September 19, 2023 • 31 mins
Steve Gregory comes on the show to talk about the end of cash bail in LA County. A trespasser stabbed a Napa homeowner who then turned around and took the knife out of his back and stabbed the trespasser. Thousands of minks were let loose from a fur farm in Pennsylvania.
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look at that, especially towards you, Steve always right. Wait
wait if anyone ever actually knew our history? Oh no, jesus,
(00:44):
I don't know. How are you, Steve? I'm well, guys,
how are you? You're well? Good? You're world warm and
cuddling to me, Steve, Well, why not? I mean I
don't have Ken here. I mean I got to be
warm and coudly to somebody. Oh well, a little friction
between you two only for eighteen years, all right, So
we're going to talk about no bail. It's exciting news. Yeah,
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so these are to me, these are serious crimes that
they're no longer going to have bail for like somebody
steals my car, I want him hold up for a
while until he comes up with some bail money, not
even a dollar, not under this new bail schedule that
starts October first. Now I don't know what you're looking at,
but I received a letter from the Los Angeles County
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Police Chiefs Association and this is their analysis of this
new law that takes and it's a county wide thing
that takes effect October first, and what this memo was
doing that went out to all the members and just
so you know, the membership is of every police department
in the County of Los Angeles. Every chief of every
department in La County is a member of this organization.
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So you got to you got to think that there's
a lot of people that have to know what's going
on here with this new bail schedule, because this will
impact every member of law enforcement in the County of
Los Angeles. So this group of law enforcement agencies agree
or disagree with this, well, it's written in a very
interesting way. It's basically they have no say in it.
I mean, they can lobby and they can give their input,
(02:16):
but at the end of the day, it's lawmakers that
make the decision, and law enforcement just has to comply.
So you know, I'll jump to the last paragraph to
answer your question. This represents the significant change in protocols
for all law enforcement agencies in Los Angeles County. The
LA County Policechiefs Association remains committed to the safety and
security of our communities, will continue to work within the
(02:36):
procedures set forth by the Superior Court of Los Angeles County,
and is a profession make recommendations from improvement at every opportunity.
Oh you know, I'm so sick of the gobbledygook PC
woke Langridge. Why don't they tell the truth? Why don't
they say, hey, this is not going to make a difference,
everything's great, or this is the worst policy they could
have come up with. I mean, what does that mean?
That is just that is diarrhea, John simmer Down, So
(02:59):
go back, no diarrhea. No, no, here, here's the thing,
you remember, this is going to the membership. Yeah, and
so the membership understands it's not going to the public.
So they understand. Internally, they all know what's going on.
But what they're having to do here is they have
to give tangible and they have to give realistic, you know,
examples of what this new law is going to be.
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So that's what this is. More of an informational I know.
But the public needs somebody advocating for us, which and
maybe all law enforcement agencies would be the perfect partner,
which is why this ended up in my lap. Yeah,
you see what I mean because it sounds like surrender
that well, they can't surrender. I mean, these are people
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making laws. They don't make the laws. Know, they don't
make the laws, but they can screen bloody murder when
they when the legislators make bad laws. This came from
a judge, did it not. Yeah, it was the you know,
Superior Court of Los Angeles actually approved a set But
with the blessing of the border supervisors, how does this work?
He's got total control overscrew it up the county or
(04:03):
can the supervisors overrule him it in? Well, superior court,
like you're presiding judge, they have say over how the
bail schedule works because the necessarily bail schedule as long
as they're following state statutes, they don't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Have to do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The legislature could do something about this, but of course
they won't because they're pro criminal. So let me tell
you what's going on here. Just I want to just
run this through before I run out of time. On here.
There are three types now, three possible actions by law
enforcement for an arrestees' release. There's a site and release,
a book and release, or a magistrate review. Capital offenses
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like murder and special circumstances, and some felonies are not
eligible for the zero bail release for now, for now.
So let take for instance, this is the example that
they put in this memo as an example of this change.
A person arrested for false imprisonment under this new protocol
would be eligible for book and release. False imprisonment. Okay,
(05:02):
what what would be a false imprisonment crime?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
What would be the circumstances a false imprisonment would be
like like taking somebody hostag Yeah, yes, yeah, I like
taking somebody against their will and holding them in a
room or in a car or something and that. But
that's not kidnapping. No, there's different levels of kidnapping, right, false,
So false imprisonment is in the kidnapping family. Yeah, it's
a lighter. It's kidnapping live, kidnapping like kidnapping live. There's
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no there's no bail for that. So under this so
some guy could grab me off the street, throw me
in the car, no bail. So a person arrested for
false imprisonment under this new protocol would be eligible for
book and release. Under the previous bail schedule, their bail
amount would be fifty thousand dollars. That sounds about right. Likewise,
a person arrested for theft of an automobile is eligible
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for book and release, while under the previous bail schedule,
their bail amount would have been thirty five thousand. Okay,
So I.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Like the next sentence here, Steve. In summary, most arrest
will not be held in custody, but instead reliefed immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So the guy can steal my car and he's not
going to spend a minute in jail. Yes, what does
he get? He gets a ride to the booking station
and then they let him go, right unless if it's
a book of release, that's an arrest. If it's a
sight and release, that's just a ticket. I ticket. I yeah,
So then it's so so it seems. I mean, I've
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seen what happened in New York City. New York City
they had a similar law and it was the same
guys stealing stuff all day. They were constantly getting booked
and released and booked and released. There's no content, And
they were getting caught half a dozen times a day.
Some guys had gotten caught hundreds of times. Yeah, well,
like the pandemic, remember during the pandemic. Well, who wants that? No, seriously,
(06:49):
what's the point of this. The Superior Court apparently wants it.
Who's in charge of the spirit court, Who's who's the
chief justice? What's wrong with him or her? Who are
these people? Nobody wants car auto thieves to get no bail?
Nobody does. Yeah, you remember gain during the pandemic. Remember
that revolving door and that that was that one guy
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that had been back seven times for theft, for auto theft.
Remember that, and then finally the finally it went back
into it. Yes, yeah, it's a stupid policy because auto
theft John is a non serious, non violent To me,
it's a serious crime. My car is gone. Remember this
is all part of a reform package. The reform is
a crap word. That's another one of these euphemisms they
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used to cover up their anarchy. It had been suggested
that uh uh, you know, this was a disproportionate slight
or blight if you will on people of color.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
This is what s because if they can't afford the bail,
it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Wealthier it can. If they steal the car, then they're guilty.
