September 18, 2023 • 32 mins
John and Ken are back! Steve Gregory comes on the show to talk about a person of interest being arrested in connection to the shooting of an LA County Sheriff’s Deputy. SB43 is on the way to Newsom’s desk. Gas prices are skyrocketing once again in LA. A man tried to accost Robert Kennedy Jr. at an event.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
All right, well, we're all here, but of course we're
going to start with the big story that has also
become national news, the shooting death of an LA County
shriff's deputy Saturday night in Palmdale. Let's bring on Steve
Gregory because today they have arrested a suspect. That's the
big updates.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Do we know who the suspect is, Steve, we.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Do, Yeah, Yeah. His name is Kevin Salazar. He's a
twenty nine year old man who lives in Palmdale. And
here is the iringy in this fellas, while they were
having a vigil for Ryan Clinkenbrumer last night in the
town of Palmdale. That's the tip that they got at
the same time that led SWAT teams over to the
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home of Salazar. Now, they surveiled for a little bit
and then they eventually took action and overnight hours is
when they went in and asked the family to get out. Well,
Salazar refused to come out of the house, so he
barricaded himself inside the home for a few hours, and
roughly five am this morning is when they logged in
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some teargas and got him to come out, and he
came out, surrendered and with his hands up and was
taken into custody and he's being questioned now. No parent
motive has been given, and there is I can tell
you from sources I've been talking with, there's no immediate
tie to any gangs, whether he's got a direct or
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indirect involvement, gang affiliation, or gang membership. Seems as that's
not the case right now.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Any word on a criminal record.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, when Sheriff Fluna was asked at the Fresh conference
this morning at ten thirty about that, he said, we're
still reviewing that, so there.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Must be one, otherwise there'd be nothing to review.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, here's the thing, So that that's information you can
pull up in a patrol car. You you get a
guy's background pretty quickly on a on you know, a
background check. And he said that that's they want to
They're going to be incredibly tight lipped on this case,
much like they did in the case of the two
deputies who got shot point blank down in the train
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station and content, if you might recall we could we
can get very much information out of officials then as well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, I want to know if it's a Gascone production that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Will come out eventually. But the other thing that they're
trying to do is prevent any problems of being able
to prosecute the guy. But if I don't know if
you heard the press conference, but Luna did make a
point to say that he personally spoke with Gascon, and
Gascon said he would uh use the full force of
his office to go after this guy. So take that
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for what it's worth, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well I really want to know the context
of the circumstances of this Steve is he just drove
up alongside the deputy's patrol car and just shot.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Him, Yeah, from behind. Happening Saturday night around six o'clock
at the intersection of Sierra Highway and Avenue Q. And
that's right in front of the Palmdale Shriff station. That's
a pretty ballsy effort, right in the middle of It
wasn't broad dayla per se. It was dusk, but it
was still bright enough outside where you could see clearly
what was going on. And it was some grainy surveillance
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video that gave him the imagery of that gray Toyota Corolla.
And it was after the press conference yesterday at four
o'clock in Palmdale with the sheriff that led the SWAT
team to that house. Apparently after they showed the photos
of that car, tips started to pour in. I mean,
it was just they said, it was unbelievable how quickly
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people called in. And one of the giveaways in that
photo too were those very unique hubcaps. It was a
very unique design of hubcap that was on that car.
And they immediately got some tips that came in and
they were able to pretty much vet and find this
guy pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Do we know who he's living with in that in
that home?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All the family members? All they said, family members, We
don't know if we have a wife or a mother.
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Twelve noon, he also going to Times has published a
story John, don't know if you have it in front
of you, by three writers who interviewed the mother, And
we're going to get into that in a moment, but
we want to finish the details off with Steve first,
but it does focus a lot on mental illness allegedly
of this suspect. I had seen that in a story
that too is paranoid schizophrenic. The mother says, oh, so
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diagnosed five years ago hearing voices in his head because
I was going to ask Steve. They don't believe that
he targeted this deputy, that he knew that, or he
just decided the voices and had told him to kill
a cop. We don't know that yet.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, no, and that they said. That's why they say
there was no parent motive. No, you know, clear immediate
motive and no ties to gang. So then you have
to start kind of taking it from there and finding
out about his home life. And here's the thing, so
if he is in fact a paranoid schizophrenic, they also
found a cache of weapons. They said they found numerous
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weapons in his possession inside that home. So it also
begs the question, so if mom was really worried about
his mental illness, did mom know the guns were in
the house.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I read the article and I said the same thing
to myself. You're letting your son who you admit, because
if you read the story, she's like, oh, they're here
to arrest them for a murder. But what about the
fact that he's been mentally ill these years and no
one's taken care of him. I'm like, yeah, you let
him have a gun. I mean, honestly meant twenty nine
twenty nine guns.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But because often in these families, the parents enable the
crazy person.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They do.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
They don't have the strength to look at the kid critically,
he's still there, but their little baby.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If you think about it, and you know, you look
at the Sandy Hook shooting, that was the situation where
you know, the red flags were up the guy and
the guy had a gun and he was, you know,
diagnosed mentally ill, then that would also answer the question
that I mean, that question came up in the press
conference today. Uh, the sheriff was asked about, you know,
were you aware of this, this guy's mental illness, and
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the Sheriff's like, you know, to the Sheriff's credit, he's like,
I have no idea what one has to do with
the other. Basically, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
An excuse, it's not a defense. It's he should have
been locked up somewhere already if he's that mentally ill
and now he's got to be locked up forever. He
got to get the death penalty. I don't care what
he's got.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Well, it was a pretty brazen act to not only
just target law enforcement in general, but to do it
in broad daylight like that. That takes a lot of balls.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You don't get a pass to kill cops because you're
hearing voices.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and I think it's interesting that that that narrative
is already underway. You know, it's just kind of interesting
to me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
All Right, Steve, thank you very much for that report.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You got a guy stick care.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's Steve Gregor recovering the shooting of the La County
Sheriff's deputy in Palmdale Saturday night. The suspect is Kevin
Katano Salazar, aged twenty nine, and in this interview that
the Times reporters did in Spanish with his mother, she said,
my son is mentally illly if he did something, he
wasn't into his full mental capacity. They're not only saying
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that he's the one that shop the deputy, but nobody's
saying he has a record for needing mental help. That's
what I meant, Like, she's pleading that nobody's helped him,
and now look what's happened. He hears voices in his head.
