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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Caf I Am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What is it.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Let's know what you missed?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Very nice.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Sorry, next hour we will bring back the moistline people
to the John and Ken Show after a two week absence,
and after ah maybe three or four weeks, we will
throw a hack into the dumpster in the three o'clock hour,
So stand by.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
For all that. There's a lot we got to get
to this hour.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
We're going to talk about the update on those Las
Vegas teenagers who ran down the bicyclist who turned out
to be a retired chief of police from the city
of bell California. He retired to Las Vegas and he
was killed by a couple of giggling teenagers, one behind
the wheel of a car. They actually took video of
them running this poor man down and killing him. And

(00:52):
there's an update on the story you need to hear
coming up the next segment. But we begin with another
excellent report from the at NBC four and it's about
the poor restaurant business. And the problem sort of with
the restaurant business when it comes to being robbed is
that they do probably still accept a lot of cash

(01:13):
and keep it at the restaurant that they can put
it in the bank. Here's Joel Grover and the team
at NBC four.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
You don't hear much about this, but thieves have been
targeting restaurants all across the city, putting employees and sometimes
you the customers in danger. Restaurant owners tell me the
city is doing little or nothing to stop them. At
three twenty three on a Saturday morning, two cars roll
into a restaurant parking lot and outcome a group of

(01:42):
masked men with crowbars in hand. They try breaking down
the door of Jar restaurant on Beverly Boulevard.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
It takes only a minute and they bust in.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
They run through the restaurant and find the safe and
try to break it open.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
This is disgusting, Suzanne Tract.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Jar owner is one of America's most accomplished and well
known chefs.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
They just come in, they smash open your cabinet. They
don't care.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
They have no regard for anything anything that you work for.

Speaker 7 (02:11):
I work hard.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Lately, thieves are smashing their way into restaurants across the
LA area, like Home State in Sherman Oaks, which has
had seven burglaries in seven months, like this one where
a thief used a hammer to break open the safe
at Marmalade Cafe in Calabasas. Thieves shattered a glass door
last April then drag the safe right out of the restaurant.

(02:34):
They tried to do the same thing at Marmalade's Sherman
Oaks branch three weeks later.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
All the wires yet, but there's no video of it.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
They got all these wires, of you.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Because the crooks first disabled the sixteen security cameras before
trying to saw into the safe.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
They actually tried to slice the safe open.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Three of the seven branches of Marmalade Cafe have been
burglarized this year. I think this has been a deterioration
in the feeling of safety in our city. The ITEAM
crunched the crime data and found that burglaries at restaurants
are way up one hundred and three percent from twenty
nineteen to twenty twenty three, like that break in a

(03:14):
jar last month where the thieves pulled the safe out
of the wall and carried it away with two thousand
dollars inside. That was all in a night when at
least two other nearby restaurants told me they were also burglarized.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's scary. This needs to stop right away.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Most of the crooks are targeting restaurants in the middle
of the night. But that wasn't the case last year.
At the legendary Casavega in Sherman Oaks, opened in nineteen
fifty six by Raphael Vega, whose daughter Christy now runs.

Speaker 8 (03:44):
It, the city is looking the other way and pretending
it's not happening, she says.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Cosavega has been hit by thieves ten times in the
last three years. Several times when customers were inside eating.
Thieves were breaking into your customer's cars during the day at.

Speaker 8 (04:00):
Seven pm, with ballet Parker's running after them.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Christy now pays for this armed guard during business hours
and says she spent half a million dollars to beef
up security, like a high fence around her patio and
steel gates securing her.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Office by by the stakes pack back at Jarn Beverly Boulevard.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
The owner now arms her employees with pepper spray in
case they spot someone suspicious while leaving work.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
I've taken this out several times and they see it
and they run.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
What is LAPD doing about the rise in restaurant burglaries?
LAPD Commander Giselle Espinoza speaking to the I Team, she
says police are now sharing information about these break ins
to all their divisions across the city, but no dedicated
task force has been set up to tackle the huge
rise in restaurant burglaries. One hundred and three percent increase.

