September 26, 2023 • 11 mins
Bethenny rants her way through such high profile as Ben Affleck, Justin Bieber, Jimmy Fallon, Ashton Kutcher and more. Find out who she takes down and who survives.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So I'm obsessed with Ben Affleck and the new Duncan
campaign Ice Spice, Munchkin's drink. Ben Affleck is in his
best error. He's just his Duncan era is his best era.
It's ridiculous and he's leaning into it and he's hysterical
and he so doesn't give a ship but he's never
given a ship. But it's so authentically who he is.
And he gets like he gets to speak to his
(00:32):
Boston boys, like he gets to be running a fucking
Duncan bro Like it's just amazing. And I just I'm
watching it like a TV show. I love Duncan. I
think they're winning. I think it's smart. I'm just so team.
I'm just so about it. I'm just so about it,
and I'm giving you know, it shows why Jennifer Lopez
(00:52):
he's the one who got to win. She's been in
love with him for years, ever since they broke up.
He's like that, like bad boy, high school boy. Ben
doesn't give a good fuck. He's drinking a latte, walking
down the street, being funny, and I'm so team all
of it. I really, really really am. I'm living for it.
So go j Lo, Go Ben, Go duncan Ah, Did
(01:20):
you have a problem with the fact that Justin Bieber
wore pajamas to a Krispy Kream event with Hailey Bieber
when she wore a hot red dress like women were like,
I would break up with my boyfriend if he wore this.
She had an event because I guess of her road
skincare a glazed skin like it's like a glazed donut.
(01:40):
You want that glaze, I get it, Like to make
that like that's like a new look, like that shiny
glaze donut look in skincare. I'm a beauty influencer, obviously
I know what that is. So she had an event
at Krispy Kreme, I get invited to an event. If
I got invited to an event at Krispy Kreme for
Hailey Bieber, I get the As a beauty influencer, I
(02:02):
get the invitation. It says Krispy Green, they sent you donuts,
and you're going in. I would wear a cute pink
sweater because I think it was supposed to be like
strawberry glaze. Maybe they sent out strawberry glaze. I don't know,
something like that. I would wear a cute pink sweater.
Jeans and cute fancy sneakers or like a little heel,
or like a Arima's clog or something like, I'd look cute.
(02:25):
I'd have like a colorful Arima's bag. I'd pink bubblegum
Chanell bag. I'd be like, I'm going to a donut store.
It's so cute. But it's a skincare event. And Justin Moore,
I mean, he wasn't crazy what he wore, but that's
kind of what he does. He does that anyway, So
I don't know. I don't think that he was more
inappropriately dressed than her. I think they were both inappropriately
(02:45):
dressed for the same event. I don't think they were
discussed with each other where they were going, and I
don't think they discussed with themselves where they were going.
(03:06):
Jimmy Fallon workplace Okay, Jimmy Fallon has a talk show.
Rolling Stone did a whole article on the workplace conditions,
separate accounts of their treatment there. They are good Jimmy days,
they are a bad Jimmy days. And we had this
happen with the Ellen Show during the pandemic when everybody
was home not working. Another time, now it's the strike
(03:27):
people are home, not working, and so things are coming out.
Here's all I'll say about Jimmy Fallon. I spoke to
someone very high up in the power of the power
of that show in the very beginning before it aired
(03:47):
that said to me, the only problem that could ever
happen would be Jimmy's party. Okay, like that would be
the thing that could be like the Achilles heel or
I don't know what the right term is. Okay, people
like the boy next door Jimmy and the shucks Jimmy,
et cetera. He's like, you know, the moms love that
cute OUs shuck's boy, Okay, which I agree. Now I
(04:09):
know Jimmy, not like we're best friends. I don't think
I have his phone number on my phone, but I
see him in the Hamptons. I like his wife. His
wife is partners with Drew Barrymore. His wife is nice.