Sometimes comes home telling his parents and siblings cars or
people were following.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Him on the streets. Good.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
At times, he'd grow so upset he would cover his
ears with his hands, yell, or stick his head in
a trash can to drown out the voices.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Good, excellent, and him let him go driving a car
round town. Right, and let him have twenty nine weapons.
They want to throw mom and everyone else in that
family into prison with him. They're just as dangerous. They
created the situation.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Ask him what is he hearing? He would just get hysterical.
He'd grow upset. We try to calm him down. Often
after such episodes, her son would start to act like
a child of five years old and asked to be hugged.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's got a severely damaged brain. You can't calm him down.
You can't get him to a better place. It's impossible.
It's brain damage. The brain doesn't work. It's never going
to be fixed. You put those people in a mental institution,
you lock them up.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He said that he I hospitalized in Silmar in the
past year. Seem to be doing better, but stop taking
his medication about ten months ago, but he appeared to
be calm so that he didn't press the issue.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you don't force the medication down their throats, it's pointless.
Without the medication, their brain reverts back to its natural state.
The medication hides the symptoms until you stop taking the medication,
and then the brain goes back to regular programming, which
is insanity and voices and violence. I can't believe at
this late date in twenty twenty three, that nobody has
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a basic understanding of mental illness and how it works.
And you can't teach them, you can't fix them, you
can't rehabilitate them. I'm just we're like such a stupid,
stupid society when it comes to mental illness. When the
brain is damaged, it's damaged. It's like trying to run
a car on four blown tires. You can't. The car
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doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised he as a
criminal record, but obviously he has the psychological record if
he was actually diagnosed, and we're probably gonna find out
that the voices in his head drove and to kill
somebody and with a police car really got his attention.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But you don't want the dumbass psychiatric industry. All they
do is give you medication that everyone knows most of
the schizophrenics don't even take because one of the aspects
of being a schizophrenic is you don't know you're crazy.
You don't think you're crazy, you don't have that self awareness,
so you don't you don't want to take the medication.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, along these lines, when we come back, I can't
every time I see these kinds of numbers, I just
I can't believe it. Over one thousand bills are headed
to Gavin Newsom a thousand, most of them horrible and useless,
and we'll get to that. The one we're going to
talk about when we come back is sort of related
to what we're talking about now. They have passed a
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bill that supposedly is going to give them more power
to amend the California mental illness laws and whether or
not we can take conservatorship of people.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
The woman behind this piece of legislation, I really kind
of doubt it. Although there are, of course people in
the healthcare field who fear that this will take away
civil liberties.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We'll talk about when we come back here, know, somebody
shure taken away the civil liberties of this cop killer.
We got to start taking away civil liberties. That's got
to be the next frontier. Johnny Ken I AM six
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Speaker 3 (11:11):
So the word from family members of the guy who's
been arrested for shooting the Ellie County Sheriff's deputy to
death on Saturday night in Palmdale is that he's a
paranoid schizophrenic, which brings us to this story because it's
dealing with the horrible legislature. They finished their session on Friday,
which means they pushed through apparently a thousand bills have
been sent together, a thousand bills. Anyway, we're going to
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talk about one right now, Senate Bill forty three, because
this has come up on the show many times over
the years in the past. Nineteen sixty seven, they changed
the behavioral health laws known as LPs. The Act went
into effect in nineteen seventy two, and this was because
we well they thought we were over institutionalizing people, putting
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people in horrible mental health facilities. They were treated like crap.
Of them died of neglect, and it was all about
just taking money and terrible housing. So you know, they
tried to make it I guess a little more difficult
to get what they call conservativeship nearly impossible. Yeah, well,
so what they've tried to do with this bill, and
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it's from a woman that is particularly out there progressive,
Susan Telmante's eggman from Stockton, a Democrat state senator. But
it did pass, and it's on its way to Newsome.
And it's supposed to change the definition of somebody who
is considered gravely disabled, some call it they're trying to
modernize the definition.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, they're adding severe substance use disorder. Yes, that's just
dead substance use, all right, So the math addicts and
the heroin fentinel attics supposedly will be scooped up off
the streets, right, that's what you'd think.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
This Act is only as good as it's implemented. Right, Well,
just because it's there. It doesn't mean anybody will do it.
It's up to the counties to carry this out. And
immediately responses they don't have enough mental health facilities to
take care of all these people you think you're taking
in for conservativeship. This is why there's a six billion
dollar bond on next year's ballot. Did you know that
to us?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, well, this is when they screwed up back in
nineteen seventy two. Is when the new law was implemented.
Actually he was passed in sixty seven, and yes, Ronald
Reagan signed it, and it was bipartisan, huge support both parties.
Everybody was into this. But there was a part two
to the bill that was never followed through. There were
supposed to be tons of tax money used so that
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local and regional mental health and drug addiction facilities would
be built and staffed and all these damaged brains would
be treated properly. So they let everybody out of the
mental hospitals. But they didn't. They built hardly any mental
health and drug treatment centers, so they all ended up
on the street.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
They were supposed to come involuntarily for this mental health
and drug treatment. But I but how come if that
law took effect in nineteen seventy two. How come it
took until this past decade for this to get so atrocious?
Is it because we passed to Prop forty seven and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yes, when we dumped the prisoners in twenty eleven, when
we passed forty seven, when we passed fifty seven, when
we got rid of you know, bail, when we stopped
putting people in jail for misdemeanors. Oh, and the tremendous
drug trade over the Mexican border, right the border went
to hell. And these Mexican lab technicians are making incredible myth.
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And the myth is made of synthetic chemicals, and the
chemicals and the combinations that they use now didn't exist
back then. They didn't have these kind of drug problems.
Back then, people were mostly getting stoned and using coke.
This didn't exist in this form. It's extremely deadly. The
fentonolse extremely deadly. That was another thing that didn't exist
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in this form. And it's because they have perfected and
they constantly improve on the synthetic drugs in these labs.
The ingredients come from China to Mexico. Mexico manufactures it
and sends it here over the border, and the drug
cartels make billions that entire infrastructure didn't exist fifty years.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Ago like it does today, not even ten years ago. No,
not even ten years from quite a business, and fentanyl
is adding to the problem. So it says here under
the bill, if evidence is found that a mental health
disorder of substance use disorder is placing or will place
a person's physical or mental health at substantial risk of
serious harm, crisis teams and mental health providers can initiate
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an involuntary hold that can lead to conservativeship. Well, then
my question is who are the crisis teams and mental
health providers we're talking about? All these are the little
ambassadors that already walk around, the outreach workers from the
nonprofits who really don't.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Look like they want to take anybody in under conservativeship.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's not need somebody to know, I mean the outreach
teams from these nonprofits.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I'm not gonna use the word ambassador. It's more about security.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But I'm talking about the outreach workers from these nonprofits
that are out there that we've seen put ultimately homeless camps.