(04:52):
Does that increase in numbers concern you?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Absolutely? She believes more.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Cops are needed and prosecutions need to be when these
crooks are caught.

Speaker 9 (05:02):
When they go through the judicial process and they are
prosecuted and sentenced. I believe that people should serve their
minimum sentencing.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
But for now, restaurants are putting up steel gates.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
At the turn for anyone entering the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Space and taking matters into their own hands.

Speaker 7 (05:20):
It's bad.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
It's so bad it makes me not want to be
in the city.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's from NBC four his I Team, and Joel Grover
is the reporter.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
We're screwed. We've got a do nothing there. Karen Bass
is completely inept, overmatched, lazy, not interested. How could this
be all that happens on October first? With the new
no bail stuff? How does this interest this? There's gonna
be no bail for these criminals.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
We spent a lot of time on the car thieves,
but what about people that smash into restaurants and try
to steal safe? I guess so again it's not considered violent.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So Michael Moore, the do nothing police chief, when he
gets the memo on his desk that restaurant break ins
are up one hundred percent, what does he do?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Take an app and usually they assigned a task force.
They didn't even do that. No, no, we didn't even
get the task force.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
So so Karen Bass does nothing, doesn't care the business
owners have to spend on a godly amount of money,
but putting up, putting up iron gates. And if if
you saw the video and it's online at NBC four
l A. I think that's the name of the it
is website, you have to see these these these goons
come in and they are all the stupid hoodies on right,

(06:33):
you can't tell who it is. I'm glad we have
all these video cameras, you can't tell at all who
these people are. And they have this equipment that sparks
as they try to right, and they got these these
big weapons and they're banging away and banging away, smashing
until they get something to lose, something, something opens up
and then uh, and then of course we got Gascone

(06:54):
who has completely destroyed the county because none of these
people get prosecuted and they know they're not going to
get protect so just keep doing this every day.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
A bachelor heard the police officer in the story there.
She said that the problem is they go through the
judicial process and they don't even serve the minimum right.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
We're not seeing it. So so everybody's got to live
like catch and release.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So everybody's got to live like this where you've got
a restaurant and you know of a group of thugs
whearing their stupid hoodies are gonna raid the place.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
And now a lot of restaurants are not accepting cash
because you know, if you break into a restaurant and
you find a few thousand dollars, you're gonna come back
because you know that they keep cash in there. So
these restaurants are just gonna have to change their method
of doing business, and you're gonna be out of luck.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I mean that doesn't encompass a lot of.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
People, but a lot of people still use cash to
buy food at restaurants.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Who wants to live like this? Why is Karen Bass
creating this situation where we have to live like this?
We can't even go out to dinner? Why does Michael
Moore not care?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Cars being broken into a loveda with valets are chasing
after them. You're gonna turn to San Francisco or that's right?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And all people are supposed to fight this, right, you know,
assistant managers, valets, waiters, what they're all supposed to track
these these bastards down? Damn and guess go Gascone doesn't care?
Does he laugh at night when he watches it? Like
when I assume these people watch the news. Maybe they
don't watch the news because they don't care. But when