When you see them, they're very pleasant, They're very fun,
They're very genuine. One night I did karaoke with Jimmy
years ago with another friend. I've been on his show
(04:29):
many times. He comes into your dressing room. They have
a book that you signed, but he comes into your
dressing room he greets you. He's really really like animated
and charming in a way that is so nice and
so pleasant for the guest, but seems like it would
be exhausting for the host. Meaning it's very important for
him to be liked and to have a good image
(04:49):
because he's a host and he was taking over the
Tonight Show, and that seems like a lot of wasn't
it the Tonight Show? Jimmy found Tonight Show, Chip and
it seems like a lot of pressure. You're at thirty
Rock and it like a lot of pressure. I also
believe that that any of those shows, I mean there
have been I think there've been. It's document there have
been documentaries on the Late Night Wars. There was a
(05:14):
whole series on like when it was Letterman Versus Leno.
I mean, it's very intense and a lot of pressure,
not unlike the Today Show against Kelly or Gma against
the Today Show. Like it's a very intense place. And also,
mainstream television is a dying breed. So I will say
(05:35):
that if there was improper treatment behind the scenes at
that talk show, that's obviously something to be addressed. I
know that Jimmy apologized. I think he got on a
video or a call and apologize to everyone. And for
some reason, whatever reason that is, I don't think that
(05:55):
Jimmy Fallon should be canceled. Like I from what I've experienced,
and I've met him probably ten to twelve times, ten times,
he's always been very, very kind, and he's always seemed
you know, I asked him to do my podcast. I've
done his show many times. I asked them to do
my podcast. He said to me in person at topping goes,
(06:18):
you don't want me. I don't really do much whatever
I leave, like at the very least, like that was upfront.
He wasn't like, yeah, sure, call my people and then
like it's not gonna happen. I wanted him to say yes,
because I've done his shows, but I need him and
he doesn't need me, like I needed to do his
shows and he doesn't need to do me. But that's
his prerogative and he's upfront. But every experience I've ever
had with Jimmy Fallon has been a positive one. But
(06:38):
it has always been in my mind that it must
be so exhausting to be like so cheery and so
positive and so on on like on and liked and
like a variety show like I've done it, and he's dancing,
and he just you could tell he wants to be
like I just don't know the behind the scenes. I'm
not pretending that I know anything and that and again,
(07:00):
if I learned anything from the Danny Masterson and victims
speaking out, I know that the people who have complained
and been in the article about Jimmy Fallon, I am
airing on the side of them all being valid claims
about the workplace environment and have they been treated. But
I'm betting on Jimmy Fallon to either exit, which I
(07:23):
don't think he'll do. He's not He's not James Cordon
who decided to just leave because of his family and
like move back and didn't want to do it anymore
and left a lot of money on the table. I
don't see Jimmy as that. I see Jimmy as wanting
to entertain. I see Jimmy as like, you know, taking
a hiatus, getting maybe help that he needs or wants,
or can you know, getting maybe maybe some some therapy
(07:47):
or something. I mean, it is a it is a
it is a strike. So they're off anyway. But I
do believe and I didn't see his apology. I didn't
go look at it. Uh. I do believe that whatever
he said and apologize about, I just my every experience
I've ever had with Jimmy Fallon and his wife, I
have enjoyed, particularly the type of hosts he has, And
(08:10):
many of you would also say, oh, well, of course
you're someone and you're famous. He's treating the people in
the background a different way, and I do get I'm
accounting for that as well. There's an energy at all
these different shows. I've been on all of them. There's
a different energy on the Today Show as there is
on GMA. There's a different energy on Kelly and Mark
as there is with Hoda and Jenna. Like, there's a
(08:33):
different energy at all the different shows. So I'm I'm
accounting for that. I don't know what it's like behind
the scenes, and there's no excuse for it. I'm just
saying when I think about it, it's not like I'm like, oh,
my God, couldn't happened to a better person. Like I
think like, oh, the pressure probably really got to him.
He was probably extraordinarily stressed. And the landscape has changed too.
(08:56):
People don't watch TV the same way they used to.
