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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So this is like the Lorial Midnight Cream video I did,
only the podcast edition. I've got two stunning supermodel dogs
and we're on me wearing Tory Bark sweatshirts. I have
a caviar sweatshirt. I have not brushed my teeth, but
I have not gotten dressed. I've been stressed and moving
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and I'm dehydrated as fuck. And that's actually bad. When
I get really dehydrated, it gets bad, like I go
too far and then I got a headache and my
body aches. I'm a fucking mess. Let's just put it
that way. My friend Mark, Hi, Mark, Mark's definitely listening.
He just said to me. He called me, and I
was like, I gotta go. I'm walking into the podcast.
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I said. I'm standing here in a caviar sweatshirt, have
brush my teeth yet, but this podcast that you love,
I'm walking into right now. He goes, well, you're the
Jackson Pollock of podcasts. You just what with a minute?
You want to paint? You have to paint. So I
guess right now is when I'm going to paint. Okay,
So let's discuss a couple of things. First, gay men
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are a different breed in the last twelve hours, two
different gay men have told me different activities as it
pertains to furniture. So one of my friends told me
that they had to let me know about this f
one event that I was going to invite them to,
which is a coveted ticket that I can bring one
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person and people would pay thousands of dollars to get
to go. And he said he's probably going to be
able to make it, but he has to let me
know because there's a rug he ordered coming in from Catman.
Do Catman, do you know my rugs are coming in
from fucking either rugs dot com? Actually, I do have
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some stark rugs because that's elite. I can't wait till
they get peed on and then I have to call
him crying and like I have to get another one
and ask for friends and faimily discount or My other
thing that I do is when I buy a rug
this is a rich person's bullshit thing, I get two
because I know these fucking beasts are gonna pee on it.
But anyway, my friend is getting back to me because
he's got to get a rug from Catman. Do are
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you a fucking that is like such a gay eighties
thing like guys, everything's made in the same fucking places.
I don't know is there, but I don't know, all right,
so let's just not judge him. He is a rug
from Catman do I used to have seventy Arama's bags,
so he can judge me too. Catman don't Catman do's
and don't then my other friend, Yeah, catman, he's not
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a catman or a dog man because one animal near
that rug. I don't think I'm ever going over to
his house. I really don't. I don't want to, like
a little little shard of like candy coated Swedish candy
and Christmas is canceled. I don't want to go there,
never bringing my dogs. I don't know their dog passed
away sadly years ago, but this is probably why they
can now have a Catman do rug. My other gay friend.
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And by the way, I'm selling my house what I
designed with my rugs from these websites, and I'm selling
it for double what I paid. And these guys have
never sold the house for double what they paid. Is
that true? Yes? But over years, over like tens of years.
So I'm going with my model. I'm going with my model,
because it's not like, oh I didn't get the Catman
do rug and like that is why my house never
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like increased in value because I'm a cheap fuck. But
as I've said to you before, I'm designing it. Oh,
I have to tell you another story, all right? Hold on.
So my second friend Mark, the one who listens to
this podcast and says, I'm the Jackson Pollock of podcasts
because I have to like paint when I want to paint,
whether I brush my teeth or not. He just said
to me that he was near the airport he had
to dry. I wasn't even paying attention. It was scot
so convoluted, but like something about bought two chairs at auction,
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then had to wanted to go to get them recovered,
and then was driving to go pick them up like children,
like a carpool for car. I was like, are you
fucking kidding me? The other gay that lives down the
street from you last night was waiting for a Catman
do flight. It's like a breeder dog. It's like, we
want rescue dogs, not breeder dogs. We want rescue rugs.
Like he's fucking at the airport waiting for a breeder rug.
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Right now, like people are fucking crazy, including myself, So
let me get into my story. So I'm moving, as
you know, and two things are happening. One is people
like to play fuck around and find out with me,
and fewer people play it, but people still want in
a while play it, and they do fucking find out,
whether it's today or ten years from today, they fucking
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find out. So this thing was, I've done probably ten renovations,
and you would think everyone thinks that, like she's famous
or she's rich or whatever people think of me. It's
hard to even know Skinny Girl Forbes Magazine that I
don't pay attention. Okay, now I don't pay every attention
to every single thing, but I'm very good at understanding price,
like what something should act actually cost. I actually fucked
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up when I was on the apprentice on QVC because
I knew the price to begin with, but I second
guessed myself because what we should charge because I didn't
I underestimated the wealth of the QVC customer at the time.
