October 30, 2023 • 16 mins
Bethenny shares her thoughts on the sudden passing of Matthew Perry.
Then, she rants about the BIG Vanity Fair article that came out about her.
Plus, what in the world is going down in NYC with Bethenny?!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
So the reality reckoning. There is an article that just
came out in Vanity Fair. A writer named Ann Appeal
is writing about what she calls a small corner in
this issue of the toxicity and reality TV, and the
article basically is through highlighting Ebonie Williams Leah, a little
(00:35):
bit about me, a little bit about Jill, a little
bit about Sonya, a lot about Bravo and it's production companies,
specifically Shed Media, who produced New York Housewives, a lot
about that production company and how women's mental health and
addiction and drinking and just their rights are violated and
(00:58):
not really valued, and that Bravo is trying to now
all of a sudden, like close up holes in a
boat that have been there for decades, to clean up
a mess that is getting out of control with this reckoning.
People in the comments will say to me what they've said,
You bit the hand that feeds you. Now you're not
profiting off this machine, so you want off, so you
(01:19):
want to take it down. I could have been profiting.
I walked away from a reality show that I had
that was basically greenlit this year. I walked away. I
have all the receipts, so to my lawyers, and I
walked away from the show. So you could tell me
a million times that I profited off of this. True,
you could tell me that I was part of this,
as I said in the article. True, you can't tell
(01:39):
me that I'm trying to take down something because I
couldn't monetize it. Because I could have gone back anytime
I wanted. I was invited to go back anytime I wanted.
That's a fact. So come for me. But you can't
land it. If you're going to take a shot at
this bee, you better not miss. You cannot land it.
And the thing is a lot these women in this article,
whether it's Ebony or Leah, really Leah. Leah came in
(02:00):
fragile with challenges. She came in wu a little bit
wounded and this took her out. And there are other
people in this franchise, like Brandy, like Danielle, like others
who have gone through different traumas, divorces, like a Camille,
people that this medium really really profits off of and
(02:27):
capitalizes and exploits the really vulnerable aspects in someone's life.
Like this person's coming in. They're teetering on falling off
the wagon. So let's push her. Let's let's let that
will be the most entertaining, or this person's a train
wreck going through a divorce and they just got cheated on,
so let's exploit that. You know, it's not like an
(02:50):
environment that builds women up. It's an environment that really
could push you off the edge, or could really empower
someone like me who could clean up the floor with
all these women, you know, like I was part of it,
and as the article says, I guess this might be
part of my penance and about this reality reckoning. Now
(03:14):
you have a lot of housewives coming out and awkwardly
speaking for the realm. You have Leah Black who acted
like she didn't understand what I was talking about in
doing this. Luanne who also she's had a wonderful, pleasant
experience and nothing's ever gone wrong, you know, like not
like when they exploited her affairs, or when she went
(03:36):
to jail, or when she was drinking, or when that
was all on the show, or when people like Candy
who are currently employed there saying if there was something
wrong that they did to her. She's a strong woman.
She can handle herself, and she would say something. Erica
Jane saying something very similar. These women aren't helping other women.
They all know what we're talking about. We've all seen it.
(03:57):
And when the music turns on us and it's bad
for us, that's when we get really upset, or when
Sonya's taking pills, or when Raquel's go into an emotional
health facility. Like only when the music turns really bad
on you do you then feel what I'm talking about.
But if you could turn it back and get the
mute and get the shit to slap on somebody else,
(04:20):
and then you can make more money. You don't want
to betray the realm and the leaders of this cult
because you want to make the money, to come out publicly,
to act like they don't know this is happening. It's
not true. And I applaud the women who have publicly
said that this is important. The Gina from I Think
It's Orange County, Garcel Bouvey currently employed by them, Cynthia
(04:44):
Bailey often employed by them, like I give them credit
for speaking up, Kathy Wakeuiel commenting on my posts and
then Anniny leaks, Jill Zarn coming on the podcast, and
I applaud a number of people who've called me quietly
to discuss what's going on with the and to want
help and to say I know I've been perpetuating this,
(05:05):
and I know I'm part of it, and I feel
like a hypocrite and I'm scared, but I want to talk.
