April 27, 2023 • 47 mins
David Arquette is a self-admitted introvert… but it’s no shocker Bethenny got him to open up! He shares what was behind some of the more bizarre choices in his life (one that almost led to death in Tijuana!), what he wants to revive from the past and details on his relationship with Courteney Cox.
Plus, he’s a great investor…and they share some business insight you can’t afford to miss!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
David Arquette is an actor and if you didn't know,
he was a former professional wrestler too. He is best
known for his role as Dewey Riley and the slasher
film franchise Scream, as well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
Never Been Kissed and more. You can also catch him
in Missus Davis streaming on Peacock. This is just be
(00:32):
with David Arquette. What are you running around? What's so
important that you're doing? I'm powdering my face? What's all?
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Nothing? I just have a show coming out, just doing
this and I went golfing for a little earlier.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So you are in LA.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh right, you moved to Nashville. And what was what
precipitated that move?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I have two kids with my wife, Christina, and she
wanted to raise the boys outside of a big city
like LA. She's from Arkansas. So my daughter still she's
eighteen now she lives in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But and that was a big thing. I think a
lot of people did that to Nashville in particular during
the and Texas from LA during pandemic.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah. Yeah, it's been interesting, you know, I grew up
in La so it's been a bit hard for me.
But you know, it's a calmer life here and too sweet.
We've got a nice little community.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So I have had so many people on here and
you're reading about you was honestly, if the most interesting,
if not one of the most. I mean it was
really There was so many things I read about you
that I would never have known. And you're my era,
you're my generation, like you're someone I read about in
(02:02):
you know, the magazines and tabloids and senior movies. So
I was shocked that there were all these things I
didn't know about you that were surprising, like many multi layered,
I think, yeah, really interesting, really interesting. So reading that
the only thing that was not a surprise was reading
that you're an introvert. That was that comes across in
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your persona.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I have a really hard it's getting more. I'm
getting more comfortable in social situations. But it's a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's a roller coaster, and sometimes I don't think being
an introvert is something that people really think and understand
is real. And I meet people, I know some people
that have been living a life as an extrovert, uncomfortably,
but they actually are an introvert. And I think as
you get older and into your fifties, you start to
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think about that because just because you have a personality
doesn't mean you want to interact, you know, like reading
about you. Like I don't like to transact. I don't
like a lot of like talking to someone and like
can I get your room key? And how you having
your day, and like interacting a lot, Like I get
anxiety from transacting. So, and I was just talking to
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someone who said that she has been living her life
as an introvert. I mean as an extrovert, but is
really an introvert. So how do you gravitate towards the
entertainment industry as an introvert?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, well, you know I used to, I mean aside
from uh, you know, my career acting or whatever, but
just in life. I used to drink to kind of
combat that, and it was like this ego kind of
juice for me, and it would just give me like this.
But I've realized that a lot of my behavior when
I did that, it's kind of like the cringey, embarrassing
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stuff that I don't want to repeat. So I don't
drink anymore, and and it's had me sort of be
able to have to sit with myself, get comfortable with myself,
sort of find other things that help with that. Exercise,
being creative, like different things like that help with that.
But as an actor, I don't know, I'm you know,
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there's some things where I don't know. I think that's
why I drink or wear stupid clothes in the past,
just to kind of like, you know, to like, okay,
look at me. You know what I mean, like, yes,
look at me, so that I you know, I don't know,
I feel it easier to if somebody's looking at me,
if I have the spotlight, if I'm on stage two,
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then you know, shine or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Or well they can talk about that, but it's not
really you. It's like it's like a distraction. It feels
like right when you're not being right, like look at this.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, then you then you're like, oh, what are these
feelings and why am I feel? How do I let
this sort of you know, heavy feeling kind of pass
and breath through it. And it's especially hard being a
parent because it's just like, oh, you deal with all
these triggering things from your past. I just realized, like
(05:16):
when I'm in a car with a bunch of kids,
like they're screaming, like it's getting out of control. Something
triggers in me, like yah, traveling across the country that
just I don't know what it is, and I have
to like literally say to my kids, listen, not you,
but I'm getting a lot of anxiety. Can you just
kind of tone it down?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I can make you feel I don't. I think it's
funny when you hear like your kids in the back
on TikTok and the noises and you're just like, like
these little things happen that you just want none of it.
Once you've heard it once, anytime you hear it even
for a second, you can't even you know, you can't handle.
But that's also age. Like if I don't like anything repetitive,
like any kind of music that's repetit, I can't handle
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any even if it's like Mozart, I can't handle repetition.
So we're all getting crazier or or more authentically who
we really are. So I guess if you had to
be a reality star or you had to just be yourself,
that would be harder than being another character because that
gets to be some sort of like a shield.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right a little. I just a couple of years ago,
I did a documentary called You Could Not Kill David
or Cat, and it sort of focuses on my love
of wrestling. And I did a wrestling movie and I
was they made Meet the Champion and wrestling fans got
really upset. So I went back to sort of prove myself.
And in a sense, it's kind of a little snapshot
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of my reality or my world within this wrestling sort
of place. But I don't know, there's something kind of
liberating about being able to just be yourself and not
hide behind a character and just like accept me for
my flaws and like, you know, standing your flaws, and
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also like I'm justlexic, so I'm the type that takes
those flaws and figures out a way to like make
it work for me in a better way, for you know,
a way that sort of helps me find Yeah, are you?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But the wrestling thing was a real thing. It's a
it was a role that turned into a real thing,
which sounds like it's funny because I feel like when
I was waking up this morning, I was thinking about
everything I read last night. I wanted to say it
sounded like a midlife transition. It sounded like a midlife
blank that I can say, like now I'm a wrest
Like it sounds like a new identity, but so unusual.
(07:42):
So it's not a hot It wasn't a hobby. You
weren't just doing jiu jitsu on the side. You were
like a wrestler.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, yeah, what the heck?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Explain that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's a really interesting form of entertainment. I don't think
it's like understood by people. I think it's like brushed
off as it being this, but it's a lot complex
and detailed, and there's all of these nuance to it
when you get into it. And like I toured for
a couple of years doing independent shows and wrestling all
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throughout the country. So and I trained in Tijuana with
luchadors and really, yeah, it was a lot of fun.
It was because they almost died.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So wow, it's so super dangerous.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, the whole lesson. Yeah. I got stabbed in the
neck at one point, but it was a mistake. I
was in something called death match. But you know, I
learned something like why am I beating myself up? I
was asking myself that, and it went down to like, also,
I had had alcohol abuse in the past and just
you know, came from an abusive background. So I was like,
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why am I like beating myself up so much? And
then you know, understanding that and how not to do
that and how to sort of like then lean into
self care and you know, really taking care of your
needs kind of helped a lot. It captured this point
in my life where you know, all of that was
coming together and uh, I don't know, it was a
(09:09):
I was really sort of opened. You know. You see
me do a therapeutic ketamine treatment in the in the movie.
It's pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Wow. So the wrestling was was was harmful to yourself
or healing because you're saying you were beating yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Up with physically harmful Yeah, to your body, it's completely destructive,
but to your to my mental in my sort of
self confidence, it was really like it got me to
be in the moment a lot more. There's the thing
about wrestling. When you're first learning it, you're like pitter
pattering your feet a lot, and once you like learn
how to settle in and then slow time down and
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then you get your moves really crisp and you like
make it look really painful, but you're actually not hurting
the person at all. It's a pretty magical dance once
you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And do you do it at all? Now? Are you
left that behind?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, I don't do it at the moment. I'm not
completely like I love the business and the fans so
much that I'm not like I'm open to having some
fun in that world again. But what it also did
was I loved wrestling as a kid, and it's also
sort of my love for Boso the clown. Like certain
things that I've loved as a kid, I want to
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like hold onto those things to so my kids can
experience them, so they also can sort of enjoy it.
So we could go to wrestling matches together, or we
could go to the circus or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I know, Boso's your whole life. So Boso's also my generation,
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, Like I fell in love with Boso when I
was like three or four years old in Chicago in Evanston,
and he was really big at the time on WGN
and Bob Bell played Boso and I just fell in
love with it. So then I started studying clown. Recently,
we're doing a documentary about that, and oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just Boso, it's the whole art of the clown, like
the whole life of the clown.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We're sort of using Bozo in a sense to sort
of bring the brand back, but in a sense help
bring back kind clowns and fun clowns and silly clowns
and not just scary clowns, because scary clowns are sort
of taking up all the air in the room.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Do you know Eric stone Street?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah? I love Eric and I know he's a trained clown.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh you do. I was gonna say, because he's Yeah,
that's crazy, Like he's definitely the only train clown I know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I'd love for him to come play it. I
love the stuff they did on Modern Family involving clowns.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, he's full, he's full. I mean, it's not going
to be that hard. It's going to be hard to
cast the clown world because there aren't that many other people.