But anyway, because their number one zip codes at the
time were Beverly Hills and Upper east Side, I did
not know that. But I'm very good at like what
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something should cost. I'm also a guard rails all in person.
I've learned my lesson. Okay, someone right now is trying
to play fuck around and find out. They got a
permit for a pool for me for a house and
been working on the permits at the city and it
takes a year and it's a hard thing. Twenty thousand dollars.
This has nothing to do with the pool, just the permits.
Another company took a deposit to do the pool. We
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did some drawings, but we never did the pool. Thirty
three thousand. They want to keep that and not give
it back, like, okay, fuck around, find out, so keeping
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it moving. I told the designer for this new house
that I bought what my budget was, and this is
a much bigger budget than I would proportionally to what
this house needs. Meaning in the Hampton's, in my house,
I needed like a really substantial, almost full gut. Okay,
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in Connecticut, I didn't need a full gut. It was
a half renovation, but a big property. So you're talking
about indoor outdoor, apple trees, guest cottages, entertainment, barns, et cetera.
So I have a baseline of what things should cost
also I could move every couple of years. I got
a daughter leaving for college. We've had a lot of
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life changes. So I always design this way add value
to the home, Like if it's two things, one to
the materials of the home, Like not because you think
this veiny marble is gonna like that's not it. They
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may not like that. It's a taste specific thing. But
like if you decide to put stone on an island
that didn't have it, or you make the kitchen bigger,
or you walk in and now you can see out
to the yard through a window, like the experience is
different because of it, not because of your personal choice
that you have imposed on someone else. Meeting, I have
a bedroom upstairs that is now a full glamor room
with a marble island. I don't know who's moving in here.
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I don't know that she's gonna want to walk down
the hall and have a separate room that has a
full bathroom and a steam. And you know, maybe I
found the right buyer because we're you know, I've put
a lot of money into this house and I'm getting
double my money. And I also stole it when I
bought it, and I bought it right and great, But
I'm saying I'm that was for me. I wanted that.
That was not that's not something that someone else would
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necessarily want. You can't just impose because you're, you know,
a rich bitch or fancy that someone else is gonna
want it. But if it's really going to change the
way the house feels, and like the value of the house,
you know, like you upgraded appliances, that's in value. Add
you have automatic window treatments everywhere, or it used to
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be the sound system, like whatever the thing is. You know,
you redid the kitchen floors and you maybe just stain them.
You don't even have to rip them out. It was
not expensive, but the visual, like, it's the experience and
the convenience. The other person doesn't have to do that.
You changed all the hardware. Now someone comes to look
at the house, it all looks fresh. Okay, these are
things people just don't want to deal with, and it's
worth it. Okay, but I don't care about viscouch, that chair,
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that thing, et cetera. I'll buy nice things, but I
have always left them and sold them in an auction
when I leave the house. So like, and I also
count that in the renovation price because it's going in
the garbage. Meaning if I want to go do a
house and you're like, it's going to be one hundred
and two five hundred million dollars, I count what the
furniture is gonna cost. That's part of my all because
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I know I'm not getting that back. If you spend
one hundred thousand of furniture, you're getting ten back. Like
it's just not. So that's why I'm crazy about when
I buy the furniture. Now, someone who is going to
pick up their rug from catman, do you know, maybe
that rug comes to the next house, But if it
gets wrecked and dirty in this house, which it probably will,
then it won't. But there's nothing, no criticism. Everyone lives
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how they want. You know. Some people keep their Arimez
bags and boxes so they're pristine for a future person.
Some people, like you know, the Olsen Twins, beat the
shit out of them because they're to be worn. Like.
So it depends on who you are and what you're
doing or what your goals are. Do whatever the fuck
you want. But and I do believe saving a bag
and things like it's probably stupid, even though I do
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do it outfits, et cetera, where your shit. We could
all be dead tomorrow and it doesn't matter, Like just
put it on, use it like you're saving for a
rainy day that may never come, and it's just like
not living so anyway, So I know what it costs
to do a house and all the furniture. So I
gave a cap this property that is about an eighth
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the size of the property that I'm on now, and
the house is about a third. And I gave a
half the budget that I did on the house that
I'm in now, which is crazy because I did a
massive renovation at a huge place, and so within that budget,
a closet person came and literally sent an invoice for
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half the price of the entire renovation, which is the
quarter of the price to renovate an entire Greenwich, Connecticut property.