I give them a lot of credit. You cannot expect
everybody to come forward, but for people to come forward
and proactively act like they don't know what's going on,
that can be damaging. And Arianna did a post saying
like I did a special post at US Weekly, posted
(05:27):
about how production only pays for the first two drinks
and really being like a good Bravo soldier in coming
out to basically make it like vander pumpt Rules has
not been fueled by alcohol and fueled by scandal and affairs.
You know. I mean, we can't close our eyes, but
it doesn't mean it's not happening. Also on the group
(05:49):
of people that acted like nothing's going on, as Kate Chastain,
there's a theme if you're making money on this medium
and profiting from this realm, you're one of the few
people acting like you don't know that this is going on.
(06:14):
Matthew Perry passed away. He is another one who's around
my age. I watched the first episode of Friends. I
remember it, and they were part of our vernacular, our culture.
It was such a ground sweeping, iconic success. Jennifer Aniston
(06:38):
was all of us. I'm watching her now on the
Morning show also, and I'm watching her some of my age.
And I've watched Matthew. I've watched Matthew Perry's journey because
I know that he had a jet ski accident, got
involved in painkillers. I've experienced people who have passed away
(06:59):
allegedly because of pain killers and naracan and overdoses and
things like that, and it's a struggle, it's a battle.
God knows what happened that night, but he played pickaball
for two hours and he was in a jacuzzi and
got overheated. And I mentioned this because as we get older,
we're not as indestructible and we're more vulnerable. And I've
(07:19):
had autoimmune issues. I've had pots pots, this thing that
many of you educated me on, and I was looking
it up. What happens to me personally is I get
really dehydrated. I have to constantly drink hydration drinks, and
my blood pressure will crash and I'll faint and I've
been in a cryo tank and I've fainted, hit the
(07:40):
bottom of the tank, like passed out. I've been in
a sauna. I don't do this anymore. And my favorite
thing is to do sauna and steam and I have
one and I don't even use it because I've been
in esteem and then come out and then two hours
later I faint at dinner, thinking it's because of an
allergic reaction, but it's because, you know, my blood pressure
has crash, and so you have to know your body.
(08:02):
And apparently he was on heart medication. I'm sure he's
weakened his heart over all the damage he's done. You know,
our hearts are fragile, Our bodies are fragile. We beat
them up and we party and we drink and do
drugs and eat steak and drink sugar and don't sleep.
And you know the young kids are just beating down
their bodies. It's glamorized to pound alcohol. It's glamorized to
(08:23):
not get sleep. It's glamorized to black out and do
an all nighter. And like, we only have one body.
And the sadness about him healing and recovering and it's
saving his life. And the poor guy is just playing pickleball.
And so then he's in a jacuzzi which is so hot,
and I'm thinking about he's probably dehydrated. I look this up.
Dehydration can weaken your heart. He passed out and he died,
(08:47):
and it's just so terribly sad. He was so funny,
he seemed so nice. He came out with this amazing
book to really talk about his addiction and how it
changed his life to be sober. And people who are
sober say that that's their number one. It's before family,
it's before money, it's before work, it's before God, it's
(09:09):
before anything. It's what you have. And so I guess
that should just be a message, you know, how we
treat our bodies. And it's just so fucking sad. It's
just so tragic and so sad. It really is, because
it sucks, and it's frustrating when you hear of somebody
finally like doing the work and getting to the place
and then the goddamn guide dies in a fucking jacuzzie
(09:31):
after a pickleball. It's just like not fair. There's this
mural that this person Eternal Possessions put on the side
of a building in the West Village and so many
(09:55):
people sent it to me. It's called mention it All.