I don't care what their color is. They stole the car. Now,
in some cases, the suspects arrested for certain crimes with
potion increased risk to the public will be referred to
an on call magistrate. So let's say to say, somebody,
you know these certain crimes that increased risks. I don't know,
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peeping tom or something like that. So they'll call an
on call magistrate. That person will have discretion to determine
the appropriate release terms and conditions. Now, some of those
examples of release by magistrate may include prohibitions against committing crimes,
sending text messages to remind the arrest you to appear
in court, and sending text messages are you serious? Show
(08:31):
me that? Show me that? Let me sending text messages,
sending right here less like mind you have a restaurant
reservation less where I just parenthesized there. Some examples of
release conditions include sending text messages to remind the restue
to appear in court. Well, and then what if he
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doesn't respond to the text, but if he blocks the texts? Yeah,
who replies? And for no, that's right. What if they're
confirming an appointment in a barbershop? This is on some table.
I mean. So, here's my point in this is if
you read between the lines here, and I'm trying my best,
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I'm trying to read between this organization is telling people
this is stupid. This is what this organization is doing.
Why don't they put out a release that says this
is stupid, because we're gonna send texts just so that
the car thief can remember to go to court. Police
chiefs are appointed. They're not elected. They don't have the
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same kind of latitude that a sheriff does who's an
elected person. They don't have the same kind of voice.
They don't have to say to they just have to Yes,
I'll buy them a soap box and they can stand
on it their salary. When they get fired, they're gonna
get the people who would fire them ought to get fired,
the county supervisor, in the mail and city council. They're
the ones who ought to get fired. Well, I'll tell
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crap I'll text you to remind this is a disaster.
So this is October first, right, it's the October first,
and this is a county wide thing. All hell breaks loose,
you know what. I think people should sell their homes
and move. This is ridiculous. Wait, so if a guy
breaks into your house and steals your I don't know
your your your computers, your music equipment right, your television?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What is that? Well? Is that a freeb two? As
a property crime? These new release terms, law enforcement must
cite and release or book and release arrestees and nearly
all theft offenses, no vehicle code violations, and crimes against
properties such as petty theft and vandalism, no offenses involving guns,
sexual battery, crimes against children with intent to commit sexual offense,
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or examples of offensive subject to a magistrate review of
that on call magistrate. So if you think about this
other here, these smash and grabs, Yeah, all site and release, okay,
but the magistrate review. He's not compelled to give those criminals.
That's why it said discretion. Discretion. You press a button
on the wall, that little magistrate comes out. Hello, what
if he doesn't answer his phone? Well, then you text
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him a reminder to show up. I might being to
call a lot. He might be in a motel room
with a hooker. I mean, we don't get that open
table app open. Oh my, So I thought you'd like this. Yeah, thanks,
we do. Thank you always pretty good stuff. And decided
this is pressing stuff. I want names. I want names.
Who who Who's show?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah it says Los Angeles County Superior Court. But I
saw there was a judge. I thought that was mostly
involved in this decision. Yeah, it's a it's it came
out in July because I am I judge.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I can.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
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the word idiot. I'm sure his photo will show up.
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Speaker 3 (12:07):
The microphone Icona called the Tephrey number one eight seven
seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven six, six,
four seven, eight eight six, So were you able to
obtain the name of this presiding Los Angeles County Superior
Court judge that is responsible for no bail in the
county coming October one?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It seems to be Samantha Jesner. Samantha, it's not the
name I remember, but maybe it is.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Well.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Up until the fall of twenty twenty two, it was
Eric C. Taylor. And yeah, depend on what website you're on,
you get different information. That's probably on purpose decision. So yeah,
as the story came out.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
In July, and because I just looked it up, and
but it didn't have a name, but it said in
July it was now going to be the effective October first,
to be a lot of no bail situations in Los
Angeles County in an order from the Los Angeles County
Superior Court. But I remember seeing this story back in July,
and I thought I saw a male judge's name attached
to it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But well, maybe this was written up by the previous guy.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Ray.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We got to get a definite idea on who the
presiding judges and are they responsible for this or is
it some other committee or is it the county board
of supervisors. This is a atrocity. And and you know what,
these people at to be recalled. They're got to be
kicked out of office. So now a guy can break
into your house and steal whatever he wants and there's
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gonna be no bail.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, I mean, the joke is the revolving door. You know,
if they arrest him, they'll just decide him and send.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Him back out. That's not even a door. That's not
even a door. I don't know, a hinge a little.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's a turnstile. It's a turnstyle, yes, and they call
it turnstyle justice. It turnstyle and turnstyle right back out again.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
A right.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So we've been hearing more and more stories lately about
people fighting back. Of course, the famous one of the
seven eleven where the two clerks beat the shoplifting feet
with the sticky and it happened again at another store. This, though,
is probably my favorite from this round of people want
to do something about crime, and we have to go
to Napa County. Napa County, apparently a sixty one year
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old man they not identified him, went outside his home
to check on a circuit breaker because the power went
out in his residence, which is you know, if you
watch any horror movie, very suspicious. Right, He's outside and
he sees some weird guy on his property, a thirty
three year old man by the name of Andrew Dixon.
According to police, the two had never met before, but
Dixon is standing there on the guy's property.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So maybe he's the one that cut the wires. I
don't know. So the sixty one year old confronted him,
what are you doing in my property?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He pulls out a knife and stabs the victim in
the back. They get into a fight, They wrestle. Here's
the best part. The sixty one year old man pulls
that knife out of his back and stabs this guy
right in the chest.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yes, that is one tough dude, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He reached around, pulled that knife out of his back
and stabbed the attacker right in a chest.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Didn't kill him, unfortunately. Oh that is the coolest thing
I've ever heard. That is that is the best.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I wish I knew this guy's name. Man, I'd like
to send him a gift, maybe his own knife.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Wow, how about that? Uh? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
The stabbing brought the perpetrator, Dixon to his knees, remained
subdued until the cops arrived.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Who both men know have been treated for lawn life,
that the injuries are both going to recover. Who sided? Yeah,
the police sided him and released Really well.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It says here he's been He's on jail suspicion of
attempted murder, elder abuse, and assault with a deadly weapon.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
No John in custody without bail and nappocant. Is that right? Well,
this was a physical, violent offense, so that's not stealing
a car. You have to end up with a knife
in your back before they put them in jail. Huh wow.