You're gonna you're gonna need police with guns, because allow
that to happen, the counties aren't allowed police with guns, well,
then they're not going to be put away. And this
will fail. That's why I'm saying it may fail. It's
only as good as it's implemented. That's my problem with
this bill. This is something for everybody to run on
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next year. That's all because they know when they go
home to their districts and the primaries are going to
be in March, right, The primaries are pretty close. They're
in March, you know for the legislature and then the
general election in November. Everybody's going to be running in
their districts, and people who represent the Los Angeles, San Diego,
San Francisco and all the rest, everyone's going to be
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screaming at them. Everyone's going to be screaming at him
over the crime and the homeliness and the drug addicts
and the mental patients. So they're all going to have
a standard speech on an index and they're gonna explain
this new UH Conservation Act that's and and everyone's gonna nod,
going on, well, that sounds good, you know, I'm glad
we're finally getting smart about this.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I gotna see yeah, well, let's give it a chance,
and then then that's gonna be the next like, let's
give it a chance. Right now, you're gonna see two years,
there's gonna be a story Howe Newsom's uh, Newsom's conservancy
plan didn't really work, didn't change it. I have to
give it a chance. The funding is just starting to trinkle.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's usually what they say, right, the same thing with
the housing bills, right, that's what they said.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
If give it a.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Chance, we'll have all the homeless house within a few years.
Just let us spend billions more.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
If I thought we had intelligent people running this, then yeah,
maybe something good will happen. We don't have intelligent people,
and you know we don't. We don't have intelligent politicians
and representatives. All right, we got more coming up. Johnny
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Every hour.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
During the show, we'll be looking at more of the
crazy pieces of legislation that passed in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
We'll get back to that later.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Now we return to an oldie, but a goodie, the
price of gasoline jaw dropping, right, John would be be
I guess we could be reeling and roiling over what's
happened in just the last few days. Of five cent
jumped today, on top of a fourteen cent jump the
day before. The average price of gallon of a gas
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at a regular gas at Los Angeles County is making
its way towards the six dollars mark very rapidly.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I was in Florida last week. Oh that's right, Yes,
three dollars and forty cents.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Well, we're rising to the record we had October of
last year and it was six fifty six dollars and
fifty cents. Well, that's heading towards six gallons. And there
seems to be no break to this, although.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Gavin Newsom and the legislature and it's their taxes, that's
the difference between us and everybody else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So the only thing I learned last week when I
talked about this on the air is, and you're gonna laugh,
the winter blend is coming.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that usually drops the price by put.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Of the house.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, but there's a structural problem in California. The gas
the taxes are excessive, period, They're excessive and abusive, and
it hurts the middle class and the lower class, and
everybody keeps voting for the same jack holes who steal
their money every gallon, every tankful. It's fascinating to me.
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I really, everybody ought across the border and go drive
into other states for a day and if you could
afford to and see what it's like in most of
the rest of the United States, it's nothing close to
this well, and you're simply getting bent over and ripped
off it.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
That leads us to this story, because if you think
it's bad now, it's going to get.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
A lot worse.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Because the state of California has sued the five major
oil companies and their trade association for eight decades long
campaign of deception and creating statewide climate change related harms
in California. This is supposed to be like the tobacco lawsuits,
that these oil companies knew that their product leads to
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climate change and use lies and mythschuites to cover up
what they were doing to the environment. I know you're
probably laughing, but that's the lawsuit and the endgame for
this dopey Rob Bonta, the Attorney general, is to take
billions from them. Yeah, that's what he probably wants to
shave down from it. What do you think is going
to happen to your gas prices?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
In California, it's a mafia shakedown, that's all it is.
It's a preposterous lawsuit. Anybody can file lawsuit, and anybody
can hire some scumbag lawyers to create complicated legal arguments
that are nonsense. It's easy to do.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And Bonta can spend our tax money on an absurd
lawsuit because hey, he wants to be the next governor
after do some so he wants you want us to
lead to an absurd judge and an absurd jury and
of finding against the oil companies now and they'll just
turn around and either leave the state, which further diminishes
the supply, or raise your gas prices.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But they don't. That's what's going to happen with this.
They don't care all a guy like Bonta, like Newsome,
they're in a cult. And when when people are religious fundamentalists,
they do irrational, crazy things. How many times have you
seen it on television? A group of fundamentalist religious people
went on a rampage today. They did. They're they're crazy,
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they're insane. Wars are started over religion. That's what this is.
This is a religious war that they've declared on the
oil companies and really on us because we have, we have,
we have to pay for this nonsense, and they're trying
to force people into electric cars, and electric cars suck.
You know, the whole electric car system doesn't work, and
everybody knows it doesn't work, and not on a mass basis.
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You are right, it doesn't, It absolutely doesn't. But you
know what, the public's onto this because I heard a
business report this morning where a reporter said he talked
to a Ford dealer who has rows and rows and
rows of cars on his lot, and guy asked him,
It's like, what are all these cars on the lot? Oh?
Those are the electric cars that the government is forcing
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us to sell, but nobody wants them.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, save it for next hour, because you're all going
to get into the United Auto Workers strike because there
is of course a huge connection to the electric vehicle story.
So we'll get to that after two o'clock. Bonta wants
to create Oh my god, a nuisance abatement fund. So
he's going to take and I'm just using a figure
the billions he's going to get from these oil companies
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and use it to try to repair destruction caused by
the pollution.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I have no idea. What there's no destruction in the
state of California, just a way of bagging money into
the state. Coffers all this is. It's not pollution and
there's no destruction. There's been no damage to the state
of California because of their alleged climate change. What damage?
What pollution? Carbon dioxide is a natural element in the
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atmosphere and it's what keeps trees and plants alive. It's
what we exhale. So the idea that what we exhale
and what trees and plants inhale is pollution is completely
utterly absurd. This I don't know. I don't know what
else to say. I mean, you can have an argument
where there's some good points to the argument. You can
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see both sides all that there's nothing here. There's no
such thing as this being pollution. That's a made up term.