Apparently this mural artist was on reality shows for years
in production, was totally abused. It ruined their life, and
they were just putting this up as a message to
honor and acknowledge and empower the reality reckoning. And I
just didn't feel worthy. I just felt really moving. And
(10:18):
it was on this crazy week of mine where I
rang the Nasdaq closing bell. Things move so quickly, and
things are just little pieces on the board, little marks
on the calendar, and not until I get to them
do I realized, Wait a second, when was the last
time I stopped and really celebrated something that's happening. I'm
on three pages of Vanity Fair photographs of me, and
(10:40):
it's just like I read it to make sure what
it said, and then I move on to like what
I'm doing about it. But let's just like sit for
a moment and think about the fact that for years,
all I would want was to be in Vanity Fair.
That's like credible, and all I want is to be
on SNL, like that's my dream life. And yes, I've
(11:02):
been mentioned and that's been never lost to me, that's
one thing I always do revel in. But I go
this week to do the closing bell, and I had
said to Brinn that she should come because it's super important.
And then at the last minute, I said, you know,
you have math and I know school is hard right now,
and you don't have to come. And I got down.
I got to Times Square and I was by myself
(11:22):
ringing the bell on behalf of be Strong, and there
were lights everywhere I could see Times Square, the windows
were open. I was with a few people from my
PR team, and I then got exasperated because Brent's school
is like thirty five minutes from there, and I was
trying to rush and I wanted her to then come
because she would have loved it. It was really her too.
You know when you taste something and you're just like,
(11:43):
I want you to taste this. It's so good. I
can't enjoy it unless you taste it. I want you
to see this. I can't enjoy it unless you see it.
So I was having hard time enjoying it. Paul wasn't
bust and I didn't ask him to come. He you know,
he he would have absolutely come, and I was not.
I was like exactly, it felt like New Year's even
Times Square, and I just wanted my daughter to get
to me, and I missed her in the crowd, and
(12:05):
then she was freaking out because she was feeling guilty
and she was realizing how big it was. And I
was sending her pictures and she was texting my assistant,
and I wasn't present. I wasn't paying attention to what
was going on. I was acting like I was paying attention,
but inside my body, I was like, oh my god,
I'm alone and I'm doing this alone, and I wish
my daughter was here, and I was just having displaced anxiety.
It was not proportional to what was happening. It was
(12:26):
like my whole life gathered and crystallized in this one moment.
But then I also had unleashed something. So she was
trying to get to me, So she was going to
get in the car and go the opposite direction to
Times Square when we were going to after this, go
all the way back uptown to get her to leave
the city. So I was then preoccupied by that. My
assistant was trying to take pictures of me trying to
(12:48):
talk to Brinn. I was trying to be present. I
was trying to listen to what the people were saying there.
And I get up and the can explodes and it's
all this confetti and all these people are cheering because
and then we're in Times Square and my name and
name or in this giant much bigger than billboard because
it goes the whole side of a building. And it's
like the culmination of his career. And I didn't even
make a big deal enough about it even to invite
(13:09):
people I work with or share it with anyone. I
was just like, didn't want to inundate anyone or pose
to come to Times Square. And when it was done,
I I crumbled. I broke down. I cried for hours.
When I mean, it took me out. I was having anxiety,
(13:32):
I couldn't sleep, my eyes were swollen. It took me
out for two days. I just I said it was
the closing bell, but it was a wake up call.
It was just like, let's make meaning out of things.
I felt so entirely alone. I've always been an insular person.
I've always been someone who just likes to be alone
and processes alone and id eights alone and works alone.
(13:55):
And I, you know, I just it just really hit me.