The pressure's there and he doesn't do as well. Ratings
don't do as well, and stand up comics or people
that you know want to perform. They've got to perform,
and there's a sadness inside and you never know what's
going on with someone. So I'm just saying I don't
want to be for cancel culture. And I'm treading lightly
(09:19):
because I don't know everything about the behind the scenes,
and I don't want you to say, oh that you
know that I'm defending someone who was abusive in the workplace,
and I don't need to comment on it, but I
don't know. There was something about it that made me
want to comment on it. I saw a clip. I
talked about it the other day, but I saw that
(09:40):
clip where Ashton Kutcher and Miela were joking about the
fact that she was fourteen and he was nineteen. They
were supposed to kiss in a scene and he and
Danny Masterson plotted for it to be a French kiss.
It was like a bet. I understand that between bros
young bros. I don't understand that between young bros about
a fourteen year old because that's fucking creepy, and I,
(10:03):
as a thirteen year old daughter's mother, I certainly think
it's creepy. But what I really have to keep talking
about is what we're consuming and that it was okay
for the viewers. Back then it was okay for the
viewers that would not be it might you know, it
might be okay Now it might not be okay. But
that's why I fight back when people talk about reality
(10:24):
TV they signed up for What the fuck does that mean?
People don't sign up for things that are wrong, Like,
they don't sign up for things that are wrong, nor
does the production behind. So I just want to keep
talking about what we're consuming, that we're consuming, that we
would that things aren't okay if they're not okay. And
back then, Rosie O'Donnell was sitting right there. Back then,
(10:46):
every night Jay Leno made jokes about things he probably
wasn't supposed to. What are we missing now? What are
we doing now in entertainment that in ten years will
be like, oh my god, I can't believe they were
able to do that. What on reality TV? I can't
believe they were able to abuse someone like that. I
can't believe they were able to force you know, to
get you know, get someone drunk or drug someone. I
can't believe they were able to climb on top of
(11:06):
someone naked. I can't believe, Like, what's the stuff that
we're doing now that we're watching under the guise of
it being entertainment. That won't be okay.
So I'm obsessed with Ben Affleck and the new Duncan
campaign Ice Spice, Munchkin's drink. Ben Affleck is in his
best error. He's just his Duncan era is his best era.
It's ridiculous and he's leaning into it and he's hysterical
and he so doesn't give a ship but he's never
given a ship. But it's so authentically who he is.
And he gets like he gets to speak to his
(00:32):
Boston boys, like he gets to be running a fucking
Duncan bro Like it's just amazing. And I just I'm
watching it like a TV show. I love Duncan. I
think they're winning. I think it's smart. I'm just so team.
I'm just so about it. I'm just so about it,
and I'm giving you know, it shows why Jennifer Lopez
(00:52):
he's the one who got to win. She's been in
love with him for years, ever since they broke up.
He's like that, like bad boy, high school boy. Ben
doesn't give a good fuck. He's drinking a latte, walking
down the street, being funny, and I'm so team all
of it. I really, really really am. I'm living for it.
So go j Lo, Go Ben, Go duncan Ah, Did
(01:20):
you have a problem with the fact that Justin Bieber
wore pajamas to a Krispy Kream event with Hailey Bieber
when she wore a hot red dress like women were like,
I would break up with my boyfriend if he wore this.
She had an event because I guess of her road
skincare a glazed skin like it's like a glazed donut.
(01:40):
You want that glaze, I get it, Like to make
that like that's like a new look, like that shiny
glaze donut look in skincare. I'm a beauty influencer, obviously
I know what that is. So she had an event
at Krispy Kreme, I get invited to an event. If
I got invited to an event at Krispy Kreme for
Hailey Bieber, I get the As a beauty influencer, I
(02:02):
get the invitation. It says Krispy Green, they sent you donuts,
and you're going in. I would wear a cute pink
sweater because I think it was supposed to be like
strawberry glaze. Maybe they sent out strawberry glaze. I don't know,
something like that. I would wear a cute pink sweater.
