DJ is great. Look,
(07:17):
you want to charge him, charge him, you want to
charge him with the with the other misdemeanor tax evasion,
charge him, you want to charge him with uh, with
the not registering at Farah. I think that's probably a
slam dunk. Yeah, I think all of that is probably
in the works. But it does sort of cut into
the whole weaponization thing that we've got members of the
Freedom Caucus insisting on as part of the verbiage and
(07:38):
the upcoming the upcoming budget bill. They say, well, we
have to address the weaponization of the DOJ. While the
president's son is under indictment. It is a two way street,
and I just I'm here to watch Rome burn. I guess,
bring me my fiddle. All right, we'll talk about the
(08:00):
sisters of perpetual indulgence, perpetually indulging themselves, because why wouldn't they?
That's next. I'm Chris merrill Ian for John Kin Today.
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Speaker 1 (08:19):
We got big strike on the horizon. Man. This has
been a weird year for strikes. I know, Year of
the strike, right, and I get that it's but it's
everything seems to be coming to a head here in September.
I don't know, Maybe we should do a before and
a half or what do you think? Who will end
their strike first? Now? The UAW may go on strike
(08:41):
starting I think tonight, right midnight, midnight tonight is what
it is, thank you? So who ends to the strike first?
UA w WGA, sag AFTRA or I think Tyser may
go on strike here shortly too, right? They authorized a strike? Yeah, yeah,
so who ends up? Who goes? Who finishes their strikings.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
First, I would say the car strike, the autoworkers strike.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I agree. I agree. Well, we'll dive into what their
contentions are. One of the things that they're asking for
is a bit ridiculous, but I think it's more of
a point than anything else, So it's certainly one of
those things that they can negotiate out on. So you're
familiar with the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, right, that's the
group that was. They were invited to the Dodgers Pride Night,
(09:33):
and then they were uninvited because America is losing their
minds about drag shows all of a sudden, and then
they got reinvited. Yes, yeah, okay, So now one of
the members of the Eureka chapter just got in trouble
in lolieda coastal community fifteen miles south of Eureka, Clinton Monroe.
(09:57):
Ellis Gilmour allegedly made no attempts. This from the New
York Post is, which has basically become like the Washington Examiner.
North allegedly made no attempt to hide the perverted act
they're calling it on August twelfth, when he stopped off
in a public park and decided he was going to
perpetually indulge himself, or, as Shannon Ferrin called it, self care.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh no, no, no, I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You can't do self care? No, okay, Well here's there
are some details to this that are a bit succulent.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
There's that word again.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There it is okay. According to numerous witnesses, this dude
had been at the location for about an hour, sitting
in his truck with the door open, taking care of
business in an hour, thank you, that's what caught my eye.
To an hour. Wow. At some point we call it
(10:55):
doctor because things are going on too law.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I was going to say, there's an issue there. You
think you got I was thinking the same, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Nowhere in the report is that is there any reference
to lotions or any other lubricants of the sort. I
am completely blown away by this. They do claim, according
to some witnesses, that basically he pulled over in this park,
he opened up one door and dropped a leg out
the side, and I guess I don't know that he
(11:25):
was making eye contact, but he certainly wanted people to
see him, according to witnesses. One witness says that parked
two spots away from This person had the left leg
out the open door of the truck, right leg up
on the dashboard with no pants on, giving him a
full view of our perpetual indulgent sister taking care of them.
(11:53):
But then another question comes to mind. Not only is
this guy going to town for an hour, but witness
is are what making sure he doesn't stop? To listen
this guy? Do you guys see what this guy's doing.
He's been doing it for like forty five minutes. We've
been watching the whole time. I would be watching me,
thank you. At some point, don't you go this is vile.
I'm gonna call the police and leave. Yes, But evidently
(12:17):
they didn't. They didn't leave, They just told to. So
I think we've got a lot of problems all the
way around on this now. Of course, what's what's going
on is that this has been picked up, like I said,
by the New York Post. So what they're doing now
is they're basically saying, look, this guy is a pervert.
We knew everybody in that group was a pervert. They're
(12:37):
all perverts, and this is what's happening to America today.
Are you sure you want to have that drag time
Story Hour at the library, because you know what they're doing.
As soon as they're done with that drag time Story Hour,
they're going right out to their cars and they're they're
opening the doors for an hour. And you also have
(12:58):
to wonder, is it the first time? Oh, well, you
never know, Well, this isn't the first time.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
It could be that's why it's taken so long. Oh,
but then nervous Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, I kind of forgetting.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I hope I don't get in trouble. But this is exciting,
But I hope I don't get in trouble. Or maybe
it's not the first time, so it wasn't as exciting,
and it took an hour. And again he.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Has an issue. Maybe he has some kind of a
health issue there, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, you know what does he need to be milked
every so often to avoid something?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
That perhaps I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
I mean, don't you think that there's an issue if
it takes an hour?