It was extremely bad, powerful. And this guy who's on
the stock market, I think he's in the New York
Stock Exchange. His Instagram is something like Einstein of Einstein
of Wall Street, and he reached out. He said, he went,
he's been on Wall Street for years and he's like
(14:15):
a little fame. He's got one hundred and something thousand followers,
and I guess he had a picture of me when
I came to the Stock Exchange to do I think
it was Cheddar or a show, and he messaged me
and he said I had the exact same experience. It
was like a culmination of my career and only certain
people get to ring the bell and they gave me
the honor, and he said I felt entirely alone, and
(14:36):
he was like, I'd love to do a duover for
you with you, and it was just like really sweet,
even just him reaching out. And then my good friends
reached out, people I work with, like a lot of
people were like I would have comment. It was just
really meaningful. I just wasn't ready to talk right away,
and now I've started to connect people about it. It was
sort of embarrassing and it was like just like a loser.
It was extremely me, you know, so dramatic. So what
(15:02):
I want to say is there were many people that
reached out. Many moms are reached out saying we strip ourselves,
we do for everybody else, and we don't take time
to celebrate and you are worthy. And they're saying that
they are worthy. And because I don't know if I
felt worthy, I don't. Sometimes it feels like it's all
you know, the Emperor has no closed imposter syndrome. It
(15:25):
wasn't happening at that moment. But just overall, thank you
to all the people that reached out to me and
felt that. And I don't want them to feel it
for me. I want them to feel it for them.
I shared it on social media and not because I
need them to feel it for me. They were feeling
it for themselves, like they were feeling it in their
own lives and they needed it. And that's the beautiful
(15:45):
power of social media when you can help someone who
really needed it in their own life because they don't
feel alone. So while I spend a lot of time alone,
when there's these big things that I really feel and think,
I do want to share them because I want people
to feel not alone and women are so powerful and
never before have I been connecting to women so strongly, frankly,
since I left the show. The show of housewives, when
(16:06):
you're surrounded by women, is the worst environment to support
other women. It's not designed for that. It's designed to
protect yourself, fight for your own and not embrace other women.
And since leaving, I'm this leader for all these women
that call me every day crying and texting and need
support and need help. That reality reckoning is that the
environment of Bravo has broken so many women down that
(16:29):
already were on their way out. They walked and they're
broken down, thinking this was going to lift them up,
and this took them out of the knees even lower.
And now they're trying to make sense of it and
pick up the pieces
So the reality reckoning. There is an article that just
came out in Vanity Fair. A writer named Ann Appeal
is writing about what she calls a small corner in
this issue of the toxicity and reality TV, and the
article basically is through highlighting Ebonie Williams Leah, a little
(00:35):
bit about me, a little bit about Jill, a little
bit about Sonya, a lot about Bravo and it's production companies,
specifically Shed Media, who produced New York Housewives, a lot
about that production company and how women's mental health and
addiction and drinking and just their rights are violated and
(00:58):
not really valued, and that Bravo is trying to now
all of a sudden, like close up holes in a
boat that have been there for decades, to clean up
a mess that is getting out of control with this reckoning.
People in the comments will say to me what they've said,
You bit the hand that feeds you. Now you're not
profiting off this machine, so you want off, so you
(01:19):
want to take it down. I could have been profiting.
I walked away from a reality show that I had
that was basically greenlit this year. I walked away. I
have all the receipts, so to my lawyers, and I
walked away from the show. So you could tell me
a million times that I profited off of this. True,
you could tell me that I was part of this,
as I said in the article. True, you can't tell
(01:39):
me that I'm trying to take down something because I
couldn't monetize it. Because I could have gone back anytime
I wanted. I was invited to go back anytime I wanted.
That's a fact. So come for me. But you can't
land it. If you're going to take a shot at
this bee, you better not miss. You cannot land it.
And the thing is a lot these women in this article,
whether it's Ebony or Leah, really Leah. Leah came in
(02:00):
fragile with challenges. She came in wu a little bit
wounded and this took her out. And there are other
people in this franchise, like Brandy, like Danielle, like others
who have gone through different traumas, divorces, like a Camille,
people that this medium really really profits off of and
(02:27):
capitalizes and exploits the really vulnerable aspects in someone's life.