That's an old expression.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know, if life make lemonade, if you give you
a lemon, if somebody put the knife in your back,
you balled that knife out and stabled with in the chest.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
He's wrestling the guy and he's thinking, man, if I
just had a weapon, Wait, there's a knife in my back.
Let me do a reach around. That's pretty funny, right way.
Let me think Oh yeah, we shouldn't laugh. But this
guy did an incredibly brave thing. Yeah. I wouldn't have
thought to do that. I just would have died.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Oh you know, I'm looking at the story and I
see something kind of sad. An advertisement. You can go
to the Ace Hotel in Los Angeles on Friday and
see the last Monkey. Mickey Dolan's is appearing.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Look at that. Yeah, it says the monkey celebrated by
Mickey Dolans. Well, the other three died. I thought it
was honestly, you said that, I have some kind of
zoo exit. I call it the last Monkey. Yeah, the
last standing. It was the last of a species. Oh,
it's just sad because I think Mike Nestsmith just died
within the last year. Yeah, I believe did. Yeah, yeah,
(16:53):
so he's doing a Should you go to the Monkey's
concert when we did go with you?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I can't remember. I know Mickey Dolan's was there. Was
Davy Jones I think he was. Yes, three of them
I think were there. Yeah, Mike Nessmith was not right.
There was one work because they had they had an album.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I did.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I was there with you. Yeah, that's right, man. Album
they did. They had to hit that. They had a
hit record.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now they had made a comeback, so they were doing
the tour. I wasn't keeping track. I didn't know they
were almost all gone.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
You guys are going to sing a song. They'd be
really cute.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I am not going to sing a song. No, No,
John does not sing. I do not sing, And I
don't want to offend him because you're You're the only
one who asks me to. Nobody else does I know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But I can like to sing.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
But I figured you went to the you like the monkeys.
I think it would be really cool to hear you guys.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Do a little duet.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
My family doesn't even want to hear me sing Happy
Birthday to them. Oh you're back stop. Yes. I can't
recall ever hearing him sing either, like even in the car.
I learned early on this hour that wasn't a sound. No,
I don't sing in the shower. It's harmful. It bothers
the dog. All right, more coming up, Johnny. If I
am six forty live everywhere heard radio an, I gotta
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stop showering with the dog.
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Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm gonna lick you up. Oh, we have Havevin Newsom,
who's doing a great job. We have Rish. You'll get
Covin Deleone, Wendy Korele. Because it is a team effort.
Speaker 10 (18:24):
Governor Pomo has become a national.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Leader, garnering the nickname America's Governor.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
And a very very special thank you to our governor,
no other than Gavin Us because it.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is this partnership with Joe Biden that makes us come
to reality. You spoke to National Guard troops today an
assuring speech that if I wasn't listening carefully, I thought
you were sending soldiers off to Lester. I'm gonna get
Jimmy Gomez in a second.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
A good Christians find out, Oh yeah, you it's time
for your tongue bass rub a dub dub stick.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
This was John Cobelt's idea this desk. I'm telling you
that nicely produced. There just my thing, h Director Eric Sclark.
You know it's weird. The tongue bather that we're gonna
highlight here is actually Newsome. He's not getting the tongue bath.
He's the tongue baither. He's giving the tongue back.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Usually he receives the tongues he does.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
A lot of other state officials like to look up
to Newsom and give them the tongue, and in this case,
Newsom is tongue bathing. Old Joe and Kamala Harris, Oh
oh oh, can you imagine? Oh you can see Biden
in the tub like a kitten and Newsom is applying
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the tongue bath.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Is that your imagining? I'm gonna go home, is Harry body?
That's too much? Uh?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
He was on CNN with Dana Bash and will play
the first clip you could prepare yourself. Man, this is
of course everyone's asking the same thing. Biden's too old,
isn't he? And if you just ate lunch and let's
listen to this.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I know you are downplaying concerns about his age, but
do you believe that voters don't have any reason to
be concerned that he would be eighty six year years
old by the end of his.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Second Voters have every right to be concerned. But maybe
I'm a little I remember Bobby Kennedy said it best
said what the world needs are the qualities of youth,
not a time of life, but a state of mind,
a quality of imagination.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I mean this, I could imagine.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Three years ago that this president could accomplish so much
in such a short period of time. I mean that,
if this political season is all about a celebrity, with
all due respect, we had a celebrity for four years.
It didn't go well, and so I want a seasoned
pro and those are to get things done. I'm a
little old fashioned. I want a guy who produces results.
And the results are in. It's been a masterclass. There's
(20:58):
simply no administration in my life class. It's been more effective,
producing more substant results.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So let's stop and really appreciate that tongue bath for Biden. Wow,
a master class.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
No one's accomplished more in the first term of their
administration than this president.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Are you kidding me? He is a joke. I mean,
he is a clown. What is he hoping? Then? Maybe
for some kind of appointment? What Biden does continue on?
What does he want? I don't understand, but I mean
playing the party line so desperately. It's said that was
that was more than tongue there, Oh, the qualities of youth.
(21:35):
But that's what Biden has. I mean, I mean, there's
so many things that are disastrous, starting with the massive inflation.
Oh do you know what what gas was today?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
For me?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Do you know what gas was? Six dollars? Six dollars
and thirty cents? Now you know what I paid huge
amounts in the last few days. I paid in Florida
last week three dollars and forty cents. Now I come here,
it's six dollars. That's two dollars. And now you got
to drive to Florida and fill up and then come back.
I think it would work two dollars and ninety cents
a gallon difference. Two dollars and ninety cents. I got
(22:09):
a twenty gallon tank. That's fifty eight dollars per tank.
Fifty eight dollars difference.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
What if we wanted one of the gas guys on again?
And so he's just gonna tell us it's refine every problems.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's not my problems, No, it's it's it's most of
its taxes. Half of its taxes. I don't know what
the other half is. Yeah, but those taxes are always there.