Because people weren't responding to their original arguments. They have
been selling this now for over twenty five years, and
people weren't buying for a long time, so they had
to change the language. Right, They didn't buy global warming
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because you know, people kept enjoying bad winters. I can't
call it global I gotta call the climate change. Oh
we've got we've got to call it pollution now and
and and you know most look, half the public has
an IQ of of average or below. Okay, half half
the public is below one hundred on the IQ scale.
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So what do you think you think you're gonna be
able to teach them the nuances of climate change, the
nuances of the law.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, well, that's why they're so easily uh stirred up
by warm summers. And that that's all the media has
to do is run stories about that it's killing us.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Do something. It's not killing us. It's not way more people.
The Times will say the August was the hottest on
the planet's history. See the other day. The Times doesn't
know that. That's impossible to know. That is complete nonsense,
recorded history. You know what, I read something last night.
I was reading National Geographic and this is gonna sound stupid,
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but just with me for ten seconds. They had a
story on cedar trees in North Carolina a cedar tree forest.
Don't ask me why I was reading this. And in
the middle of the story they talked about what they
did is they drilled into the core of a cedar
tree that was one thousand or two thousand years old,
and then they looked at the core sample that they
pulled out, and they found out that there was a really,
really long drought in the fifteen hundreds. And the scientists said, wow, Wow,
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there's nothing in the last century that comes anywhere near
what was going on in North Carolina in the fourteen hundreds.
They had extremely long drought went on for decades and decades.
And I looked at that. It's like, yeah, how many,
how many? How many cars were being driven around in
North Carolina in fourteen sixty, but they had a big
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drought and probably it was really hot. This is nonsense.
They made this scene.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You had a very long, boring vacation, you're reading about
cedar trees. No.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I had a flight on the East coast, and I
was very tired last night, but I was trying to
keep myself awake so I could adjust to the time difference.
So there was a national geographic lying around, and I
thought I forced myself to read it and pick it up,
and I got engrossed in the Cedar Tree article.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Okay, we got war coming up Johnny Kid CAF I
AM six forty live everywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
iHeartRadio app Deborah Mark. By the way, she's wearing intellectual
glasses now as she reads the news. She's trying to
change her image.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I am.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I want to be taken more seriously, Kain, So I
have to work so that you got an extra like yeah,
thirty IQ points right there with the glasses.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
All right, you're listening to John and Ken on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
All right, coming up after two o'clock. I thought I
was hearing things when the a lotted auto workers went
on strike. But it's real and we'll get to the
bottom of it. It has a lot to do with electric
vehicle production, so we'll get into that after the news
at two o'clock. The shocking story Friday that an armed
(27:04):
man showed up at a Robert F. Kennedy Junior rally
in Los Angeles dressed up like a US marshal, raised
a lot of alarms. Apparently RFK Junior was speaking at
a Hispanic heritage event at the Wilshire Ebell Theater, which
wasn't really that far from where his father was killed.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Robert F.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Kennedy not just a miler two. This to Miler two.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So what we've learned about Adrian Paul Espuro, the forty
four year old who has been detained, brings us back
to what we talked about earlier this hour, Conservatorship, Holy mackerel.
It turns out he's a huge anti vaxer. He's a
big Trump fan. His brother, I think described him best.
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The Daily Beast had a chance to talk to his brother, Raymond.
Raymond confirmed that his brother remains in custody, but called
bs on Kennedy's claim that the accused attempted to approach
him because Kennedy put out a press release thanking security
and such for detaining this man. It says here Raymond Espiro,
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the brother, said police also detained him at the theater
and searched his vehicle. He highlighted videos posted online showing
cops cuffing his brother on the sidewalk outside the Wilshire Ebel.
He said his brother is an unemployed EMT who lives
with their parents, does not have a car asked him
for a ride to what the accused told them was
a single day security job. The brother said, he told
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me he was in communication with someone about a gig,
a private contract gig, a one time deal, and he
had to go that day.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
To work it.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I don't know who he talks to or what I
just get whatever vague information he gives me. Oh, his
imaginary friends hired him. Yeah, so he went there dressed
up like he was an official Marshal security guy because
in his brain some voice must have been telling him
they need me.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Where did he get to go there? Where did he
get the uniform? You can probably buy that stuff home.
You could find a US Marshall's unifor well, it looks
close enough. Yeah, it says here he has.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
A shoulder hostel holsters, identical shirts that look like the sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But apparently he's probably he's posted a lot of stuff
to TikTok dealing with Every schizophrenic has their own social
media show. Isn't that great?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah? His brother says that he spends a lot of
time watching videos about aliens. Uh space, aliens ought to
be locked up. I just looked up you know how
many par schizophrenics there are in America almost three million.
Well think about that, almost three million people are wandering
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around living in an imaginary world where where they have
all kinds of fake people talking to them all day.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They can see them. They're being spoken to. The dogs
are talking to them.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He really has a strong slant against vaccines. But apparently
he expressed a belief that his own name has a
special numerological significance and he had a desire to communicate
with motorcycle gangs.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Why is he going after Robert Kennedy because they would share, right,
Maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Maybe in his head he was going there to help
and protect RFK Jr. But it says here according to
his brother, he is a Trump fan. I mean, you
could be both.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I guess can you imagine being Kennedy? Though I'm amazed
he's running for office. You mean, just the nervousness over.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Thegacy, the family history, because lunatics like this character.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't care what he says.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
What you're looking at as a guy in a fake
federal law enforcement uniform and a loaded gun and he's
going to attend a Robert Kennedy event two miles from
where the guy's dad got assassinated and.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
RFK and his message.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
RFK Junior added, I am the only presidential candidate in
history who does not have Secret Service protection.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
My request was denied. Well, that's true. He's still hoping
Biden will allow him secret Service protection. You have to
hit You're supposed to hit two criteria. First of all,
it is it is subjective up to a point. Right,
They're not going to give every candidate Secret Service protection.
But once you're within a certain timeframe of the primary season,
then you can get it if you have five percent
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of the vote in the polls. Now he does have
that on the Democratic side, it's just not primary season yet.