Like this person's coming in. They're teetering on falling off
the wagon. So let's push her. Let's let's let that
will be the most entertaining, or this person's a train
wreck going through a divorce and they just got cheated on,
so let's exploit that. You know, it's not like an
(02:50):
environment that builds women up. It's an environment that really
could push you off the edge, or could really empower
someone like me who could clean up the floor with
all these women, you know, like I was part of it,
and as the article says, I guess this might be
part of my penance and about this reality reckoning. Now
(03:14):
you have a lot of housewives coming out and awkwardly
speaking for the realm. You have Leah Black who acted
like she didn't understand what I was talking about in
doing this. Luanne who also she's had a wonderful, pleasant
experience and nothing's ever gone wrong, you know, like not
like when they exploited her affairs, or when she went
(03:36):
to jail, or when she was drinking, or when that
was all on the show, or when people like Candy
who are currently employed there saying if there was something
wrong that they did to her. She's a strong woman.
She can handle herself, and she would say something. Erica
Jane saying something very similar. These women aren't helping other women.
They all know what we're talking about. We've all seen it.
(03:57):
And when the music turns on us and it's bad
for us, that's when we get really upset, or when
Sonya's taking pills, or when Raquel's go into an emotional
health facility. Like only when the music turns really bad
on you do you then feel what I'm talking about.
But if you could turn it back and get the
mute and get the shit to slap on somebody else,
(04:20):
and then you can make more money. You don't want
to betray the realm and the leaders of this cult
because you want to make the money, to come out publicly,
to act like they don't know this is happening. It's
not true. And I applaud the women who have publicly
said that this is important. The Gina from I Think
It's Orange County, Garcel Bouvey currently employed by them, Cynthia
(04:44):
Bailey often employed by them, like I give them credit
for speaking up, Kathy Wakeuiel commenting on my posts and
then Anniny leaks, Jill Zarn coming on the podcast, and
I applaud a number of people who've called me quietly
to discuss what's going on with the and to want
help and to say I know I've been perpetuating this,
(05:05):
and I know I'm part of it, and I feel
like a hypocrite and I'm scared, but I want to talk.
I give them a lot of credit. You cannot expect
everybody to come forward, but for people to come forward
and proactively act like they don't know what's going on,
that can be damaging. And Arianna did a post saying
like I did a special post at US Weekly, posted
(05:27):
about how production only pays for the first two drinks
and really being like a good Bravo soldier in coming
out to basically make it like vander pumpt Rules has
not been fueled by alcohol and fueled by scandal and affairs.
You know. I mean, we can't close our eyes, but
it doesn't mean it's not happening. Also on the group
(05:49):
of people that acted like nothing's going on, as Kate Chastain,
there's a theme if you're making money on this medium
and profiting from this realm, you're one of the few
people acting like you don't know that this is going on.
(06:14):
Matthew Perry passed away. He is another one who's around
my age. I watched the first episode of Friends. I
remember it, and they were part of our vernacular, our culture.
It was such a ground sweeping, iconic success. Jennifer Aniston
(06:38):
was all of us. I'm watching her now on the
Morning show also, and I'm watching her some of my age.
And I've watched Matthew. I've watched Matthew Perry's journey because
I know that he had a jet ski accident, got
involved in painkillers. I've experienced people who have passed away
(06:59):
allegedly because of pain killers and naracan and overdoses and
things like that, and it's a struggle, it's a battle.
God knows what happened that night, but he played pickaball
for two hours and he was in a jacuzzi and
got overheated. And I mentioned this because as we get older,
we're not as indestructible and we're more vulnerable. And I've
(07:19):
had autoimmune issues. I've had pots pots, this thing that
many of you educated me on, and I was looking
it up. What happens to me personally is I get
really dehydrated. I have to constantly drink hydration drinks, and
my blood pressure will crash and I'll faint and I've
been in a cryo tank and I've fainted, hit the
(07:40):
bottom of the tank, like passed out. I've been in
a sauna. I don't do this anymore. And my favorite
thing is to do sauna and steam and I have
one and I don't even use it because I've been
in esteem and then come out and then two hours
later I faint at dinner, thinking it's because of an
allergic reaction, but it's because, you know, my blood pressure
has crash, and so you have to know your body.