This run up is from more than we or he's
got those taxes. And this this, this, this empty headed
gooten do some. He's gonna conduct an investigation into, uh,
(22:42):
what price gouging? How come nobody the oils are how
come the oil companies don't gouge anybody in Florida? They
only godge people here? Do you know it's eighty cents
higher than Hawaii. They gotta they got a drag tankfuls
of gasoline three thousand miles across the ocean, and it's
eighty cents cheaper in hole. How could that be?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
The last time I checked, the state of Washington passed us.
But I don't know if that to tell them we're
number one. I checked yesterday. We are number one. All right, Well,
here is the other person that gets a tongue bath
from Gavin Newsom in the CEA in an interview, and
it's none other than the Vice President.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
You and Vice President Kamala Harris go way back. You
say that you came up together in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
New York when we were in politics, before you were
in politics.
Speaker 10 (23:24):
I'm sure you saw that former Speaker Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,
she heaped praise on Kamala Harris, but she declined to
say whether or not she thought that the vice president
is the best person to be on the ticket with
Joe Biden in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you, of course she is Biden Harris administration masterclass in.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Terms of she loves this new word after class.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Was he taught by definition, if I think this administration
last two and year two and a half years been
one of the most outstanding administrations past few decades, and
she's a member of that administration, she gets to lay
and claimed credit to a lot of that success.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Answer is absolutely what impresses him the massive inflation rate
of the last three years. No idea. How about like
the you know, the millions and millions of illegal aliens
that are now clogging up all the major cities. I
don't know, the crime wave of going across the country,
like what what?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
What?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The master class in what? I don't know. It's just
just a genius term that he loves. And she reached
out and he found and he used it in both
clearly played right. Did somebody did somebody does learn new
gobbledygook terms?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
He well, again, he's full of tech jargon, and this
is just one that was rattled around in his head
while he was doing this interview.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But Dana Bash, the potted plant, just sat there and
she couldn't think of anything to say. She say, master moron,
what what? What all you have to ask is, well,
what about the massive inflation that has cut about eighteen
percent into people budgets? Because of the massive spending under
Biden masterclass. I don't I don't understand. She sits there
(25:08):
like she's got a little bottomy. That's amazing, world. We
got more coming up town Ken, KFI sixty live everywhere.
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Deborah Mark as the news.
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So I did a little digging the last hour into
Deborah Mark's mink story.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Do this comes from John?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Not far from where we get our careers in radio
in Pennsylvania. I'm looking at the member ceilings, Grove Ceilands
grow up, Pennsylvania peters grow theeter ceilings Grove Ceilands, Grove
sclis vaguely familiar. There's lock Haven here. I remember lock Haven, Williamsport.
Of course, I used to go down there because that
was the closest place to find a mall when we
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were stuck in Canton, Pennsylvania, or to go to.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Elmira, where it was like forty miles.
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It was still like forty miles to go, but I
was dying to see like a real movie, so I
would drive down there, drive down there every now and then.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
This is the story that Deborah Mark did that.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Apparently in a place called Rockefeller Township, Northumberland County, Pennsylvania,
somebody cut holes in a fence and released thousands of minks. Yeah,
that's a fur farm near Sunbury, Pennsylvania. Wherefore Deborah has
become pro criminal. I have the mak oh, watch what
you hope for Deborah Mark, because there's two problems. By
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the way, they think it's six thousand to eight thousand
nincks got.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Out of it. It is a lot.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
But let's hope that maybe they get corraled into a
farm where they are not going to be used for
somebody's fur coat.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, we're going to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
The last time this happened in Ohio, a bunch of
them were killed in a highway. I guess they tried
to cross a busy road and that was the end.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Of the mank.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
You know what, I'd almost rather than get hit by
a car.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Then be turned into somebody. All right, wait wait wait, wait, wait,
wait wait wait? What comes there on? You was calling
a time out from the bench. You'd rather an animal die?
Speaker 8 (27:29):
I didn't say I wanted an animal.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
You would rather an animal die then an animal be
used for a good and service and be transformed into
a coat that could keep someone warm.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Let me explain the way that they would be killed
to be used as fur is far worse than being
hit by a car.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
So that's what I'll get on.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
A car running over a mink is yeah, you're hit away.
Do you have the sound of a mink getting squashed
by a car? Is that referoire?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, it's Several minks were seen dead along the roadway
near the fur farm. The other problem, Debora Mark, is
apparently they will go and they will eat people's animals.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Yeah, I know that is very sad, and I would
be to keep their.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Small cats and stuff inside them because the mink will
come and grab them.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The minks sound like criminals.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Well, apparently the mink are very dangerous, then don't approach
long because they very hostile and they will be a
danger to pets.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Okay, but they don't deserve to be turned into somebody's
fur coat.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
I stand by what I say.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Take them away where they're not going to be buy
my dogs or your cats, right, but don't turn.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Them into fur you'd rather be roadkill. Yes, do not
go out of your way to catch them or trap them.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
According to the Pennsylvania Game Commission, they can bite or attack,
and they possibly have diseases.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh of course, So let's say they're hostile, they eat
your pets, they're filled with disease.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Yeah, because they're all they're smushed, I'm sure problem this farm,
and then they're catching everything that the other mink.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So they deserve just to get squished by a truck
on the interstate.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
No, I'm saying, they're trying to survive in the wild, right,
So if they get hit by a car, not that
I want them to, but it's better than God knows
how they're going to be euthanized.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
They're kind of ugly little animals though, Okay, so.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Because they're ugly, they deserve to be They they look
like just furry rats to me, what did you picture this?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Like the far side, the person's cutting the hole, all
the mix of going, yeah, we're getting out of here,
no break, and then there comes the truck.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, now where do we go?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah? Whose idea was this? They're going to go this way?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Squash, But they're going to die either way, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But I go with Eric's point. At least it's going
to keep people. They died for a good call, that
was the first.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Yeah, they have a chance of survival.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
That's really what I'm getting at by being free, so
hoefully they don't get hit by a car.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
They know, look bright enough to cross the road. They
got a chance of being a hawk's dinner. Oh yeah,
that's right, that was They just pick him right out
as all right.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Well, I still think that's better than what they're gonna
suffer in a fur farm.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All right.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Coming up next, we're gonna talk once again about the
shooting of the sheriff's deputy over the weekend in Palm Tailers.
Some information certainly concerning the fact that this apparent man
with paranoid schizophrenia who has now confessed to the murders.