Maybe I don't know when that officially is the window
kick in some point, But I mean, Biden's administration could
choose to give him secret Service protection, but they said no,
draw your own dark conclusion.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Let the goat hang in the wind, all right, More
coming up. Johnny Ken, KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere,
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
All right, well, we're all here, but of course we're
going to start with the big story that has also
become national news, the shooting death of an LA County
shriff's deputy Saturday night in Palmdale. Let's bring on Steve
Gregory because today they have arrested a suspect. That's the
big updates.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Do we know who the suspect is, Steve, we.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Do, Yeah, Yeah. His name is Kevin Salazar. He's a
twenty nine year old man who lives in Palmdale. And
here is the iringy in this fellas, while they were
having a vigil for Ryan Clinkenbrumer last night in the
town of Palmdale. That's the tip that they got at
the same time that led SWAT teams over to the
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home of Salazar. Now, they surveiled for a little bit
and then they eventually took action and overnight hours is
when they went in and asked the family to get out. Well,
Salazar refused to come out of the house, so he
barricaded himself inside the home for a few hours, and
roughly five am this morning is when they logged in
(01:18):
some teargas and got him to come out, and he
came out, surrendered and with his hands up and was
taken into custody and he's being questioned now. No parent
motive has been given, and there is I can tell
you from sources I've been talking with, there's no immediate
tie to any gangs, whether he's got a direct or
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indirect involvement, gang affiliation, or gang membership. Seems as that's
not the case right now.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Any word on a criminal record.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, when Sheriff Fluna was asked at the Fresh conference
this morning at ten thirty about that, he said, we're
still reviewing that, so there.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Must be one, otherwise there'd be nothing to review.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, here's the thing, So that that's information you can
pull up in a patrol car. You you get a
guy's background pretty quickly on a on you know, a
background check. And he said that that's they want to
They're going to be incredibly tight lipped on this case,
much like they did in the case of the two
deputies who got shot point blank down in the train
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station and content, if you might recall we could we
can get very much information out of officials then as well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, I want to know if it's a Gascone production that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Will come out eventually. But the other thing that they're
trying to do is prevent any problems of being able
to prosecute the guy. But if I don't know if
you heard the press conference, but Luna did make a
point to say that he personally spoke with Gascon, and
Gascon said he would uh use the full force of
his office to go after this guy. So take that
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for what it's worth, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well I really want to know the context
of the circumstances of this Steve is he just drove
up alongside the deputy's patrol car and just shot.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Him, Yeah, from behind. Happening Saturday night around six o'clock
at the intersection of Sierra Highway and Avenue Q. And
that's right in front of the Palmdale Shriff station. That's
a pretty ballsy effort, right in the middle of It
wasn't broad dayla per se. It was dusk, but it
was still bright enough outside where you could see clearly
what was going on. And it was some grainy surveillance
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video that gave him the imagery of that gray Toyota Corolla.
And it was after the press conference yesterday at four
o'clock in Palmdale with the sheriff that led the SWAT
team to that house. Apparently after they showed the photos
of that car, tips started to pour in. I mean,
it was just they said, it was unbelievable how quickly
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people called in. And one of the giveaways in that
photo too were those very unique hubcaps. It was a
very unique design of hubcap that was on that car.
And they immediately got some tips that came in and
they were able to pretty much vet and find this
guy pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Do we know who he's living with in that in
that home?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
All the family members? All they said, family members, We
don't know if we have a wife or a mother.
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Twelve noon, he also going to Times has published a
story John, don't know if you have it in front
of you, by three writers who interviewed the mother, And
we're going to get into that in a moment, but
we want to finish the details off with Steve first,
but it does focus a lot on mental illness allegedly
of this suspect. I had seen that in a story
that too is paranoid schizophrenic. The mother says, oh, so
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diagnosed five years ago hearing voices in his head because
I was going to ask Steve. They don't believe that
he targeted this deputy, that he knew that, or he
just decided the voices and had told him to kill
a cop. We don't know that yet.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, no, and that they said. That's why they say
there was no parent motive. No, you know, clear immediate
motive and no ties to gang. So then you have
to start kind of taking it from there and finding
out about his home life. And here's the thing, so
if he is in fact a paranoid schizophrenic, they also
found a cache of weapons. They said they found numerous
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weapons in his possession inside that home. So it also
begs the question, so if mom was really worried about
his mental illness, did mom know the guns were in
the house.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I read the article and I said the same thing
to myself. You're letting your son who you admit, because
if you read the story, she's like, oh, they're here
to arrest them for a murder. But what about the
fact that he's been mentally ill these years and no
one's taken care of him. I'm like, yeah, you let
him have a gun. I mean, honestly meant twenty nine
twenty nine guns.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But because often in these families, the parents enable the
crazy person.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They do.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
They don't have the strength to look at the kid critically,
he's still there, but their little baby.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If you think about it, and you know, you look
at the Sandy Hook shooting, that was the situation where
you know, the red flags were up the guy and
the guy had a gun and he was, you know,
diagnosed mentally ill, then that would also answer the question
that I mean, that question came up in the press
conference today. Uh, the sheriff was asked about, you know,
were you aware of this, this guy's mental illness, and
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the Sheriff's like, you know, to the Sheriff's credit, he's like,
I have no idea what one has to do with
the other. Basically, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
An excuse, it's not a defense. It's he should have
been locked up somewhere already if he's that mentally ill
and now he's got to be locked up forever. He
got to get the death penalty. I don't care what
he's got.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Well, it was a pretty brazen act to not only
just target law enforcement in general, but to do it
in broad daylight like that. That takes a lot of balls.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You don't get a pass to kill cops because you're
hearing voices.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, and I think it's interesting that that that narrative
is already underway. You know, it's just kind of interesting
to me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
All Right, Steve, thank you very much for that report.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You got a guy stick care.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's Steve Gregor recovering the shooting of the La County
Sheriff's deputy in Palmdale Saturday night. The suspect is Kevin
Katano Salazar, aged twenty nine, and in this interview that
the Times reporters did in Spanish with his mother, she said,
my son is mentally illly if he did something, he
wasn't into his full mental capacity. They're not only saying
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that he's the one that shop the deputy, but nobody's
saying he has a record for needing mental help. That's
what I meant, Like, she's pleading that nobody's helped him,
and now look what's happened. He hears voices in his head.
Sometimes comes home telling his parents and siblings cars or
people were following.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Him on the streets. Good.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
At times, he'd grow so upset he would cover his
ears with his hands, yell, or stick his head in
a trash can to drown out the voices.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Good, excellent, and him let him go driving a car
round town. Right, and let him have twenty nine weapons.
They want to throw mom and everyone else in that
family into prison with him. They're just as dangerous. They
created the situation.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Ask him what is he hearing? He would just get hysterical.