Jeans and cute fancy sneakers or like a little heel,
or like a Arima's clog or something like, I'd look cute.
(02:25):
I'd have like a colorful Arima's bag. I'd pink bubblegum
Chanell bag. I'd be like, I'm going to a donut store.
It's so cute. But it's a skincare event. And Justin Moore,
I mean, he wasn't crazy what he wore, but that's
kind of what he does. He does that anyway, So
I don't know. I don't think that he was more
inappropriately dressed than her. I think they were both inappropriately
(02:45):
dressed for the same event. I don't think they were
discussed with each other where they were going, and I
don't think they discussed with themselves where they were going.
(03:06):
Jimmy Fallon workplace Okay, Jimmy Fallon has a talk show.
Rolling Stone did a whole article on the workplace conditions,
separate accounts of their treatment there. They are good Jimmy days,
they are a bad Jimmy days. And we had this
happen with the Ellen Show during the pandemic when everybody
was home not working. Another time, now it's the strike
(03:27):
people are home, not working, and so things are coming out.
Here's all I'll say about Jimmy Fallon. I spoke to
someone very high up in the power of the power
of that show in the very beginning before it aired
(03:47):
that said to me, the only problem that could ever
happen would be Jimmy's party. Okay, like that would be
the thing that could be like the Achilles heel or
I don't know what the right term is. Okay, people
like the boy next door Jimmy and the shucks Jimmy,
et cetera. He's like, you know, the moms love that
cute OUs shuck's boy, Okay, which I agree. Now I
(04:09):
know Jimmy, not like we're best friends. I don't think
I have his phone number on my phone, but I
see him in the Hamptons. I like his wife. His
wife is partners with Drew Barrymore. His wife is nice.
When you see them, they're very pleasant, They're very fun,
They're very genuine. One night I did karaoke with Jimmy
years ago with another friend. I've been on his show
(04:29):
many times. He comes into your dressing room. They have
a book that you signed, but he comes into your
dressing room he greets you. He's really really like animated
and charming in a way that is so nice and
so pleasant for the guest, but seems like it would
be exhausting for the host. Meaning it's very important for
him to be liked and to have a good image
(04:49):
because he's a host and he was taking over the
Tonight Show, and that seems like a lot of wasn't
it the Tonight Show? Jimmy found Tonight Show, Chip and
it seems like a lot of pressure. You're at thirty
Rock and it like a lot of pressure. I also
believe that that any of those shows, I mean there
have been I think there've been. It's document there have
been documentaries on the Late Night Wars. There was a
(05:14):
whole series on like when it was Letterman Versus Leno.
I mean, it's very intense and a lot of pressure,
not unlike the Today Show against Kelly or Gma against
the Today Show. Like it's a very intense place. And also,
mainstream television is a dying breed. So I will say
(05:35):
that if there was improper treatment behind the scenes at
that talk show, that's obviously something to be addressed. I
know that Jimmy apologized. I think he got on a
video or a call and apologize to everyone. And for
some reason, whatever reason that is, I don't think that
(05:55):
Jimmy Fallon should be canceled. Like I from what I've experienced,
and I've met him probably ten to twelve times, ten times,
he's always been very, very kind, and he's always seemed
you know, I asked him to do my podcast. I've
done his show many times. I asked them to do
my podcast. He said to me in person at topping goes,
(06:18):
you don't want me. I don't really do much whatever
I leave, like at the very least, like that was upfront.