I had a gun, and we now understand the gun
was legally purchased. How does that happen since he's been
mentally ill for years according to his family members. We've
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I don't know. How are you, Steve? I'm well, guys,
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warm and coudly to somebody. Oh well, a little friction
between you two only for eighteen years, all right, So
we're going to talk about no bail. It's exciting news. Yeah,
(01:08):
so these are to me, these are serious crimes that
they're no longer going to have bail for like somebody
steals my car, I want him hold up for a
while until he comes up with some bail money, not
even a dollar, not under this new bail schedule that
starts October first. Now I don't know what you're looking at,
but I received a letter from the Los Angeles County
(01:30):
Police Chiefs Association and this is their analysis of this
new law that takes and it's a county wide thing
that takes effect October first, and what this memo was
doing that went out to all the members and just
so you know, the membership is of every police department
in the County of Los Angeles. Every chief of every
department in La County is a member of this organization.
(01:53):
So you got to you got to think that there's
a lot of people that have to know what's going
on here with this new bail schedule, because this will
impact every member of law enforcement in the County of
Los Angeles. So this group of law enforcement agencies agree
or disagree with this, well, it's written in a very
interesting way. It's basically they have no say in it.
I mean, they can lobby and they can give their input,
(02:16):
but at the end of the day, it's lawmakers that
make the decision, and law enforcement just has to comply.
So you know, I'll jump to the last paragraph to
answer your question. This represents the significant change in protocols
for all law enforcement agencies in Los Angeles County. The
LA County Policechiefs Association remains committed to the safety and
security of our communities, will continue to work within the
(02:36):
procedures set forth by the Superior Court of Los Angeles County,
and is a profession make recommendations from improvement at every opportunity.
Oh you know, I'm so sick of the gobbledygook PC
woke Langridge. Why don't they tell the truth? Why don't
they say, hey, this is not going to make a difference,
everything's great, or this is the worst policy they could
have come up with. I mean, what does that mean?
That is just that is diarrhea, John simmer Down, So
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go back, no diarrhea. No, no, here, here's the thing,
you remember, this is going to the membership. Yeah, and
so the membership understands it's not going to the public.
So they understand. Internally, they all know what's going on.
But what they're having to do here is they have
to give tangible and they have to give realistic, you know,
examples of what this new law is going to be.
(03:21):
So that's what this is. More of an informational I know.
But the public needs somebody advocating for us, which and
maybe all law enforcement agencies would be the perfect partner,
which is why this ended up in my lap. Yeah,
you see what I mean because it sounds like surrender
that well, they can't surrender. I mean, these are people
(03:41):
making laws. They don't make the laws. Know, they don't
make the laws, but they can screen bloody murder when
they when the legislators make bad laws. This came from
a judge, did it not. Yeah, it was the you know,
Superior Court of Los Angeles actually approved a set But
with the blessing of the border supervisors, how does this work?
He's got total control overscrew it up the county or
(04:03):
can the supervisors overrule him it in? Well, superior court,
like you're presiding judge, they have say over how the
bail schedule works because the necessarily bail schedule as long
as they're following state statutes, they don't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Have to do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The legislature could do something about this, but of course
they won't because they're pro criminal. So let me tell
you what's going on here. Just I want to just
run this through before I run out of time. On here.
There are three types now, three possible actions by law
enforcement for an arrestees' release. There's a site and release,
a book and release, or a magistrate review. Capital offenses
(04:41):
like murder and special circumstances, and some felonies are not
eligible for the zero bail release for now, for now.
So let take for instance, this is the example that
they put in this memo as an example of this change.
A person arrested for false imprisonment under this new protocol
would be eligible for book and release. False imprisonment. Okay,
(05:02):
what what would be a false imprisonment crime?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
What would be the circumstances a false imprisonment would be
like like taking somebody hostag Yeah, yes, yeah, I like
taking somebody against their will and holding them in a
room or in a car or something and that. But
that's not kidnapping. No, there's different levels of kidnapping, right, false,
So false imprisonment is in the kidnapping family. Yeah, it's
a lighter. It's kidnapping live, kidnapping like kidnapping live. There's
(05:28):
no there's no bail for that. So under this so
some guy could grab me off the street, throw me
in the car, no bail. So a person arrested for
false imprisonment under this new protocol would be eligible for
book and release. Under the previous bail schedule, their bail
amount would be fifty thousand dollars. That sounds about right. Likewise,
a person arrested for theft of an automobile is eligible
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for book and release, while under the previous bail schedule,
their bail amount would have been thirty five thousand. Okay,
So I.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Like the next sentence here, Steve. In summary, most arrest
will not be held in custody, but instead reliefed immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So the guy can steal my car and he's not
going to spend a minute in jail. Yes, what does
he get? He gets a ride to the booking station
and then they let him go, right unless if it's
a book of release, that's an arrest. If it's a
sight and release, that's just a ticket. I ticket. I yeah,
So then it's so so it seems. I mean, I've
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seen what happened in New York City. New York City
they had a similar law and it was the same
guys stealing stuff all day. They were constantly getting booked
and released and booked and released. There's no content, And
they were getting caught half a dozen times a day.
Some guys had gotten caught hundreds of times. Yeah, well,
like the pandemic, remember during the pandemic. Well, who wants that? No, seriously,
(06:49):
what's the point of this. The Superior Court apparently wants it.
Who's in charge of the spirit court, Who's who's the
chief justice? What's wrong with him or her? Who are
these people? Nobody wants car auto thieves to get no bail?
Nobody does. Yeah, you remember gain during the pandemic. Remember
that revolving door and that that was that one guy
(07:10):
that had been back seven times for theft, for auto theft.
Remember that, and then finally the finally it went back
into it. Yes, yeah, it's a stupid policy because auto
theft John is a non serious, non violent To me,
it's a serious crime. My car is gone. Remember this
is all part of a reform package. The reform is
a crap word. That's another one of these euphemisms they
(07:32):
used to cover up their anarchy. It had been suggested
that uh uh, you know, this was a disproportionate slight
or blight if you will on people of color.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
This is what s because if they can't afford the bail,
it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Wealthier it can. If they steal the car, then they're guilty.