(08:20):
Bass is on her sofa, sitting on her on our
big round one looking looking at the Channel four, the
investigative piece of the week, what's her reaction?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Does she care? Does she say wow, that's awful? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
And ape they solve that problem. Same thing with Michael Moore.
It's like, wow, it's up one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I know that, right, did you hear that?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And does guess gone laugh at all this because he's
here for the destruction. That's his big laugh. He gets
to single handedly destroy the city. Yeah, and everybody's comfort.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
No consequences, no punishment. We don't want to put anybody
in jail. So what if they steal stuff? Nobody's gonna
want to live here. No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
My place got robbed like six times in this year.
I'd probably be folding up.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I've been to those Marmalades before we've been dead. My
wife and I've been to several of them.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, well, you're good restaurants for the ladies. Yes, it
is a ladies restaurant.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's a lot of salads and stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yes, the restaurant again, of course. Yeah, No, Alma laid
every time we've gone to Marmalade has not been my suggestion.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yeah, I was thinking when you said that, like you're
kidding me.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
All right, well we now know their names.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
The teenagers that ran down the former Bell police chief
in Las Vegas. They killed Andreas Andy prop'st age sixty four.
He was out riding his bicycle. They made a video
of it. They were riding along and they had already
hit another car and they just thought this was fun.
Joaday riding around has stolen Hyundai a Lantra. This is
back on August fourteenth. So their names we now know

(09:57):
are heyesus Ayala, who was the driver who just turned eighteen,
and his friend was Zamir Keys, age sixteen. They made
a court appearance yesterday. We have a bit of a
stunning update from Las Vegas television station because the older teenager,
Heyesu Sayala, basically told the cops when they took him

(10:19):
to the jail, I won't.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Be in here long.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
It's just a little hit and run. Let's play the
story from Las Vegas News eight and I've learned.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
Hey sus Ayala, the accused driver, appeared to show no
remorse when he was taken into custody, even referring to
the hit and run and telling an officer he'll get
a slap on the wrist since he's in the juvenile system.
As we've reported, he has a lengthy criminal history there,
but he's not in the juvenile system anymore. Jusa Heyesusayala

(10:50):
appearing in adult court for the first time Thursday, facing
eighteen charges, including murder.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Court does sign probable cause for your arrest in this case.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
His co defendant Jimmy Keys, facing three charges, also including murder.
The teens are accused of killing retired police chief Andy Propst,
intentionally hitting him as he rode his bicycle in a
designated bike lank Ayala, the accused driver, Keys the accused
passenger who recorded this video. Metro Police say this was

(11:22):
the third hit and run during their crime spree on
August fourteenth. They're accused of hitting another cyclist earlier that morning,
a seventy two year old man who survived the eight
who's now investigators confirming all three hit and runs.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Are on video.

Speaker 9 (11:39):
Police say the teens also stole four cars that day.
Ayala seventeen at the time, now eighteen, Keys sixteen years old.
Do you believe these teens should remain in custody and
what do you think is an appropriate bail amount for
each of them?

Speaker 8 (11:53):
Termination of whether somebody should remain in custody is based
upon whether they're a flight risk or day to the community. Okay,
I believe they're potentially both. They have certainly proved that
they are dangerous.

Speaker 9 (12:07):
Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson also explaining how his
office will work to prosecute both teens for murder well under.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
Law in Nevada and most any other place. If you
aid and a bet, encouraged, facilitate, or help in any
way another person to commit a crime, you're equally guilty.

Speaker 9 (12:26):
We've been digging for more details and just learned more
about the video investigators say they found on Ayala's cell phone,
a similar scene showing the teens laughing as the engine
accelerated to hit the first cyclist who survived. We've learned
one of them is heard saying bump him a few times.