He'd grow upset. We try to calm him down. Often
after such episodes, her son would start to act like
a child of five years old and asked to be hugged.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's got a severely damaged brain. You can't calm him down.
You can't get him to a better place. It's impossible.
It's brain damage. The brain doesn't work. It's never going
to be fixed. You put those people in a mental institution,
you lock them up.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He said that he I hospitalized in Silmar in the
past year. Seem to be doing better, but stop taking
his medication about ten months ago, but he appeared to
be calm so that he didn't press the issue.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you don't force the medication down their throats, it's pointless.
Without the medication, their brain reverts back to its natural state.
The medication hides the symptoms until you stop taking the medication,
and then the brain goes back to regular programming, which
is insanity and voices and violence. I can't believe at
this late date in twenty twenty three, that nobody has
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a basic understanding of mental illness and how it works.
And you can't teach them, you can't fix them, you
can't rehabilitate them. I'm just we're like such a stupid,
stupid society when it comes to mental illness. When the
brain is damaged, it's damaged. It's like trying to run
a car on four blown tires. You can't. The car
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doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised he as a
criminal record, but obviously he has the psychological record if
he was actually diagnosed, and we're probably gonna find out
that the voices in his head drove and to kill
somebody and with a police car really got his attention.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But you don't want the dumbass psychiatric industry. All they
do is give you medication that everyone knows most of
the schizophrenics don't even take because one of the aspects
of being a schizophrenic is you don't know you're crazy.
You don't think you're crazy, you don't have that self awareness,
so you don't you don't want to take the medication.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, along these lines, when we come back, I can't
every time I see these kinds of numbers, I just
I can't believe it. Over one thousand bills are headed
to Gavin Newsom a thousand, most of them horrible and useless,
and we'll get to that. The one we're going to
talk about when we come back is sort of related
to what we're talking about now. They have passed a
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bill that supposedly is going to give them more power
to amend the California mental illness laws and whether or
not we can take conservatorship of people.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
The woman behind this piece of legislation, I really kind
of doubt it. Although there are, of course people in
the healthcare field who fear that this will take away
civil liberties.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We'll talk about when we come back here, know, somebody
shure taken away the civil liberties of this cop killer.
We got to start taking away civil liberties. That's got
to be the next frontier. Johnny Ken I AM six
forty We're live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app.
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Up on the radio from one till four after four
o'clock the John Again on Demand podcast. We'll be posted
same show. You can pick up what you missed.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So the word from family members of the guy who's
been arrested for shooting the Ellie County Sheriff's deputy to
death on Saturday night in Palmdale is that he's a
paranoid schizophrenic, which brings us to this story because it's
dealing with the horrible legislature. They finished their session on Friday,
which means they pushed through apparently a thousand bills have
been sent together, a thousand bills. Anyway, we're going to
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talk about one right now, Senate Bill forty three, because
this has come up on the show many times over
the years in the past. Nineteen sixty seven, they changed
the behavioral health laws known as LPs. The Act went
into effect in nineteen seventy two, and this was because
we well they thought we were over institutionalizing people, putting
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people in horrible mental health facilities. They were treated like crap.
Of them died of neglect, and it was all about
just taking money and terrible housing. So you know, they
tried to make it I guess a little more difficult
to get what they call conservativeship nearly impossible. Yeah, well,
so what they've tried to do with this bill, and
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it's from a woman that is particularly out there progressive,
Susan Telmante's eggman from Stockton, a Democrat state senator. But
it did pass, and it's on its way to Newsome.
And it's supposed to change the definition of somebody who
is considered gravely disabled, some call it they're trying to
modernize the definition.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well, they're adding severe substance use disorder. Yes, that's just
dead substance use, all right, So the math addicts and
the heroin fentinel attics supposedly will be scooped up off
the streets, right, that's what you'd think.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
This Act is only as good as it's implemented. Right, Well,
just because it's there. It doesn't mean anybody will do it.
It's up to the counties to carry this out. And
immediately responses they don't have enough mental health facilities to
take care of all these people you think you're taking
in for conservativeship. This is why there's a six billion
dollar bond on next year's ballot. Did you know that
to us?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, well, this is when they screwed up back in
nineteen seventy two. Is when the new law was implemented.
Actually he was passed in sixty seven, and yes, Ronald
Reagan signed it, and it was bipartisan, huge support both parties.
Everybody was into this. But there was a part two
to the bill that was never followed through. There were
supposed to be tons of tax money used so that
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local and regional mental health and drug addiction facilities would
be built and staffed and all these damaged brains would
be treated properly. So they let everybody out of the
mental hospitals. But they didn't. They built hardly any mental
health and drug treatment centers, so they all ended up
on the street.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
They were supposed to come involuntarily for this mental health
and drug treatment. But I but how come if that
law took effect in nineteen seventy two. How come it
took until this past decade for this to get so atrocious?
Is it because we passed to Prop forty seven and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yes, when we dumped the prisoners in twenty eleven, when
we passed forty seven, when we passed fifty seven, when
we got rid of you know, bail, when we stopped
putting people in jail for misdemeanors. Oh, and the tremendous
drug trade over the Mexican border, right the border went
to hell. And these Mexican lab technicians are making incredible myth.
(14:35):
And the myth is made of synthetic chemicals, and the
chemicals and the combinations that they use now didn't exist
back then. They didn't have these kind of drug problems.
Back then, people were mostly getting stoned and using coke.
This didn't exist in this form. It's extremely deadly. The
fentonolse extremely deadly. That was another thing that didn't exist
(14:58):
in this form. And it's because they have perfected and
they constantly improve on the synthetic drugs in these labs.
The ingredients come from China to Mexico. Mexico manufactures it
and sends it here over the border, and the drug
cartels make billions that entire infrastructure didn't exist fifty years.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Ago like it does today, not even ten years ago. No,
not even ten years from quite a business, and fentanyl
is adding to the problem. So it says here under
the bill, if evidence is found that a mental health
disorder of substance use disorder is placing or will place
a person's physical or mental health at substantial risk of
serious harm, crisis teams and mental health providers can initiate
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an involuntary hold that can lead to conservativeship. Well, then
my question is who are the crisis teams and mental
health providers we're talking about? All these are the little
ambassadors that already walk around, the outreach workers from the
nonprofits who really don't.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Look like they want to take anybody in under conservativeship.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's not need somebody to know, I mean the outreach
teams from these nonprofits.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I'm not gonna use the word ambassador. It's more about security.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But I'm talking about the outreach workers from these nonprofits
that are out there that we've seen put ultimately homeless camps.