(08:02):
And apparently he was on heart medication. I'm sure he's
weakened his heart over all the damage he's done. You know,
our hearts are fragile, Our bodies are fragile. We beat
them up and we party and we drink and do
drugs and eat steak and drink sugar and don't sleep.
And you know the young kids are just beating down
their bodies. It's glamorized to pound alcohol. It's glamorized to
(08:23):
not get sleep. It's glamorized to black out and do
an all nighter. And like, we only have one body.
And the sadness about him healing and recovering and it's
saving his life. And the poor guy is just playing pickleball.
And so then he's in a jacuzzi which is so hot,
and I'm thinking about he's probably dehydrated. I look this up.
Dehydration can weaken your heart. He passed out and he died,
(08:47):
and it's just so terribly sad. He was so funny,
he seemed so nice. He came out with this amazing
book to really talk about his addiction and how it
changed his life to be sober. And people who are
sober say that that's their number one. It's before family,
it's before money, it's before work, it's before God, it's
(09:09):
before anything. It's what you have. And so I guess
that should just be a message, you know, how we
treat our bodies. And it's just so fucking sad. It's
just so tragic and so sad. It really is, because
it sucks, and it's frustrating when you hear of somebody
finally like doing the work and getting to the place
and then the goddamn guide dies in a fucking jacuzzie
(09:31):
after a pickleball. It's just like not fair. There's this
mural that this person Eternal Possessions put on the side
of a building in the West Village and so many
(09:55):
people sent it to me. It's called mention it All.
Apparently this mural artist was on reality shows for years
in production, was totally abused. It ruined their life, and
they were just putting this up as a message to
honor and acknowledge and empower the reality reckoning. And I
just didn't feel worthy. I just felt really moving. And
(10:18):
it was on this crazy week of mine where I
rang the Nasdaq closing bell. Things move so quickly, and
things are just little pieces on the board, little marks
on the calendar, and not until I get to them
do I realized, Wait a second, when was the last
time I stopped and really celebrated something that's happening. I'm
on three pages of Vanity Fair photographs of me, and
(10:40):
it's just like I read it to make sure what
it said, and then I move on to like what
I'm doing about it. But let's just like sit for
a moment and think about the fact that for years,
all I would want was to be in Vanity Fair.
That's like credible, and all I want is to be
on SNL, like that's my dream life. And yes, I've
(11:02):
been mentioned and that's been never lost to me, that's
one thing I always do revel in. But I go
this week to do the closing bell, and I had
said to Brinn that she should come because it's super important.
And then at the last minute, I said, you know,
you have math and I know school is hard right now,
and you don't have to come. And I got down.
I got to Times Square and I was by myself
(11:22):
ringing the bell on behalf of be Strong, and there
were lights everywhere I could see Times Square, the windows
were open. I was with a few people from my
PR team, and I then got exasperated because Brent's school
is like thirty five minutes from there, and I was
trying to rush and I wanted her to then come
because she would have loved it. It was really her too.
You know when you taste something and you're just like,
(11:43):
I want you to taste this. It's so good. I
can't enjoy it unless you taste it. I want you
to see this. I can't enjoy it unless you see it.
So I was having hard time enjoying it. Paul wasn't
bust and I didn't ask him to come. He you know,
he he would have absolutely come, and I was not.
I was like exactly, it felt like New Year's even
Times Square, and I just wanted my daughter to get
to me, and I missed her in the crowd, and
(12:05):
then she was freaking out because she was feeling guilty
and she was realizing how big it was. And I
was sending her pictures and she was texting my assistant,
and I wasn't present. I wasn't paying attention to what
was going on. I was acting like I was paying attention,
but inside my body, I was like, oh my god,
I'm alone and I'm doing this alone, and I wish
my daughter was here, and I was just having displaced anxiety.