He wasn't like, yeah, sure, call my people and then
like it's not gonna happen. I wanted him to say yes,
because I've done his shows, but I need him and
he doesn't need me, like I needed to do his
shows and he doesn't need to do me. But that's
his prerogative and he's upfront. But every experience I've ever
had with Jimmy Fallon has been a positive one. But
(06:38):
it has always been in my mind that it must
be so exhausting to be like so cheery and so
positive and so on on like on and liked and
like a variety show like I've done it, and he's dancing,
and he just you could tell he wants to be
like I just don't know the behind the scenes. I'm
not pretending that I know anything and that and again,
(07:00):
if I learned anything from the Danny Masterson and victims
speaking out, I know that the people who have complained
and been in the article about Jimmy Fallon, I am
airing on the side of them all being valid claims
about the workplace environment and have they been treated. But
I'm betting on Jimmy Fallon to either exit, which I
(07:23):
don't think he'll do. He's not He's not James Cordon
who decided to just leave because of his family and
like move back and didn't want to do it anymore
and left a lot of money on the table. I
don't see Jimmy as that. I see Jimmy as wanting
to entertain. I see Jimmy as like, you know, taking
a hiatus, getting maybe help that he needs or wants,
or can you know, getting maybe maybe some some therapy
(07:47):
or something. I mean, it is a it is a
it is a strike. So they're off anyway. But I
do believe and I didn't see his apology. I didn't
go look at it. Uh. I do believe that whatever
he said and apologize about, I just my every experience
I've ever had with Jimmy Fallon and his wife, I
have enjoyed, particularly the type of hosts he has, And
(08:10):
many of you would also say, oh, well, of course
you're someone and you're famous. He's treating the people in
the background a different way, and I do get I'm
accounting for that as well. There's an energy at all
these different shows. I've been on all of them. There's
a different energy on the Today Show as there is
on GMA. There's a different energy on Kelly and Mark
as there is with Hoda and Jenna. Like, there's a
(08:33):
different energy at all the different shows. So I'm I'm
accounting for that. I don't know what it's like behind
the scenes, and there's no excuse for it. I'm just
saying when I think about it, it's not like I'm like, oh,
my God, couldn't happened to a better person. Like I
think like, oh, the pressure probably really got to him.
He was probably extraordinarily stressed. And the landscape has changed too.
(08:56):
People don't watch TV the same way they used to.
The pressure's there and he doesn't do as well. Ratings
don't do as well, and stand up comics or people
that you know want to perform. They've got to perform,
and there's a sadness inside and you never know what's
going on with someone. So I'm just saying I don't
want to be for cancel culture. And I'm treading lightly
(09:19):
because I don't know everything about the behind the scenes,
and I don't want you to say, oh that you
know that I'm defending someone who was abusive in the workplace,
and I don't need to comment on it, but I
don't know. There was something about it that made me
want to comment on it. I saw a clip. I
talked about it the other day, but I saw that
(09:40):
clip where Ashton Kutcher and Miela were joking about the
fact that she was fourteen and he was nineteen. They
were supposed to kiss in a scene and he and
Danny Masterson plotted for it to be a French kiss.
It was like a bet. I understand that between bros
young bros. I don't understand that between young bros about
a fourteen year old because that's fucking creepy, and I,
(10:03):
as a thirteen year old daughter's mother, I certainly think
it's creepy. But what I really have to keep talking
about is what we're consuming and that it was okay
for the viewers. Back then it was okay for the
viewers that would not be it might you know, it
might be okay Now it might not be okay. But
that's why I fight back when people talk about reality
(10:24):
TV they signed up for What the fuck does that mean?
People don't sign up for things that are wrong, Like,
they don't sign up for things that are wrong, nor
does the production behind. So I just want to keep
talking about what we're consuming, that we're consuming, that we
would that things aren't okay if they're not okay. And
back then, Rosie O'Donnell was sitting right there. Back then,
(10:46):
every night Jay Leno made jokes about things he probably
wasn't supposed to. What are we missing now? What are
we doing now in entertainment that in ten years will
be like, oh my god, I can't believe they were
able to do that. What on reality TV? I can't
believe they were able to abuse someone like that. I
can't believe they were able to force you know, to
get you know, get someone drunk or drug someone. I
can't believe they were able to climb on top of
(11:06):
someone naked. I can't believe, Like, what's the stuff that
we're doing now that we're watching under the guise of
it being entertainment. That won't be okay.
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