You're gonna you're gonna need police with guns, because allow
that to happen, the counties aren't allowed police with guns, well,
then they're not going to be put away. And this
will fail. That's why I'm saying it may fail. It's
only as good as it's implemented. That's my problem with
this bill. This is something for everybody to run on
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next year. That's all because they know when they go
home to their districts and the primaries are going to
be in March, right, The primaries are pretty close. They're
in March, you know for the legislature and then the
general election in November. Everybody's going to be running in
their districts, and people who represent the Los Angeles, San Diego,
San Francisco and all the rest, everyone's going to be
(16:49):
screaming at them. Everyone's going to be screaming at him
over the crime and the homeliness and the drug addicts
and the mental patients. So they're all going to have
a standard speech on an index and they're gonna explain
this new UH Conservation Act that's and and everyone's gonna nod,
going on, well, that sounds good, you know, I'm glad
we're finally getting smart about this.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I gotna see yeah, well, let's give it a chance,
and then then that's gonna be the next like, let's
give it a chance. Right now, you're gonna see two years,
there's gonna be a story Howe Newsom's uh, Newsom's conservancy
plan didn't really work, didn't change it. I have to
give it a chance. The funding is just starting to trinkle.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's usually what they say, right, the same thing with
the housing bills, right, that's what they said.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
If give it a.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Chance, we'll have all the homeless house within a few years.
Just let us spend billions more.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
If I thought we had intelligent people running this, then yeah,
maybe something good will happen. We don't have intelligent people,
and you know we don't. We don't have intelligent politicians
and representatives. All right, we got more coming up. Johnny
Ken kf I am six forty. We're live everywhere at
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Speaker 1 (18:07):
Every hour.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
During the show, we'll be looking at more of the
crazy pieces of legislation that passed in Sacramento.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
We'll get back to that later.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Now we return to an oldie, but a goodie, the
price of gasoline jaw dropping, right, John would be be
I guess we could be reeling and roiling over what's
happened in just the last few days. Of five cent
jumped today, on top of a fourteen cent jump the
day before. The average price of gallon of a gas
(18:36):
at a regular gas at Los Angeles County is making
its way towards the six dollars mark very rapidly.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I was in Florida last week. Oh that's right, Yes,
three dollars and forty cents.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Well, we're rising to the record we had October of
last year and it was six fifty six dollars and
fifty cents. Well, that's heading towards six gallons. And there
seems to be no break to this, although.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Gavin Newsom and the legislature and it's their taxes, that's
the difference between us and everybody else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So the only thing I learned last week when I
talked about this on the air is, and you're gonna laugh,
the winter blend is coming.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So that usually drops the price by put.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Of the house.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, but there's a structural problem in California. The gas
the taxes are excessive, period, They're excessive and abusive, and
it hurts the middle class and the lower class, and
everybody keeps voting for the same jack holes who steal
their money every gallon, every tankful. It's fascinating to me.
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I really, everybody ought across the border and go drive
into other states for a day and if you could
afford to and see what it's like in most of
the rest of the United States, it's nothing close to
this well, and you're simply getting bent over and ripped
off it.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
That leads us to this story, because if you think
it's bad now, it's going to get.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
A lot worse.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Because the state of California has sued the five major
oil companies and their trade association for eight decades long
campaign of deception and creating statewide climate change related harms
in California. This is supposed to be like the tobacco lawsuits,
that these oil companies knew that their product leads to
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climate change and use lies and mythschuites to cover up
what they were doing to the environment. I know you're
probably laughing, but that's the lawsuit and the endgame for
this dopey Rob Bonta, the Attorney general, is to take
billions from them. Yeah, that's what he probably wants to
shave down from it. What do you think is going
to happen to your gas prices?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Then?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
In California, it's a mafia shakedown, that's all it is.
It's a preposterous lawsuit. Anybody can file lawsuit, and anybody
can hire some scumbag lawyers to create complicated legal arguments
that are nonsense. It's easy to do.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
And Bonta can spend our tax money on an absurd
lawsuit because hey, he wants to be the next governor
after do some so he wants you want us to
lead to an absurd judge and an absurd jury and
of finding against the oil companies now and they'll just
turn around and either leave the state, which further diminishes
the supply, or raise your gas prices.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But they don't. That's what's going to happen with this.
They don't care all a guy like Bonta, like Newsome,
they're in a cult. And when when people are religious fundamentalists,
they do irrational, crazy things. How many times have you
seen it on television? A group of fundamentalist religious people
went on a rampage today. They did. They're they're crazy,
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they're insane. Wars are started over religion. That's what this is.
This is a religious war that they've declared on the
oil companies and really on us because we have, we have,
we have to pay for this nonsense, and they're trying
to force people into electric cars, and electric cars suck.
You know, the whole electric car system doesn't work, and
everybody knows it doesn't work, and not on a mass basis.
(22:05):
You are right, it doesn't, It absolutely doesn't. But you
know what, the public's onto this because I heard a
business report this morning where a reporter said he talked
to a Ford dealer who has rows and rows and
rows of cars on his lot, and guy asked him,
It's like, what are all these cars on the lot? Oh?
Those are the electric cars that the government is forcing
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us to sell, but nobody wants them.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, save it for next hour, because you're all going
to get into the United Auto Workers strike because there
is of course a huge connection to the electric vehicle story.
So we'll get to that after two o'clock. Bonta wants
to create Oh my god, a nuisance abatement fund. So
he's going to take and I'm just using a figure
the billions he's going to get from these oil companies
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and use it to try to repair destruction caused by
the pollution.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I have no idea. What there's no destruction in the
state of California, just a way of bagging money into
the state. Coffers all this is. It's not pollution and
there's no destruction. There's been no damage to the state
of California because of their alleged climate change. What damage?
What pollution? Carbon dioxide is a natural element in the
(23:16):
atmosphere and it's what keeps trees and plants alive. It's
what we exhale. So the idea that what we exhale
and what trees and plants inhale is pollution is completely
utterly absurd. This I don't know. I don't know what
else to say. I mean, you can have an argument
where there's some good points to the argument. You can
(23:37):
see both sides all that there's nothing here. There's no
such thing as this being pollution. That's a made up term.