So what did I do? I was like, this is insane,
and of course it's always quote unquote a starting point,
and then they get scared and I'm like, but no,
this is a fucking insane price. I won't tell you
guys what it was. I don't think I can. You'd
never speak to me again, Like these are things that
I won't do because I know where the line is,
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and this is the line of like, we can't relate
to her, she's a fucking loser. Okay, it's not a
price we can discuss, it's a lot. So I go.
And now I'm a due diligence person. So whenever I
get a quote from like a house manager or something
like that's crazy, like that stupid twenty thousand dollars pool
permit thing, I'll send it to three people, one house
manager in the Hamptons, a contractor, a city person, a
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real estate worker, and i'll do all crowdsource. Then i'll
know where we stand. So they all say you out
of your fucking mind, Like I know that this guy's
hosing me. Also, this guy's hosed me before on something
because I was getting a gate and I did the
same process. Then I'm like, I have three people telling
me this other price, no fucking way, So we're all
getting ripped off. It's just how much. Okay, So the
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closet thing, I now call the guy who did my
other closets because to me, in my mind, I'm like,
just closets people are closet people. Okay, I send it
to my closet guy. And I'm wrong to say closet
people are closet people because a lot of these places
are like brand name closet places, like the Closet Place
and then the Blind's Place, and then you know that
the Closet Place is like a franchise thing, and like
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they're just like salespeople and a big company that you're
paying a massive viig two and then they're gonna go
get their designer and then they're gonna go get the
people to build it. It's like a lot of bulk
in between, right, It's like the opposite of like Amazon,
and even Amazon has bulk in between. It's the opposite
of like who's making it? So I call the guy
from the hampton just to be like, who are you?
What's your model? Because he did my house in the
Hampton's and he did my place in the city and
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it's always seemed like pricey but not like kill yourself.
And he's like, I'm like, you build it. He's like,
my guys build it. But it's like his guys and
they don't do houses and things, they only do closets.
So he's got like a corner on just doing it
and a lot of the other people, the closet place,
the closet lady, they use him, So now I'm paying
them to use him when I know him and he
can do it himself. And my friend was gonna do
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the same thing with our contractor. She's like, I just
gave him the drawings and he's gonna do it himself. Now,
some people may not understand every inch of a closet
and the way things are, but it's not rocket science, Okay,
It's squares and lights and handles. So he says to me,
I'm gonna do this for you for one one almost
one third the price. Like let's say he's doing it
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for he's doing it for less than half the price.
He's doing it like yeah, like thirty percent. So I'm like,
what the fuck. So now my two friends it happened
to also be doing houses at the same exact time,
who also happened to be using the same designer. They
start freaking out because I'm like, guys, like, it doesn't matter,
I'm not shooting a messenger. You recommended me. This designer's wonderful.
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I love her. I'll tell you goes who she is.
Later she referred me to these people and I guess
down in Florida, people just getting hosed everywhere. I don't
know why, but these two are now pulling from the
other closet person. So now that closet person plus three
people right now, as and my guy just gained three people.
So now I'm like in the closet business, and now
I'm gonna get a better deal because I just brought
him to other people too. I'm like, no, don't fuck up,
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because he's gonna fly down to Florida to me and
me I go listen, I'll get you to other people.
It's like there have been times where a massage therapists.
I'm like, can you come an hour, But don't worry,
I'll make it worth your while. I get you to
other people to do that day. That's how people think stacking.
This motherfucker is getting on the plane, just like my
carpet steamer guy. Why because Geez came on the fucking
plane to clean my carpet. Why because he end up
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getting so much business because he got on the fucking
plane to clean my carpet. What's a plane ticket four
or five hundred dollars? Okay, who's well worth it? He's
not a dummy, and he was Albanian. Everyone I love
and work with his Albanian. So I get on the phone.
I go call the closet guy back. After he says
this to me, I'm like, I got you. You have
three people in one day, and I might getch you more.
We get back on the phone. I goes, let me
ask you a question. I don't want to get suit.
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I don't know if this is like asking an employee
their age. Are you Albanian? He goes yeah, I go,
what the motherfucker? He goes yup. He goes, I saw
your video and you talked about an Albanian shout out.
I'm like, I live for my Albanians. So he's Albanian.
He's doing my closets and two other people. You need
a closet in Florida, I got a guy. Okay, moving
right along. So I spend money in the shit that
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matters in Yes, closets matter, like in all the guest
rooms in the organization. But like everyone doesn't need a
purple marble island. Okay, wat back the after, walk back
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the after