I don't care what their color is. They stole the car. Now,
in some cases, the suspects arrested for certain crimes with
potion increased risk to the public will be referred to
an on call magistrate. So let's say to say, somebody,
you know these certain crimes that increased risks. I don't know,
(08:09):
peeping tom or something like that. So they'll call an
on call magistrate. That person will have discretion to determine
the appropriate release terms and conditions. Now, some of those
examples of release by magistrate may include prohibitions against committing crimes,
sending text messages to remind the arrest you to appear
in court, and sending text messages are you serious? Show
(08:31):
me that? Show me that? Let me sending text messages,
sending right here less like mind you have a restaurant
reservation less where I just parenthesized there. Some examples of
release conditions include sending text messages to remind the restue
to appear in court. Well, and then what if he
(08:53):
doesn't respond to the text, but if he blocks the texts? Yeah,
who replies? And for no, that's right. What if they're
confirming an appointment in a barbershop? This is on some table.
I mean. So, here's my point in this is if
you read between the lines here, and I'm trying my best,
(09:14):
I'm trying to read between this organization is telling people
this is stupid. This is what this organization is doing.
Why don't they put out a release that says this
is stupid, because we're gonna send texts just so that
the car thief can remember to go to court. Police
chiefs are appointed. They're not elected. They don't have the
(09:35):
same kind of latitude that a sheriff does who's an
elected person. They don't have the same kind of voice.
They don't have to say to they just have to Yes,
I'll buy them a soap box and they can stand
on it their salary. When they get fired, they're gonna
get the people who would fire them ought to get fired,
the county supervisor, in the mail and city council. They're
the ones who ought to get fired. Well, I'll tell
(09:57):
crap I'll text you to remind this is a disaster.
So this is October first, right, it's the October first,
and this is a county wide thing. All hell breaks loose,
you know what. I think people should sell their homes
and move. This is ridiculous. Wait, so if a guy
breaks into your house and steals your I don't know
your your your computers, your music equipment right, your television?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What is that? Well? Is that a freeb two? As
a property crime? These new release terms, law enforcement must
cite and release or book and release arrestees and nearly
all theft offenses, no vehicle code violations, and crimes against
properties such as petty theft and vandalism, no offenses involving guns,
sexual battery, crimes against children with intent to commit sexual offense,
(10:44):
or examples of offensive subject to a magistrate review of
that on call magistrate. So if you think about this
other here, these smash and grabs, Yeah, all site and release, okay,
but the magistrate review. He's not compelled to give those criminals.
That's why it said discretion. Discretion. You press a button
on the wall, that little magistrate comes out. Hello, what
if he doesn't answer his phone? Well, then you text
(11:06):
him a reminder to show up. I might being to
call a lot. He might be in a motel room
with a hooker. I mean, we don't get that open
table app open. Oh my, So I thought you'd like this. Yeah, thanks,
we do. Thank you always pretty good stuff. And decided
this is pressing stuff. I want names. I want names.
Who who Who's show?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah it says Los Angeles County Superior Court. But I
saw there was a judge. I thought that was mostly
involved in this decision. Yeah, it's a it's it came
out in July because I am I judge.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I can.
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The microphone Icona called the Tephrey number one eight seven
seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven six, six,
four seven, eight eight six, So were you able to
obtain the name of this presiding Los Angeles County Superior
Court judge that is responsible for no bail in the
county coming October one?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It seems to be Samantha Jesner. Samantha, it's not the
name I remember, but maybe it is.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Well.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Up until the fall of twenty twenty two, it was
Eric C. Taylor. And yeah, depend on what website you're on,
you get different information. That's probably on purpose decision. So yeah,
as the story came out.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
In July, and because I just looked it up, and
but it didn't have a name, but it said in
July it was now going to be the effective October first,
to be a lot of no bail situations in Los
Angeles County in an order from the Los Angeles County
Superior Court. But I remember seeing this story back in July,
and I thought I saw a male judge's name attached
to it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But well, maybe this was written up by the previous guy.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Ray.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
We got to get a definite idea on who the
presiding judges and are they responsible for this or is
it some other committee or is it the county board
of supervisors. This is a atrocity. And and you know what,
these people at to be recalled. They're got to be
kicked out of office. So now a guy can break
into your house and steal whatever he wants and there's
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gonna be no bail.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, I mean, the joke is the revolving door. You know,
if they arrest him, they'll just decide him and send.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Him back out. That's not even a door. That's not
even a door. I don't know, a hinge a little.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's a turnstile. It's a turnstyle, yes, and they call
it turnstyle justice. It turnstyle and turnstyle right back out again.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
A right.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So we've been hearing more and more stories lately about
people fighting back. Of course, the famous one of the
seven eleven where the two clerks beat the shoplifting feet
with the sticky and it happened again at another store. This, though,
is probably my favorite from this round of people want
to do something about crime, and we have to go
to Napa County. Napa County, apparently a sixty one year
(14:17):
old man they not identified him, went outside his home
to check on a circuit breaker because the power went
out in his residence, which is you know, if you
watch any horror movie, very suspicious. Right, He's outside and
he sees some weird guy on his property, a thirty
three year old man by the name of Andrew Dixon.
According to police, the two had never met before, but
Dixon is standing there on the guy's property.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So maybe he's the one that cut the wires. I
don't know. So the sixty one year old confronted him,
what are you doing in my property?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He pulls out a knife and stabs the victim in
the back. They get into a fight, They wrestle. Here's
the best part. The sixty one year old man pulls
that knife out of his back and stabs this guy
right in the chest.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yes, that is one tough dude, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He reached around, pulled that knife out of his back
and stabbed the attacker right in a chest.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Didn't kill him, unfortunately. Oh that is the coolest thing
I've ever heard. That is that is the best.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I wish I knew this guy's name. Man, I'd like
to send him a gift, maybe his own knife.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Wow, how about that? Uh? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
The stabbing brought the perpetrator, Dixon to his knees, remained
subdued until the cops arrived.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Who both men know have been treated for lawn life,
that the injuries are both going to recover. Who sided? Yeah,
the police sided him and released Really well.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It says here he's been He's on jail suspicion of
attempted murder, elder abuse, and assault with a deadly weapon.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
No John in custody without bail and nappocant. Is that right? Well,
this was a physical, violent offense, so that's not stealing
a car. You have to end up with a knife
in your back before they put them in jail. Huh wow.