(12:48):
The teens are expected back in court on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
We'll be there.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
They're homicidal maniacs. They should be put away forever.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
This story unfolded on August fourteenth when they hit the
former Bell police chief, but they didn't find the video
until more recently. I guess it's circulated at school and
a school cop talk it to the cops. Attention, let's
hone in on this.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
These two murderous. They should they should be executed. These two.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
They take out their video video camera so they can
record themselves intentionally running down cyclists.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Right after they stole the car. Then make the right
even more fun like a video game. And then they're
gonna they're gonna send the video to their friends. Are
they gonna post the video?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
And the teens are laughing.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
And when they came up behind probes, one of them said,
hit his ass, and they did, and they killed them
and he was tossed over the hood of the vehicle
and then they left him to die and he died.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
And here's the quote.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
We're getting the now eighteen year old Ayala said to
one of his jailers, you think this juvenile bleep is
gonna do some bleep, I'll be out in thirty days.
I'll bet you it's just a bleep hit and run,
slap on the wrist.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
But now they've been hit with eighteen charges, including murder
attempted murder. Grand Larci, you were heard that story. They
also had a seventy two year old bicycles who survived,
but that was another attempt to kill somebody.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Did he know that the guy he had died did
he think he was going to get a slap on
the wrist thirty days for murder?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
I don't know when they arrested him, and he said
that if he knew the guy was dead.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right, this is what they think. We've been going through
this like every day. They all think it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
This is the Vata, which is thought a little better
than California, but maybe not.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
But it's in the air every you know, this is
how the criminals think, no consequence, it's right, So it
is in the air. I can kill somebody. It's like
a video game.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
You slam your car, you slam your stolen car, some
older guy on a bike, wipe him out, leave him
for dead.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Laugh, record it, show your friends. Hey, that's the reality.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
You have all these dope politicians who think they're setting
the criminal justice system right. But you know, the killers,
the people committing the crimes, laugh at this.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
They think it's great. What's going this way?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Hey, in la this is the world that George Gascone
and Michael Moore and Karen Bass has given us. Is
the you can see this happening here probably well now.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
The same story.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes, I'm not biking, biking in the street, and those
stupid bike lanes. This is gonna be the new thing
that catches on videotape it then post it.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
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Speaker 1 (15:40):
You can listen to what you missed. Well, we're fully loaded.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Next hour, we're gonna, of course, bring the Moistline people back,
and we're gonna throw a hack in a dumpster. And
this time it'll be a little unique because it is
something that John Cobelt has not heard. So John Cobelt
will listen to the audio of this person and decide
exactly when the mob comes to throw them into the dumpster.
Will it be ten seconds, in a minute, in two minutes?

(16:04):
In I didn't you know what. We'll talk more about
it next hour.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
But this guy completely slipped by by radar and now
he's got two major.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
And he's in your backyard. Yes, he's in your backyard.
There's another clues anyway, very close right now. I'd played
this audio well, John was on vacation and I couldn't
believe it. I said, We've got to save this because
this person has to go in the dumpster. And I
said to myself, I wonder how long into it John
will want to just open the trap door.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
And God, this guy is a weirdo. And you haven't
heard this audio though, no I haven't.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I is a winner.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
This guy makes Newsome look mild. This guy is so
smug and arrogant. But it's all in his voice as
he delivered, say what you're going to hear.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
How come the people who believe in this nonsense are
also smug and arrogant. It really is cult like it's
they almost have like a religious superiority about them. Very
strange phenomenon. All right, so you'll hear this unfold in
one hour we do hacking a dumpster. Now here's a
story that there's really nobody to root for. We have

(17:10):
the insurance companies who have been pulling back in the
home insurance market. We have the insurance Commissioner, Ricardo cal
fart Lara, and we.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Have the homeowners that want to build and rebuild their
homes in the fire zones.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Who are your root for? Anybody's hand go up here?
Who are your root for? There's nobody to root for
this is this is a collision of idiots.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Well, so the big announcement was made yesterday that encourages
the insurance company to come back and provide coverage in
what they call the high risk fire zones in the
hills and the canyons of California. As you know, a
lot of them said, we're not writing any new policies.
We may honor the ones already in effect, but this
is costing us too much money. And they claim the

(17:51):
problem is under the state's regulations, they can't really get
much of rate increases through.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
So that's what cal.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Fart Lara brokered here a deal where they will come
back and start to cover more of the homeowners and
the fire zones in exchange for getting higher.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Rate increases through the state regulations. Because apparently it's quite
a process. And of course the voters passed this years
ago with a proposition measure. Well, basically the insurance companies
had to go on strike. They had to say, fine,
if you're.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Not that allow you're going to play this, then we're
not going to bother being right. It's so like the
oil companies are doing too well, we're going to set
the refineries.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Then if that's what you're going to do.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
The state allows PG and E to let its infrastructure
go into such major disrepair that you have power lines
falling all the time during the Santa Ana wins during
fire season and starting huge fires that cost the insurance
companies billions of dollars. Well, if that's what the state's
going to do, because PGE bribes you know, Newsome and