So he might be able to get some sort of
part in whatever you're doing because he's the string.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Such a cool world. Like when you learn clown, there's
a few things like it's a gift that you're presenting
to the to the audience, or whatever. So it's not
like you're asking for anything in return, So you're just
kind of putting it out there, and it's a skilled
performance that you've sort of crafted for them. But that's
the gift. So and if you could tap into that
(12:07):
like light lightness in your heart like when we were children,
that brightness in our eyes where your clown lives and
when like the idea is like, if we could get
more people like understanding that and being able to laugh
at themselves and laugh with each other, but not laughing
at people or causing people pain. You know, there's a
(12:30):
a this an old poster right there that's about being funny,
like being funny in the right way, but not.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's so true because I literally when I think of clown,
the last interaction with a clown that I've had is
watching that Walmart commercial when the clown stepped on that
like sharp unicorn. Do you did you ever see that commercial?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Remember this?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's a it's actually so there's a kid's party and
they're all sitting there and the clown is being a
clown and entertaining them. You gotta look it up, and
he accidentally steps on like a sharp like unicorn toy
and screams at the top of his lungs, and it's
just it's hilarious, Like it's a very edgy for Walmart
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commercial because it's just so irreverent. It was really funny.
But it wasn't laughing at the cloud, and it wasn't
it wasn't making fun of the clown, and it wasn't
the kids like laughing in like an innocent way at
the clint. It was the clown totally just making a mistake.
And I was I was crying at this commercial. I
don't know why. I just remember it. You have to
go see it. If that's if that's this brand adjacent.
(13:37):
And so your relationship was extremely public, and I guess
that's because you were both very famous at that time
for different reasons, and because Courtney was, you know, on
the biggest show of all time and that was like
that moment and thank god there was no social media then.
It was just reading the magazines. But and I didn't
(14:00):
realize it lasted so long as a fourteen year marriage, right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, somewhere around there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, So that's successful, especially you know, by Hollywood standards,
by anyone's standards, But in my mind, it was a
couple of years and then I read and I was like, wait,
they were married for fourteen years and it was very public.
And it's beautiful that you say that you are like
in your great co parents, like give a beautiful relationship.
You're in each other's lives besides the kids child.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, ultimate respect and love for each other. It's all
about Coco and it's all about you know, being that
example for a healthy relationship even if it doesn't work out.
And that sort of started when we, you know, we
got separated and that was in public for a long time.
But when it came to the divorce, I personally believe
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that a lot of people spend most of the money
on lawyers when they sitting it. And you know, if
you can be reasonable and rational and sort of approach
it in a way where you're both have your child's
future in your on your mind, I think you can
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really do magical things and save a lot of money.
We had a mediator and she said it was the
cheapest she never charged her clients.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's that's that's that's about the two people. That is
one that's the most admirable thing whenever I hear that,
because it is really really rare. More it's more rare
than being a wrestler that's into clowns. I think, yeah,
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it's rare. And that's a role model, you know, because
also for your kids, you want to be show them
a positive relationship in many forms.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And Christina is just incredible.
She's really me. She helped me get through that. I mean,
I was super damaged by the time we had met,
and there was a lot of like you know, shrapnels
she had to deal with at that time. So once
we made it through and just sort of worked on
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ourselves individually and then came back together, it's really been beautiful.
As far as a different take, we just realized, like,
you know, there's like a passion to arguing and like,
you know, that push and pull of a relationship. But
once you like drop the scarf and you know, you
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listen to each other's needs and boundaries and you start like,
you know, really are clear about all that. I don't know,
there's a really beautiful thing that happens when you don't argue.
I think I think fighting is pretty much the biggest
waste of time on this planet. You know, the things
that you know, it's important to like, you know, stand
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firm for what you need and all that stuff. But
I think, I don't know, I like everyone to win.
You know, it's crazy, but I like like when things
work for everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Right, Well, you're describing a lot of any business relationship.
This should be a little bit of a rub and
everyone's a little uncomfortable, but ultimately happy, ultimately satisfied.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, And there's so many things that happen within that
world that are also like, I don't know, just it's
it's a crazy world. When you see some people get
cut through, I don't know, some people do business in
a really different way.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same. It's very very having
been through both in a very intense way, had a
ten year divorce on a two year marriage, so having
been through an serious business career and that it's it's
it is oddly similar. So I can't ask for cautionary
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tales because you were married for fourteen years, so that
to me is a successful marriage. It just sounds like
different when in different directions. So I would have asked
you if like you got married too young or something.
But I do think it was successful, So I different directions.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think just in general, you should never let your
you know, you have to be independent, but you can
be independent, you know, in a parallel way, not in
a moving away from each other way. And once you
start to get too far, just leave the room for
other people to like utter needs to like kind of
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come up, and you know, factors within the relationship. I think,
I think you just have to keep it. Like I
think relationships move apart in general, but you have to
just keep coming and really staying close.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Get back to center, because once you've gone too far,
it's hard to get back. How could so know if
your paths are gonna separate them? Would that mean that?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What you can't know? So like marriage shouldn't seem like
something that has to last forever. I'm just you know
what I'm saying, Like, I don't how could someone know?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I listen. I think it's all relative and you can, like,
you know, I understand a lot of people not wanting
to get married anymore, not wanting to have kids. I
totally get it, Like it's too choice and it's beautiful
and you know, and there's also people change and you
go through things that maybe you do like kind of
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outgrow each other or you're not you know, that type
of partner anymore. You can be friends, but you're not
just not romantic or whatever it is in your relationship.
But I don't know, I think as long as you
know it's not toxic, like that's where you want to
really avoid those kind of you know, bickering and like
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the kind of stuff that just I don't know, it
becomes like a drag on your life, right, well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Like a crack becomes a crater. But it sounded and
reading about you like like maybe marriage isn't really for
the young because it sounds like you now admit that
it's hard, which I admit that relationships are hard to
and not a one size fits all. When we're younger,
I think you think you're supposed to be married in
a way that you're supposed to be married, versus when
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you're older, you kind of a la carte menu, like
curate your own marriage, like relationship. I'm in a relationship
with someone who lives in a different state, like you know,
And but it works because in the beginning we were
trying to force it to be what it was supposed
to be, and once you actually realize who you actually
are and what the dynamic actually is, and then make
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that work. You're kind of swimming under the wave instead
of fighting the wave.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's awesome because.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You're as you say, you admit that it's hard. Like
if someone doesn't admit that it's hard, I think there's
the thing wrong with them like that. And I'm being
too judgmental, but like, are you what something will crack
at some point? How could two people be like clones
that want the exact same thing. It doesn't make any
sense to.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Me, No, me, no, right, yeah, especially if you're you know,
I was once with my therapist. It's like and he's like,
you like strong women. That's just the reality you're gonna
you know, you wouldn't be happy with somebody who was
more subservient in the sense because you just like, you know,
somebody who's strong, who's like a powerful woman. And I
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was like, yeah, that's true. You know. So with that
comes you know, very strong opinion, like you know what
I mean, you have to.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yes, yeah, I'm that I'm that strong. Yeah. Well, you
like to wrestle, and when.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You understand that, there's a beauty to it. If you
have an ego about it, it can be a complete
disaster because then you're like you're caught up in all
these things that have nothing to do with your actual
relationship and your dynamic together, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You can't you can't walk in and buy something in
a store and then wonder why you got what you
walked in to buy, Like you like strong women. So
then you can't you know what I mean, You can't
want a dog to be a cat. You you adopted
a dog, you didn't adopt a cat. You know it's
not gonna be a cat.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That being said, my wife did adopt fair dog at
one point. You know, there was some some healing I
had to do. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So Scream has been an indelible part of your career
and has that been amazing? What's your relationship with that
entire experience?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh yeah, it's been completely amazing, as far as got
to work with Wes Craven, which was incredible gift. He
was a real mentor and uh really fabulous director. Then
I met Courtney and then my daughter Cocoa, which is
just like everything in the world. So I mean, just
that alone, but then you know, being part of this
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new franchise and the fifth one, getting to work with
Melissa and Jenna and the new directors Matt and Tyler.
It was it was great. I think they're it's just
a fun thing to be a part of. You meet
these people at the fans at these different conventions or whatever,
and they're just so touched. Like we met in our
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first movie and we've been married for ten years. It's
like just these really beautiful moments. And also that it
like span this amount of time and that it's like
connected with people and when people have our fans are
kind of like serious fans, so it's really like been
important to them for twenty five years. So when you
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start doing that, start talking, I don't know, there's something
really sweet. I have a relationship with fans where it's
like they kind of feel like they're my friends, and
I feel like, which is a good way to be.
