Just B Rant: Inside the minds of Kim and Taylor

You’ll be surprised by what Bethenny was able to determine about Kim Kardashian in regards to where she’s headed next, both professionally and romantically. 

Plus, find out what Taylor Swift did to blow Bethenny’s mind.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I realized in my sleep to wake, which is when
I have all my thoughts, that Kim Kardashian has always
curated who she's going to be with, so in the
way that it's like hot and sexy. When you're dressing
hot and sexy and like an influencer that's on TV
and taken selfies and that air villagier girl, Why wouldn't

(00:31):
you date a football player and go to Miami to
the super Bowl like that fit that time? But when
you want to be taken seriously in fashion and get
on magazine covers and you know, elevate your status. Because
she always took pictures only with people that were more
elevated than her. She was very strategic about who she
took pictures with. I know this firsthand. I know this

(00:54):
for effect. She only took pictures with people that were
at the level and above. Back when she wasn't his
big as she is now. So why wouldn't you play
tennis with a better tennis player? And Kanye was more famous,
more respected, he was more respected in fashion and more connected.
So that's when she was with Kanye, who loved her
and she was his muse, and he changed her whole

(01:15):
fashion game, and that elevated her fashion game when she
was on her reality show. You need content, you need
to move plotline. And now she's wearing a I Love
Nerds T shirt because it's bait for tech. She wants
a real finance guy, a tech guy. She wants a
hedge fund guy. She wants a major bag alert because

(01:38):
she's she now wants to be taken more seriously in business.
She's got a private equity fund, she's studying law. This
is Madonna that does the reinvention. She keeps reinventing from
the air ve lagier football player style to grab a
guy and have good content for my show that was
in its beginning years. Not beginning, but like you know earlier,

(02:02):
the earlier years, and date a fashion icon who is
a genius in music, to elevate that status, get yourself
to the Metcala, get yourself on the magazines. But now
you have fashion, you have reality TV. You had your
football slut girl era. Now it's about being taken seriously.

(02:23):
So she's just dangling Silicon Valley tech billionaire, mega hedge
fund finance guide bait. That's what that T shirt's about.
People were criticizing it as a style choice. It's not
a style choice, it's a life choice. It's a reinvention.
And the next chapter, trust and believe Kim Kardashian is

(02:44):
not marrying a Pete Davidson type next or dating a
Pete Davidson type Next, Someone's gonna pull up and have
a matching plane next to her. Hers is designed with
an air Mes interior. Someone will pull up and have
a Laura Piano interior in his team owners. She's looking
for big tech, big tech money now. So I took

(03:21):
Brinn to Taylor Swift and we went in Philadelphia, And
to be honest, I don't love crowds and concerts and
logistics and as me in case I get recognized or
everyone wants pictures, like I never know what level something's
gonna be. But often when it's about someone else, like
Taylor Swift is such a mega famous person, like I'm anecdotal,

(03:45):
so everyone's just a Tailor Swift fan, so they wouldn't
even notice me or care. But sometimes I just I
don't know. There were a lot of people that recognized
me at the Taylor Swift concert, and I did have
someone walking me through and did play and wisely, but
what happened was Brinn is not a massive Tailor Swift fan,
and neither am I. I never have been, and the

(04:08):
concert was happening, my money manager said to me, I
have extra tickets at a box in Philadelphia on May twelfth?
Do you want to go? And I wasn't going to
say no because we don't live in Philadelphia, because I
hadn't made any plans to get them. And I thought
to myself, this was months ago. What happens if everyone
in Brin's school is into it and she wants to go,
I should say yes, city's tickets, And so I kind

(04:31):
of had them on the back burner, thinking I don't
know what we're going to do. So as it came closer,
Paul also had tickets in Boston and they were more
like on the floor, and that made me kind of
nervous because I just don't know who's around me, what
we're dealing with, and getting in and getting out, and
I do get anxiety about that kind of thing. So

(04:52):
I thought, oh, well, this situation in Philadelphia is in
a skybox and private. So it sounded but I just
still was nervous, like it's not it's still going to
be just sixty thousand people trying to get into a stadium,
and what's that going to be like? So what happened
was I had had Britain's sleepover, her weekend sleepover, and

(05:15):
then the following weekend I let her for her birthday
present take one friend to Taylor Swift. So I got
us a hotel room and as it came close, so
I'm like, I'm doing I'm doing this now. Last weekend
I did an eight person sleepover, which seemed like one thing,
and then it was more exhausting than I thought. And
then the next weekend, I'm going to go drive on
a Friday to Philadelphia and sleep in a hotel and

(05:38):
all this okay. So what I did was I wasn't
feeling well at all, so I was having such anxiety
that I had to go. Brim was so looking forward
to it. She learned the whole album and got more
and more excited. I'm glad that I accepted the tickets
and now it was time for us to go. So
Friday we drove, she got out of school a little early.
We drove with her friend. We got chili steak, cheese

(05:59):
steak except Pats and Gino's, and then We went to
the concert and we were like fifteen minutes late, which
I was running through sweating, and it ended up being fine.
It didn't really miss much. And we went up to
this really nice suite with all this food and really
nice people, and like we weren't in the middle of
this pit. We were kind of looking at it, but
like seeing her, and it was perfect and I really