That's an old expression.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know, if life make lemonade, if you give you
a lemon, if somebody put the knife in your back,
you balled that knife out and stabled with in the chest.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
He's wrestling the guy and he's thinking, man, if I
just had a weapon, Wait, there's a knife in my back.
Let me do a reach around. That's pretty funny, right way.
Let me think Oh yeah, we shouldn't laugh. But this
guy did an incredibly brave thing. Yeah. I wouldn't have
thought to do that. I just would have died.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Oh you know, I'm looking at the story and I
see something kind of sad. An advertisement. You can go
to the Ace Hotel in Los Angeles on Friday and
see the last Monkey. Mickey Dolan's is appearing.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Look at that. Yeah, it says the monkey celebrated by
Mickey Dolans. Well, the other three died. I thought it
was honestly, you said that, I have some kind of
zoo exit. I call it the last Monkey. Yeah, the
last standing. It was the last of a species. Oh,
it's just sad because I think Mike Nestsmith just died
within the last year. Yeah, I believe did. Yeah, yeah,
(16:53):
so he's doing a Should you go to the Monkey's
concert when we did go with you?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I can't remember. I know Mickey Dolan's was there. Was
Davy Jones I think he was. Yes, three of them
I think were there. Yeah, Mike Nessmith was not right.
There was one work because they had they had an album.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I did.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I was there with you. Yeah, that's right, man. Album
they did. They had to hit that. They had a
hit record.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now they had made a comeback, so they were doing
the tour. I wasn't keeping track. I didn't know they
were almost all gone.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
You guys are going to sing a song. They'd be
really cute.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I am not going to sing a song. No, No,
John does not sing. I do not sing, And I
don't want to offend him because you're You're the only
one who asks me to. Nobody else does I know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
But I can like to sing.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
But I figured you went to the you like the monkeys.
I think it would be really cool to hear you guys.
Speaker 8 (17:40):
Do a little duet.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
My family doesn't even want to hear me sing Happy
Birthday to them. Oh you're back stop. Yes. I can't
recall ever hearing him sing either, like even in the car.
I learned early on this hour that wasn't a sound. No,
I don't sing in the shower. It's harmful. It bothers
the dog. All right, more coming up, Johnny. If I
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Speaker 8 (18:26):
Leader, garnering the nickname America's Governor.
Speaker 10 (18:29):
And a very very special thank you to our governor,
no other than Gavin Us because it.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Is this partnership with Joe Biden that makes us come
to reality. You spoke to National Guard troops today an
assuring speech that if I wasn't listening carefully, I thought
you were sending soldiers off to Lester. I'm gonna get
Jimmy Gomez in a second.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
A good Christians find out, Oh yeah, you it's time
for your tongue bass rub a dub dub stick.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
This was John Cobelt's idea this desk. I'm telling you
that nicely produced. There just my thing, h Director Eric Sclark.
You know it's weird. The tongue bather that we're gonna
highlight here is actually Newsome. He's not getting the tongue bath.
He's the tongue baither. He's giving the tongue back.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Usually he receives the tongues he does.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
A lot of other state officials like to look up
to Newsom and give them the tongue, and in this case,
Newsom is tongue bathing. Old Joe and Kamala Harris, Oh
oh oh, can you imagine? Oh you can see Biden
in the tub like a kitten and Newsom is applying
(19:46):
the tongue bath.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Is that your imagining? I'm gonna go home, is Harry body?
That's too much? Uh?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
He was on CNN with Dana Bash and will play
the first clip you could prepare yourself. Man, this is
of course everyone's asking the same thing. Biden's too old,
isn't he? And if you just ate lunch and let's
listen to this.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I know you are downplaying concerns about his age, but
do you believe that voters don't have any reason to
be concerned that he would be eighty six year years
old by the end of his.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Second Voters have every right to be concerned. But maybe
I'm a little I remember Bobby Kennedy said it best
said what the world needs are the qualities of youth,
not a time of life, but a state of mind,
a quality of imagination.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I mean this, I could imagine.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Three years ago that this president could accomplish so much
in such a short period of time. I mean that,
if this political season is all about a celebrity, with
all due respect, we had a celebrity for four years.
It didn't go well, and so I want a seasoned
pro and those are to get things done. I'm a
little old fashioned. I want a guy who produces results.
And the results are in. It's been a masterclass. There's
(20:58):
simply no administration in my life class. It's been more effective,
producing more substant results.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So let's stop and really appreciate that tongue bath for Biden. Wow,
a master class.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
No one's accomplished more in the first term of their
administration than this president.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Are you kidding me? He is a joke. I mean,
he is a clown. What is he hoping? Then? Maybe
for some kind of appointment? What Biden does continue on?
What does he want? I don't understand, but I mean
playing the party line so desperately. It's said that was
that was more than tongue there, Oh, the qualities of youth.
(21:35):
But that's what Biden has. I mean, I mean, there's
so many things that are disastrous, starting with the massive inflation.
Oh do you know what what gas was today?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
For me?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Do you know what gas was? Six dollars? Six dollars
and thirty cents? Now you know what I paid huge
amounts in the last few days. I paid in Florida
last week three dollars and forty cents. Now I come here,
it's six dollars. That's two dollars. And now you got
to drive to Florida and fill up and then come back.
I think it would work two dollars and ninety cents
a gallon difference. Two dollars and ninety cents. I got
(22:09):
a twenty gallon tank. That's fifty eight dollars per tank.
Fifty eight dollars difference.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
What if we wanted one of the gas guys on again?
And so he's just gonna tell us it's refine every problems.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's not my problems, No, it's it's it's most of
its taxes. Half of its taxes. I don't know what
the other half is. Yeah, but those taxes are always there.
This run up is from more than we or he's
got those taxes. And this this, this, this empty headed
gooten do some. He's gonna conduct an investigation into, uh,
(22:42):
what price gouging? How come nobody the oils are how
come the oil companies don't gouge anybody in Florida? They
only godge people here? Do you know it's eighty cents
higher than Hawaii. They gotta they got a drag tankfuls
of gasoline three thousand miles across the ocean, and it's
eighty cents cheaper in hole. How could that be?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
The last time I checked, the state of Washington passed us.
But I don't know if that to tell them we're
number one. I checked yesterday. We are number one. All right, Well,
here is the other person that gets a tongue bath
from Gavin Newsom in the CEA in an interview, and
it's none other than the Vice President.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
You and Vice President Kamala Harris go way back. You
say that you came up together in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
New York when we were in politics, before you were
in politics.