I've seen the other dynamic where it's more like old
movie star style. It's nice not for me.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well has that what's been? And you own Bootsy Bellows
where I've been? Isn't there one in Aspen?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, and so that was your concept. That doesn't seem
that does not seem like you at all. Someone came
to you with the concept or you created the concept.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We have puppets, so that might be right. It's named
after my mother. I found her in a like a
fifties pinup book and she was ingerie fighting with another
lady and I was like, Mom, I was eighteen. I'm like, Mom,
I found you in this book. It's like, oh, you know,
we weren't really fighting. Like, oh Mom, Like did you
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ever strip? And she was like no, but I burlest
danced a couple of times. It's like, did you have
a burlest day ancing name? And she said Bootsy Bellows.
So that's why it's named that. I opened it with
my two partners, Brian Tole and John Chersey in from
the h Wood Group, and they've gone on to open
about twenty different places. And yeah, so Bootsies have been great.
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We have one at Sofi Stadium too for all of
the round.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, you're partners and all of them.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I mean Aspen's a licensing deal, so we have
a partner up there Andrew. But aside from that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, are you business minded a little bit?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's not like I'm not the greatest about it. I
need business partners. I'm more creative marketing, like I have
those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Sounds like, I mean for someone who's more creative than
business minded. And first of all the most important thing
is to know that, because so many people who are
creative have opportunities and then they think that they're like
the business part of it, and the chefs do this
all the time and it ends up being disaster. And
so it's smart to say I'm more creative, but I
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partner with the right people. But I think it's fascinating
that you came. You have two things that really have
like gone on for exponential success.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Do you what percentage of your career do you think
has been luck and skill? And I consider yeah, luck
intelligent skill. I consider skill like knowing the right projects
to pick. Also, so what percentage do you think is each?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I think there's a lot of luck in general, just
in this business, in whatever business you're going in. I
also think a lot of that luck comes from falling
down on your face first and then you know, you know,
your first experience in the night club industry or my
first experience was I learned a lot, I lost a lot.
I was then able to go on and create something successful.
(26:52):
So the first one I lost a lot. The second
one has gone on for ten years now. But yeah,
learning from your mistakes is really important, and you know,
figuring out how to delegate, how to work with people.
The best experiences I've had on a professional level, I
mean some of them. We did a game show at
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one point called Celebrity Name Game, and we got to
work with a Fremantle and and just like, yeah, I
don't know, just the group that we had brought together,
they were just so like, I don't know, just everyone
knew their job and did it really well on a
very high level. So it was like having this really
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you know, the pie got cut up a lot more
people were just yeah, I don't know. There was just
a professional level. So when you the point is when
you work with you know, really skilled people, you share
with them, but then you you know, you create the boat. Right.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's the alchemy, which somebody Ian Schrager said to me
about everything coming together alchemy. I like that word. H No,
But it sounds like you were an actor and kind
of early in diversifying your portfolio and being in these
other businesses that are passive income. You know, like you're
(28:19):
sleeping and Booty Bell is making money.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, that was mainly like out of a desire not
to just go crazy. There's a certain like pretty much
let's say November November to through the new year. As
an actor, if you haven't booked something, you're just gonna
be like excessive three months. And it's during the holidays.
(28:44):
It's just really hard. You know, you typically actor, you know,
if you're not don't have certain income, if you're a
working actor, it literally can be like the hardest time
of the years, right around Christmas. It's is so I
don't know that.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
No one's ever said that to me before. I did
not know. I would never have known that.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, I mean it's changed a little now. It was
even hardercore when there were three networks and you know, right,
but it's a little better now. But if you haven't
booked something and then you go into so for that,
I started, you know, making sure I was doing art,
making sure I was you know, doing some other business.
I started a clothing line for a while with Ben
(29:24):
Harper called Proper and you know, took another bath with that. Yeah,
but learned. It was like this incredible experience like learning
the garment industry and.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You're usually putting your own money into these things.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's like a dumb yeah yeah, okay arts. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So what's been the most lucrative business what's been the
most lucrative aspect of your entire career. I'm not saying
you like tell me what the numbers. I just mean, like,
what thing would we be surprised by it?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't know. My wife's just amazing think she she
produced the helped produce the They Call Me Magic, the
Magic Johnson documentary and being able to I produce it
with her. Oh okay, I was a co ep. But
being able to work with, you know, a hero of
(30:16):
mine like magic and create something that he was proud of,
that was really a joy. We also invested in a
nonfiction movie studio called XTR and and my friend Tony,
she had invested in a movie that got nominated for
an Academy Award after he had passed. But that was
(30:38):
kind of a big moment, just because it was something
he wanted to get nominated for something at Sundance.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And definitely an investor and I don't that's nowhere written
that's interest. You're definitely an investor. You just named like
ten different investments over the course of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You're an investor, I mean early seed money, sweat equity.
That's like then bring investors for the bigger sort of
stuff is sort of what we.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So, what's been the best thing you've ever invested in?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't know. I've invested in both of the clown
It took me fifteen years and it was like a
dream of mine from when I was a kid. It
wass been more than I you know, anticipated like you
kind of need a huge infrastructure and like you know,
big time lawyers to kind of handle a ip like this.
But it's been really a lot of joy. You know,
(31:30):
we're doing music and we're going to do a film
and doing a documentary at the moment, which has been fun,
like editing with my wife, it's always hilarious.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
From a business perspective, like tell me what, Like I'm
not asking numbers, like what has had the best ROI
not not emotionally, but like actual business the club or
the scream or scream.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
What's the most financially successful?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, for sure is what the club?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Scream? The scream stuff? Well, the club, you know where
the club is is great and incredible. It's more of
a if we ever sell it kind of thing that
would be then at that point, but right now it's uh,
it would be scream.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
But screaming because it has all of the other appearances
and all the other things that go with it, and
like it's a whole world. Is like being an American
idol or something. You keep going on tour and it's
a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of met weird like I look
for my high marks, not sort of on the financial side.
It's more like the little moments of uh, sort of
full circle moments. Because I was doing Missus Davis and
I'd gotten it from an audition on on the computer,
which I never you know, right, for years, you send
(32:44):
in these things and you know, you never hear. So
I finally got one and it's a really big show.
I get to work with these incredible directors and actors.
And then I worked on a and it's on the
Warner Brothers lot, so I spent a lot of time
time they're doing the friends time right moment of I've
always loved magicians. I get to play a magician working
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with Betsy Gilpin, who's just incredible in this show, and
Elizabeth Marble and I'm just like, like top tier actors.
I just like having this experience and I'm playing a
magician and then I look up and I'm on the
lot and it's it's Warner Brothers right there, and it's big.
We're in the biggest Like.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's like getting to feel like what it really was
or what you dreamt it would be. And it's like magical.
It sounds like it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Back I'm back here.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
No, And it's not like you're doing some weird thing
just to piece together like a career and money. Like
you're back to like you're an actor and your autut studio,
like you know, back Metro Goldwyn Mayer. Like that type
of vibe. Yeah, I get it. You're on a lot
like that's very iconic.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Keep fighting, like keep fighting because even right now, I
don't know what my next job is. I'm auditioning for
things and I'm like going out there and I'm having
these meetings and I'm like, you know, you're still just
like you know, thirty three years in this business and
like training you know.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, but that keeps you alive. That's I think that's interesting.
It's so funny you say that, because what you're talking
about is purpose and way and like I have certain
things in my business that are more lucrative than ever.
Like I'm doing extremely well. But I don't want to
say the word board because I don't want to do
too much. Because I like my life the way I
(34:29):
like it. So when something comes to me that's gonna
be really bulky and weeldy and like stressful, I don't
want to do it. But I also don't want to
be just like wandering around my house, you know, like
am I like you know these slippers I have that
have mice on them, like with no So when I
do these things like you're talking about, I went to
go do a show in Florida for ten days, and
(34:50):
like you wake up and like you're in a studio
and like you're a person and you're interacting, and like
I don't want that to be my whole life. I
don't want to be like on a talk show stuff
for three out of sixty five days a year. But
like you get a little you get a little hit,
you got a book, an appearance, get on a plane,
you sit in a hotel, you feel like a person again,
and then you come back to your nest. But I
get what you're saying because it's like, oh, I have purpose.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah. I love when when you can kind of create
your reality in your environment. Think, I'm such a fan
of Adam Sandler in the way he's worked with his friends,
and he's really kind of hated this whole environment. So
it's kind of like my idea with the Bozo thing,
which I'm trying to put together, is just get this
little core group that's not too big, you know what
(35:32):
I mean, that doesn't take huge production to do a film,
and then you can just hang out these things like
a guy named Ernest, the guy who did Earnest. I
don't know if you remember him, but like Ernest goes
to camp and all these things. Yes, of course, the
sort of model where it's just kind of small. You
could do it on your own. You can do it this, Yes,
hire all your friends. You don't need these huge budgets
(35:54):
because you have these big stars, and then you could
just go have fun and.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Like rite totally totally well, that's yeah. I literally was
sitting down screwing around a year ago and I became
a fifty two year old beauty influencer. Literally I've never
known how to do my own makeup. It bothered me
because if I was in Ohio, I didn't know how
to do it, and so I just started playing around
and all these people on TikTok were like, I didn't
(36:20):
know they were lying. I didn't know they were filter,
but they were like, oh my god, the glue. And
I was like, I want that. I'm buying that, and
I'm buying that, and then all of a sudden, I
was like, wait, is this bullshit? And I started buying
all this drug store stuff and comparing it to the
stuff that I have that people have given me. That's
expensive because I can afford to buy anything. But I
was playing around with like cover Girl and the cheap stuff,
(36:40):
and it was the same exact thing. And it was
like this discovery because I'm talking to like the moms
that just want to get out. They have ten minutes
to get ready. They're not like these experts. And it
exploded and did this crazy thing. And the thing that
people like about it is the home made of it.