(06:21):
gained a lot of respect for her as a performer.
It was hours. It was three hours. She was on time.
I've never seen a performer on time. She was totally
exactly on time. I said to Britain, will be fifteen
minutes late. This has never been a performer that's not
been late. Well, Taylor Swifter has not been late. Taylor
Swift has not been late. She was at eight on
the button and so many costume changes. I can't count,

(06:46):
so many set changes. I can't count three hours. I
kept saying, I don't know how she does it for
one night. I couldn't do it for three nights. I
don't know how she does it for three nights. I
don't know how she does it for one night. I
would be so activated, I wouldn't sleep for a month.
It would be so unhealthy. God bless and it was
a really nice experience, and she seems like a good girl,

(07:07):
role model. People are obsessed. I had no idea, like
I'm not a quote unquote real fan. She gained a fan,
for sure, but I was shocked. But I will tell
you that I recorded a lot of it and I
posted about it, and I try to share it, like
really post not just what I look like, but like
what the set looks like and what she looked like.

(07:29):
Because I gather a lot of people can't go, and
people were messaging me in the nicest way saying, you know,
we didn't get to go, I can't afford to go.
I started to feel tremendous guilt and it was late.
It was one in the morning, and I texted Paul
to say to send him some of the messages I
was getting, and I said, you know, And the first
thing I said to Brim when we were leaving the

(07:49):
concert was you don't need to go again, like you
did it. You did it once, and she was like right,
And I said, we really should be giving the tickets.
These extra tickets have to someone in need. Because I
was going to go in Boston with Brnn and now
I know there are leftover tickets because we decided not
to go, and I'm like, who, and Paul's totally agreed,

(08:10):
and we are now I believe we have found a
mother and a daughter that we will send in a
car and get a hotel and send to this concert
to give them what's a once in a lifetime experience.
And it made me realize another thing, which is that
this has become an elitist sport, because if I think
about it, it was, you know, it seemed to be

(08:33):
well to do people at the concert who can afford it,
Because people that I know that work in stores and
our upper middle class cannot afford to go. They say
it's like a thousand dollars. They can't spend a thousand
dollars on a tailor Swift ticket. And I'm reading these
messages from these moms and I'm now hearing that twenty
thousand people were in the parking lot. I did see
a lot of people around my hotel, realizing that they

(08:53):
just wanted to get a taste of the concert. And
I realized that those are the workhorses of Taylor swift
fan base, are the ones who got her where she
is today. So it's not fair that the people that
got her where she is today don't get to go
to the concert. Why did I get to go and
those people don't get to go. That's not really fair.
And I know that a lot of life isn't fair,
but that's really really not fair. And then I thought

(09:15):
about then people were telling me that the tickets get
resold by resellers, not unlike bags and watches, which is
definitely an elitist sport. But in that model, the retailer
controls who gets the watches, so a person can buy
a wife and it's not marked up five times a
Rolex or a p Tech. And it occurred to me

(09:36):
that the that the retailer of the tickets needs to
control this, and I thought there should be a model
where buy one ticket and it's overpriced, I'll pay double
what it says buy a ticket, and a free ticket
goes to someone who really, really and yes, could need
a ticket. Music is healing and getting to have an

(09:57):
experience is healing. So I think that they should change
the model for how this is done, because it cannot
just be an elitist sport to go to a concert.
So I had an amazing time and it was a
beautiful experience and it was amazing on Mother's Day weekend
with Brann and we connected. I was so happy to
see her have the best night of her life and
it was beautiful and I was happy for her friend.

(10:17):
So the model has to change, so I'm glad and
Taylor Swift tests to also be accountable for the right
people coming to her concerts. So you know, Billy Joel
no longer lets the front row be ticket buyers. He
now makes it that he takes the people from the
very top and brings him to the bottom. So whatever
the model is, that's not too bulky. I like, buy

(10:41):
a ticket, give a ticket, charge more, buy the ticket
so she could still make her money and sell and
give a ticket. So I don't know what the face
value is. I think summer five hundred at that point,
make it a thousand and give a ticket. They're marking
it up anyway, and the rich can afford it if
they can afford it. If they could award five hundred,
they could afford a thousand. So you know, make it hardcore,

(11:01):
make it hardcore where it would leave a mark on
me to buy whatever that expensive marked up ticket is.
But I have to pay five thousand a night. Okay,
is it really worth it? Okay, decide, But somebody else
get a free ticket, then you're basically and maybe maybe
part of the ticket is a write off, because if
it's going to a charity or something, there's a cancer

(11:24):
charity or you know, or an underprivileged kids, inner city charity,
what is it. I don't know, but listen, I could
figure it out. I could figure it out so that
I think is a model. That's a model, and in
that case, you know what i'd get, be strong involved. Fine, fine,
let us handle. Let us figure out who buys all

(11:46):
the tickets, because we could sell a lot of tickets
and we'll figure out who the other ticket goes to.
That is fine, no problem. I'll talk to my partner.
All I know is something's broken. That's all I know.