(18:47):
his wife with more money than these insurance companies do.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Hey, you know that's the game. We don't have to play.
We don't have to play.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
This is a state farm all state USAA. They wanted
rate increases ranging from twenty eight to forty percent, because
you can't make money in California.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
The losses in these fire zones they're too heavy. I mean,
look at what happened in the city of Paradise alone
as an example, completely destroyed. Imagine if you are the
insurer there in all those homes you had to cover
the costs of They're saying, look, if you want us
to provide this coverage, we have to have rates that
are commensurate with the risk. And you know under the
regulations you can't get it done. That's what they've been

(19:27):
complaining about So John's right, they just decided, all right,
then we will write new policies.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I just have to live with what we have. Insurance
company is not a constitutional entitlement. No company has to
be out, you know, potentially millions of dollars because you
build your house in a fire zone. That's your problem,
that's your responsibility.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
The state has something they call fair California's Fair Plan,
So if you can't get a private insurance company to
give you a property insurance, you can sign.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Up for this, but apparently has very high rate coverage.
Y because the math works the same way for the
state government.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, if you're rejected by the private insurance company's chances
are they didn't want to take on your risk. So
if you go into the state pool, well they're going
to have to charge high rates to cover you too.
I can't subsidize that.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
So the way it works, if you're in a danger zone,
you're gonna pay a lot more. They give an example,
a cabin in the woods. You might get a two
hundred percent rate increase. And before you start squawking, it's like,
why do you have a cabin in the woods, What
do you think they're gonna charge you.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Of course they're gonna charge.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
You a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
So I looked up an older article because mentioned in
this also going to do time story about this new
deal that Ricardo Lara brokeer in between the insurance companies
and the state. It mentions that he has ethics problems,
and an article in the chronicle from last year they
did not endorse him to be insurance commissioner because well,

(20:56):
here it is. After promising to forego insurance industry campaign contributions,
Lara accepted an excess of two hundred and seventy thousand
dollars from fifty six different people with ties to the
industry around the time of the last election in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Liar Lara his office.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Then directly intervened at least twice to overrule the department's
administrative law judges to the advantage of businesses with.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Ties to campaign donors. Then we go.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
So in twenty nineteen he earned more than one hundred
and seventy four grand an annual salary, but he stuck
taxpayers with the bill to an apartment he rented in Sacramento.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay, so he's a cruk.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Basically, the guy's always looking right guy for the guys
and Krook. Yeah, and he's really stupid. He you know,
he believed that there'd be a cal fart capture technology
that you get attached to cows and that was going
to stop global warming.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I mean, he's a he's a looney too.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
He's a state legislator who thought he was going on
to bigger things. And all he's gotteness this insurance commissioner job,
which he's now held for a couple of terms.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
And he has no credibility, nobody trusts him, but hey
keep voting for him. The voting patterns in this state
are psychotic, absolutely psychotic.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
It's stunning who people vote for.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah, but the.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Current investigation is by the Fair Political Practices Commission and
that's usually soft tough. But they think that he's been
figuring out a way to funnel insurance industry contributions into
his reelection campaign using third parties. That's another trick that
the politicians use to try to wonder.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
The money into the campaign. Because he's he's a dishonest fool.
He is. He says he's just liar Lara, right. It
says here he doesn't seem to know. And by the way,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
I don't even know how much Lara knew about the
whole insurance industry. It's just these are just a landing
spot for politicians. Didn't really wanted bigger and better things
like governor. No, he didn't know anything. He was the
cawfart guy. I was shocked when he actually won the
insurance commissioner. It's like the cal fart guys the insurance commissioner.
It's like, Wow, nobody reads, nobody reads, nobody pays attention.