Like I'll go in with bad lighting because I don't
even know how to do lighting, going into the dollar
store and start buying makeup, and now everybody wants to
(37:03):
be in business with me because this thing exploded and
I tell you millions and millions of views and now
like YouTube series and stuff, and I'm like, but I
don't want it to be too perfect. I'm like, I
don't want like good production. I want it to be
like decent, but I want it to not be too perfect.
I'm not if once you make it too perfect, Coca
Cola buys you all fucked. Happened to me in my
liquor business. Being global, multi billion dollar company comes in,
(37:27):
You're fucked because it's not like got the trustworthy spirit
of it. So it's like what you're saying totally, and
then it wants to be too polished.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Like does one need as far as like being busy,
you know what I mean? Like it almost feels like
we're the cycle of like work, we're working. Then it's like,
wait a second, it's really nice to go on a walk.
It's really yes, yes, the whin it's like, you know,
(37:58):
appreciate a ict or something like really kind of like
find those moments. That's where That's where I'm kind of like,
now I can spend any amount of time with my
kids because I can go to like their same game
and just sit there.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Like watch That's what I'm doing today exactly. So you're
like me, where you want to not be like Jello,
but you also don't want to be in the grind
where like everything you're talking about is being on your phone.
I got to do this and I got to do that,
and like schedule with an interviewer life. That's true balance.
I think everyone always makes it like it's the word,
you know, that's the true balance, Like just being present
(38:34):
in being with your kids at the game today because
I'm going to the lacrosse game and then being present
in the appearance or the beauty review or the Bozo project,
like being present in both not apologizing for either, but
also not like working to fill a hole and being Jello,
you know, to rebel from that.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, Like it's examples like with Boucies, Boucci is an
h Wood. They become really big. So we used to
always do these Coachello events every year. Bootsy is with
like McDonald's or all these things, and then they just
started then rebranding it now is h Wood. Now they're
doing them all h Wood at Coachella, and I'm kind
(39:14):
of like, you know, for for a second, my ego
gets like, wait, Bootsy started that but then I'm like, right,
I don't have to participate. I don't have to go
to Coachella. I don't have to Not that I did
it all the time anyway, but in general, it's just
I don't know. I'm all right with like, Okay, you
guys shine like they're hustling, like do it.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's the age. That's the age, like holding on to
everything and realizing it's the under the wave, like you're
you're not making any less money and it really doesn't matter,
but like it's so true. You just sit there and
you're like, that's just putting down all these like obligations
and saying yes in the moment because it sounds good
(39:59):
because it's just a word, a calendar, And then when
it comes you're like, I know, I.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Have a real I've been holding back my Yeah. I
said a little more because I used to very much
more like yes, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah yep.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
So you are you have three kids. You have two
children with your marriage now, which has been along. This
marriage has been for a long time too, right.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah eight years?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Eight years?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And you live in Nashville, and it sounds like you
it sounds like you have a decent amount of peace
like what used to be. I say, someone said to me,
good is great, Like good now is great? Like it's
not it's not a it's not action crazy like you know,
off on the seat, off the seat of your pants,
(40:57):
like jets. I used to be like jet setting everywhere
and running around and like how and low as a
roller coaster driving with no brakes. But like now life
is peaceful and good, and I think that at this point,
like that's what you just want, Like no, like really
no drama.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean little moments of like I don't
I don't want to get too wild ever, but little
moments of like like I just believe like finding those
moments to like laugh at your friends and just like
have a really great silly time as long as you
can do that, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, and you've been sober how many years?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I wouldn't say sober. I don't drink. I will smoke
like once in a while, I try not to do
it too much.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
But Okay, so you've been you've not you gave up alcohol.
But do you call yourself an alcoholic or it just
wasn't working for you in your life?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Acollic. I'm just an addict in general, I'm like, yeah,
an ego maniac when I do any of that kind
of stuff. But I don't think like pots that bad.
If you're like, you know, gonna go to a sleeve
or some like that, you know a.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Little bit and you're not going to play boso in
any of these project.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
And its perfect. I've been I've been playing a little
bit of boso. We're still figuring it all out, but yeah,
I'm going to play bol.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh, okay, great. I think that. I mean, respectfully, I
think that's perfect, you know what I mean. Like, that's
not that I don't like walk up to people like
you'd be great at playing boso, but you'd be great
at playing boso and your kids all love it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I went to Chicago and like I met with the
WG AND people and they're all like, well, you're not
a Chicago Boso and I was like, maybe I'm an Evanston.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Many wow people. They're very opinionated.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Did you because you're definitely quirky and I like that, Like,
you're not mainstream, so I consider myself kind of mainstream sadly,
Did you know who I was? Did your publicist like
shove you to meet with me and like do this.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I am totally for sure I think of me. Yeah,
for sure, I'm a view on the on the show.
But also all of your business, uh prowess has been incredible,
So that's I always look for that, and I always
like think that's impressible.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I would guess that you. I literally if I saw
you in a restaurant and someone said, oh, and that's
David Arcada, be like, he definitely has no idea who
I am. That's what I would say. That's funny. So
I'm wrong, And it happens a lot on.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Here for sure. No, I love those shows too, I mean,
for for you know when I watch them. I don't
watch them that often. But what is the other thing?
I think you guys may have gone to my first
night club, Beacher's Mad House at one point. I don't
know if you yes?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Is that is that?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Where's that at the Roosevelt? That was my first night club.
It was at the Roosevelt Hotel. It was called That's
Beacher's Madhouse. Y, yes, I did go there.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Wires that would come down at the table with big
giant bottles of Champagne. I know it's inappropriate and and
it's a different time.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
No, I definitely went there. Yeah, you've had a lot,
You've had many lives, David. I think it was what
I'm to say, Oh, amazing you have a good memory then,
because I went to the place and Aspen too, so
I've supported your business endeavors. Well, it was amazing to
talk to you, and now I know you and you're very,
very interesting, and I literally I was so excited to
(44:25):
interview you because when I read all about you, I'm like,
this guy is like a lot going on, someone who
seems sheepish and quiet. So congratulations on all your success
and may continue and love to your family. And I
really appreciated talking to you.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Awesome. All right, let me know about Bozo and like
whatever's coming up. I live in Connecticut, but I'm in
La a lot, So if is ever anything that applies
to me, I'll support.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
You for sure. Healthy Humor. We support Healthy Humor, which
is the medical clowns that go into fifteen hospitals throughout
the county. Oh because they a patient that interacts with
a clown before surgery has a forty better outcome it's
(45:10):
a statistic crazy Argentina. Every children's hospital has medical clowns
in them, so they're really amazing, Like the magical healing that.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
They do that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
In these hospitals. Yeah, it's called Healthy Humor. So we
just did a big event for them at Bootsy Bellows.
So if anything, you'll hear on something.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Oh I love that, all right, Healthy Humor. I love that.
It's thinking it's New York is Yeah, amazing Okay, and.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Then they were the charity when they separated, and now
they're Healthy Humor.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
You're into everything. This is amazing. Really, you're really touching
so many different things. Okay, is there anything we forgot
to talk about? Like anything you want to promote it?
As it pertains to scream or bozo.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Beating America is another charity I do a lot of
work with.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I've worked with Feeding America because we do relief work
and we've we've had for uh for Hurricane Maria. You
were one of the first groups we met with.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
If you ever need any any help in that department.
I love Feeding America. They're a beautiful organization.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, Yeah, because we've met them on tarmacs and brought
food on planes to go to different relief relief zones. Amazing,
so good to meet you and have an amazing day.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Awesome, David. Oh the people you get to meet on
just be That was David Arquette, someone that is my
generation and I've read about him so much and I'm
so lucky that I get to just meet these people
(46:50):
that are people, because the truth is we just think
of them as characters, as headlines, as tabloids, as people's
as characters in movies, and like that's He's a person.
He's a cool person, and now I know him, and
like this has been such an education. I'm just I
don't know, it's just so exciting. Like I read about him,
(47:12):
Like what the hell he had so much going on?
Why would I know about it? I don't know him,
but now I know him. Now you guys know him
and support him. So thank you so much for listening.
Remember to rate, review and subscribe. That was David Arquette.
Very interesting guy.