Because people weren't responding to their original arguments. They have
been selling this now for over twenty five years, and
people weren't buying for a long time, so they had
to change the language. Right, They didn't buy global warming
(23:58):
because you know, people kept enjoying bad winters. I can't
call it global I gotta call the climate change. Oh
we've got we've got to call it pollution now and
and and you know most look, half the public has
an IQ of of average or below. Okay, half half
the public is below one hundred on the IQ scale.
(24:21):
So what do you think you think you're gonna be
able to teach them the nuances of climate change, the
nuances of the law.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
No, well, that's why they're so easily uh stirred up
by warm summers. And that that's all the media has
to do is run stories about that it's killing us.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Do something. It's not killing us. It's not way more people.
The Times will say the August was the hottest on
the planet's history. See the other day. The Times doesn't
know that. That's impossible to know. That is complete nonsense,
recorded history. You know what, I read something last night.
I was reading National Geographic and this is gonna sound stupid,
(24:59):
but just with me for ten seconds. They had a
story on cedar trees in North Carolina a cedar tree forest.
Don't ask me why I was reading this. And in
the middle of the story they talked about what they
did is they drilled into the core of a cedar
tree that was one thousand or two thousand years old,
and then they looked at the core sample that they
pulled out, and they found out that there was a really,
really long drought in the fifteen hundreds. And the scientists said, wow, Wow,
(25:24):
there's nothing in the last century that comes anywhere near
what was going on in North Carolina in the fourteen hundreds.
They had extremely long drought went on for decades and decades.
And I looked at that. It's like, yeah, how many,
how many? How many cars were being driven around in
North Carolina in fourteen sixty, but they had a big
(25:47):
drought and probably it was really hot. This is nonsense.
They made this scene.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You had a very long, boring vacation, you're reading about
cedar trees. No.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I had a flight on the East coast, and I
was very tired last night, but I was trying to
keep myself awake so I could adjust to the time difference.
So there was a national geographic lying around, and I
thought I forced myself to read it and pick it up,
and I got engrossed in the Cedar Tree article.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Okay, we got war coming up Johnny Kid CAF I
AM six forty live everywhere.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
iHeartRadio app Deborah Mark. By the way, she's wearing intellectual
glasses now as she reads the news. She's trying to
change her image.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I am.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I want to be taken more seriously, Kain, So I
have to work so that you got an extra like yeah,
thirty IQ points right there with the glasses.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
All right, you're listening to John and Ken on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
All right, coming up after two o'clock. I thought I
was hearing things when the a lotted auto workers went
on strike. But it's real and we'll get to the
bottom of it. It has a lot to do with electric
vehicle production, so we'll get into that after the news
at two o'clock. The shocking story Friday that an armed
(27:04):
man showed up at a Robert F. Kennedy Junior rally
in Los Angeles dressed up like a US marshal, raised
a lot of alarms. Apparently RFK Junior was speaking at
a Hispanic heritage event at the Wilshire Ebell Theater, which
wasn't really that far from where his father was killed.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Robert F.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Kennedy not just a miler two. This to Miler two.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So what we've learned about Adrian Paul Espuro, the forty
four year old who has been detained, brings us back
to what we talked about earlier this hour, Conservatorship, Holy mackerel.
It turns out he's a huge anti vaxer. He's a
big Trump fan. His brother, I think described him best.
(27:54):
The Daily Beast had a chance to talk to his brother, Raymond.
Raymond confirmed that his brother remains in custody, but called
bs on Kennedy's claim that the accused attempted to approach
him because Kennedy put out a press release thanking security
and such for detaining this man. It says here Raymond Espiro,
(28:16):
the brother, said police also detained him at the theater
and searched his vehicle. He highlighted videos posted online showing
cops cuffing his brother on the sidewalk outside the Wilshire Ebel.
He said his brother is an unemployed EMT who lives
with their parents, does not have a car asked him
for a ride to what the accused told them was
a single day security job. The brother said, he told
(28:39):
me he was in communication with someone about a gig,
a private contract gig, a one time deal, and he
had to go that day.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
To work it.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I don't know who he talks to or what I
just get whatever vague information he gives me. Oh, his
imaginary friends hired him. Yeah, so he went there dressed
up like he was an official Marshal security guy because
in his brain some voice must have been telling him
they need me.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Where did he get to go there? Where did he
get the uniform? You can probably buy that stuff home.
You could find a US Marshall's unifor well, it looks
close enough. Yeah, it says here he has.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
A shoulder hostel holsters, identical shirts that look like the sunglasses.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But apparently he's probably he's posted a lot of stuff
to TikTok dealing with Every schizophrenic has their own social
media show. Isn't that great?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah? His brother says that he spends a lot of
time watching videos about aliens. Uh space, aliens ought to
be locked up. I just looked up you know how
many par schizophrenics there are in America almost three million.
Well think about that, almost three million people are wandering
(29:49):
around living in an imaginary world where where they have
all kinds of fake people talking to them all day.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
They can see them. They're being spoken to. The dogs
are talking to them.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
He really has a strong slant against vaccines. But apparently
he expressed a belief that his own name has a
special numerological significance and he had a desire to communicate
with motorcycle gangs.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Why is he going after Robert Kennedy because they would share, right,
Maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Maybe in his head he was going there to help
and protect RFK Jr. But it says here according to
his brother, he is a Trump fan. I mean, you
could be both.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I guess can you imagine being Kennedy? Though I'm amazed
he's running for office. You mean, just the nervousness over.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Thegacy, the family history, because lunatics like this character.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't care what he says.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
What you're looking at as a guy in a fake
federal law enforcement uniform and a loaded gun and he's
going to attend a Robert Kennedy event two miles from
where the guy's dad got assassinated and.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
RFK and his message.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
RFK Junior added, I am the only presidential candidate in
history who does not have Secret Service protection.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
My request was denied. Well, that's true. He's still hoping
Biden will allow him secret Service protection. You have to
hit You're supposed to hit two criteria. First of all,
it is it is subjective up to a point. Right,
They're not going to give every candidate Secret Service protection.
But once you're within a certain timeframe of the primary season,
then you can get it if you have five percent
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of the vote in the polls. Now he does have
that on the Democratic side, it's just not primary season yet.
Maybe I don't know when that officially is the window
kick in some point, But I mean, Biden's administration could
choose to give him secret Service protection, but they said no,
draw your own dark conclusion.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Let the goat hang in the wind, all right, More
coming up. Johnny Ken, KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere,
the iHeartRadio.
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