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Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Then we're on our way to the three o'clock hour
on a Friday. It will be the first time in
a couple of weeks that we'll have the moistline. People
pay a visit that will pop up at three twenty
and again near the end of the show at three
point fifty. In between, we have reassembled many mob members
from all over the world, all right, they're mostly from
Eastern Europe to help us throw a hack into the dumpster.
Because if you don't remember the hack and a dumpster.

(23:32):
Originated with the Ukrainians throwing a politician who was too
Russian favorable into the dumpster, and wasn't that an omen
for what was to come? Right now we have the
invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean this was ten years ago I think that
this happened and we couldn't believe it.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
We saw the video and we said, all right, that's
what we have to start doing, throwing hacks into a dumpster.
And we started with the Ukrainian mob members, but it
has grown for quite intronactional crowd of mob members that
come and help us throw a hack into the dumpster.
It's a brand new face one that John just mentioned
should have been on our radar because they're in our backyard.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
So and a real weirdough too.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
When you hear this audio, you'll agree, front of the
line into the dumpster for this person.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
So that comes up after the news at three thirty.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Right now, we're going to talk about apparently a growing
trend of lawsuits more and more, and a lot of
them are class action, which means, you know, lawyers get
a pretty good cut. They're against food companies for misleading advertising.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
You know, all the years.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
You've seen the commercials on TV and the burger looks
huge and everything looks delicious, and then you go to
the restaurant, it's like, are you kidding me? Well, there
are some people that are taking this to the next level,
and they're filing class action lawsuits against food and beverage companies.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
The numbers have jumped just in the last few years.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
In August, a federal judge in Florida refused to dismiss
a class action lawsuit that claims Burger King's ads overstate
the amount of meat in the whopper and the other sandwiches.
Now do the commercials do they actually gave you a
weight of the meeting I was talking about people looked
at the picture, looked at the commercial and said, well,

(25:15):
when I go there, it's this little shrinked up thing
that they give me on a small bun.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Unless they're saying, hey, you get a you got a
six ounce patty, I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I don't know what the fraud is.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I mean because camera angles can always be deceptive, and
that six ounces before being.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Cooked or after it's right, you lose the shrinkage.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, So I don't. I don't I don't understand. See,
this looks like a law firm making stuff up. And
then they asked their you know, one of the law
partner's brother in law is to be the test case. Well,
I don't think any person at home can tell how
big the patty is and then match it to what

(25:57):
they see when they go to the burger king.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Nope, but he's done that. This This is a lawyer
cooked up this idea. But haven't you seen the tv ad?

Speaker 4 (26:05):
And it's this big, fat, beautiful meaty burger with delicious
lettuce and tomato hanging out?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And then you go to the.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Place, You're like, what the hell? All of them? I
don't believe tv ads. I just don't believe them. I mean,
you know, at some point, what are you eight years old?

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
A tv ad misled you?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Really, it's like a politician who says he's going to
solve all the problems. Yeah, you're probably still more traffic,
kalo bit traffic for it?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Are you still into the easter buddy too? I mean,
what's what's wrong with you? Now? But how many people
have run into this?

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Although most of these lawsuits got dismissed, you get the
bag of chips and you're looking at it and it's like,
holy crap, it's mostly air.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Yes, right, all the time. Every bag of chips that
I have, every single time.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
You eat you Those were some of the first false
advertising claims against NAT chip makers.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, what do you get, like off a cotto chips?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Pop chips?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
What are pop chips?