David Arquette is an actor and if you didn't know,
he was a former professional wrestler too. He is best
known for his role as Dewey Riley and the slasher
film franchise Scream, as well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
Never Been Kissed and more. You can also catch him
in Missus Davis streaming on Peacock. This is just be
(00:32):
with David Arquette. What are you running around? What's so
important that you're doing? I'm powdering my face? What's all?
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Nothing? I just have a show coming out, just doing
this and I went golfing for a little earlier.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So you are in LA.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh right, you moved to Nashville. And what was what
precipitated that move?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I have two kids with my wife, Christina, and she
wanted to raise the boys outside of a big city
like LA. She's from Arkansas. So my daughter still she's
eighteen now she lives in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But and that was a big thing. I think a
lot of people did that to Nashville in particular during
the and Texas from LA during pandemic.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah. Yeah, it's been interesting, you know, I grew up
in La so it's been a bit hard for me.
But you know, it's a calmer life here and too sweet.
We've got a nice little community.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
So I have had so many people on here and
you're reading about you was honestly, if the most interesting,
if not one of the most. I mean it was
really There was so many things I read about you
that I would never have known. And you're my era,
you're my generation, like you're someone I read about in
(02:02):
you know, the magazines and tabloids and senior movies. So
I was shocked that there were all these things I
didn't know about you that were surprising, like many multi layered,
I think, yeah, really interesting, really interesting. So reading that
the only thing that was not a surprise was reading
that you're an introvert. That was that comes across in
(02:25):
your persona.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I have a really hard it's getting more. I'm
getting more comfortable in social situations. But it's a roller coaster.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's a roller coaster, and sometimes I don't think being
an introvert is something that people really think and understand
is real. And I meet people, I know some people
that have been living a life as an extrovert, uncomfortably,
but they actually are an introvert. And I think as
you get older and into your fifties, you start to
(02:56):
think about that because just because you have a personality
doesn't mean you want to interact, you know, like reading
about you. Like I don't like to transact. I don't
like a lot of like talking to someone and like
can I get your room key? And how you having
your day, and like interacting a lot, Like I get
anxiety from transacting. So, and I was just talking to
(03:21):
someone who said that she has been living her life
as an introvert. I mean as an extrovert, but is
really an introvert. So how do you gravitate towards the
entertainment industry as an introvert?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, well, you know I used to, I mean aside
from uh, you know, my career acting or whatever, but
just in life. I used to drink to kind of
combat that, and it was like this ego kind of
juice for me, and it would just give me like this.
But I've realized that a lot of my behavior when
I did that, it's kind of like the cringey, embarrassing
(03:57):
stuff that I don't want to repeat. So I don't
drink anymore, and and it's had me sort of be
able to have to sit with myself, get comfortable with myself,
sort of find other things that help with that. Exercise,
being creative, like different things like that help with that.
But as an actor, I don't know, I'm you know,
(04:20):
there's some things where I don't know. I think that's
why I drink or wear stupid clothes in the past,
just to kind of like, you know, to like, okay,
look at me. You know what I mean, like, yes,
look at me, so that I you know, I don't know,
I feel it easier to if somebody's looking at me,
if I have the spotlight, if I'm on stage two,
(04:42):
then you know, shine or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Or well they can talk about that, but it's not
really you. It's like it's like a distraction. It feels
like right when you're not being right, like look at this.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, then you then you're like, oh, what are these
feelings and why am I feel? How do I let
this sort of you know, heavy feeling kind of pass
and breath through it. And it's especially hard being a
parent because it's just like, oh, you deal with all
these triggering things from your past. I just realized, like
(05:16):
when I'm in a car with a bunch of kids,
like they're screaming, like it's getting out of control. Something
triggers in me, like yah, traveling across the country that
just I don't know what it is, and I have
to like literally say to my kids, listen, not you,
but I'm getting a lot of anxiety. Can you just
kind of tone it down?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I can make you feel I don't. I think it's
funny when you hear like your kids in the back
on TikTok and the noises and you're just like, like
these little things happen that you just want none of it.
Once you've heard it once, anytime you hear it even
for a second, you can't even you know, you can't handle.
But that's also age. Like if I don't like anything repetitive,
like any kind of music that's repetit, I can't handle
(05:58):
any even if it's like Mozart, I can't handle repetition.
So we're all getting crazier or or more authentically who
we really are. So I guess if you had to
be a reality star or you had to just be yourself,
that would be harder than being another character because that
gets to be some sort of like a shield.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right a little. I just a couple of years ago,
I did a documentary called You Could Not Kill David
or Cat, and it sort of focuses on my love
of wrestling. And I did a wrestling movie and I
was they made Meet the Champion and wrestling fans got
really upset. So I went back to sort of prove myself.
And in a sense, it's kind of a little snapshot
(06:41):
of my reality or my world within this wrestling sort
of place. But I don't know, there's something kind of
liberating about being able to just be yourself and not
hide behind a character and just like accept me for
my flaws and like, you know, standing your flaws, and
(07:03):
also like I'm justlexic, so I'm the type that takes
those flaws and figures out a way to like make
it work for me in a better way, for you know,
a way that sort of helps me find Yeah, are you?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
But the wrestling thing was a real thing. It's a
it was a role that turned into a real thing,
which sounds like it's funny because I feel like when
I was waking up this morning, I was thinking about
everything I read last night. I wanted to say it
sounded like a midlife transition. It sounded like a midlife
blank that I can say, like now I'm a wrest
Like it sounds like a new identity, but so unusual.
(07:42):
So it's not a hot It wasn't a hobby. You
weren't just doing jiu jitsu on the side. You were
like a wrestler.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, yeah, what the heck?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Explain that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's a really interesting form of entertainment. I don't think
it's like understood by people. I think it's like brushed
off as it being this, but it's a lot complex
and detailed, and there's all of these nuance to it
when you get into it. And like I toured for
a couple of years doing independent shows and wrestling all
(08:13):
throughout the country. So and I trained in Tijuana with
luchadors and really, yeah, it was a lot of fun.
It was because they almost died.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So wow, it's so super dangerous.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, the whole lesson. Yeah. I got stabbed in the
neck at one point, but it was a mistake. I
was in something called death match. But you know, I
learned something like why am I beating myself up? I
was asking myself that, and it went down to like, also,
I had had alcohol abuse in the past and just
you know, came from an abusive background. So I was like,
(08:47):
why am I like beating myself up so much? And
then you know, understanding that and how not to do
that and how to sort of like then lean into
self care and you know, really taking care of your
needs kind of helped a lot. It captured this point
in my life where you know, all of that was
coming together and uh, I don't know, it was a
(09:09):
I was really sort of opened. You know. You see
me do a therapeutic ketamine treatment in the in the movie.
It's pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Wow. So the wrestling was was was harmful to yourself
or healing because you're saying you were beating yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Up with physically harmful Yeah, to your body, it's completely destructive,
but to your to my mental in my sort of
self confidence, it was really like it got me to
be in the moment a lot more. There's the thing
about wrestling. When you're first learning it, you're like pitter
pattering your feet a lot, and once you like learn
how to settle in and then slow time down and
(09:49):
then you get your moves really crisp and you like
make it look really painful, but you're actually not hurting
the person at all. It's a pretty magical dance once
you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And do you do it at all? Now? Are you
left that behind?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, I don't do it at the moment. I'm not
completely like I love the business and the fans so
much that I'm not like I'm open to having some
fun in that world again. But what it also did
was I loved wrestling as a kid, and it's also
sort of my love for Boso the clown. Like certain
things that I've loved as a kid, I want to
(10:22):
like hold onto those things to so my kids can
experience them, so they also can sort of enjoy it.
So we could go to wrestling matches together, or we
could go to the circus or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I know, Boso's your whole life. So Boso's also my generation,
you know.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, Like I fell in love with Boso when I
was like three or four years old in Chicago in Evanston,
and he was really big at the time on WGN
and Bob Bell played Boso and I just fell in
love with it. So then I started studying clown. Recently,
we're doing a documentary about that, and oh, it's not.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just Boso, it's the whole art of the clown, like
the whole life of the clown.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
We're sort of using Bozo in a sense to sort
of bring the brand back, but in a sense help
bring back kind clowns and fun clowns and silly clowns
and not just scary clowns, because scary clowns are sort
of taking up all the air in the room.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Do you know Eric stone Street?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah? I love Eric and I know he's a trained clown.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh you do. I was gonna say, because he's Yeah,
that's crazy, Like he's definitely the only train clown I know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, I'd love for him to come play it. I
love the stuff they did on Modern Family involving clowns.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, he's full, he's full. I mean, it's not going
to be that hard. It's going to be hard to
cast the clown world because there aren't that many other people.