Speaker 10 (23:24):
I'm sure you saw that former Speaker Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,
she heaped praise on Kamala Harris, but she declined to
say whether or not she thought that the vice president
is the best person to be on the ticket with
Joe Biden in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Do you, of course she is Biden Harris administration masterclass in.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Terms of she loves this new word after class.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Was he taught by definition, if I think this administration
last two and year two and a half years been
one of the most outstanding administrations past few decades, and
she's a member of that administration, she gets to lay
and claimed credit to a lot of that success.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Answer is absolutely what impresses him the massive inflation rate
of the last three years. No idea. How about like
the you know, the millions and millions of illegal aliens
that are now clogging up all the major cities. I
don't know, the crime wave of going across the country,
like what what?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
What?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
The master class in what? I don't know. It's just
just a genius term that he loves. And she reached
out and he found and he used it in both
clearly played right. Did somebody did somebody does learn new
gobbledygook terms?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
He well, again, he's full of tech jargon, and this
is just one that was rattled around in his head
while he was doing this interview.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But Dana Bash, the potted plant, just sat there and
she couldn't think of anything to say. She say, master moron,
what what? What all you have to ask is, well,
what about the massive inflation that has cut about eighteen
percent into people budgets? Because of the massive spending under
Biden masterclass. I don't I don't understand. She sits there
(25:08):
like she's got a little bottomy. That's amazing, world. We
got more coming up town Ken, KFI sixty live everywhere.
I heard radio app it's exit bag time, Debor do
you have my exit bagh?
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Yeah, let me go get it.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I gave it to you. Are you ready? Are you sure?
I am ready? I'll be uh, I won't be back.
Deborah Mark as the news.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
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Speaker 1 (25:39):
We're on the radio from one until four, and then
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Speaker 3 (25:52):
So I did a little digging the last hour into
Deborah Mark's mink story.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Do this comes from John?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Not far from where we get our careers in radio
in Pennsylvania. I'm looking at the member ceilings, Grove Ceilands
grow up, Pennsylvania peters grow theeter ceilings Grove Ceilands, Grove
sclis vaguely familiar. There's lock Haven here. I remember lock Haven, Williamsport.
Of course, I used to go down there because that
was the closest place to find a mall when we
(26:19):
were stuck in Canton, Pennsylvania, or to go to.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Elmira, where it was like forty miles.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It was still like forty miles to go, but I
was dying to see like a real movie, so I
would drive down there, drive down there every now and then.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
This is the story that Deborah Mark did that.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Apparently in a place called Rockefeller Township, Northumberland County, Pennsylvania,
somebody cut holes in a fence and released thousands of minks. Yeah,
that's a fur farm near Sunbury, Pennsylvania. Wherefore Deborah has
become pro criminal. I have the mak oh, watch what
you hope for Deborah Mark, because there's two problems. By
(26:53):
the way, they think it's six thousand to eight thousand
nincks got.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Out of it. It is a lot.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
But let's hope that maybe they get corraled into a
farm where they are not going to be used for
somebody's fur coat.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, we're going to do that.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
The last time this happened in Ohio, a bunch of
them were killed in a highway. I guess they tried
to cross a busy road and that was the end.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Of the mank.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
You know what, I'd almost rather than get hit by
a car.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Then be turned into somebody. All right, wait wait wait, wait, wait,
wait wait wait? What comes there on? You was calling
a time out from the bench. You'd rather an animal die?
Speaker 8 (27:29):
I didn't say I wanted an animal.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
You would rather an animal die then an animal be
used for a good and service and be transformed into
a coat that could keep someone warm.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Let me explain the way that they would be killed
to be used as fur is far worse than being
hit by a car.
Speaker 8 (27:56):
So that's what I'll get on.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
A car running over a mink is yeah, you're hit away.
Do you have the sound of a mink getting squashed
by a car? Is that referoire?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, it's Several minks were seen dead along the roadway
near the fur farm. The other problem, Debora Mark, is
apparently they will go and they will eat people's animals.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Yeah, I know that is very sad, and I would
be to keep their.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Small cats and stuff inside them because the mink will
come and grab them.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The minks sound like criminals.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Well, apparently the mink are very dangerous, then don't approach
long because they very hostile and they will be a
danger to pets.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Okay, but they don't deserve to be turned into somebody's
fur coat.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
I stand by what I say.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
Take them away where they're not going to be buy
my dogs or your cats, right, but don't turn.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Them into fur you'd rather be roadkill. Yes, do not
go out of your way to catch them or trap them.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
According to the Pennsylvania Game Commission, they can bite or attack,
and they possibly have diseases.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh of course, So let's say they're hostile, they eat
your pets, they're filled with disease.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Yeah, because they're all they're smushed, I'm sure problem this farm,
and then they're catching everything that the other mink.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So they deserve just to get squished by a truck
on the interstate.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
No, I'm saying, they're trying to survive in the wild, right,
So if they get hit by a car, not that
I want them to, but it's better than God knows
how they're going to be euthanized.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
They're kind of ugly little animals though, Okay, so.
Speaker 9 (29:21):
Because they're ugly, they deserve to be They they look
like just furry rats to me, what did you picture this?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Like the far side, the person's cutting the hole, all
the mix of going, yeah, we're getting out of here,
no break, and then there comes the truck.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, now where do we go?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah? Whose idea was this? They're going to go this way?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Squash, But they're going to die either way, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But I go with Eric's point. At least it's going
to keep people. They died for a good call, that
was the first.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Yeah, they have a chance of survival.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
That's really what I'm getting at by being free, so
hoefully they don't get hit by a car.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
They know, look bright enough to cross the road. They
got a chance of being a hawk's dinner. Oh yeah,
that's right, that was They just pick him right out
as all right.
Speaker 9 (30:10):
Well, I still think that's better than what they're gonna
suffer in a fur farm.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All right.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Coming up next, we're gonna talk once again about the
shooting of the sheriff's deputy over the weekend in Palm Tailers.
Some information certainly concerning the fact that this apparent man
with paranoid schizophrenia who has now confessed to the murders.
I had a gun, and we now understand the gun
was legally purchased. How does that happen since he's been
mentally ill for years according to his family members. We've
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