Speaker 6 (13:48):
I mean, I'm not a guy, so I'm not really
the one to ask.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Okay, just from a human, from a human standpoint, how
do you keep your you're focus that well, you can't, right,
I mean even if even if a long time for
you is five minutes, maybe for some people it's not. Uh.
After about twenty minutes, doesn't your mind start to wander,
(14:15):
especially if you're at a park and you go, oh,
they have puppies over there, did or maybe cramps got
to be something that goes on.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
He's superhuman.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Clearly you really the sister of perpetual indulgence. Truly is metaphysical.
I love you guys for it. All right, we uh,
we do want to get into the strike. Which strike, Well,
it's the latest strike. Of course we'll talk the right things.
(14:47):
They're popping off all over the place.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Summer strikes.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Man, what happens with the ua W strike and what
does it mean to your next vehicle? It could have
an impact. That is next. I'm Chris Merrill k if
I AM six forty. We're live everywhere on your iHeartRadio app.
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AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Year of the strike. Right, we've got the Writers Guild
SAGA for those are the big ones that catch a
lot of headlines. We've got Kaiser Permanente is authorizing a strike. Oh,
speaking of SAG, I just got notice that SAG is
now asking to authorize for those in the video game sector.
Is that all voiceover stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Is it the Okay? So there's another there's another avenue
that may be striking. And we've got the hospital hotel workers.
That's another one that was that's got strikes going on,
and now it could be the UAW. Mike Dubuski is
ABC News Technology reporter. He's in Detroit, and what's the
(15:55):
vibe there in Detroit? Mike, it seems like this is
a big deal for that city. Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Absolutely, Yeah. So I'm actually sitting here at the Detroit
Auto Show. You might actually hear some cars screeching around
in the background here. That's the electric vehicle test track
that they have set up. Yeah, I know, the theater
of the mind here. We got to do what we
can in radio. But yes, the vibe, the mood of
the Detroit Auto Show, this sort of pre eminent North
American Auto Show, is all about the strike and the
(16:24):
concern by organizers here and by sort of the city
of Detroit, is that a potential UAW strike, a historic
one is that would overshadow this auto show that has
struggled in recent years, especially since the pandemic, so the
whole city's talking about it. I went to a whole
bunch of automotive press conferences yesterday and just overhearing people talk,
(16:45):
it is all all about this UAW strike that's kind
of looming.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So if the UAW does go on strike, it doesn't
mean everybody shuts down, right, just certain plants will go
on strike, and we don't even know which ones those
are yet.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah, that's right. So what Sean Sayin is proposing here
is certain workers will walk off the job and others
will remain working under the existing contract, which by that
point you'll have expired. And the goal there is basically
two fold. One, Sean Fain, who's the president of the UAW,
says that allows them to sort of laser target to
(17:18):
really hit the Big three where it hurts. The other
part of this is purely logistical. The UAW has a
strike fund, basically a big bucket of money, and by
only allowing some people to walk off the job, that
prolongs the life of that strike fund. That allows them
to potentially strike for longer, if that's indeed what they
want to do. So that is kind of their logic here.
(17:41):
It does not look like everybody's going to walk off
the job if the deal is not reached by midnight,
by the stroke of midnight's night, eleven fifty nine Eastern.
But that is kind of the lay of the land
here as a stand.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Mike Debuski is a ABC News technology reporter. He's in Detroit,
as you mentioned, at the auto show in his scene center.
We love to call that in radio, Mike, what where
are the sticking points? What's going on here? I know
that the auto workers are asking for an astronomical raise,
but that seems to be more of a point that
they're trying to make rather than an actual demand.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah, that's absolutely right. So the latest information we have
is that the UAW is asking for a thirty six
percent wage increase. That's down slightly from the forty percent
figure that they initially were targeting. There, the reinstatement of
pensions for all members, revised retirement benefits, a thirty two
hour work week, a four day work week. Yes, those
(18:36):
sound like big demands and they are again. UAW President
Sean Fain does not shy away from that. He calls
their demands audacious and ambitious. But their whole argument here
the UAW is that in the year since the Great Recession,
the big three American automakers, meaning General Motors, Ford, and Stilantis,
have seen skyrocketing profits in Shawn Fame for It's they're
(18:59):
rolling in the money and the blue collar American workers,
the union members, have not seen their wages go up
in correspondence with that profitability from the top. That's their argument. Now,
it's worth mentioning that the automakers say that they need
this extra money to speed the transition to electric vehicles.
(19:20):
The cars that are behind me right now are electric vehicles.
There's this big electric vehicle test tracks that they've set
up here, and those cars are really complex to build.