So he might be able to get some sort of
part in whatever you're doing because he's the string.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Such a cool world. Like when you learn clown, there's
a few things like it's a gift that you're presenting
to the to the audience, or whatever. So it's not
like you're asking for anything in return, So you're just
kind of putting it out there, and it's a skilled
performance that you've sort of crafted for them. But that's
the gift. So and if you could tap into that
(12:07):
like light lightness in your heart like when we were children,
that brightness in our eyes where your clown lives and
when like the idea is like, if we could get
more people like understanding that and being able to laugh
at themselves and laugh with each other, but not laughing
at people or causing people pain. You know, there's a
(12:30):
a this an old poster right there that's about being funny,
like being funny in the right way, but not.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's so true because I literally when I think of clown,
the last interaction with a clown that I've had is
watching that Walmart commercial when the clown stepped on that
like sharp unicorn. Do you did you ever see that commercial?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Remember this?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It's a it's actually so there's a kid's party and
they're all sitting there and the clown is being a
clown and entertaining them. You gotta look it up, and
he accidentally steps on like a sharp like unicorn toy
and screams at the top of his lungs, and it's
just it's hilarious, Like it's a very edgy for Walmart
(13:14):
commercial because it's just so irreverent. It was really funny.
But it wasn't laughing at the cloud, and it wasn't
it wasn't making fun of the clown, and it wasn't
the kids like laughing in like an innocent way at
the clint. It was the clown totally just making a mistake.
And I was I was crying at this commercial. I
don't know why. I just remember it. You have to
go see it. If that's if that's this brand adjacent.
(13:37):
And so your relationship was extremely public, and I guess
that's because you were both very famous at that time
for different reasons, and because Courtney was, you know, on
the biggest show of all time and that was like
that moment and thank god there was no social media then.
It was just reading the magazines. But and I didn't
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realize it lasted so long as a fourteen year marriage, right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, somewhere around there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, So that's successful, especially you know, by Hollywood standards,
by anyone's standards, But in my mind, it was a
couple of years and then I read and I was like, wait,
they were married for fourteen years and it was very public.
And it's beautiful that you say that you are like
in your great co parents, like give a beautiful relationship.
You're in each other's lives besides the kids child.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, ultimate respect and love for each other. It's all
about Coco and it's all about you know, being that
example for a healthy relationship even if it doesn't work out.
And that sort of started when we, you know, we
got separated and that was in public for a long time.
But when it came to the divorce, I personally believe
(14:52):
that a lot of people spend most of the money
on lawyers when they sitting it. And you know, if
you can be reasonable and rational and sort of approach
it in a way where you're both have your child's
future in your on your mind, I think you can
(15:15):
really do magical things and save a lot of money.
We had a mediator and she said it was the
cheapest she never charged her clients.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's that's that's that's about the two people. That is
one that's the most admirable thing whenever I hear that,
because it is really really rare. More it's more rare
than being a wrestler that's into clowns. I think, yeah,
(15:43):
it's rare. And that's a role model, you know, because
also for your kids, you want to be show them
a positive relationship in many forms.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. And Christina is just incredible.
She's really me. She helped me get through that. I mean,
I was super damaged by the time we had met,
and there was a lot of like you know, shrapnels
she had to deal with at that time. So once
we made it through and just sort of worked on
(16:16):
ourselves individually and then came back together, it's really been beautiful.
As far as a different take, we just realized, like,
you know, there's like a passion to arguing and like,
you know, that push and pull of a relationship. But
once you like drop the scarf and you know, you
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listen to each other's needs and boundaries and you start like,
you know, really are clear about all that. I don't know,
there's a really beautiful thing that happens when you don't argue.
I think I think fighting is pretty much the biggest
waste of time on this planet. You know, the things
that you know, it's important to like, you know, stand
(16:58):
firm for what you need and all that stuff. But
I think, I don't know, I like everyone to win.
You know, it's crazy, but I like like when things
work for everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Right, Well, you're describing a lot of any business relationship.
This should be a little bit of a rub and
everyone's a little uncomfortable, but ultimately happy, ultimately satisfied.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, And there's so many things that happen within that
world that are also like, I don't know, just it's
it's a crazy world. When you see some people get
cut through, I don't know, some people do business in
a really different way.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same. It's very very having
been through both in a very intense way, had a
ten year divorce on a two year marriage, so having
been through an serious business career and that it's it's
it is oddly similar. So I can't ask for cautionary
(18:06):
tales because you were married for fourteen years, so that
to me is a successful marriage. It just sounds like
different when in different directions. So I would have asked
you if like you got married too young or something.
But I do think it was successful, So I different directions.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think just in general, you should never let your
you know, you have to be independent, but you can
be independent, you know, in a parallel way, not in
a moving away from each other way. And once you
start to get too far, just leave the room for
other people to like utter needs to like kind of
(18:42):
come up, and you know, factors within the relationship. I think,
I think you just have to keep it. Like I
think relationships move apart in general, but you have to
just keep coming and really staying close.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Get back to center, because once you've gone too far,
it's hard to get back. How could so know if
your paths are gonna separate them? Would that mean that?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What you can't know? So like marriage shouldn't seem like
something that has to last forever. I'm just you know
what I'm saying, Like, I don't how could someone know?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I listen. I think it's all relative and you can, like,
you know, I understand a lot of people not wanting
to get married anymore, not wanting to have kids. I
totally get it, Like it's too choice and it's beautiful
and you know, and there's also people change and you
go through things that maybe you do like kind of
(19:37):
outgrow each other or you're not you know, that type
of partner anymore. You can be friends, but you're not
just not romantic or whatever it is in your relationship.
But I don't know, I think as long as you
know it's not toxic, like that's where you want to
really avoid those kind of you know, bickering and like
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the kind of stuff that just I don't know, it
becomes like a drag on your life, right, well.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Like a crack becomes a crater. But it sounded and
reading about you like like maybe marriage isn't really for
the young because it sounds like you now admit that
it's hard, which I admit that relationships are hard to
and not a one size fits all. When we're younger,
I think you think you're supposed to be married in
a way that you're supposed to be married, versus when
(20:29):
you're older, you kind of a la carte menu, like
curate your own marriage, like relationship. I'm in a relationship
with someone who lives in a different state, like you know,
And but it works because in the beginning we were
trying to force it to be what it was supposed
to be, and once you actually realize who you actually
are and what the dynamic actually is, and then make
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that work. You're kind of swimming under the wave instead
of fighting the wave.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, you know what I mean, that's awesome because.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
You're as you say, you admit that it's hard. Like
if someone doesn't admit that it's hard, I think there's
the thing wrong with them like that. And I'm being
too judgmental, but like, are you what something will crack
at some point? How could two people be like clones
that want the exact same thing. It doesn't make any
sense to.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Me, No, me, no, right, yeah, especially if you're you know,
I was once with my therapist. It's like and he's like,
you like strong women. That's just the reality you're gonna
you know, you wouldn't be happy with somebody who was
more subservient in the sense because you just like, you know,
somebody who's strong, who's like a powerful woman. And I
(21:37):
was like, yeah, that's true. You know. So with that
comes you know, very strong opinion, like you know what
I mean, you have to.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yes, yeah, I'm that I'm that strong. Yeah. Well, you
like to wrestle, and when.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You understand that, there's a beauty to it. If you
have an ego about it, it can be a complete
disaster because then you're like you're caught up in all
these things that have nothing to do with your actual
relationship and your dynamic together, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
You can't you can't walk in and buy something in
a store and then wonder why you got what you
walked in to buy, Like you like strong women. So
then you can't you know what I mean, You can't
want a dog to be a cat. You you adopted
a dog, you didn't adopt a cat. You know it's
not gonna be a cat.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That being said, my wife did adopt fair dog at
one point. You know, there was some some healing I
had to do. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So Scream has been an indelible part of your career
and has that been amazing? What's your relationship with that
entire experience?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh yeah, it's been completely amazing, as far as got
to work with Wes Craven, which was incredible gift. He
was a real mentor and uh really fabulous director. Then
I met Courtney and then my daughter Cocoa, which is
just like everything in the world. So I mean, just
that alone, but then you know, being part of this
(23:09):
new franchise and the fifth one, getting to work with
Melissa and Jenna and the new directors Matt and Tyler.
It was it was great. I think they're it's just
a fun thing to be a part of. You meet
these people at the fans at these different conventions or whatever,
and they're just so touched. Like we met in our
(23:30):
first movie and we've been married for ten years. It's
like just these really beautiful moments. And also that it
like span this amount of time and that it's like
connected with people and when people have our fans are
kind of like serious fans, so it's really like been
important to them for twenty five years. So when you
(23:51):
start doing that, start talking, I don't know, there's something
really sweet. I have a relationship with fans where it's
like they kind of feel like they're my friends, and
I feel like, which is a good way to be.