Speaker 6 (26:54):
They are not?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, they're like baked. You're bad. You probably eat kale.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Chips I have, but my favorite are the pop chips.
In fact, my husband has to hide them from me
because I can't. Just seriously, I'm it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's your addiction.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Well, that and among other things, pop chips. I love
pop chips.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I had one kale chip. You did, oh wow.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
One kale chip. My wife we were walking past the
grocery store. My wife say, can you go inside and
get me a bag of kale chips? And I said,
why do I have to do that? Embarrass myself? People
are gonna be looking at me like, who's the goon
buying kale chips? All right, So I bought the kale chips.
I gave her one. She goes, oh, that's disgusting. She
spit it out. So I said I'll let me try
and I bit into It's like, WHOA, that's disgusting.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
I can't believe you even tried it.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, I went back and I told the clerk, I said,
these are disgusting.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
I want my money back.

Speaker 6 (27:47):
Did you get your money back?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I got the money back because they were disgusting.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
So there've been lawsuits over the snack chip makers not
completely filling the bags. Most of those got dismissed, but
they kind of started this. There's been hundreds of lawsuits
since twenty nineteen. People are claiming this is a good one.
They're being misled by vanilla flavored products. They don't actually
contain pure vanilla or vanilla beans.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well, yeah, they're pready to.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Take that to a lab and have it analyzed artificial flavoring,
and usually that is in the ingredient list, which is
you know, extremely tiny and you know it's like the
seventeenth ingredient on the list.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Here's the thing with the that one worked.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Doctor Pepper and A and W paid fifteen million dollars
to settle claim some customers who said made with age
vanilla was not real synthetic flavoring.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
That yeah, that's just that's just lawyers raping these companies.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
They I'm there's nobody actually upset that there isn't real vanilla.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
I would be upset if I wanted to buy something
that had real, natural vanilla and it didn't say that
it was artificial or something that that smells and tastes
like vanilla, I'd be upset.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Now would I go?

Speaker 5 (28:57):
So?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Probably not, I'd be upset.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
I'd be very disappointed.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
You could sign onto a class action losses.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
It's gotta bet a dollar a wild ride going shopping
with you.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
She's upset about the fake vanilla in the way.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Because if I'm buying something that says that it's real,
then I expected to be real now.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
In the Burger King case, the claim is that advertisements
and photos on the store of menu boards show burgers
that are about thirty five percent larger with double the
meat than the burgers people purchased.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
And John's right. You have to be an eight year
old to know that the picture is supposed to entice you,
but it's not real.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Well someth they always say that they have a little
disclaimer underneath, not actual size.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
It's stupid.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
So Burger King has a billboard over a freeway and
there's a gigantic burger.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
No, it's a menu board in the store. It wouldn't
be a jo.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's the same thing that you don't have to present
the actual proportion.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
But don't you wouldn't that be the way.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
I'm just put a.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Little disclaimer underneath. And sometimes they do. You know, you
know about the potato chip bag scam. See, they are
with the air people are very sensitive to because people
are stupid on this too, they're sensitive to price changes.
So let's say a bag of potato chips. I don't
even know what they cost. What do they cost? Like fifty? Okay,

(30:15):
so let's say they're two fifty. You don't want to
raise them to three dollars. So instead of putting ten
ounces of potato chips, you put eight ounces of potato chips.
She keep the price the same way because people will
be sensitive to the price, but they will not generally
be sensitive to fewer ounces of potato chips. And so
you have more and more air in the bag. And

(30:36):
that that's the scam they pull.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
All right, we got more coming up.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
We are approaching the three o'clock hour and it's Friday,
So what's going to happen is we're returning with the
Moistline people at three twenty and near the end of
the show, and we are returning with mob members to
throw a hack into the dumpster. Some of that just
came up on our radar in the last couple of weeks,
and the audio that goes with this is unbelievable. John
Cobet will decid when the mob lifts this person up

(31:02):
and hurls them into the dumpster. It could be ten
seconds in, it could be a minute in.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't know. I may want to hear the whole thing. Yeah,
I don't think you're going to get to the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
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