It was not proportional to what was happening. It was
(12:26):
like my whole life gathered and crystallized in this one moment.
But then I also had unleashed something. So she was
trying to get to me, So she was going to
get in the car and go the opposite direction to
Times Square when we were going to after this, go
all the way back uptown to get her to leave
the city. So I was then preoccupied by that. My
assistant was trying to take pictures of me trying to
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talk to Brinn. I was trying to be present. I
was trying to listen to what the people were saying there.
And I get up and the can explodes and it's
all this confetti and all these people are cheering because
and then we're in Times Square and my name and
name or in this giant much bigger than billboard because
it goes the whole side of a building. And it's
like the culmination of his career. And I didn't even
make a big deal enough about it even to invite
(13:09):
people I work with or share it with anyone. I
was just like, didn't want to inundate anyone or pose
to come to Times Square. And when it was done,
I I crumbled. I broke down. I cried for hours.
When I mean, it took me out. I was having anxiety,
(13:32):
I couldn't sleep, my eyes were swollen. It took me
out for two days. I just I said it was
the closing bell, but it was a wake up call.
It was just like, let's make meaning out of things.
I felt so entirely alone. I've always been an insular person.
I've always been someone who just likes to be alone
and processes alone and id eights alone and works alone.
(13:55):
And I, you know, I just it just really hit me.
It was extremely bad, powerful. And this guy who's on
the stock market, I think he's in the New York
Stock Exchange. His Instagram is something like Einstein of Einstein
of Wall Street, and he reached out. He said, he went,
he's been on Wall Street for years and he's like
(14:15):
a little fame. He's got one hundred and something thousand followers,
and I guess he had a picture of me when
I came to the Stock Exchange to do I think
it was Cheddar or a show, and he messaged me
and he said I had the exact same experience. It
was like a culmination of my career and only certain
people get to ring the bell and they gave me
the honor, and he said I felt entirely alone, and
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he was like, I'd love to do a duover for
you with you, and it was just like really sweet,
even just him reaching out. And then my good friends
reached out, people I work with, like a lot of
people were like I would have comment. It was just
really meaningful. I just wasn't ready to talk right away,
and now I've started to connect people about it. It was
sort of embarrassing and it was like just like a loser.
It was extremely me, you know, so dramatic. So what
(15:02):
I want to say is there were many people that
reached out. Many moms are reached out saying we strip ourselves,
we do for everybody else, and we don't take time
to celebrate and you are worthy. And they're saying that
they are worthy. And because I don't know if I
felt worthy, I don't. Sometimes it feels like it's all
you know, the Emperor has no closed imposter syndrome. It
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wasn't happening at that moment. But just overall, thank you
to all the people that reached out to me and
felt that. And I don't want them to feel it
for me. I want them to feel it for them.
I shared it on social media and not because I
need them to feel it for me. They were feeling
it for themselves, like they were feeling it in their
own lives and they needed it. And that's the beautiful
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power of social media when you can help someone who
really needed it in their own life because they don't
feel alone. So while I spend a lot of time alone,
when there's these big things that I really feel and think,
I do want to share them because I want people
to feel not alone and women are so powerful and
never before have I been connecting to women so strongly, frankly,
since I left the show. The show of housewives, when
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you're surrounded by women, is the worst environment to support
other women. It's not designed for that. It's designed to
protect yourself, fight for your own and not embrace other women.
And since leaving, I'm this leader for all these women
that call me every day crying and texting and need
support and need help. That reality reckoning is that the
environment of Bravo has broken so many women down that
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already were on their way out. They walked and they're
broken down, thinking this was going to lift them up,
and this took them out of the knees even lower.
And now they're trying to make sense of it and
pick up the pieces
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