I've seen the other dynamic where it's more like old
movie star style. It's nice not for me.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Well has that what's been? And you own Bootsy Bellows
where I've been? Isn't there one in Aspen?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Okay, and so that was your concept. That doesn't seem
that does not seem like you at all. Someone came
to you with the concept or you created the concept.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
We have puppets, so that might be right. It's named
after my mother. I found her in a like a
fifties pinup book and she was ingerie fighting with another
lady and I was like, Mom, I was eighteen. I'm like, Mom,
I found you in this book. It's like, oh, you know,
we weren't really fighting. Like, oh Mom, Like did you
(24:54):
ever strip? And she was like no, but I burlest
danced a couple of times. It's like, did you have
a burlest day ancing name? And she said Bootsy Bellows.
So that's why it's named that. I opened it with
my two partners, Brian Tole and John Chersey in from
the h Wood Group, and they've gone on to open
about twenty different places. And yeah, so Bootsies have been great.
(25:18):
We have one at Sofi Stadium too for all of
the round.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, you're partners and all of them.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I mean Aspen's a licensing deal, so we have
a partner up there Andrew. But aside from that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, are you business minded a little bit?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's not like I'm not the greatest about it. I
need business partners. I'm more creative marketing, like I have
those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Sounds like, I mean for someone who's more creative than
business minded. And first of all the most important thing
is to know that, because so many people who are
creative have opportunities and then they think that they're like
the business part of it, and the chefs do this
all the time and it ends up being disaster. And
so it's smart to say I'm more creative, but I
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partner with the right people. But I think it's fascinating
that you came. You have two things that really have
like gone on for exponential success.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Do you what percentage of your career do you think
has been luck and skill? And I consider yeah, luck
intelligent skill. I consider skill like knowing the right projects
to pick. Also, so what percentage do you think is each?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I think there's a lot of luck in general, just
in this business, in whatever business you're going in. I
also think a lot of that luck comes from falling
down on your face first and then you know, you know,
your first experience in the night club industry or my
first experience was I learned a lot, I lost a lot.
I was then able to go on and create something successful.
(26:52):
So the first one I lost a lot. The second
one has gone on for ten years now. But yeah,
learning from your mistakes is really important, and you know,
figuring out how to delegate, how to work with people.
The best experiences I've had on a professional level, I
mean some of them. We did a game show at
(27:13):
one point called Celebrity Name Game, and we got to
work with a Fremantle and and just like, yeah, I
don't know, just the group that we had brought together,
they were just so like, I don't know, just everyone
knew their job and did it really well on a
very high level. So it was like having this really
(27:35):
you know, the pie got cut up a lot more
people were just yeah, I don't know. There was just
a professional level. So when you the point is when
you work with you know, really skilled people, you share
with them, but then you you know, you create the boat. Right.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It's the alchemy, which somebody Ian Schrager said to me
about everything coming together alchemy. I like that word. H No,
But it sounds like you were an actor and kind
of early in diversifying your portfolio and being in these
other businesses that are passive income. You know, like you're
(28:19):
sleeping and Booty Bell is making money.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, that was mainly like out of a desire not
to just go crazy. There's a certain like pretty much
let's say November November to through the new year. As
an actor, if you haven't booked something, you're just gonna
be like excessive three months. And it's during the holidays.
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It's just really hard. You know, you typically actor, you know,
if you're not don't have certain income, if you're a
working actor, it literally can be like the hardest time
of the years, right around Christmas. It's is so I
don't know that.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
No one's ever said that to me before. I did
not know. I would never have known that.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, I mean it's changed a little now. It was
even hardercore when there were three networks and you know, right,
but it's a little better now. But if you haven't
booked something and then you go into so for that,
I started, you know, making sure I was doing art,
making sure I was you know, doing some other business.
I started a clothing line for a while with Ben
(29:24):
Harper called Proper and you know, took another bath with that. Yeah,
but learned. It was like this incredible experience like learning
the garment industry and.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You're usually putting your own money into these things.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's like a dumb yeah yeah, okay arts. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So what's been the most lucrative business what's been the
most lucrative aspect of your entire career. I'm not saying
you like tell me what the numbers. I just mean, like,
what thing would we be surprised by it?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I don't know. My wife's just amazing think she she
produced the helped produce the They Call Me Magic, the
Magic Johnson documentary and being able to I produce it
with her. Oh okay, I was a co ep. But
being able to work with, you know, a hero of
(30:16):
mine like magic and create something that he was proud of,
that was really a joy. We also invested in a
nonfiction movie studio called XTR and and my friend Tony,
she had invested in a movie that got nominated for
an Academy Award after he had passed. But that was
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kind of a big moment, just because it was something
he wanted to get nominated for something at Sundance.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And definitely an investor and I don't that's nowhere written
that's interest. You're definitely an investor. You just named like
ten different investments over the course of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You're an investor, I mean early seed money, sweat equity.
That's like then bring investors for the bigger sort of
stuff is sort of what we.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So, what's been the best thing you've ever invested in?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't know. I've invested in both of the clown
It took me fifteen years and it was like a
dream of mine from when I was a kid. It
wass been more than I you know, anticipated like you
kind of need a huge infrastructure and like you know,
big time lawyers to kind of handle a ip like this.
But it's been really a lot of joy. You know,
(31:30):
we're doing music and we're going to do a film
and doing a documentary at the moment, which has been fun,
like editing with my wife, it's always hilarious.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
From a business perspective, like tell me what, Like I'm
not asking numbers, like what has had the best ROI
not not emotionally, but like actual business the club or
the scream or scream.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
What's the most financially successful?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, for sure is what the club?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Scream? The scream stuff? Well, the club, you know where
the club is is great and incredible. It's more of
a if we ever sell it kind of thing that
would be then at that point, but right now it's uh,
it would be scream.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
But screaming because it has all of the other appearances
and all the other things that go with it, and
like it's a whole world. Is like being an American
idol or something. You keep going on tour and it's
a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of met weird like I look
for my high marks, not sort of on the financial side.
It's more like the little moments of uh, sort of
full circle moments. Because I was doing Missus Davis and
I'd gotten it from an audition on on the computer,
which I never you know, right, for years, you send
(32:44):
in these things and you know, you never hear. So
I finally got one and it's a really big show.
I get to work with these incredible directors and actors.
And then I worked on a and it's on the
Warner Brothers lot, so I spent a lot of time
time they're doing the friends time right moment of I've
always loved magicians. I get to play a magician working
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with Betsy Gilpin, who's just incredible in this show, and
Elizabeth Marble and I'm just like, like top tier actors.
I just like having this experience and I'm playing a
magician and then I look up and I'm on the
lot and it's it's Warner Brothers right there, and it's big.
We're in the biggest Like.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's like getting to feel like what it really was
or what you dreamt it would be. And it's like magical.
It sounds like it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Back I'm back here.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
No, And it's not like you're doing some weird thing
just to piece together like a career and money. Like
you're back to like you're an actor and your autut studio,
like you know, back Metro Goldwyn Mayer. Like that type
of vibe. Yeah, I get it. You're on a lot
like that's very iconic.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Keep fighting, like keep fighting because even right now, I
don't know what my next job is. I'm auditioning for
things and I'm like going out there and I'm having
these meetings and I'm like, you know, you're still just
like you know, thirty three years in this business and
like training you know.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, but that keeps you alive. That's I think that's interesting.
It's so funny you say that, because what you're talking
about is purpose and way and like I have certain
things in my business that are more lucrative than ever.
Like I'm doing extremely well. But I don't want to
say the word board because I don't want to do
too much. Because I like my life the way I
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like it. So when something comes to me that's gonna
be really bulky and weeldy and like stressful, I don't
want to do it. But I also don't want to
be just like wandering around my house, you know, like
am I like you know these slippers I have that
have mice on them, like with no So when I
do these things like you're talking about, I went to
go do a show in Florida for ten days, and
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like you wake up and like you're in a studio
and like you're a person and you're interacting, and like
I don't want that to be my whole life. I
don't want to be like on a talk show stuff
for three out of sixty five days a year. But
like you get a little you get a little hit,
you got a book, an appearance, get on a plane,
you sit in a hotel, you feel like a person again,
and then you come back to your nest. But I
get what you're saying because it's like, oh, I have purpose.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah. I love when when you can kind of create
your reality in your environment. Think, I'm such a fan
of Adam Sandler in the way he's worked with his friends,
and he's really kind of hated this whole environment. So
it's kind of like my idea with the Bozo thing,
which I'm trying to put together, is just get this
little core group that's not too big, you know what
(35:32):
I mean, that doesn't take huge production to do a film,
and then you can just hang out these things like
a guy named Ernest, the guy who did Earnest. I
don't know if you remember him, but like Ernest goes
to camp and all these things. Yes, of course, the
sort of model where it's just kind of small. You
could do it on your own. You can do it this, Yes,
hire all your friends. You don't need these huge budgets
(35:54):
because you have these big stars, and then you could
just go have fun and.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Like rite totally totally well, that's yeah. I literally was
sitting down screwing around a year ago and I became
a fifty two year old beauty influencer. Literally I've never
known how to do my own makeup. It bothered me
because if I was in Ohio, I didn't know how
to do it, and so I just started playing around
and all these people on TikTok were like, I didn't
(36:20):
know they were lying. I didn't know they were filter,
but they were like, oh my god, the glue. And
I was like, I want that. I'm buying that, and
I'm buying that, and then all of a sudden, I
was like, wait, is this bullshit? And I started buying
all this drug store stuff and comparing it to the
stuff that I have that people have given me. That's
expensive because I can afford to buy anything. But I
was playing around with like cover Girl and the cheap stuff,
(36:40):
and it was the same exact thing. And it was
like this discovery because I'm talking to like the moms
that just want to get out. They have ten minutes
to get ready. They're not like these experts. And it
exploded and did this crazy thing. And the thing that
people like about it is the home made of it.