A lot of automakers are pouring tens of billions of
dollars into making this transition, and the automakers say they're
going to need that money if this is going to
happen by twenty thirty five, which is what various world
(19:42):
governments have legislated, is going to need to be the
year that we make the jump over to electric vehicles.
So there many of the considerations that they're having right now.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
There has to be some concern mic over from the
unions that there may be plants that close, not assembly
plants necessarily plants that make the parts for internal combustion
engines that are going to be shuttered simply because of
the transition to electric Is that part of the contention here.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, So it's estimated that between twenty and thirty percent
less labor is required to build an electric car. They are,
from a purely mechanical point of view, less complex than
a gas powered car. That's not to say that they're
not very sophisticated in high tech, but when it comes
to the moving parts, the component tree of electric vehicles,
(20:32):
there's just less of it. And obviously that is a
concern for a union that is built on having people
put parts for cars together. So the very nature of
electric vehicles the uawc's as a threat to their very
existence and to the continued profitability of their members, And
that's kind of hanging over all this discussion as well.
(20:54):
Another part of this too, that I know is also
worth considering is that the automakers are making the argument
that they have to remain competitive against car makers that
don't use union labor force. It's the car that just
drove by me right now, is a Tesla. Tesla does
not employ union workers, and the Big three say that
if they are to a seede to the uaw's demands,
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they're not going to be competitive. They're just not going
to be profitable when that's the competition that's out there.
So you know, again a lot of different considerations to
weigh as these hours stick down.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
We saw another threatened strike just last month, and that
had to do with the teamsters at UPS, but that
was sort of an eleventh hour save. If you were
an odds maker, what would you say, as far as
odds go, are we going to see an eleventh hour
save on this one?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, I'll say this. At ten PM tonight, Sean sayin
UAW president is going to hop on another live stream
and announce the first round of local unions that are
going to walk off the job. Right again, not everybody's
going to walk off at once. It doesn't seem like
he's going to announce specifically who is in structed to
walk off the job. That's two hours before the contract expires.
(22:04):
That is the potential to tighten the screws on the
automakers as they enter that the negotiations and sort of
final minutes. Whether that will make any difference, I think
remains to be seen. A lot of it is up
in the air, and a lot of this is happening
behind closed doors. It's worth mentioning too, a lot of
this negotiation happened at the headquarters of all of these
automakers here in Detroit, but in recent days we learned
(22:27):
that the negotiations are actually happening at UAW headquarters, so
Sean Fain doesn't have to be in three places at once.
So a lot of it's still out in the area.
It's going to be really fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, it is fascinating, and I'm just wondering if this
means are we going to see an evolution toward electric
faster or does it slow down the evolution toward electric vehicles.
And obviously we've got deadlines set here in California as well.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely again. You know, the question of electric
vehicles in some ways is inevitable. Right, Both California and
the European Union of legislated that twenty thirty five year
be the last year you sell new gas powered cars,
which means that they're going to have to be powered
by something else. You know, there are hydrogen powered cars
out there, there are cars powered by other alternative methods,
(23:13):
but electric power is the predominant one, and that's kind
of just how it needs to be. So there's a
part of this where the carmaker's hands are being forced
to comply with that based on the development cycles and
how long it takes to build a new car, especially
a car that uses a form of propulsion that we're
not used to. But again, yeah, it's a really fascinating
time to be following the car market because just so
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much is happening right now.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Mike Debuski is our ABC News Tech reporter. He's in
Detroit at the Auto Show. Mike, thank you so much
for your time today. A pleasure catching up with you.
Speaking of catching up, uh, you bet. Speaking of catching up,
they've been taking almost two weeks. It took them to
try to catch up to this guy who just shimming
his way over some razor wire that takes gonads. Next,
(24:00):
I'm Chris Merrill kf I AM six forty. We're live
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Speaker 4 (24:05):
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Speaker 1 (24:13):
In for John and Ken today, pledsure pleasure up and
down being with you. I was just talking about all
the different strikes that are going on and what a
mess that's kind of playing out to be every time
and again, it's nice to have a distraction. And one
thing that captivates us better than just about anything else,
aside from maybe missing white women, is when you have
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an escape convict on the run. Boy, we are just wrapped,
aren't we?
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Just focus? Oh did they get him? What's the latest?
What's happening now? And there was something going on in
Pennsylvania that seemed strange. Not only did the guy escape,
the story took a lot of those weird twists and turns. Now, Debra,
maybe you remember some other escape stories that were fun
to follow, like when you got the escapees are running
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away because a guard fell in love with them.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that one.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, weren't there two of those? There was? Wasn't there?