Like I'll go in with bad lighting because I don't
even know how to do lighting, going into the dollar
store and start buying makeup, and now everybody wants to
(37:03):
be in business with me because this thing exploded and
I tell you millions and millions of views and now
like YouTube series and stuff, and I'm like, but I
don't want it to be too perfect. I'm like, I
don't want like good production. I want it to be
like decent, but I want it to not be too perfect.
I'm not if once you make it too perfect, Coca
Cola buys you all fucked. Happened to me in my
liquor business. Being global, multi billion dollar company comes in,
(37:27):
You're fucked because it's not like got the trustworthy spirit
of it. So it's like what you're saying totally, and
then it wants to be too polished.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Like does one need as far as like being busy,
you know what I mean? Like it almost feels like
we're the cycle of like work, we're working. Then it's like,
wait a second, it's really nice to go on a walk.
It's really yes, yes, the whin it's like, you know,
(37:58):
appreciate a ict or something like really kind of like
find those moments. That's where That's where I'm kind of like,
now I can spend any amount of time with my
kids because I can go to like their same game
and just sit there.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Like watch That's what I'm doing today exactly. So you're
like me, where you want to not be like Jello,
but you also don't want to be in the grind
where like everything you're talking about is being on your phone.
I got to do this and I got to do that,
and like schedule with an interviewer life. That's true balance.
I think everyone always makes it like it's the word,
you know, that's the true balance, Like just being present
(38:34):
in being with your kids at the game today because
I'm going to the lacrosse game and then being present
in the appearance or the beauty review or the Bozo project,
like being present in both not apologizing for either, but
also not like working to fill a hole and being Jello,
you know, to rebel from that.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, Like it's examples like with Boucies, Boucci is an
h Wood. They become really big. So we used to
always do these Coachello events every year. Bootsy is with
like McDonald's or all these things, and then they just
started then rebranding it now is h Wood. Now they're
doing them all h Wood at Coachella, and I'm kind
(39:14):
of like, you know, for for a second, my ego
gets like, wait, Bootsy started that but then I'm like, right,
I don't have to participate. I don't have to go
to Coachella. I don't have to Not that I did
it all the time anyway, but in general, it's just
I don't know. I'm all right with like, Okay, you
guys shine like they're hustling, like do it.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's the age. That's the age, like holding on to
everything and realizing it's the under the wave, like you're
you're not making any less money and it really doesn't matter,
but like it's so true. You just sit there and
you're like, that's just putting down all these like obligations
and saying yes in the moment because it sounds good
(39:59):
because it's just a word, a calendar, And then when
it comes you're like, I know, I.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Have a real I've been holding back my Yeah. I
said a little more because I used to very much
more like yes, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah yep.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
So you are you have three kids. You have two
children with your marriage now, which has been along. This
marriage has been for a long time too, right.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah eight years?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Eight years?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And you live in Nashville, and it sounds like you
it sounds like you have a decent amount of peace
like what used to be. I say, someone said to me,
good is great, Like good now is great? Like it's
not it's not a it's not action crazy like you know,
off on the seat, off the seat of your pants,
(40:57):
like jets. I used to be like jet setting everywhere
and running around and like how and low as a
roller coaster driving with no brakes. But like now life
is peaceful and good, and I think that at this point,
like that's what you just want, Like no, like really
no drama.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, yeah, I mean little moments of like I don't
I don't want to get too wild ever, but little
moments of like like I just believe like finding those
moments to like laugh at your friends and just like
have a really great silly time as long as you
can do that, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, and you've been sober how many years?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I wouldn't say sober. I don't drink. I will smoke
like once in a while, I try not to do
it too much.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
But Okay, so you've been you've not you gave up alcohol.
But do you call yourself an alcoholic or it just
wasn't working for you in your life?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Acollic. I'm just an addict in general, I'm like, yeah,
an ego maniac when I do any of that kind
of stuff. But I don't think like pots that bad.
If you're like, you know, gonna go to a sleeve
or some like that, you know a.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Little bit and you're not going to play boso in
any of these project.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
And its perfect. I've been I've been playing a little
bit of boso. We're still figuring it all out, but yeah,
I'm going to play bol.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh, okay, great. I think that. I mean, respectfully, I
think that's perfect, you know what I mean. Like, that's
not that I don't like walk up to people like
you'd be great at playing boso, but you'd be great
at playing boso and your kids all love it.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I went to Chicago and like I met with the
WG AND people and they're all like, well, you're not
a Chicago Boso and I was like, maybe I'm an Evanston.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Many wow people. They're very opinionated.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Did you because you're definitely quirky and I like that, Like,
you're not mainstream, so I consider myself kind of mainstream sadly,
Did you know who I was? Did your publicist like
shove you to meet with me and like do this.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I am totally for sure I think of me. Yeah,
for sure, I'm a view on the on the show.
But also all of your business, uh prowess has been incredible,
So that's I always look for that, and I always
like think that's impressible.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I would guess that you. I literally if I saw
you in a restaurant and someone said, oh, and that's
David Arcada, be like, he definitely has no idea who
I am. That's what I would say. That's funny. So
I'm wrong, And it happens a lot on.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Here for sure. No, I love those shows too, I mean,
for for you know when I watch them. I don't
watch them that often. But what is the other thing?
I think you guys may have gone to my first
night club, Beacher's Mad House at one point. I don't
know if you yes?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Is that is that?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Where's that at the Roosevelt? That was my first night club.
It was at the Roosevelt Hotel. It was called That's
Beacher's Madhouse. Y, yes, I did go there.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Wires that would come down at the table with big
giant bottles of Champagne. I know it's inappropriate and and
it's a different time.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
No, I definitely went there. Yeah, you've had a lot,
You've had many lives, David. I think it was what
I'm to say, Oh, amazing you have a good memory then,
because I went to the place and Aspen too, so
I've supported your business endeavors. Well, it was amazing to
talk to you, and now I know you and you're very,
very interesting, and I literally I was so excited to
(44:25):
interview you because when I read all about you, I'm like,
this guy is like a lot going on, someone who
seems sheepish and quiet. So congratulations on all your success
and may continue and love to your family. And I
really appreciated talking to you.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Awesome. All right, let me know about Bozo and like
whatever's coming up. I live in Connecticut, but I'm in
La a lot, So if is ever anything that applies
to me, I'll support.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
You for sure. Healthy Humor. We support Healthy Humor, which
is the medical clowns that go into fifteen hospitals throughout
the county. Oh because they a patient that interacts with
a clown before surgery has a forty better outcome it's
(45:10):
a statistic crazy Argentina. Every children's hospital has medical clowns
in them, so they're really amazing, Like the magical healing that.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
They do that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
In these hospitals. Yeah, it's called Healthy Humor. So we
just did a big event for them at Bootsy Bellows.
So if anything, you'll hear on something.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Oh I love that, all right, Healthy Humor. I love that.
It's thinking it's New York is Yeah, amazing Okay, and.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Then they were the charity when they separated, and now
they're Healthy Humor.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
You're into everything. This is amazing. Really, you're really touching
so many different things. Okay, is there anything we forgot
to talk about? Like anything you want to promote it?
As it pertains to scream or bozo.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Beating America is another charity I do a lot of
work with.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I've worked with Feeding America because we do relief work
and we've we've had for uh for Hurricane Maria. You
were one of the first groups we met with.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
If you ever need any any help in that department.
I love Feeding America. They're a beautiful organization.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, Yeah, because we've met them on tarmacs and brought
food on planes to go to different relief relief zones. Amazing,
so good to meet you and have an amazing day.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Awesome, David. Oh the people you get to meet on
just be That was David Arquette, someone that is my
generation and I've read about him so much and I'm
so lucky that I get to just meet these people
(46:50):
that are people, because the truth is we just think
of them as characters, as headlines, as tabloids, as people's
as characters in movies, and like that's He's a person.
He's a cool person, and now I know him, and
like this has been such an education. I'm just I
don't know, it's just so exciting. Like I read about him,
(47:12):
Like what the hell he had so much going on?
Why would I know about it? I don't know him,
but now I know him. Now you guys know him
and support him. So thank you so much for listening.
Remember to rate, review and subscribe. That was David Arquette.
Very interesting guy.
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