There was the one in upstate New York where the
guard fell in love and two guys got out. And
then wasn't there one out of Alabama or Arkansas, one
of the southern A states, And I thought that was
a deal where the guard fell in love too. I
don't remember the exact detals. Anyway, This one in Pennsylvania
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was curious because the guy he kind of shimmied up
this wall and then he was able to get through
razor wire, two sets of razor wire on fences. And
I found this to be astonishing. I was talking with
Andrew Caravella, who's one of our news anchors. And Andrews said, well,
maybe it's because he's a little fella, and I said, well,
(25:50):
what do you mean by that? And he really he
pointed out that little fellas are very acrobatic. That's it,
you know, that makes good sense. You ever see Oceans eleven? Right, yeah,
they got the old fella is the acrobatic guy.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
This guy's what he's five feet right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
He's very short, he's very slight. And so I think
Andrew was basically proposing that the guy was able to
just Simon Biles his way up and around the fencing.
That's pretty great.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I always thought those gymnasts would be really good at,
you know, covert operations, because they can just you ever
see those flips where they end up like fifteen feet
up in the air.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, but they practice a lot.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah. Well if you're yeah, well that's special ops. You know,
you gotta practice right, So they found this dude. They
caught him yesterday, and the cops in the Keystone State,
which were acting like Keystone cops, were telling to everybody
all along, don't worry. He's gonna get tired and when
he gets tired, then he'll make a mistake. But we
won't get tired. And then it started raining and they said, well,
(26:50):
there's a lot of rain, so we're gonna stop searching
for tonight. That sort of thing happened constantly. It was
it was wonderful. He just kept saying, Ah, he'll get
tired and come back to us. He doesn't worked that way. Well,
finally they get a break and this was ABC News
was telling us exactly how they got the guy and
then what he said after they captured him.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
This morning. Convicted killer danilokval Kante back behind bars now
in a maximum security facility, two weeks after breaking out
of prison in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I always love the very serious newscasters. I'm going to
tell you the story in a very driving manner.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
You want me to do that?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Will you do that?
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
From the KFI news room, here's the information you have
to have. Love it.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Our nightmare is finally over and the good guys won.
The man hunt coming to an intense conclusion early Wednesday morning.
Cavalcante seen in that stolen Eagle sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Just ah, he's an Eagles fan, or at least he
was when he was stealing the shirt. I mean, listen,
if I escaped and I was on the run, and
I ran across like an Ohio State Buckeye sweatshirt, I
would just not steal it. I go, I won't even
be caught wearing that. Well, while I'm trying to survive,
You're not gonna catch me in a Buckeye sweatsheet. It
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won't happen. So for the guy who is at least
okay with the Eagles.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Described by authorities as wet and weathered, the thirty four
year old detailing his survival in a four hour interview
with authorities.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
A wet and weathered thirty four year old, I think
I've met a few of those. After nine pm at
a hotel.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Barn, he did sail on three occasions. Law enforcement officers
did almost step on him. He also told us.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
What a minute, what officers did?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What?
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Now almost step on him?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, all right, so they just they almost.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Walked on him because he's so little and he was
hiding in thick brush.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
They almost almost stepped on him.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, this is like the ultimate game of hide and seek.
How nervous do you think?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
He was?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Oh my god, can you imagine, Oh my goodness, it's.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like they get me.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
They're gona get me, They're gonna get me. But then
they almost stepped on him and walked away, and he thought, wow,
I can't do that either, because I get gassy.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
He also told us that he survived by eating watermelon
the first couple of days. He stated he intended to
carjack somebody in the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh wow, I mean that's a good thing. They got
to know somebody was about to get held a gunpoint right.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
And that he was going to head north to Canada
or try to get out of the United States.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And okay, he was gonna head north to Canada. Dude,
don't go to Canada. Everybody knows you go to Mexico.
Everybody knows. That. Unbelievable. All right, back to the officer
who's giving us the update.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Here, or try to get out of the United States
and head back to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Hold on now, hey, hang on there he was going
to try to do what now.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Or try to get out of the United States and
head back to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
All right, this is once again, this is where our
education system is fail less. And this is why I
never really trusted the sheriff's there in that county in Philadelphia,
in Pennsylvania, because you know, they were sure that he
was going to get tired. They were sure that they
had him boxed into a certain search area. Come to
find out, the guy had stolen a dairy truck and
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driven thirty miles away. And now he says that he's
going to get out of the United States and go
to Puerto Rico. We're just we're not bright ante, And
once again I've got to hear this again.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
Try to get out of the United States and head
back to Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I think they met Portugal, that's where he was. Excuse me,
not Portugal, was it Brazil where he was originally Brazil.
But instead he says he's going to get out of
the United States and go to back to Puerto Rico,
which is part of the United States.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Well, you know they're exhausted from trying to catch this guy.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
You know, their brains are just not functioning at a
hundred percent, right.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, somehow the escapee was still functioning. Maybe they need
more watermelon in their diets and then they'll be able
to keep up with the guy. Good night, all right,
we'll get the latest on what's happening with COVID in
La County. That is next on Chris Maryland And for
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